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>>47821784
>WE would fight to entertain crowds.
Hoo boy, that would certainly go over well with Angron
I just ordered another set of Umbra bolters and MKVI armour for my Iron Warriors.
>>47822630
>MkVI
>Iron Warriors
Absolutely disgusting.
>>47822614
Maybe don't make them gladiators but instead strongmen.
>>47822630
You mad Beakie.
>>47822640
There is a Beakie IW picture.
I see that the quad mortar has shell shock rule yet I cannot seem to find pinning anywhere, am I blind or did barrage weapons lose pinning?
>>47822551
Lorgar is a whiny bitch.But to be fair, my favourite Primarch is also a bit whiny at times. Or just arrogant.
But he's nothing compared to Erebus. Fuck Erebus.
>>47822663
Still, it doesn't seem right.
Show me pics of IW Beakies, then I shall decide.
>>47822640
Oh yeah?? I bet most IW players don't have armies comprised entirely of MKII either.
>>47822640
There's a picture of a pre-heresy Word Bearers beakie, too. As in emperor-worshipping Word Bearer beakie. Pre-Monarchia beakie.
Beakies are the true face of the Legiones Astartes.
>>47822692
see attachment
>>47822690
Fuck Erebus, ye.
>>47822692
I was going to but >>47822728
Beat me.
>>47822728
>Oh yeah?? I bet most IW players don't have armies comprised entirely of MKII either.
PLASTIC MKII AND MKIII WHEN?
>>47822728
Not enough hazard stripes/10.
I'm fine with the WB Beakie, but IW Beakie will never seem right to me. Now if I saw a nicely painted one, I'd probably change my mind.
>>47822770
I've heard that the box that will replace BaC will have MkIII. I just hope it doesn't actually replace BaC, as I'd like to get both boxes for my birthday.
>>47822770
>mfw I can't actually tell Mk II from Mk III at a glance
You'll keep my secret, won't you lads?
>>47822813
It's ok anon, you're not the only one with ocular trouble.
>>47822813
No.
>>47822832
>>47822830Mortarion is ruined for me. Ever since someone said he got rejected by Typhus in favour of Nurgle I can't help but see him standing sadly in the background as Typhus gets more and more blessings. Makes me laugh.
breachers, medusan immortals and phalanx warders are all dramatically overcosted.
>>47822999
Don't forget Assault mehreenz too. They should cost 200pts
>>47822770
IDK but I'm getting resin beakies for the running poses and backpacks even though it's probably the same cost or cheaper to just get the new plastic 40k Space Marine squadsand then selling off the filthy MKVII.
>>47822803
The point is not the WB in a beakie, though, it's that it's literally 50 years before the Heresy and they have full-blown MKVI, which is inconsistent with other fluff.
Either way there are three justifications for IW in beakies:
1: Prototype armour handed out for testing purposes.
Perturabo wanted MKVI to fail because it was less durable - presumably proven by field tests. Some surviving examples would be fully feasible, possibly handed out to less promising recruits who weren't deserving of the generalist MKIV.
2: Salvage from dead Raven Guard at Istvaan V.
Self-explanatory. The Iron Warriors hammered into the Raven Guard backline and were presumably able to recover a great deal of munitions and equipment from their dead after the battle. Power armour is power armour, after all. It could also be stolen from loyalist stockpiles or intercepted shipments.
3: Produced during the traitor occupation of Mars.
Late-Heresy only but it was mentioned that the Dark Mechanicum produced MKVI for the Traitor Legions before and during the Siege of Terra. This is supposed to explain why the 40k Chaos Space Marines mostly come with MKVI legs.
On top of that, even if they disliked the MKVI for being less durable, it did have the improved sensors which makes a lot of sense for specialist teams and heavy support. Iron Warriors have preferences, but ultimately they're pragmatic enough to make the best of what they have.
>>47822813
On the table it's kind of a toss-up. If you look at them from behind they're fairly similar, from the front not so much. Really though, swap out the helmets and shoulders and most things can blend together when a bird's eye view is applied.
Posted a couple threads ago (or maybe last thread) about my blackshield chymeriae (+1 S/T) and thought that I might as well post my new list idea.
3x Blackshield Reaver Lord: 840 Points
>Artificer Armour
>Bike
>Iron Halo
>Cyber Familiar
>Master-Crafted Power Fist
>Lightning Claw
>Digital Lasers
>Rad Grenades
3x 10 Marauders: 765
>Power Fist
>2 Power Axes
>7 Heavy Chainswords
10 Outriders: 330 Points
>3 Power Axes
>Power Fist
2x 6 Outriders: 510 Points
>Meltabombs
>3 Power Axes
2445/2500 Points
Not a competitive list, simply wanted to make the biggest death star I could. Not sure what to do with the remaining points but by dropping rad grenades on two reaver lords I could get another 20 points. Main idea is that the death star kills the biggest things on the table, bikes kill vehicles and run interference, marauders capture objectives and charge things with their high number of S 6 attacks.
