>when EA and Battlefield make a more 40k trailer than an actual 40k game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7nRTF2SowQ
Pay the fuck attention, whoever on the Deathwing team decided female mariachi rap was a good idea for a gothic setting trailer.
This is how you do fitting, anachronistic music. This game is so much more brutal and 40k-esque it's painful to watch the DW trailer anymore.
...are you high?
>>47175222
Seven Nation Army is the most bland, overdone garbage that exists you fucking idiot.
>>47175432
And still manages to sound better than https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQDK6x1i8jY
Sorry but "I'm a hipster" isn't a valid justification for crap.
>>47175222
>>47175458
>the Deathwing team decided female mariachi rap was a good idea for a gothic setting trailer
What?
>>47175222
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuRxjjcPgOo
>Motorhead, 1916.
>There is nothing more suitable for this game, lest we forget the horrors and glorify a war we can scarcely imagine watching.
>>47175432
As someone who usually listens to dad rock I'd agree with you but I've been listening to that song on loop for the past 48 hours and humming it while at work.
Anyway, has anyone on /tg/ ever done a WWI campaign? I think it's an interesting idea.
>>47175222
I mean, literally any sabaton doing would have worked better. Shit you could probably contract then to write an entirely new song.
Good god damn why the white stripes though? What an awful band.
>>47175222
Ah, so EA watched the End of the Line trailer, I see. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmVsOl9qAhs
>>47175595
Or Iron Maiden, instead they went for a shitty pop rock band that has a vague reference to war with seven nation army.
This is how you do a fantasy game cinematic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRnabRRi1ik
>>47175222
What a waste of good trips, anyway, the new Deathwing trailer was great and i hope DoW 3 is worth it
>>47175458
God damn you're a new level of retard. I never said the Deathwing trailer was good, just that the BF1 trailer's choice of music is about as generic and thoughtless as you can possibly get.
>>47175675
I quite like their two first albums.
I'm right now discovering their latest and I'm less than convinced.
>>47175595
Jesus that broke me down.
>>47175222
Fuck off, OP.
I like White Stripes, but Seven Nation Army is a TERRIBLE choice for a game set during The Great War.
I'd personally have liked an ironic use of a period appropriate war song.
For example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15VhmNB_6Y4
>>47175805
>their latest
Didn't they break up nearly a decade ago or something? You're right, though, De Stijl is the fucking shit. I'd take everything up to White Blood Cells, everything after was kinda bad.
>>47175458
The trailer could have been straight up war drums and Georgian chants to the glory of the emperor and youd bitch is was more of the same.
The problem is you.
>>47175521
Okay, I just watched it and now I want to see the Deathwing riding around in lowrider rhinos or something.
>>47175932
I dunno, I started listening like two year sago, got the two first albums and stopped there. I've not been a dedicated follower of any band since I decreased my consumption of various types of metal something like 5 years ago. Currently I'm only vaguely keeping an eye on Trollfest and Blues Explosion.
>>47175222
Mariachi rap is better than Seven Nation Army. It's like fucking Walking on Sunshine at this point.
>Hurr, but dey distorted it
Which makes it worse than in its original form.
>>47175911
A lot of songs were a bit too cheerful at the start of the war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh99b0a3hF0
https://youtu.be/sHqanal52Gk?t=28
A lot of the truly sad songs were written after the war, sometimes well after.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG48Ftsr3OI
Interestingly, Irving Berlin wrote some a fairly biting anti-war piece:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ng8RRiWFdEg (better version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moATxAhX-HY) (weirder version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txpwTG7KP3k)
And as we all know, of course, Ol' Irving changed his views pretty fast and became a proper, American, patriotic icon.
Before
>>47176019
If you liked the first two I'd recommend taking the step to get their third album, it's a classic. This is all subjective, of course.If you're into metal you should give the new Amon Amarth album a listen, it's pretty /tg/.
>>47175675
>Sabaton
t. I like cargo shorts
>>47175222
>judging a game based on a song selection for a trailer released a year before the game goes live
I dont even know what to say.
