Magic: The Gathering Modern General
(competitive discussion)
>Playing?
>Brewing?
>Next MTG Purchase?
GP Charlotte and GP Los Angeles this weekend.
Thoughts on the current Modern Metagame?
(picture below)
Up to date Modern Metagame.
>playing?
Naya Burn
>Brewing?
Trying to create a super aggro dredgevine deck
>Next mtg purchase?
Probably some stuff for dredgevine
>>47313783
>D&T tier 2
>Hatebwars tier 3
Why? It's the same damn deck.
>>47313783
>Storm
>tier 3
nigga we made it
>>47313831
Sorta but not quite.
For starters D&T has more reliance on blinking and flicker effects than hatebears does.
![[clapping intensifies].gif](https://i.imgur.com/udfFlWW.gif "[clapping intensifies].gif")
>>47313783
AMERICA TIER 1 WE DID IT
WE DID IT EVERYBODY
WE DID IT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQRiO1ihcQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQRiO1ihcQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQRiO1ihcQA
I know that my deck is no way competitive...
but should I replace bloodsoaked champ with diregraf captain?
1x Blood Crypt
1x Crumbling Necropolis
5x Island
5x Mountain
2x Polluted Delta
8x Swamp
1x Temple of Deceit
1x Watery Grave
1x Cyclonic Rift
2x Doom Blade
2x Stubborn Denial
4x Bloodsoaked Champion
2x Consuming Aberration
3x Grave Titan
4x Indulgent Tormentor
4x Liliana's Reaver
3x Nightveil Specter
2x Dreadbore
3x Rakdos's Return
2x Sleight of Hand
3x Thoughtseize
2x Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
1x Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
>>47313783
Abzan, Elves, Eldrazi and Titanshift have the most interesting day 2% compared to the Adjusted Overall Metagame. What's also highly interesting is RG Tron going to an astounding 9.7% day 2 percentages.
>>47314684
If you're going to go with Diregraf captain then you may as well go full zombie. There's a shitload of zombie lords that are modern legal. They're also mostly 3cmc or less(Hint: Collected Company)
>>47314728
yea, you're right. thanks
>playing?
Kiki chord
>brewing?
Nothing, deck is solid
>next mtg purchase?
Engineered explosive for the sideboard
>>47313772
>>Playing?
AMERICA, also naya burn on modo because fuck playing the same deck all the time.
>>Brewing?
no brews, only clapping now
>>Next MTG Purchase?
Rule of Law for D&T i guess? Not modern related but you asked.
Anyone going to Charlotte for the first time make sure you hit up Cookout and get some Cheerwine while you're down there.
Anyone going to LA... ha ha, now you're in California.
Pic related. California: Not even once.
>>47314770
Honestly brew up some Modern zombies, give it a go. You're in it to just dick around, play some MTG and see if you can do something right?
Hey I played Possibility Storm Combo as well just to use Zoetic Caverns into Emrakul.
>>47313772
>Playing?
Grixis Delver
>Brewing?
Better Grixis Control/Midrange. It's tough but I wanna make it work smoother
>Next MTG Purchase?
Unsure of yet. I'm waiting for Nahiri Jeskai to fail so I can laugh at people at the LGS that bought her at her current price
>Zombies
>In Modern
DID SOMEONE SAY ZOMBIE HUNT?
>>47315435
this is the spike thread, so no. nobody said zombie hunt.
>>47315503
>Unironically using the term spike
That's really embarrassing anon.
Prove you aren't a retard and post your Nahiris.
>>47315864
Guess I'm a retard.
I'm just about done with this game.
>>47316033
Contraptions confirmed in Kaladesh
And here I was hoping to be competitive at the GP with Tooth and Nail.
>>47316033
>he didn't buy his set years ago
>>47316033
>people buying $7 joke cards
Better get you copies of Blacker Lotus too
I'm not super knowledgeable on the mtg market because I'm just starting to move from kitchen table to standard/modern, so what's the most cost-effective and fun thing to play in modern right now?
also, I have a BFZ fatpack sitting around. Should I open it or should I sit on it and wait for it to accrue value?
>>47316033
Hilarious
>>47316372
Burn and Infect are cost effective, but I don't think they're fun. Decks that are fun to play costs at least $600.
>>47316372
>I have a BFZ fatpack sitting around. Should I open it or should I sit on it and wait for it to accrue value?
Everyone and their dog is hoarding full art lands and it's highly unlikely there's a good expedition inside. It probably won't end up being worth shit.
>>47316480
yeah, I figured that would be the case.
anyone else have any insight? I don't want to just go off one person's opinion, and if everyone who's playing now has a bunch of full art how likely is it that new players will want them?
>>47315864
I would have bought 4 Nahiris when she was 10 dollars but I dont play red white.
>>47316514
I'm just going off the logic that people took original zendikar for granted and regretted not opening and ordering more of it. I still remember getting an Arid Mesa and Scalding Tarn out of my only fat pack way back then. The market is flooded with BFZ and there's really nothing that outstanding in the set proper. Radiant Flames and Painful Truths are the only cards I've seen played a lot outside of standard. You could always open the fat pack, but keep the full art land pack sealed.