The bike death star should kill anything short of a primarch death star in a single turn (and even that is unlikely to survive long) with 13 Str 5 hammer of wrath hits, 18 str 5 I 3 attacks, 9 str 6 AP 2 attacks at I 1, and a whopping 24 str 10 AP 2 attacks at I 1. Rad grenades mean that even the hammer of wrath and regular attacks are still wounding marines on a 2+ and most primarchs on a 4+. The fact that they are T6 means even initiative AP 2 is going to have difficulty bringing them down and the reavers with a 3++ each will probably all live to punch shit to death.
>>47822497
For Guilliman's Armour of Reason it says that the first failed save of any phase may be rerolled.
My group has no Ultras players but in theory we would play it so the controlling player rolled their saves on at a time until one failed, then reroll that failed save. If the rerolled save was successful they would continue to roll them one at a time and continue to reroll until they actually failed.
My group likes Primarchs to be powerful as they should but I could easily see the argument for Guilliman only getting one reroll period per phase. I was wondering how you -the fine denizens of /HHG/- would play this rule.
>>47822728
>I bet most IW players don't have armies comprised entirely of MKII either.
>Not mixing up marks according to rank?
Elite vets get Mk IV
Regular dudes get Mk II
Anyone with hardened armour gets Mk III
Mk V is for blackshields with pariah armour
Mk VI is for Alpha Legion and Raven Guard pussies
>>47823100
>Mk V is for blackshields with pariah armour
>not for vets who want reliable and easy to repair gear
>>47823167
Mk V master race
>>47823100
>not mkIII for everybody worth a shit
>mk IV for the bitch ass recruits
>>47823198
Indeed.
>>47823200
>giving recruits the most advanced armor that takes a while to repair now that Horus has gone edgelord supreme
These armor mark fights are blinding.
>>47823074
its solid.
they are S9 instead of S10 though because of the modifier applying after the 2x, not that it makes much of a difference.
>>47823100
>>47823200
I could see Vets retaining their old MKII armours ("If it ain't broken don't fix it") and MKIV going to the newbies, but then again, MKIV exists because MkII was too worn down and its repairs consumed too much time.
>>47823284
Rad grenades make them effective strength 10 either way. Also where is it stated that that modifier is applied after weapons?
>>47823321
also mkII was artificer made, not mass produced
>>47823284
the strength bonus from option 1 is a straight addition to the models base stats, as in MEQs go to str 5 T5, anyone with a power fist taking option 1 would be str 5 base doubled to str 10 with the fist
>>47823323
>Also where is it stated that that modifier is applied after weapons?
40k rulebook. it says modifiers are applied after weapon buffs. thats why furious charge powerfists are only s9.
its where the whole s10 vs s9 thunder wolf cavalry arguments come up because people argue that it isnt a modifier because of the way the unit entry is written.
>>47823394
It was the Great Crusade, anon. Even the marines were mass produced.
As in, even though MkII had microscopic components, it was still made by the thousands in forgeworlds. But it took too much effort, maybe that's what you're saying?
>>47823402
no its a modifier.
>>47823431
>But it took too much effort, maybe that's what you're saying?
Yes. MkV is objectively the best armor for the war of Horus Heresy.
>want to use the Fireblade's rules because they're almost objectively superior to Blade of the Laer
>don't want to build the model without Blade of the Laer because it looks amazing and any conversion will look like shit in comparison
What do, anons? Use the rules for Fireblade regardless and feel like WAAC scum? Use the rules for Blade of the Laer and cry myself to sleep whenever I face AdMech?
>>47823100
Dubs for truth?
There'd probably be some bitter veterans set in their ways who would refuse to ditch their MKII or MKIII - or simply not have access to it due being deployed at the ass end of the galaxy.
Likewise, while MKIV was being shipped out the fresh recruits would probably be clad in it, but as soon as infrastructure went to shit they'd go back to whatever could be locally produced, ie MKII/MKV.
MKIII has limitations, it is good in close quarters firefights and confined areas being essentially ghetto terminator armour, but outside of that it would be relatively uncommon. I'd imagine it to be more common with units starved of access to terminators, and less common with units closer to or favoured by the primarch.
MKV would be more common in units without any real logistical support, this could be any number of Iron Warriors enclaves or units mangled in the war.
MKVI is the most controversial but consider this: approximately 75,000 Raven Guard were killed at Istvaan V, large portions of which were equipped with MKVI. That means potentially thousands of MKVI armours could find their way into traitor ranks, including Iron Warriors, on top of whatever other prototypes and samples were floating around.
I just think beakies are cool, and Forge World providing some justification for me using it makes me feel good inside.
Behold, the Genevieve Rocha!
>>47823100
Basic dudes in MkIV, sneaky gits in MkIV, plebs in MkV, important people in terminator.
>>47823553
nah, fuck blanche
>>47823580
nah, fuck you
>>47823604
nah#2
>>47823553
Geneviève has a beard and Mohawk?
>>47823580
No. Blanche is better than all of this modern art we have.
