Magic: The Gathering Modern General
(competitive discussion)
>Playing?
>Brewing?
>Next MTG Purchase?
GP Charlotte and GP Los Angeles this weekend.
Thoughts on the current Modern Metagame?
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Current Modern Metagame
What are your thoughts on Chinese counterfeit cards?
>>47347248
Ordered some last week. Hoping to play them in tourneys
>>47347248
Making modern great again
>>47347248
got some recently, indistinguishable in double sleeves.
>>47347248
Don't need them, own every card I need :)
>>47347248
Lazy but it beats just printing out paper and saying you own that card like someone in my group.
>>47347095
>Playing
Affinity because it was relatively cheap for me to acquire
>Brewing
Its modern, everyone just copies top decks anyways with maybe 2-3 jank additions.
>Next MTG PurchaseEDH stuff
>>47347248
It's fine. As long as someone's not trying to sell/trade them away as legit, I have no problem playing against or with counterfeits.
>Mana Tithe in modern
>Force Spike still MIA
Come on Wizards.
>>47347248
Just dont trade them for real cards
>>47347248
Wann to order some but after the stoneman disaster I'm hesitant.
>>47347258
Please keep us updated how it worked out.
>>47347389
Where did you order from? Pics?
>>47347095
>Playing
Jund
>Brewing
Reanimator
>Next purchase
Playset of deltas
>>47347248
When cardboard sees its price inflated to literal hundreds of dollars, counterfeits become a necessary evil just to make the game affordable.
>>47347248
Lazy and for plebes. Even a burgerflipper can buy into a Modern deck.
>>47347966
Youre supposed to use creatures anon, judges familiar is close enough and much fairer. Stop trying to opress your opponents.
>>47348365
>Implying that the people who pay more for something they can get at a fraction of the price are the lazy plebs
If I buy counterfeits, I can very likely get two or three dozen decks or more for the price of a single "real" deck, and no one will notice or care enough to notice.
>>47348383
I never get tired of baneposting for whatever reason.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm19523064
how many boxes of eternal masters should i get
>>47348621
Two just to be safe
>>47347095
I did a cube draft recently. Black-green spider lifegain deck is now our groups in joke meta, along with zombie fish
>>47348637
sounds good thanks bro, just ordered them
>>47347095
>Jund
>Gifts, BTL, Loam, can't seem to get anything good enough to work.
>Some more fringe sideboard cards to test
>>47347248
As long as you aren't trading/selling them as the real thing, I don't really mind.
Modern still has the largest pool of random brews and rogue decks, I still get to play something new every once in a while.
Making a NB budget Burn deck. Do I need Grim Lavamancer? If I don't I can go Mono red color base. I want to splash white later.
Fuck why are fetches so expensive.
Goblin Guide also what the FUCK. I need good fakes ASAP. Usually I can buy a card at a time. FUCK.
>>47349006
Bloodstained mire and wooded foothills aren't expensive at all. Even the good version.
>>47349006
Why would Grim Lavamancer prevent you from going mono-red? Fetches give it extra fuel, sure, but even without them it's still turning your previously used burn spells into Shocks.
>>47349105
I dunno. People tell me not to use him if not running fetches.
>>47349370
Sounds dumb. Post your list so far?
>>47349370
If you're also running Searing Blaze, use fetches.
>>47349393
This will be the final list but without the fetches and goblin guide because fuuuuuck.
4 Arid Mesa
2 Bloodstained Mire
4 Boros Charm
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel
4 Goblin Guide
2 Grim Lavamancer
4 Lava Spike
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Lightning Helix
4 Monastery Swiftspear
3 Mountain
4 Rift Bolt
3 Sacred Foundry
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Searing Blaze
1 Shard Volley
2 Skullcrack
2 Stomping Ground
2 Wooded Foothills
1 Ancient Grudge
3 Deflecting Palm
4 Destructive Revelry
3 Kor Firewalker
3 Path to Exile
1 Smash to Smithereens
>>47349562
Might want to consider Atarka's Command for the mainboard, and almost certainly Molten Rain for the sideboard. If you're running 4 Destructive Revelry, you probably don't need Smash or Ancient Grudge either.
>>47348621
>how many should i get
>many should
>should
You mean 'can'? Like it's printrun will be large enough to actually hit LGS shelves.
>>47347095
>>>Playing?
Grixis Control, Faerie Jank, Prison
>>Brewing?
Flicker deck with mainboard Hallowed Moonlight.
>>Next MTG Purchase?
Thought-Knot Seers and Eldrazi Temples
Rate my autist deck
>>47349925
why big daddy jace?
>>47349946
Assemble the Legion as MB Finisher? That's some jank tech right there.I like it
>>47349954
Wishful thinking.
Playing uw titan control at gpla. I could play better decks but the heart wants what the heart wants.
>>47349974
A friend of mine lost to AtL in a gpt top 8. Not many decks can deal with it easily especially mainboard.
>>47347248
>What are your thoughts on Chinese counterfeit cards?
Glad I can put everything together so that I don't have to resort to that.
