Welcome everyone, new and old players alike! This is Tundra civ, a civ thread series in a fictional, non-fantasy setting where you play as the rulers of the White Republic, a nation in a world similar to our own.
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Previously on Tundra civ:
>>47098817
It is the year 1158 After the Exile. The White Republic is in a golden age as technology has advanced, the economy has been growing and people are living better than ever before. Biplanes cross the skies as automobiles are found in every major city. Our navy and army have been modernising to be able to meet the demands of a modern kind of warfare.
The world has largely been at peace for over 30 years now, but the future is uncertain. The God-Emperor of the Kaichou has gone missing, socialists are causing trouble in the Sunset Alliance's colonies and the New Pajit Union has been growing rapidly.
>Population:126 000 000 (80% white, 15 % chink,1%hibibi, 2% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 21 000 000 Eyerdar 10 500 000 Veita 10 500 000 Ocras
>Economy:9//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 9/10
>Political Stability: 9/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
The Prince of Kayans united the Prizzid under his rule and then married the Princess of Al-Abad, creating a dual Prizzid-Krushid Monarchy. The two states have been loyal vassals of ours so far.
With a rising demand for oil, the government chipped in and expanded our own drilling operations in the Junutu Isles and the Hibibi desert.
>>47133251
I. I think we should be getting an iron grip on certain industries, like oil and energy in general. Maybe we should begin investing in nuclear and geothermal energy, we got a few volcanos after all.
>>47133251
>K.Diplomacy and war
try to politically help the KE by providing help researching the Emperor, also we must denounce the NPU for this treacherous behavior, they must be behind this, after all the spire monger have retreated in their territory, more trade sanctions inbound.
also this is my only post of the day since I have something to do this evening, have fun you all and don't go losing KE as an ally while I'm absent guys.
Our civil tech is roughly around 1919, our military tech around 1914
Flying machines you say? Why, such objects could have a myriad of uses if we were to procure our own: more accurate maps, and easier travel, bypassing of annoying trails that twist and turn in every way. Why, one fellow even has the idea of somehow using them as airborne torpedos to strike the enemy from above; though I question his sanity.
Which nation are these objects originating from? I suggest we inquire and see if any are possible through trade?
>>47133373
changed to F
>>47133469
Four independent nations exist today - The White Republic(us,names in black), the Greater Kaichou Empire, the Sunset Alliance(the nation of the chinks) and the New Pajit Union. The first three together form the Occidental Axis. We, the WR, also have a few vassal states in our home continent, Aymsland.
We are advancing through the Second Industrial Revolution. The Kaichou were the first to create reliable airships, but it was engineers from our nation that built the first aeroplane. Since then all nations have been designing such aircraft, our military has recently taken an interest in this technology, as it would allow for aerial photography. Some even propose direct combat use, though that has not yet been tested out.
>>47133251
>F
we need us some big airships.
We've built airships of our own in recent years. Eyerdar Military Headquarters have also been experimenting with using these dirigibles for scouting and even combat use - the theory of aerial bombardment is still untested in real combat, but one thing is sure - the sight of a massive, armed airship coming would strike fear into the hearts of many soldiers.
Waiting for more players to gather, so smaller advances for now.
>Population:127 000 000 (80% white, 15 % chink,1%hibibi, 2% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 21 200 000 Eyerdar 10 600 000 Veita 10 600 000 Ocras
>Economy:8//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 9/10
>Political Stability: 9/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47133765
E. Let's improve public transit and roads/rails. We tied iur rail system to the SA, let's improve it further. Also, how affordable are cars? Maybe make a motorbike that's cheaper.
>>47133765
>F.Improve Military
I think we should invent in the military this round, because we're going to war soon.
>>47133765
F improve our airships to be able to carry planes within them.
>>47133880
Motor vehicles of all kinds are produced in our country - cars, motorcycles, buses, you name it. Automobiles aren't really cheap, in the countryside they are a fairly rare sight, the cities have more.
Rail transport is pretty well developed, some cities have also experimented with underground metropolitan railways(Metros) in recent decades. The largest such is in Centerhold, the terrain permits even further development, but it is still in early stages and not so wide-spread.
>>47133922
>>47133927
>>47133986
How would you like to improve our military?
A.Aeronautics experimentation
B.Land vehicles experimentation(We have some armored cars)
C.Develop better infantry and small arms
D.Develop better artillery, heavy armament and chemical warfare capablities
E.Military command, logistics and strategy
F.Other
Pick one or two
>>47134040
A. Work our way to airship carriers.
>>47134040
A and B
>>47134040
>A.Aeronautics experimentation
>B.Land vehicles experimentation(We have some armored cars)
>>47134040
>C.Develop better infantry and small arms
>D.Develop better artillery, heavy armament and chemical warfare capablities
Rolled 39 (1d100)
We organised wargames between Eyerdar and Aymsland Military HQs.
The Aymsland forces unveiled several new land vehicles - an improved armored car, artillery tractors and several variants of landships with various weaponry and armor.
The Eyerdar forces on the other hand displayed their use of a military airforce! Aside from airships, they also demonstrated fighter-planes and aerial bombardment.
