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Share your most hilarious playgroup moments.
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>>47651541
>RESOURCES
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>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/
>CARD SEARCHING
>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/
>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface
http://www.magiccards.info
According to a Sedris player, Mogis is OP as commander
I suppose he's difficult like all the gods and does lean towards stax gameplay, but this claim on its own seems a bit silly
I wasn't in the room, just something I've heard from someone else
>>47666466
How is mogis at all OP?
take 2 damage a turn or sac a creature. Scratch damage in a 40 life format, especially when decks can have excessive life/creatures that they dont care about.
>>47666466
>>47666651
I run Mogis in my Nekusar deck. The abilities are average at best but its fun to use and getting him into creature form isn't hard either.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/07-06-16-jeskai-ascendancy-combo/
just built this would love some feedback please
>>47667513
>30 lands
>in a 5-color deck
>entire mana base folds to a Ruination or a wipe
>a whopping 2 Slivers in a deck with a Sliver commander
If you built this just to make me mad, it fucking worked
>>47666424
Recent game: people got ramped and hugged by Selvala, Gitgud Frog tried to land various engines which got killed quickly, blue players (Teferi and Jin) tried to go for combo kills early and just kept countering eachother. Board got wrathed like 3 times from big beaters and lots of tokens. Frog player then got his graveyard hated. Meanwhile I (Daretti) drew million cards from Minds Eye and tons of big mana artifacts so I got greedy too and played my only instant win combo into removal. Won several turns later with 20 artifacts and Tyrant. Such is life in the mono red zone.
>>47666424
>Share your most hilarious playgroup moments.
Oh boy, strap in
>playing Godo against Karador, Lazav and Odric 2.0
>Odric player knows how explosive my deck can be so he immediately starts hammering away at me, other guys ping me now and again
>End up down to like 3 life, drop Wheel of Fortune as my last card in hand
>Draw into every possible thing I could need: Basilisk Collar, Magnetic Theft, Fireshrieker, Trailblazer's Boots, Nim Deathmantle, Seize the Day, and Chandra's Ignition
>drop Collar, suit up, and play Ignition
>Odric player hangs his head in defeat and the other guys try to argue that deathtouch only works in combat
>drop the rest of the Equipment and beat the shit out of the table with 5 combat phases
>>47667513
On the off chance of replying to a troll. Why not use Child of Alara or Progenitus instead?
Am new, what happens if I cascade into an X cost?
>>47668078
X = 0
>>47667840
>the other guys try to argue that deathtouch only works in combat
High-tier kek
>>47667513
You built a 5-color combo deck... around Jeskai Ascendancy of all things?
>>47668199
Not him, and I haven't even looked at the list, but imagine comboing it with token spells, convoke, Cryptolith Rite, and the other cards that let you tap creatures for mana. Makes perfect sense to me that you'd need green. And I guess black for tutors.
>>47668301
OK, but he has access to every color and a million other BETTER combos including commanders. This is coming from a guy who built a combo around Mishra.
Jeskai Ascendancy requires a LOT of build-around and don't get me wrong it's fun in 60-card when you can run a bunch of 4-ofs but in 100-card singleton it's just a waste of everyone's time.
>>47668301
You should look. Just go look.
>EDH game
>one friend is playing group hug
>plays 2 lands that can be tapped for mana or tapped and sack for draws
>first guy uses them for mana
>2nd guy uses them for mana
>I sack the fuck out of them, hell yeah 2 free draws
>everybody gets butthurt
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/extreme-budget-no-scoping-under-5-without-lands/
Did one of you nerds make this, wheres the $20 Unhollowed Anon.
>sidisi tutor snek
>ad nauseum
>sickening dreams
>boseiju asian tree
>dark sphere
>zuran orb
>54 swamps
Wish me luck, it folds to 1 counterspell but that gives me more time to go play a better format
>>47668524
You're missing about 40 cards there, genius.
>>47668456
>2 lands that get passed around and can be sacced to draw
What are those?
>>47668524
Unless the spell gets exiled, you can use Codex Shredder and Shrouded Lore to get your Ad Naus back. Imp's Mischief can also be used as anti-counter tech.
>>47668648
Rainbow Vale can get passed but it doesn't sac to draw
>>47668025
Because in a pinch the slivers can be mana dorks with the mana slivers in play
I could not get a reply in the last thread before it died but I can't decide whether to go zur doomsday or zur solitary confinement for my next deck. I am planning to make the deck to be as powerful as possible but I don't know which is better?
>>47667840
5 combat phases how?
>>47668783
Doomsday seems more powerfull overall. The other options just protects you, while Doomsday lets you win practically one the spot (although you still need some setup).
>>47668857
Does anyone have a list, I can only find one on google.
>mfw giving the Yeva player a Steel Golem
THE WILL OF ZEDRUU
>>47668766
What slivers? The deck has 3 including the queen and I don't see any shapeshifters. If you aren't going to commit to the slivers you are going to fail and your deck is shit anyways
>down to me and one guy
>he wipes my creatures
>I angel's grace to stall for my turn
>put down Guardian Angel
>no response in hand
>proceed to give myself protection from all damage
>manage to get out Angel of Hope
>keep stalling since I have unlimited mana works
>slowly build up my board and he still hasn't pulled anything to exile/bounce her
>he gets pissed off and pulls All Is Dust
>his face when pic related
>>47668797
>Rebound trigger for World at War
>Normal combat
>Godo's trigger
>Seize the Day
>Flashback Seize the Day in postcombat main phase
I could go infinite but I only had Sword of Feast and Famine out without Aggravated Assault
>>47668970
You're a devil good shit.