>>47316480
I dont like the full art lands. Sure they look nice but everytime I see someone play one, all I see is a hipster. Take your duel lands and go back to starbux.
Do I buy Lilis to finish Junk sans goofy or buy heirarchs to finish Infect?
Or keep playing affinity?
Here's my new Mardu list. Now that we've seen Nahiri can win games all on her own, that's what I'm going to try. Went less Jund, and more UWR with the list, it's much more control than midrange. It wants to play against creature decks, but it has some play against combo decks with its discard. Any input is welcome
Land (25)
2x Arid Mesa
2x Blood Crypt
4x Bloodstained Mire
2x Dragonskull Summit
1x Godless Shrine
2x Lavaclaw Reaches
2x Mountain
1x Plains
1x Rugged Prairie
3x Sacred Foundry
4x Shambling Vent
1x Swamp
Sorcery (16)
2x Anger of the Gods
2x Dreadbore
2x Inquisition of Kozilek
4x Painful Truths
4x Thoughtseize
2x Wrath of God
Creature (1)
1x Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Instant (11)
2x Kolaghan's Command
3x Lightning Bolt
4x Lightning Helix
2x Path to Exile
Planeswalker (7)
2x Ajani Vengeant
1x Gideon Jura
4x Nahiri, the Harbinger
>>47316775
Hierarch, it's better to play a complete version of a 80/20 deck than a poor man's 50/50.
>>47316033
Can't wait for it to do nothing. The price will tank harder than Tezzeret.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/17-04-16-CET-spirit-tribal/
I'm almost finished with my U/W spirit tribal and thinking of Esper, what do you all think?
>>47313772
the art is so bad.
2 blue colors in the border
+ black + brown + red + orange + green WTF wizards how do you let this shit be a promo art ?
For infect is which is better two or three become immense?
>>47317961
They needed more diversity
>>47317953
>4032x3024
>upside down
bruh
>>47318086
If that's actually their reason to remove Tiago, that doesn't make sense since I'm sure there are more niggers than chinks in MTG art at this point.
>Playing
B/W tokens
>Brewing
Lantern control
>Next purchase
Basically every card over 20 $in the deck .
>>47318086
ask any artist and he will rate it with a 2/10 at most
>>47313772
>replacing Asian with a black dude.
I am not really into MTG, i've been working at a traditional games shop for a while and am asked regularly if I can teach them how to play. I play every so often, I mean, if people want to test decks, they lend me a spare one to try.
Anyway, I finally decided to get a deck to help teach people to play. I bought the Ongoing Investigations starter, so what are some good cards to add/take out to make it good?
>>47318715
pathetic and clear rasism
>>47318777
Probably would want to ask the standard thread. Starter decks usually have pretty much 0 playable cards in modern.
>>47318679
I rate it stolemybike/10.
>>47314684
Yes, and while you're at it replace pretty much everything else
>>47313772
Hey! Are there any Hulk Footsteps guys here, I'm buying into the deck soon and needed some help from experienced players.
>>47319886
I used to play grixis breechless, whats your list?
>>47319921
It's a U-Jund Breechless (Because poor)
http://deckbox.org/sets/1414331
Treasured find is shit, I know I'm replace it, I just don't know with what yet.
>>47320069
>I know I'm replace it
My English is shit, I tell ya hwat.
>>47318822
here is your (you) you Untermensch
now back to tumblr you little sissy
>>47317961
>>47318715
Im not sure why people are complaining about the new Snapcaster. It gives you the ability to steal spells from your opponents graveyard, which can really shore up the Jeskai vs BGx matchup.
>>47320322
Because its a trace of a basketball player from an nba game.
>>47316372
Infect can give you free wins sometimes, but it's very skill intensive. It can give you every interesting games I would recommend it.
> havent played Modern MtG since Dicember 2012 cause of studying abroad.
> by that time, Jund was the unbeatable deck of the moment while Infect was at most a Tier 2 meme deck.
>2016
>infect is one of the top Tier 1 decks
Disgusting
What the fuck happened after all these years? (apart that my deathrite shamans are fucking useless now).
who /lgs_closed/ here
:(
>>47320956
Why did you only buy singles anon? Why did you buy cards online anon????? YOU KILLED THEM ANON
>>47321046
I KNOW I'M SO SORRY
>>47316835
>mardu
my nigga
>>47317953
sick australian bordered detention sphere
If I want to play modern, is there even a point in trying to build my own deck or do I just go online and use some $500+ list if I ever want to get a chance of winning?
It's not the price that baffles me, is the fact that everyone literally plays the same two dozens decks.
>>47320619
More people getting into modern that can't afford anything other than Burn and Infect.
Jund is still #1 right now, but not everyone can afford it
>>47318418
Tiago was a dick, and this has been standard practice since they reprinted Pikula. Bob, Olle and Finkel have all had the same treatment
>>47321169
Modern is not a brewer's format. Unless you don't mind losing for a while (read months) while you suss out card numbers and sideboard options and optimal builds (oh and you're REALLY good at the game and the format) then i do not suggest trying your own build in modern.
>>47321130
Are we posting mardu lists?