These wargames were successful and useful for the development of the latest military technology.
Roll for event.
>>47134450
That the worst event roll in this thread and the last one.
Bad news.
It's been over eight months now with no sign of the God-Emperor. Rumors have started circulating among the commonfolk in the Empire
The Sunset Alliance is having a political crisis. At the latest election the Dragon's Will, the leading conservative party, was caught commiting voter fraud. Both liberals and socialists are angry and communist sentiments have spread not only through the colonies, but also to the homeland.
>Population:127 500 000 (80% white, 15 % chink,1%hibibi, 2% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 21 300 000 Eyerdar 10 600 000 Veita 10 600 000 Ocras
>Economy:8//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 9/10
>Political Stability: 9/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47134596
F, improve military. The airships must BE STRONGER AND FASTER.
>>47134596
>K.Diplomacy and war
Perhaps the Sunset Alliance would like some "assistance" with creating order and peace within their country.
>>47134596
>>K.Diplomacy and war
Help our allies if they, become socialist then they more likly join NPU in a war aganist us.
Form the Anti-Commie League
>>47134596
K we must stop the spread of communism. We must help our allies in their time of need
>>47134596
K we will be there for our allies
Gentlemen,
our nation is stable and currently under no threat from political organisations internally, according to the latest Njordgale reports.
Two international issues are at hand - the God-Emperor of the KE is missing and the people there are starting to realise that; The SA government is unstable and there is a lot of civil unrest both at home and in the colonies, currently it's protests, increased crime rate and the occasional strike.
Propose plans of action for one or both of these.
>>47134855
Send soldiers and tanks and airships to help keep the peace and try to calm the civil unrest.
Send our best investigators to help track down the God-Emperor.
>>47134855
Send an envoy to the Kaichou empire.
>>47134855
how does KE succession work? I'll say though that we should send out an envoy and secretly try to find if this is because of treason
>>47134855
In the pic, Are those WOMEN? In the council chambers? What mad buffoonery is this! Someone escort them out before they begin prattling on about suffrage or immigration.
>>47134855
Send manpower to SA to calm down the civil unrest
Investigators to track down the God-Emperor
Also for both of the countries send envoys to futher our understanding of the problems, and how we can work together to slove this.
>>47134909
At the latest election the Dragon's Will, the leading conservative party, was caught commiting voter fraud.
>>47134855
Plan 1: Offer both our allies any assistance they might require, then give them whatever they ask for.
Or:
Plan 2: Under the guise of "International Security" we place the SA under our benevolent "temporary administration" for their own benefit. Can't risk those commies taking over.
>>47134921
It was take your daughter to workday okay.
>>47134929
I agree with Inky. Also I say its about time we start using sleeper agents to disrupt those communists guys who live abroad, see how they like it for a change. You know assassinations and splitting the party, that kind of thing.
>>47134948
why not both? but scale back plan 2 a bit so it's not a total takeover but more forceful advising
Rolled 59, 74 = 133 (2d100)
>>47134959
Top kek
I didn't even look at the picture thoroughly, it's A FUCKING LEAF city council from 1911.
We're making military preparations for an eventual intervention. For now, we're sending envoys to the SA and the KE(roll 1 and 2)
>>47134909
The God-Emperor is a mysterious figure. Only the members of the Imperial Court(Who he personally chooses) have ever seen him in person. The Court have great power in the governance of the Empire, they serve the Emperor's will.
>>47134985
>>47134974
>>47134959
>>47134948
>>47134936
>>47134921
>>47134909
>>47134891
>>47134888
As we coming up with a plan, what do you guys think of forming a Anti-Commie League?
I think of it as a pact with the three counties working together to get rid of socialist.
>>47135018
So I'm guessing we can't just replace him with someone who greatly resembles the Emperor, no?
>>47135040
i think thats a great idea, im in.
>>47134985
How about plan 1 as plan A?
If that fails and and the SA fall into chaos we will consider using plan B (formerly known as plan 2) a last resort.
>>47135040
>Anti-Commie League
I'm with you
>get rid of socialist
But we're kinda socialist ourselves. Department of Culture teaching people about the glories of collectivism and all that.
>>47135066
lel, have a njordgale put on kaichou face and pose as the god emperor?
>>47135078
Well by socialist I mean the bad parts about them, I just clump them together.
>>47135040
that's a good idea, but just saying, socialism isnt the same as communism
>>47135123
Yeah, like Councilor told me, but you know what I meant. That was a misthought on my part.
so
-we're forming an anti communist league
-sending an envoy to KE to find out exactly what's happening along with investigators
-sending an envoy to SA along with a small military force to help keep the peace. If possible, set up temporary, or permanent, "advisors"
>>47135192
Sounds good.
> temporary, or permanent, "advisors"
Let's make them temporary for the time being. If the SA devolves into complete anarchy we will take more drastic masures.
>>47135192
>e
+1
>>47135067
We don't KNOW what the Emperor looks like, anon. According to the Kaichou he is a God, the same divine being has been leading their people for over a thousand years, that's probably religious hocus-pocus, but we don't really know the truth. The Court knows what he looks like.