>>47823461
What in the rules implies its a modifier that should apply after other bonuses, especially when compared to other rules, like gene crafted or abhuman helots in the Militia and cults list, and the WE inductii rules, all of which hand out base stat increases, Chymeriae rule just say "Bonuses and penalties", no mention of modifiers
>>47823100
I still use MkIV for my Alpha Legion because fuck MkVI. MkIII and MkIV are the face of the heresy to me.
>>47823553
Really don't understand why people love Blanche. Is it rose tinted glasses?
>>47823654
>What in the rules implies its a modifier that should apply after other bonuses
all modifiers apply after other bonuses, it says so in the 40k rulebook.
>>47823648
You can't oldfag forever.
>>47823686
it's better than this
>>47823733
That's fine. I'm taking about recent art.
>>47823736
>Miniguns should never shoot tracer rounds, it looks awful! :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGE23Uykd1Y
And before you say it, the lowermost stream of bulltets doesn't come from a bolter, but from the LR in the back.
Although I'm not a fan of that pic either.
>>47822813
II has cyclops eyes and ribbed legs.
III is so fucking iconic I don't know what's wrong with you. Has a knight grill and riveted armor plate legs and everything.
>>47823762
Like this?
No but srsly, I don't like Blanche.
I simply don't like pics to be mostly red caricatures, but it's subjective, I guess.
I'd post that Bolter+Power sword Horus pic, but many would go on a seizure by seeing it.
>>47823801
>>47823814
>>47823814
>>47823841
Anon, stop! I just had lunch!
>>47823736
I'd have to take this over Blanche. I simply hate Blanche's artwork. It's awful.
>>47823801
Not that. Warzone Fernis, and the Tau update art.
>>47823686
I like his dreamlike quality, where it's less about capturing the picture perfect scenes of 40k and more the atmosphere and mood of the setting. It's like a mood board.
Of course I enjoy other stuff as well, but when it comes to just capturing the chaotic feel of 40k, I always go with Blance. Wayne England also made nice stuff.
Modern 40k art is just the miniatures in approved builds and colour schemes standing around and photoshop filters applied. There's really nothing else to it. It feels like a commercial for the stuff than visions of a nightmarish future (if you don't count the corporate hell that is GW).
>>47823841
blanche really is the best
>>47823889
The fact that I dislike Blanche doesn't blind me to the fact that the Tau art is moronic a lot of the time. And it's caused by GW and their lack of interest in it. Here, I can finally post this one.
Still, Kai Lim and Ukitakumuki do awesome stuff.
>>47823869
>>47823686
I don't think anything hes done has been "good", but his art looks like a nightmare or a fever dream, which captures the nightmare that is the 41st millennium in a way shit like this >>47823736 or this >>47823733 can't
>>47823908
Wayne England is the best. That nigga knew how to draw Khârn and a good skull. Also who drew the picture of Khârn from 2E?
>>47823927
It's good for fanart.
>>47822690
>>47822739
Is there absolutely anyone who likes Erebus?
>>47823949
I have to wonder if Blanche's art isn't based on his own fever dreams.
>>47823949
>captures the nightmare that is the 41st millennium in a way shit like this >>47823736 or this >>47823733 (You) can't
You realize that pic was so good the author actually changed the story to depict it? As in, it reflected 40k better than his story.
Beat that.
>>47823933
>Inferior race
>Posting anime
Son, I think you're a bit confused about the inferior race here.
>>47824099
>>47824141
on /tg/
>>>/a/ is over there
>>47824141
>Mfw people actually like anime
whats the fucking point of land raiders? their rules are shit and they cost almost as much as spartan
FW pls fix landraiders
>>47824218
I watched anime once
It made me realize Japan deserved a 3rd bomb
Well I'm going off for a while to work on some writefaggotry about Quid Fornax. I leave you nigmos a gift, and be sure to behave.
>>47824287
1. Who is this/sauce?
2. I have no idea who/what Quid Fornax is.
>>47823982
My friend is like his biggest fangirl. Meanwhile, my favourite is the armless failure. Such is life.
>>47824249
To make you buy a spartan anon :)
srsly though, LR cost way too much in both 40k and 30k
Phobos should go up to 12 model capacity, so you can attach an IC to a 5 man termy squad and points cut to around 200ish
Proteus should also go to 12, and shouldn't be much more then 170ish points
>>47824323
It's my forge world that I have fluffed out more in one past thread. I don't have the sauce on me.
>>47824360
>My friend is like his biggest fangirl
but why?
>>47824472
I have no idea! I think she likes him for his smug dickishness.
>>47823949
>>47823908
That makes a lot of sense. I like the picture-perfect captures because I think they look cool but I would agree that they don't capture the nightmarish feeling of 40k.
>>47824269
Aye. This I second.
>>47823074
>Not taking an allied detachment of yet more Black Shields so you can 4 reaver lords of the apocalypse.
What the fuck anon.
>>47823736
>gunna be one of 'em zoggin' dayz...
>>47823733
What the fuck is up with that combi plasma.
Look at where the clip is.
