Can you prove this underage Japanese girl wrong?
No, but i can bitchslap her face for shittalking to her elders.
>>47871625
She might actually be a 500 year old demon. This is Japan, after all. Do you want to take that chance.
Was anyone disputing this?
>>47871636
If she is you just slap her harder.
>>47871653
No, what the hell is wrong with you?
You strike with a closed fist. That way she knows you mean business.
>>47871608
i remind her that bitches with only 2 dimensions can't talk
>>47871608
It's both.
You just have to decide what your honour is worth.
>>47871608
No, because you can't prove someone wrong when they're right.
>>47871608
It's not strategy, it's not even tactics. It's just not being retarded.
>>47871715
A fundamental part of strategy is avoiding enemy strength and exploiting enemy weaknesses.
>>47871688
Just because she can't talk doesn't make her point any less valid. And also I'm pretty sure that 2d girls can't hear either so I'm not sure how you'd tell her that.
>>47871733
shut up cakeboy
>>47871673
A proper slap can actually be quite devastating.
>>47871730
Strategy is planning on a conceptual level. Tactics is carrying out those plans. Attacking any enemy's weakness is something even animals with no concept of concepts can do.
>>47871673
Nah, you want her to understand that demon or not, her opinion means jack shit, and nothing gets that across like a casual backhander to the chops
>>47871673
this guy knows what's up
>>47871750
so anything an animal can do doesn't count?
Really, what should be said is that the idea of a "fair fight" is non-sense and you should always strike for the advantage. The notion of honor only serves to complicate a relatively simple matter.
>>47871750
Yet, you argued that it isn't a tactic when it clearly is.
>>47871783
Nah, more like, it's not innately tactics or strategy. You need the conceptual stage to qualify as either of those. I mean, a cat can dodge a blow, but it's not strategy or tactics. When you lay out a plan, "he'll attack like this because that's his pattern", then you're strategizing. When you dodge according to the plan, then you're being tactical. When you just see a punch coming at you and dodge, then you're just reacting, no strategy or tactics involved.
>>47871784
>The notion of honor only serves to complicate a relatively simple matter.
Honour in fact is very important.
If people had no honour then man would likely have wiped himself out long ago.
>>47871784
The logical conclusion of that line of thought is that all fights are to the last breath. Honor and other notions of self-limiting serve to establish a victor without having to utterly destroy the vanquished.
>>47871844
how do you know that cat's doesn't have a plan?
>>47871865
>>47871880
The interpretation doesn't have to be autistic. It just means I'm not going to limit myself in order to achieve victory, it doesn't mean I have to kill if killing isn't necessary to accomplishing my goal.
Simply put, I'm in a hurry and you're in my way, I'm not going to throw my weapon down and have a "equal footing" match for the sake of honor, I'm going to incapacitate you by any means and keep moving. If you don't die that's good, if you do then oh well. because this train don't have no brakes.
>>47871949
Well, ACTUAL honor systems aren't about fighting fair in fact. That's more like sportsmanship then honor.
Things Iike honor in battle more like a tacit and often unspoken agreement between both parties that they won't do certain things to minimize damage and resolve the basic conflict without letting it get crazy and out of control.
That way you can be a civilized sort and just kill the other fellow in a duel to resolve the dispute rather then him waiting outside the house so he can kill your whole family or something as a way of getting back at you, or you could fight a war over a territory and just have soldiers die rather then one side killing all the peasants and salting all the fields which ruins the entire point of the conflict in the first place.
Of course not everyone (not even MOST people) do that in real life and almost everyone needlessly escalates everything almost all the time, but in general we're a pretty fucking stupid species when it comes to understanding consequences.
>>47871608
Sure.
Pic related.
>>47871753
I want her to understand to I better not fucking come home to an overcooked roast again.
>>47871784
A simple matter that throws us into anarchy very quickly.
By opting into mutually agreed upon rules, we lessen the damage done and can continue progress without having blood fueds that lead to near extinction events every few posts.
