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ITT: We play Yugioh
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>>47638409
I INVOKE A CARD FACE DOWN AND PASS my turn.
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Special summon Burning Abyss Scarm and Farfa from hand, XYZ into Fortune Tune, activate Cattle Call, to get out pic related tribute to summon Tyrant King Neptune.
GG no re
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>>47638527

I SUMMON MAN-EATER BUG IN FACE-UP ATTACK MODE!
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>>47639298
WHY!? Why would ever you play Man fucking Eater Bug in attack mode?
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>>47639311

Heh, flustered already, Yugi-boy? You don't stand a GHOST of a chance of beating me and my Man-Eater Bug. Your move!
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>>47639352
I summon Black Luster Soldier, Envoy of the Beginning
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>>47639382
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>>47639382

Man-Eater Bug's ONLY WEAKNESS!
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>>47639391
Penalty Game: Mind Crush.
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>>47639440
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>>47639298
you're triggering me so hard my bones are rattling
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Now this is dueling
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>Get together with friend, talk about old yu gi oh cards
>Hey, wanna play?
>Sure
>Get my old, 2005-7 yu gi oh tourny deck that I kept in a box for ages
>He comes over, starts flinging out all this syncro summon shit
>I have to relearn all this shit as he does it, completly throws me for a loop.
I hate rule changes.
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>>47640385
Synchro Summons are my favorite, but I will never understand Pendulum rules.
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>>47640401
The gist of it is:
>certain monsters are also Pendulum monsters, as indicated by an extra box above their normal monster text box
>if you have two pendulum monsters in your hand, you can place them in your pendulum zones, setting the "pendulum scale"
>while there, they count as both spells and monsters for enemy removal, and any effects in their extra box are active (but not their monster effects)
>the numbers on either side of this box indicate the "pendulum scale"
>if your scale is set, you can special summon monsters from your hand for free if their levels are within the scale
>I.e. if you have one pendulum monster with one pendulum number of 1 and another with 8, you can special summon level 2-7 monsters

I wish I was making this up.
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I don't even play this game. I'm just useless filler who shouts inspirational lines to the protagonists.
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>>47641800
Whenever I fight a pendulum user in ygopro I start browsing other tabs while I wait for them to finish their 20 card long combos
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>>47641800

I am so happy I stopped playing this game.
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HEART OF THE CARDS
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catapult turtle
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>>47641852
The fun of being a character with the only purpose in a story is to have group reactions is underrated: No pressures, still see world crushing events daily, sorrounded by cuties who are inevitably ignored by the protagonist, you can even be the little girl.
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>>47638409
I XYZPENDUMBLUMFUZE DARK ELEMENTAL HERO SHINING THROBING NEOS ARCADIA XI NECRO MAGICIAN WINGMAN COGSHITTER
i guess ill try to use trap hol-
"NOT SO FAST MY SPCIAL ABILMITY LETS ME TWEEK MY NIIPLE AND DISABLE UR TRAPMAGICCARD UP TO 239847293847987 TIMES A TURN! AND WHEN I ATTACK I CAN ATTACK 29 MORE TIMES DIRECTLY DEDUCTING MY ATTACK DAMAGE FROM YOUR SPECIAL SUMMON ZONE AND IM ALSO IMMUNE TO PLOT CARDS!"
>wow i guess i'm gonna have to get a creature to defend with ill play this card face d-
"NOT SO FAST YOU ACTIVATED ITS SPECIAL ABILITY ONE PER TWICE PER HOWEVER MANY TIMES I WANT PER TURN I CAN NEGATE UR SUMMON AND ACTIVATE MY OTHER ABILITY WHICH LETS ME SEARCH MY DECK FOR AS MANY CARDS WITH LETTERS IN THEIR NAME AND PUT THEM DIRECTLY INTO MY HAND, THEN I CAN GIVE UP 4 LIFEPOINTS TO MAKE YOUR LOSE THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This thread remembers the one time I played it last year, after some 10 years without playing.

>Other dude gets his ultra fucking XYZ-i-dont-even-fucking-know-what deck.
>Got my Yugi deck, lets fucking do this.
>He literally places his entire fucking hand on the first turn.
>I show him my hand with exodia, with the biggest fucking shit-eating grin I can muster.
>Refuse repmatch, say he is far too terrible of an adversary for me to play with.

The thing is, I don't think I've ever got Exodia on the opening hand on my years where I played that shit every day. And suddenly this motherfucker comes in swooping to save the day.

Heart of cards indeed.
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I played a couple times at a tournament at the local card shop a few years back

People were playing their retarded XYZ-fuck-you-I-win-turn-2 decks and I was playing an annoying as fuck burn deck
>mfw some of them got really really fucking mad when I controlled them into oblivion and made the game take half an hour
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>>47641800
Metalphosis must make your skin crawl when they shit out exterio, crystal wing and infinity in the same turn.
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>ITT:salty oldfags, the thread
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>>47643909
Is Yu-Gi-Oh a solitaire game, judging by this .webm, or am I missing something?
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>>47643909
It's like he just keeps on pulling cards, I almost thought it would just keep going till he milled himself to death. This is a standard Yugioh game?
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>>47643945
>>47643957
Depends, the old HAT and Geargia decks were basically "I set a monster, set 5 in my backrow, pass" the whole game. Qlis and Statue beat are pretty much the same thing.
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>>47643873
It's like every single major update to this game has the sole intention of creating even more odorously idiotically convoluted and powerful gimmicks in order to come as close to completely invalidating everything which has gone before and sell more cards. Which, given that Minsky
Konami doesn't have a standard-style format to move guaranteed units, may literally be what's happening.

Synchros were alright. Definitely changed the game and bumped up the overall power level, but they ultimately did come with meaningful required setup. XYZs were a step down, but at least they mostly just sped the tempo of the game.