Would have preferred something less modern:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiOJ07nyfM4
>>47175222
>Glitch Mob soundtrack for an FPS
>Anything other than Warrior Concerto
Dun goofed, EA.
>>47175831
I know right? Thats some heavy stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXcs1Vv3YlE
Y'know, Battlefield 1 is the first time I've started questioning the morality of historical war shooters. The extent it glorifies these wars is troubling.
>>47176088
>A lot of songs were a bit too cheerful at the start of the war.
That's the whole idea.
Trailer starts off all heroic and shit, shipping off to Europe to whup the huns but good, and be home for Christmas, waving goodbye to his wife and young son, and then when he gets to the front, things take a darker turn. Lots of shots of intense, brutal, close combat here. Shotgun blasts to the face at close range, trench knives in the throat, a body crushed by the treads of a Mk. 1 tank, that kinda thing. Blood. Everywhere. During this segment though, include those moments of the good. Sharing a bar of chocolate from home with the lads, a bottle of wine while sheltering from rain in a French barn, the moments of brotherhood and decency that shine through all that. Then finish out the trailer with him coming home, alive but... changed. Something weary behind his eyes, as he greets his wife and son at the train station.
>>47175222
Viral marketing isn't allowed on this site. Either buy a self serve ad or fuck off back to r/shekels
>>47176353
>That's always been an issue for me with the Modern Warfare kinda stuff. I grew up on military bases, it was hard to reconcile seeing these guys day-to-day with a game that turned their service into...well, a game.
CoD games (up to 4 or WaW I think) used to display quotes from famous people during loading screens and after you died. Most of them related the horrors of war or were outright anti-war, to help give the players a sense of perspective in between shooting Nazis. The WW2 Medal of Honor games did something similar.
Paradoxically, the jump to a modern setting caused this to stop. Somehow when the games moved to a war that was still ongoing (or plausible in the near future) they came to glorify the fighting more. I'm not sure if it was a shift in player culture, developer culture, or both, but it's certainly noticeable.
Based on the Battlefield 1 trailer it looks like DICE is going to continue the same tone into what is indisputably the most horrifying war ever wage.
>>47175222
I thought the DW trailer was baller
>>47175222
>m-muh mariachi shit!
Kek, this is how I know you're 12.
Deathwatch trailer was perfectly fine, stay mad.
OP confirmed babby who wouldn't know quality if it shoved it's dick up his ass.
then again, op's ass is so wide at this point from EA and Activision that he wouldn't even feel it.
>>47176570
They only stopped for Black Ops, I think. The first Modern Warfare had quotes during death too.
>>47176715
The story of the first Black Ops was pretty pessimistic already, if I remember correctly.
>>47175222
>wub wub
>40k
Maybe for some faggy Eldar our Tau race but not for the Imperium you turbo fag. Also the mariachi was odd but neat.
![mf_british_tank_01[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/L2yA4ga.jpg "mf_british_tank_01[1].jpg")
>>47176245
Really? The first time?
Time to warm up those critical thinking muscles.
>>47176317
That might be a good game, but it's not this game. This game is a modern on-rails console shooter bolted to a a team-based multiplayer experience. None of that says "deep exploration of the horrors of war" to me. This isn't Spec Ops: the Line here.
>>47176916
>Also the mariachi was odd but neat.
Shit opinion discarded.
>>47177747
>This isn't Spec Ops: the Line here.
>Spec Ops: the Line
>deep
They had to remove the ability to NOT use the white phosphorous because testers who DIDN'T KNOW about the civilians were refusing to use it. They force you to do a bad thing, then try to make you feel like you somehow made a choice there. It'd be like if I texted you a picture of my cock, then called you a faggot for having a picture of another dude's cock on your phone.
The game was a neat twist on Heart of Darkness/Apocalypse Now, but its primary "point" falls flatter than a 12 year old boy.
>>47176625
>>47176916
>actually defending shitty rap
>with female vocals
>for 40k
>>47175933
More like the problem is you and your shitty strawman. "You would have bitched even if it weren't as shit" doesn't change shit from being shit.
>>47178858
And on top of all that, the gameplay was mediocre to bad, too. I enjoyed the game well enough, but its no Six Days in Fallujah.