Envoys have arrived in Xikou, capital of the Sunset Alliance.
The Dragon's Will are the party in power. Their party Chairman has become national Chairman in the latest election.
The Dragon's Will are generally percieved as the party of the elites, they've won most elections in the past century. There's also the nationalistic Tiger's Claw, the bourgeois Golden Party and the socialist Worker's Party.
The latter three are now trying to use this political crisis to gain power and popular support. It may come to the resignation of the current government and new elections. The Worker's Party have been gaining a lot of support recently, they might be able to win an election, having a plurality of the popular support already.
What shall we do?
A.Support the Dragon's Will - the conservatives have always maintained good relations with our nation and have been a reliable ally, it may take some internal changes and the Chairman's resignation to make them a viable choice to the electorate though
B.Support the Tiger's Claw - the nationalists have the sympathy of much of the military and many in the homeland, less so in the colonies. They've never won a general election, but have some representatives in the SA's parliament. They believe in putting the nation's interests first, but are open to working with their allies, as long as their sovereignty remains
C.Support the Golden Party - the party of business and free thought, it has won some elections in the past, has the support of the middle class in both colonies and homeland. In the past they've also had corruption scandals, they may be succeptible to "manipulation", the question is will we be the ones to do it?
D.Other
>>47135390
>B.Support the Tiger's Claw - the nationalists have the sympathy of much of the military and many in the homeland, less so in the colonies. They've never won a general election, but have some representatives in the SA's parliament. They believe in putting the nation's interests first, but are open to working with their allies, as long as their sovereignty remains
I'd have written a bit more, but 2000 characters limit.
Under Other you can consider ANYTHING, be creative if you don't like any of these three options alone.
>>47135390
B would be best for the SA probably, but A would be good for us but could lead to increasing dissent amongst the people.
B, having a strong and independant ally could be useful, as long as we are significantly stronger.
>>47135476
This is about the Sunset Alliance.
The Kaichou Empire after this. They're the ones with an Emperor.
>>47135390
>B.Support the Tiger's Claw -
I think B is the good middle ground, while if we picked A it'll cause more dissent in the people.
C looks like the nose got into it.
>>47135390
A+B support the dragon's will but actually support the tiger's claw. We don't want them believing we betrayed their party
>>47135487
My bad.
Then:
>C.Support the Golden Party
We can manipulate those fools easypeasy. For example having them invite our military and advisors into their country.
>>47135538
While C you can manipulate them easy, their is still the thing about the nose.
>they may be succeptible to "manipulation", the question is will we be the ones to do it?
>>47135576
True that.
But when our "advisors" are in place we can gradually neuter the power of their native political institutions in favour of our "advisory commitees". Thus possible influence by the nose is rendered harmless.
>>47135635
nah, that's bound to backfire eventually. I'd rather have a strong, independent ally that's beholden to us. "Advisors" would help in that regard
We'll start negotiating with the Tiger's Claw faction.
Now on to Kotoima, capital of the Greater Kaichou Empire.
Our special envoys are speaking with the Imperial Court.
They handle the day-to-day management of the Empire at a high level, directing the lower levels of government.
"We haven't seen the God-Emperor in over seven months now. Normally, we give him reports and recieve His orders every few days."
"It's happened before, for one or two days, a week, a month, but never this long. The Emperor has always come back from...wherever he goes." "He only leaves when he has something of great importance to do...usually doesn't say what it is either"
"This time he left us a message, though - I have business with Them"
The people will grow restless if they find out the Emperor's been missing, even more so that the government's been covering it up.
What shall we do in this regard, if anything?
>>47135734
send in njordgales to track him down.
>>47135734
>"This time he left us a message, though - I have business with Them"
god dam it its fucking jews
>>47135734
ask them if they know of any other places with the spires
>>47135734
>What shall we do in this regard, if anything?
Order all our operatives and intelligence to be on the lookout. We can't let our beloved allies be without their leader.
>>47135780
"They" have been rather innactive in recent history. Let's pray they'll remain that way.
>>47135732
>that's bound to backfire eventually
Indeed. Hopefully in a hilarious way.
>>47135734
How about we send the njordgales to track them down.
Help them keep the people from becoming restless.
Also work with them to keep their country in order.
I think the nose got to him, but we can't risk mass panic right now. We have to keep up the show.
Guy's I have an ides, it's only a basic one but what if we set up a political trap to lure the shadowy organisation into and then capture or execute a great deal of them? It would of course only be known by a few of our most loyal ministers and would be of great risk, but I for one am tired of merrily having to react to them and never striking first at them.
>>47135863
what would the trap be? that we "found" the emperor?
We'll be using our njordgales to help find leads on the Emperor.
"It's definately got something to do with the Organisation."
>Population:128 000 000 (80% white, 15 % chink,1%hibibi, 2% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 21 400 000 Eyerdar 10 700 000 Veita 10 700 000 Ocras
>Economy:8//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 9/10
>Political Stability: 9/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47135734
Have an elite spy, the bst spy be sent to the court. Have him say he's the Emperor that has taken form in a new body (or give him a cool mask) and have him run the show til we find the real one?