>>47825382
>not reconsigning the superiority of the rear-loading bolter
>Calling it a clip
you score a big fat 0
>>47825410
Fuck off. Bolters have never been bullpup and you know it.
GET FUUUCCCKKKEEEDDD>>47825410
>>47825382
It's a bullpup combiweapon. Don't blame me, he had to make sense out of this thing. It's hillarious.
>>47825493
NIGGA SERIOUSLY, IT HAS BEEN AN OFFICIAL THING SINCE A LONG FUCKING TIME.
>>47825382
>>47825493
Here's the model, look closely at his combi-bolter
>>47825493
>what is Codex: Angels of Death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv6XFrQHthU
Which Legion theme would Requiem by Camille Saint-Säens be?
>>47825925
I can imagine a Blood Angel praetor listening to this
I want a Praetor on a bike. FW plz.
>>47826175
That there is what we would call a White Scar.
Why are there two people called "The Red Angel" and neither are Sanguinius?
>>47826207
No. I want a Praetor model on a bike.For my Word Bearers.
>>47826309
You're going to need to perform a very long, overcomplicated ritual for that. One of part involves Hotpockets.
>>47826301
Because he's too pure for that shit.He was indeed going to become THE Red Angel, but Meros took his place
>>47826301
Imitation is flattery
>>47826346
I have pizza.
Do barrage weapons still get pinning?
>>47826346
Doesn't that same ritual require bodily fluids of various varieties and the sacrifice of a model that's been painted painstakingly for at least a month and has never been in battle before being immolated by fire?
Or am I thinking of a different one?
>>47826395
Not stock no
I don't like jetbikes.
I don't want to play White Scars, but apparently that's the only way to have bikes as troops.
FW let me have my biker gang chapter of Word Bearers, plz. Black Comets are too cool.
>>47825925
>>47826088
This is BA approved.
>>47826390
It would halfway count.
>>47826405
Totally different.
i dont get why everybody thinks the leviathan dred is good, it costs as many points as a knight but its just a glorified contempter
I love Angron's warpaint/tattoos. It's on point.
>>47823778
Pintle mounted storm bolter quite clearly
>>47823972
Have some bad news bro Wayne died
>>47826728
It's the vehicle commander shooting his bolt pistol from the cuppola, actually. He's got a fast trigger finger
>>47826611
Yea, but it looks cool as shit and has a sweet drill
>>47826751
Why do you think I said knew instead of know?
>>47826611
The words of someone who's never played against one
>>47826979
Mine held up Dorn, a Chainfist Terminator, and a Thunder Hammer Termie for 4 or 5 rounds of combat. Thing's a beast.
>>47826979
but its not even a superheavy so you can kill it with explodes results and all that shit.
like for pretty much the same cost as a leviathan in a pod you could just take an atrapos or another knight.
>>47823580
Blanche rules. Especially pickelhaube Fulgrim.
>>47823733
>>47823736
These are detailed and well proportioned, but are they fun? Do they have style? Do they have soul?
I want posters of Blanche art to hang on my wall. This art is more like the cover of a videogame.
look at this stylin motherfucker. he doesn't need to be polished in photoshop to SHINE
>>47827040
Yeah but have you ever played against a DDP Levi? I've seen my friends RG Storm cannon levi single handedly win him multiple games. It's not the best unit in the game but it's a fuckin monster. And it can actually pretty reliably kill a knight on the charge if its loaded for cc, and if it is charged it can usually achieve mutual annihilation unless it was charged by a Lancer.
The thing is worth its points.
you can't capture the essence of nobility with photorealism. look at photos of the Queen, she looks like a fucking bag of cockroaches about to split a seam at any moment
nobility demands ART
>>47827563
Are you implying photorealism can't depict greatness and power?
>>47827533
I like this one because it's not what I'd expect a typical Mechanicum character to be. Also, because he's using white instead of "forever-red" (on the character, the background is red because Blanche)
>>47827545
>And it can actually pretty reliably kill a knight on the charge if its loaded for cc, and if it is charged it can usually achieve mutual annihilation unless it was charged by a Lancer.
yeah but so can a contemptor cortus with a chainfist and ccw for less than half the price.
like 2 cortus with duel grav fist/chainfist would cost the same as 1 levi except theyd be better
>>47827596
it's fine for an RPG cutscene or the front of a box set
but a personal touch can evoke in a way that an impersonal touch can't. it's good for crunch, people want to see diagrams and comparison shots and get a grip on what it SHOULD look like, but for fluff you want to convey the FEEL of 40k.
That SOB above isn't just a still of a figurine or a screenshot from a game, she's got this tired sadness in her eyes and she's standing over the exploded corpse of something that just cooked so hot it popped
that admech doctor guy is a cross between Victor Freeze and Von Braun, with the easy demeanor of a professor giving a lecture while he casually rests a hand on an EXECUTIONER'S AXE
And the noble lady just SCREAMS Byzantine. You take one look at her and you know without reading a word what Imperium Nobility is all about
>>47827533
I feel like he's probably a Magos Biologis, he looks like he's got a narthecium type thing on his arm
>>47827732
>You take one look at her and you know without reading a word what Imperium Nobility is all about
Hats?