Also, fuck anyone trying to pass them off as real. Anyone doing that should get stabbed.
>>47350345
>YOU GOT YOUR PIECES OF CARDBOARD FROM THE WRONG PLACE, YOU DESERVE TO DIE
This is what mental illness looks like.
>>47349946
Resto-Kiki is one of my favorites. I played it about a month ago.
>>47350358
Oops. I meant: Fuck anyone trying to pass them off as real in a trade. Anyone doing that should get stabbed.
>>47347248
Lets me play all the Tier 1-3 decks for less than the price of legit Jund, so I fucking love it.
If WotC had less cancerous business practices, I wouldn't at all mind buying their product. That isn't the case.
>>47350384
True, I've got one Underground Sea that's fake that I only use for playing Legacy at my LGS, but I wrote 'proxy' with a sharpie on the back so it would never end up in some poor schmuk's collection if I suddenly died or something.
>>47350418
Where do you get good fakes? I tried that one Asian dude and this is what he sent me as his best
I'm willing to pay real money for cards as long as it's not silly expensive. Goblin Guide is silly expensive.
>>47348621
None. Buy a good box, like MM1. Or don't be a dumbass and buy singles instead.
>>47350820
>yfw you wrote on the wrong one
>>47351622
How would he do that? The fakes are obvious :^)
>>47351721
Lol. It's true. I tried ordering these fakes at 3.75 a pop and they look so hilariously bad. These wouldn't fool anyone.
>>47347248
I've ordered from each of the stores on AliExpress, and the most believable one is Best Shopping Centre. They're less plastic-y and the color is much better.
I've put some of them in KMC Perfect Fit sleeves, so people are less likely to feel the actual card, and traded them. Pretty good bang for the buck.
>>47347095
>Playing?
valakut
>Brewing?
Ad Nauseaum, modern; lands, legacy
>Next MTG Purchase?
counterfeits
Anyone got a solid enchantress decklist for modern?
>>47352174
That anon made one, then disappeared.
>>47351979
Counterfeits are so common here any card over 40 dollars and all fetch lands are taken out for testing even during casuals. It's really lame. I hate my scene. 99% of the time they can't decide if it's fake or not and hold a grudge, or if it's deemed fake that player is banned from the store for life. Fuckin' nerds.
>>47352269
>so common here
where is that?
>>47350885
You're just poor. No need to make excuses.
>>47347248
just bought some from based CHINAMAN Villa should be coming here monday c:
>>47352586
the only card i regret spending decent money on are goblin guides. Anon is right they are silly expensive.
Sideboard to the left of the tokens.
>>47347095
Nice op
Most fun card in modern
>>47347095
Been playing reanimator (basically grishoal without the combo, added blue), UR delver and Soul sisters which is pretty good in my store's meta. Not a lot of tron, collected chord and affinity everywhere.
I'd be surprised if more than 1 or 2 copies of jeskai crack the top 8's this week.
Why do this women try to ban my lewd playmats?? Why do they have to oppress me? FUCKING NORMIES RUINING MY GAME REEEEEEEEEEEE
https://pokeinthe.io/2016/05/19/offensive-playmats-in-magic/
>>47353506
It's offensive that you'd let Atago get that hurt you shit grat ttk
Can someone explain to me how in the hell Death and Taxes is tier 2? The deck just seems bad to me. The deck has a bad matchup to anything aggro, and it's missing like half the things that makes D&T good in legacy. Whats the decklist for it nowadays?
>>47353506
Honestly, this article was reasonable and well-written. I went in expecting the worst, and it wasn't too bad.
>>47353506
I know and expect there to be a level of social disconnect when I go to play a ccg with other grown men, but how often have you seen lewd shit like this at your lgs or events? Do weeaboos really have no shame?
>>47353743
On the one hand it does read like someone who places actual rules and regulations ahead of feels, which is good. It stands in stark contrast to the arguments a lot of the saltier players/bloggers on both sides sling around. On the other hand she's still getting a bit too far into "know it when I see it" territory in what constitutes "offensive", particularly given how vague the direction Judges get on this topic is.
Good taste in playmat choices thought.
>>47353896
A lot of them are socially defunct. They'll think that shit is fine and and if you ask them about their mat they'll sperg and start blabbing about their favorite animoo and who is best girl and which girl is shit
>>47348365
my legacy infect deck cost 30 bucks so I mean, It depends where you stand on your deck making skills, Makes me want to go to cardkingdom and wipe some fatties with it. you can win turn one with 15 damage infectMy captcha was cherrypie
>>47354037
Explain the turn 1/share decklist?
>>47354046
if the tread is still up I will post the full list as the cards at at my house and I am at the APT but it's mono green, with stuff like invigorate and vines of vastwood
I need to update the buff spells abut it runs Glistner Elf Ichor Claw Myr and Elvish Spirit guide for ramp
blinkmoth nexus and stuff, Mostly I fiegn mana ramping to make the opponent think I am setting up board but usually It's 1-3 lands one creature and 2 ramp spells
trample 10/10 infect at turn 3 will make you concede pretty fast.