But Pendulums? Literally "did you just summon a bunch of monsters in one turn?". The kind of pants on head retarded stuff that people used to make fun of the old Anime for when they literally made the rules up as they went along. And now it's in the game, not as a card combo, not even as a singular card, but as a core mechanic.

YGO at this point is a crude parody of itself.
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>>47644167
>odorously
>fucking Minsky out of nowhere, whatever that is

Hate trying to use a phone keyboard on the bus.
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>>47644167
Dunno mate, I'm playing ABCs right now and having fun. There's like one big pendulum deck per meta the rest are things like Monarchs or Kozmo that don't even know or care what pendulums are.
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>>47643909
>TFW iPhone won't play webms
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>>47641800
As someone who runs a pendulum deck. This is basically summoning in a nutshell if you use Pit/Pulse magician, you can summon all 2-7 level monsters in a shot. I get destroyed by Kozmos and Monarchs every time game 1 then side in 2-3 prohibitions when I learn which set they are playing.
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YGO looks like a fine casual game but I wouldn't dare to dip a toe in its competitive environment.
Also I don't know if that's the case everywhere but where I live the booster packs and starter sets are more expensive and contains less cards than magic packs, so it kinda fails as a casual game too. Sad, I'd like to give it a shot for shit and giggles.
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>>47638409
YGO shold just be scraped back to the original series, summoning dark megicion and dark megicion girl and than arguing with my other 12 year old freinds if i can combain their attacks because that what they did in the show was so much fun, non of that xyz and pendulum shit
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>>47644439
Go fuck yourself, vanilla beat was the worst part of the game and I refuse to go back to it.
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>>47644454
compeared to todays 1 hour combos? I cant even pull off as broken combos in MTG T1
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>>47644473
Bruh, I'm having fun playing dumb shit like hippo-beat, and I won't let you take that away from me just because you have a low salt ceiling.
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>>47644424
It's not bad if you get the super starter sets and such. For $20 you get a complete deck and 4 boosters and last years tins can be had for 15 at toys r us and contain 6 packs. Sure you can spend to the moon if you want, but im competitive for around 50 bucks. 3 structure decks and a couple boosters and you can have a lot of fun.
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>>47644528
Each to their own, but as i said, it's more broken than mtg, i have not played ygo for years and i doubt i will ever go back to it, but when i tryed to go back to it once i bounced off, there was just too much broken shit, too much text in boxes, too many combos which take too long
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>>47644573
But they had to make ways to "break" the game while staying away from the restricted list. It features some of the biggest game breakers I played against back in the early/mid 2000s. I got back into the game after a decade hiatus and it was a shock playing a modified Yugi deck against the new stuff. People wtf'd when I was activating magic hammer and normal summoning Dark Magicians. Got rammed on hard and it was a shocker to my old good tourney deck. However, I still had a great deal of fun playing and also enjoy collecting cards so I threw some cash (60) at it and got a decently competitive deck that supports my Dark Magician fetish. Went to a local tourney yesterday went 2-1-1 and scored 2 packs on a free tourney. The community isn't bad either from what I have seen locally though that may be because it isn't in a large city like LA or Chicago.

On a side note: Fuck people that play Monarch decks. Scum of the earth.
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>>47639044
I thought it was mecha-zapdos from the thumbnail
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>>47644660
What, you don't like Stormforth into Erebus?
>>47644685
It might as well be.
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The main problem with the newer summoning conditions is that it goes against what the game was originally. The game originally (barring pre battle city) was rather slower and took time for you to develop a team to do things. It was something where you had to consider your every move carefully and drawing the right card was a life and death situation. Now, you can summon your ultimate card on turn 1 that also stops other cards from being summoned as well as using any other effects and if you manage to do anything you can now summon another card with the same ability on turn 2. Obviously that would make it a lower market and it can't thrive on it which is why Synchros were a good addition since the early ones were fast paced but not over bearing in the way they worked. In conclusion: The major competitive scene is fucked in general, all online simulators suck since everyone can use every card ever, local scenes are great, and playing with friends using certain rule-sets is the best way to play. Fuck kozmos
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>>47645026
>all online simulators suck since everyone can use every card ever
Why the flying fuck would that be a bad thing?
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>>47645026
The last half has it right on. When playing with friends we revived some house rules (no Marshmallow, full current restriction list, etc) and you can slow a game down quite a bit. My Pendulum deck for example gets played very slowly if I cannot get a scale out by turn 2. Even then, against a good friends Blue Eyes support deck (another slow play deck) he can pull Blue eyes out every time maiden is attacked meaning that meta focuses more on mill summoning and grave retrieval than summoning via pendulum. He uses 1 syncro and no XYZs and still does well at the local games.

And to add to the first half, yes they can get quite a bit out on turn 1, but just like yesteryear, your turn can be as quick or quicker if you drew correctly and have a good magic support to mill the deck.
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>Get invited to play yugioh during lunch
>Haven't played in a decade, get lended a deck
>Get a few minutes of relearning
>Deck plays itself and I just cast whatever I draw with no reason to hold back
>Win on autopilot without feeling good at all

Literally what is the appeal of Yugioh?
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>>47644726
No I really don't. I love playing against pals, Abyss, and Psy-gear though. Psy can mill and cancel well, but you run out of hand too quickly for my tastes. Superheavys are closest to old school imho in the way they have huge defense as their strength as opposed to OP effects. 3500 def can ruin an entire strategy unless you run something that can destroy by removing counters (Arcanite Magician Sync) and even then, they play exhaustion and it defeats it.

