>they want to play "red-haired spunky pyromancer girl" Jaya/Chandra ripoff #671,529,346
>>47185647
>tfw jaya wasn't even a redhead
>>47185647
>They're playing the pyromancer girl who's all fucked up and covered in horrible scars, socially unpleasant and is a chronic firebug
>>47185647
Damn right I do!
>>47185647
No they don't.
>tfw no red/white fire-obsessed knight zealot planeswalker that spits on Gideon and Chandra both
>>47185647
Best pyromancer is chuuni pyromancer anyway.
>>47185647
>red is a good color for fire
>girl with red hair who is a fire mage sounds good
>GM: hurr Chandra ripoff
>remind GM that I've never wasted any money on his children's card game and have no idea who Chandra is
>remind GM that Wheeler from Captain Planet was a red-haired fire-user
>GM pouts and still won't let me play it
>>47185958
But Nice isn't unpleasent at all.
>>47185647
> Jaya/Chandra
Literally who?
The first thing that comes to my mind when I hear "red-haired spunky pyromancer girl" is Lina Inverse.
>they don't want to play red-haired spunky pyromancer girl
>>47185647
>Not mentioning the original.
>>47185647
Fuck off, I said I wanted to play a blue haired qt pyromancer gril you massive fag.
Blue is the stringer flame, after all
>>47186246
>Not carrying around several kinds of salts and metals to colour the flames to your mood and attire with zero effort
Please.
>>47186225
>>47186226
Inversemind.
>Have a story I want to make into a webcomic
>One of the main protags is a pyromancer
>She's a redheaded, hot-head bounty hunter
>Everyone I've talked to about this has told me how cliche she is
I don't want to change her, but I also don't want to slip into the realm of cliche
>>47186336
I've seen that done before with a Fire Mephit in a game. They pretended to be a ghost with green flames.
>>47187334
Change the hot-headed part at least, and make her wear her hair in a ponytail or a bun. And give her glasses.
>>47187334
Post art so I can fap to it.
>>47186386
Shame the role of unhinged flatchest is now attributed to the blue haired gun nut. But hey, at least there's some decent porn of her.
>>47185647
But it makes sense for redheads to by pyros.
After all, Fire is the Devil's only friend.
Redheads make good druids too.
>>47186135
Not really a pyromancer, just a bomber bug.
>>47187334
Let me tell you something anon.
Do whatever the fuck you want. Because even if your idea starts off as the most cliche shit this planet has ever seen, if you continue to develop your character and add layer upon layer then they become completely unique and your own in no time. There is nothing wrong with cliches and archetypes, as I see them as templates or stepping stones when creating characters. Hell, some people even enjoy such things. I'm sure everyone has at least one character archetype they like seeing in a story or at least don't mind. If you feel like your Pyro is nothing but the cliche then you should probably go back to the drawing board.But if you can look at her as a whole and see more of your own ideas rather than just things that fit inside of the "Fiery Redhead #398927" bubble. Then I'd say you're doing it right.
As a side note. Try to never be overly concerned with originality. Because you'll just tear your hair out trying to find a thing that hasn't been done before in some capacity. Which is virtually impossible.
Sorry if I rambled.
>>47185647
>context-free
>one-liner
>shitpost
>#671,529,346
Autists can't NOT post: the thread.
>>47187334
You should change it and yes, it is a cliché.
>make a pyromancer who's nice and fairly well spoken but has 8 wis
>ends up somewhat yandere
>>47188665
>Try to never be overly concerned with originality. Because you'll just tear your hair out trying to find a thing that hasn't been done before in some capacity. Which is virtually impossible.
This. Novelty is nothing worth pursuing.
>>47185958
sauce?
>>47185647
>"Jaya/Chandra ripoff"
>not Lina ripoff
Underage b&
>>47190914
Baccano
>middle-aged blonde/gray-haired sorceress with burn scars and dragon heritage
Wooo not totally unoriginal!
>>47185647
>Chandra ripoff
Does it count that the closest I have in my campaign is a Cleric of the Fire God (Enlightenment) that channels her deity's energy to become it's avatar, the Phoenix?
>>47186169
This.
Do y'all really think the MtG writers were the first people in history to associate red hair with fire powers and/or sanguine temperament?
Get over yourselves.
>jaya died offscreen somewhere
Like, the ONE time I would be okay with fan pandering.
>>47185647
Who?
>>47192136
I'm guessing that this is your DMPC?
>>47187334
Nothing new under the sun, anon.
Someone will think anything is cliche.
Hell, just going against the cliche and coming up with something original is called cliche on /tg/.
>>47187334
Give her a penis elf who sings focus group approved hip hop as a wacky sidekick
>>47192338
Actually no, just the high priest of her church and had no real role in the last campaign when the players had to kick down Satan's door and punch him in the face. Although next campaign, the players will be allying the People of the Ice and when they are removing all religions beside their ascending Ice Goddess, fighting a Phoenix could be pretty awesome
>>47186226
>>47186225
She's more of a destroy-everything-with-nuclear-hellfire-mancer
>>47186198
Some mtg bitches.
Friggin autists thinking their ccg is the end-all for everybody.
>>47192551
She also constantly explodes things with regular grade fireballing.
>>47190914
Not actually from Baccano.
>>47186169
>Wheeler from Captain Planet
Good taste, anon.