>>47666424
Best playgroup moment
>playing a 5 player game
>4 regulars and new guy
>new guy is relatively normal
>sit down to play
>he gets out a daxos b/w precon
>new guy is using ultrapro sleeves not superior kmc sleeves
>they are matte black without anime girls on them
>not double sleeved
>his playmat is not even a gameday champion mat
>t1 his first land is a FUCKING THEROS BASIC SWAMP
>point this out to him its not standard its elder dragon highlord
>t2 he plays a sphere of the sun
>i educate him how muh better sol ring is
>by t4 he scoops and leaves
>hasent seen him since
>dodged a bullet there tg
Fucking casual outsiders, this is my game, you better bring it like i bring my derevi stax or go back to facebook chad
>>47669297
>>47669029
>playing a sliver commander
>you MUST play tribal
>playing derevi
>forced to play bird wizard tribal because of you commander
Your argument is retarded and you are a potato
>>47669297
>derevi stax
That's 2 threads in a row now, is this the hot new /edh/ meme?
>>47669373
Slivers don't really work when there aren't very many of them. The entire point, flavor-wise and mechanically, is that they get better the more of them are out there, so they really are best played as a tribe
That deck is pretty much just a 5-color mana dork/ramp deck
I need super double secret spicy Golgari tech
Give me your best
>>47669450
i love the shit out of deathreap ritual over grim backwoods any day of the year
>>47669381
You mad casual?
>>47669465
Grim Backwoods actually looks pretty good for who I'm building
>>47669507
Hows that deck coming along mang, you've been storming it for like 3 threads now.
r8 h8 apprci8
>>47669530
Not too bad, if a bit slow. Lots of sac effects. Golgari Mind Control is pretty groovy
I only asked because I'm looking for stuff to round it out, I'll stop talking about it now
>>47668970
>Tragic Arrogance
>Only creature they have now is Grim Monitor
>>47669628
Shit, meant grid
>>47669297
it's official: magic players are autistic
>>47669628
I have a new dream.
>drop Tragic Arrogance
>while someone has Steel Golem, someone else has Grid Monitor, and yet another person has a lethal Delaying Shield who can't pay white mana
>all while I only have Barren Glory on the field and an Armageddon in hand
This is how I will win. After that I will never play Magic again, because there is no way I would be able to top that victory.
>>47669768
That's clearly a troll, anon
>playing Newlivia
>Drop late game Solemn
>Madness Malevolent Whispers
>Target player A's Kozilek
>Move to combat and attack player B
>Wait what? Oh counter that shit
>mfw
I made a stink about it and somehow I was the bad guy. I just packed up my shit.
>>47669838
No. Fuck no.
Please tell me you're dropping that playgroup. That's unforgivable.
>>47669838
assuming you gave pause in between each of those actions and didn't just say "steal kozilek and hit you", those guys are cunts
>>47669838
Fuck that. If they all consented and you moved to combat, that's a garbage group. Go find a new one, you'll be better off.
>>47669538
>Oloro, Ageless Autist
Unforgivable
>>47669538
Half of your decks are cancer and the other half are alright, I'm conflicted
>>47669900
Yea. I always pause because other shit like that has happens sometimes. Hell, I've learned to play certain combos slower and in a certain order because of "Oh, well counter that" screwing me over after they see the whole combo. This time, he even asked me what it did because it was the first time I used it. I told him it's just a threaten with Madness that gives +2/0, and that I was stealing Kozilek.
>>47669899
>>47669920
Wish I could. They're the only ones in the area, and I've been playing with them for a few years now.
Honestly, the group is fine. Sometimes, shit like this happens, and I was just not having any of it for other reasons.
Ulvenwald Mysteries in Jarad is fucking crazy
>>47669973
Kill them, use your katana to slice them in half like derevi stax does to other pretend decks
>>47669297
>>47669999
>Kill them, use your katana to slice them in half like derevi stax does to other pretend decks
I normally wouldn't support such drastic measures but quads don't lie.
>>47669373
>I have justify why I play a garbage commander that has no synergy with my deck
You are just thick skulled faggot incapable of reason. You're deck is shit and you can't handle the criticism. Put in effort and maybe your deck won't get its ass kicked by a $30 nekusar
![Image[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WQs7QBg.jpg "Image[1].jpg")
>>47668648
>>47668664
Explanation:
Group Hug had on pic related on the field.
He also played Rainbow Veil and Thespien Stage (Rainbow Vale)
I tapped and sac'd both Rainbow Veils for cards and everyone got mad.
>>47669999
Dubs followed by Quads means you've got to do it OP.
>>47670203
Got it
That's fucking stupid on everyone else's part, tap and sac a land you don't get to keep for draw? Fuck yeah I would
>>47670221
That's what I thought. It was a 6 player game, everyone but me was a tournament usual. I was surprised they were flustered about it. Went through 2 or 3 people before it got to me.
>>47670221
It's a question of playgroups. In ours when hugs plays something like Rainbow Vale, or something that helps everybody in some way, we have a sort of gentlemen's agreement to let it last at least 1 time around the table before getting rid of it (unless it directly fuels somebody's win, like the mana doubling enchants can do).
>>47670256
Fuck that noise. Never indulge the group hug player.
>>47670301
I was the group hug player once. It was awful. That's not a fun style to play at all, you do pretty much nothing proactive
>>47669538
your close friend is a faggoli
>>47670301
>>47670316
Why not? He likes to bring it out after we've had a game or two of our competitive combo solitaire games to throw wrenches at us. Granted it's a Riku chaos-hugs thing with lots of targeted hugs, so he has a much more "proactive" style as you put it, things like Death by Dragons copied 4-5 times against you when you're about to win always makes you go "shit what do I do about this..."
>>47670197
MAXIMUM BUTTHURT ACHIEVED!!!!!
>>47670367
>Riku chaos-hugs
Absolutely disgusting
>>4767040
I mean he did pull the "I have a cheatyface behind every card in this deck" on us one time.
Posting this again.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/marchesa-counters-combos-1/
Looking to optimize a list before I commit to any purchases/trades. The goal is to be as competitive as possible while abusing unique Marchesa's abilities. Big impact early on; every play should have an effect.
From what I can tell, there's the aggro, stax, midrange, and combo builds. I'd prefer a cheaty midrange or combo build, but my current list might be spread too the between the two. Teysa already fills my stax role and aggro seems a bit flimsy, though I've not seen Marchesa aggro in action.