4 Wall of Omens
4 Kitchen Finks
3 Restoration Angel
2 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Path to Exile
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Lightning Helix
2 Terminate
1 Anguished Unmaking
1 Painful Truths
4 Lingering Souls
1 Thoughtseize
4 Marsh Flats
3 Arid Mesa
2 Bloodstained Mire
2 Godless Shrine
2 Sacred Foundry
1 Blood Crypt
2 Blackcleave Cliffs
2 Shambling Vent
2 Plains
1 Swamp
1 Mountain
1 Fetid Heath
1 Rugged Prairie
Only problem I've been having is the manabase. It's hard to have a primarily white deck that also wants to cast inquisition on turn 1. Blackcleave cliffs can't shore up the gaps. Any solutions?
> Playing
UWR Control, been playing it for years. Don't care if it's bad, it's what I love
> Brewing
Testing the UWR Nahiri deck, tweaking it to fit my playstyle and the local meta
> Next Purchase
I don't purchase cards often, I usually just buy specs.
>>47321252
I see. Thank you. Then I suppose I might look into some budget legacy instead. Or just keep playing standard/commander.
>>47313772
>Playing
RG Titanshift and Ad Nauseam
>Brewing
I brew in my head all the time. I'd never buy those steaming piles of shit though.
>Next MTG Purchase
Maybe RG eldrazi. Grove might get reprinted in eternal masters.
African Jew here. How do I steal enough cards to afford playing Modern?
>>47321607
Step one: Tie a noose
Step two: Kill yourself
''''''''''miracles''''''''''
>>47321169
You can brew for Modern, you just need to actually understand the format and play other decks first.
>>47315864
I pulled one in a pack a while back, but why the fuck are they 30 bucks now?
>>47321994
people realized that
+2: filter your draw, if you want to.
-2: kill a thing
-8: kill the opponent
was a good card
>>47321994
sees modern play now, can cheat out emrakul. see jeskai harbinger at SCG
Would pic related save modern?
why isn't anyone talking about the "spoilers" list?
>>47322110
>>47322110
Because wizards isn't going to print anything useful in modern in great enough quantities to affect the price.
If anything, the price will go up. So buy now.
>>47322136
>>47322097
please go end your life
>>47322145
>not caring for the limited experience
>>47313772
That promo is sick
>>47322198
Honestly, if I want a good limited experience these days, I play with a cube. Limited as a format to sell packs is archaic.
>>47322198
Block set drafts are fine. Drafts of premium, overpriced limited sets are shit and the fun you're getting isn't worth the money you're paying. If they actually printed large amounts of boxes and set their prices lower, I'd happily draft that but the way shit is now I'd rather just buy singles and draft SoI.
>>47315433
>>47315433
Shoot: the main cards to buy for Grixis Delver, right now
>>47315298
i love doing this. i always see cards and im like "man i wanna build around this"
i recently tried brain in a jar after doing some other shit and that was poor but im super happy with my isochron brew
it actually feels so great
>>47323669
lands,and snapcasters
>>47319886
I haven't played the deck in a while but i'll tell you roughly how things go.
Alright so basically in the deck you'll probably win game 1 hands down against most decks barring maindeck gravehate. Makeshift Mannequin is a great way of being able to dodge your Hulk from eating a Path to Exile if you're reanimating from graveyard when Footsteps leaves you too vulnerable to Path.
Game 2 you'll need an alternative plan of having a reliable sac outlet to loop whether they're bringing in extra paths or other stuff like night of souls betrayal/RiP. Alternative plans for being able to loop combos and having a sac outlet are Greater Gargaddon(it's in exile when suspended so they cannot really interact with it barring Eldrazi decks)Venser Shaper Savant(this is actually the original Hulk combo in STD at the time) where Venser can bounce not just a permanent but a SPELL being cast on the stack as well and you can do a loop where you bounce their entire board(including lands!)which also reminds me that I need to test Brutal Expulsion in my list somewhere for the same purpose. Other alternative plans involve just ramping(lists using Pentad Prism) and/or grabbing out a Grave Titan instead with the Hulk. A really janky but alternative plan is to use Vampire Hexmage with Lost Auramancers grabbing out a Hive Mind and then killing them with various Pacts(Pact of the Titan etc.)
If I was you i'd at least get 2 copies of Through the Breach if possible. The deck kind of needs 2 minimum so you can also just cheat the Hulk in from play and even use Emrakul if needed.
>>47315864
Sold mine last week for £14 each, I jumped the gun and now they've spiked even more.
>>47317953
fucking retard
>>47321169
you can make your own deck and do well at a certain level.
however i suspect that pretty much every deck worth playing has been explored to some extent so i doubt you can find something truly original.
>>47321169
You can build your own deck once you are familiar with the modern meta(both local, online and regional competitive metas) and then you'll know exactly what to prepare your deck for. Sometimes new cards will come in and give your deck a serious boost and make it something really outstanding.
For example Elves was a fringe playable deck for a while until Collected Company was printed. Dredgevine right now is going the same way with it being a fringe deck to one that got a massive boost with Insolent Neonate and Prized Amalgam.
>>47322161
Seeing as Wizards keeps trying to force draft on this shit, Lin Sivvi doesn't make any sense unless there are a ton of rebel commons.