>>47175432
I hate the fucking white stripes. DGAF what anybody says, they're garbage.
>>47175521
Fuck you I liked it.
>>47178972
It was good until she started rapping. Doesn't fit Deathwing unless you make an obtuse DW = Native American = Wild West = Mexican leap.
>>47178858
Well you must admit, compared to Battlefield campaigns, it's a Proustian masterpiece of themes and meaning.
>>47176781
Black ops storyline is kinda shit.
>>47176570
>the jump to a modern setting caused this to stop
When you try to seriously explore recent military events in a video game, rather than just making what amounts to a cheesy action flick in game form, people get offended and your publisher pussies out, in spite of your project being started at the behest of a bunch of the guys who were actually there, as a means of sharing their experience and helping others to better understand what they went through.
Vidya have amazing potential as a way to share experiences with people, but as long as the general public just sees them as toys, they'll never be able to realize it, because any attempt at more serious subject matter is accused of "trivializing" or "cheapening" the events explored.
>>47176570
I dunno. I recently did a playthrough of MW2 for old times sake and it really does quite abit to drive home how bad war can be.
No Russian aside, the fights through sub-urban USA, the walk through the bunker and the great number of bodybags and wounded soldiers and then trying to claw your way through the ruins of DC.
I think MW sold their War is Hell bit pretty well.
>>47179031
We don't need the music to fit thematically with the particular astartes chapter, especially in a medium-length trailer. The point of the track is to enforce the scene's tone and match up with the action beats of whatever's happening. The song they chose created a dolorous and slightly mysterious tone, before becoming intense. The beats in the rap matched up with different weapons, before going to the trumpets with all the terminators doing their killing as a single unit. It would have been very easy for them to just put Latin chanting which builds up and goes towards a single crescendo; or even worse, ninety seconds of generic action rock from two decades ago or more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGmmXd8r4YQ
>>47175222
Fuck you, the deathwing shit was cool
>>47175704
Honestly better use of the song than EA's. Probably because they actually remixed it instead of just playing the song straight.
All argument aside, we can all agree that activision are going to burn in a special circle of hell for raping bowie's corpse with THEIR trailer, right?
>>47178872
>>with female vocals
That matters for some reason? Now I KNOW your 12
>>47175728
Say what you want about Blizz. Their art department does good work.
ITT modern songs that would have made more appropriate trailer music for BF1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0YxeTjFn70
>>47179123
Pity the vocals don't fit. But that's probably unavoidable for studios without the budget and/or internal talent to record their own music.
Now lets look at that trailer from the perspective of a marketing department: It was released in February last year. People are still arguing over the music choice which means two things:
- New people keep hearing about Deathwing every time the argument happens
- They aren't hearing anything bad about the game. Just the music choice in the trailer.
>>47179567
>Pity the vocals don't fit
What part of, "I have short hair," did you not understand? It's a song about the destructive effects of hairesy.
>>47175458
It's an odd choice of song, but some of the lyrics actually seem fitting for a Space Hulk game, especially that first stanza. And it's not a bad song in of itself.
>>47176088
Those long uneven lines
Standing as patiently
As if they were stretched outside
The Oval or Villa Park,
The crowns of hats, the sun
On moustached archaic faces
Grinning as if it were all
An August Bank Holiday lark;
And the shut shops, the bleached
Established names on the sunblinds,
The farthings and sovereigns,
And dark-clothed children at play
Called after kings and queens,
The tin advertisements
For cocoa and twist, and the pubs
Wide open all day;
And the countryside not caring:
The place-names all hazed over
With flowering grasses, and fields
Shadowing Domesday lines
Under wheat’s restless silence;
The differently-dressed servants
With tiny rooms in huge houses,
The dust behind limousines;
Never such innocence,
Never before or since,
As changed itself to past
Without a word – the men
Leaving the gardens tidy,
The thousands of marriages,
Lasting a little while longer:
Never such innocence again.
When a thread goes off-topic, isn't it supposed to be over the pic, not the song?
We're putting in effort above and beyond, here, is all I'm saying.