Did the game need to be faster? Maybe but while browsing through my old deck, it was very overpowered for the time and still does okay against decks as new as syncro but XYZ and beyond it gets shit on.
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>>47645055
Because of people running 3 Gearfrieds and 3 Butterfly daggers and 3 royal library in an exodia deck. Instant win combo and with card destruction and a couple monster reborns, you never lose. Same as Envoy of the End and infinite cards in the same combo: Put 20 cards in your hand, have 10 between you and your opponent and game over in under 3 turns if drawn right.
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>>47645055
It's more interesting to make a good deck with whatever cards you get out of packs and seeing what you can make with them. The decks definitely won't be top-tier and rather mismatched but it adds a bit of fun to it. That's just my opinion though, I can understand wanting to have every card.

>>47645106
I like trying to do tag duels and three-way duels a lot with my friends. You have to use same generation decks though if you do that since it's a lot easier to get an advantage.
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>>47642014

Sometimes you even get the girl as well.
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>>47645220
CED got errata'd into worthlessness, he's only good for tutorable rank 8 fodder, in fact both envoys are pretty garbo today.
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>>47645260
They can be unless they are played with unlimited rules as stated above. Run it in a sim deck and see how hilariously broken it is. Infinite draws per turn until the final card and you control how far you draw down.
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>>47645260
They can be unless they are played with unlimited rules as stated above. Run it in a sim deck and see how hilariously broken it is. Infinite draws per turn until the final card and you control how far you draw down.
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>>47645220
Do you not know what a banlist is?
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>>47645055
Because as the price of a deck goes up, so does the bullshit.
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>>47645401
Yes. Yes I do. But a lot of the simulators have a no ban mode or run without the ban list period. Duelist network has an unlimited mode but another that I used before was full limitless all the time and games were broken as shit.
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>>47644235
Get VLC player bruh
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Just played it yesterday for the first time in many years thinking it might have improved in some manner. I was wrong of course; the game it total ass.

I could complain about the poor wording, shirty formating, legibility, zone confusion,and awful art but the core of the game is just trash and they somehow fucked that up

The game has no real recouce concept outside of normal summon limits and trap card delays, and hence has no tempo. This could have been corrected in expansions but instead the developers decided to expand the special summon rules. So now instead of slowly building up a force and tributing for more powerful effects you just construct you deck to maximize you special summons and shit out your hand/deck/extra deck asap. In totally uninteresting combos.
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>>47647301
Which is where friends games with special rule sets come in. Like restricting the number of special summons per turn, or using older core rule sets (ala version 2.1-3.0). Or you could exclude/ ban summon types (usually we restrict pendulum summoning and most XYZs with a house restriction list. You can Syncro, but nothing else but fusion from the extra deck).
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>>47647301
You missed the era when Bujins were a non-spam archetype that sat behind a single dude and stopped oppo from going through special summon shenanigans.

That era lasted a whole three expansions before Hirume got released and the Kaiser Coliseum strategy was discarded for more shitty spam summoning. I miss those days.
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>>47638409
Last time I played yugioh was as a teenager, at a weekly tournament thing in the basement of my local comic book store. I immediately got destroyed by a legitimate retard, he couldn't even speak. There was another special person who was in a wheelchair with his head restrained by two metal plate things, and he started eating cards from his deck and his handler person started freaking out trying to get the cards away, so I just left and never played again
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I still fondly remember this shitpost I made during a That Guy thread
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Anyone have that pic of someone taking the flavor text of cards literally?
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>>47647521
>screencapping yourself
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>>47647627
Not him, but I screencap myself all the time, so I don't have to retype same shit all over again when I see another carbon-copy thread.
I even have them labeled by the type of threads, like "elf slave wat do?" etc.
You'd be surprised how often we have the same fucking threads, contents and all.
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>>47645445
Monarchs are literally 3 structure decks taped together and are top meta, and anyways the bullshit is why I even bother with the game.
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>>47647301
Just play fucking barrier statue beat if special summoning gets you that salty.
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>>47647521
>screencapping your own shitty post
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>>47647884
Top for now. They can still be wrecked by Clear Wing and since that's not a limited card, run 3 clear wings and 2 Arcanite and you cant lose to Monarchs. Clear to prevent any effects and Arcanite to use as a card destroyer/xyz fodder.
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>>47647363
Pretty much this, its been said before in the thread but it can't be said enough since people won't bother reading it.

If you're really into the game and like that kind of thing then by all means play competitively. But for a good amount of people it's just stupid. Play with your buddies with your own homebrew rules that allow for better play. That doesn't mean invent a whole new game but just put in custom ban lists or limit to synchros only, no theme decks etc etc. Playing in local tournaments is also pretty good, since they'll use the newer cards but most people aren't going to play top-tier cards all the time especially if they know that most people aren't going to be using those types of cards as well. Hell, I'd play a custom rule-set tourny on DN or something with some anons here for fun.
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>>47643873
>tfw you've ran Metalphosis & Yang-Zing together before
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>>47647674
holy shit this is cringe as fuck
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>>47649303
I'd be in on a custom rule set man. How would we go about that or just an honor system?
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>>47638409
I activate pot of greed. This card allows me to draw two new cards to replace itself, bringing you ever closer to your doom, yugiboy.
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>>47650579
No XYZ, no Pendulum. Fusion and Synchro only.
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>>47650735
I'm down. Fusions and Syncro are fine by me, albeit I play more XYZ than Syncro IRL so id have to adjust to it. Red Eyes deck here I come.
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>>47643599
thats impossible. no one's been able to summon him!
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>>47650735
Anything about Rituals?
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>>47638409
>People still plays YGO up to this date
I feel such a pity for them.
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>>47650866
They're fine. Except that one that banishes shit for free and never dies.
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>>47650579
>>47650735
>>47650810
>>47650947
I'm not sure if it should be synchros only or just no cards past a certain generation. There are some later synchros/fusions/ritual cards that are made specifically to counter newer ones (Monarchs) and over all would have an advantage over anybody using older only decks as I assume some people would do.
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>>47651008
There's only one Monarch I remember who can counter this card & it has to be special summoned.
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>>47651053
Okay, then just use the ban on xyz and pendulum monsters. I just wanted to see how people felt about this since I'm sure some people would gripe.
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I play an energy card.
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>>47643909
>not posting best webm
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>Synchro/Xyz/Pendulum summoning
>complicated

