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>>47662394
![[WATER].gif](https://i.imgur.com/86oQX9G.gif "[WATER].gif")
Land or Sea, /jc/?
>>47673955
Seaside Land.
>>47673955
SkyPirates, clearly it's the best choice.
>>47673955
Land, there are mountains and sheep
>>47673955
Burn the land, boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me.
>>47673955
Team Aqua all the way.
>>47674016
>Going with either team
Their plans are bad and they should feel bad.
>>47674030
Not as bad as Zinnia's.Because her plan encapsulates both of theirs plus some other retarded shit about sabotaging any efforts to stop the meteor that don't involve her because of her hero complex.
>>47674030
True. But of the two, Aqua is clearly superior.
>>47673955
Space
>>47673955
Land, sea, I'm the guy with the trumpet.
>>47674048
>>47674001
I get that reference and I love it
>>47674104
Where'd you get that picture of young Captain Brutus?
>>47674202
You may as well ask how I end up with pictures of all the young tripfags and avatarfags.
>>47674250
Do you have a young Al**~* English?
>>47674250
Even me?!
>What happens if someone only gets the OOO driver, Ancient Driver, or Coin Flip and some Core Medals, or Greed is Good? Are they left powerless while others aren't? Would losing the Core Medals from Greed is Good kill you? Actually would that happen if you lose them normally?
Ah, I see what you mean.
I should probably specify that the only medals attracted by this are canon medals, so Greed is Good doesn't get fucked by this, as Greed is Good only gives you a Jumper medal combo
Ancient Driver also gives you a jumper medal, the only person who would be possibly fucked would be probably someone with only the OOO driver
But remember that you can get the purple medal combo in the DLC, and that might be downright beneficial for you as their greed-bane effects would be effective against the Mad King due to using almost all greed-based stuff!
I'll figure out how to do that, but for now, it might be best to invest in the purple medals if that build is the case
They combo nicely with all the other Core Medal treasures as well
>>47674250
>Implying you have pictures of me.
>>47674250
Man you must have been busy when we were younger.
>>47673955
Space.
>>47674329
While you're fielding Neo Hessei questions, since the Power Cosmic's most runs on friendship we're trying to come up with a way of using it without, you know. Resorting to drastic measures like being friendly or having friends.
Suppose you had a way of storing emotions as energy (Fear Tech, Monsters Inc), one of your companions is capable of manipulating friendship as an energy field (The Power of Friendship, Chroma Squad) and you have a knack for reverse engineering mass-energy conversion phenomena (Creative Composer, Ar Tonelico)
Suppose you then had a form of technology that interfaces with the human psyche (Psychonautics, Psychonauts), another form of technology that can extract brainwaves as a tangible energy field (Collective Brainwave Charger, Biomega), two forms of technology which involve mass-energy conversion with an exotic energy component that is modulated by a specific emotional mindset (Song Science, Ar Tonelico/Pagan Science, Symphogear) and a secondary form of technology that can add a dimensional component to the broadcast of sonic-based exotic energy transmissions (Touched by the Protoculture+Listen to my Voice!, Macross).
Then let's say you have both access to forms of psychic technology (Bonesinger/Tall and Narrow Gate, Eldar) and technology belonging to that same race capable of containing psychic emissions (Pre-Fall Science, Commoragh). To cap it all, suppose you have an adaptive form of infrastructure (City of Heaven, Lord of Light) and forms of technology which automatically assimilate, adapt and upgrade what they're exposed to (Karmatron Dynamics/Regenerator Nano, GUNNM and Orb Design Plans, Swat Kats and Defragmentation Device, Blame!)
(cont'd)
>>47674661
In short-if one created an extradimensional emotion storage/refinement facility and used an interdimensional door system to collect friendship energy from a populated area before transmitting it via Wraithbone/grathnode occult matrixes through the main facility, can you run Power Cosmic-based technology from friendship harvested from other people? Would there be a noticeable increase in the quality of the technology if said energy and the technology used to process it were to be refined several times into a higher quality form e.g. by altering it such that it has greater latent energy?
Or does it /absolutely/ require personal investment in the friendship to do all the mass-energy conversion properly?
>>47674661
>>47674673
You disgust me, and I hope Gentaro befriends the everliving fuck out of you.
>>47674661
>>47674673
Why don't you just get the other drop-in capstone and power them on something that isn't so antithetic to yourself you'd rather harvest it from another society than feel it yourself?
>>47673955
Water
>>47674707
I think he's got some subconscious self-destructive impulse resulting from self-loathing after Cosmic Fire left him. In truth, he wants to get shot into space then kicked down to Earth by a rocket drill. This is just his way of goading Gentaro into doing it. Shame that with all his perks he's likely to survive it, meaning that he's near certain to be befriended afterwards.
http://pastebin.com/E2hDaWZm
Noumenon update.
11 new room perks
Room perks will be 200 Each
Curses will only function within jump and serve to discount the perks they are attached to.
There will be no limit to the amount of Curses you can take but there will still be drawbacks.
>>47674707
We have it, actually. The main concern is a loss in power efficiency from running it on something it's not intrinsically designed for. We're just exploring all our options here before giving up and just firing up the thaumic fusion reactors or antimatter circuits or something. The despair engines sadly aren't going to cut it since that apparently makes the energy become self-destructive.
>>47674690
Not if we use the Path of Victory to figure out how to be the least befriendable person in the world to him specifically, he won't!
>>47674735
Get off the internet, Elodie.
>>47674811
>Not if we use the Path of Victory to figure out how to be the least befriendable person in the world to him specifically, he won't!
Path to Victory doesn't work on something with a 0% possibility rate.
>>47674268
I don't really need a picture of her.She's already here.
>>47674291
Of course.
>>47674409
You're the guy in the back.
>>47674673
>Or does it /absolutely/ require personal investment in the friendship to do all the mass-energy conversion properly?
yes
>>47674841
Kid Flash?
I'm not sure if I should be insulted or not.
>>47674888
No, behind him.
>>47674888
The joke.
Your head.
>>47674838
But that's implying there's a literally 0% rate for Gentaro to befriend us, when we are in a way the personification of every bad thing that has ever happened to his other friends-
>>47674871
>yes
o-okay
>>47674743
Um, what's this setting about?
>>47674894
You son of a...
angrymanslowclapping.gif
How bad of an idea would it be to free the Fallen from their denarians in the Dresden Files?
>>47674894
>>47674896
...God damn it.
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>>47674918
>But that's implying there's a literally 0% rate for Gentaro to befriend us, when we are in a way the personification of every bad thing that has ever happened to his other friends-
You're not familiar with Kamen Rider Fourze, are you? This is a man who came back from the dead just so he could tell his murderer "Hey, it's okay, I know you had your reasons." And he somehow did this without invoking any Christ allusions. Gentaro can befriend literally anything. If he fights you, it will only be so that he can subdue you long enough to have a heart to heart conversation with you about how he thinks you're a great person who deserves happiness.
Progress report!
>Pic related is coming along quickly enough that I figured I'd ask - what are your plans for the place?
>Solus being destroyed/eaten/etc. by ANYONE is going to be a loss condition. There is a way to alleviate that,but it's bundled in with a +600 Drawback. No Companions, no pets, no summons, no sun-based powers, and no in-universe allies. Everyone but you is dead, Solus is gone, and the Varelsi are everywhere. Anything you had to avoid their hostility is effectively moot. And they're getting stronger every day. Have fun.
>>47674918
>Um, what's this setting about?
You're dead. The afterlife is made of crickets. That's as far as I could understand, reading the book.
>>47674960
>every day
>no stars left
Phew, lucky they're not getting any stronger or anything like that, if they were I might be in trouble.
Also, totes joining the plant people and going around 'planting my seed'... if-you-know-what-I-mean.Seriously, gonna be growing a whole load of myself asexually. Gonna be an army of me!
>>47674948
>>47674928
Thanks, I try.
>>47674978
Sounds like my kind of setting. How's the protagonist?
>>47674994
It's an RPG setting, not a novel, so there's no protagonist.
>>47674994
That's not me, he has a nose. Here, let me help you.
>>47674982
>literal reading
Okay, I laughed. But seriously you might wanna keep an eye on those Skulks.
>spoiler
On the one hand, I'm half-tempted to clamp down on that to reinforce the whole 'alone in the dark' deal of the Drawback.