Also the Phyrexian buff spells like mutagenic growth are very important to pulling as you are going to use your life in exchange for 4 of them and you've won
>>47354129
I can't edit my post so Sorry for the double
Hexproof booties are really important for haste and hexproof too by the way
>$50
why didn't you buy her, /tg/?
also, get ready to SELL if she wins either GP this weekend.
>>47354436
because I don't gamble on Hasbro's Dollar.
accept you have lost money playing magic, just have fun dude.
>>47354436
>sell
no thanks, i want to play with the card instead of trying to jew out shecklez.
>>47354436
But I did. I got her when she was $10 like any sensible human being.
I also said she'd win a GP and reach $50 in one of these threads a while back.
I got laughed at.
>>47354554
yeah, someone did say that here
>>47354554
it's always like that, Pull cards people are following the popular opinion on and then don't think about the cards or even attempt to incorporate them into the meta instead they are left for the theory crafters and magic heads in the back rooms. then the Prices Go up but Only after the cards have suffered sufficient neglect will they be recognized as useful cards.
>>47354554
>I also said she'd win a GP and reach $50 in one of these threads a while back.
I've been spamming jeskai nahiri for a month and all these chumps laughed at me.
where are they now? probably buying nahiris for the gp.
>>47348138
what was the "Stone man disaster"
>>47353990
i had this playmat custom made for a long time
have not found a better custom made playmat for mtg
help?
>>47349562
4 bloodstained mire
4 wooded foothills
2-4 arid Mesa
There is no valid reason to run scalding tarns on a budget
>>47353896
Shame about what? Liking a cartoon? I play against people with waifu sleeves and lewd playmats in several card games and they tend to be the be the best opponents: courteous, well-mannered, and most of all fun. I realize this isn't everyone's experience but it's kind of ridiculous to me to shame people for no other reason than they like some Chinese cartoons from the 30s.
>>47354882
It's the overtness of the otherwise inherent sexuality in anime. It's one thing to have weeb sleeves like shown, but the bounds of societal decorum (I would argue) become somewhat infringed on when panty-clad pussylips are the most prominent thing on the sleeve or playmat. And I say this as the grown ass man weaboo prodigy of my lgs.
>>47354882
"I jack off to anime drawings" is usually not the first thing you say to someone. You bring waifu shit, that's the first thing you're telling people.
>>47354975
>not watching christian anime - in the year of Our Lord, 2016.
>>47354975
Maybe that's just how you feel because you're projecting your own insecurities and prejudices on them :^)
>>47354966
If it's basically porn then I understand, but I've never seen anything that sexual myself, the worst being girls in lingerie or suggestive poses and I don't see that as any weirder than pinups. Guess I've just got a good community.
>>47355080
I'll get a playmat with a gaped asshole on it then. Tell me how comfortable that makes you feel.
I don't really care about Moeshit sleeves and mats, but they give me the worst secondhand embarrassment
>>47351822
Post pics. I keep seeing relatively good fakes but nobody who claims to have bad fakes ever posts pictures.
>>47348702
We both in the two box club, my friendo works for starcity and is grabbing me two
>>47355135
>secondhand embarrassment
fremdscham
It's a good word.
>>47352174
I run this shit.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/20-03-16-yOl-prison/
Needs to be modified for your meta, obviously.
>>47355294
I've got some horrible fakes.
The biggest problem is the color. Secondly, they feel like a poker card, or regular playing card. The thickness is only notable (bigger) if you're looking for it.
Some of the better ones I play with are still off, but look convincing on their own.
>>47353990
Love this nigga's art.
>>47353506
I don't hate your playmat because it's lewd or tasteless. I hate it because it looks like shit.
>>47355135
People with sleeves of anime girls embarrass you? Maybe you need to get some thicker skin.
>>47355584
I love how the moist pussy lips in the thumbnail look like a gaped butthole due to the shading
If I used "Cameltoe Chandra" or "Nissa & Tentacles" sleeves, would it be considered more acceptable or less acceptable for being MTG characters?
>>47353990
Agreed, kinda. I feel like they need to set down some more concrete rules about what can get sleeves/boxes/mats banned. On the other hand, I feel like a lot of people just need to stop being such victimized shitheads and get some thicker skin.
Don't have a problem with anime or hentai
But even g-rated anime images in your sleeves or deck box would bother me, because a not insignificant part of my enjoyment of magic is the aesthetic of the art
You're polluting that with garish images that clash stylistically with magic
It's not a big deal and I would never complain about it in real life but I don't see how people have such shit taste
>>47356406
>liking modern mtg art
>calling others' taste shit
Wew lad
>>47353896
>Do weeaboos really have no shame?
The average normal person will look into a LGS, and not think 'wow, those MLP people are sooo much more nerds than the people playing with dragons and princesses who are sooo much less cool than those guys with the little robots'. They will think 'wow, look at all those weirdos hanging with kids on a friday night'.
You should get your false sense of superiority because your weird autistic shameful hobby isnt any better than someone elses.