>>47135863
How would you go about setting this trap?
>>47135949
>G.Research science
>>47135949
G.Research science
>>47135903
Not sure yet, it's just a concept right now that I was putting out there. Hopefully I and a few other anons can hammer out the details, as for using the emperor were not secure enough in knowing what happened to him to try that.
>>47135949
>>47135949
G. lets do more research in physics and chemistry.
>>47135949
>G.Research science
How about we research ways that the car can be made cheaply so everyone in our country can have one.
>>47136008
i dont think that will be as useful as working towards nuclear power and stuff, there are better things to use our votes for i think.
Choose two scientific areas
A.Industrial technology
B.Transportation
C.Electrical engineering
D.Chemistry
E.Physics
F.Military
G.Navy
H.Other
>>47135982
Ok so here goes, we set up some kind of new commite with extreme power, within our own government of course, and as those under the noses influence flock to it we spring our trap and grab the. The commite will be blatantly against everything our civ stands for so no true democracy loving northerner will join it and many of the people will be outraged. However the ones under the noses influence will flock to this opportunity to screw over our nation (any ministers caught in the crossfire would have to resign as they did try to seize power illegally). A very risky idea of course but if it works it will set the nose back years and make our own government secure for decades.
>>47136059
>B.Transportation
>C.Electrical engineering
>>47136059
C and E.
>>47136059
B, E
Oh shit what'd I miss?
C and A
>>47136059
>C.Electrical engineering
>A.Industrial technology
>>47136107
>Oh shit what'd I miss?
Oh, the usual.
>>47136075
Too risky in too many ways.
I would rather recommend continued conventional intelligence as our safeguard against infiltrators and spies.
>>47136059
F and B
>>47136184
What does the picture mean?
C & B
Cars, telephones, radios have become more affordable and better. They've gotten more widespread, across all continents. Potential for rail transport development has increased as well.
>Population:128 500 000 (80% white, 15 % chink,1%hibibi, 2% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 21 500 000 Eyerdar 10 800 000 Veita 10 800 000 Ocras
>Economy:8//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability: 9/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47136348
H. improve the storm-born and make landing craft for beach invasions.
>>47136348
H. Also create regular coastal patrols via a Coast Guard.
>>47136348
>>H.Improve Navy
Let's improve our navy maybe make aircraft carriers.
So our planes can bomb the NPU islands by sea.
>>47136410
we don't have advanced enough planes for bombing
>>47136280
Answer 1: Our immediate future predicament.
Answer 2: A redraw of this image.
>>47136348
>E.Construction
More rail transport would certainly be desirable.
>>47136429
>>47136348
do we have a national railway?
Current naval power:
>Navy:2 dreadnoughts,11 battleships,27 cruisers,52 destroyers,10 submarines;steam transports,basic seaplanes ,quality sailors, Stormborn, the Admiralty
We recently organised naval wargames. What shall we focus on now?
A.Improve our high-seas fleet, more and better battleships
B.A bit of everything
C.Focus on lighter vessels and submarines
D.Other
>>47136464
B, having a well rounded and versatile navy would be great, improve all fronts a little bit.
>>47136429
I like the original picture better. Also thanks for answering
>>47136464
>C.Focus on lighter vessels and submarines
>>47136464
C. Lighter vessels for coast guard! We don't want pirates roaming our shores (yes they still exist.)
>>47136452
The government has a monopoly on it, through the National Railroad Company that connects all our cities on all continents.
In-city transport is left to the cities themself. We could support the improvement of public transportation, of course.
>>47136464
>C.Focus on lighter vessels and submarines
Submarines will be great, against the supplies lines of our enemies.
>>47136464
A.Improve our high-seas fleet, more and better battleships
C. Lighter vessels for coast guard! We don't want to deal with pirates and we can train professional rescue squads. My post got deleted.
>>47136544
For me you post wasn't deleted. But that something that happens to me too.
That I post something it gets deleted but soon after it's back.
>>47136578
Strange...
>>47136464
C I agree, we should set up a coastguard and more submarines are always good
We've greatly improved our submarine technology. The latest generation of U-Boat has a longer range, superior firepower and more speed. We've also developed hunter-killer and Anti-Submarine Warfare tactics to counter any opposing submarines as well.
We've developed our lighter vessels, naval mines, coast guard and convoy escorts.
>Population:129 000 000 (80% white, 15 % chink,1%hibibi, 2% darkskin,2% pacharnati)
>Colonials: 21 600 000 Eyerdar 10 800 000 Veita 10 800 000 Ocras
>Economy:8//10
>Food stockpiles:8/10
>Food production: 8/10
>Political Stability: 8/10
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Construction
>F.Improve Military
>G.Research science
>H.Improve Navy
>I.Improve economy
>J.Regional development
>K.Diplomacy and war
>L.Government and laws
>>47136671
Isn't it time for a event roll?
Also let's go with F
We need to improve our military.
>>47136671
E. lets improve our rail system.
>>47136671
>B.Food production & Population growth
We will need as many bodies as possible to throw at the enemy in the inevitable future Great War.