On the other hand, that is actually a rather clever workaround, and I'm getting a very fun mental image from it. Decisions, decisions.
>going Eldrid
Which puts you in the same faction as pic related.
>>47674918
You asked for this.
>>47675010
Serious answer then, will the drawback take away internal companions, like Symbiotes, Biju, Spirit's of Balance, and any other voices in my head?
After all this time I don't know what it'd be like to be the only voice rattling around up there.
>>47675041
I have not made a final decision on that yet, but I am leaning towards 'yes.'
>>47675011
wow this is a really long jump, how long did it take to make this?
>>47674918
Yeah, >>47674952
is right. He's befriended his literal murderer, someone who said straight up taht he hates Gentaro, someone who stabbed him in the back and stole from him, he fuckign
HE BEFRIENDED AND FELL IN LOVE WITH AN EMOTIONLESS BLOB OF COSMIC ENERGY
THAT'S WHAT NADESHIKO IS
you remember that SOLU stuff in the jump?
He /befriended that./
>>47675007
Yeah, well, this joke is wearing thin. Kudos for having the stones to google "noseless baby" by the way. I would have been too scared.
>>47675071
I actually googled Voldemort baby, but the homunculus is far too gross looking. Also that floof is adorable.
>>47675011
thanks anon
>>47675007
And here I thought your baby picture would have a face similar to Nicolas Cage... though if it were sans nose or not, I wouldn't know.
>>47675138
Hey man, that's not funny. I died for your sins, you know.
>>47675269
>>47673955
underwater colonies on the bottom of the ocean actually, so I guess both
>>47674016
>>47674121
Also was I the only one who bothered to show this to Archie?
Okay, so I've got some Eclipse Phase fever at the momentcompletely unrelated to a recent trip into the TQZand I have some pretty solid ideas for a Firewall-themed jump.
For those not in the know, Firewall is the vigilante conspiracy the PCs are assumed to be a part of (as the mechanism for why this eclectic bunch of screwballs are all together), but it's by no means compulsory for playing the Eclipse Phase RPG.
Firewall's job is to try to prevent threats to transhumanity as a whole, but from my experience the PCs usually get mixed up in other stuff going on in the setting as well (liberating Mars, fighting ego-thieves, treasure hunting etc.).
Jump structure would be insertion into a Firewall cell as either a drop in or one of its seven specialist roles (Router, Crow, Sentinel, Eraser etc. which equate to Leader, Researcher, Agent, and Clean-Up respectively, plus a few other roles).
You then build eight other members of the cell (and/or import companions).
Most of the perks I have so far are skill packages related to in-game skills or traits. I have a solid idea of a scenario and the drawbacks to include as well.
The problem is I'm not sure how to incorporate this into a broader Eclipse Phase jump. The issue is that without the structure of Firewall, EP's system is classless and presents a challenge to divide up into the usual array of "backgrounds" the way /jc/ is used to.
So I'm unsure whether I should:
1. Make the EP jump with Firewall as a second jump (ala DDS pt.1 & DDS pt.2)?
2. Make the EP jump with Firewall add-on?
3. Incorporate them both into the same jump (since they are the same setting after all)? Is is only an issue since I can imagine people wanting to jump EP without the added baggage of being a member of Firewall.
So I'm looking for input, ideas or suggestions, and apologies if someone else has already claimed the setting.
>>47675070
>He /befriended that./
HEY! I'll have you know that SOLU has feelings too man.Totally made sure she stuck around, but sorta gave her my newly made Quantum Switch as a focus for her existence. As long as she is observed in any way shape or form, she exists. The Kamen Rider club is awesome in that way.
And I may or may not have given the kids a Chekov's Gun to use much, much later.
Kamen Rider Nadeshiko's Quantum States is all kinds of marvellous bullshit from what I heard...no, I did not infiltrate the school as a female student who wants to be the best actress in the world. No I did not join the club to be their spymaster with laughable disguises that only the Club Members can see through. And no, I did not have a massive case of hero onii-san worship for my male identity in the Jump.
>pic related
I simply heard about this chick who showed up after I left and that she was posing as my sister who had been chasing after me. After my Ranma Jump, I've learned to stay away from such crazies.
>>47675288
You could do something like what Bloodborne did and let people choose one perk each tier to have discounts on.
>>47675288
If you think that Firewall would make things easier, I'm fine with that being the focus. There are other things to do in Eclipse Phase (I'd personally love a Gatecrasher option), but Firewall covers so much that it should still be a great showcase of the setting.
Shhhh Don't tell anyone I'm working on this Tophat will kill me
Couple builds before I call it quits for the night.
>Jump 32: Dark Sun
>The World, reversed (A great work betrayed. Regret and disappointment.)
>Age: 26
>Location: New Kurn (-100)
>Race: Human
>Identity: Apprentice (-1000)
It's worth paying the points to go to New Kurn. I'd rather gain the abilities of some sort of freaky glowing critter than try to be some ridiculous dragon. And I've got the time to invest, after all...
>Drawbacks: Ravenloft (+100)
This is not a pleasant place. That will not be a pleasant follow-up.
>Preserver (Free, Apprentice)
Ah, so I know the PROPER way to cast magic in this world... you know what, combine that with the plant-based biomancy I've got, and I might actually be able to make the world a (slightly) better place.
>The Way (Free, Apprentice)
Psionics as well? Oh, that will be entertaining. I bet that will grow rapidly as well, this isn't the first perk I've gotten that gives psionics, though it probably is the most flexible.
To be fair, this won't be a terribly entertaining decade. I'm sure I'll be going out and doing things, but I'll spend more of my time apprenticed to Oronis. But like I said... I want to make the world a better place, and the best way to do that is finding some way to get vegetation to take hold in the desert.
There will be rain on Arrakis... I mean Athas. Even if I have to return post-spark to make it happen.
>>47675332
>>47674940
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ApocalypseHow
>>47674960
automated von Neumann LoTs hunting down the Varelsi, mass-produced Alpha lanterns helping out on missions, Building and protecting some stellar nurseries, maybe stealing some stars from a microuniverse battery to help them get kicked off sooner.
>>47675070
speaking of Fourze is adapting the Fourze driver to accept Gaia memories instead of Astroswitches a good idea? I'm only a episode five of Fourze but I think Gaia memories are much cooler/better potential for armament. Also is Kamen Rider Fourze OOO Movie Taisen Mega Max one of the Canon movies because I want the villains driver from that movie. And I can totally imagine my Jumper stealing it before the villain can use it.
>Jump 33: Ravenloft
>Ten of Pentacles, reversed (The loss of reputation or inheritance.)
>Age: 22
>Location: Mordent
Ah, Victorian England again - wait, no, we're not in Kansas anymore, Toto.
>Identity: Drop-In
>Drawbacks: Scarred (+100), Holy (+200)
So not only are the monsters going to hate me, but it's going to be blatantly obvious that I'm a monster - no hiding it. Okay. We'll work with that.
>Iron Will (1200, Drop-In)
Not that it isn't already covered, but... it doesn't hurt.
>Mistwalker (900, Drop-In)
You know... it occurs to me that disappearing into the mists like that is actually a part of the normal vampire powerset in some settings.
>Monstrous (100)
A vampire? In Ravenloft? Say it ain't so, Joe!
>Spectacles of Clear Sight (0)
These should work especially nicely if I combine them with by stand-sight glasses.
I think this is going to be something a bit different, but I'm hardly going to go chaotic stupid - instead I'm going back to my roots with Hellsing here. A monster that hunts monsters. Of course there's no one holding my leash, and I need to be a bit careful to not lose myself in the hunt, so I'll need some side projects as well. You know, I remember a perk I took a while back to help me make magitech. Maybe I should look into that and see what fun I can create in this setting...
Jump 34: Dragonlance
>Six of Swords (Trusting in intelligence and intuition and setting off into the unknown. Leaving an untenable situation and charting a new course.)
>Era: Age of the Ogre (8500 PC)
>Location: Dragon Isles
>Species: Human
>Identity: Arcane (-50)
>Drawbacks: Pernicious Patronage (-300)
Who is this Morgion prick, and why does he have it out for me? No, seriously. I have an artifact that lets me talk to deities and he flat-out said he's out to make my life miserable for shits and giggles.
