Should the sisters of battle be Japanese and have Japanese themes to them?
>>47280628
Isn't humanity supposed to varying shades of post-racial tan in 40k?
>>47280628
weeaboos already got their weeaboo race in the Tau
>>47280667
>asian people have their own inhuman alien race, keep them out of my aryan ubermensch fantasies
>>47280628
>>47280692
>>47280650
cease this bait
>>47280667
The irony of that was GW's attempt to market 40k to Japan by pushing the Tau to them. Generic mechas in a market flooded with them, at lower prices. If they had chosen, say, the Sisters (or any army with a more unique aesthetic), 40k may have caught on better in Japan, and not been written off as a market by the geniuses at GW.
>>47280628
I can dig that as a sorority thing but not everyone.
There are way to many world's and groups to just have a single ethnic group.
>>47280628
>Asian sisters
>Not African sisters
>Not Native American sisters
>Not South American sisters
>Not Canadian sister
>Not Eskimo sisters
>Not Middle-eastern sisters
>Not bikini-clad Pacific Islander sisters.
I for one, would actually like to see different ethnic groups in various factions of the game.
>>47280760
I can see sisters as they are being popular with westaboos but gw doesn't seem to think that way.
>>47280760
I don't think the tau were ever aimed at the Japanese. they're designed after 80s and 90s mecha shows seen in Britaun at the time. They're aimed at Europeans bored of the fantasy gothic thing.
>>47280828
>ethnic group
>Canadian
wot
>>47280828
This honestly, not even from a muh diversity standpoint, it's just all-white-people-all-the-time is a bit boring.
That being said, in the specific case for sisters I'd prefer to see them limited to ethnic groups with a strong catholic tradition, because of the whole nun thing.
>>47280898
Yeah, I'm not saying they were specifically designed to appeal to a Japanese market. It's just that when it came time for GW to try and sell 40k to the Japs, that's the faction they promoted.
Seeing as the Western animu of the 80s and 90s was basically shit from the 70s, it's no surprise the Japs found the aesthetic stale and unexciting.
>>47280628
Aren't they Chinese girls?
>>47280828
>>Not bikini-clad Pacific Islander sisters.
I can get behind this idea.
>>47280828
So paint them that way, genius.
>>47280628
Is this the new "female space marines" or "leman russ is the best primarch" period thread?
>>47280628
40k people should look like all sorts of different modern groups/mixed race people. The illustrations aren't great, but the fluff actually explicitly states this.
>>47281630
Um. No. It's we want Japanese waifu as sisters period.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydXtCpYimN8
>>47280628
No they should not
>>47280828
Catrinas!
Very feminine, colorful and with lot of death motives.
>>47280912
You could do what the Catholics did to South America "religions" mix and match.
Right now I can't recall any example, but many rigional festivities are traditional celebrations mixed with Catholic undertones.
>>47280628
>Japanese themes
Like what? Sushi..?
>>47281747
>>47281911
Like in kimonos, lots of flower patterns, maybe throw some traditional geisha.
Side note, sisters of the order Famulous in qipaos. With boob window showing their mighty tattooed Impirial Aquila!
>>47281911
I know you're just baiting, but really?
At least try and be subtle about it.
>>47281944
>Like in kimonos, lots of flower patterns, maybe throw some traditional geisha.
Sounds like a terrible idea.
>>47282000
For the enemies of men!
>>47281911
>>47281911
>being this retarded
>>47282013
No really, more like for people who are reasonable and don't won't out of place estetic choices
>>47282075
Eldar, White Scars, Thousand Sons, Tau, Necrons, Legion of the Damned. A few examples.
Unless you are referring to something else, please enlighten me.
>>47281944
The whole aesthetic for the IoM is baroque. None of that shit mixes with baroque aesthetics. There's plenty of places to indulge your inner weeb, 40k is not one of them.
>>47281944
Well, Sisters already have robe-esque stylings on their power armour with sleeves and the skirt thing.