K. What's going down with the Njordgales?
>>47136671
F
>>47136722
I don't think we need bodies, we just need to blitzkrieg them
>>47136671
F what is everyone current population?
>>47136810
Last thread, tech how far behind and population
>Overall the NPU and SA are 10 years behind us, the KE are 5.
We've got 126 mil now. The Kaichou have 67 million, the SA has 46, the NPU has 48.
>>47136773
>I don't think we need bodies, we just need to blitzkrieg them
And if we fail at that?
Sheer manpower is always valuable, regardless of techlevel or tactics.
Also, with our current techlevel a blitz would surely result in another Schlieffen Plan anyways.
>>47136773
>>47136879
nah, a blitz could totally work. >>47136853 they're tech is 10 years behind us. Just gotta keep upgrading military tech.
>>47136810
Kaichou - 68 million, NPU - 50 million, SA - 47 million
Event(s) after this.
Choose two military areas to focus on
A.Infantry and small arms
B.Artillery, heavy armament and chemical warfare
C.Airforce
D.Land vehicles
E.Special forces
F.Military command, strategy, logistics
H.Modernise the cavalry - they can still be useful as a highly mobile infantry force that can traverse rough terrain at speed
I.Phase out the cavalry force in favor of other forces
>>47136671
>>B.Food production & Population growth
>>47136894
A. For the average soldier
I. Phase them out, it's time to retire them. Honorably of course.
>>47136894
E and F. improve and increase the elemental orders, and improve logistics to cope with increased manpower.
>>47136894
>A.Infantry and small arms
>I.Phase out the cavalry force in favor of other forces
>>47136894
A.Infantry and small arms
F.Military command, strategy, logistics
Average soldiers win the wars
We need better miliary command, to fight in a larger scale. ( We didn't improve this in a long time.)
>>47136892
>a blitz could totally work
The keyword here is "could", that is not the term we should stake our entire future strategy upon.
>they're tech is 10 years behind us
So they have a maxim instead of a lewis then. Dosen't really change much.
>>47136894
>H.Modernise the cavalry - they can still be useful as a highly mobile infantry force that can traverse rough terrain at speed
>B. Artillery
>>47136894
Since we have more men and tech
A and F
For the cavalry they will phase out by themselves.
>>47136961
Why modernise the cavarly Councilor?
The cavalry force will gradually adapt over time on its own.
We've trained more infantry and officers and improved small arms equipment. Better bolt-action rifles, pistols, machine guns, grenades.
Modern technology makes the logical role for infantry to be primarily on the defensive and as a large force that can hold ground. New focus is on establishment of forward operations, fortifications, stable supply lines and lines of communication. Through the use of radio and telephone all that has become easier by far.
Event time
Rolled 20 (1d100)
>>47137042
fugg :DD
SA for now
>>47136961
Since a blitz will be too risky we don't do that. So we go to the safer route of having the trenches.
The horses will get mow down if you use them to charge the trenches,.
The artillery makes sense as it fires shells on the enemies.
What your plan Councilor? Since I know you're a great thinker.
>>47137053
>>47137053
>20
well, shit.
>>47137053
>>47136981
Several reasons.
WW1 saw successful use of horses, the most famous being in the Arab uprising featuring a certain Lawrence.
Also, following the Great War the absolute madman von Ungern-Sternberg fought the commies for years and conquered Mongolia with a pure cavalry force.
In WW2 horses also saw successful use, most of the cavalry-engagements in Poland was in favour of the riders.
Horses are still very important at our current techlevel and deserve some love.
>>47137053
>20
Sheeeeit.
>>47137053
>20
Well I think it's time to use the military to clam things down.
>>47137109
You make vaild points, if we're going to have to use military force in SA. Horses will be useful to settle people down.
>>47137054
>Since a blitz will be too risky we don't do that.
A blitz is a good plan A, I just believe we should be able to fall back on a meatgrinder-style plan B and still expect to come out on top.
>What your plan Councilor?
Horses are great for mobility at our current techlevel and should not be disregarded. But I do accept that the future belong to machines and infantry.
A political free-for-all ensued in the Sunset Alliance elections.
Everyone jumped on the Dragons for their corruption, the conservatives lost almost all their support. The Tigers were attacked for being double-faced traitors who pretend to stand for the nation's sovereignty while dealing with foreigners for their own gains. Those two parties were eliminated and it fell down to the Golden versus the Workers. The Tigers, not wanting to see the socialists gain more power, aimed to help the Golden win the election by intimidating voters, while the bourgois party was caught bribing delegates and officials.
In the end the party of the middle class, the Golden, won over the Workers by a tiny margin and even that was after several incidents of recounting votes, displaced ballots and such.
Chaos has erupted through the Sunset Alliance. Socialists, anarchists, communists and even some disgruntled liberals have turned the riots into an open rebellion. The new government ordered that riots in Xikou be surpressed with force, but that only fueled the fires and now a revolution has erupted across both colonies and homelands, a civil war! Colonial military regiments have mostly signed with the rebels, parts of the navy has also defected.
We're also recieving news from the Kaichou...
Rolled 20 (1d100)
>>47137317
>>47137317
godammit, i knew this would happen.