Are you people literal 5 year olds?
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>>47645026
>the main problem with the new

from this opening line alone I can tell that you're a salty oldfag who can neither appreciate nor compete with the newer decks. Get good.
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this screencap represents all of /tg/ and its casualness
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Prepare to get fucked in the ass by Monarchs and Kozmo.

Oh, yeah Fire King too for that matter.

"Buu buu, my game was ruined by the mean XYZ and Pendulum, :("
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>>47651399
No, because 5 year olds can play this game with no problems.
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>"No Synchro/Xyz/Pendulum/Fusions/Effect Monsters/Normal Summoning/LP Damage/Losing"

Casuals are the cancer killing YGO.
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>>47643957
>This is a standard Yugioh game?
Nope, he lucked a first turn hand plus going first so no risk of a Solemn. But yeah, if left unchecked some synchro decks can go nuts.
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>>47651516
I'm pretty sure Konami is the cancer killing Yu-Gi-Oh.
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What the hell is it with the scrub mentality that if you don't know how to use the tools the game gives you or don't like them (Xyz and other ED summons), your opponent just shouldn't be able to do it too?

lmao it's like fighting game scrubs all over again
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>>47650735
>>47650810
im not trying to call you all retarded or anything, but this attempt to make a slower tourny is retarded.
From how you're talking it seems you're tired of turns taking forever from combos, and stupid OP cards, and you're attempting to do this by allowing synchros.
Now, dont get me wrong, i love synchros, but if you're trying to get rid of combo wank and ungodly dumb cards, synchros would be one of the things i'd hit first.
my point being proven by: >>47651385
and >>47643909
I appreciate your attempt, but if you want to make a slow tourney you cant hit mechanics, you have to hit CARDS. since, implying that regular Utopia is more cancerous than Naturia Beast is retarded.
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>>47650947
>Rituals are fine
someone doesnt know about cyber angels, and to a lesser extent Nekroz, and to a lesser extent turbo Gishki.
now THOSE are cancer
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>>47651385
>milled the entire enemy's deck
fucking hilarious
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The only bad part about the latest era of YGO is that everything now can't be targeted or doesn't let the opponent special summon from the extra deck. Dragon Rulers were overpowered as fuck but still their field of threats could be overthrown somehow. And the elemental cycle before that was like it as well.
>tfw you will never pull out a Overworked on a full Fire Fist field

>>47651611
>and to a lesser extent Nekroz
Nekroz was only boring when they decided to play the damned Djinn Lock. Fuck that.
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>>47651618
It was the opponents fault.
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ITT: People who probably think that pic related is a good card.
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>>47651611
I don't know why im lumped in to that anon. I was saying a restriction tourney would be fun. I run a Pendulum deck irl and still get smacked around about 1/3 of the time.
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>>47651647
Aromages
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>>47651656
>restricting is fun
I bet you think boxing would be better if the players were wearing handcuffs.
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>>47651656
what deck?
amorphage?
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>>47651666
even there its not good.
you have no many other ways to gain life points in that deck, it would be better to run one of the dozen mirror forces
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>>47651666
>Target
Might as well run Nutrient Z instead
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>>47651711
Blazing mirror force bro, aromages can take the burn.
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Is this the best designed card ever made?
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>>47643453
Tourney play in a nutshell
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>>47651718

That Weasel card is better since it doesn't destroy, it shuffles and you can control how many monsters your opponent shuffles by paying lp, meaning you can use Humid and Dry Wind better
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>>47651684
Nah just got back in so Odd-Eyes Magician. Extra a Dark Paladin to gain ATK on myself and disable spells. If grave is empty XYZ #38 and start grabbing spell cards. Then XYZ as many as possible to be destroyed for them sweet atk gains.

My wife is building a deck tonight actually, burning abyss, but we are missing a couple Dante's.
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>>47651793
>targets
Nope.
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>>47651803
I said best designed, not most broken.
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>>47651673
>restricting is fun
But is can be, EDH itself is based on a restriction. YGO lacks design space to make something like it.

>>47651711
Yeah I was just kidding. The new lvl 1 tuner is better for instant lifegain, I also like Spell Absorption since all decks need some spells to kickstart their plays.

>>47651793
It was MST before Twin twister usurped the best spell of the game.
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>>47651810
Why would a non-targeting book of moon be broken? Why would it even be good?
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>>47651673
Not saying that but you are comparing apples to oranges. If you think no restrictions is alright then why have a card ban list in the first place? Custom rules are fun man, I love playing 2.5 rules with classic decks with friends as it rekindles memories of a simpler time when all that mattered what "Prohibition Yata Garasu" or "Look I summoned Jinzo so your magic cylinder can get fucked".
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>>47651841
>custom rules are fun

We need a containment board for people like you. /scrubs/ or something similar.
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>>47651825
there are cards that allow you to select the what it affects, but dont technically target
this would be better since a lot of really good cards say "Cannot be targeted".
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>>47651868
It'd be better obviously. But it absolutely wouldn't be broken, and probably wouldn't even be good.
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>>47651841
>why have a card ban list in the first place?
Because cards don't exist in a vaccuum and some card interactions need to be regulated.