>>47179623
The only song that should play in a Space Hulk made from Imperial ship debris:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsfjHCFosw
>>47179878
>SPONSONS ARE RETARDED
>MUH HULL THICKNESS
>JEWS CAUSED BOTH WORLD WARS
>>47179878
It's not really off topic.
OP was praising the song choice because he has shit taste.
>>47179913
If you think the mariachi music is better you can't really criticize others' tastes.
>>47179913
>implying the trailer isn't good despite the music
>implying the music doesn't interfere with the trailer as hard as the DW one
So good taste is white female rappers?
>>47179882
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGNxebZXOxA
I know it's already a 40k game, but that music at 1:35 was perfect.
>>47175222
Deathwing trailer was cool. But I'm somebody who can actually have some lighthearted fun and doesn't need to take all the grimderpness super seriously.
Also this is obviously the music they should have used for Battlefield.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v4n6srZxDY
I don't know why they've decided to abandon their classic theme. It's more suitable for a World War 1 game than for any of the modern games they've put out.
>>47175222
WHY DIDNT THEY USE THE CLASSIC THEME???
Reeeeeeeee
>>47175222
>Battlefield WWII was called 1942
>Battlefield Modern warfare was called 2, like in 2000
>Battlefield WWI is called 1
I am sure there were no tanks in 1000AC
>>47180126
Because it is a reboot of the saga, like Battlefront.
They want you to forget about the good ol times.
>>47176317
>Shotgun blasts to the face at close range
Fuck me, this might be a hard game for the historically inclined.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7fkViCihRA
This guy did a good job, but still has holes.
Europeans didn't use shotguns as they were historically hunting weapons and insulting to use on a man, when the Americans brought them at first they were disgusted they would use a weapon like that on a man, and then they saw the kill rates, even so they didn't see long term use. Also the best shots with it were tasked with shooting grenades out of the air.
Also that's an english flamethrower design.
>>47175458
That's because the song goes over your head you retard. It's a reference to Spanish Fascism and uses Spanish Catholic religious music. Using it is one big reference to the Dark Angels being Catholic Space Knights.
>>47176019
Trollfest is the reason that, whenever they appear in my setting, they're Balkanized. Balkan music just has that hint of hyperactivity and basedness that befits the chaotic nature that your average folklore troll has. Add to that Sliwowicz, fucking awesome gibberish language, will constantly talk shit about other trolls but they all agree that the Albanian trolls are the worst, and best above all: They all love the troll version of Goran Bregovic.
Perfect fantasy race, Dwarves can git rekt.
I am still mad that they don't use the original battlefield theme
>>47179031
>>47179123
I thought it was good after 1.10. Gave it a sort of desperadoes last stand vibe
Some /k/ommando did it better.
http://vmashup.com/ucYUtLHN
>>47179123
>>47182290
Second, I love the Mexican/Spanish trumpet, for some reason it seems fitting with the Angel themed chapters like DA and BA. Especially the heroic/mournful stuff.
>>47175222
>tfw you'll never slaughter heretics in Battlefield 30k
>>47175521
That music is anything but mariachi you retard.
>>47178972
>>47182582
Why the hell are you getting angry?
It's OP who called it mariachi music, and I hadn't seen the trailer until it was mentionned in this thread. I was genuinely wondering what they were talking about.
>>47176245
Then have you not seen a single WW2 shooter?
>>47180926
Actually their disgust was primarily because, thanks to the lack of a trigger disconnector and the premiere infantry weapons of the day being bolt-action rifles, single-stack pistols, and largely immobile water-cooled machine guns, a man with a shotgun had the capacity to turn a trench into a lake of blood and the mobility to get there quickly. One of the most painful casualties of WWI was the mentally of War as a gentlemanly, noble pursuit, which simply couldn't hold up in the face of advancing technology.
>>47182119
Is there a game about playing a bunch of mismatched, ugly, noisy monsters? Except pic related?
>>47178858
>They force you to do a bad thing
>force
Yeah, it's not like you could refuse to do it and exit the game.
>>47175728
That's called a cinematic and it literally takes a couple afternoons to put together. If you're going to reference old Blizzard's greatness at least post the Brood War intro or somthing.