>>47137338
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>47137338
>>47137338
Shit two 20 in a row.
>>47137357
>>47137341
Alright guys we have to make sure the NPU don't attack our allies at this point. Since they going to take this time to attack, since everyone is going into civil war.
>>47137317
Seems that the time for a "peaceful & humane intervention" is here.
>>47137338
>20
YES! YES!
Everything is on fire!
>>47137338
well, time to muster the military and cordon off the SA so that the revolution doesnt spread. and prepare to step in on behalf of the KE
>>47137384
you think we can use this opportunity to have a permanent advisory board in both the SA and KE? this way we can forever stonewall the nose.
>>47137446
Risky but an excellent thought now that shit is unwinding.
>>47137455
at least some kind of military protectorate, we cant let this chance slip by.
>>47137480
We have to let this play out for now though...
>>47137446
We might have to resort to such means.
But ideally we will fix our allies and then pull out (provided we have faith in our allies ability to keep their shit together after we leave).
>>47137380
>we have to make sure the NPU don't attack our allies at this point.
Good point.
A naval blocade and general mobilization should hopefully intimidate them into obedience.
>>47137529
Okay guys here my plan for the SA
1. Full military mobilization
2. Use the military and send them in SA mainland and stop the civil war as fast as possible in the mainland
3. Use the Navy destory the defected navy and blockage/bomb the SA colonies into giving up
4. After taking care of the civil war in the mainland we move to the colonies where we take out the rebels in the colonies as fast as possible.
This plan can and will be change due to what happens to KE
News of the Emperor's dissapearance broke out in public some weeks ago. There's been civil unrest in the Kaichou homeland, but in Eyerdar it's even worse.
General Naebigi, one of the most respected and accomplished Kaichou military leaders and former member of the Imperial Court, has denounced the Imperial Government's actions, claiming they have usurped power from the God-Emperor and that they must have done something wrong if they are hiding his dissapearance. Behind him have gathered leaders of the Kaichou liberals and socialists, many troops and a lot of colonial support.
The General has sent us a message:
"The Organisation has usurped power within the Court. With your support we can take them down fast and with little bloodshed. I have the support of most of the troops, I'd need some help getting past the Navy though. The Emperor will appreciate your help and there's ways you can be reimbursed for this."
What shall we do on the two issues?
Chink revolts in Aymsland and a revolution in Eyerdar and a rebellious Kaichou general in Eyerdar too.
The NPU has not taken any stance yet.
>>47137577
have our njordgales found the emperor yet? if they have bring him out(assuming he hasnt been turned by the nose), if not tell the KE general to get rid of the socialists and we'll help him.
>>47137577
We're gonna have to spread thin.
>>47137577
This General Naebigi sounds like a swell fellow, I say we assist him.
>>47137634
They haven't. No news on that.
>>47137645
Quick question, are there colleges in these provinces? We might be fucked if we keep backing these nationalists...(see Chiang Kai-Shek)
>>47137577
Here is my plan for the SA
1. Full military mobilization
2. Use the military and send them in SA mainland and stop the civil war as fast as possible in the mainland
3. Use the Navy destory the defected navy and blockage/bomb the SA colonies into giving up
4. After taking care of the civil war in the mainland we move to the colonies where we take out the rebels in the colonies as fast as possible.
Here is my plan for the KE
1. We'll side with the emperor, we can't let the nose into the KE government
2. Use our navy to blockage the colonies as well. They have no navy so we can blockage the troops.
3. Help the Imperial Court and work with them, in stopping the rebels we have the manpower and the tech
NPU Stuff
1. Send a envoy to the NPU, that if they attack us or our allies in anypoint, we will go with war with them. Also if they help the rebels at all.
>>47137577
Take every ship, airship and naval, with every plane we have, and break their navy.
>>47137648
ok then
KE: i vote we help the general retake the country, as long as he eleminates the socialists and fringe groups of the like, give him a bit of our navy to break through and assist with stormborn for an invasion.
SA: settle the revolution on our doorstep in the capital, then move to the colonies.
>>47137691
Don't help the general his being control by the nose
>Behind him have gathered leaders of the Kaichou liberals and socialists
>>47137682
Agreed. Smart thinking.
>>47137681
>Quick question, are there colleges in these provinces
I have no idea whatsoever
>>47137717
I saw that as well.
All right, voting time
1.The Sunset Alliance
A.Full support for the government and those who are loyal to it
B.Support the Tigers(who may or may not back the government) to get to power
C.Don't get involved right now
D.Other
2.The Kaichou Empire - both sides are saying the other is a traitor. The Emperor hasn't been found, both sides claim to speak on his behalf.
A.Support the Government
B.Support the General
C.Don't get involved right now
D.Other
>>47137645
>>47137751
Councilor don't you see that the general is in bed with the nose. They give him the greed of power, and supporting him. Most of the leaders he is with is the liberals and socialists.
>>47137793
>>47137717
For all we know the Imperial Court might very well also be compromised.
I say we go full in, too deep to pull out. We use the general and then seize control ourselves. It's dirty but it's acceptable given the situation.