Monkeyboard for example is a card that should be banned and never let off the list, having a single card full-scale completely defeats the point of setting the scales being a minusy play.
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>>47651841
>being afraid of magic cylinder

Get a load of this scrublord
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>>47651856
So running classic rules is for scrubs? Is that why MTG has a pauper series for commons only or is that for scrubs too? I'm fine playing any set of rules of the game regardless of what they restrict/dont restrict and I will adapt to that. I got out of a really fun game for a decade and came back to a new world of rules and regs. When I was playing originally, tins, tournament packs, Syncros, and a BAN LIST weren't even a thing. Sure, run 3 Reborns, 3 POG, 3 Exodia sets, Sangan, etc it didn't matter and I'd be glad to see it stay or go because it is the way the game is. If they developed new rules for monopoly preventing you from owning more than 6 properties it would still be fun and I would okay because it is that rule set. Official rules change all the time, especially in TCGs, but nowhere does it state that in personal play you cannot use old rules or your own restrictions.
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>>47651883
It'd be a staple side-deck just for the fact it's generic quickplay removal

A monster that's face down and doesn't have its effects active may as well not be in the field at all
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>>47651856
I really shouldn't respond since >>47651399 posted only 3 new IPS have joined this thread so you're samefagging pretty hard but you're just such a faggot it's not even bearable.
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>>47651920
I'm the samefag. That first guy you're quoting is someone else.
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>>47651917
PoorPoor is absolutely for scrubs, yes.
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>>47651917
Setting artificial restrictions on a 1v1 game is something only scrubs do, yes.
What you're doing is the exact same as banning special moves or combos for local fighting game play sessions.
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>>47651917
There's a reason the banlist came into existence.
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>>47651884
I don't understand your replies. I am talking about being even more restrictive to keep older decks competitive then you say be more lax but just use official Konami sewage that changes colors as its forced into your gullet. Pick a side a stick with it or stop arguing a point that is about a (wait for it) Non-Sanctioned Non-tournament game interaction.
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>>47651841
>making custom rules to bend the game to your scrub level
>thinking no restrictions doesnt just mean play normally and use a banlist according to your deck
I will give you this scrublord, 80% of the TCG banlist is there for show and no longer because they belong there
powercreep. we have it too, but holy fuck card interactions need to be regulated fucker, otherwise you get stuck with 1st turn full hand discards and lock outs.
>>47651892
shut the fuck up and read
>>47651917
placing more restrictions in a game with out the ass restrictions seems redundant
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Get educated scrubs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSBEfJ_j7PQ
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>>47651964
So a friend that wants to play a casual game with the cards he bought 10 years ago vs me with a brand new deck with all the trimmings? Sure lets steamroller him in 3 turns so he wont consider spending some cash to get back into it because of different types of summons and rules. Sure some core cards got support, but what about specific focused decks like Pumking or XYZ Cannon. My pendulum deck shits on my old Spellcaster counter deck.
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>>47652052

this video is better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcn0JID76n8
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>>47652054
If your friend is actually trying to play with a 10 year old deck he deserves to lose.
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>>47651988
keep dreaming fucker. any old deck you come up with would need 100+ additional cards banned to be even remotely good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcn0JID76n8
you guys are just nostalgia fags that never adapted
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>>47652084
oh, we posted the same video. now I feel less accomplished in my shitter stomping
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>>47652107
You don't understand because I didn't refer to my previous posts. I do play the new rules, I run a pendulum deck as of today right now. But it can and is fun to play nostalgia games. I play new PC games as well, but also still play games from the Windows 3.1 era for fun and enjoy them. Sure, it's easier and outdated but enjoyable. Did any friend you have that used to play 10+ years ago and has been out since play against a new deck with you going 100% from the go? Did you find they didn't even have an interest anymore? I had to ease 2 friends into the new rules by running a classic red eyes deck with 3 XYZs added and a single syncro and still ran them over because of Red Eyes Flare Metal. With one, I went full force with my main deck and he lost all the interest he showed in it because he was unwilling to jump in with 30-50 bucks to be competitive with me. Sure, that's not a lot of money and it is what I did, but I am not all of my friends and they have other hobbies as do I. 50 isn't shit to me, but to the one friend I dominated game one, he spent his cash on more ammo for our range day instead and dropped the game altogether, selling me his old cards in the process. Like any community based game, the goal is always to get more, quality gamers involved and running them out the door from the starting bell is not an effective way to do that. It's like being excluded from the in crowd in school or being separate from your group of coworkers, it destroys productivity and morale.
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>>47652326
I don't play with my IRL friends, they're bad at this game and I don't feel like going easy on any of them. None of us played 10 years ago, we all started 2-3 years ago.
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>>47650947
Hope you like Chaos MAX violating your ass then. Or cyber angels first turn herald+sefira+kristya fields.
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>>47652361
>Cyber Angels Herald + Saffira + Kristya field
Yeah, 'cause your shitty ritual deck is soo consistent right?
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>>47652387
you never seen cyber angels mate?
that first turn field isnt too outlandish
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>>47652359
I knew nearly cut myself on your edge.
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>>47652422
>not being a scrub is edge
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>>47652416
I keep wrecking Cyber Angel decks because they either brick too hard or die once you kill their Herald. Cyber Angels can't make unbreakable fields consistently.
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>>47652416
Actually yeah, cyber angels have no trouble pulling that off, they're not nekroz or anything but getting a dead hand is pretty rare.
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>>47652470
Cyber angels > Nekroz

This is a FACT
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>>47652457
>hey look that weirdo guy plays yugioh too, let's see if he wants to have a friendly match
>proceeds to go full meta and 2 turn wins
>Fucking scrubs
>Wow, no wonder he has no friends