The rules change with time, and that's what gets muddy is when the expectations for restraint are either irrelevant or outdated by technology.
>>47871949
>Because this train don't have no breaks
Why hello Chaotic Evil, how are you today?
>>47871911
Well, I don't really do, but absence of evidence of a conceptualizing language suggests it. Either way, even if they have a plan, I think in cases like these it's more important to think of how words can be useful rather than as absolutely correct as possible. If even ants have strategy and tactics when they pick up a leaf because they might adjust their grip to be able to carry it easier, then the terms lose their intended meaning, which is usually to distinguish between how individuals go about warfare (or other activities).
>>47872034
Well said.
>>47872178
You aren't Chaotic Evil just because you aren't Lawful Stupid.
>>47871608
>underhanded
>strategy
Neither of those exclude each other.
>>47872187
what I'm trying to point out that your argument is that something is a tactic or not depending on the intent.
Which can't be objectively determined, so it is a flawed definition
>>47872249
Literally nothing can be objectively determined.
>>47872296
entirely depends on your definition of objective
>>47872359
>>47872178
Isn't that technically neautral evil? He's not unpredictable.
>>47872428
Alignments are technically stupid.
>>47872296
I feel like that's subjective.
>>47871608
No, because she is right
The game is not limited to the arena: treachery, learning your opponent's weaknesses, and attacking him while he sleeps is all part of the experience
Which is why finding trustworthy allies and places to spend the night is so important
>>47871750
Strategy is longterm goal setting.
Tactics is short term goal realisation.
>>47872652
But what of long term goal realization or short term goal setting?
>>47871688
https://3dcg-arts.net/arts/3440?via_fave=1976
would a pseudo-third dimension help her point?
>>47872409
I feel like another philosopher would've been better for this joke.
>>47873455
I feel like the guy who made that comic barely knew anything about philosophers.
>>47873455
Perhaps, but no other comic fit the situation itself.
>>47873588
Pretty sure it's a she, and she actually has loads of comics. They're pretty good actually, including some of philosophers playing D&D
>>47873455
Nah, I think Plato fits. Republic was just him writing about Socrates annoying everybody in Athens IIRC
>>47871608
I'm not foolish enough to try and outfox Takagi-san.
>trying to one up a loli
>let alone a smug loli
Just asking for a bad time
>>47871691
I'd rather protect my family and be dishonorable than watch them all die at the hands of some mightier-than-thou motherfucker and die an honorable death.
If a fight is on, it's on. I won't lie, or go back on my word, or kill a man in his sleep. But if it's a fight to the death then by any means death will come to those who oppose me
>>47876564
What about attacking an enemy camp at night ? I mean, they'll still have time to wake up before battle, they just won't be fully prepared for it.
>>47876622
"All is fair, in love and war."
>>47871608
No it's not unless your opponents weakness is that they're helpless.
>>47871608
Actually no. She's more or less right. And that's ironically why I'm going to use her clear physical weakness compared to me against her and rape her untill she cries of joy and calls me daddy.
>>47877255
>tfw some people don't realize loli for cute and smugand intercrural
>>47877282
>that image
The ironing of this post
>>47871608
Yes, I can. It all depends on context.
Take a boxing match, for example. Clinching and punching at the opponent's cut eye is strategy. Kicking your opponent in the nuts is not strategy, as it will disqualify you.
>>47871636
Yes. Even if it is a demon, that just makes her even more deserving of a slap.
>>47872296
>>I'm an idiot.
>>47877282
Sure we can do intercrural too when she's good and tamed.
>>47876775
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>>47877282
>>47877309
What's the sauce? IQDB and Google aren't helpful.
>>47879889
>not immediately recognizing that style
Seriously, anon. Just from what she's wearing it shouldn't be that hard to find it.
>>47879889
Don't go looking for it if you're not into prolapse
>>47871608
>trying to prove her wrong
Do I look as stupid as Nishikata to you?