1.B
2.A
>>47137842
I say we make an ultimatum. Tell both sides and the public what is happening.
>>47137792
B, A
>>47137792
>A.Support the Government
>A.Support the Government
Alright the government right now in SA is control by Golden party.
So let's help them right now with the plan I gave.
With the Tigers, tell them we're going to help them after we get this power stuggle in order.
The KE
we must stay loyal to our ally the emperor he was with us for many years. We must repaid the favor.
>>47137842
Wanting to backstab our most loyal ally
>>47137904
I just said B because I like to take a risk sometimes.
>>47137792
>D.Other
Assume control ourselves. Then we figure out who we can work with to get them back on track.
B.Support the General
We "lend" the General our support, then we remove him and assume control ourselves (until the Emperor is located).
>>47137874
Too late for words, only blood now.
>>47137905
changed to A and c
>>47137792
D tell the public about what is happening
>>47137792
B and A
>>47137792
>>47137922
I agree
D, take control of SA ourselves and figure out who is sane and willing to work.
B. support the general ONLY IF HE REMOVED THE SOCIALISTS AND OTHER FRINGE GROUPS.
>>47137792
1.B
2.A
>>47137904
>backstab
When the Emperor is located he will be restored to power, we're merely safeguarding his nation as they cannot be trusted to manage their own affairs without him.
>>47137956
I like this
>>47137792
B
A
People wanting to help the nose general, he could just lie about removing socialists
>>47137792
1. B
2. A
>>47137792
>A
>C
>>47137792
B
A
If we take control ourselves we can't handle that much population change in a short time
>>47137792
B
A
Help our allies
Rolled 99 (1d100)
1-B 2 -A
We're supporting the Tigers in the SA and Kotoima's government in the KE
>>47138094
Yeah!
>>47138094
Thank god...
>>47138094
not quite what i thought would be best, but shit, that 99 makes it all worth it.
>>47138094
>99
>>47138094
The White Republic did the impossible.
>99
>>47138343
>that map
>>47138343
I think that's the wrong map. That was with the Pajit war.
>>47138384
ah, fuck, wrong map. that one's jpg, this is png
>>47138343
Trade and naval blockades. Use our special forces for reconnaissance and reveal enemy information.
>>47138343
>What strategies should we take now?
Utilize all available forces to bash the enemy into submission quickly and brutally.
We want this conflict over as fast as possible.
>>47138427
>>47138408
combo of these, elemental orders gather intel and feed them to the machines of war.
also, i would like to add that we use experimental tech and strategies to eveolve our military, take every chance we can to keep ahead of the game.
>>47138407
We blockage the ports with our navy.
Use special forces for reconnaissance (plane time) since we can't fight a enemy without knowing where they are. I don't want us to be attacked in the behind.
Our arimies start setting up defenses lines while we get reconnaissance.
>>47138450
id like to add that we should keep the army at new lakeside westerly and in a defensive position so keep the NPU was getting any ideas.
>>47138427
The thing about this that we don't know where their armies are at. We could go charge headfirst into enemey lines, and our supplies train is destroyed behind us.
We can do the attacking once we figure out where the armies are at.
The navy will do it's part, but what of our armed forces?
A.Set up supply lines, fortifications, gather more forces and send in special forces and reconnaisance first
B.Begin the offensive, let's end this quickly
>>47138494
this is true, we should keep a fleet in harbor near the former prizzid citystates and prepare to assault the spice islands just in case. also have the northwest colony dig in and fortify positions alomg the NPU border, and amass tropps there to invade as necesary.
>>47138407
Are all the stars our armies or are they battlefields?
>>47138533
A, gotta know where they are if we gotta fight them.
>>47138533
>A.Set up supply lines, fortifications, gather more forces and send in special forces and reconnaisance first
Also Buglar did we send NPU that envoy to not mess with our allies or us?
>>47138569
Yes the green stars are us.
>>47138494
With the magnificent technology & ressources at our hands (airships, planes, cars, njordgales and our local allies) gathering intelligence at the go should be possible. If we simply seek to seize control of the cities and such we will force the enemy into shoving his hand before he is ready.
>>47138533
>B.Begin the offensive, let's end this quickly
We must not let them organize, prepare and dig in.
>>47138584
Ahh, gotcha Inky, thanks.
Rolled 71, 48, 37 = 156 (3d100)
A it is. We'll make preparations first.
1.Recon
2.Reinforcements
3.Enemy initiative
>>47138613
Well we did better then the enemy, that saying a lot with our luck.
>>47138613
definitely 3.
>>47138627
sorry misread.
>>47138613
Acceptable rolls
Also:
>>47138450
>also, i would like to add that we use experimental tech and strategies to eveolve our military, take every chance we can to keep ahead of the game.
This is a pretty good idea. We've never tested our new toys in real combat before.
>>47138653
Well with the recon, and the navy I think we tested them out. We still need to test the tanks we have, or armored cars.
Another allied army has landed at Shiandao. Our coalition forces have been reinforced to 950 000 and supplies are prepared for an offensive.
There have been light enemy clashes in the plains, several raids were made on our territory, mostly unsuccessful.