>>47356406
What's it like, living with autism?
>>47356621
No, mate, I am a weeb though. I'm just not some platinum level akihabara gaijin weeb.
>>47355135
>they give me the worst secondhand embarrassment
Is it this easy to tilt people? brb buying anime sleeves, mat, deckbox, and shirt.
>>47356406
if you'd ever taken a drawing class, let alone anatomy for artists, you'd know that the mtg artists ain't really that great
>>47356656
That's why I bought em. That and I figured: if im going to get back into a geeky hobby, why not be true to my real inner/whole geek self
>>47356649
>I'm just not some platinum level akihabara gaijin weeb.
see, this is what I meant by
>You should get your false sense of superiority
>>47356683
It's not a sense of superiority. It's just that I'd never have a dripping panty-clad pussy on my playmat.
No highly functioning person has big ol' pussylips on their mat.
>>47356744
Why not?
>>47356744
Im talking about weeb mats in general, not porn-tier. I would say >>47353506 is reaching that.
>>47356071
where can one buy these?
Honestly, I would rather play against ten weaboos with waifu playmats on national television than a brony with a pony sleeves.
Deep down I know that they're both terrrible and one is no better than the other, but the sense of revulsion bronies give me is exponentially stronger.
I don't even hate the show, just the fans.
![[SallySubs] Barakamon - 05 [BD 720p AAC] [391FE157].mkv_snapshot_10.55_[2016.05.12_06.53.18].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/H0Ba6g6.jpg "[SallySubs] Barakamon - 05 [BD 720p AAC] [391FE157].mkv_snapshot_10.55_[2016.05.12_06.53.18].jpg")
>>47356656
Don't forget to play burn and make sure the opponent knows you only won because you toddecked exactly what you needed. 90% tilt chance.
>>47355584
It's probably my favorite bit of MtG related art, up there with pic related. The traditional/faux-traditional style makes most things look great.
>>47356180
I'd be fine with "no gore, nothing explicit". I think most people would be.
>>47356789
I have no problem with weeb mats or sleeves, considering I sport both of them.
It's porn-tier fapbait that's objectionable to me.
>>47356804
>I don't even hate the show, just the fans.
only played one guy with pony sleeves/mat and he was a nice guy and a good player. but my opinion is all nerdy things are at the same level of 'nerd' from outside anyway so dont care.
>>47348138
He probably ordered from Villa Zheng.
Where do you guys purchase your counterfeit cards? I mainly just wanna play shitbrew decks at my FNMs but I can't without them looking at least slightly legit.
>>47356910
>Everyone has to abide by my moral standards!
Sure is disgusting normie in here
>>47351899
Yeah I'd like being able to trade them away as well. I'll just have to see how my order from based chinamen comes out.
What do you guys think of my (wildly generic) burn deck?
Creatures (14):
4 Goblin Guide
4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 Eidolon of the Great Revel
2 Grim Lavamancer
Spells (27):
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Rift bolt
4 Lavaspike
3 Shard Volley
4 Boros Charm
4 Lightning Helix
4 Atarka's Command
Lands (19):
3 Arid Mesa
4 Wooded Foothills
3 Bloodstained Mire
3 Sacred Foundry
3 Stomping Ground
3 Mountain
Sideboard (15):
4 Destructive Revelry
3 Anger of the Gods
2 Deflecting Palm
2 Kor Firewalker
2 Molten Rain
2 Ensnaring Bridge
>>47357094
its a burn deck, good job.
>>47356656
It seems like you don't know what "tilted"means. Getting turn 1'd two games in a row is tilting. The feeling is "anger"
Seeing someone with "I can't go within 1,000ft of a school" sleeves makes me feel bad for them. The feeling is "embarrassment"
>>47357094
4 Helix maindeck seems like a lot but it depends on your meta. If they have lots of combo or control it's less good but if your meta is aggro, that and bridge is nice.
Personally I'd go 2 Helix 2 Searing Blaze
I'd take out the bridges and an anger, and I'd add 2 Skullcrack and a Relic
>>47357094
Running all those shocks, I might add a Wild Nacatl. Just one or two.
>>47357187
>The feeling is "anger"
or frustration, or second hand embarrassment whatever your calling it m8. your still upset enough by some cartoon tiddys your arguing on a random imageboard about them.
>>47356995
The real trick, depending on from whom you ordered, is placing them in those real tight fitting sleeves. I usually ship mine out with some real cards; and last time I was ballsy by placing a real and a fake in the same order. But it worked out.
Anyways, people on pucatrade are idiots, and people in person are even dumber.
>>47357309
I'm just trying to help some autistic people understand that other people thinking that you're a pedophile is not worth "tilting" someone.
Seriously, imagine if a coworker saw your naked preteen playmat. How do you think they react?
>>47357433
I have it on my phone and work in a industry of weebs and autists. It would end in a shift of waifu wars.
dont really give a shit, like most people after a certain age.
>>47357433
>being this upset by drawings
I want mentally deficient moralfags to go away. You've already derailed the thread enough.