I'll be your friend even if you're a massive edgelord, anon.
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>>47652499
I do have friends, plenty of them, but I don't play against them because they actually can't win and I get bored of them. Playing strangers at locals is so much better, especially if I can get them to flip the table in rage.
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Is calling people Scrubs common in all games, or is it just a yugioh thing?
i've only ever heard it in context of yugioh
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>>47652499
>criticizing someone for performing better at a game they like because they invested more money than you in it
is this a thing?
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>>47652525
I do it at friday night magic all the time.
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>>47652525
I've heard it in the context of all competitive games, and all single player games that someone asks for advice on.
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>>47652520
>mfw 90% of the time when people talk like this they either play Ice barrier tier decks or Burn
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>>47652525
Not just games anon, people who do badly at anything get called scrubs.
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>>47652536
It's a scrub thing.
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>>47652520
>Anon goes to local tourny
> first match is against some 12 year old
>Anon goes full out because he has to crush all casual scrubs
>kid cries and runs to his mom
>Wow, anon, you're so good the way you crushed that 12 year old kid
>Piece of cake he was a scrub anyway

>>47652536
>calling people scrubs equals skill
>wanting to have fun sometimes means you're bad
How deluded are you?

>>47652525
All games, sometimes in real life but less so in those.
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>>47638409
>haven't bought YGO cards since GX came out
>friend and I still have decks built out of all oldfag cards
>he runs a water deck built around tornado wall, umi, gravity field?
>I have my classic dragon/fire deck based around cheap fast damage
>never even bothered running new rules
>play vanilla YGO off memory alone
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>>47652612
>implying 12 year olds ever lose

You know they have tourneys just for kids so that they don't beat all the adult players right?
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>>47652612
>Wanting to have fun.

Losing all of the time because you don't have time to learn the game sure sounds like fun :)
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>>47652612
Winning is fun, losing is not.
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>>47652612
>>calling people scrubs equals skill
>>wanting to have fun sometimes means you're bad
>How deluded are you?
i've never said that, this is beside the point
how about you actually reply to my post before going off topic?
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>>47652645
Your dad beat you as a kid for being bad at a sport didn't he?
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>>47652627
Anon refuses to play with his "irl friends" because they're "scrubs". He either has no friends or his "Friends" don't really consider him to be so.

>>47652635
Half the thread is about if two people wanted to stop playing competitively and play with lesser rules only for a different experience and it could be fun. You jumped in and implied they're all terrible and that they just can't understand the newer rules and are scrubs who suck.

>>47652645
Edge

>>47652655
You're implying that me calling him out on calling everyone else scrubs and shit talking in general means that I have lesser skills than him. Nobody ever said they entirely refuse to use the newer cards or don't spend money on it or even they disliked the game, they just wanted to play in a different way outside of a tournament.

Captcha: Select pick-up trucks
>It's all fucking lakes
Guess I'm too scrub for captcha.
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>>47652716
The only thing my dad beat me for was for staying up too late.
If you play a game, you play to win. Nothing else matters.
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>>47652734
Playing outside of tournaments is pointless, and you are bad if you do that.
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>>47652768
Really makes you feel like you're part of the anime, doesn't it?
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>>47652734
>not playing a game with your friends means they aren't your friends

You need to rethink what friendship is.
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>>47652813
Until we get hologram technology and players with the social skills to shit talk during duels we will never have a true anime experience.
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>>47652745
That's not a healthy mind set, I'm mildly worried about you.

>>47652768
How do you even practice, serious question, Mr. shadow the hedgehog.

>>47652824
It's implied his (or yours? I dunno who I'm shit posting with at this point) "Friends" play Yugioh as well but he refuses to play with them because they're scrubs. He pretty much considers them to be below him and not worth his time which is pretty offensive for most people. So ,I doubt they're actually his friends but more just some guys he kinda knows.

>>47652845
That would be a very glorious day.
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>>47652894
You practice at tournaments, obviously.
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>>47652912
You know, I had the thought way earlier when the samefagging started that this was all just bait. But I ignored it, that was a mistake I have been masterfully baited this far. Congratulations I would give you a rare pepe but I'm not on my computer so here's a free (You) as a tip.
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>>47652976
>getting BTFO
>"It's j-just bait, it has to be!"

Loving every laugh
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>>47652768
Why not online? Or just with friends? If I go to even a locals tournament I just go to see what wins I can pull off with wonky/crap decks.

Last was zexal weapon utopia deck I topped with.
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Yugioh the card game never erected me as much as that unrolling dice game he played in one episode. Is that game a thing?
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>>47655368
Yeah. It never got popular enough for continuous support, but it did actually get a release and a video game.
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>>47655527

I play X-Sabers and they're nothing compared to modern decks. They are past their prime. That episode is basically the show being /tg/: years behind the meta. He didn't even infinite loop with Ragigura or set up decent synchros.
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>>47643453

underrated

This is half of my games on Devpro.
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>>47645461
YGOPro and Dueling Network are the only simulators worth noting and both use multiple formats and banlists. You, my friend, are talking out of your ass.
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So can I only pendulum summon other pendulum monsters, or can I pendulum summon any type of monster?

Also, how many pendulums can I play in the pendulum zones each turn, as many as I want or only one per turn until the scale is full?

Also, why did KaibaCorp put all those extra card slots in the duel disk?
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>>47643909
>blackwings
holy fuck
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>>47656061

You can pendulum summon any monsters but some monsters like synchros fusions and other shit have restrictions that don't allow you to just pendulum summon them.
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>>47641800
Pendum Summoning is retarded because its not a legit different for summoning like Synchro or Xyz no its like having gameshark enabled during a duel allowing you to break every rule and summon all sorts of shit all at once ruining the game completely. I wouldnt have minded if Pendulums were individual unique summons but this is just horseshit honestly especially since you cant fucking kill the Pendulum monsters.