>>47880075
Now I'm interested. Sauce me, mang.
>>47880151
I don't have it. I'm not into prolapse.
>>47880075
Ah. Nevermind then.
But she's right
Just be able to read the mood enough to not push the wheelchair kid to the ground at the charity event
>>47880151
Artist is Shindol, you should be able to find it on sadpanda. Look for the loli and prolapse tags, I don't think those coincide often.
>>47871608
remember, the enemy cant call you a cowardly, backstabbin' sumbitch if he's dead
>>47880074
That one manga. With the highschool setting?
>>47880576
But his friends can, and so can yours.
>>47879889
http://exhentai.org/g/390412/07e0f46fb3/
It's somewhat heartwarming in a horrifying kind of way. Which is still better than most Shindol doujins.
>>47871608
No, because she's right.
>>47881107
>spoonfeeding
>>47881301
That's the beauty of ex links. People who can get past the panda have already shown that they are capable, so it's safe to give them the direct link.
>>47881344
They could also have found it themselves, you fucking dolt.
The more of those links you post, the more threatened sadpanda will be by the general public, as more and more people find out how to use it.
>>47872087
what's this from? Is that it?
>>47871608
Intermediate strategy; disguise your strengths as weaknesses to draw your opponent to fight you on your own terms.
>>47871608
Where I come from, showing weakness is in itself dishonorable, so therefore you shouldn't feel bad about exploiting weakness because showing it isn't really honorable in the first place.
>its strat—egy
Not strat—edgy
>>47881301
This isn't fucking /a/.
>>47885634
And? You're still a faggot no matter what board you're on. Feeding saucefags is shit.
>>47871608
Sauce please?
>>47873455
How about Schopenhauer?
>>47882307
Gentleman Bastards series, specifically Red Sea Under Red Sun, or something to that point.
Read the whole series, it's AMAZING.
>>47888209
The series isn't even halfway done, by the way.
>>47872087
>playing risk
>winning
>look down at board
>your opponent has arranged their pieces into a picture of your dead son
>tfw
>>47885723
We're in the kitty board. Being excellent to each other is in the fucking rules, you walrus.
>>47888728
It's summer, man. Can't blame them for being pedantic children.
>>47871865
>If people had no honour then man would likely have wiped himself out long ago.
The concept of "honor" has never been particularly important thing. It's mostly just romanticization of history..
>>47888728
>/tg/
>being excellent
>moreover being excellent to each other
I have no idea how you typed that with a straight face,
>>47871636
then she's not underage
>>47871865
>Honour in fact is very important.
>If people had no honour then man would likely have wiped himself out long ago.
Fear of M.A.D. has nothing to do with honor.
Rolled 7 (1d20)
>>47889762
I ROLL TO PERSUADE THIS HERETIC THAT THIS IS ALSO A NICE BOARD
A nope
>>47889762
Because it's true? How in the world are you going to get more people into this social hobby of ours if you act like an elitist cunt to others? This isn't /a/, where everyone can enjoy their hobbies in their royal loneliness.
>>47890491
Technically being excellent to each other would be letting the saucefag find his own sauce, thus letting him grow out of being a saucefag.
>>47890554
Or you can just give him the sauce.
"Hey, GM, how does attack of opportunity work?"
>LOL find it yourself, newfag
This is what you sound like. There's absolutely no reason to not give source when someone asks for it, unless you are an elitist twat and nobody wants to play with elitist twat.
>>47890554
The most being excellent would be to teach the saucefag, so he could teach others and eventually make tg a sauce free board as no image would go "unsearchable"
>>47881934
>being this assmad about people finding the loli porn they want
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>>47871608
Yes, but it involves killing and skinning her mother and father to show it to her in the middle of the tennis match so she loses, because her emotional instability on losing her parents is an easily exploitable weakness.
>>47891122
I think what you're demonstrating here is not an example of "underhanded", but rather that of "overkill". Showing her her dirty panties that you'd stolen beforehand would achieve the same result.