>>47322110
Because its obviously fake. Cursed scroll is on the reserved list. Besides that, there's no way in hell fetches are getting a reprint. They're going to save those for a standard legal set a few years down the line.
>>47322198
You mean like Modern Masters 2, where you can draft Daybreak Coronet in a format where the only other auras in the entire fucking set are Goblin War Paint, Splinter Twin, and FUCKING ARREST?
>>47324792
You forgot pillory of the sleepless
Bogles is the dumbest deck ever.
>>47322161
Because those aren't the actual spoilers anon.
>>47325660
All aggro decks are pretty equally dumb
>>47325721
>*tips control fedora*
>>47325751
I fucking hate control players.
"Hurr durr, neither of us are actually gonna play the game. FUN RIGHT?"
>>47321156
Kek
>>47316478
Eldrazi and Taxes is fun
>>47326096
Not sure what took a hit, but I swear the last E&T list I saw on Top8 had a $610 price tag.
I issue a correction: Decks that are fun to play costs at least $400.
>>47325769
No you are both playing the game. Just because you don't get to do everything you want doesn't make it not playing the game. Now please leave and don't come back.
>>47325769
>>47326276
Control vs Control is the most fun Modern matchup, especially when it's two different forms like Jeskai vs Grixis. It's like a showdown of two pure martial arts in a sea of bastardized MMA.
>>47325751
>>47325769
>aggro baby fuccbois
Lmao, sure is a shame you can't just turn creatures sideways all day. Wouldn't it be sock if they made a 20 power creature with haste for 0 mana? Then your games could be fast and easy and you could literally not use any thought at all you smelly little cuck.
>>47326376
Played Jeskai / Jeskai Monday night. Was actually quite fun (long games with lots of decision trees).
>>47321194
I see.
Well since I am back from living 4 years in a shithole country and starting my life again, what should I do with my sets of deathrite shamans and cascade elf now that they are banned?
>>47326471
Lmao control retards, what was the decision? Bolt snap bolt his face or bolt snap bolt your own guy? Ducking control retards thinking their deck is "difficult" or "challenging" to play makes me laugh out loud every time. Kill yourself desu senpai
>>47326511
Play legacy
>>47326471
>leaving that one mana up when you Rev so you can Spell Snare
>>47326450
>Wouldn't it be sock
No it'd be a card.
>>47326548
>mfw I vial in spirit of the labyrinth and you cry little fuccboi tears
>>47326567
Ebin, simply ebin
>>47326533
Should I attack with my Colonnade?
Should I bolt the Snappy or Nahiri or my opponent?
Should I use my Lighthouse EOT, or will that open up an opportunity for my opponent that I can't afford?
I suppose the decision trees narrowed later on, but turns 3-6 were interesting.
>>47326533
This ladies and gentlemen is the reason we say burn auto pilots. This is the average burn player.
>>47326573
Because you run Vial and Spirit Of Fucking Myself Over in Jeskai Control? Read the fucking thread.
>>47326533
Also, I played 4 Serum Visions, so there's plenty of scry decisions.
And +2 with Nahiri can be a little tricky.
>>47326542
I may have a better job now, but I dont feel like spending money on legacy staples like waterland or duallands.
Should I get the new khans fetchs since some old friend told me there are some good counterfeits of old cards (like old fetchs).
>>47326548
>mfw I spell pierce your rev
>>47326692
It sounds like you already have an old Jund deck. Legacy Jund and Modern Jund share a lot of cards. You could just use shocklands instead of the original duals and switch between the two formats whenever you want.
>>47326749
Yeah, I have an old modern Jund deck. I am looking into some actual lists and seems that some use Kolaghan Command in the sideboard. What else did I miss for Jund decks after Return to Ravnica?
>>47326833
Kalitas is a house
Kolaghan's Command is sweet
Other cards printed since RtR are optional.
>>47326833
Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
Kolaghan's Command
Scavenging Ooze
Pia and Kiran Nalaar
Tasigur, the Golden Fang
Courser of Kruphix
>>47326631
You're damn right I do! Gotta think of that NEXT LEVEL STRATEGY. Nobody would ever expect it!
Fuck i'm so clever I even splash Red and play Melira in the sideboard in Infect. They think they're safe on taking all that shock damage from their lands leaving them on 12 life and then BAM! In comes Melira and I swing in pumping up to 6 and then slap down that Temur Battle Rage.
NEXT. LEVEL. STRATEGY. WOOOOOO
>>47322041
what deck does she get used in?
>>47327023
emerakul america
>>47326864
>>47326920
Those looks pretty insane. That black legend is literally a fifth goyf. The rest looks great too but dunno about the red legendary. I think Huntmaster is more useful specially when bob drains reduce our hp a lot.
>>47327132
Pia and Kiran is pretty great. Awesome value creature
>>47327177
Yeah I dont deny its a great 4cmc for Jund players but I feel Huntmaster is a lil better for the 4cmc.
Dunno why people fight to demostrate which playstyle is the best.
I always liked the aggro vs control match. Will you stabilize the board in time or you it will be too late for it.
>>47326833
Must be tough trying to make a deck out of the most aggressive colors in a format with no counterspell
>>47321795
>15 minutes on burn's clock
>1 minute on miracuck's clock
>>47327245
The current go-to 4 drop for Jund is Kalitas. It gains life, turns your 1-for-1 removal into 2-for-1's, and hoses the Viscera Seer-Melira-Kitchen Finks combo.