>>47357468
So which industry are you guessing is full of weebs?
Kids say the darndest things.
>>47357561
>So which industry are you guessing is full of weebs?
>guessing
try almost anything tech/web related.
I should bring my CIA sleeves.
>>47357643
Lol
>>47357660
Do you think hes a big guy under those slacks?
I wish show and tell was reprinted so it would be legal in modern.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70cbNJrs2Xw
This is a fake that i've tried to make more realistic through wear and tear
>>47357983
>turn 3 Emrakul using a single card
>turn 3 Newlamog using a single card
>turn 3 Worldspine Wurm using a single card
>turn 3 Progenitus using a single card
>etc etc etc
No thanks.
>>47357983
I would like it too, but you see, there are crybabies like >>47358103 that don't know what mana leak is. the only way i see it dangerous is with a hand of 2 simian spirit guides, an island,show and tell, and emrakul
>>47358128
You're right anon, lets reprint the power 9 too!
>>47358143
i'm not against that
Rate my blue sideboard advice welcome no bully
1 Pithing Needle
1 Torpor Orb
1 Grafdiggers Cage
1 Spellskite
1 Commandeer
1 Negate
1 Spell Pierce
1 Dispel
1 Spell Snare
1 Rapid Hybridization
1 Sea's Claim
1 Spreading Seas
1 Hurkyls Recall
1 Gigadrowse
1 Engulf the Shore
deck is Turns
>>47358152
I'm not against everything being reprinted. Fuck the collectors, let them cry and pretend they have a case for suing JotC over it. Put them in a special from the vault or something you can order directly from their site that has playsets of everything in it, force LGSs not to kike it up to keep making money off their game.
Of course nothing like this will ever happen so it's all just circle jerking.
>>47358376
Maybe you shouldn't play a collectible card game
>>47358376
I'm fine with any card in the game getting reprinted, I'm not fine with every card being legal in Modern. Some cards sure, but the obviously busted shit (Power 9, Show and Tell, Tinker, Original Dual Lands, stuff like that) needs to stay out.
>>47358406
Not that guy, but imho it's expected for things to be pricey.
I do think that WotC needs to do some proactive steps to make the game more affordable though. You can do reprints at the same time as unbans to avoid price spikes, preemptively reduce the hikes instead of unbanning a 20$ card and causing the price to double.
10$ FNMs are also a nice treat, and generally it doesn't hurt the price of the card. Last good one was Serum Visions, it was a real treat and a step in the right direction. Fucking Blighted Fern is horsecocks. and while I do like Spacial Contortion, they should really focus on printing FNMs of cards that aren't in the newest set.
>>47358487
I would like to see more reprints, but I am glad that wotc is trying to do it without tanking prices.
The "reprint everything now" people tend to not have collections, so they ignore how ruining the collectibility of the game might be a huge drawback
>>47358406
Why not? I own the cards I want, but I can't get my friends into the game or ever recommend it because of the cost. If it were lower I could have more people to play with and maybe even break into formats I don't play already.
you guys ready for my latest modern funbrew
i did this one around spellweaver helix
>>47358427
Which is why I said in a from the vaults or something, a supplementary set with a full printing run and affordable prices (comparatively) that would bloat supply and drop deck costs by a couple hundred across the board.
>>47358688
Play on XMage
>>47358664
Fuck the collectors. Magic is a game, a good game at it's core, but it's being hamstrung by "muh collectors", and Mark "The Nose" Rosewater who seems more interested in collecting his kickback from third party distributors than making sure the game stays healthy.
>>47358664
Go collect coins if you want a collection of things worth thousands of dollars. MTG is a card game and prices as high as they are only hurt the game.
This is coming from someone who has already spent thousands on cards. I want more people to play and to play the deck they want instead of some shit cheaper deck they resorted to.
>>47358688
You clearly don't enjoy the collectible nature of the game. You think of cards you buy as a loss rather than an area where your money is tied up. Try playing draft or sealed with your friends.
>>47358664
Im not even talking about them producing many reprints; they just really need to stop fucking up so much and stop it from become MORE expensive.
They promised an Inquisition reprint, twice I think, and literally backed out because it's not "devoid". Now the card is worth more than Thoughtseize, and cheap decks like 8rack are no longer cheap.
lands are expensive as fuck (expeditions helped a bit), pretty much everything is expensive as fuck
Good FNM promos help this alot, you basically get people trading in their copies for foil versions, which frees up some copies for non-foilers.
>>47358740
Xmage is a piece of shit.
>>47358830
The fuck off and cry about your friends being poorfags somewhere else, you stupid cocksucker.
>>47358819
>buy our shitty drafychaff boosters, Battle for Zendikar(tm)! Spend lots of money on shit commons, with innovative mechanics such as Cohort(tm) and Process(tm)!
>>47358819
so much fun collecting a shitton of vanilla creature commons that I will never use in any deck ever. surely this is some money well spent.