>>47891020
>>47891154
Oh there you are!
>>47891154
What do you want? Shit's legal unless I am carrying physical representations of it over state lines faggot.
>>47891144
Yeah, but it illustrates the point that "some points shouldn't be attacked because it sets a terrible precedent that leads to everyone living in separate bunkers underground because you can't trust anyone not to stab you in your sleep for your wallet".
And that's terrible.
>>47871608
I don't believe her to be wrong, taking it either from lawful-ish or rogue-like perspective
with the latter point of view, using exploits that your opponents give you is a pretty good thing to do and since there are weaknesses, then they're to be attacked
considering more LG point of view, well, you gotta do what you gotta do, and those weaknesses are there for something, and being chivalrous is sometimes more of a privilege than a duty
this manga is fucking cute
>>47874125
getting offended anon? Gender does not equal quality you know.
>>47891894
Why would I get offended about something like that?
>>47886227
>>47886124
Was ist das?
>>47892112
The same manga from the OP, a sickeningly sweet romantic comedy about a guy and the girl who's always teasing him. I found it by reverse-image searching the .gif with iqdb.
>>47892160
Ah, thanks. Searching the OP image got nothing, but here it is:
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=100075
>>47871673
Someone doesn't know about Archies famous slap.
>>47871608
It's underhanded AND it's a strategy.
>>47871608
So this is japanese McCree?
>>47890491
The point wasn't that people on /tg/ shouldn't be excellent to each other, but that they just plain aren't, you dumbfuck. The people here are largely pretty horrible and oftentimes even bigger asshats than /a/fags.
>>47893797
Ever thought that maybe you are that guy?
>>47871784
The notion exists in "sporting" contexts and exactly nowhere else.
Real warriors and generals look for the easiest, most brutally unfair fights they can find to reduce the danger and risk to their lives inherent in a fair fight.
A fair fight is one where you have a healthy 50 percent chance to be seriously injured or killed. Actually giving the enemy the chance to do that to you willingly is retarded if you have any choice in the matter.
It's why getting in a random knife fight in the street is retarded, and why both guys usually die.
The guy who wins dies on the way to the hospital.
>>47894183
>Real warriors and generals look for the easiest, most brutally unfair fights they can find to reduce the danger and risk to their lives inherent in a fair fight.
That's wildly untrue, both historically and today. People, especially military leaders, have always had ideas about the "right" and "wrong" kinds of violence. That's why The Art of War is regarded so highly - it doesn't contain a great deal of amazing strategy, but does spend a great deal of time castigating the "honorable" crowd that made up the majority of the Chinese military hierarchy.
I mean, shit, there's countless examples of one general getting fucked because he expected an "honorable" fight and didn't get it, and most battles that have been fought in human history were fought by people who believed in some degree of the rules of war.
Modern militaries are hilariously "sporting", and the kind of brutal pragmatism you think pervades conflict is not only frowned upon from a sociocultural perspective, but also usually just illegal.
>>47894183
Shut the fuck up. You have no idea what you are saying. Just go read about some 10 random battles and you'll see that what you say does not apply. There are numerous examples of battles for glory and honor recorded throughout History.
>>47885723
>>47881301
we're on /tg/, where anon delivers.
Go back to /a/ with that attitude of yours.
>>47871638
There is nothing to dispute. Its an underhanded tactic. The most noble thing is to test your strength against their strength.
However, underhanded tactics are near essential in war and is overall better for humanity as it ends the war quicker. The fake army stationed in England before D-Day used to create a weakness in their defense for a more successful assault for example. Or a more extreme example, though in fiction, would be something like the Red Wedding.
Most tactics would be considered underhanded though if you judge them that way.
>>47895850
On the other hand, there are some underhanded tactics that are suboptimal as if both sides use them, the victory can be pyrrhic. For example, using nukes on your opponent would be seen as an "everyone loses" option.