>>47827873
fuck yeah
>>47827778
>so close
True. Once a magos, always a magos. Although, when I was listening to the medicae personnel logs in the SM vidya they didn't strike as mechanicum, even as they were on a forgeworld and all. Maybe it's because their voices sound too clean?
>>47827732
>that admech doctor guy is a cross between Victor Freeze and Von Braun, with the easy demeanor of a professor giving a lecture while he casually rests a hand on an EXECUTIONER'S AXE
Doesn't strike me that way. I look at him and inferr that he's a particularly swaggy Admech (that's the swaggyest way to use an axe: as a cane) and then the details tell me that he's a biologis.
But trying to agree on subjective matters is kind of pointless, right? Heh, if you see him as Mr. Freeze then honestly good for you :)
Fun fact: nobody called "byzantines" to the byzantines. They called themselves "romans" and everybody else called them "greeks".
And this one is the real byzantine look:^)
>>47827873
>>47827903
Those are truly majestic. Is there a...chainhat somewhere? I remember the necron lord has an axehat, and killed a carnifex (?) by going full Slipknot on its belly
What hairstyle should I give the praetor once he comes out?
Mohawks arent very EC
>>47828152
Keep the mohawk. It looks nice.
>>47828152
Doesn't Eidolon have the haircut to the right?
>>47828152
Helmet.
>>47828443
To the left
What are legion chefs like? Pic related?
>>47828558
Legions themselves probably don't eat fancy, except Emperor's Children and Space Wolves. Ship's crew probably doesn't either, since grimdark. Remembrancers and other civilians, on the other hand, probably eat, if not fancy food, at least normal quality stuff. Chefs are probably still servitors.
>>47828825
The thought of Legionnaires cooking is pretty funny though.
I think Ahriman had wineyards? And they ate bread with honey.
>>47828825
30k isn't as grimdark as 40k. It's actually a lot more bright as a whole. I'll bet it depends on what legion you're serving with on how grimdark your experience is.
>>47828558
>>47828825
>>47828865
It also depends on how warped they have become
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXQCo9fLYWI
I'll leave for dinner now.
>>47828825
I like to imagine legionaries had to shift cooking duties. The Hibachi grill stays though.
>Cooking with Tarik
>>47828920
What would each member of the Mournival be like as a chef?
>>47828918
Just got done eating. I'll have to thank the moon men and my aunt again for the experince. Fortune cookie was odd.
>Harsh words may break bonds, honeyed words promise no parsnips.
>>47828949
Abaddon would probably over-cook and cut everything too much. Tarik would have fun with it. As for Loken and Little Horus I have no idea.
>>47829020
The moon men? I hope we get to eat tacos al pastor again, instead of some stupid sandwiches.
>>47829020
Little Horus would probably serve boring food with all the required nutrients. Probably grey.
>>47829020
moonmen?
>>47829052
So long as there's no fish in the tacos. Tonight was the first time I tried seafood, and shrimp's okay in my book. Everything else is haram because my belief that only death awaits us in the oceans.
>>47829091
That sounds like him.
>>47829109
Japs.
>>47829128
>Everything else is haram because my belief that only death awaits us in the oceans.
Kek, that's the trick. Mankind can kill anything and put it on a plate. And then you can make it a taco/fry it :^)
Except oysters, those things can easily become toxic.It was quesadillas. Meh, I can live with that
>>47829258
>Except oysters, those things can easily become toxic.
Why?
> Mankind can kill anything and put it on a plate. And then you can make it a taco/fry it :^)
The question becomes "should we eat it" if the sea life is an Immortal Jellyfish.
>>47826534
Do you really need it to be pure bikes? The rite that lets you take predators as troops takes relatively few points and leaves a lot available.
You don't have the money for pure bikes, do you?
>>47829407
>You don't have the money for pure bikes, do you?
dark angel bikers are like $5 each, dirt cheap
>>47829310
>>Except oysters, those things can easily become toxic.
Those things are filter feeders, and each & every impurity their body of water contains they store it in their bodies, not to mention non-salted sea food rots particularly easily. Add to it the fact that they're usually eaten raw and it's the perfect recipe for seafood intoxication.
I'm used to eat all kinds of trash, but TWO of those things managed to bed me for about a full day.
>The question becomes "should we eat it" if the sea life is an Immortal Jellyfish.
Not only should you eat it, you should make a whole cuisine out of i. Doesn't matter if it's a psychic poisonous Turritopsis dohrnii (Dorn's a jellyfish kek). And then make it a taco, just because.
>>47828168
The stock head is fucking awful
He looks like one of the guys from Small Soldiers
>>47829407
Yes to both your questions.
But that way I could take them in lower points games as well, and have a huge force of literal Hell's Angels. And the fact that I want to do it, really.
>>47825103
Can you take blackshields as allies for blackshields? Even if you take a different option (orphans, chymeriae, outlanders, etc), they still have the Legiones Astartes (Blackshields) rule. It's not like Blood Angels can take Blood Angels allies. And their rules don't say anything about being able to ally with themselves., at least as far as I can see.
