Give me a scenario in which "becoming the little girl" can be done in a way that isn't disruptive to the game by nature, isn't solely dictated by fetish logic, makes sense in-universe and can create a useful and interesting character concept/plot hook/setting element.
I know that some of you are dropping trou this very moment, but the less fetishy the idea is, the more likely it is it'll give you an opportunity to play it in the future.
>>47690982
Eclipse Phase.
A game about reincarnation
But really, if you're starting with the fetish and then looking for a way to justify it, you're doing it wrong. Either play an ERP where everyone can openly play their fetishes, or keep your fetishes out of it.
Your character is a catboy who then gets genderswapped into a catgirl.
>>47690982
A geas or binding to a deity or similarly powerful entity that allows for resurrection, but due to the laws governing the plane concerning resurrection and potential necromancy, the person bound is placed into a created newborn body that rapidly ages over a couple of days until they reach their age prior to death.
...bloody hell, I need to shorten that.
Also you could be going in disguise to gather evidence of child slavery.
>>47691045
>But really, if you're starting with the fetish and then looking for a way to justify it, you're doing it wrong
Fucking this. Listen to this guy OP. Because right now you're coming off as extremely desperate and the thin veil of an attempt to hide it isn't working.
Other serious answer, just drop the veil and play Maid RPG or something about animu magical girls or some other game where everyone already knows it's blatant fetish-driven magical realm.
>>47690982
When it wasn't intentional. Maybe you were cursed, and this is something you're actively looking for a way to solve. Maybe, like OP's pic, you're transmigrating yourself to live forever and the only available candidate was a child. Again, it's by no means an ideal scenario, but in the quest for immortality, what's spending a handful of decades as someone with a different set of part?
>>47690982
Shadowrun has Neoteny
For (High-Magic) Fantasy settings, I guess it'd be logical for a prodigy mage/cleric?
Or, (my personal favourite) you could be the DESTINED HERO, but the ANCIENT EVIL awoke about 10-20 years early
You guys to save the princess from a dragon.
Amid the figthing the princess dies.
The wizard comes with a plan, he will polymorph you so they can take the ramsom and later they will come for you.
And so the deed is done, and your group goes with the Money yet they never return nor does the magic faulter.
>>47691045
>>47691092
If I wanted to play my magical realm, I'd play my magical realm. I have a game up where I do exactly that.
I'm just trying to start discussion and get people to think about something that I almost universally see either shat on or overplayed so heavily that it must be a false-flag attack on the fetishists. Seeing what people do when told to make something playable out of a sensitive topic is always fun, and it might give people some new ideas.
I have all the ideas I need in the first place, and a group in which I can play them out if I want to.
>>47691145
What kind of answer are you really hoping to get? Generally there's a reason kids don't become adventurers. Unless the entire party is child-adventurers in some fluffy cuddly pokemon-world, the character is probably just going to end up as a useless escort-target who needs to be babysat all the time. That or they'll end up with copious amounts of plot-armor when the players or the GM don't wana see a kid die.There's also Arya Stark I guess... but even that feels pretty spotlight-stealing in a party full of otherwise "normal" characters.
Halfling in disguise casing a location to rob it later. No one suspects the little girl who is actually a grown-ass man.
>>47691189
Magic and technology exist, and are capable of making a child's limitations mostly irrelevant. Also, plot armor is the decision of a lazy GM or player who's afraid of drama and narrative progression - instead of having things happen according to the established rules of the setting and the events of the plot until then, they choose to have it happen according to their own personal sensibilities (which is also why Chick tracts are bad and why Tumblr doesn't put out good indie games). If people don't want to roleplay and just want to masturbate over their own sociopolitical opinions, let them play with their groups, but roleplaying is defined by the use of imagination. "Some people have thin skin and aren't willing to tell a story because it might offend them that events sometimes take their course and might cause actual drama and conflict" isn't an excuse, and one more reason that this should be talked about is that it gets people used to breaking taboos in roleplaying.
Both social-justice political correctness and fetish-phobic grognardism are restraining roleplaying from both sides - remember, roleplaying is not reality, and wanting to play something does not mean wanting to do it in the real world. Things like this should be brought up simply to stir shit, so that people remember that roleplaying is about getting and exploring ideas, not setting up blacklists of taboo concepts and judging people who want to play them.
Don't judge an idea before someone has tried to write it into a setting, and preferably not before it's been done five-six times and failed every time.
