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First for dark elf pussy.
>>47114218
Second for FOrcs>SpOrcs.
>>47113954
Would anyone care for Vampire Coast/Gnoblar horde lists updated for 9th age? Looking for a project, but I won't bother if there's no demand.
>>47114431
I could also do Clan Moulder, but I'm not as familiar with that list and may end up sabotaging the character somewhat...
>>47114218
>>47114357
Lifefags, get out! REEEEEEEE!!!
Found a mint in box helcannon in my LGS today, going at 36 shiny britbong queenfaces. Should I go for it?
>>47113954
>Vermintide is getting a Drachenfels map and undead waifus edition.
>>47114987
Yea
>>47113954
Where are these undead Waifus Anon?
>>47115287she'll never love you if you have a dick, anon
>>47114699
Disgusting artwork. Like first year 18 years old artschooler
>>47115287
>having a waifu with the personality of a cheesegrinder and ego of Donald Trump
>>47114987
>>47115330
Go to bed, Carnac.
>>47115338
To be fair most Warhammer leaders are either Donald Trump, Orks, or Patton.
Or Columbine Archaon.
>>47115326good
>>47115356
You first, slav
>>47115491She'll still hate you for your narrow pelvis, wide ribcage and long ring finger
>>47115577
Apparently she just loves wizards who are trapped by their lot in life, given she didn't tap her literal pocket pussy that was in love with her, and given we didn't see her in ET means Neferata probably killed or or sent her on a suicide mission to rape Archaon or something.
I love how Neferata has so much fan art.
So let me get this straight-
40K: The Chaos Gods are OP, and the Emprah was a complete freak of nature fueled by the sacrifice of all the most powerful psykers on Earth into a single gestalt and depending on which parts of the fluff you buy he may or may not have stolen power from the Chaos Gods before they considered him a threat.
End of Times Fantasy: All you need to do to rival a Chaos God is eat/become a Wind of Magic and maybe have been the mortal reincarnation of a member of the Elven pantheon, when the similarly named Eldar pantheon god chowed in one go by Slaanesh. And if your name is Teclis you can just eat two Winds without even needing any divine heritage.
Then again I never understood why the Eldar expected Ynnead to do anything other than die horribly to Slaanesh when Slaanesh ate most of their species' souls and they're powering up Ynnead with the remnant that's left and any Farseers that got too old to keep going.
>>47115356
Is Carnac your resident shitposter? I'm here for the proofs which have yet to be provided
>>47115859
>Then again I never understood why the Eldar expected Ynnead to do anything other than die horribly to Slaanesh when Slaanesh ate most of their species' souls and they're powering up Ynnead with the remnant that's left and any Farseers that got too old to keep going.
Type matching?
>>47115922
If you mean they're trying for their own Emprah, my point was more they have a much smaller pool of souls going to fuel the being than what Slaanesh ate in its' birth alone.
Besides, it's been a while since I've read the fluff but from what I recall in individual feats human psykers seem to pack a lot more raw power than Eldar, since Alpha humans can snap Titans in half and subdue planets. Don't remember if it's a matter of raw power or if Eldar Farseers can theoretically do that but are consciously holding back, though.
>>47115859
I think that Black Library decided that the Emperor is just something called a perpetual, which is like the immortals from Highlander on steroids that also survives decapitation. What gave the Emperor all his godlike powers was that he made a deal with the Chaos gods to be their chosen one. Then after getting the powers of a god he told them to go fuck themselves and there was nothing Chaos could do to take those powers back.
Seing as this is BL revisions it's probably even more retarded than it sounds because BL has decided that they are fixing the fluff despite being terrible at it.
>>47115859
The Incarnates were not equal to Chaos Gods. They weren't even equal, as a group, to Archaon (but thanks to shit writing literally nobody is). The 22 Elf gods at their height rivaled, but lost against, the Four so the mortal one for sure wasn't.
In Age, it took three beings who are basically lesser Chaos Gods to kidnap a Chaos God who had gorged himself on so many souls he couldn't move. Then again, somehow eating souls was like him physically inflating like they have ohysical properties rather than him growing stronger by absorbing more of what he is basically made out of. But Age lore is shit, so who cares.
40k lore also sucks, so who cares.
The only being stronger than Chaos is Gotrek.