>>47829495
>Those things are filter feeders, and each & every impurity their body of water contains they store it in their bodies, not to mention non-salted sea food rots particularly easily. Add to it the fact that they're usually eaten raw and it's the perfect recipe for seafood intoxication.
>I'm used to eat all kinds of trash, but TWO of those things managed to bed me for about a full day.
So that's why I heard people hate oysters.
>ot only should you eat it, you should make a whole cuisine out of i. Doesn't matter if it's a psychic poisonous Turritopsis dohrnii (Dorn's a jellyfish kek). And then make it a taco, just because.
>wanting to eat a creature that has most likely lived in the oceans for long as there were oceans living like a Highlander
Next thing you'll say is that glass sponges should be turned into tacos.
>>47829611
>>47829689
>Next thing you'll say is that glass sponges should be turned into tacos.
I was kidding...but if it's edible, go ahead.
>>47827637
White was the colour of the AdMech back in the Rogue Trader days. The red thing came later.
If memory serves, the current fluff says red is the AdMech's "war" colour, and white is used by the more civilian branches. Our that might just be bullshit and GW hasn't actually addressed it.
The Ciaphas Cain books poke fun at the confusion from time to time.
1955/2000
Anacharis Scoria -Xanathite Abeyant 315
2 Domintar with Flakk Missiles 360
2 Castellax with Darkfire Cannons, 2 Flamers and Enhanced Targetting Arrays 300
2 Castellax with Mauler Bolt Cannons 210
3 Thallax, 1 Photon Thruster 160
3 Thallax, 1 Photon Thruster 160
The Homonculex with Arc Scourge 185
1 Thanatar Enhanced Targetting Array 265
Scroia walks with the Domintars. Eventually the Thanatar will have to move up due to Scoria being the only model with the Cortex controller. When i expand to 2500 points, i'll be adding an Magos Dominus and more Artalax dudes. Low on models i know. I'm not sold on the Domintars, but other than more castellax, can't think of any other way of giving Scoria groupies.
>>47829854
I don't think these things are edible. The shrimp they imprison? Yes. Look it up.
>>47829868
>can't think of any other way of giving Scoria groupies.
Voraxii can be easily spammed, and Scoria makes automata better at melee. Also, why Thallax instead of Adsecularii?
>>47829890
If what you want is the shrimp, then get the shrimp and leave the poor sponges alone.
So what is the average point value of 30k games? Me and a friend are going to test out the game with our 40k armies.
>>47830026
like 2.5k or 3k
>>47829943
Cost mostly, I already have the thallax.
Never thought of vorax as a Scoria posse
>>47830277
Hit post by accident, never thought of that idea of vorax instead of dominators, interesting I must say
>>47827929
Victor Freeze was swag incarnate
>>47830277
>>47830292
Well I saw them more as "Scorias' expendable automata". Take him as a Cybernethica HQ, use his exclusive Rite of the Beast power and it becomes hillarious:
I6 Vorax that reroll failed to-hits and add +1" to movement and charge distance (which they can reroll, because Fleet). And Scoria can do all of this while 24" away from the things, because Cybernethica.
>>47830209
Thanks!
Someone repost the 7,000 point beep-boop list, I can't remember it.
I know you take Perturabo, like around 24 beep-boops, two tactical squads, and I think a forgelord?
>>47830551
Wait, nah, because it came out to 52 models, that can't be right.
Hmmm... What was it?
>>47822690
"Aurelian" definitely made me reconsider Lorgar. Much different character from the one before.
Knight anon here. Here's my very WIP 2000 point Imperial Fists army so far...the theme I'm going for is an armored spear tip led by Sigismund on Mars (gonna base with that Mars stuff). I'm a terrible painter but at least from a distance it looks coherent...what are you guys working on?
>>47831601
He only wanted the truth, anon.
Don't we all?
>look up aurelian
>get this
http://www.blacklibrary.com/aurelian.html
>mfw it comes out on my birthday.
>>47831789
Whoops, should be came out instead of comes out.Kill me, please. I'm usually such a good grammar arbites.
kitbashing some Word Bearer cataphractii terminators out of junk I had lying around, I was going for the corrupted holy man angle with the robes and hoods.
>>47831996
Looks nice! Can't wait to see them painted.
>>47825498
>he had to make sense out of this thing
Magnets to drag the bolt into the chamber? I mean the TKB-022 (actual gun the Soviets made because Russians love wacky weapons) had a magazine all the way in the back like this but at least the magazine was aligned with the barrel. Pic related
>>47832029
>but at least the magazine was aligned with the barrel
That's precisely the issue with the weapon. It better teleports each round into the chamber or something, otherwise it just doesn't make sense.
Did Alpharius Omegon become two after their abduction, or had it started before? After, right?
>>47832017
yeah might start on them tomorrow, pretty keen to get paint on them, but have to host a BBQ and drinks tonight. They will be done up like this guy (pic very much related)
>>47831756
Nice work, anon!