Having one that was reminiscent of a kimono or yukata isn't much of a stretch and I don't think it's look all that bad.
Flower patterns though, keeping it looking right at heroic scale would be tricky and would look more like you just painted polka-dots on them.
Geisha on the other hand are right out. Doesn't fit, or suit them at all.
Same goes with qipao dresses, especially fetishised one.
I like the fact that racial lines are implied and not in your face... So what if every single spess maren is white, so what if they shoehorned a black dude in dow2...
If in your mind it's a nazi fantasy with Christian overtones thats in your mind, it was never stated specifically that that was the case. If tau are the nips, again that's in your mind, if the orks are what ever... You get it.
It's a fantasy world with over the top fantastic ideas and the matter of "race" is already there in terms of the alien races.
>>47282340
Well thank you mister ork glad you could come down and put these matters to rest
>>47280628
>Should x be Japanese and have Japanese themes to them?
The answer is always no.
>>47280628
Based solely on what happened last time anything vaguely Japanese enter 40k? No, no they should not.
>>47280650
HOW DARE YOU IMPLY WHITE PEOPLE GO EXTINCT?!?!?
>>47282439
>>47282442
To be fair GW marketing team where idiots. Some genius saw robots in Japan and popular in Britain and was like: shit son we need Mr. Robots, Chinese rifle men (fire warriors trooper), but that is not Japanese! Korean, Japan, China same shit!
While in reality Japanese had a huge erection for western things, I'm looking at you maid cafes.
GW simply didn't understood their market in Japan.
>>47282442
Eldar were pretty japanesey too
>>47282491
>Chinese rifle men (fire warriors
Fire Warriors are clearly samurai though.
>>47282491
Meido Sisters of Battle when?
Cleaning up the Galaxy for Emperor-sama, one immolated heretic at a time
They already cater to several pathetic neckbeard fantasies
So sure, why not
>>47282543
Maybe, but they reminded me of Chinese riflemen.
Samurai, Eldar leaders with their little flags on their backs are more samurai.
Also Aztec like sisters.
Since the far sight enclave is clearly supposed to be the shogunate, house long till we see a ban on guns for them?
>>47282549
Will maids be assaulted?
>>47282587
To be fair to the Eldar, they're basically a mix of every ancient/mystical culture under the sun. Drawing on Celts, some Germanic, Greco-Romans, Persians, Egypt, and the Orient.
I didn't mind that Necrons stole the Egyptian stylings since the thematic links between Maugan Ra, Khaine, and the Nightbringer were neat.
>>47282587
>Maybe
No maybe about it senpai.
>Eldar leaders with their little flags on their backs are more samurai.
Eldar are a mash up of several cultures.
>>47282615
Only if their Faith in the Emperor falters.
>>47281938
That image is the best thing I've seen all day.
Kurd Sisters of Battle
>>47282291
>>47282269
I meant Kabuki not Geisha, my bad. Like Picture related, but with power armour.
If by baroque you mean: "artistic style that used exaggerated motion and clear, easily interpreted detail to produce drama, tension, exuberance, and grandeur."
I see your point. Basically anything can be made to fit that style. Regardless of the cultural background.
>>47282269
Is 40k more gothic or baroque?
>>47282718
No, baroque as in Baroque architecture and aesthetics. There is nothing Japanese about that.
>>47282752
It's a blend. But the obsessive over ornamentation, gilding, and high Catholic Church tendencies are very heavily baroque and I'd argue those are fundamental to the aesthetic.
>>47282491
When will this fucking 'Tau were sold to Japan' myth just fucking die.
It wasn't to capture the Japanese Market.
It was to capture the western kiddies growing up on anime.
No 'break into' the Asian market about it.
Also, if you think Fire Warriors are Chinese themed, you seriously need to get your eyes checked.
>>47282521
But not nearly as much as the Tau
>>47280628
Sisters should look like
>THIS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM1BAJOG2no&list=PLy55WVLwDMPlyr7qFDehv8aCI9wnuDvZd&index=11&spfreload=10
>>47282778
Well they reminded me of this guys. That's about it.