>>47184518
I'm sorry, I payed $60 for a game with the intention of PLAYING said game, not quitting halfway through because the developers' approach to moral dilemmas has all the subtlety of Gallagher.
>>47184911
*Animatic, rather.
I just wanted the original theme back. I mean we still have the orchestral 1943 theme but still.I would have rathered Battlefield: 2143
>>47185016
Nope, we're tired of Sci-Fi shooters apparently.
I like the original trailer for deathwing. I don't get what people's problems with it are.
That being said, the ecstasy of gold version is better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJxCZxYfjdM
>>47185081
Apparently.
I'm still baffled at how the general gaming public is shitting all over Activision and Call of Doop doops while absolutely choking on the EA Battlefield dick.
Like there are major gameplay differences sure but when boiled down the two companies are more or less the same shitty type so how's EA winning this one right now?I just want my dumb TITAN fights with the stupid drop-pod APCs again man.
WWI is an interesting subject that isn't covered often but I really don't think DICE will give it the seriousness and somberness it deserves.
>>47180926
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Model_1897
>>47185663
There's a fundamental disconnect between the horrors of the first world war (you're insignificant and powerless in the face of titanic forces and mechanized slaughter, basically meat thrown into a grinder) and the realities of a multiplayer FPS (WHOO I SHOT TONS OF GUYS WITH A COOL GUN, ME AND MY FRAT BRO CHAD ARE DOMINATING THIS MATCH! I GOT SHOT? SAD TIMES BRO, I'LL MEET YOU WHEN I RESPAWN)
>>47186013
The only bit of the war which would seem to work from the FPS point of view is trench raiding, though that was more commonly carried out with a clutch of grenades and a home-made club or dagger.
The last shot in the trailer reminds me of the story of the first zeppelin to get shot down. The Germans had been using them to bomb the UK since 1915, but fighter aircraft and AA were unable to damage them. In September 1916 one Leefe Robinson, whose aircraft was equipped with incendiary bullets for the task, managed to catch up to one and set it on fire by unloading all of his ammunition into it. Crowds watching from below bellowed out the national anthem as the German crew leapt to their deaths from the blazing airship.
>>47185663
>Something something "Alternate" WW1 setting
>>47182516
I agree on that. I understand why people don't like the rapping but since it's not the cinematic release or similar i think its better to set the tone because thats also a way of telling the people how's the pace of your game to be
>>47185158
>It's an autist shoehorns something they like into something else and calls it better episode
Better change the channel.
>>47179694
My fucking lad, Larkin is the shit
Yeah, I think uh... I think it would have been better if they used a 'happy' WWI patriotic song and just showed the horrors of war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6hRDS3LvQQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXHIRsJRZDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzpOZE3Sw7g
I particularly like the last one, because you can still end the with the final shot where a guy is staring down a zeppelin and hit it with the last line of the chorus...
>>47175222
>Two second clip
>BASSSSSS
>Two second clip
>BASSSSSS
>Two second clip
>BASSSSSS
>main character says some words
Paint by numbers
>>47175630
>ww1 campaign
naw nigga, that's lame baby stuff.
What you want is some of that Russian Civil War. It's got everything you need. All the best WW1 tech, armored trains, a huge clusterfuck of armies and volunteers from everywhere getting in on the action.
Fuck, there's even the Black army of Ukraine in the mix. An actual literal army of anarchists.
The scale is smaller, the lines more blurred, and there's a lot more opportunity for someone who just showed up to bust some gommies or to fight for international revolution. without being part of any particular rigid chain of command at any given moment.
>>47175630
>ww1 campaign
We're foot, slog, slog, slog, sloggin' over africa
foot, foot, foot, foot, sloggin' over africa
boots, boots, boots, boots, moving up and down again
There's no discharge in the war
>>47185663
>>47186013
>>47186358
Either every war deserves a somber tone, or no war should force people to think in good taste.
We've seen straight up cartoons jerking off WW2 and other wars with patriotic nonsense. Hell, there's even an entire subcategory about FPS games that use conflicts that are STILL happening. The only war to get even a bit of respect and not get turned into a cartoon would be the US portion of the Vietnam war, but even then the whole "PTSD ridden 'nam war vet" is often played up as a joke.