>Scenarios: Faith Up My Sleeve (+300, Divine only), 11th: Our Hero (+200), 40,000 Things I Hate About You (+400)
Oh I know EXACTLY what god I'm going to be pledging my allegiance to, for Faith Up My Sleeve...
>Alignment Choice (2050)
You never know when you might wake up on the wrong side of the bed, right?
>Artifactory (1650)
I'm going to be here for a very long time. I might as well spend my time wisely.
>Arcane Adept (Free, Arcane)
Basic spellcraft? Not a bad idea to get one's foot in the door.
>Tower Trained (1500, Arcane)
But formal training is always an important thing. Not even sure I want to be in one of the orders, but if I must, I'll go for the Order of the Red Robes. Neutrality is an unfortunate necessity.
>Hedgemage (1350, Arcane)
Of course, just because I have training doesn't mean I'm not looking for other ways.
>Archmage of High Sorcery (1050, Tower Trained)
Being able to brush off the more problematic issues with astrology, while still being able to use the helpful ones, is a great aid.
>Renegade Magecraft (750, Hedgemage)
And being able to get more return for my investment, spell-wise, is always a benefit.
>Acolyte (650)
Oh, channeling divine magic too, are we?I feel the warp overtaking me.
>Seeker (50)IT IS A GOOD PAIN.
>Items: Merch (Free), Texts (Free), Parts Parts and More Parts (0)
>>47675400
Every 600 point capstone you get gives you a discount on an item, and those will all be very useful: I get to learn how the canon is supposed to go, I get useful texts beside that as to the nature of Chaos and the concept of chaos itself, and replenishing source of parts to play with.
Now, see, this is where things get a bit interesting. Because on reflection... it seems that the Kender were created by Chaos. Why would Chaos do that? Well, Chaos has been locked up in a gray pokeball for a few thousand years, so I'm pretty sure that if I were in his shoes with people fighting over the damn pokeball but no one wanting to let him out, I'd be more than a little peeved too.
And why is everyone so pants-on-head retarded in Dragonlance? Because they literally SEALED AWAY AN ALIGNMENT. He's not just a deity, he's an integral part of life - when Chaos gets out, you get wild sorcery and mortals able to play with magic more easily. This propaganda about Chaos being nothing but a force of destruction is nothing but that - propaganda.
So screw this Chaos War stupidity. I'm going to find his pokeball and let him out as quickly as I can, and once I've done that and the gods eventually get exiled again, I'm going to bring him back by getting people to worship him. It's going to be a very, very long jump for me, but it's going to be very much worth it.
Well... either that, or I'll live to regret my mistakes. Carpe diem, eh?
>>47675288
So what's the over-under on at least one jumper trying to reverse engineer the Exsurgent virus to gain all the cool psi-epsilon powers without being turned into a puppet for the TITANs? Or even better, someone trying to reverse engineer the original virus the ETIs used to make the TITANs go rampant, so they can use it to become their own "stable" TITAN?
>>47674948
>>47674928
I don't get it. What is joke?
>>47675070
also 1.if we have the fully operational claws system does that mean we can use it to build the scorpion robot?
2. If we took claws system and didn't get the birth driver, can we have that as an add on to another driver?
Oh. I almost forgot the most important part.
You remember how I have a Casull revolver that can kill quite literally anything short of an omnipotent deity?
Yeah, that Mina bitch of a Mary Sue is getting her brains blown out, since I'll be around just long enough for her to pop up, and she is among the few who I will very happily erase the soul of.
Fuck retcons and lazy writing.
>>47675416
He said he had a picture of Justice when he was younger. Look behind Kid Flash in that image, what do you see?
>>47675439
Literally who?
>>47675355
Huh. Now I'm wondering if you used that Heal The World perk from Sugar Bowl, what would that actually do for Athas? And what if you used it in the Gray?
>>47675450
>Mina was a born of the joy of the combined gods when the world of Krynn was forged by Reorx during the Age of Starbirth. When born in the Age of Starbirth, only Paladine, Mishakal and Majere witnessed the arrival of the new god of light. However they knew that this would upset the Balance, so Paladine asked Majere to send her into a slumber and hide her away, rather than let this radiant being be destroyed.
Literally written into the setting by some hack of a writer in a Dragonlance novel series, had all the hallmarks of a Mary Sue, got the evil knights to all follow her, brought back the gods, and conquered the world.
You remember Kyp Durran, by chance? From what I'm seeing, she's measurably worse in Mary Sue-ness. Written by one of the people who joined the Dragonlance team in 2004.
Look, the whole setting is fucked. Letting Chaos loose is doing it a SERVICE. If Chaos destroys them, well, honestly? They're probably BETTER OFF.
>>47675442
...Oh. Brb gotta go commit Sudoku because i'm apparently the biggest idiot alive.
>>47675489
Now you see the reason for our responses.
>>47675484
Was looking at the wrong thing, the year is incorrect as she's been with TSR since the eighties, but otherwise... yeah. Ugh.
>>47675365
You can do it, and it won't be too bad, but it'll still be only the limbs affected...
I THINK it'll be canon but I gotta figure out where the fuck in the timeline it is
Like honestly
>>47675425
1. Yes
2. You can use them to do the CLAWS Sasori but you can't use them all on the same driver, one CLAWS weapon at a time for non-birth belts
since they're not ENTIRELY compatible with it
BIRTH was made specifically for the CLAWS so its able to carry them all, even at once as teh BIRTH DAY form shows
>>47675515
...ralizing that i made Neo-heisei so giant
that
i forgot half of what i wrote in there
oh fuck
>>47675515 >>47675566
1. There is going to be a timeline in the final version right? I am probably going to need that
2. If I take that with the tower scenario would it happen immediately or would I have time to steal/destroy foundation X before then?
3. the first night drawback counts towards time spent in the jump right?
>>47675552
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98AJUj-qxHI
>>47675566
I've noticed that other than OOO riders who have modular gimmicks have an ability to have their gimmicks at the ready when they need them despite the clear lack of pockets, is there going to be a way to do that is that a feature of the drivers, or should I use an inventory perk?
>>47673998
You, I like you.
>>47675408
Honestly, if a jumper wants to do that, I think they can go for it, but there's easier ways to get similar results in the first place.
Making their own tame TITAN? There's straight up AI-genesis and technokinesis from other places.
Psi-epsilon powers aren't that great compared to other kinds of psychic powers or magic that can be had elsewhere with less risk.
If they did get psi-epsilon powers through reverse engineering the exurgent virus or something, they wouldn't have the Jump-chan Guarantee™ that comes with spending cp on stuff, and remember you need a meat brain to use psi.
Plus if they can reverse-engineer the exurgent virus, I'm pretty sure they could have made something similar on their own anyway.
>>47675755
Well, you don't need a meat brain to use Exsurgent psi. But I'm not worried about someone trying to powergame with this. I'm amused by the idea of someone plugging evil alien cancer into their brain in an attempt to gain a power boost. There are so many ways that could end badly, and I want to see all of them.
>>47675484
Everything about Fifth Age is terrible, and I'm absolutely going to put the Greygem in my Warehouse just to keep the idiot ogres from breaking it.
I'm also going to slap all of them upside the heads and tell them no. Because seriously, guys.
>>47675609
Just assume that the drivers have a weird hammerspace, i can't get too technical but they can pull out their associated gimmick at will
>>47675876
okay I didn't want to wank that because it seemed like something that had to do with a genre necessity rather than something that was actually happening in Cannon, thank you for all your patience in answering my questions so far. Also please see>>47675582 (You)
204. Star Fox
Origin: Star Fox
Perks: Twin Lasers 2 (-100), Mechanic (-100), Warp Gates (-300), 3 Gold Rings (-400), Increase Fuel Gauge (-200)
Items: 2 Bombs, Wing Gyro, Time Bomb (-100)
Drawbacks: Are You Going To Listen To That Monkey? (+200)
I think my companions are done with the whole adventuring thing? I don't know. They can have their lives on the ships, and they'll help me, but they're not going to go out and do stuff anymore. They settle down the ships near the Animal Crossing Town and handle shit for themselves and I'm the one who goes off and does stuff. Which I guess works out. I've specced in traveling and had a mission for Dragonlance, and they just got bored eventually and decided to do what they could for our people. The Ships have changed so much over the millenia spent on Krynn that they're unrecognizable from the start. Isaac never stopped trying to improve the things and had access to samples of tech from Steven Universe to DC and Marvel, including a Green Lantern Battery and Ring. Throw in Asriel's space warping and dozens of different magics and suddenly everything that follows us between jumps is a monster of supertech and sorcery.