>>47282812
Like possessed barbies forced into poses that their skeleton couldn't possibly allow?
>>47282770
For fuck sake Baroque is a style, you can do the over the top ornamentation with anything.
You could have Baroque Mayan pyramids if you figure out how make it over the top.
Egyptian sisters represent
>>47282812
>No Chaplet Ecclesiasticus
>Inquisitorial Rosette
>Heels
>Trash.jpg
>>47282549
Call of Duty Maid Warfare?
>>47283469
>not wanting heels on your Sororitas
It's like you don't even care about high fashion.
>>47280628
>He fell for Yellow fever
>>47280628
>Japanese themes
Stand in the middle of a games shop, comic store, or other vender of "nerd gear," swing a dead cat and then come find me when you don't hit something that isn't Japanese themed. 40k is interesting in part because the aesthetics over the top space Catholicism. Slapping Japanese motifs on there would serve no purpose.
Now, if we're talking individual AS that appear to be more ethnically Japanese or what have you, then we're having a conversation. That could be interesting, but peppering the SoB with cherry blossoms just sounds cringy as fuck.
No, that's stupid. The schola progenum are all over the galaxy, it makes absolutely no sense for them to be of a specific ethnicity.
>>47284176
This isn't a bad idea.
We already have a bunch of Imperial Guard forces using real life armies as a starting point. It wouldn't be a stretch to have a single world with a more Japanese-y theme to it that happens to have a number of Sisters stationed on it.
The rest of them wouldn't have to be changed. And if the Japanese Sisters needed to be tied closer to the rest of the Imperium's visuals/themes, take some inspiration from Kakure Kirishitans or something.
>>47283263
>Being a Necron or a Thousand Son
Heresy
>>47283263
> khopesh
Meh, unattractive sword is unattractive.
>>47282770
>Stop having fun, guys, or I'm gonna cry!
>how dare you defile my pure, perfect, European Gothic :c :c :c
>>47284627
Somehow this anons >>47282075 >>47282770
Where full mad about people wanting to do something different regarding plastics soldiers.
On a side note, going for purely Japanese would be rather silly. Go for "Asian" as the general feel of the Imperium is "European".
Just like Orks are not just Hooligans, but a mix of "Barbarian" idea.
>>47280628
EVERYTHING should be Japanese. We are the master race and the only race on the planet descended from Amaterasu. Our military leaders just managed to fuck up enough in the 1930s that it set the natural order of things back a century or so.
>>47280628
There should be a catgirl order. Also the Officio Assassinorum needs to employ more ninjas.
>>47282890
Yes. Women are for decoration.
>>47285371
Shut it you dirty elevens.
>>47283507
Would be better than any of their past few releases, that much is sure.
>>47283263
power kopesh I would accept, but chainsword with dat curvature?
>>47285580
Oh god his face. I'm having flashbacks about Crossed.
>>47285660
its actually a chain axe
>>47285492
As a grill, you're absolutely goddamn right.
>>47280650
> implying whites don't into space
> implying some plague doesn't wreck Africa
> implying the future 1st world Terra cares enough about them to do anything more than what is being done to help them right now
>>47284627
Imperial Japan Guard might be cool
Tenno Heika Banzai!
>>47280628
Everything about the Sisters of Battle is so deeply rooted in Western European religious culture that it'd be basically impossible to change it now, some three decades later. Any different cultural influences would have to be very subtle to prevent it clashing with the 110% hyper-Catholicism that they're made out of at the moment.
>>47287894
Most Imperial officers run into battle waving swords anyway
Though if anything, the Imperium has better supply and logistics than the IJA ever had. Also, tanks.
>>47288095
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasekura_Tsunenaga#Italy
>>47280828
>Not Middle-eastern sisters
Duh, just put black piece of cloth on unpainted models
>>47287894
>>47284627
We need to make this IG regiment. We already have a psudo Chinese one.