What the actual fuck was Konami thinking making Pendulum scales above the number 6?
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>>47656106
Levels refer to stars then I assume?
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>>47656116
Synchros pretty much made tribute summonings obsolete since a plethora of Tuners have effects that are good set up for Synchos. Xyz is more broken because there is no specific card nope LEL TWO LEVEL FOUR MONSTERS AND YOU GET THIS STRONG COOL MONSTER WITH AN OP EFFECT HURR, not that Im complaining of course but Xyz monsters were close to gamebreakers. Pendulums however are legit game breakers since Pendulum monsters say FUCK YOU to every rule regarding monsters in Yugioh
>You destroyed me? No Graveyard for me fag back to the extra deck where I can be summoned over and over muahahahha
>You want to attack me TOO BAD Im in the Pendulum zone you cant touch me faggot and enjoy this army of monsters my powers are gonna cause btw
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>>47656116
>Konami thinking

Nah, anon.
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>>47644439
Just make ritual monsters part of the extra deck to fix them.

Then make a level four monster whos ability is to give you a ritual spell card based on something.

Then you can activate the card once you have two level four monsters in your hand without requiring the goddamn ritual monster card in your hand as well.

If you want more Fusions make them less restrictive to ridiculous levels like

1 spellcaster + 1 warrior

or

1 Fire + 1 Dark
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>>47656217
My main complaint about Xyz's is that they turn every deck into an engine for summoning the same 5 flavor of the month trump cards.

My main complaint with yugioh overall is how almost every new card is geared towards a particular archetype so there aren't nearly as many interesting splash able cards being designed anymore.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KSGUVcNfZM
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>>47656292
>Ritual monsters part of the extra deck

That just makes them fusion monsters with blue borders. What a completely pointless idea.
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>>47656292
Goddess with the third eye already exists, how much more handholding do you need?
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>>47656301
You would have seen the same thing if trap cards couldnt be activated the turn a monster is tribute summoned though, Synchros and Xyz are literally what Tributes are supposed to be. Most of the time Tribute summoning while your opponent has at least ONE CARD in their back row is suicidal since you have no clue what that trap card could be. Double tribute summoning is bad resource management and Synchros and Xyzs are easier to pull out in comparison.
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>>47643599
that would be absolute merry hell to do if you were a world class magician. Just enter a fucking tourney with the basic yugi deck and such mad cheating skills nobody can prove shit and just start shouting about the heart of the cards
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>>47656345
That card is shit because its not that flexible really, filling your deck with that crap is bad deck planning honestly. You are better off saying screw the rules and creating fusions that can be spawned from basically anything.
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In canon wouldnt Pendulums be the most powerful beings in the card game since they screw the game rules itself?

I mean fucking Obelisk a god can be raped by a trap card and sent to the graveyard but Pendulums are literally immortal.
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>>47656455
Plenty of cards can revive themselves.
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>>47650735
You're shit. The best decks right now would be fine with such a restriction.
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>>47656455
>In canon wouldnt Pendulums be the most powerful beings in the card game since they screw the game rules itself?
Yes, this already happened in the anime
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>>47656455
Obelisk is nothing but a 4k beat stick that can't be targeted, but requires 3 tributes. It was never good. Neither are Slifer or Ra.
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>>47656486
Yes but Pendulums dont go the graveyard nor can be removed from play they are literally unstoppable.
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>>47656497
Slifer is good as long as you get him out in a really shenanigans way that doesnt need much put into it.
being able to take out their stepping stones to larger monsters is pretty effective
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>>47656497
In canon Obelish is incredible powerful magical entity this means that the magic that controls spell and traps is stronger than the one regarding magic because spell and traps can kill anything EXCEPT PENDULUM MONSTERS.
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>>47656509
>nor can be removed from play
>opponent pendulum summons 5
>activate Bottomless Trap Hole
>win

You're not even trying to be good at this game.
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>>47656509
>nor can be removed from play
Nigger what are you on?
you can banish them same as anything else
for fucks sake, when they die all pendulum touch the graveyard, that means if you have anything like a macro cosmos out they dont go to the extra deck, they get banished
please actually learn how the game works before bitching about it.
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All this talk about Pendulum has got me wondering what the new summoning method will be in the next 2 maybe 3 years?

I wonder what the requirements will be because Pendulum though they make hand vomit possible are a pretty unique concept, I have no idea what can top Pendulums.
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>>47656509
>They can't be removed from play
Stop being so shit.
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Lets all be honest Bottomless Trap Hole needs a ban ASAP .
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>>47656637
um
no?
its hardly really ever used, even against pendulum decks i rarely ever see it.
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>>47656650
But ruins my summons so its needs to so ASAP along with Heavy Storm.
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>>47656650
This. Anti-Spell Fragrance is much more broken against Pendulums.
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>>47638409
I just want this image larger.
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>>47656292
Pre-preparation of Rites defeats that entire concept anon...
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>>47656668
Stop reminding me. Played a guy that ran 3 just to fuck pendulum decks. Had all three out in a single hand..... I still have nightmares
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>>47639044
activate wobaku.
my turn
I activate soul charge to summon 2 level 4
now i xyz summon no.39 utopia and cxyz evolve him into c39 utopia ray, now I'll use rank up magic astral force to summon utopia beyond, activate rank down numeron fall to summon another no.39 utopia and shining evolution him into utopia prime (rank 4), now I activate RUM barians force him into utopia ray v, now i'll use one last rank down numeron fall to chang him into utopia roots. and now I activate my two traps dna surgery and dna transplant to make roots a dark zombie, now I activate my last RUM astral force to summon Ghostrick alucard and I'll use him to summon ghostrick angel of mischief, and using her I'll do it again.
she has 10 materials
gg no re
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>>47656546
>touch the graveyard
they actually don't, but judges are retarded.
it clearly say in the rule book "instead" which with every other instance means the first out come never happened.
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>>47658302
well nigga thats the ruling, and it doesnt look like its getting reversed.
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>>47656116
ever heard of bottomless trap hole?
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>>47658329
well at least till konami gets around to errating that ruling onto the old cards
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>>47638409
How much is Yugioh actual strategies, meta, and Ham?