>>47190186
My view is that every war deserves a somber tone, which is why I don't plakn FPS games based on real conflicts. This is just a personal thing, I don't judge people for enjoying those games, it's just not for me.
>>47179120
I thought Modern Warfare 2 really handled the nuclear strike on Washington DC poorly. Not nearly as "Oh shit" as it should have been.
>>47190186
I'm just talking from the point of view of game mechanics. I just don't know if bolt action rifles lend themselves as well to the whole FPS thing, the only part that seems a natural fit is running around in trenches lobbing grenades and shanking Huns. There weren't any submachine guns until the very closing stages, and even then not much more than prototypes. Light machine guns are still the kind of thing that needs to be fired from a prone position. WW1 is going to be a challenge for them to get the combat right in without utterly abandoning any realism.
>>47192047
They're using an alternate history WW1, which is fairly obvious from the trailer.
>>47175222
>everything I watch must be related back to 40K!
You really ought to kill yourself
>>47175595
>>47175714
>hurr my shitty mainstream kiddie shit metal is better than your shitty mainstream kiddie shit pop rock
No. It's really not. Metal as a genre is fucking garbage
>>47192125
I want /mu/ to leave
>>47192160
You started it, m8.
And you don't have to be /mu/ to recognize how garbage metal is. It's not like I'm saying to listen to ground concrete post-post-pop pre-post-op applecore in its stead
>>47192193
I'm not the guy you were talking to previously, but anyways, why is metal so trash, huh?
>>47192233
It's garbled, rushed, talentless, and hides all these under the guise of "rebelliousness" and "LOL OMG SO EPIC". It's fucking half-assed nonsense is what it is.
All you gotta do is garble out some half-understood syllables about the Bloodromation Blade of Bohr'grawn'lokho-mir while playing a guitar fast and aimlessly wailing on the drums like a goddamn muppet and you're the most epic-est hardcore metal band in existence.
>>47192070
>which is fairly obvious from the trailer
Though the action is obviously stylised, which bits from the trailer do you think make it 'obvious' that it's alternate history rather than WW1 with a bit of artistic license?
>>47192364
Since when was WW1 in Africa?
>>47192401
Wait, I'm fucking retarded, the Ottomans were doing shit in Africa.
It's just the part of WW1 that no one really cares about.
>>47192319
You seem like the kind of person who uses the term 'cringe' unironically.
>>47192401
Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck. Learn him. Love him.
>>47192319
Jesus christ.
Not to be THAT guy, but if it's so easy, why doesn't everyone do it? The fact of the matter is that it IS difficult on a technical level. Just listen to Metallica's Battery and tell me that isn't masterful.
Get over yourself, plebian trash
>>47192401
Arabia, as in Lawrence thereof. Other shots in the trailer show what I believe is Italians getting mown down in the Alps. People tend to forget that they and the Austrians (the ones who started the whole thing, after all) lost huge numbers of men fighting each other.
>>47192543
I have met more than one person who thought Lawrence of Arabia's adventures were part of WW2
>>47192401
And the black guy is probably from the Harlem Hellfighters...
>>47178858
I know that the WP was supposed to be the Big Bad Thing You Did, and perhaps the fact that it was sort of spoiled for me before I played lessened its impact, but for me the biggest feels were from that letter at the end (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xOPqTzeU8E&feature=youtu.be, @9:45)
>>47192705
Already confirmed as being a Harlem Hellfighter. Of course there were a shit load of black colonial troops that fought all over the world during WW1, and Australia had a number of Aboriginal soldiers in its ranks, so they didn't need to make the black character African-American if they wanted to inject some colour into the protagonist.
>>47192503
>listens to metal
>calls others plebs
Lel
>>47192438
And you seem like the dirt of guy who would unironically use the phrase "epic for the win!".