And they upgraded my Arwing in exchange for whatever bits I can bring them. Slippy is doing his best to keep up, and Starwolf is about 10% more cyborg every time we fight them. I think I'll spend the next few jumps improving this thing. There's not much of a story here, besides that everything followed it's best route in the games because then everything gets a happy ending. There wasn't a need to change anything, besides a new incredibly superfluous character.
>>47674040
>sabotaging any efforts to stop the meteor that don't involve her because of her hero complex.
Wait really? That's dumb.
So, I'm thinking about throwing together a Mortal Hero (Exalted) Gauntlet. How would jumpers respond?
>>47676346
I think you'd need to talk to Babylon to make sure you don't step on each others toes, other than that... Gauntlets are a bit... meh. I know they can be good but... I guess they're a bit too restricting compared to the normal rather freeform nature of jumps.
>>47676346
Only if the reward is "you've impressed an Exaltation shard by facing the dangers of Creation without your powers, you're Exalted now". Because otherwise there's no way in hell I'm accepting the risk of going to that place as a gauntlet. I know, you carry on even if you die and fail a gauntlet. Creation has many worse fates than death.
>>47676402
Ok, but you don't speak for everyone, and I'd love the chance to be a heroic mortal in Exalted.
>>47676378
Ah, I didn't know that there was even anyone doing anything Exalted on JC. I'll wait until I can speak with him before posting anything, but I mostly wanted to get a feel for how people would react to some of my ideas. It would be Hard Mode to begin with and only get more extreme as you took drawbacks
>>47676402
Nope. I understand the concerns you have, and agree with them, but it ain't going to be that easy, otherwise everyone in Creation would need to Exalt, as all of them have undergone that challenge before. Nah, I was thinking that the changes to you in the Gauntlet are now a part of your base, Body Mod, form if you make it through the trails and tribulations of Creation during the Age of Sarrows. Though I might have to change the way that is worded a few times before I'm satisfied with the way it works out. How does that sound though?
Again I'm just spitballing the idea here.
>>47676475
He asked how I would respond. I responded. I never claimed to speak for the entire community.
>>47676478
Well, that is pretty nice, but still not enough for me to chance it. You should make the gauntlet, other people seem to be down for it, but I don't think I'll jump it.
>>47676478
>Changes are now part of your body mod
No.
>>47676478
I think you'll need to find another idea. Adding your own stuff to the body mod thing seriously impacts all the jumps that reduce you to Body Mod level as part of the jump or as a drawback. Look at some of the other gauntlet's (Mostly LLTQ really) for ideas on what you should give as rewards and keep in mind that Gauntlet's have zero risk, so the rewards should be similarly low to match that lack of risk.
>>47676526
Yes.
>>47676561
No.
>>47676571
Yes
>>47676586
Maybe?
>>47676589
Can you repeat the question?
>>47676596
Possibly.
>>47676615
Yes.The cycle never ends. NEVER ENDS.
>>47676478
>changes to you in the Gauntlet are now a part of your base, Body Mod
Garbage idea. Useless powerwankery. Just give an Exalted form as an alt form, there's no reason to special snowflake this.
Look at FO and look how well it's special snowflake, muh setting, mechanics were received.
>>47675365
>I'm only a episode five of Fourze but I think Gaia memories are much cooler/better potential for armament.
Gaia Memories are cool, don't get me wrong, but Fourze Switches are just on another level. Let me put it this way:
- Think of ANY piece of technology. You can make that a switch.
- How about ANY celestial body? Yup, you can make that a switch.
- Maybe celestial phenomena? No problem, switch ahoy!
- Laws of Physics? Read above.
These Switches fuck around with the Laws of Conservation of Energy and Mass in ways that are just retarded. I mean, there's a Medic Switch, it allows Fourze to get a First Aid module that has a cure for whatever already synthesized and ready for safe use in humans! What kind of bullshit is that?!
So yeah. That's what Cosmic Switches can do.
The Gaia Memories basically collapse knowledge into a solid form.
The Core Medals take concepts and play with them.
The Cosmic Switches use the power of friendship to create stuff.
It's a matter of what you want to do and what you're most comfortable with. I thought I wanted to use the Gaia Memories, but then I realized that the Cosmic Switches were more my speed.
>>47676544
Basically no Jumps reduce you down to base Body Mod, though. They reduce you down to human - which means Pokemon's 100 CP Captain America perk. The only one which will really be affected is LoT, and I'm OK taking it down a notch.
>>47676646
More than LoT reduces you down to Body Mod as a mechanic or drawback. And writing a perk into your jump because you want to spite another is poor form and a bad precedent.
>>47676646
Yeah no, I'm not really keen on the body mod permanent alteration idea either. Shit's 2meta.
>>47676646
Plenty of power seal drawbacks have been clarified by jump makers to reduce you to Bodymod. And no, if a drawback reduced you to human you'd also lose what you got in Pokemon.
>>47676646
>The only one which will really be affected is LoT, and I'm OK taking it down a notch.
So you're assmad about LoT and you want to take a swing at it? Really? That's incredibly petty.
>>47676596
You're not the boss of me now!
>>47676667
Name one that uses "Body Mod" rather than "all your powers" or something similar. Nobody uses Body Mod because Body Mod gives you super speed, super endurance, and super senses.
>>47676689
Pokemon's 100 CP perk gives you a peak human. So no, you wouldn't lose it unless a jump explicitly drops you to body mod.
>>47676712
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Za8HggalY
>>47676646
Body Mod is the base for all subsequent alt forms, though. So if you were to make something like that all those drawbacks that reduce you down to human form would still leave you exalted.
Its literally shitting on tons of jumps and drawbacks. It's way too meta.
>>47676729
And even then, considering that Body Mod comes after Pokemon, you might not lose it depending on how you interpret things.
>>47676729
That requires the drawback specifically state it reduces you to human levels, instead of just saying it removes anything you got from out of the jump you are currently in. If it's the latter or some variation of it, then yes, you do lose Pokemon stuff. Tough luck.
>>47676722
The default assumption in guantlets is you retain body mod purchases unless clarified otherwise.
And you're missing the point-making a jump specifically to shit on one of the oldest mechanics in the chain is really not a good reason to make a jump at all.
>>47676712
Someone should make a Nazca jump so the entire drop-in tree can be a reference to Malcolm in the Middle.
>>47676544
>>47676688
>>47676689
I see your point, however at the Mortal Hero level of Exalted you're not getting anything that the Body Mod can't provide, aside from two exceptions that I can think of. Supernatural Martial Arts and Sorcery, both of which need you do some serious shit to get to, being the capstones of humanities ability. Furthermore said abilities are sealed at the Terrestrial level, which while high doesn't do much more that make you hit harder, more accurately, and grants minor exotic effects like 'Burns Creatures of Darkness'. All of the effects are minor at best outside Creation, where Essence is far greater. This on top of the fact that there are no Perfects in the Terrestial level, that I know of, so I'm avoiding that foolishness.
>>47676636
Again, just spitballing here. There is no need for calling an idea 'Power Wanking' and then immediately turn to 'Get an Exaltation!'. That's not a good precedent.
>>47676748
Again no Exalting, it's a Mortal Hero gauntlet with no option of Exaltation. That's the point. The drawbacks in question reduce you to a 'normal human' of the Jump, usually, and even then they do it by the 'all perks shut down' route instead of anything else, in which case you are the person from before the Body Mod.
>>47676835
No need to get argumentative, this is currently a completely theoretical Gauntlet.
>>47676889
You asked for feedback and you're getting it. Offering up a reward that buffs Body Mod is a bad idea. It screws with tons of other jumps, and the suggestion that you're doing it merely to spite LoT puts people off.
>>47676889
Just don't put that mechanic in, trust me in that it'll make this whole deal so much easier. Or you can keep trying to force it but hopefully the entirely negative reaction so far shows that won't work. The more you force it, the more opposed people will be and eventually they'll oppose the entire jump on principle.
>>47676905
>>47676909
Thanks for the honest feedback.