>>47691328
I'm fairly convinced you're just baiting now, so I'm just gonna leave.Also DEPENDS ON THE SETTING
>>47690982
I played a little girl once. Helped that being little girl was not the original goal for making the character. I was mostly toying around with character ideas that revolved around making constructs, saw the soul bound doll monster and from there I just had to make a traumatized little girl who obsessively stitched together little dolls of everyone she becomes remotely close to so she never has to loose anyone else again when they inevitably.
>>47691466
>When they inevitably die.
Not sure why it posted without that chunk.
>how do you play a hyper muscle furry with dick nipples who uncontrollably shits xirself all of the time?
>I'm just trying to start discussion and get people to think about something that I almost universally see either shat on or overplayed so heavily that it must be a false-flag attack on the fetishists. just want to know how you could play that in a reasonable manner haha
>>47691548
All right, so every single little girl you see on the street is a conglomeration of unholy fetish fantasies and must be seen in the context of being the object of desire of horrible deviants instead of, you know, a large chunk of the normal human demographic.
I'm sure you're a blast at family parties.
>>47691560
Little girls I see on the street aren't grown men turned into little girls through fetish magic because an invisible horny grognard wanted to get his rocks off.
>>47691576
You know what's behind every proper decision that makes sense in-game?
That's right, a reason.
Instead of only seeing the fetish (in which case you should take a lot of early fantasy into consideration), try seeing it for what it can do to the story, what kind of characters it makes possible and what people actually get out of it.
Cagliostro in the OP became popular because he was a departure from the usual taboo of not rendering the perfect little girl unattractive. He became popular not because he was a fetish fantasy, but because he wasn't the audience's fetish fantasy by virtue of having made his own choice, which of course characterized him.
He became an interesting character who questioned the line between audience and main character, and he became that because his creators didn't cop out.
>>47691548
>comparing little girls to scum
You, sir, are a scoundrel and a ruffian.
>>47692051
You make me so, so tired.
>>47690982
>The character is disguising themselves as a specific NPC. Noble children are easy to impersonate, since they're important but aren't expected to know a lot.
>The character is a reincarnation who retains the memories of their past life.
>The character is an assassin who wants to seem harmless by playing up the "lost little kid" act.
>The character steals bodies, and isn't picky as long as they're human and in good physical health (e.g. they "adopt" the healthiest orphan from an orphanage).
>There is a magic item/ward etc. which is tied to members of a certain family; in order to use it, the character must use magic to impersonate one of them.
>There is a being of godlike power which currently takes the form of a little girl (it could be artificially created and genuinely young, or an amnesiac deity or something). The character steals its body to gain its power.
>The character is crazy and trying to stand in for their dead sister/daughter/etc. (or another character's dead sister/daughter/etc.).
>Someone else was crazy and tried to force the character into that role.
>The party's minds are projected to a distant land and time, inhabiting bodies of the natives.
>>47691576
Are you sure?
>>47690982
Character that has lived for so long the boundaries between male and female appears blurred for him.
Ohman, all the weeaboos trying to justify their fetishes here with fancy words and long explanations is kind of hilarious.
>"IT'S FOR THE STORY GUISE, I PROMISE!"
Yeah, you guys aren't fooling anyone. If you actually had any intention of playing your fetishes without them being fetishes, you'd just do it with your group, whom would realize you're going to be serious and mature about it, instead of scraping together every half-assed reason you can think of to justify it to strangers on the internet in the hopes it's somehow going to change your group's mind or something.
Can it be done well? Yes.
Is anyone in this topic actually going to do it well? Fuck no.
>>47692225
>Not "the character has lived so long they've stopped giving a fuck and thought being a little girl would be fun and tricking people into underestimating them amusing"
It's like you aren't even trying
You could just like.. play a normal fucking character who happens to be a little girl. If you really aren't doing it for fetish reasonswe all do it for fetish reasonsthen your group should know you're mature enough not to be a creep about it.
>>47692264
It's also pretty funny how they always claim they're "doing it for the interesting story elements" but then absolutely, completely, totally refuse to play ANY other character concepts that have just as much interesting story potential, if not more, and don't make the entire group cringe... but AREN'T related to their fetish. There will ALWAYS be an excuse. There will always be a "I'll play a normal adult character/male character next time", and always some new excuse when next time comes around.
>>47690982
See shit like this is why me and the 3 other dudes who rotate GM duty created a multidimensional insane prankster god that can and dose exist in every universe continuity and timeline so our players know when he shows up shits bout to get weird oddly enough he is one of our players favorite recurring NPCs as his comeing heralds stupid retarded shenanigans and his mucking about normally gets hit with a retconned by him though sometimes it stays depending on how many laughs were had and who's doing the GMing that day so yeah just make one of those you're set
>>47690982
Going through an Elan rebuild. Since they can literally turn any race into a human lookalike, I think they can cover ages and looks pretty easily too.