>>47192772
ur having a meltdown
>>47192047
Ever played the Napoleonic Wars expansion for Mount and Blade? That's a game where fucking MUSKETS turn into a tense team based multiplayer shooter/stabber - all you need is a robust melee system for when people get up close with each other in the trenches and an authentic WW1 shooter could work fine from a gameplay perspective. The trailer gives me the impression that they're going to put prototypes from all parts of the war into every single person's hands to increase weapon diversity though, so this game will probably just turn out to be BF4 without parachutes.
>>47192401
Wow.
Would it blow your mind if I told you that Japan was on the Allies' side during WW1, and blew the shit out of a bunch of German colonies in Asia?
>>47181246
>rap
>going over someone's head
Maybe if it wasn't literal ear rape people would "get it" more.
>>47192953
>inb4 9mm TWINLINKED Anti-Aircraft Submachine guns
>>47191782
I'd put money on them hearing the reaction to the nuke scene/level from MW1 (which was HOLY FUCKING SHITBALLS AMAZING, IMO) and deciding that nuke levels were now A Thing That Must Be Done, like The Tank Level and The Sniper Level
>>47193092
So who'd you say is the worst offender for the escalation of HOLYSHIT moments: Infinity Ward, Treyarch, or Sledgehammer?
>>47179123
Honestly, it's a more creative trailer
>>47193204
Infinity Ward, definitely, considering they just started throwing in mass-slaughter of innocents for the holyshit moments. The Paris VX attack is a perfect example.
>>47192736
Very true. Colonial troops hugely outnumbered black Americans in WW1. India alone mobilised nearly 1.5 million, and the French used hundreds of thousands of Africans. I suppose it's just another example of how the only minority that anyone really cares about representing is African American.
>>47193029
>le rap is crap \m/ metal muhlitia
>>47190823
That's a perfectly valid answer as well.
>>47175595
Too sombre for it to be marketable to the call of battleduty squirts.
High octane explosive biplanes says enough about the direction they're going with this.
>>47195048
I think there was a saying that your standard "AAA FPS" has to be sold like a Michael Bay film.
>>47192953
That style of gameplay backed up by Red Orchestra style PTSD enducing sound design and explosions would be pretty amazing.
>>47195242
>and explosions
the gas would be what I'd be interested in. Rolling, choking clouds, having to fight in the claustrophobic mask..
I mean with all the shelling and machinegun fire it'd basically be a flat out horror game. And then you get to watch people murder prisoners of war and eat their own fingers.
>>47195348
Or maybe have a mission where you spend most of the game trying to kill rats that are trying to eat you while you sleep.
>>47195489
>player character develops trench foot over the course of the game
>>47195348
Mustard gas is very definitely a 'the goggles do nothing' kind of stuff. Exposure kicks in a day or so later, as all your skin turns to blisters. Don't know how you represent that in game.
>>47184518
That's why I stopped playing shadow of the colossus, desu
>>47179055
BLOPS1 has literally the ONLY good Call of Duty storyline retard. BLOPS2 fucked it all up.
This thread is proof that /tg/ is full of hipsters.
>>47182182
So much this.
>>47175222
Watching that crashing folker plane- made of next to nothing- completely obliterating a stone watchtower kind of ruined the effect... the plane would have basically crumbled against the side of it.
>>47197443
Well, you're right and wrong. If the engine crashed into it first than maybe you have a chance of creating an explosion. For the most part, you are totally right. Like a paper-airplane it would just crunch.
>>47176245
>Y'know, Battlefield 1 is the first time I've started questioning the morality of historical war shooters. The extent it glorifies these wars is troubling.
This. Disturbing. All quiet on the western front is what should the kiddies watch
>>47175222
you are one stupid fucker
it's strange i don't have a problem with fps games based on real life wars, but i feel that World war 1 should be left alone, there is no way the medium of gaming can portray the horror of the war without cheapening it
>>47175222
>Pay the fuck attention, whoever on the Deathwing team decided female mariachi rap was a good idea for a gothic setting trailer.
>Hurr durr, grimdark, gothic, metal
>In grim grimness of grim grimness there is only grim grimness
Deathwing trailer still is the best trailer for 40k games.
>>47184975
Yeah, and you cannot AWOL from war without being thrown in a federal maxsec prison.