My meta is a bit varied but I'm mostly worried about Mono-blue control and Prossh. Budget's not too much of an issue, but have a back-up recommendation if you're suggesting anything over $80.
>>47670456
here's a win condition for you
>>47670500
Fug I just saw your maybeboard, my bad
>>47670500
Why is the bearer of heaven not legendary?
Is there some multiverse shit going on or does each god in Theros just have their own condo made of pixie dust with a giant manservant carting them around?
>oloro
>beacon of immortality
>like a dozen boardwipes
>serra avatar
>avacyn
>vizkopa guildmage
>esper ok stuff to fill in, mostly lifetouch/lifegain, counterspells and tutors
Rate me
>move to a different area
>nobody really plays commander here
>still collecting regardless of no one to play with
>go from one completed deck to three over the year
what do
i haven't played a legit game of paper commander in fucking forever, all the faggots here in orlando play nothing but standard or modern
i am JONESIN for some got dam magic
>>47670610
There was more than one in Greek myths tho.
>>47670610
If he was your commander, playing him means people stop attacking you. And you could always find a million ways to kill it yourself. Worldfire on legs.
>>47670614
6/10, it sounds like typical Esper crap, although that's still one of the stronger color combinations
Let's say I gain infinite life. What's your response? You do have an alternate win con right?
>>47670644
Okay. I was wondering if that was the case.
>>47670645
Worldfire on legs sounds like an edgy band. I bet the Bearer of Heavens would listen to edgy shit
>fucking gods making me carry around their piece of shit
>oh my god I just do this every day
>those fucking assfucks are lucky I don't just kill myself
>y-yeah, they'd be sorry when all their shit is fucked up
>I'll just murder everyone when I feel like it
>>47670689
test of endurance and the like
nth for help me art
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ramses-overdark-art-tribal/
>>47670626
Where ya move to anon
>>47670689
I have that black god that says nobody else can gain life, and that card that reverts all life to 20.
Haven't played in a while, sorry
>>47670610
Because limited number of Legendaries per set.
>>47670718
Alpha or beta unholy strength
>>47670730
orlando, florida
there's card shops fucking everywhere here, but nobody brings or plays commander to any of them
>>47670711
And Felidar Sovereign and Vizkopa/Sanguine Bond/Exquisite Blood? I'm bored already, and downgrading you to a 5/10. Sorry bud, that's like babby's first infinite combo.
>>47670768
lol, that's because it's full of dirty cubans who steal anything that might be worth something.
>>47670777
nice trips
that wasn't the anon whose deck we're talking about. I just spouted the first alt win-con that entered my mind when I saw oloro+beacon
>>47670777
I don't have exquisite blood and I don't know what Felidar Sovereign is.
I have some angel that attacks and gives me more turns though.
>>47670718
>"Great art"
No great MTG art list can be complete without Phil Foglio, anon
>>47670768
If you came to west palm(the other shit hole) I'd help ya out.
>>47670718
Ebon Praetor
>>47669538
>$100-200
>krenko
your doing something wrong
>>47670456
>>47670500
>>47670578
No problem; appreciate the view. Really difficult for folks to even take a look at it, ha.
>>47666424
> Oloro player attacks me with Serra Avatar
> I flash Hornet nest into play.> After a silent moment, "Fuck it, wrath."
>>47670918
Every single time.I'm still laughing
>>47670918
At least it wasn't a Massacre Wurm.
I will never play more than a dozen 1/1s or 2/2s at a time because of that fucker.
>>47670866
>your doing something wrong
how so, anon?
>>47666424
>Share your most hilarious playgroup moments.
Alright here's the good shit
>Odric 1.0, Hidetsugu, D-Lord Silumgar and Odric 2.0 game
>Newdric has a fuckload of keyworded creatures, doublestriking and lifelinking like crazy
>obviously trying to win with Felidar Sovereign on the field
>gains like 180 life from attacking and blocking around the table
>everyone looking sad because bullshit wincon and no cards in hand but me
>finally my turn, Newdric is sitting around 220 life
>attack with some Soldier tokens and Oldric, assign blockers to the tokens
>before damage, tap Brass Squire to attach Quietus Spike to Oldric
>sac Copper Gnomes to put Vedalken Orrery into play
>flash in True Conviction
>Silumgar player's Wound Reflection kills off Newdric because he ate over half his life total from Quietus Spike
>>47670994
a good krenko deck cost like 70 bucks at most
>>47668078
if you can find a way to pay a card's casting cost while not paying it's casting cost, you can have X equal whatever you want. Also there are some philosophers that would like to speak with you.
>>47671082
Well I'm getting a Quietus Spike now. Lifegain is a big thing in my group and I hate it
>>47671082
>Quietus Spike
That's a spicy tech right there. Can you post your decklist?
>>47670383
>I'm getting called out better call him a fatty
I can do this all day, faggot.
Working on tuning my Ashling deck. I'm adding a card to prevent life gain (there's a pretty mean Karlov). I was thinking Sulfuric Vortex, but Witch Hunt is also staring me in the face. Help me choose:
>Sufuric Vortex is 2CMC less
>Sulfuric Vortex deals damage to everyone (including myself)
>Witch Hunt is 2CMC more and deals damage to one person (and can come back to me).
>But the random opponent thing is kinda fun and amuses me greatly...
>mfw looking through Gitrog lists
Jesus this deck has a skill ceiling in the upper atmosphere
They don't call him the Gitgud Monster for nothing
>>47671352
you know about this card right?
>>47671373
>getting landfall to proc twice
>all those "when a land enters the graveyard" abilities
He's pretty awesome. Want to post one of your favorite deck lists? Most I find are just Meren precon parts with a damnation slapped in there.
>>47671341
Nice comeback over an hour later broham, did your mother call you for tendies?
I dont finish work for another 7 hours, Lets do this
Also thread relative is pic related playable any other way except eldrazi and boardwipes?
>>47670197
I know my deck is not "good" but I'm just looking to make it at least a little competent while keeping the Jeskai Ascendancy theme btw im not the guy your arguing with
>>47667513
Seems dope, would have to see it play before i can give any feedback
>>47671479
Thanks anon anything that feels like I should already have it in there?