>>47358819
The problem is, the mentality that logically follows from the cards being considered somewhere money is just "tied up" is "why can't i make money off the secondary market?" which is a truly cancerous mentality that actively ruins every format and, of unchecked, will kill the game.
Plus limited formats aren't as fun as constructed to me and my friends.
>>47358103
Implying its not possible with mana dorks and luck on unexpected results
>>47358903
Looks like I hit a nerve. Go back to your shitty java bloatware, faggot.
>>47358995
>not playing cockatrice
inb4 you fuckin chickens start clucking >cuckatice kekekekek
it's really the best program out of the 3
>>47358712
Spellweaver Helix funbrew is a go
this is basically retrace loam spellweaver
21 LANDS
basically a 4 color land package with fetches/shocks and running
2x academy ruin
2x buried ruin
NONLANDS
4x Spellweaver Helix
4x Flame Jab
4x Raven's Crime
4x Faithless Looting
4x Glimpse the Unthinkable (open to replacement)
4x Life from the Loam
3x Serum Visions (considering replacing with Manamorphose)
4x Hedron Crab
4x Simian Spirit Guide
1x Sorin's Vengeance
4x Time Stretch
basically you can go off naturally on turn 4. spellweaver a spell that can discard lands to recast and go off forever with loam. without the combo you can still snipe low health creatures with flame jab and you can still loam raven's crime engine to keep down hand sizes.
the sorin's vengeance isn't probably necessary to be honest because you could just loam flame jab. i just like to have more than one win con because of things like surgical extraction, and this deck can still go off really early with simians to kill with 2 activations of sorin's.
shitbrew funbrew whats the difference
>>47358995
No, you just come in here bitching and moaning about the game being "Too expensive ;_;" and then refuse to use a free option that does the heavy lifting for you. You can't have your cake and eat it too, chucklefuck. So either stop whining or fuck off.
Thoughts?
http://www.mtgdecks.net/decks/view/602814
Looks fun, albeit a little dated already.
>>47354656
I have a lot of respect 4 u.
I was actually waiting for her to drop under 10, which never happened sadly.
>>47349946
>Assemble the LegionI love you
>>47358664
The people who actually have a decent collection own things that won't devalue because they're actual collector's items, like cards from Alpha, and not just cards that people want to play with. The ones that care about that are shitters who "invest" in tarmogoyfs and stop people from playing the game so they can someday see some profit.
>>47349946
post list
Imagine - this card is now modern legal. Does it change anything?
>>47360246
it doesn't change shit
>>47350885
terrible fakes
>>47360246
Goblins are elevated to a tier once status; all other decks warp around them to include GQ and Tec. edge. In an attempt to squash the goblin uprising, GW hatebears rises to the challenge. Blue decks fall by the wayside as they are simply unable to react fast enough and BGx decks are forced to lower their curve to accomadate.
Or not.
>>47360507
>MFW i put real cards saying they are fakes, and anons see all the mistakes by themselves
gotcha
>>47347248
I bought some fetches, and I'm so disappointed. They feel like plastic and I can see they're fake from some feet away. I can share pics if anyone wants to see what they look like.
>>47360643
I'd be interested.
What are the best ways to spot fakes? If they are in sleeves?
>>47358263
Try to reduce the number of 1 ofs as it makes getting those techs less reliable. I'd cut Torper, commandeer, negate, Rapid, Sea's Claim (replace with a second Spread), engulf, and Gigadrowse.
Are you running any Cryptics?
>>47360656
Here's a comparison between a fake and a real card. Can you tell which one is the real one?The fake feels almost rubbery and reflects light in a different way. It has less definition and looks a little bit blurred. It looks even more blurred because of the picture I took.
>>47360246
No you fucking idiot, that card is trash.
>>47360937
Now with no sleeves. It gets pretty obvious.
>>47360957
And now with the fake double sleeved. I can compare the fetches with basic lands from the same period.
>>47360957
Wow, the image definition of the one on the right is really clear compared to the one on the left.
>>47360976
I know nobody asked for it, but here's a comparison of the fetches with basic lands from the same set.
>>47361287
A Forest in the middle of some fetches.
>>47361287
Is the flooded strand supposed to be that washed out?
>>47361314
My room is somewhat dark, so the pictures might be bad. I can take new ones.I'm afraid of using this playmat outside because it has anime tits
>>47361323
It's pretty washed out in the original, but it looks even more so in the counterfeit because the resolution is lower.
http://magiccards.info/on/en/316.html
>>47359063
Okay so the retrace + spell weaver seems interesting but it seems really easy to interupt as just about every side board has some way to interact with artifacts. Like, only mono B has no option. The deck over all also suffers from graveyard hate which weakens it. Graftdigger's also really easily deals with the deck.
What is the point of the 1 of S. Vengance? This seems like a really big spell that won't fire most of the time. Also, running 1 ofs doesn't work well with Spellweaver.
I'm confused to why the mill cards are here. Is that the only real win con?
>>47359750
Take out the man lands and replace them with better duel lands. Even just 5 dollar pain lands are better as you can use them as you play.