There's a joke that Modern has the most cancerous playerbase. Some people don't think it's a joke, but it might just be /tg/.
>>47327344
Never played magic online, will I lose if the clock runs out of time?
>>47327476
yeah you lose if your clock runs out. it's pretty AIDS but it forces you to learn your lines and play efficiently.
>>47327245
The reason why Jund is using Pia and Kiran Nalaar is due to the fact that since the Thopter tokens are colorless artifact creatures. It allows them to block an Inkmoth Nexus or an Etched Champion. Those two factors alone are they get played.
>>47327630
mom&dad is one of the most versatile 4-drop creatures printed full stop.
alright boys its my patented jeskaisochron
it plays sort of like jeskai burn but also turbofog and uses isochrons to fuck shit up
mainboard originally had holy days and was deep into anti-creature but ive been trying to diversify the list for noncreature based builds like tron and have as many options as possible
4x Angel's Grace
1x Elixir of Immortality
2x Lightning Bolt
3x Path to Exile
4x Boros Charm
4x Dawn Charm
4x Howling Mine
4x Isochron Scepter
3x Izzet Charm
3x Lightning Helix
1x Blood Moon
4x Dictate of Kruphix
1x Runeflare Trap
Sideboard:
Sideboard is currently in progress but I basically need answers to noncreature permanents so i run silences because its basically gg if i get it on isochron vs tron but I need to hope they don't get karn before then.
4x Delay
2x Blood Moon
1x Smash to Smithereens
2x Disenchant
1x Path to Exile
4x Silence
fun deck! makes games take for fucking ever though
land are just basic fetch/shocks leaning towards more island/plains basics for blood moon
lemme know if its shit but it feels good
>>47313783
>Affinity almost dropping to tier 2
>Scapeshift poking into tier 1
>Jund is good again
>Jeskai tier 1
>storm is playable
This is a strange fucking meta.
>>47326450
>>aggro baby fuccbois
>Implying I play agrro
I play combo you fucking autist, the reason I hate control is because of the elitist bullshit mentality (that you just demonstrated)
>>47326376
I can agree to this for the most part, and frankly, I don't have a problem with Jeskai, or Grixis, I mean the decks that are like.
>I HAVE 32 COUNTERSPELLS MAINBOARD AND ONE WAY OF WINNING THAT COSTS 5 MANA
Jeskai and Grixis are actually fun to play against.
>>47328576
Well, jeskai is basically counterspells + removal + 4 nahiri and 1 emrakul. Not that fun to play against.
>>47328457
You tell me. I have just ordered the cards i missed post RTR and some old staples like 1 spellskite to complete the set.
Back in rtr, affinity was a pain in the ass. Even with discards and sweepers, once etched hit the board, it was hard to deal and hoped they didnt have counterspells to deal with my lillis.
I just found my old Scars-Innistrad standard Naya pod deck and thought I could brew something with my birthing pods only to find out its banned too.
>>47328686
>Not that fun to play against.
It is for my deck, but only because my wincon really only cares about spells that can't be countered and creatures that don't care if they're 'removed'
>>47328746
Well one of mine is like that. I also play delver so that's a pretty annoying matchup.
>>47328709
Dude where have you been all this time? Living under a rock?
>>47326376
it boils down to 'who pulls the trigger first loses' in most cases.
>>47326376
The best part is that control players think they're smart and clever, but in reality you're on the same level as burn. Just counter their wincon, or deny them access to getting said wincon. So much skill!
>>47328774
Delver sucks ass against control, especially ru/x control, I used to player delver too man, I know your pain.
>>47328853
Magic players think they're smart and clever, but they're really just drawing playing cards from their hand until one of them wins!
>>47327023
Kiki Chord and Jeskai control. Also standard, obviously.
>>47328780
Living and studying abroad anon. I just got back 2 days ago and found my cards in the box I left them like 3 years ago. Cant believe my cards werent eaten by moths or thrown into the trash by my mother ( she hated watching me playing cardsfor some reason).
Lastdecks I played were a T2 naya pod deck, my old Jund deck, an old version of Affinity deck and a UR Delver deck with a combo of splinter twin and the blue exarch.
>>47321365
>UWR control
>bad
Nigga it's solidly T1 at this point.
>>47328917
The worst part is I always do about 20 damage to them. One or two lightning helixes and i'm out of the game.
>>47328359
I played a poor kid using a deck like this once, fucking wrecked him. Felt so good.
>>47329019
jund and affinity are still good
pod and splinter twin are banned
delver was never good in this format
>studying abroad
why settle for only one? when i was your age i 'studied' tons of broads
>>47329069
>delver was never good in this format
Delver was good when Treasure Cruise and Dig were legal to be fair.
>>47329131
fair point. ur delver was good with treasure cruise.
>>47322161
Cursed scroll is reserve list numbnuts
>>47329193
Delver can't work in modern. You really need 2 good one drops and some number of good cantrips. There's no1 drop to pair with it in any reasonable color combination
>>47329349
UR is pretty fine. Too many removal spells and it dies pretty hard, but I usually go 3-1 at fnm with it.