>>47832326
Thanks man. Here have a pic of my newly updated and semi painted 2500 point army that caused outrage on the general last weekend
why should I pay 50 more points for dual-grav contemptors over the traditional dual-grav boxnought?
this question has been bothering me all day.
>>47832636
because a contemptor cortus is only 10 points more and has fleet, can get rage or +1 initiative, etc.
>>47832636
>>47832682
and the 5+ invuln on the front arc. or if you pay the iron price and get a normal contemptor...BS5 makes a big difference (in my opinion)
>>47823100
>>47823520
My Death Guard follow strict rules:
MKII for everyone, except:
MKIII for breachers
MKIV for anyone who handles phosphex (Siege Master, Destroyers, Rapier/Medusa Crew pretty much)
(in theory, there would be other rules to account for things like Recon or whatever, but as I don't have any I haven't bothered to clarify yet)
DG were grandpas, they liked old, proven-trustworthy stuff over new-fangled armor or other tech. They upscaled only due to features of new armor for the conditions, such as MKIII having better frontal armor under conditions where the lowered mobility didn't matter, and the better design of MKIV for routinely phosphex-exposed units (MKII/MKIII had a billion joints because it was basically a thousand interlocking bands, instead of MKIV's design of a dozen slabs of curved plate with adjustable conduit-joins. Also each segment of MKIV was isolated, while MKII/MKIII exposed the whole body if a single puncture occurred.)
So basically the same idea; MKII for line troops, specialist suits for specialists.
It helps that MKII is the classical Death Guard "style", and that it lines up with Forge World's modelling for the most part.
>>47832157
DAOT people
>Look at this bolter I made the barrel and magazine are out of alignment so instead it teleports the bolt into the chamber
>Why not just line up the barrel with the magazine?
>I don't understand the question
>>47832303
I like your Bears a lot.
Do you own an airbrush or how do you do it?
>>47832739
>MKIV for anyone who handles phosphex
Why? Is Mk IV particularly resistant to chemicals and/or phosphex or is it some sort of elite tradition thing going on?
>>47832494
I remember that, but I like Knights.
You could play just a kniht household..thjs is better.
Only thing is hat your knights seem to have no personal or house heraldry yet.
Do you plan something in that regard?
>>47832767
He said that he thinks MKIV has less esxposed joints etc.
I also like the idea that the phosphex bunnies need to run away more and probably get melted more often...so new armour for them makes sense..doesnt it?
Somehow have to restock the losses.
>>47822690
>fuck Erebus
Would you?
>>47832773
haven't decided on heraldry yet. the way I wanted to fluff it to make it "My Dudes" would be to have it be Sigismund's speartip Templar force that allied with a zealous/melee/crusade-oriented Knight household on Mars while retaking it from the Dark Mechanicum. what kind of heraldry do your knights have?
>>47832915
I have none...
Just a fluff slut.
>>47832924
I'll accept any recommendations you come up with. I think after I finish painting these models I'll be done buying 30k stuff until the next plastic set...then I'll be building either Thousand Sons or Blood Angels in the fall.
>>47832798
You'd have to turn me into a servitor first. Besides, everybody knows you need to go after the Astartes with daddy issues.
>>47832960
Its relatively easy, just go through the books again with a focus on knughts.
The texts and images show and talk about a lot oftabards and heraldry.
I believe some chess board muster might look nice, but would be hard to do...yellow plus white AND black.
But could look good on a shoulder, the Lamenters rock it as well after all.
>>47832758
DAOT people
>Behold, this is the Combat Augment Array! It enhances the wearer's combat abilities, but there's a small risk of self injury
>Does it make toast?
>Of course not, silly! Why would it do such a thing?
>Because I ordered a toaster!
>But can a toaster pulp men with its bare hands? Didn't think so.
>>47823982
I do. He's just so delightfully evil and he's REALLY fucking good at what he does.
>>47833001
Ps:Chess pattern is classic warhammer, also a reason.
>>47832739
>DG were grandpas
DG were a lot of new recruits given their huge casualty ratio, the only grandpas were the terrans. They did love displaying the damage on their armour, however. "Already survived this, got anything else?".
>Also each segment of MKIV was isolated, while MKII/MKIII exposed the whole body if a single puncture occurred
Sauce? I want moar of it.
>MKII for line troops, specialist suits for specialists.
MkIV was conceived as The Line troops' armour, and only because most MkII suits were too worn out. What I've seen the DG wear the most was MkIII due to them almost always doing war in zones mortalis or some other death zones. Because MkIII is the classical DG style, not MkII.
>>47833001
>>47833028
chess pattern seems really tough to do. and my painting skills are...acceptable. like borderline THIN YOUR PAINTS. but I'll admit they do look sexy as fuck.
>>47830551
Perty 455
*Six Iron circle 1230
Centurion with 45 points of gear
Six Domitar-Ferrum 1230
Six Domitar-Ferrum 1230
Six Domitar-Ferrum 1230
Six Domitar-Ferrum 1230
10 Tacticals 150
10 Tacticals 150
>>47833240
Maybe try it some left over minis you have lying around...masking tape could work..never did it myself , so take it with a grain of salt.