Hrm, if I do change it I'm going to have to think of a different rewards then. Any ideas, aside from Exaltation?
>>47676977
...Just terrestrial martial arts and sorcery? I mean, that's still pretty good for a gauntlet.
Also. Clear it with Babylon before you make anything.
>>47676977
Seconding this: >>47677011
>>47676977
A Manse to call your own?
Guild-like aptitude at negotiation?
Enhanced proficiency at learning supernatural martial arts in the future?
A lump of one of the magical materials?
>>47676977
LLTQ gave you a companion and an aura of charisma. Gauntlets do not need to offer world shaking rewards. Just give some nice treats for making it through.
>>47677028
You reward is: A Lump!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlrFixkakaA
>>47675332
I'm saddened that I cannot find an English translation of this anywhere.
>>47677028
A manse and/or magical material would be awesome. That stuff has so many applications.
>>47677011
>>47677025
Meh. Just do what Babylon did and get "permission" from IRC. You don't really need to get thread permission.
Just make it good and people will accept anything you could do.
>>47677073
Anon. Fear no more. For I have the entire series fully translated. Let me enlighten you.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxiNqbCozjB-ODRjZHN6ejJwZW8
Enjoy...pls let me know if anything fugged up on my end. I'm a little more than mildly tipsy at the moment. So I'm confused if this is the full series or just the 3rd book
>>47677097
Nah, Babylon does the opposite. Anytime the IRC disagrees with him he sets the thread on one of them.
>>47676819
Those remove Body Mod as well, so it's still not an issue.
>>47677119
Bless you oh mightiest of all dragons. Sadly, your link is only for the third book.
>>47677097
I can't imagine you're trying to do anything but start shit, but no. That's total, utter bullshit. I've seen cattle farms with less bullshit than your posts. There's a reason why jumps are peer reviewed in thread before getting on the drive, rather than the chat.
>>47674016
>whynotboth?
>>47676977
No prob on the clearing it with Babylon. That's just what can be gotten though.
Also why is it that Mantra (Asura's Wrath), Chakra (Naruto), and Shinso (Tower of God) can all carry over, as a new law of the multiverse, but upgrading the body mod got that much flak?
>>47677028
These are all good, but they feel like something you should be able to get through CP.
>>47677037
Is LLTQ the benchmark for a good Gauntlet? I see the others have greater and more wide sweeping rewards and they aren't referenced like LLTQ has been.
Manopoly grants infinite money and an built in exchange system. SOMA grants it's tech trees, all of them. Darkest Dungeon grants the Manor, the Ancestor, and/or the ability to combine four companions to one companion slot. Halo grants a forerunner combat skin. Jumanji nets you the game itself.
All of this leans Gauntlets towards the high-risk high-reward type thing.
>>47677097
Nah, I have a preference with checking in on the views of the people who review the final product. Peer review is nice and all, but /jc is where I want to see my Jumpchains be run on.
>>47677160
FUG
I'll fix it.
Just gib me a moment for my drunk ass to upload the proper stuff.
>>47675332
I found it! The first volume, in English, is here and interesting as fuck! Now we just need volume 2.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwrtJInb6bl0ZkFoWks1dFBUTVU/view
>>47677199
>he ability to combine four companions to one companion slot
Wait, what? How the flying fuck did this get through? Are all the companion rules completely disregarded by now?
>>47677199
Because those jumps came with those laws, and the creators of those jumps chose it.
Modifying Body Mod is just shitting on a creation that isn't yours, which isn't kosher. it isn't your creation, you shouldn't be messing with it.
Quick question:
> In addition to the free starting powers, you may also select 3 Force powers from the list that are 200cp or below.
That above is from the Star Wars: Clone Wars Jump and it's what introduces the Force Powers, but I can't quite understand what it's saying. I'm a little sleepy, sue me.
Anyways, does it mean I can ONLY select 3 powers that are 200cp or below, or I can select 3 powers 200 cp and below that are free like the starting powers?
>>47677181
I want this to be a sitcom.
>>47677199
LLTQ, Shivers and Robot Unicorn Attack; the latter 2 just don't get talked about as much because they don't come with a cute pink girl companion as a reward.
>>47677246
Shivers can come with a cute dead girl companion, and Robot Unicorn Attack can come with a cute yandere death robot companion.
>>47677199
Monopoly doesn't grant infinite money. SOMA's tech not only isn't that impressive, the only thing you get from the actual reward is a virtual sim you can't take out of the warehouse. Darkest Dungeon is Clover's, so of course it's broken to all hell and has stuff snuck through, Halo is barely even considered usable, given we had an actual jump made for it and umanji just gets you a low power boardgame. None of these, save Darkest Dungeon perhaps, are 'high reward' and all of them are 'zero risk' because gauntlets are inherently without risk. You cannot die in them. You either win and get the reward or don't win and move on to new jumps.
>>47677245
I kind of wonder who would win, Norman is a gym leader.
>>47677199
Feels more and more like you're just trying to sneak in an Exalted jump of your own rather then making a very limited gauntlet.
>>47677199
>Mantra, Chakra and Shinso
Honestly, that's a damn good question. Muyo had some funny ideas about putting his fanwank into canon, which I kind of understood at the time and later regretted. I think Shinso is just a big oversight on the jumpmaker's part because otherwise he's pretty reasonable about this sort of thing. Chakra at least is kind of like Nasu magic in that nothing short of fiat would let it keep working outside it.
>>47677225
There's something similar in Darkstalkers, FF14 and Light of Terra re: the Choirs.
There's no hard ruling but-all of them seem to emphasise these companions have a preexisting relationship with each other so. Yeah, I dunno either. By default, 1 companion=1 companion as far as I know.
>>47677243
The latter.
>>47677225
You can only do it once, but yeah. Clover loves sneaking in broken stuff and god help you if you point it out or it'll shit the thread up with chants of "oh no you're one of those NERFERS, aren't you" or something.
>>47677288
No, apparently this lets you combine preexisting companions into a group. Flat out just squeeze 4 people into one slot where they took up 4 beforehand. What's next, extra cp?
>>47674743
Flamio, my good bugman.Moths seem thematic here...
>>47677160
>>47677216
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxiNqbCozjB-SGdHb3BZanpTV0U
I GOT IT
Anyone interested in the jump should look this over if you want.
It won't take long.
>>47677302
Jesus fucking christ. The least he could do is not be some sort of fucking coward about it.
>>47677312
>https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxiNqbCozjB-SGdHb3BZanpTV0U
Thanks so much.
>>47677306
...well.
Well, shit.
>>47677302
I genuinely think there's no malice or agenda behind it, he's just...well, treating it like making a CYOA rather than the vague idea of what a proper jump should be like that's coalesced out of convention and precedent more than anything over several threads.
You're not wrong about The Anons Who Cried NERFERS, though. Those guys are dicks. Fucking sucks to have no way to communicate without being shouted over by the whiners, especially when I agree with them sometimes on what should be done but out of completely different reasoning.
>>47677246
>>47677263
Why is Shivers so based?
>doesn't take your powers away
>lets you turn it into a Jump
>cute ghost girl companion
>infinitely large trophy room
>>47675746
Gotta count them till I sleep.
>>47677360
Because you apparently enjoy being tormented by Jumper-strength Aztec demons, I guess?
>>47675746
I wonder how Mareeps feels about their final evolution being some sort of weird giraffe-kangaroo hybrid thing.
>>47677302
It's kinda stupid but means you're effectively capping their growth as individuals. Now if you want moronic power grabs by Clover just look at Razzle Dazzle, like the whole thing. I'm honestly annoyed it's even on the drive because it's such a blatant and tasteless power grab. Didn't even have the decency to find a setting to wrap it in.
>>47677237
Ah, I see. So importing Motonic Physics would be okay?
>>47677246
So, the Beenchmarks of good Gauntlets are the minority that people feel Gauntlets should be more like.
>>47677265
Good points, however the high risk I was talking about was a high actual failure rate.
>>47677287
Er, I've already said that I'll wait for Babylon's permission so I'm ironing it out if I get said permission.. It's mostly about being a Mortal Hero in Creation, which is to say your life expectancy isn't very high when taking into account things like drop bears, Tyrant Lizards, or the freaking Exalts running around.