>>47115901
Carnac is like mould and gets in everywhere if you have a GW thread. He thinks he is smart and hilarious,but he is kinda transparent and if he ever was funny the jokes are not funny anymore.
>>47115997
They can get the powers back, one of them just has to be physically close enough to him. The entire Horus heresy and black crusades are to get him physically in the warp so they can rape their powers back out of him. Killing also works but the golden throne is keeping them from getting his soul as due.
>>47116032
>The only being stronger than Chaos is Gotrek.
because he wields the power of "Books sell"!
>>47115997
>>47116065
WHAT? I haven't heard that one before... That's some serious bullshit! Is it official?!
>>47115997
But then where do Perpetual come fro-no, you're right. This is just going to get even more confusing because the only sensible reasoning for how he pulled it off is the CGs somehow overlooked his being a Perpetual and gave out the psychic Highlander power intended for a Horus-analogue.
>>47116032
>not even equal
Huh. That just makes Teclis' scheme seem pointless in hindsight, then.
>3 beings
Sigmar and...who else?
>40K lore also sucks
Hey, no argument here. I'm just hoping against hope there's some semblance of logic to why things happen
>>47116093
If the BL Horus heresy books are canon, then yes. He is a perpetual that went for the super premium chaos power package, then didn't want to pay up. He stole the proverbial fire from the gods, and they want it back.
>>47116093
It's as official as anything else from BL is.
>>47116105
Some perpetuals are created by the Eldar. So I guess it's the legacy of the Old Ones technology.
>>47115997
I wouldn't be surprised if what they gave him were their "good" aspects (explaining why he ain't a crazy fucknut like Horus), and when he finally dies they'll get their "good" sides back and become not Evil but rather Neutral and that will be sorta vicotry over Chaos.
>>47116195
That would be retarded
which means its probably correct
>tfw the entire AoS is just parenthesis that resolves into a giant "change time" thing and restores the warhammer world, becoming two different game lines.
I know it won't happen, but one can dream
>>47115997
>>47116271
>greatest DI
>Eldrad
>filename
>implying Eldrad is Vect
>>47116353
>greatest dick, duh
>vect is offscreen
So, /whfb/ what are you currently working on?
>>47116395
Painting Witch Elves. Gotta get the blood spatter right.
>>47116105
Teclis's scheme was to seal off the world from Chaos more efficiently than the Vortex. With so little magic in it, Chaos couldn't manifest Daemons and their blessings would be weak as hell. The world would run on science and weak, more stable magic.
The three beings are Tyrion, Teclis, and Morelion (which is Malekith fused with a dragon). Slaanesh gorged himself on souls during End Times, and for some reason souls were treated like physical food for this story. Just like a creepy vore comic he got so inflated he couldn't move, so he hid in a cave to sleep and digest.
When Archaon, Khorne, Nurgle, and Tzeentch attacked Sigmaron the plan was they would all fight back united, and defeat Chaos. But TT and M disappeared right before the battle. They found Slaanesh and kidnapped him.
Sigmar had to fight with Gorkamorka, Alarielle, Morathi, Nagash, and Grimnir backing him, and they were winning until Archaon and Tzeentch decided to split them up by somehow making Nagash betray them. Sigmar chased after Nagash to kick his ass and left the battle to be lost. Alarielle, who's kind of insane now like a Wood Elf, lost interest in a war of survival and wandered off to the Realm of Life. Gorkamorka went full-retard and lead all of the monsters and greenskins and Ogres and Giants to fuck up all the Realms before Chaos could.
Sigmar gave up chasing Nagash and came back to find a sure battle was barely being even survived by Morathi and Grimnir, so he got angry and had the mortal men to build a massive wall that Tzeentch couldn't see through and closed off Sigmaron to everyone. They only had time to build the Wall because Khorne decided that instead of winning the battle, he'd go Gorkamorka and fuck up Chaos.
Chaos mopped up 99% of everything non-Chaos in the Realms while the Three and Archaon decided what to do. They kicked Slaanesh out of the Great Game, making him a lesser Chaos God, and promoted Horned Rat to Great Horned Rat.
>>47116545
I fail to see how that got this past anyone who had any emotional attachment to the setting. The office must be full of yesmen with shit mustaches.