>>47690982
This >>47692371
Also, ffs, if your GM doesn't allow you to pick the appearance of your own character you should just fuck off the table. Unless you insist in having our character BE 10 y.o. or something, I can't think of anyone who isn't a shithead saying that you can't play a twenty-something girl who just happens to be short and flat. I know so many of them irl it's not even funny, not like it's unrealistic or anything. After that you just find a way to lock your appearance, like magic.
Basically:
Doing it right - play the shorty flat normal human female magician, acquire immortality/agelessness
Doing it wrong - playing a male whatever-age magician who shapeshifts into a little girl.
The former, sane people won't bat an eye to. The latter, evenSpeedwagonI would be afraid.
>>47692264
Eh, it definitely isn't for story. But really, character appearance and gender isn't something that should be important to other players in general. I'm not a little girl player, though they're always female characters just because I like to see women kick ass, so let's advocate in their stead a bit.
Most typically, people go "Okay, I'm a male human fighter. I'm tall and manly, strong, wear heavy armor, sword and shield. Now, my story? It's like..." but starting like that is incredibly superficial, since the appearance generally has no impact on the story or roleplaying done.
Now, let's start differently, in a story orientated way: "I was born into a lineage of soldiers, but my father was apparently a coward and didn't follow the path my elders set for him, instead choosing a life of shirkying his duties and alcohol. He abandoned me and my mother to avoid being conscripted into the army, bringing dishonor to our family, and because the law not always brings justice, over-taxing due to his escapade made my mother have to overwork herself just so that we could get by. Because she was never around, I was raised by my elders to be a warrior and what father never was, to try my hand at knighthood and make money so that we can climb out of poverty again. Eventually shit happened and..."
Chances are you can guess the character class from the story that is being told, right? But what about the gender and appearance?
So, not all that important, am I right?
>>47690982
A female character gets hit by [a] age reduction spell.
Bam. Bingo bango.
>>47692856
But anon, they have to be a boy first or else that's not my fetish!
>>47692833
I can guess from the story being told that your character probably isn't 10 year old fetish bait, or any other flavor of Magical Realm.
But your story, and way of speaking in general, isn't the same as OPs, or anyone else's in this thread. You're one of the few people who'd probably get the benefit of the doubt even if a fetish flag did come up.
>>47690982
A witch who is moderately good at transmutation and has recently learned how to cast baleful polymorph: she knows that she is only powerful enough to disable an enemy species if she transforms it to a younger and less strong version.
For some reason, she also dislikes killing things, so instead of doing that she transforms the "would be heroes" there to save her latest test subjects into little girls, who do not have the mental and physical requirements to be a threat to her.
>>47692225
You mean, someone so wrinkly, old, and ambiguous they appear to have no gender?
You ain't lookin' like no little girl, anon.
>>47693996
No, that's not what he meant at all, you moron. Stop trying to appear witty.
>>47694027
Of course, he meant the version where he gets to play out his fetish.
You know, for the "interesting and compelling """story reasons""""
>>47694027
>>47691466
That's a pretty fantastic character concept!
>>47690982
When the summoner class came out, figured I'd give it a try and the character concept ended up like the little sisters from Bioshock, so I went with it. Rolled up a little girl with a big angry eidolon, and went through the campaign misinterpreting complex words and riding on the eidolon's back. Was a grand old time and it didn't get weird because the character concept wasn't based off of fetishes.
Your fellow players will not care what the concept is, as long as it's coming from a non-creepy place. And they will be able to tell, no exceptions.
Back before I knew furries were a thing, a highschool friend of mine made a beastman character of some sort, if I remember correctly, it was a wolf. I remember the character feeling off and it made me uncomfortable but I couldn't tell why. Of course in time, I learned what furries were and it all clicked in to place.
I'm rambling a bit at this point but it is what it is.
Lots of solid ideas here OP. If you're the GM there are some good options to pick from here, on the other hand, if you're a player, talk to the GM about the fetish and see if you guys can't come to some kind of agreement for story direction.
>>47691122
Best one here lad
>>47693996
I was actually thinking of vampire stories (amongst other) where it happen all the time.
>>47690982
>Becoming
Why not simply BEING one?
And you should most definitely try the eternal classic, with someone obsessed with regaining youth and getting too much of it in the end. If not put into some fetishistic extreme (which it sadly often ends up), it can work out just fine.