Of course you were in your right to enjoy the game, as people is in their right to obey unethic orders to save their necks.
>>47197627
Verdun is not too bad.
>>47197627
Oh fuck off. You should either never be okay about war being glorified in the first place or you should accept that anything can be exploited.
Besides, the Great War is the basis of so many modern political issues and the average person knows fuck all about such an important period that this may lead people to look up things about the Great War, and then maybe even realize that war should never be supported if the horrifying shit that was in the Great War is what war can become.
>>47186013
>There's a fundamental disconnect between the horrors of the first world war (you're insignificant and powerless in the face of titanic forces and mechanized slaughter, basically meat thrown into a grinder)
That could equally apply to the Second World War. Hell, take Napoleonic warfare. Ranks of men lined up shooting each other at close range whilst artillery tears massive chunks out of the line. And you are drilled and expected to hold that line, even when the fellow to your right just got annihilated by a cannon shot.
War is hell. How many WW2 games have as playing as starving citizens in Leningrad, reduced to cannibalism? How many shove us into trenches in Russia that were stationary for 14 months? How many place us in the role of the poor bastard Hungarian and Romanian detachments on the flanks of 6th army when the Soviets attacked?
If there is a disconnect here, it's exactly the same disconnect as exists for every war game.
>>47175222
I liked the trailer especially the ending when the wings unfurled from the sword tied it together nicely
>>47197718
Also, full disclaimer I fantasize about rigid airships almost every day, and was really into reading about the Red Baron as a kid.
Everyone already knows the Great War was shitty, which ends up leading a lot of people to not study it since it's looked at as "the bummer war". If it takes techno music and rediculously explosive planes to get people past the bummer barrier then so be it.
>>47197780
Every war has it's horrors but WW1 is a landmark in history even among those. It's the birth of modern warfare, all the developments from the Crimean and whatnot being mass produced and expanded on a world stage, and it's the first war that managed to truly hammer home how fucking awful it was to the non-combatants 'safe' at home entire countries away.
Every war game has a disconnect but a war game about WW1 would have the most significant one because of just how important it being utter hell is.
>>47197918
>the entire WW1 was western trench war.
No. It was an important thing but as stupid as reducing the entire WW2 to stalingrad siege.
>>47179882
Grat anon. Now I want a mod for the game with a permanent sprint mode for the Terminators and the Doom music in the background.
>>47198736
Not him but he didn't say that, like, at all.
>>47198736
Maybe as 'stupid' as reducing the entirety of WW2 to the Eastern Front, the 'Western Trench War' was the most important theatre in WW1 not just the 2nd most important battle in that theatre.
>>47192543
Lawrence was in Arabia Mesopotamia and the Levant, all of which are in Asia rather than Africa. Although there were actual African campaigns with Germany giving money and weapons to any band of nogs who wanted to rebel against their rulers in Britain and France and fighting with their own colonial troops in defence of their holdings in South West Africa.
>>47175222
>This is how you do fitting, anachronistic music.
Ishiggy diggity
>>47197465
Well actually I'm right and I'm right. There is no way any explosion (I'm assuming you mean from the gas in the engine because nothing else in it could possibly go) could do that kind of damage. Period. More damage would be done by the solid engine block smacking the tower at around 150 mph.
>>47182582
link it, plz m80
>>47176317
>giving a shit about the single player
This is Battlefiled, it's for the multiplayer that we care
If you want that you describe try Valiant Hearts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP8q5F6dFqQ
>>47182182
>>47197408
now you've got me all sad. It would be perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg0Tmydj29M
>>47197270
For varying definitions of "good," Blops 3's story was at least unusual and interesting relative to most other call of duty games which amount to "America is under attack! Kill these foreigners!" with increasingly pretty and expensive setpiece scripted sequences.
>>47192401
French got a lot of men from their colonies. Good that you haven't said that on /his/
>>47192432
>>47192460
these
>>47175222
Best part of the trailer is the tank.
>>47176245
Any real life war is tragic at best
>>47175458
Wow, you really got that rustled by a fucking song? It's time to go outside and reevaluate your life OP.
>>47175458
I'm sorry you have shit taste in music.