>>47671316
Yeah here
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/strategery-1/
It'd get torn apart in a high-power meta but my group is full of goofy decks and it's fun
Copper Gnomes, Leonin Shikari and Puresteel are fucking disgusting together, poop out Godsend on combat and instant-speed exile more or less whatever you want
>>47671459
Wow, that's a spicy commander right there. I was looking to make a Jori En cantrips deck but I have all the functional parts for a colourless eldrazi deck, so I was torn in general between the two concepts. Now I'm just going to mash them together, splash some blue and red removal, and have a great time.
>>47671459
>card that lets you cast ANYTHING in your colors for 2 colorless
your only limitation is your imagination and yourwallet, friend
>>47671469
Yeah hes arguing with me, ive got no problem with your deck, play what you want, ausists get triggered when you are not playing a streamlined netdeck, if you enjoy brewing go for it
>>47671459
>Wow it took you an hour to reply
Man you are pathetic, do you having nothing better to do that wait around for my reply? I suppose I should be honored
>>47671469
Nobody cares faggot
>>47671497
A time spiral or timetwister would allow you to basically generate near infinite storm. I'd personally throw in a burning or cunning wish for some extra utility
>>47669538
Aside from Trostani, your playgroup looks pretty fun.
>>47671552
Getting paid to trigger you, wew lad
>>47671506
Shes pretty neat, seems a hit or miss some games, either you have an early eldrazi on the board or a hand full of counterspells and wipes
>tfw addicted to building mono-red
help me
>>47671590
Ok you got me, last reply. Now kindly fuck off.
>>47666424
Most hilarious moments? Hard to say, but here's a recent gem with Xenagos:
>One of the most tuned and fearsome decks in my group is Ob Nixilis.
>It's basically sudden, massive landfall triggers resulting in tons of damage and a 24/24 unblockable commander
>We are all fucked when that thing attacks the next turn
>Other guy is elfball, and I have a Defense of the Heart on the field
>It reaches my turn and triggers Defense, I but Malignus and Molten Primordial on the field
>I steal Ob Nixilis
>I give it Hunter's Insight and Xenagos doubles his power
>I hit the elfball for lethal and draw so many cards
>Ob Nixilis player is very annoyed and goes to grab him back
>"Who said my turn was over?"
>In my huge draw, I got Grab the Reins
>Sac him and throw his damage back at his controller.
>>47671584
red box seems like a pretty cool guy
>>47671377
Yes, but that does not have a hilarous chaos effect or kill everyone together effect. Both being the predominant themes of Ashling.
>>47671613
Why are you so angry anon? You dont have all day to do this anymore?
>>47671595
Daretti, Never Forgetti
>>47671590
In all honesty, I was thinking a colourless shell with an artifact focus. I bet it would be relatively easy to tutor an island and a mountain in reasonable time then drop some fancy artifacts to cause some mayhem.
Are there any hatebears I should be aware of that will ruin my day?
>>47671625
He's pretty fun to play with. When we first started playing he would whine and hold grudges between games but recently he's been getting a lot more chill.
>>47671620
>sudden, massive landfall triggers
>in mono black
A mono-b deck that's not UrborgCoffersExsanguinate.dec? Now I'm intrigued
>>47671670
No I have a few more hours until I go to bed for work tomorrow morning, I just don't see a point shitposting with your stupid ass when quality posts can be done without your autistic fingers reaching the bump limit
>>47671711
I thought you said your last post was your final post? Cant keep away can you :^)
>>47671692
All of the new eldrazi processors ruin suspend (removing a card from exile) also stull like hallowed moonlight that exile a creature if it didnt come from your hand, thats what all the counterspells are for
>>47671809
Quality post m8. Go show your mother In sure she'll like it
>>47671809
>All of the new eldrazi processors ruin suspend
Holy fuck, I thought it was just extremely situational effects that no one was ever going to use, you're right that's awesome. Thank goodness no one in my playgroup uses those bastards.
>>47666424
>be new to magic in 2014
>pick up mono white deck
>playing with people that have played magic for years
>everyones doing stuff i dont understand
>guy to my right is coaching me and playing his deck at same time
>people leave me alone for the most part because I've got nothing
>muh mono white precon
>guy thats coaching me playing nekuzar and starts with this mass draw/discard with windfall, wheel of fortune, etc
>amasses a giant army of zombies
>guy playing sliver tribal has coat of arms, making nekuzar guys zombies massive
>in the hand I've got from the mass draw and discard, I have angel of the dire hour
>nekuzar starts swinging with his giant army
>nekuzar guys wife looks at my hand, tells me to cast angel of dire hour
>nekuzar guys fw I stole his thunder
>>47671373
>Jesus this deck has a skill ceiling in the upper atmosphere
You mean
>This deck is close to Monoblack in the lack of variation
>>47670626
You have three decks. Give two to two other players and host a three player game to whet their appetites.
Anyone else running terrible cards in their decks that they want to remove, but can't bring themselves to?
Pic related, it's in my spellslinger deck. There was this one hours-long game which came down to a stalemate between me and one other guy. I had an indestructible 8/8 who could kill him in one hit, but he had a Kher Keep. I spent about 10 turns smacking kobolds before I decked myself.
It also hoses opponents' GY strategies which is cool, but I mainly run it to protect my own GY/library
>>47672209
Some cards you just keep in b/c they're relevant to your meta.
It hurt taking pic related out of my deck b/c of how useful it's been. But I finally got a serra's ascendant so it had to go.
>>47672209
This thing in my Emmara deck. I pretty much fail to draw it every game but I feel like I can get it to somehow work if I can get it out
>tfw I like the idea of graveyard/sac-reanimate strategies but like aggro too much to actually build it
Shit.
>>47672457
>my Emmara deck
Anon why
Jesus Christ
>>47672477
Cryptolith Rites gave me hope. I have doubling season and parallel lives so if I had the best situation I could do it. I need to find something to replace it with quick.