What's the ratio?
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>>47658400
Yugioh is a big part meta, lots of decks aren't very viable when you look at win/loss ratio's because some decks just preform better with the tools they have access to, but if you have a solid well built deck you can make a rogue deck or a deck that is very unique quite powerful (this all keeping in mind that 90% of Yugioh meta is heavily archtype based). If you are going to look at it from a non-bias standpoint it all comes down to luck, reading your opponent's moves and timing your effects to disrupt and counter what your foe is trying to achieve. The weakest decks out there can topple the $300+ decks with just a little luck and good use of their cards.
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>>47658448

Yeah which is good since im never playing anything but Madolches again
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>played yugioh competitively back when Ultimate Ancient Gear Golem was a thing
>come to this thread to see if things have improved since all that "XYZ" 4 star creatures are the best thing ever bullshit
>somehow things are worse
Does anyone unironically play yugioh? I get it, some magic nerds probably bullied you when you were young, but that doesn't justify this T1 OTK bullshit.
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>>47659091
I play it, the new support for older stuff has reignited my love for the game. Cyber Angels is a fun as fuck ritual deck and there's actually viable synchro decks nowadays.

I would never fucking play the game competitively, but playing with friends and just randoms online is pretty enjoyable.
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>>47658400
It's less "strategic" and more "reactive". You have to plan your move as you make it, anything you intended to do at the start of your turn could be ruined by any number of traps, so you'll need a plan A, B, C, D and E.
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Most broken card?
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>>47660723
Not that broken, less broken than pendulum summons.
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>>47658611
>Madolches

Fuck yeah what a fun meta to play. Love my Madolches deck.
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>>47658611
>Madolches

My nigga. Shiranui and Madolches are my jam.
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>>47660723
Well its a knock off so yes.
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>>47652084
>trying to defend netdecking
God, this guy is the equivelent of the 50 year old MTG player with a T1 deck, telling everyone to get gud, even though his combos only work because his cards are broken as shit.
>you have to desinge your deck around the net decked deck for the next torney
No, you dont, you just use a allredy existing deck that counters the new one, torney decks are usualy built around countering what is in the meta now, you fight it by using a uncommon deck
>literlly defending pay to win
Ach, so the rich guy is better because he can afford a better deck?
Competetive format is literal cancer killing TCGs. Every competition shold just be a draft to see who can build good decks, not to see who can check the internet to find a combo B that counters combo A
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>>47661002
Hobbies cost money poorfag.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay_S8NjPEXk
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>>47661002
At least for MTG, half or more of the protour is draft. Does Yugioh have a draft mode? I would think that the way the cards are designed for specific other cards would make that really tough.
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>>47661706
Battle Packs were a try at drafting and sealed play, and they worked p well. But expansions are 70% of the time unplayable in draft.
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>>47660723
That card can easily be banished or returned to hand.
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>>47661819
That sounds like a shame. Nothing more cozy than drafting a box with your friends. Except when its absolute dogshit
Fuck you MM2
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>>47642012
underrated post
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>>47650735
>no XYZ
Fuck out of here.
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>>47650735
>Blue-Eyes are the best deck in the OCG
>implying they need Xyz or Pendulum to wreck face
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>>47656455
I thought Pendulums were super OP when I started getting into yugioh again earlier this year, but as it turns out they're really not even good. Literally destroy one end of the pendulum and if they can't replace it with a decent scale, they end up with a bunch of high level monsters in their hand they can't summon and just sort of crap out.
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>>47662094
MOON!
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>>47662024
Most Pendulum decks aren't even good. We have a bunch of Pendulum archetypes that are shit.

Performapals, Dracoslayers, and now Metalfoes are the only really broken Pendulum things. Everything else is okay.
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>>47638409
Could we play Sentinels instead?
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>>47661860
>Nothing more cozy than drafting a box with your friends.
My playgroup did that with a box of Battle Pack, it's basically designed for that. There's even editions that are ready for 8-persons draft and comes with a playmat with art from one of the cards as a prize for 1st place.
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>>47662138
That's the thing. Most strong Pendulum decks are strong for how they work, not the mechanic itself. Nekroz weren't formerly strong because of Ritual summoning (though the Djinn were a huge bonus help).
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>>47662289
I agree, but pendulum decks with pic related still make me salty
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>>47662289
Exactly.

I don't think the Pendulum mechanic itself is broken. There's plenty of ways around it. It's the same problem YGO always has with broken archetypes, not mechanics.
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>>47662024
>if I remove the main driving force of the deck it collapses!
No shit but Pendulum is horrible because its overcentralize the meta even worse than Xyz monsters which was something once considered impossible.
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>>47662800
>overcentralize the meta

u wut m8?
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>>47662800
Except the meta isn't over-centralized right now.

Well, I can't speak for TCG, but in OCG you have tribute decks (Monarchs), Xyz decks (Rank 3 stuff like Speedroids and Burning Abyss), Pendulum stuff (Mainly Metalfoes and their variants), and Synchro stuff (Blue-Eyes) all running the meta. There's nothing centralized about that.

Even in TCG I'm pretty sure that Monarchs and Kozmo are running things, and they're not Pendulum based.
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YOU JUST ACTIVATED MY TRAP CARD
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