>>47321046
>singles
Any store still cracking any more than two boxes for singles sales right now are losing money. They're losing money on the two boxes already but there is no way that they can possibly compete with the online stores and nobody buys singles at any store ever.
The labor it takes to crack and sort singles is also lost. A store can buy singles at 50% and sell for the full market value but actually opening product is like $500-$1000 of product and labor you are never going to recuperate.
My store stopped cracking more than 3 boxes in RTR. They still buy collections and singles and sell them; so there's always cards for sale that competitive players want and for the dogshit cards the community basically gives them away.
I know stores in large cities can maintain Magic sales because they enjoy the combined benefit of cheap rent and a large Magic player base but I'm surprised anywhere else bothers with supporting Magic anymore beyond sealed sales and prereleases; every event including FNM is run at a loss after you take into account labor in addition to the fact nobody wants to work a fucking 12 hour day on Friday or wants to pay overtime.
>>47329489
My lgs is surviving off of the big boardgame resurgence
>>47315983
This is where I want to be in modern but instead I built into obscure tier 4 jank (restore balance).
Hatebears/loam pox, but I can't decide on which to pick to build into. Hatebears can eventually be little abzan/full abzan and loam pox can be jund so I'll have options but at the moment I guess I'll just stick to what I have.
>>47329639
Really?
It's kinda died off here. There was a huge surge yes, but once all the bookstores and the Walmarts started getting Settlers of Catan it was pretty much done. For the past decade people raved about Catan about how everyone in Silicon Valley played it but the fairweather players got into the fad and now they're done. It was amusing getting everyone together to play board games but most people just don't have the stomach for it to go longer than a couple months - it's actually like going to the gym; it's actually more fun for some people to sit together and watch TV or a movie like they always do.
My store sells tonnes of games during Christmas but keeps a fairly low inventory during the rest of the year, and I know that nobody is actually board gaming; they're just collecting games with nobody to play with, which is a very sad reality. As far as board games goes it sells more Catan, Ticket to Ride, and *insert property* Monopoly more than anything.
I can list the only games that really sell right here:
Carcasonne
Catan
Smallworld
Ticket to Ride
Monopoly
Risk
Munchkin
It may sound demeaning but people just don't want to put any effort into anything. You'd think the Game of Thrones board game would sell like fucking crazy right? The store owner tells me that the moment people say, "Oh my god Game of Thrones board game", pick up the box and look at the back they put it right back down. It's a solid game but even the appeal of the show can't sell the fact that it looks too hardcore for people.
>>47329739
Where I live is a little behind the curve.
>>47326622
Separate anon here, burn gets way too bad a rap, it's very linear but it's extremely fair and does have decision trees, and yeah it might not be the most difficult but it's fun for me and the match up vs a good control player is very enjoyable.
>playing?
Affinity
>brewing?
Elves. I just cant seem to decide on the landbase.
>next mtg purchase?
Idk, maybe a box of ema for me and my friends to draft, if we ever see what is actually in it.
>>47329193
Everything was 'good' with Treasure Cruise. Thankfully it got banned.
>>47313772
>playing
Storm
>Brewing
Reanimator
>Next purchase
Big gris and Iona
eternal masters spoilers fucking when
>>47330289
>Brewing
>Reanimator
whats your list
4 Blistercoil Weird
4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 Stormchaser Mage
4 Assault Strobe
4 Brute Force
4 Desperate Ritual
4 Dispel
4 Manamorphose
4 Mutagenic Growth
4 Temur Battle Rage
4 Titan's Strength
2 Cascade Bluffs
4 Mountain
2 Island
4 Steam Vents
4 Sulfur Falls
Been working on an Izzet Rage deck, been consistently winning turn 2-3 at my store and online, thinking about putting dispel into the sideboard for another pump
>>47330538
temur battle rage needs banned
>>47330538
So what makes this deck more consistent than Bogles or Infect?
>>47330573
>banning temur battle rage
>>47330594
Double strike allows consistent turn 2 wins, anything that gives double strike should be at least 4 mana or more :^)
>>47330590
You don't need a whole lot of mana
Desperate ritual gives you a ton of mana to work with early on
Only thing it lacks is card draw
also what >>47330609
says, though he's a faggot since a good sideboard can stop temur battle rage, which is why I include dispels
>>47330590
its not. its a glass cannon. you either win by turn 2 or 3 or you don't. and its cheap
>>47330667
Yeah man it's so fucking good, it wins all the majors and- oh wait it doesn't because it's a meme deck, you stupid fucking faggot.
>>47330667
Thats why its a brew
Why is nobody playing browbeat now? Its literally 2r draw 3 cards and if your opponent is stupid enough to take 5 you can continue the punishment and make it a win. Also dont give me that "consistency" or "giving your opponent options is bad" bullshit. If that was 100% true standstill would be considered worthless.
>>47330720
Well clearly you've made up your mind about it, so fuck off. If you think it's so good, go run it in a major and get at least top 16.
>>47330769
A sample size of 1 is shit, besides I'm still trying to brew up something that can play a pyromancers goggles without folding to aggro that isnt just "look for a wincon"
>>47330521
It's pretty shit started throwing stuff I had around. I'll take any suggestion
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/12-05-16-something/
>>47313831
In Modern, D&T refers to BW with Eldrazis, while GW is just pure Hatebears.