>>47280828
> Middle-eastern sisters
Burqa bitches?
>>47283718
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>>47280628
There is litteraly nothing stopping you from fluffing your order with a Japanese theme. Just give them a fitting logo and maybe glue some Japanese bits on to them, and you are good.
>>47280828
>not Sikh sisters
Do you even indian space paladins?
>>47280628
Nobody plays sisters of battle. The only "people" who play them are shitty no personality neck beards.
>>47280760
>GW
>Marketing
You're a funny guy, anon.
>>47280628
Was this like a one time thing from years ago that has been just slowly recycled? Because I really don't see this game, with its past few years strategy of neglect everywhere but Britbongs as really spread 40k fever abroad
>>47297592
Nobody plays them because they're a faction that gets a half-assed rulebook tossed to them when GW remembers they exist and have a model range last updated in... 2005? 6? It was at least a decade ago. Their core troopers are still shitty metal models from the 90s, so even by GW standards an army is going to be ruinously expensive. And of course, GW looks at this and goes "Sisters aren't selling, not worth revamping them!" instead of managing to puzzle out that a line that's totally neglected doesn't look like an attractive option. So, yeah, nobody plays them, but there's a reason for that.
>>47298321
£50 for 10 sisters, webstore exclusive, PDF-only army book. Most of their line (all? couldn't be assed to check) seems to be webstore only. The most recent models I could see there were from the 2003 3rd edition army book: the core sister infantry are even older than that. Sisters have gone 13 years without a model update and have been pushed into the internet shame corner.
>>47280628
Tau take aspects of Japanese culture (although Relic kind of ruined it when they have all Tau Engrish voices).
Eldar also have elements of Japanese samurai dress and Taoism symbols.
Imperium obviously can have any number of themed Imperial Guard of Space Marine armies.
So no I don't know why you'd want a race clearly based on a French Catholic tradition to suddenly change to a Japanese theme. However, I also can't really deny that it could happen given the diversity of the Imperium.
>>47298417
How popular were they in the first place? I find it hard to believe that past GW would dump an army like that if they weren't profitable.
>>47280628
Also I'm fairly sure they're Chinese.
>>47281938
What is, if she is also into it?
Yes. But only because I'm more attracted to Asian chicks. (not a weeaboo thing, don't like anime. just a yellow fever thing)
>>47282291
Geisha would not work for the Battle Sisters but honestly, as long as you don't go 'Geisha are whores' like an idiot it's not a terrible theme for an order of Famulous.
Respectable, highly sought after women of class and high culture who aid noble families. Though the Famulous use that to manipulate families from behind the scenes.
>>47298484
In 3e? Pretty popular. I remember playing against them a lot. Flamer spam was hell versus Tyranids. Globally I can't say; I don't think GW was releasing that info at the time and they're certainly not now. But anecdotally they were a reasonable minor army.
But GW does this constantly: Remember how nobody played Wood Elves, then there was the 6e wood elf army book and oh shit, where did all these people who want to play wood elves come from! ? I know at least three people who were holding off on Bretts again until they had a new book, because it had to be coming.
GW doesn't understand how to run it's business on a fairly fundamental level. Remember this is the company that proudly said, in a public financial report, that it does no market research and the only obstacles it has are piracy and hiring store managers.
>>47298484
Not fantastically but they were not terrible back in 3e when they had support.
It's weird they never tried to re-invent them like they did with the Dark Eldar, the other major army that wasn't selling very well.
>>47282810
Tau don't compose death haikus.
>>47298484
The only time I ever heard any kind of official figure was that they sold more then DE and Grey Knights, individually, before their big updates.
No numbers though, just that they were not the lowest selling force.
According to one ex-design team member, can't remember which, they were going to get updated first but sculpting 'issues' prevented this. DE came out and showed both a market and that these 'issues' had been solved but then the Kirby and the Board turned around and shelved the update.