I thought Gauntlet's were suppose to be so challenging that without the safety net of 'Don't worry it doesn't end your Chain' no one would take it. Now it seems kinda like a very minor power grab, with a few truly challenging jumps usually ignored. That is merely my opinion.
>>47677378
I think they're Mayan.
205. Swat Kats
Origin: Drop-In, Age: 28, Keep Current Form
Items: Origin Outfit, Scrapyard (-200), Hyperspace Module (-300), Orb Design Plans (-800)
Drawbacks: Aw Crud, Loser (+100), The ENFORCERS Can Handle This!!! (+200)
I'll be playing the metal guitar myself, thanks. I didn't go to Sabaton for nothing. That's most of what I'm doing this jump, actually. Teleporting places and playing the guitar during the weekly Swat Kats fights, probably with a camcorder pointed at me to record everything. I'm going to sell it as "Weirdo Alien Plays Guitar: Giant Monster Fights Edition". And of course, no one takes my art seriously. The Enforcers just go on and on about how I'm "getting in the way" and how they'll arrest me for getting in the way of their duties. No jail can hold art, man.
The orb design is more about the AI being a one-sphere singularity than anything. I plan on leaving it with Isaac to experiment on how he chooses.
I'll only occasionally join in the whole plane fighting business, and then only if I screw something up and need to make amends. Which admittedly happens a lot when someone freaks out about you blasting sick riffs from their wing, being held on by nothing but hope and chakra.
>>47677281
Eh, I would say Maxie and Archie, because they're villain team leaders. Hmm, I can't remember, do Normal-types have a weakness to Fire or Water?
>>47677406
I...guess?
Yeah.
I mean, it's funny when you put it like that but those are the ones people seem to have anything positive to say about, when they remember they exist at all.
I guess Light of Terra and Golden Sky Stories have gauntlet-like conditions too?
>>47677417
To quote another anon, whatever.
Hey I was wondering what happens to to the vehicle, and crew from LoT DLC 2 a day at the races
>>47675332
Flamio, my good dragonman.
>>47677312
Wow... ummm... Holy shit. That turned a lot darker and more philosophical than I was expecting towards the end.
Ultra jazzed about the Jump though. I'm looking forward to seeing it.
>>47677562
Well it means they're just going to drain out all your life force rather than flaying you alive.
>>47677579
Flamioing the countryside
Flamioing the peasants
Flamioing all the peoples
And their thatched-roof cottages!
>>47676478
>>47676889
All of this sounds like good reasons to not take the gauntlet. Ever.
>>47677199
Why is it being shit on when other things exist? For one those things don't negatively impact you, and go to explain how you can continue using those abilities in future jumps with a lack of metaphysics. Meanwhile,
> changes to you in the Gauntlet are now a part of your base, Body Mod, form
is more of a punishment considering all the potential BAD THINGS THAT CAN/WILL HAPPEN TO YOU in Exalted that are now a permanent part of your base, is what makes people want to smack you in the head with words. Shinsoo, Chakra, Mantra? Energy sources that exist and your biology can manipulate them without overmuch change. Being mutated into a flesh abomination/hivemind/pick your example. There is a distinct difference between these things.
>>47677312
So what is this actually about, and why should we spend time reading it?
>>47677312
bretty gud
>>47677561
>>do Normal-types have a weakness to Fire or Water?
Nope, not unless they're Normal/something else. But there's not many dual-types with Normal as one of them. Normal takes 2x damage from Fighting and is Immune to Ghost.
If I was a betting man, I'd put my money on Norman winning. It would be a pretty straight-forward brawl, depending on the teams involved, but Normal-types would have a better chance of knowing some devastating Electrical, Grass, or Water-type move. That said, all it would take would be a few good Fighting moves to roll Norman's team. His choices are mostly slower. Tougher and more powerful, but slower.
>>47677643It's about love and learning that sometimes what you're willing to become to hang onto it is exactly what will destroy it.Plus some really kick ass fight scenes.
I really hope there's a "Rage = Power" perk in the Jump.
>>47677561
Normal Types don't really have a weakness to anything except Fighting. They're very baseline. That's why they're called Normal.
I'm a little stumped on the Sailor Moon Jump, so I guess I'm asking for what other Jumpers who went through it did.
Honestly speaking, it kinda seems a little too narrow to me, but I don't really want to set my mind in stone until I have an idea of what others accomplished in it.
>>47677643
Essentially what this >>47677733
Anon said in addition to a nice art style and design.
A rather bloody series for such a cutesy design at times. Reminds me of Bones at points with its style when it comes to the non-human characters.And yes there will be a rage equals power perk.
>>47677643
Oh I see. You were thinking that I meant the reward as a negative thing. No, it was meant to be a reward, granting your Body Mod body a slight upgrade. More in the way of having your Body Mod adhere to the five dot system, with the ranks bought all those years ago being upgraded through purchases made in the Gauntlet. I may have just been too vague in my terminology.
However the negative response to it has left me feeling that I may have to leave it out, meaning I'll have to come up with another reward.
>>47676068
She literally blew up the machine that could stop the meteor because "Hurr what if alternate dimensions!?", then proceeded to put in place her plan which failed fucking utterly. The only reason everyone didn't die was because of you.
>>47677835
>However the negative response to it has left me feeling that I may have to leave it out, meaning I'll have to come up with another reward.
Yeah, gonna have to echo what's been said elsewhere in the thread. Messing with body mod as a reward is a bad call. There's plenty of other things you can do as a reward for running an Exalt gauntlet.
>>47677972
I'm open to suggestions. I have even considered some of the options that have been tossed around, if you would provide a different option I'll take it under consideration.
>>47675288
If you're going to do anything Eclipse Phase, do it right and make it a general EP jump instead of forcing us into Firewall.
>>47678034
Essence? I know it does some kind of cool shit like automatic successes and letting you take down entire groups of enemies even at one dot.
>>47678280
Actually you need abilities called Charms to do that with Essence; by itself it's simply an incredibly powerful form of spiritual energy. A Heroic Mortal does /not/ have access to the kind of charms that let you achieve automatic successes and wipe out groups of enemies.
>>47675288
It would be a monumental task, but Firewall as DLC a la LoT would be dope.
Transhumanism, ho!
>>47677388
It makes me want an icecream sunday.
206. Ace Combat
Location: Yuktobania
Age: 29, Origin: Soldier
Perks: Basic Flight Training, Missile Surplus, Comm Chatter, Running Circles, Targeting Algorithm (-100), Don't Need A Team (-100), Radar Maestro (-150), Missile Massacre (-300), Demon Lord (-300)
Items: Hangar, Flight Suit, All Direction Multi-purpose Missile (-150)
Drawbacks: Dancing With Angels (+100)
You know what really fucks with radar? Radio wave elementals shaped like dragons. You know what fucks with people? Suddenly becoming a dragon at mach 4. You know what fucks with everything? Omega Weather Control. I mostly use the last one to knock missiles out of the sky.
I am good in the sky. The sky is a happy place for me. I'm reforging my plane into a suit of dragon armor and becoming a missile dragon, and nothing can stop me. Mostly because of FISS 5, but also because I've been to Strike Witches already and dragons don't need to worry about pantsu. I mean, I might wear the pantsu anyway, but I doubt it will do much other than raise morale. The only real problem here, besides the fact that nerds keep trying to name Smaug, is the superweapons. Those fucking hurt, so I have to use illusions to stay safe when those are around. The Yuktobian Dragon squadron will go down as one of the greatest in the world.
If I didn't have all those perks that make people underestimate and not care about me, it could actually happen.
The heavens lost property dub is painful like actual physical pain.
>>47678034
Um, celestial wine or a mini games of divinity? Miniature kits of the various Incarnae, Primordials, Yozi? A dinosaur that pisses heroin? The ability to tell a bad joke that will propagate itself across the world and into various comic backdrops of the setting? The knowledge of what the Shining Answer is? Truth behind why least gods love cinnamon toast crunch? A 3rd edition of exalted that makes you actually want to play it?
Lunno man, coming up with stuff not counting exalts is hard.
>>47676748
>Body Mod is the base for all subsequent alt forms, though
God I fucking hope not, or else all my alt forms are male whereas I typically run around as, you know, not.