This feels like a wonky zoo deck. The lacking of healing besides the Kalistas is pretty lame. This is really only a problem with how much you'll be taking from fetching. You should consider adding more lighting helixes. I'd cut the slaughter for another helix.
I'd consider adding more pyromancers and get rid of the Kalitas.
The lingerings seem really out of place. You only have have your walkers that support a wide board strategy. Unless you add some anthems it feels like all the tokens you are making through Brimaz, young, and lignering seem weak, but at that point you just are making a RBW tokens which will be really bad as it is slower and is even more strained for mana.
>>47361356
Both are double sleeved.
>>47361425
So they still can't print the borders very well?
Need brewing ideas. No color restrictions but the build-around card must be super cheap. any ideas?
whats the cockatrice server these days?
I'm trying to log in the way I always have but I'm getting "login error -1"
no idea what that means
>>47359062
I didn't say anything about cuckatrice
>>47361393
Mill? No you silly. The glimpses and hedron crabs are to be used on yourself to send retrace cards into the yard. You can get back helixes by using loam on a land that can do it, but its slow.
Generally the sorins is the real win con, you get another spellweavers and link it with sorins. The turns just get you there but flame jab is the real win con.
Dealing with artifacts is no big deal. If their removal is instant speed its a shame but often times you wanna try and force them to discard down before you drop your spellweavers. You can do that against control decks really easily.
The real weakness is grave hate. You get fucking wrecked by it, and its already all over the place.
>>47359190
The game is too expensive, demonstrably so. Just because people like you and i can afford it doesn't mean the price tag isn't really high.
>>47360957
>>47360937
>>47360976
>>47361287
>>47361314
>>47361356
wow if these are "bad" fakes i think the future of mtg is fakes
no way i identify a single on of these as fuck unless its side by side with a real one and i am purposely checking to see if its fake
since that situation will never ever ever come up, these fakes are basically perfect
>>47360593
>mfw another "g-gotcha they're all r-real" shit poster
Die in a fiery train derailment
>>47360902
1 cryptic.
Fair argument. A lot of the 1 ofs are versatile. Vs melira I bring in Torpor, Pithing, Grafdiggers, Rapid.. Snare and Dispel aren't bad there either.
Vs burn I can bring dispel, negate, pierce, snare, spellskite, gigadrowse, seas claim and spreading seas.
Vs tron I can bring both seas, negate, pierce, comandeer, snare, pithing needle and gigadrowse.
>>47361658
Would you risk entering a tournament with an assortment of fakes?
I think I might but I'd be nervous all the same.
>>47361446
I guess so, I don't have much experience with fakes.
>>47361658
Do you really think they're that good?
>>47361686
Vs jeskai, I go pithing, grafdiggers, snare, dispel, negate, comandeer, gigadrowse, maybe pierce and spreading seas
Vs infect, pierce, dispel, negate, snare, rapid hybridization, spreading seas, spellskite and gigadrowse. Maybe pithing needle, maybe engulf.
Engulf is there for DnT, its a brutal matchup.
>>47361678
U mad your super fake spotting skills are just your self suggestion?
>>47361468
BURN
U
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#REDDECKWINS
>>47361909
I don't even give a shit about the fakes I'd just rather all of you faggots keep to your own thread instead of ruining literally every thread.
>>47361692
>F-fake? I must've been ripped off by that stranger at the last tournament! What a world we live in!
>>47356939
Villa Zhongs fakes are fucking terrible. He makes his quality rus and sells those at real card prices and sells the ones that are definitely not believable to idiot gajins.
It's frustrating. No one has ever linked thier own fakes that look anywhere near legit. Even on an anonymous image board.
>>47352310
Not the guy from before, but here in Buenos Aires we had a problem with a scammer. A guy from our community found out where he was living and we beat the shit out of him. He gave us part of the money since he said he didnt has the rest.
The thing is after that event, the clerk and his assistants at our LGS checks part of our cards before playing
>>47363755
>basically killing a guy over children's trading cards
Wew lad.
>>47363815
Autism at its finest
>the cardboard of wotc is worth $150+
>but the chinamen cardboard don't
>>47353506
There's a girl at my LGS who had that one picture of Chandra and Liliana that was drawn by some actual Magic artist made into a custom playmat. Pretty cool, yo.
Then again, she's a dyke.
>>47354975
My official MTG licensed sleeves and playmats are more lewd than any of my anime sleeves and mats. Midriffs and cleavage fucking everywhere.
>>47361658
I'm at the point where I probably won't buy older expensive cards anymore. We're on the cusp of fakes being 100% identical and there's really no way to know how and when they will start seeping into the regular second hand market. There are tens of thousands of plebs selling cards in bulk and most of them aren't going to look twice at something to judge its authenticity. If there's any case to be made for the reprinting of older staples, it is this.
>>47363855
some people think the wotc cardstock do price like that but they china paper dont even do most of the time when knowing it
Should I build grixis or mardu?
>>47364576
robby snap-trousers, since graxes can be blund
R8 my meme, m8s. Honestly, it's pretty good. The mana base isn't what it should be due to my budget, the fetches and the swamp should be gemstone mines.