>Play a spunky pyromancer
>Nobody knows what hair it has
>Nobody knows if it's a boy or a girl
>Nobody is brave or reckless enough to get in its way
>>47194295
i played him in deathwatch, called him ms. john doe, then when he died he came back as mr. jane doe.
>>47187488
Redheads make good everything.
>>47188665
It's the combination that makes something original, not the sum of its parts. Mashing the cliches in different ways works. Character interaction makes a pair of stereotypes feel more lifelike. Twists, when done well, can make something bland feel brilliant.
But everyone always looks at everything individually instead of appreciating the whole, and that bothers me. How many female main characters in fantasy novels would be considered unoriginal, despite the differing stories they were in?
>>47187334
Ay we're kinda in the same boat. Only difference is the pyromancer isn't the cliche, it'sthe knife girl
Pyromancer is chill af, after all she's just spreading the hot fiery love around
>>47187334
>Redheaded, but has yellow extensions
>Hair dyed red, near the scalp you can see the original color is blue
>Enjoys tea
pick one.
>>47193455
To be fair, doing that is the entire reason you become a pyromancer in the first place.
Fire is pretty.
>>47187334
There are no new ideas, anon. You could think of something utterly novel and someone somewhere will draw a vague comparison to something that already exists.
It's your creation. If you're genuinely proud of it, just fucking roll with the punches. It's your thing that you made. You can add your own personal touches, your own character development. I wrote a short story about a battle hardened space marine and it's by far my favourite piece of work even though every single aspect is cliché to a certain degree.
What's worse, /tg/? A painful cliché, or a blatant self-insert?
>>47186135
What does chuuni even mean ?
>>47185647
Sure.
Get prepared to have your ass handed to you on a platter because I play high lethality settings.
>>47197019
Blatant self-inserts are cringeworthy, but you just said the word "painful".
And that trumps any amount of cringe.
>>47185647
So you're saying we need a depressed blue haired pyromancer boy now?
>>47187334
Make her ugly-ish
>>47197031
Edgy teen.
>>47197031
Its short for chunnibyou, a Japanese term that basically translates to 2nd year Middle School Student Syndrome. It refers to a tendency for teenagers around the age of 13 or 14 to imagine crazy fantasy worlds and scenarios that would make life "cool" and/or interesting and make them special.
>>47187334
Your thinking is insufficiently revolutionary, comrade.
If you like redheadedness - embrace it! Let there be a whole military academy of female pyromancers that forces every participant to dye their hairs red! Let there be lessons and training of Spunkiness! Make a goddamn parade of red-headed pyromancer girls march through town every year!
>>47195866
This picture is disgusting, her hair would stick together from the blood, making it become an ugly, smelly rasta, followed by flies 24/7, redheads always have terrible personalities, and your taste is shit
>>47185647
>Jaya/Chandra
Who?
>>47197111
Pls no more Jace
>>47190833
Yes it is. Repetition makes things boring. Nothing is interesting the hundredth time youv'e seen it.
Only people with no creativity whatsoever dismiss originality as impossible or not valuable.
>>47187334
If I were you, I would simply make sure to develop her beyond "hot-headed." Just develop some reasons for WHY she's hot-headed, or some situations where she ISN'T so hot-headed, stuff like that. Give her hobbies and think of why she might enjoy them, especially ones she finds relaxing.
>the rest of the party realizes Fireball McRedhead is missing, expects the worst
>goes looking
>finds her in the middle of a forest clearing meditating
>she opens an eye: "Oi, fuck off, you fuckers, I'm trying to find my zen."
>on the way back the party wizard remarks that's the most polite thing he's ever heard her say
>>47187399
>And give her glasses.
dubs of truth
>>47197630
Magic blood. No, seriously, what if the lizardman had super dangerous blood of some sort? Imagine how useful it'd be to be able to whip your hair around and smack someone across the face and have their skin start sizzling and melting?
>>47196961
>Enjoys tea
Now I want to play a genderswapped version of Uncle Iroh
>>47200968
I like it, but if that's the case wouldn't you want that shit in a vial or something, as opposed to in your hair? Wouldn't it make the hair sizzle anyway?
>>47185647
Who wouldn't want to be chandra?
>>47200994
so you gonna drop a source on that right
>>47187334
People worried about cliches aren't fit to write or give writing advice. Execution has always been more important than novelty in regards to critical examination, staying power and sales. It's only in the hypothetical that originality is important. Else we wouldn't fall in love with the same stories and characters over and over again.
If you can make this character work then go for it. You don't need to do anything at all to set her apart, you just have to make people care about this red-hot bounty hunter more than the next red-hot bounty hunter.
>>47204513
no?
first result on google. You should be able to find it.
>>47204513
I found one pretty easily and will tell you in advance that it is nothing worth checking out.
>>47204603
Usually cropped/edited stuff like that is a lot harder to source. If you found it with Google they must have edited your source based on browser history because this is what I got via a browser that doesn't normally use Google. I can't find it on the panda, either, at least not by searching "Chandra."
>>47204617
At this point I'm just kind of halfheartedly searching for the sake of curiosity
>>47187334
Instead of a hothead, make her motherly and/or a destructive klutz.
>>47204695
Spoiled for giving away source and ruining your search.For censored porn, it's easier to just search the character or artist on a relevant site. Check Chandra on Danbooru. I'd like it but I already closed the tab.
>>47200827
You've given me my next character concept. Thanks for saving me the time.
>>47199093
Sure, you can TRY to pursue originality, but you'll have a hard time finding anything original.