Again, details were sparse about this but it seems to fit with every rumour about the Sisters that wasn't 'totes nex guies'.
If this is all true and the new CEO will allow a Sisters update, it'll be over 18 months minimum before they could get released, but according to the last we heard about the Boards decision, they aren't interested in allowing the Sisters an update.
>>47288118
>Though if anything, the Imperium has better supply and logistics than the IJA ever had
That's not really difficult.
>>47287894
I would definitely get behind this. Fanatical guardsmen who have a penchant for charging the foe when pressed, taking dreadful casualties in the process? Refuse to surrender and have to be dug out of whole planets with flamethrowers and orbital bombardments?
>>47298661
>If this is all true and the new CEO will allow a Sisters update, it'll be over 18 months minimum before they could get released, but according to the last we heard about the Boards decision, they aren't interested in allowing the Sisters an update.
It's like how Marines constantly are at the forefront of new releases.
With the company hemoraging money, they likely want to stick to stuff they know sells rather than take a risk. Even if I think it's one that would pay off well.
>>47298661
Allegedly they were going to get more then just a picture or two in that Nid campaign and that the design team has a mostly finished codex on file, along with CAD designs and all they need is permission to actually go ahead.
Allegedly.
>>47298590
>Dark Eldar, the other major army that wasn't selling very well
Weirdly enough, they -also- sat with an early 3e army book for like half a decade. It's like there's some kind of pattern here.
>>47298739
Yeah, that's what really confuses me with the SOB.
They proved that people are interested in badly selling armies if they get the support.
Instead they release the Mechanicus. Don't get me wrong, I like the mechanicus but SOB would have taken a lot less work. They already have designs for their stuff and share the Rhino Chassis. You could release a small upgrade kit for the Rhino/Razorback and bam, that's the SOB done in that area.
>>47298661
>No numbers though, just that they were not the lowest selling force.
You don't want to scrap/neglect the lowest sellers, though. That's bad. Scrapping the lowest seller with no effort to improve them just means you slowly lose lines. Eventually it's just space marines
>inb4 "it's already just space marines"
Instead you want to put the lowest sellers in competition with each other, so you're in a cycle of continuous improvement. It means you have improving quality and, importantly, retain product diversity. Of course, "doesn't do market research" GW will never do this.
All I want are Sister Famulous in qipaos.
Sisters of battle with other cultures mix up with the battle nun style, sure why not.
>>47281938
What is a tenga?
Anime sisters? Keep the current ascetics, add in some vehicles and walker units, less skulls, more eagles and aquilas, and give sisters anime color hair like greens,oranges, purples and blues.
>>47299527
fuck sleeve for masturbating.
>>47280650
>implying a galaxy-spanning empire so horrifically, mind-shatteringly vast that entire systems are routinely lost for thousands of years due to clerical errors in administrative record-banks that span entire planetary continents wouldn't have literally millions of diverse human ethnicities spanning the gamut of physiological features you wouldn't even be able to visualize because there are no analogous people on modern Earth, not to even mention weird mutations, side effects of cloning, genetic engineering, or alien cross-breeding
Nigga, c'mon, you think "vaguely tan" is going to fucking suffice?
>>47299547
That is horrifying if true, thanks for the info friend.
>>47299553
>implying that in the far future everyone who isn't from a [X] IN SPAAACE planet isn't white British by default
This is 40k we're talking about.
>>47301298
Well the British did had an Empire.
With people being white, black, brown, etc.
>>47282549
Here you go!>>47285391
>There should be a catgirl order. Also the Officio Assassinorum needs to employ more ninjas.
Well there are Felinids...
They kinda already have ninja in the form of Callidus...
>>47293044
>GROUND PRESSURE
DO YOU NOT KNOW THE WONDERS OF THE OMNISSIAH?!?!
40k needs more Jojo's. Weebwhiners can go eat a box of salty dicks.
>>47302787
Couldn't agree more
I want to play a Sororitas with a meteor hammer, only it's an censer of incense