>>47364625
Ebin
>>47364028
You can actually totally tell if you look at the unsleeved card or get the chance to hold it. The texture, finish, and feel are completely wrong, and it's really obvious.
But if you're playing double sleeved at literally any event, nobody will care or even notice.
>>47364646
It doesn't look like it does much of anything. What's the goal, abusing prized amalgam? Congrats you have a couple 3/3s and maybe some 1/1s to back it up. Greater Gargodon? There's better engines to power it out, and it's a shit card when the opponent can just path it and shit all over you. I guess it gets around dismember, but the deck isn't even fast enough to power out gargodon, and if the deck starts drawing dead, it accomplishes nothing. It's got no powerhouse creatures that it can rely on, no removal, and not even any instant win combos.
What are some decks i should look at if i want a high skill ceiling? I'd like to get into competitive magic and want something that will be hard to get good with but will reward me for doing so.
Can anyone link me to good fake fetch lands?
I'm entering a tourny and need the best fakes. No one has ever posted thier own fakes.
>>47364819
The amoebas, amalgams and Bloodghaats can be very quick. The Gargons are there because of their, and sacc'd creatures, interaction with the bridges. It can easily get 10-20 power on board by turn 3 or 4. And, Darkblast is removal. You need to familiarize yourself with Dredge, dude.
>>47364960
*sacrificed creatures
>>47364646
I feel like the vengevine version of this deck is just 150x better but do yo thang
>>47364715
That's why fakes seem like the best of both worlds, they pass if you actually play the game with them like a normal person, but they fail if you try to sell them as real
They expand the player base as well as the deck availability of current players, but they don't damage the real card economy
>>47361647
>demonstrably
Good word. Shame it doesn't mean anything in this context.
>>47353990
Well, in actual court, something like the Statue of David wont be counted as porn for exactly that reason. Real laws regarding pornography involve a "you know it when you see it" system.
>>47354656
No, probably not. None of them are probably going to a GP.
>>47347095
Friend went to go Charlotte this weekend since he had two byes.
>needs to buy the sleep-in special to actually use the byes
The fuck is this jewery?
Best sleeves to hide fakes? KMC HyperMats with perfect fit inside?
Right now I have ultra pro regular sleeves. Really any good sleeve recommendation.
>>47365297
>Right now I have ultra pro regular sleeves. Really any good sleeve recommendation.
If you have an active internet connection and still use ultra pro sleeves, I really can't figure out what you're doing with your life.
>>47365494
You haven't recommended anything else.
Any good substitutes for this card that are Modern legal? I'm looking to make a red/green infinite combo deck that's tournament legal
>>47354792
Stoneman was the most shipped seller here. One guy made threads about fakes every other day and uploaded pics from stonemans hq-fakes. Some people ordered from him because of that but were disappointed. Pic related.
>>47358128
A) That forces everyone to run blue in a format where blue is the single weakest color.
B) There is no Force of Will, making it wholly unrealistic to make combo that powerful. Hell, Splintertwin got banned.
C) Turn 1 elf on the play into Emrakul (In a UG Elf ramp deck) is pretty much impossible to beat in modern. Spell pierce is basically the only card. And I guess people could start running o-ring or fiend hunter mainboard, but pretty much impossible. There isnt even Karakas to counter it like there is in legacy.
>>47365528
Breath of Fury + Goblin Rabblemaster
>>47365537
Lol top kek that font
>>47365859
Alternatively, Hellkite Charger + Sword of Feast and Famine
Goblin Guide reprint when?
Dead format
Dead thread
>>47366175
Mythic rare in Eternal Masters.
>>47366185
Even that would make the prices better. Modern Masters this year or 2017? Invest in fetches a bad idea until then?
>>47366175
Did people not buy them when they were $5?
>>47366251
bought mine at 15$ each shortly before MM2. Glad I didn't wait.
>>47366271
Apparently my old $100 RDW deck with Scalding Tarns and Goblin Guides has spiked.
>>47366251
I regret it to this day anon.
>>47366251
I just got into magic so no I didn't. Hate these stupid prices. No other game is like this. Fuckin kikes.
Cringe time
>He uses an anime playmat
>He's eating food while playing
>He weighs over 220 pounds
>He double sleeves
>He's impatient with newbies
>His sleeves have art on them
Any other things that make you cringe?
Anyone else playing Dredge with Bridges? Don't know if the deck should play Loam.
>>47366544
Hi Kynes, you gigantic pussy.
>>47366544
You are really going to make more of a fuss deleting your post twice than if you just let it roll the first time, you fucking retard.
>>47366571
Fair enough.
>>47366576
The thread is slow as fuck, you mongoloid.
>>47366522
>he cringes at things that don't matter
Aside from losing their shit with newbies. That's just rude.
anyone know a fast shipping site, I need mtg boosters, me and some buddies are doing a chaos draft monday morning and i need mtg packs, money isnt an issue. pls halp!
pic unrelated: its my favorite commander,