>>47672465
Play Varolz and lil golgari guys, its like aggro reanimator
>>47672506
pic related
>>47671871
I run void attendant in most decks as we have a regular who plays suspend
>>47672521
I was thinking about him. Or Jarad, running bunches of sac effects to make him huge/life loss and then either throwing him at people or smacking people in the face
>>47670718
Benis :DDDD
>>47671705
It has those too. But that's the backup plan.
Basically it has every fetch land and artifact/spell mono black can run. The deck lays out as much as possible in the first few turns, then once the commander is on the board, triggers them all and continues to do so each turn. If all else fails, it exsanguinates. It sounds pretty unassuming until you play against it.
>Ob Nixilis on the board
>A single fetchland hits the board
>3 damage and 3 counters
>activate the fetch
>3 more damage and 3 more counters
That's 6 damage and a 9/9 commander for pretty cheap, and that's just the smallest-scale scenario
>Shizo Death's Storehouse, rogue's passage or other evasion-giver + lightning greaves or boots = quick commander damage
>Also Crucible of Worlds
I don't know all the details of it but, yeah, it's basically just super-economical damage/big commander very fast. My new Gruul deck is its bane though, due to R/G artifact destruction and ramping into big creatures faster.
>>47669507
>>47669465
Every time I have had Grim backwoods out I have probably used the ability once.
The ability is just too expensive
>>47672533
All joking aside I think I have an idea of what to put in place of it now.
>>47670761
Duly noted
>>47670814
Already in
>>47670858
Will add, but it'll probably get cut
>>47672875
oot homo
>>47673088
(you)
Going through my legends; see this fucker.
How on Earth would you go about winning with this guy, who not only is only on the battlefield half the time, but negates half of your turns. Aside from just locking the board down entirely with artifact faggotry, I guess?
>>47672981
I mean, anon, that's ok.
It's fine to have a utility land that only comes up occasionally; it comes in untapped and produces colorless, so as long as your color demands aren't to extreme and you aren't crazy hyped about some funny land type synergy, it's a perfectly ok card to have in desperate situations.
I run it in meren, as one of like 3 cards that produce colorless, apart from high market and reliquary tower. Every once in a while, I'm glad to have it, and I've never seriously regretted that it couldn't produce colored mana.
>>47673770
There is nothing for you, anon. No hope.
Only stax could possibly grant you redemption.
Also landfall, of which I believe there is 1 good landfall thing in monoblue. And I dunno, maybe some of those Kamigawa moonfolk dudes that bounce your lands, like Uyo?
It's a stinker, anon.
>>47673829
>landfall
Not even that would save me; phasing doesn't trigger ETB.
>>47673770
You could donate it with zedruu
>>47666466
Purphoros winfinite combos are extremely easy to pull off in EDH
>>47672209
3 mana draw 2 a turn in green is pretty good, and most of my deck is small creatures so my opponents feel like shit wasting counters on them and use them on each other.although it's stupidly group hug
>>47673770MLD
>>47666424
There aren't too many "hilarious" moments in-game with my group. Just some fun plays here and there. All the funny stuff happens in our conversations.
>Grenzo vs. Nekusar vs. Ojutai
>Grenzo player Chaos Warps Nekusar.
>Nekusar player decides to shuffle him into the deck.
>Good 5 minutes of shuffling.
>Top card revealed is Nekusar.
---
>Surrak Dragonclaw vs. Mimeoplasm vs. Marath
>Mimeoplasm taking off really quickly. Surrak player dead. Marath almost dead. Mimeoplasm player at 7 life.
>Marath ready to concede. Mimeoplasm player swinging for lethal. Only blocker is a 7/7 Marath.
>Surrak player says, "Dude, read your cards."
>Marath player looks at Marath goes, "OH!" and deals 7 damage to Mimeoplasm player.
>>47669297
>>47669297
>>47669297
>>47669297
Take notes kids, your life doesn't have to be like this; you can use a simple casual game to expand-- instead of cripple-- all potential friendships that come your way
>>47674257
I like Brown & Blue, despise Black box
>>47671633
> not have a hilarous chaos effec tor kill everyone together effect.
> undoes two core rules of the game
> stops any healing from preventing on player from surviving while the others perish
> comes out on turn 0
I mean it's not Grip of Chaos but c'mon this is as red as it gets
>Like to test my decks against each other in solitaire matches when I'm bored and in the mood for brewing.
>Play my Isperia Flyers deck vs my Yasova thievery deck.
>Manage to get Dovescape and Blazing Archon out on Isperia's side and expecting a prompt victory.
>Yasova's turn draws a Progenitor Mimic and copies Blazing Archon.
>Realize I've pretty much boned both sides of the game with this strange interaction of not being able to cast anything but creatures who can't attack.
>Mfw
Jesus Christ how awful
>>47674298
Most of us despise Black box.
Brown and Blue don't come out and play enough, unfortunately.
>>47673770
Sunder
Worldslayer
Upheaval
Basically anything with a universal downside that you can negate with Taniwha (though you may need instant speed tech or mana rocks to pull off combos)
He can be like worldgorger dragon for monoblue land control, but then again, your playgroup will hate you and know what's coming after the first game you pull it off
>>47674356
upheaval is banned bra
>tfw I have cards collecting dust and I can't figure out a general to use them with.
Help me decide, /tg/.
>Blink.dec with all of these UW cards
I'm pretty much torn Ephara or Rasputin. Brago would be ideal but this isn't intended to be a competitive list, which I think is where Brago truly shines.
>Enchantress with Green in it (Argothian Enchantress)
I have a Daxos deck that does well because of Serra's Sanctum. I want to make an Enchantress deck that focuses more on defensive measures OR Voltron. I tried Sigarda a long while ago and she is boring, honestly.
>UBX Steal shit
Tried Lazav and Wrexial but found them boring. Can't do Jeleva since all of my good shit is in Riku. Aiming to do more of a "steal stuff from graveyard" thing. Mirko Vosk seems okay, but is there anyone else better?