Speaking of fetishes, if you are trying to find a justification for one, just don't do it. Seriously, don't.
>>47691189
>the character is probably just going to end up as a useless escort-target
Bullshit.
Currently running a game with my old group and one of the guys FINALLY get himself a girlfriend. To help him out, we all accept her with open arms (and the fact she's really cool helps a lot). So naturally we invited her for out games, this way having more than a single chick in the party. The new girl? She made a 11 year old character. Everyone first reaction was not-exactly-discreet "This is going to suck some big flaccid cock".
Thing is, she made a street urchin. Suddenly the party gained unsuspicious scout, thief, lookout, burglar that can get almost everywhere and last thing you are expecting is a knife in your thigh from a little girl.
And when we were working in a dungeon? Well, she stayed on the surface, roaming freely in the dig site run by the archeologist who hired the party to clean the ruins. So nobody supervised the kid, while she was busy stealing all the stuff previously declared by the party as useful.
Kids are not a dead-weight. They just can't be used in front lines. Unless of course they are Kalashnikov's Kids:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzsggsf6-iE
>>47691189
Witch-in-training always works.
Nobody expects from you to stand and fight. Nobody expects from you to cast a fireball. Nobody expects from you anything spectacular, really.
Which means you are a perfect skill monkey combined with some semi-randomised spells and depending on game you are playing, this can in fact make you the most useful character in entire party. Just don't expect anyone taking such PC idea serious.
>>47694698
Have you ever encountered a 1000-year-old loli vampire in-game, /tg/?Have you ever played one?
>>47694847
I'd leave a game the moment it happened 2bh
>>47694847
Three years ago we found a new GM via ads. He appeared to be a fine guy, his scenarios were pretty engaging... and then he pulled on us "700 year old sorceress" in a body of 8 year old girly girl, which he described in every possible detail. An obvious loli.
That was the last game we had with him.
What is good about the Unchained Rogue? Why is it better than a regular Rogue?
>>47694847
Evangeline was fun for two reasons
>Overpowered wizard with No Sense of Right and Wrong
>Acts deliberately creepy just to see the other characters get flustered.
For the same reasons, trying to play Evangeline as a PC is a terrible, terrible idea.
The vampire sisters from Touhou are brats and magnets for powerlevel wank.
Rachel Alucard from BlazBlue might be workable, assuming the player is mature enough not to just spend all their time insulting the other PCs.
>>47695883
Clearly an unchained rogue is better because how would one sneak around with chains on?
>>47694847
Nope, merely a 200 years old loli vampire.
I'm playing a fucking wizard. That in and of itself should be sufficient.
If you really need more, he's doing some avant-garde magical research that his peers/the lords of the land/dirty peasants might take offense to, so he becomes the little girl to evade prying eyes.
>>47691045
>>47691092
This mindset can fuck right off. There's nothing wrong with a fetish basis if you're making a character out of it. As long as it doesn't begin and end at fetish, you're golden.
>>47695916
I just need to know if its strictly better than base Rogue. A player is asking about it.
>>47696048
Playing a child is an entire different box of worms as well.
It begins at fetish and ends with a character who handicaps your party. Jack off before you come to the table.
>>47696138
You're right anon, [sweeping generalization] is obviously true and I concede.
Perverted ancient transhumans in cybernetic bodies or having body farm where they grow new little girls in vats to replace their bodies as they age. Only way to do it right.
>>47696138
Anon, even in this very thread there were examples of useful child PCs, so kindly fuck off
Here, so it won't be just hollow word and so you can enjoy being spoon-fed
>>47694750
>>47694786
>>47691059
My group is starting a super weeb campaign, everyone has to make the most cringe anime character for it. I'm totally stealing this.
>>47696571
Play it totally straight though. No funny business and let no NPCs or PCs get fresh with you!
On the topic of slipping fetish material into campaigns without it feeling unnaturally forced in any way, what have you anons managed to get by with? I imagine some stuff is a lot easier to slip by naturally than other things. What would be one of the hardest normal (or at least what's considered normal around these parts) fetishes to pull off with out it being squick inducing?
>>47696796
Well, adding magic and alchemy into the mix tends to make regular fetishes more 'fantastic'.
>>47696796
>How
By not inserting fetishes, but plot elements, you dumb nigger
>>47696900
Same thing
>>47696796
Non-sexual BDSM and lolis (again non-sexual) are pretty easy to insert anywhere without anyone noticing unless you make them too common.
>>47696796
Pretty much all my NPCs are jerks. Players think it's because I'm throwing obstacles on them. Boy, oh boy...