The Kaichou rebels have several smaller forces throughout the jungle lands. The terrain there will work to their advantage.
In the north, the rebels will use the mountains as a natural barrier wherever possible.
It is almost autumn, our turn now.
A.All-out offensive on all fronts, don't give them any room to breathe!
B.More moderate, avoid rough terrain engagements
C.Slower, more gradual advance
D.Other plan
>>47138763
B. trap them in their own defenses and starve them out in winter.
>>47138763
B.More moderate, avoid rough terrain engagements
It's going to be winter soon, so going to the mountains it a death trap.
Also keep blockaging the port and bombing them.
We can go all out in spring
>>47138763
>A.All-out offensive on all fronts, don't give them any room to breathe!
Grind them into dust before they're ready.
It will cost lives in the short term but save lives in the long term.
Rolled 77, 89, 21, 94 = 281 (4d100)
We'll go with the moderate strategy
Rolls:
1.Southern front(sticking to the coast)
2.Northeastern front
3.Northwestern front
4.Rebels fighting each other
>>47138890
godammit northwest! get your shit together!
>>47138890
>94
>4.Rebels fighting each other
Is that good for us or the rebels?
>>47138890
Nice rolls all around
>>47138905
I think the rebelss fighting each other is good for us, since they kill themselves.
>>47138890
>>47138903
wait a minute, ill bet its the NPU moving in.
Rolled 33, 100, 89 = 222 (3d100)
>>47138905
Good for us
The rebels spent as much effort fighting each other as they did fighting us!
Our advance in the northwest was stopped and we even lost some ground, but elsewhere it's been good. We've pushed the foes back in several open-field battles, now they are on the retreat and will attempt to dig in
1.Chink rebels fortifying
2.Kaichou rebels fortifying
3.Rebels fighting each other
>>47138949
holy shit, the kaichou are impenetrable.
>>47138949
100
>2.Kaichou rebels fortifying
shit
>>47138941
If they do we all already have our military out and in the same landmass as them.
>>47138949
Kaichou fortifying >100
Shit
Rebels fighting each other >89
Great
Chink rebels fortifying >33
Great
I think we should focus on the chink next round and not attack the kaichou rebels. Let them come to us, while we blockage their ports, and salt their lands.
>>47138934
Got it. I was afraid the 94 was from their point of view and that they had been united by some glorious mastermind.
>>47138949
>100
The Kaichou have contructed the Siegfried line I see. This will be fun.
>>47138949
>>47138989
>>47139007
you know, once this war is over i think we are going to need to do a very careful and meticulous search for the emperor, and then a very careful vetting process to make sure him and his entire government hasnt been infiltrated by the nose. Assuming we can even find him and he is still alive.
>>47139007
We don't have to attack them. We could just stave them out.
We could send our special forces and destory their food supplies.
>>47138989
>Let them come to us
They don't really need to come to us. If they're left alone they will instead solidify their grasp on the land and stockpile supplies.
>>47139025
>We could just stave them out.
For all we know they control shitloads of arable land and warehouses of canned food. The current map don't give us that much accurate information on the enemy's logistical situation.
>We could send our special forces and destory their food supplies.
That would require intelligence we lack and will struggle to obtain.
Also, with our current technology deploying and retrieving such special forces will be hard.
Unless....
The front is too long to be continually fortified. Would it be possible to send our still existing cavalry into the gaps and go full Sherman on their land?
General Naebigi took personal command over the best troops he has. He marched on Yi Sen Shi, center of the chink rebellion, and took the city with almost no losses. He captured the leaders of the Workers Party and convinced them to submit. Almost all chink rebels have now joined the General's side, only some of the most hardcore ideologues have continued fighting in the mountains, but against us on one side and the general on the other, they have no chance.
The Kaichou sacrificed some of their fringe territories and used scorched earth tactics to slow us down and have now set up perfect defence lines on every front, making the best use of natural barriers and available forces.
It is now early autumn.
Suggest a plan of action and approve the best one. We have 950 000 troops available, the enemy has less than 800 000 at current estimates.
>>47139128
i think we should primarily push from the north, take yuminkoto and move towards the mountains on the east side of the continents, up to the mouths of the rivers in the mountains.
>>47139128
Gather the needed recon, bring in available reinforcements and plenty of ammo for the artillery.
Then we stomp then into the dirt with sheer overwhelming force.
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>>47139128
Okay this is shaping up into a WW1 type of warfare with trenches
To win the war, we need artillery, artillery, artillery! They the one that killed more people then crossing no man land.
We need to set up trenches and rain down artillery since this is a war of Attrition
>>47139228
>>47139182
we should spread out gas masks amongs ALL our troops, i remember bulgar saying something that the kaichou have chemical weapons a few threads back.
>>47139128
Also we need to make beach landing since those are not the places filled with trenches.
We need to send a army by sea into just north of shinkoto to get rid of their trenches from the inside out.
Also send a army by sea a bit south of yuminkoto.
We need to make D-Day happened to lower pressure in the fronts.
Also our navy keep doing it stuff.
>>47139273
our very own operation overlord!
dis gon b good.
dont forget gas masks for mustard gas.