>>47674709
>I'm pretty much torn Ephara or Rasputin. Brago would be ideal but this isn't intended to be a competitive list, which I think is where Brago truly shines.
do you own a rasputin? i think hes rad and fairly powerful but he's $30 and hard to find so imagine thats why i rarely see him
> I want to make an Enchantress deck that focuses more on defensive measures OR Voltron. I tried Sigarda a long while ago and she is boring, honestly.
what made sigarda boring to you? green white is the best color combo for enchantress, and she's good for either "defensive" enchantress or voltron
>Tried Lazav and Wrexial but found them boring.
what made them boring?
like how is somebody supposed to make recommendations for you based on what you've said here?
>>47674750
>like how is somebody supposed to make recommendations for you based on what you've said here?
Fair enough, time for some more info:
>Rasputin
I actually do own a copy. My first idea with him was actually an Artifact-Matters deck with Eldrazi to finish. I want to do a blink deck with him with more creatures than artifacts. (Barring the necessary ones like Erratic Portal, Crystal Shard, Diviner's Wand, etc.)
>Sigarda
The reason being is she felt fairly linear. Not Bruna linear (which I've played for a while until I dismantled the deck) but enough to make me feel like I wanted to play another deck other than her.
>Lazav/Wrexial
Reason being is a weird one: Whenever I played with Lazav, I felt like I was playing against creature-lite decks. Same with Wrexial with decks running more creatures than anything else. I don't think boring was the correct word to choose for these two, rather, they felt inconsistent.
>>47666424
French game against my girlfriend's Avacyn deck.
>I have been taking out her mana rocks all game. I do not want her general on the battlefield.
>she finally gets enough land and casts her.
>I use a red steal effect, and hit her with her own general.
>on my following turn I clone Avacyn, and we have a standoff.
>she exiles my clone. On the following turn I steal Avacyn again, and hit her again.
>final turn. I cast insurrection, and attack with everything. She gets taken out from commander damage from her own general.
>>47669538
>Being friends with a nigger
>>47674709
Ephara is probably going to be better than Rasputin, but Rasputin is really fun to see work.
Rasputin is a bit of a combo general, but ephara is stupid consistent.
>>47674877
1488 blaze the jews senpai
>>47674904
>>47672209
Yisan.
He's not terrible, but he rarely accomplishes much. Still, I can't bare to drop him. I have a soft spot in my heart for bards, and c'mon, he has VERSE counters in 2015. I love it.
>>47674709
this bitch is pretty good at stealing shit from the field. Take something, put a counter on it and sac/let it die and it comes back under your control permanently
>>47674258
dude, that's obviously b8
>>47674419
But not Sunder!
>>47673770
During your upkeep take mana from your lands with the phasing trigger on the stack, after it resolves cast Sunder.
You have learned the trick for playing Taniwha.
>>47674326
Yasova can steal your Blazing Archon though.
>>47666424
>Share your most hilarious playgroup moments.
>playing in a 5 man session
>has a lot of borrow creatures spells in my deck
>got act of treason in my hand
>one guy had rafiq of many as commander
>plays it out on turn 3
>board is still empty because everyone playing decks with big creatures
>next round he buffs up rafiq to a 8/8 and hit's one guy for 16 commander dmg
>my turn i use act of treason on rafiq and hit the same guy
>he dies to commander dmg
>get's salty because he never got to do anything
>>47671584
Question.
The deck with avacyn.
Is that a deck with a lot of board wipes?
>>47675494
>avacyn deck
>no board wipes
If it is he's living his life incorrectly.
Is kruphix a good commander for a seamonster/regular monster deck?
Im thinking hydras, baloths, krakens.dec
What are some ways to abuse him?
Was thinking karametra instead but she seems kind of weak.
>>47666424
No fun, only SCIENCE!
>>47676341
Slap Elemental Resonance on him, and any kind of card draw engines like Staff of Nin, Jushi Apprentice, Thought Reflection, etc.
For a silly wincon, Doubling Cube + Helix Pinnacle.
I need help with a casual non-EDH deck, I need to cut a few cards, I guess. Maybe it'd be sensible to have more than 60 cards in this deck.
http://deckstats.net/deck-10281738-e6edd785432286d81c64f07f6e30892f.html?builder=1
Help.
>>47676529
>non-EDH
why are you posting here then
I have a list for Geist of Saint Traft, very silly. But what are some cards that suit him well that aren't Swords of X and Y?
>>47676673
Blade of the Bloodchief
Sword of Kaldra
Trepanation Blade
>want to build a esper deck
>group is too casual for most of the commanders
Any ideas for a trash esper deck? I was thinking of maybe dragon tribal or March of the machine aggro
>>47676603
where else would I post it?
it's not competitive enough to be relevant for the guys in the modern or legacy threads
I've been helped here before. Cause the guys here are nicer
http://deckstats.net/deck-10208943-02c8e1a9bc3df9992abb2a39fc77ca43.html
Thoughts or recommendations on my new mono-G combo deck? Right now it has a winrate of about 80% in FFA games in my casual play group because no one else plays combo and thus there is little disruption running around.
>>47676673
Invocation of Saint Traft.
DOUBLE ANGEL POWERRRRRR
Also if you front-load your precombat main you can use Sundial of the Infinite to keep your angels if you use it right.
>>47676818
You could use Sydri pillowfort. Sydri + Caltrops is hilarious.
>>47676972
Yeah. Got those in there. Plus, some fun synergy with Myriad, which has the same end of combat exile triggers.
>>47677013
Let's see... there's not a lot of things to feed the Angels to for value in your colors, and not a ton of extra combat step stuff.
Exalted is good, since the Geist always attacks alone. Ditto things like Silent Arbiter to make combat swing in your favor. As for equipment, Godsend will let you keep connecting with the Angel and not worry about people blocking your Geist.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/multiplayer-commander-decklists/648382-meren-of-clan-grave-pact
>>47666424
Just bought Mind Seize, what are some good cards to beef it up?
>>47677205
Wheel of Fortune is a great investment if you can afford it. It's on the reserved list and is one of the best red card in the format
>>47677205
Depends on what you're doing.