>>47330720
3 mana 5 damage is slightly above the curve: its not worth it to run a card that cant close a game out.
You clearly have never played with/against standstill.
would sigil of valor be okay in a budget affinity list?
it's either that or 3 arcbound workers.
>>47331562
Either build real Affinity or don't play it.
>>47331575
bruh, i cant shill out 900 dollars all at once, i'll upgrade once a paycheck.
>>47331562
No. You absolutely need Cranial Plating, being able to change equip targets at instant speed is one of its key strengths. If you're doing a budget Affinity list then you should look to some Frogmites and Myr Enforcers.
>>47331713
This. Cranial Plating steals games. You draw the third one in the top 15 cards and your opponent rolls their eyes while they die.
>>47331713i am wanting to take out myr enforcer for sigil of valor/arcbound worker
hows chief of the foundry?
>>47331764
Sigil of Valor is terrible. Again you want Cranial Plating so you can swing with everything and then reattach to whatever isn't being blocked. Sigil they can always either chump block the one dude that has it.
Arcbound Worker is actually fine though, it's really good if you have Ravager in your list but if you're lacking the Ravager then it's still ok.
Never tried Chief of the Foundry but I guess it's alright. 3 cmc can be a bit hefty though but not entirely uncastable. Give it a shot anyway.
>>47331816
i have mtg goldfishs tempered steel deck
gonna upgrade it to real affinity as i go
any order i should accrue the expensive cards in?
>>47331855
>any order i should accrue the expensive cards in?
I'll give the same advice I give to you that I give to anyone else looking to work towards building a deck or buying more expensive parts of the deck. "Always invest in real estate". By that I mean buy the lands.
>>47331562
Dude Cranials are like a dollar how budget are you tryna get?
>>47331912
i have cranials, i was going to run sigil in addition to it
in my budget build i feel like im often swinging with like one evasive dude.
>>47331941
The only thing expensive in Affinity are the Arcbounds, Opals, Glimmervoids, and Inkmoths.
Everything else, the tools Affinity uses to go wide, is basically bargain bin as it is.
>>47331997
literally i have everything except the expensive cards you just named.
excluding steel overseer
>>47331911
Normally I would agree as lands have a lot of overlap in what you can use them in but affinity has no overlap other than inkmoth which would be great to get as it lets him play budget mono green infect on days he gets tired of affinity
>>47332013
Glimmervoids have only been increasing and they see some use in Lantern Control and Tezzerator lists. Gone from like $10 at one point to $38.
>>47331015
>eldrazi
Lol no, that build sucks.
>>47327565
It's only AIDS if you're a retard, I mean Randall Thompson almost never goes to time (went once when his opponent had like a minute left since he was trying to clock him out by taking irregular breaks) with Lantern and that deck has no dedicated wincons.
>>47332105
Lantern only takes forever to play against if you're an idiot who doesn't understand what you're playing against.
Even a rookie pilot of the deck has no excuse to time out besides actively jacking off under the table, which Lantern players are prone to doing.
>>47331562
>>47332001
whats your budget affinity list? are you running Tempered Steel? because you should. run 3 of Thoughtcast and some Ensoul Artifacts too.
>>47330815
youre gonna get assraped because youre not doing anything to develop your board until turn 4 or 5. 4 counterspells and 4 kill spells is not enough to handle your way until then. if you wanna do reanimator the right way in modern then play dredgevine. if you dont want to or cant then you are very likely to not win anything but you can try fitting in nyxweaver spiders and a couple of whips of erebos.
>>47321130
What program is that?
>every article on SCG is circle jerking over Nahiri
I wonder if they might be trying to unload some stock hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Does anybody have that guy at their card shop who will not quite until lethal? I am not talking about waiting to see if the opponent can kill you but when you know you can have them and they do as well however they wait. After a counter war with patriot control he was tapped out and I had a lethal blighted agent. Why did he not pick up after I won on the stack? It is just strange because it seemed like he though I would not turn the card sideways at that point.
>>47332923
What's wrong with waiting till the game is over to consider it over?
Why is Sultai not a good modern deck? Is it lack of bolt?
>>47332974
Because everyone knows it is over, there is clear lethal and rounds are timed.
>>47332982
>Is it lack of bolt?
Yup. Bolt Snap Bolt gives you a LOT of reach in a format where people are cracking fetches. There's also no UB/UG cards worth running. Baleful Strix when?
>>47332993
Then just do your turn and get the lethal damage applied. Why bitch about them not conceding when you can just do your turn and finish it?
If it isn't over, it isn't over.
>>47333013
Because it is a waste of time. Is over and winning is a formality now.
>>47333024
Or you could whine less and just finish it. one turn shouldn't take long enough to make a difference on the clock. If it does, you're playing slow.
>>47333024
Maybe he's just being nice because turning that big guy sideways is fun and he doesn't want to take that away from you.
>>47328686
There's more burn spells in jeskai than counter spells. Not sure which lists you are looking at.
