Are the chaos gods the corrupted version of the eldar gods ?
Khorne is bloodlust, while Khaine is righteous fury. Both symbolize rage and strength.
Nurgle is the god of decay and rot, while Isha is the goddess of healing and life. both symbolize the things that never change; everything will eventually decay and die, but also all things heal and from death comes new life.
No need to explain much about Tzeentch and Cegorach but I do believe they are the same entity with two personalitis that always plot and scheme against himself, one favoring chaos and one against it.
>>47166570
>Are the chaos gods the corrupted version of the eldar gods ?
No, but there are troubling clues hinting that the deities in W40K lore share an underlining, original form or aspect, ie Gork, Khaine and Khorne are actually one and the same, Cegorach and the C'tan Deceiver are one and the same etc...
It conflicts with the canon and fucks up the lore but whatever
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Khorne is both bloodlust (hatred, rage, anger) and warrior honor, ya git. But mortals in galaxy feel more anger than "I WILL HOLD THE LINE NO MATTER WHAT", so Khorne is 95% bloodlust and 5% courage'n'honor.
And this is not Nurgle, it's a GUO. Grandpapa also is decay, despair, sadness, >tfw, AND happiness, stability, friendship. That's why nurglings are happy plague bags and not desperate emos.
Sure, panzee godz are somewhat similar to big 4 gods... because they feel the same emotional spectre.
Why these emotions got separate and didn't feed the 3 tho... Maybe Old Ones' warp trickery?
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>Nurgle is the god of decay and rot
Wrong. Nurgle is hopelessness and stagnation. Nurgle has adopted the facade of rot and decay to make people despair and give up hope while stubbornly clinging to life without trying to make that life better.Also Nurgle doesn't love you any more than your abusive adoptive parents do.
According to Gav Thorpe, Khaine is a mix of Khorne and Slaanesh
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Well some things that Gav Thorpe says I don't like. Like the Dark Angels of the present causing the Fallen to get scattered.
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>ie Gork, Khaine and Khorne are actually one and the same
Pretty sure Gork and Mork have been fairly clearly established as separate from Chaos, ever since Waaargh the Orks!, which simply mentioned that Orks feed Khorne as well as their own gods, and even had actual descriptions of Gork and Mork awakening and ignoring the Chaos Powers as they prepared to send/lead their children on the Waaa-Ork. And in the latest codex, the Ork gods are constantly fighting daemons as the warp is being shaken up by all the Chaotic goings-on with the 13th Black Crusade and such.
>Cegorach and the C'tan Deceiver are one and the same etc...
The way it was presented, this one was actually open to several different interpretations, much like a lot of the old War in Heaven stuff.
>>47166683
Well, all Great Unclean Ones are Nurgle.
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The Gavinthrope took it from 1st edition lore: when Khaine fought Slaanesh he was quickly defeated, but then Khorne and Slaanesh fought each other to a standstill in an attempt to claim him, as Khaine was a part of both of them. At the end, Khaine fell out of the warp and split into the Avatars to escape his 'parents'.
In the first Eldar codex in 2nd edition, there was no mention of Khorne and Slaanesh's custody battle. Instead, according to myth, Khaine was simply too powerful for Slaanesh to destroy completely, and had to be fragmented and driven out of the warp instead. Although another part of the codex made it sound like Khaine had left the warp and split himself on purpose (as he had in the older version) after fighting Slaanesh to a standstill (as Khorne had in the older version). That section also mentioned that supposedly, while Khaine and Slaanesh fought, Cegorach hid behind Khaine so Slaanesh wouldn't notice him then went to hide in the webway when it was over.
>>47166570
>Nurgle is the god of decay and rot, while Isha is the goddess of healing and life. both symbolize the things that never change; everything will eventually decay and die, but also all things heal and from death comes new life.
I always read the story about Nurgle keeping Isha captive as being about he basically swallowed her whole and took over her portfolio.
Anyway it's been a long-running theory in both Warhammers that the Chaos gods are sort of the ultimate version of the regular human and elf gods, who are one shiny facet of the teeming mass of the ruinous powers. Sort of a tip of the iceberg sort of thing. They've been moving away from that with recent fluff though.
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You've made the mistake of considering Chaos as entities in themselves that exist independently of each other and everything else.
Khaine and Khorne are similar because both Eldar and Humans possess rage, bloodlust, battle-honour and hatred. The majority collective of this emotional discharge from the soul-bearing Eldar was once referred to as Khaine. Today, the majority collective of this emotion is known as Khorne. All Warp Gods are are collectives of linked concepts and emotion, unless you're dealing with the Hive Mind. Change does not feed Tzeentch, but the ambition and intrigue that drives change, spouted by the races bearing souls. The same is true with Khorne, being fed not by war itself (a battle between Necrons and Tyranids would give him nothing), but by anger, rage and bloodlust most commonly associated by war.