>>47678479
Shit wrong board. though question jumpers when you go to an anime universe what voices do you assume the mains are using sub? dub? the voices you imagined reading the manga/ln
>>47678280
Essence, as >>47678298 said, is very limited unless you have the ability to use it, an innate talent often called Charms is the most common expression of that. Mortal Heroes have a limited access to the Charms needed, Terrestrial level Supernatural Martial Arts, and the system of Sorcery, AKA messing with the fundamental force to get a direct result.
Sorcery has a hefty price tag on it as you have to sacrifice fundamental things like love, hate, or things that motivate you just to gain access to them.
Supernatural Martial Arts are the easiest way to gain access to proper charms but they make a high demand on the users body. Almost all of them take decades to learn.
Mortal Heroes can be awesome by the normal human standards, up to Essence 3 before they explode into a ghost or a god of something minor, like that sword over there... for reasons.
>>4767849
I actually got a good chuckle out of the funny ones and the serious ones are kinda cool. Though I'd avoid the shit out anything even like a Game of Divinity, that shits so addicting that the God of Being Perfect is ignoring Creation for it.
>>47678298
I must be misremembering, but I thought that Essence gave you a minimum of 1 success per dot on a roll, added to your size for mass field battles, and the like even without Charms.
>>47678534
Think of Body Mod as an archetype that that influences particular forms.
Endowment mentions that it has particular manifestations depending on the sex of the body. I would assume that its flexibility, as such, extends to whatever form you're currently in.
Similarly, Shape and Appeal make mention to specific anatomic bits that may not make sense on certain forms. It's not unreasonable to assume, then, that the analogue for those bits on your currently assumed form are similarly buffed.
>>47678565
Ah, all of those are features of being an Exalt, I believe. Mortal Heroes are much less than that, needing to fight the system as it to gain any traction. A Mortal Hero can't use Essence unless he undergoes serious training or gets a very particular affliction from what amounts to leaping into the Warp (40k).
Maybe I could make the reward the ability to Combo, streamlining technique/perk/energy/etc into a more efficient whole.
>>47678535
Has a flashback to when I took the FROM OUTER SPACE drawback in Gundam After Colony.
Make it stop! Please make it stop!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtI0Aal3C6w
>>47678632
Or maybe you could stop trying to offer these broad, powerful abilities and go for something on a smaller scale? Like some of the stuff that has been suggested already?
>>47677773
I took the entire Villain's perk tree and also Discordia Cannon.
Miracle Romance, The Thing About Miniskirts, and Tempus Fugit.
The story is that Sailor Eris was once an actual Sailor Scout/Princess/Whatever, but dove into researching the Negaverse as a means to fight it, went to far, yaddayadda, do not stare too far into the darkness or it will stare back, etc, etc. She is now a villain who wants to bring the others to her side with her new wealth of corruption-based perks, particularly the moon princess, and Sailor Saturn is very interested in preventing this, and also why the fuck are all these villains trying to snap pictures of me in my pantsu. I ONLY WANT PICTURES OF USAGI'S PANTSU. Fuck.
Because of how it's worded, I ruled that Discordia Castle (the source of the Discordia Cannon) follows me into each new jump. So, y'know, there's a bullshit anime castle made of magic crystals orbiting planet Eris in every jump I go to. Which is kindof neat and would be mildly useful if it weren't on the edge of the fucking solar system.
There's probably some crap stored up there that I've forgotten about.
S'bout it?
>>47678535
Whatever voices I heard when I watched it.
So, usually the dub. Even in cases where I've watched both sub and dub, the dub voices usually stick out more in my mind, since I wasn't spending most of every episode reading.
I honestly can't remember many sub voices.Except for Lucky Star's.
Bokurano Jump when?
>>47678565
Nope. Are you sure you're not thinking of Excellancies? And those are merely "ordinary" success, effectively a quantification of you did X so good, the probability of you succeeding at it is rated at Y. Not "perfect" effects, which only usually happen through Charms and are much more expensive.
>>47678498
>Third Edition
So-Devil Tigers are back, the combat system's been thrown in the trash and high Essence charms are stated out again?
Yes, I am salty. I will never complain about perceived nerfs in Jumpchain, but holy shit I am fuckmad the devs apparently decided to do away with high Essence shenanigans. It's like they didn't think that's what drew me to the setting in the first place. It's like they think I'm not going to write up my own sourcebook for becoming a Devil-Tiger and then playing a neo-Primordial solely out of spite.
>>47678565
Nope. Essence by itself does absolutely nothing. It's just that you use it to fuel charms/spells/artifacts.
Not sure where you're getting those abilities, Exalts don't even get those without spending a whole bunch on excellencies for the successes and specific charms for the extra size... Unless it's a First Edition thing, dunno, never looked at that.
>>47678704
Rule 1?
>>47678669
Brainstorming mostly.
The risk of failing this Gauntlet is insanely high, if treated like an actual obstruction instead of just another chapter of the 'I Won' chronicles, and I feel the reward should be proportional to the amount of crap you go through to get it. And I am considering the other options, as I have stated for the last couple of hours, however I myself have ideas so I toss them out as I have them.
Again though this is completely theoretical until I get Babylon Anon's permission, so don't sweat so much.
>>47678801
Once again, the risk is irrelevant. Even if you fail, you lose nothing. You either gain a incredible reward or continue on having lost nothing in the process. You've constantly ignored this fact while continuing to try and push for more power.
>>47678834
Normal Jumps don't have any risk either, though. At least, none that people actually care about.
>>47678884
>>47678884
That's your opinion. If you ignore the danger in jumps, that's your choice. Gauntlets lacking any risk is fact, if you die in one your chain does not end and you continue on.
>>47678801
Is it that insanely high? I mean, unless you go looking to fight exalts, you're unlikely to meet even a dragon-blooded. Spirits are pretty dangerous for a mortal, but still...
>>47678909
It's literally impossible to die in most Jumps once you're past Jump 100 or so.
Question about making jumps. What do you use to make them? How do you make them? What's your preferred style? How do you accomplish it? Do you like making imaged jumps, or is text better for you?I just want advice pls no bully
>>47678934
>It's literally impossible to not stir shit up with this argument
FTFY
>>47678934
So what? Jumps aren't made and balanced on the assumption you've done all 600 other jumps, so why does it even matter to this argument how strong people can get after 100?
>>47678937
A computer.
I wish I had a computer...
>>47678934
>muh 3 jumps to omnipotence
>muh pointless to jump
>muh style is how everyone plays
>muh suption
Nah.
>>47678884
>>47678934
Frankly with that attitude you shouldn't be making jumps at all.
>>47678967
The point is that there's exactly the same risk to taking a Gauntlet as there is to taking a normal Jump for most Jumpers. More, because Gauntlets have mandatory drawbacks.
>>47678934
Oh find me in the alps, don't tell me you're that guy who made Coiling Dragon too.
>>47678884
>>47678934
>>47678991
Come on, guys. You're going to bait Anti-Red into coming out and bitching about how it's better than being low power all the time or something stupid.
>>47678834
I haven't pushed for more power. My ideas are merely from a different perspective, and I understand that you disagree with that perspective. When I asked about the negative response to the upgraded Body Mod the posters gave their reasons and I have tabled the issue as I brainstorm. Your criticism is what is telling me when I'm wrong in something, so thank you for that.
>>47678929
Well the wildlife in 98% of the world is better than the average human, mortal weapons able to deal with said wildlife are in short supply and use a limited resource, there are multiple League of Shadows knockoffs, some of those League of Shadows knockoffs have Exalted/Godly/Spirit/etc backing, the climate in the place you start in can kill you in three out of five locations, Mortal practitioners of Supernatural Martial Arts are often pricks willing to kill you for a slight, etc. It's a very dangerous place where the average Joe lives thirty to thirty-five years, depending with only people with guardians growing to old age on average. As the average Mortal Hero you can be killed by a crowd of people with pitchforks and no training, so yeah.
>>47679016
Again, no. Any jump has some varying level of risk to someone straight out of pokemon, which is what all jumps are ostensibly built for. The fact that you don't find any risk in any jump after jumping for thousands of years is completely irrelevant.
And funnily enough, no, even by your own retarded reasoning, a Gauntlet still has less risk because there is no way to end your chain in one outside of willingly taking a drawback that does so. Even a idiot like yourself acknowledged that jumps have some risk for some jumpers. Of course, since your reasoning is so astoundingly stupid, we don't need to say that and can just tell you your being a gargantuan bellend.