>>47832767
Well it helps that Mk IV is the standard for Destroyers
Though I'd really like to see what a Breacher helmet (>>47822803) looks like on non-breachers, I love that uncompromising blank slab of metal look
>>47828152
Third one
>>47832283
The novels suggest before
There were astrological signs so 12 of them are aligned with the horoscope
Aquarius the water bringer - fulgrim means just that
Sagittarius - Horus given that ring
Leo the Lion
Taurus the bull - Gorgon is a steel bull
Gemini - the twins
The other 8 priamarchs are associated with the heavenly bodies Mercury etc
Who's hyped? Will you buy it?
I'm looking forward to more Night Lord action.
>>47834125
It's apparently Mediocre. I'd wait for the usual supplier, but he's vanished into the aether.
>>47834224
Yeah. Is The hunt for Vulkan out yet? I can't find a single torrent for it.
>>47834396
Do you know if BL has a way to see who uploaded a file? Because I've got it but I'm nervous.
>>47827040
Knights are not a Lord of War choice for legions.
>>47823982
Fuck no. I want to hit Erebus like Air New Zealand Flight 901.
>>47834555
What have Sheep Fuckers got to do with Erebus?
>>47834425
I assume not because others have uploaded for years and not been caught.
>>47834570
Controlled Flight Into Terrain
>>47834425
If we worried about that, then we wouldn't have the ton of HH Hardback Scans we have.
>>47834425
Someone shared Path of Heaven on here when it came out. So no. Hopefully someone will share Angels of Caliban when it comes out in a few hours.
Anyone read the Sigvald book?
Is it good?
>>47834425
Share it man
>>47823096
That rule seems absolutely crystal clear to me - one reroll only. I can't see how on earth you get to the idea of rerolling until you fail a reroll.
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=71880782936748072423.
Here
In a similar vein to that guilliman armour question, if you have multiple dudes in a squad with master-crafted weapons, (RG dark furies for example,) do you roll each model's attacks individually, or can you roll to hit for the whole squad of say 5 dudes at once and then reroll up to 5 failed rolls?
>>47831756
Awful
>>47834817
That's Hunt for Vulkan, I mean
>>47834102
Where did you get this from?
>>47834817
>>47834844
It isn't working, man.
>>47834995
It isn't? If it's the link try this one, but if it's something else I don't know what to do. On phone.
http://www.megafileupload.com/bb2c/Hunt_for_Vulkan.zip
>>47835109
Yeah, hitting the download link downloads "download.php", but the new link is working fine. Thanks dude.
>>47834224
I know who you speak of. He will hopefully be back.
>>47834224
I gotta read it anyways.
>>47835123
No problem! Links tend to be rebellious on my phone.
How do you do a chipped effect on white armour? Here are some world eaters I'm working through.
>>47829855
Red is used by the mechanicus to pay homage to the bithplace of their religion and organisation, Mars, the red planet.
>>47824635
I like it when there's different styles and ideas put into the art. I had to go and buy the old Collected Visions book the moment I learned the Visions of Heresy changed the fluff and art. I want that shitty old art, because there's always fun ideas to pick up and put into your armies.
>>47835493
Select an armor edge or flat surface on something like pauldrons or greaves, then hit it in a streaking motion with dark silver (leadbelcher), do it again with light silver (runefang steel), and if you chose a flat surface instead of starting on an armor adge, add a teeny dab of black (Abaddon black) in the center of the silvers.
>>47834836
what's wrong man
>>47835636
All the old art is still in Visions of Heresy. It's now just placed around text that relates to it rather than haphazardly strewn throughout the book.
>>47834125
>Read by John Banks
As in, both the Lgion, Curze, all the marines and everyone has the same voice, like what happened in Fear to Thread when Sanguinius and Horus had the same voice as the female captain and the aliens?
Because that was dumb
Why is the contemptor-mortis cheaper than a normal contemptor with identical (i.e. double gun) loadout? What am I missing?
>>47835520
And white used to represent the purity of the machine, and logic.
>>47836627
The only possible thing I can think of is because the regular Contemptor has more options to upgrade...but you'd think the cost of those upgrades should just be the cost to upgrade them.
>>47832494
This armies symmetry appeals to me. Obviously WIP but looks good boss
>>47836879
thanks! symmetry is kinda my biggest turn-on when it comes to army building, and I'm glad it worked out for this 2000-2500 pt list.
>>47836928
Also you used the good emp champ model. May you tastefully fist you enemies to death anon.
>>47835109
Thank you very much.
Still nothing about Angels of Caliban?
>>47836600
ha? from what I remember fear to tread was pretty good, the bloodthirster had a deep booming voice, the keeper had a hilarious gay lisp and everyone else was okay too
So how on earth did big E think the World Eaters and Angron in particular were a good idea? Even pre-heresy those guys had chaos written all over them, how did he trust them?
>>47838117
Haven't bought it yet.