Jeleva spellslinging? Lots of options there, and step one is take every single X spell out of the deck.
Nekusar? Go jump off a bridge.
>>47677242
>Nekusar? Go jump off a bridge.
Oh
O-okay...
>>47671117
Objectively wrong.
>107.3b If a player is casting a spell that has an {X} in its mana cost, the value of X isn’t defined by the text of that spell, and an effect lets that player cast that spell while paying neither its mana cost nor an alternative cost that includes X, then the only legal choice for X is 0. This doesn’t apply to effects that only reduce a cost, even if they reduce it to zero. See rule 601, “Casting Spells.”
tl;dr if you cast any X spell "without paying it's mana cost" then X=0 and only 0
Sauce: Comprehensive Rule Book
>>47675429
>plying 3 man session
>barids vs anafenza vs arcanis
>anfenza drops ulamog turn 3 using my braids and chaos ensues
>Ulamog attacks, gets stolen the following turn, clone'd so the original Ulamog dies, clone gets handled
>afterwards all our boards are empty and we are all around 15 life
>I have the best board state with 1 Land in play
Arcanis on in the end though
>>47677242
>Nekusar? Go jump off a bridge.
Why? He's hella fun and has lots of interaction.
Can also be pretty strong, I manage turn 4 or 5 wins if I pull a good starting hand.
>>47677293
It's just boring and overdone. I have seen exactly two Nekusar decks in the past 3 years that weren't just Wheels.dec
One of them was still the draw-punishing build, but wasn't just spamming wheels. The other was just Grixis Zombie Control and that was fun.
But yeah- 99% of all Nekusar decks just stack the same fucking cards. All the wheels in your colors, all the Howling Mine effects in your colors, all the duplicate Nekusar effects like Fate Unraveler and Underworld Dreams. End result is that they all play the same, and the way they play isn't fun to play against.
>>47671117
Yeah, that must be why all the Jund decks in modern play Comet Storm, so they can Cascade into a free win.
X is 0 if you're not paying for it, dillweed.
>>47677342
He's hella boring and the decks all play the same. Also, it's not really "interaction" if I have to play "Use it or lose it" every turn because the cards in my hand are gonna get wheeled away every fucking turn.
>>47669297
>he doesn't have anime girls on his sleeves
you did the right thing anon
>>47677047
Silent Arbiter is a good idea. Geist actually attacks mostly in Bands in my deck, either way Godsend is in.
I appreciate you helping out.
>>47677427
No problem. It seems like the biggest 'danger' is Geist dying in combat, what with the Hexproof and him needing to swing, so making combat less dangerous seems like a good plan.
On that note, Spirit Mantle and Unquestioned Authority might not be bad choices.
>>47677350
>He's hella boring and the decks all play the same
I find him to be a lot of fun to be honest. Out of my 4 decks he's my favorite one by far and it doesn't always play the same either.
>>47677548
Then maybe yours is interesting.
Almost every Nekusar deck I've ever seen was within maybe 10 or 15 cards of being a carbon copy of every other list. Nekusar, all the Nekusar-like draw-damage effects, all the wheels, all the howling mines, all the symmetrical draws, maybe a combo kill thrown in there, and then a ton of control to keep their idle "Draw 3 and take 9" engine beating you to death.
Ok so I am considering cutting all my removal from my Hazezon deck and replacing it with land destruction. Is it feasible to blow up enough land with smaller spells that dont effect me to keep people from their big stuff? How many cards out of 100 would need to be dedicated to the cause? Would the strategy have to be extreme recursion with green to make it work?
>>47677567
Targeted land destruction isn't gonna work for that. You'll knock them off their curve for a bit, but it'll also paint a giant fucking target on your face and people will absolutely HATE you.
If you're gonna go with Land Destruction, give them the whole dick and get into a superior board state and cast an Armageddon.
>>47677595
Yeah I might as well put that in. I have the ramp for it, plus shatterstorm is a blank now that my other friend isint running his ulamog anymore.
>>47677642
>>47677661
Yeah. LD is tricky. The targeted stuff is best for taking out key lands like Gaea's Cradle or Rogue's Passage (or smashing their one white source to put them off of removal for a while), but if you're devoting your whole deck to "keeping them from their big stuff", you're honestly way better off just putting in actual removal to deal with the big stuff.
The other option is to just get into a superior board position and drop Armageddon, or otherwise have a way to recover from it faster than they can (lots of mana rocks, ways to get your dead lands back, making your lands indestructible, etc)
Here are my decks
>>47677690
Here's the people I play with. Although very rarely get to play with top two anymore.
>>47677705
>Black
Hates everyone. Oloro is either a durdle-ass prison/pillowfort deck or some kind of hardcore combo deck that uses the free 2 life a turn as insurance. Niv Mizzet is either all spell-stealing and clones or a control deck that wins by the Curiosity combo.
>Red
Darien is Soldier tribal, has all the Soul Sisters and makes attacking him seem like a bad idea. Karador is either the usual "cast and sac dudes for value" or has the stupid Boonweaver combo.
>Green
Can only afford precons.
>Blue
Can only afford one deck. Probably has the Khans gainlands as his best manafixing.
>>47673829
Landfall doesn't work with Phasing.
Phasing doesn't trigger enter-the-battlefield or leave-the-battlefield triggers at all.
>>47677441
Oh neat. I'll need to look up how Banding works if one creature has protection. I think they can still block the band, but I can make them assign all damage to the creature with Prot, which would've protected.
Dolmen Gate is really good for this sort of thing. I wish there were more Lure effects in these colors.
>>47677350
You forgot puzzle box, and metamorph copying puzzlebox, and clever impersonater as another puzzlebox
>That was a fantastic game, people got so mad
>>47678169
And don't forget that at some point you cast a Body Double copying the Phyrexian Metamorph in someone else's graveyard to copy your Puzzle Box, and then you put Sculpting Steel on a Prototype Portal...