>>47313772
>playing
Jeskai control w/o nahiri, 8rack
>brewing
UB faeries
>next purchase
Kalitas, traitor of ghet
I tried brewing a fairie list that doesn't use AV, since I don't like it that much.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/05-05-16-ub-faeries/
Does it look viable?
>>47314684
Nicol bolas isn't really that good, but running him is understandable bc he's just that cool.
You could replace him with Cruel Ultimatum though.
What deck would be most effective in the following meta? Here's what people play at my store:
Jund / 8Rack
Jund
Jund
Naya Burn / Storm
Affinity
Abzan CoCo
Naya Burn / Elves
Infect
Tron
>>47334583
Obviously Jund or Infect.
Also I bet those 2 guys that play Naya Burn/Combo are fucking retards or can't afford a legacy deck.
>>47334583
Ad Nauseam with 4x mainboard Leyline of Sanctity, Tron has no relevant interaction beyond Karn/Ulamog eating lands, which usually won't happen until turn 4 (when you're set to Pact their threat and go off on upkeep), Jund can't beat you without discard or Lili (which is slow enough that you need to draw like shit at the same time), 8rack nor Burn can beat Leyline if you also land a Phyrexian Unlife vs Pack Rat/Guide beatdowns. If you play 1 Lighting Storm and 1 Laboratory Maniac you can beat Coco's infinite life, only bad MU of the bunch is Infect which gets better after sideboarding 1-2 Slaughter Pacts (which can be found with Tolaria West) and 4 Darkness (requires a Spell Pierce if they try to go balls deep).
>>47313783
Why isn't grixis a good deck?
>>47313772
Can someone explain to me how this card is meant to be used?, I can't quite wrap my head around it.
>>47335418
It's not that it's a bad deck, it's just that a lot of Magic players are too afraid to branch out and bring non-meta decks to tournaments because for some reason a lot of players care more about their win/loss ratio and their image rather than just enjoying the game.
>>47313772
Been testing a esper tokens brew for a while. Does quite well versus jund, abzan coco, and infect. burn and control decks give it a hard time. Turn 4 emrakuls happen quite frequently.
>>47334875
It's the latter.
>>47335418
My guess is that Grixis control doesnt have great win conditions, like the new Nahiri control deck, so it has a hard time closing out the game even if it does stabilize the board.
Grixis delver can deal damage better, but it's a strategy that doesnt work well against a creature heavy meta, one where your opponents can land something bigger. It's a deck that works best against control and combo because you can race and disrupt them better than an aggro deck.
>>47335524
http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=12398&d=271306&f=LE
Get it in the graveyard, sacrifice your creatures, and get a bunch of zombies.
>>47329713
Build loam pox. But!dont play the bad cards and make it a dedicated control deck using Molten Vortex instead of Zombie Infestation.
>>47334333
>Does it look viable
>fae
There's your answer already. No
>>47335760
... So it actually does nothing while in play?
>>47335923
yes it does, it adds 3 devotion c:
>>47330203
If you play affinity why are you building elves? They're essentially the same except elves are worse
>>47335524
Put it in graveyard, when any of your shit dies, you get a 2/2 zombie.
Exile it when your opponent sends a creature to the graveyard.
>>47330538
Gitaxian probes to replace dispel
I don't personally like 8 doublestrike effects since they don't stack. I think 6-7 is better, much like how you don't want a full playset of Tasigurs despite him being the best card in hand.
Cool options:
Appostals blessing
Gutshot
Distortion strike
Unstable mutation (slight nonbo with blistercoil)
Twisted image (nonbo with titans strength)
Fatal Frenzy (1 more mana than temur, but it can stack)
>>47335923
That's why it's only played in decks that realistically can't ever cast it.
>>47335923
you play it in legacy decks where the strategy is to force yourself to discard or mill cards from your library and use cards like narcomoeba, ichorid, nether shadow, dread return, cabal therapy, bridge from below and flame-kin zealot to annex the sudetenland.
Snaps are on sale.
Any good decks play them other than Jeskai borefest?
>>47332663
It's very much a work in progress thanks bruv I'll jam more early interaction in
>>47337257
Mardu Pox with Nahiri.
So with Infernal Tutor in Lantern Control mb I figured I might as well play more 1-ofs in the sideboard since I effectively get 2 copies of each, thoughts?
3 Sun Droplet
2 Welding Jar
2 Nature's Claim
1 Extirpate
1 Melira, Sylvok Outcast
1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Sudden Shock
1 Ancient Grudge
1 Warping Wail
1 Pyroclasm (another one in the mainboard along with 1 Pyrite Spellbomb and 2 Abrupt Decays vs problematic creatures)
>>47315864
Two more in my binder. I am selling the shit out of these. She is near max for her price.
>>47337925
Will she go back down or has she hit karn/ugin status?
>>47337973
Karn/Ugin status. The hype is already dying a bit because Grafdigger's Cage is a silver bullet for her ultimate and the decks that play her can't really afford to play artifact hate. I would not be surprised if she ended up a sideboard card in Jeskai.
>>47338008
I mean she will forever be $25-30. But she is not going up anymore than that-- as far as Karn/Ugin status.
>>47338017
Oh okay. Kind of want to play her but i dont have anything atm that she could fit in. Nothing good anyway.