>>47679062
Stop being a pussy and speak your mind. Don't let one shitposter dictate what people talk about, or don't.
Besides, I'm cautiously hopeful the mods finally permabanned him.
But I digress, I don't like the cut of this guy's jib and based on that regardless of my feelings on a Heroic Mortal gauntlet I damn well don't want to jump one made by him.
>>47678937
Type the out in my text processor of choice, save to pdf with freeware stuff.
As for how I make them... In the few days I get hit by inspiration between weeks of writer's block. Mostly a flurry of typing.
Preferred style... whatever works for the jump. I like the 100/200/400/600 spread for perk trees.Even through only one of mine uses it.
Text is better for me, I would fuck up imaging. Also, would be hard to fit everything if the layout got too fancy.
>>47679078
>different perspective
Yes, more power. Everyone of your suggestions so far has been something that altered or affected integral parts of jumpchain or had affects across every perk or ability you had. And everyone else has offered things both actually related to the setting as well as much more reasonable for a gauntlet reward.
>>47679082
It's totally relevant, because Jumpchain is the risk-free omnipotence CYOA. So why pretend there's an actual risk involved in losing when you can't lose in a normal Jump?
>>47679118
And here's our cue to ignore you henceforth. Bye bye.
>>47679093
Do you prefer grouping things by origin or by discount tier? Or just 'meh' and go with however it ends up being written like me?
>>47678608
I like how you assumed I had an endowment build.
>>47679118
>Jumpchain is the risk-free omnipotence CYOA
This sentence is retarded. You're retarded. It doesn't have to be. People play the way they want, and not everyone plays like that.
The fact that you can't separate your opinion from objective facts makes me agree with the guys who don't want you to make the jump, because by that logic you see nothing wrong with proposing wiping your ass with the Shinma, making SWLIHN or waifu or Jump-Chan personally giving you a magic sword that always breaks through all kinds of Perfect Defences as rewards.
>>47679138
I just go 'meh' really. Ends up being grouped by origin most of the time, as that's what I find the easiest to keep track of them while writing.
>>47679118
Ooh! Ooh, I know! Why don't you include DLC that lets you give the Neverborn true death, that makes it so their reincarnation is totally grateful to you and swear eternal loyalty? A customisation table for your very own harem of Primordial waifus!
Or what if you just handed out completely mastered Sidereal Martial Arts for 100 CP apiece, 3 purchases free for drop-In? It's not like they're THAT powerful amirite?
Or what if you just gave the option to BE the Unconquered Sun instead of a lowly mortal? Or hell, a surviving Primordial?
Heck, you know what would be crazy? What if you could be the only being in Creation with ESSENCE 11? Wouldn't that be cuhrahzee???!
/sarcasm
>>47678608
>In my opinion.
Not everyone runs bodymod like you do.
Why are we even talking about this? No way in hell Babs gives permission to this guy, so the point is moot. Just ignore his goofy ass.
>>47679157
I'm not the prospective Jumpmaker, just someone who thinks you're being stupid. We allow all kinds of stupid powergrabby shit for surviving normal Jumps, so why not allow the same level of stupid powergrabby shit in Gauntlets? The only answer is "muh risk," and there's no such thing as risk in Jumpchain for most Jumpers.
Well, the Zootopia Jump is finished. In the interest of giving everybody something else to look at, I'll post it now.
Changelog
+ Undiscounted Perks included. (Can't believe I forgot those the first time around.)
+ Some editing and formatting done in the hopes to make it easier to read. (Not something I'm great at, but I tried.)
+ Each location now has a short paragraph about them containing basic information.
+ Amphibians, Reptiles, Simians, and Birds are all now legal choices, thanks to some additional information from the creators about the world at large.
+ All sorts of fluff has been written.
+ Canon Companion has been altered slightly.
+ New Drawbacks: Ewe Can't Keep a Bad Sheep Down & Innocence Lost.
That's pretty much it. It's basically ready to be uploaded, but I'd like some feedback on it in general. Please let me know if there are mistakes that I did not see in my round of editing.
>>47679102
The issue was tabled so why do you feel the need to reiterate your point?
>>47679157
Er, dude your not talking to the right guy. I'm the one who is asking after Mortal Hero Gauntlet.
>>47679240
And crap, i'm not going to be taken seriously now am I?
>>47679258
>And crap, i'm not going to be taken seriously now am I?
Noooope. You see the big problem with not speaking up when someone is causing shit and everyone is visibly in the belief they are you? It completely ruins your reputation. Shoulda given a quick post pointing out you two were different, cause it won't be fun from here.
>>47679258
>Er, dude your not talking to the right guy.
Oh, yeah you should have said that sooner.
>>47679248
>We allow all kinds of stupid powergrabby shit for surviving normal Jumps
And a lot of them aren't well like. Or are justified through the inclusion of scenarios to impose additional risk/challenges, and their effects are being exaggerated by you.
That's the point of thread critique. To prevent exceptions to that.
>there's no such thing as risk in Jumpchain
And there's no such thing as a right way to play jumpchain, no matter how much you try to rub your smug opinions in other peoples' faces.
>>47679258
Nope. If it's any consolation, I apologise for blaming you for the stupid shit the other guy said, but you can thank him for a large part of the reason why you won't be.
>>47679078
>Well the wildlife in 98% of the world is better than the average human.
Nah, it's mostly the same creatures as in real life. With weird things like Tyrant Lizards and such mostly on the fringes of the world.
>mortal weapons able to deal with said wildlife are in short supply and use a limited resource
What? You mean firewands?
>there are multiple League of Shadows knockoffs, some of those League of Shadows knockoffs have Exalted/Godly/Spirit/etc backing
Not sure which 'leagues of shadows' you mean here...?
>the climate in the place you start in can kill you in three out of five locations,
As in real life? Because frozen tundra, rainforests, and deserts and such exist here too... Unless you mean the underworld, malfeas, and the wyld. in which case, why the fuck are you starting us there?
>Mortal practitioners of Supernatural Martial Arts are often pricks willing to kill you for a slight
Also really damn rare. Meh
>As the average Mortal Hero you can be killed by a crowd of people with pitchforks and no training, so yeah.
...Yes? So? Most normal fighters can be killed by a crowd. Don't fight crowds.
>>47679151
I was just using that as an example. I wasn't trying to make assumptions about your build one way or another.
>>47679234
True, I was just offering a little feedback on his concern. I wasn't suggesting a ruling or anything of the sort.
>>47679248
>there's no such thing as risk in Jumpchain for most Jumpers
I didn't want to get involved but I just wanted to let you know every time you type something like that people are going to shit on you.
You don't have to believe me, but people REALLY don't like being told how to play.
>>47679258
Because you're likely just being coy. You're making a power grab jump and you don't want to admit to it, and, even after its been spelled out for you at length that this is a bad idea and perceived as either a way to spite LoT or just baldly buff your build, you won't come out and say that you've dropped it.
You and your "gauntlet" have no credibility at this point.
There's a silver lining to the current mood in thread.
If Anti-Red hasn't been banned, he must be shitting blood in rage right now.
>>47678705
Yeah, I also prefer 2e still.
>>47679427
I know. Isn't it just fantastic?
>>47679253
Bad timing friend, but I do like the jump, thank you for making it.
>>47679372
That's because the average person here is an autist who wants to out-Mary Sue every single Mary Sue in fiction but doesn't want to be called on it.
>>47679469
Not everyone build like you, bud.
>>47679468
Eh, it was a shot in the dark. I'll post it again later if I have to but I thought I'd give it a try.
>>47679253
203. Zootopia
Race: Rat, Age: 22, Origin: Drop-In
Location: Woodland Warren
Perks: Zoology 101 (-200), Green Energy (-600), Fluffy (-50), You Are Even Cuter Than I Thought You'd Be (-100)
Items: Doughnuts (-50), DVD Collection (-100), iCarrot Music Player (-100)
Drawbacks: Power Lock Down (+200)
Updated. There goes the whole "Mystic Detective" thing, but that doesn't mean I can't just be a normal PI. It's not like I don't have years of practice solving mysteries and getting into fights with people bigger than myself. The power-lock training isn't just for stuff like fighting, anyway. I also study shit that I wrote down when I had all the perks. I don't get a lot of it, but I do it.