Also, you have a Kederekt Parasite (and a Phantasmal Image of it), a Fate Unraveler, a Spiteful Visions, an Underworld Dreams, a Copy Enchantment copying Spiteful Visions, and then a Whip of Erebos to make sure the Nekusar player can't die.
>>47678227
>>47678169
I'm going to vomit
>>47678302
Welcome to why I fucking hate Nekusar decks. They're misery to play against because you can't plan shit; you literally just cast the best spell in the hand you have THIS TURN because you know they're gonna fucking wheel on their turn, so there's no point planning for next turn. They all play the same cards, the same strategies, the same boring bullshit. They're boring, even when you win against them.
>>47678331
>being so bad you can't deal with getting card advantage every turn
Vev lad
>>47678454
"Oh look, I have enough mana to cast one of these 7 cards that cost me 21 life to draw before my turn ends. I'll cast the best one for this situation because I'm going to lose literally all of them as soon as I end my turn and he taps his fucking Jace's Archivist again"
It's not card advantage if you only keep them for one turn and never get to use them.
>>47678454
>Discard 7, draw 7
>Net gain of 0 cards
>Net loss of 7 or more life
>"Card advantage"
>>47678475
Then kill his 5 fucking mana howling mine you tard
>>47678493
Cool, I killed that.
Oh wait, he still has three Howling Mines two Puzzle Boxes a Spiteful Visions a Fate Unraveler, etc
That's the problem is the deck is just redundancy stacked upon redundancy stacked upon redundancy. Yeah, sometimes I draw into an Austere Command and wipe out his board, but more often than not I have to windmill slam any 'answer' I draw because I'm not gonna HAVE it next turn.
I'm not saying it's unbeatable, because it's very beatable. I'm saying it's frustrating and boring to play against.
>>47678486
Play cards before he wheels so you get a free refill maybe? or dont play with a curve so high you can only somehow play one card a turn
>>47678540
Again, I'm not asking for fucking advice on how to beat a 'broken' deck.
I understand how to beat it, I just don't like playing against it. Whether I win because I kept him off of his shit (or he drew me into a board wipe while he had no mana open) or I lose because I kept drawing grips full of my finishers and lands and none of my setup, it's BORING. It's boring and samey and frustrating every fucking game.
If there were a game where all I have to do to "win" is successfully eat an apple, but the whole time I'm getting kicked in the dick, I'm not gonna decline to play a second time because it's "too hard" or "I can't win". I'm gonna decline because I don't like getting kicked in the dick.
>>47678568
So you dont like decks that interact with you? gotcha
>>47678612
No, I don't like decks where 50 different lists will be the same 85 cards, where every single game is the same boring uphill slog, where I'm punished just for beginning my turn, where attempting to plan more than a single turn ahead is impossible, and where someone can literally just jack off on the table during their turns and I still take 10 damage during mine is "interactive" somehow.
>>47678630
Kill yourself shitter. only reason nekusar is annoying is because he enables actually good decks to win
>>47678630
Damn.
you are either a new player or not a very good one.
you know you can attempt to handle the nekusar player's board in your turn during your upkeep which is before the draw step and before you take damage do you?
I played a Duel Commander game against Crosis a few days ago and had him down to 2 life after like 5-6 turns, but after just one misplay he managed to win the game in the end although he would have been dead in his next draw step.
>>47666424
>Share your most hilarious playgroup moments.
Like the time I killed the table with a single unblockable Malignus?
>>47674356
Yeah, makes sense. Not sure I'd want to go through with it. Monoblue control would be like taking candy from a baby against my group, everyone likes jank.
>>47669297
this is why I love you people
>>47677690
Aboshan brother! Try going Cephalid tribal, or, try xenograft if you really don't want to change your flier deck
>>47679117
Yes
Share storytime
>Want to play a Naya deck
>Can't decide between Gahiji or Uril
This indecisiveness is going to be the death of me, I already keep taking apart my decks for others. Anyone got insight on how fun these might be or Naya colors in general?
>>47679623
Do you want voltron or an arms dealer?
>>47677350
Wow big surprise, Nekusar has a very specific ability and Nekusar decks are built to synergize with that ability what a crime
Whenever somebody complains about a commander being "boring" I know to to hide their posts forever
Does anybody else's group operate under the unwritten "rule" that you never counter a tutor, you only counter what they tutor FOR? I swear this has won me multiple games, and lost games for the table when what was tutored for either couldn't be countered or no longer mattered if it was countered (wanted to be in the graveyard anyway). But for some reason, my group just can't get it through their thick skulls that countering a tutor isn't a bad move.
>>47679997
Well very few people in my playgroup run counterspells
It's just me and one other player and neither of us play our counterspell decks every game
However another dude in our playgroup likes to berate people for countering demonic tutors and stuff
It's certainly never a bad idea to counter a three dreams, but I also think it's not a bad idea to counter a demonic tutor since you won't know what they have after it resolves
The "rule" makes sense regarding worldly tutor and mystical tutor since I'd rather just keep my counterspell and have knowledge of their hand, but I agree with you that sometimes it's smart to counter a tutor
>>47679288
OK
>Playing Kazuul against Azusa, Karametra and Aurelia
>Azusa and Karametra are both pooping out lands and can cast any fatty they want, Azusa also sitting on an Omnath with 30ish power/toughness
>most of my creatures and good artifacts have been blown up from removal
>me and Aurelia looking at our sad board states and 2 cards in hand apiece
>turn passes to me, topdeck Wake of Destruction, drop immediately and name Forest
>Aurelia player just laughs
>stops laughing when I drop Scrap Mastery and Malignus
>sac Hedron Archive to draw into Chaos Charm and Dictate of the Twin Gods
>Chaos Charm on Malignus, equip Blade of Selves, swing
>before blockers, sac Glaring Spotlight for unblockable everything
>flash in Dictate before damage
>everyone yells at me
That was a fun win
>>47680278
I thought you had a "sad board state" but you had like 20 mana?
>playing with a playgroup for months
>have to move to other part of country
>have to find a new play group
any advice?
Should i just go on FNM and see if anyone is playing edh?
miss me?
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