>>47116545
Archaon took over as the head of Slaanesh's domains and was promoted to leader of all Chaos so they can get shit done without backstabbing. He plans on killing Sigmar and taking Ghal Maraz, which WILL happen due to a prophesy, and creating an eternal godless Realm. Because the Three are kind of aftaid he will do it they've been sending Champions to kill him but he's the strongest being in any Warhammer setting now so he just has Dorghar eat their souls so they both grow stronger. He's now dangerously close to becoming a Chaos God, but the problem for him is his true name isn't exactly a secret.
Meanwhile, Skavenblight got pulled from floating out in the space between spaces into the Warp, giving Skaven unlimited Warpstone. They had a massive population boom so the old Clans are now types of clans. Pestilens is more a race than Clan now for example.
They tunneled through the Warp until they accidently sunk it into the Realms, giving them access to literally everywhere including beneath the thrones of Sigmar and Khorne.
Sigmar made Sigmarines, opened the Wall and sent them to gather everyone not dead. Nagash got his ass kicked by Archaon, and now Archaon controls most souls that exist in a giant cage while Arkhan and Neferata try to keep shit under control. Mannfred is hated by everyone.
Slaaneshi either worship Archaon, are trying to save Slaanesh, or become the bew Slaanesh.
Morelion is protecting the Realm of Shadow and is the only one to give Archaon anything resembling a setback.
Alarielle was killed, but she became a seed that the Sigmarines planted in their blood so she is reborn a warrior.
Grungni blew up fighting a giant monster. From the flames, new Dwarfs were born that combined the cultures of Slayers and Chaos Dwarfs into one. Grungni's blood is magic gold spread all over creation that they are trying to gather to bring him back, but they also like putting it in their skin for a magic high.
>>47116395
Ghouls. Converting them to have rags on.
>>47116214
That's my view on the situation. Even if they crank out a good HH novel every now and then, they have overall just fucked up and they will keep fucking up.
>>47116545
>>47116712
Newest lore is Gordrakk is Grimgor, but as an Orkmarine who is uniting Destruction to fight everyone. Nobody, even Tzeentch, can manipulate them because they out chaos Chaos.
Only Slann survived the old setting. They are now omniscient and planning to destroy Chaos by doing shit like assassinating figures who will becone decent Chaos Champions or redurecting Warpgates to shoot Skaven into suns and shit.
They created a reproduction of Lustria and all the Lizardmen out of their monds made of Light magic, but it isn't real. Skinks, Saurus, everyone else is extinct. But on the plus side, their blood cleanses everything. EVERYTHING.
So there. All Age lore summarized, minus minor plots.
It wouldn't be so bad if it was its own universe, like Blood Bowl.
>>47116844
So the Lizardmen is the only good part of the setting then? It at least sounds like they are trying to do something about Chaos in a non retarded way.
>>47116844
>It wouldn't be so bad if it was its own universe, like Blood Bowl.
maybe it is
multiverse is canon
>>47116844
inb4 Lizardman blood makes Archaon a good guy.
>>47116844
So they just need to literally pile up on Archaon to defeat him when he tries to stab them? They should just have kamikaze pterodactyls.
>>47117111
>>47117199
Sadly, they really did set up a redemption arc.
There is apparently good inside him, Diederich Kastner is still inside him deep down. Combine that with someone saying his true name controlling the Daemon side, and him seeing himself in a vision about to take Ghal Maraz, plus a bunch of stuff like Tzeentch cultists trying to find his true name and shit, and Valten's ET speech to him.
Its a fucking mess, and its going to be absolute fanfiction tier garbage.
>>47116712
>he's the strongest being in any Warhammer setting now
Oh boy. So he's done things on par with the Necrontyr and C'tan at the height of their power? And out-psykered Emps? At the moment what I'm seeing is Horus with stupid amounts of plot armor.
Also,
>Alarielle is now a reincarnated Elf Marine Goddess of Life
fuck no
why
>>47116844
>out chaos CHAOS
WHY.
At least lizardmen are still based. Why is Morathi fighting against Chaos anyway, and what's she up to at this point? Last I heard she was going to unleash Slaanesh on everything.
>>47117377
AoS seemed like fanfic tier to begin with. Which is hilarious because WHFB basically started out as fanfic and it was never as bad in general as AoS fluff is.
Horus at the top of his Chaos game was always a big threat, though. He was one of the most capable primarchs granted will the complete blessings of all the four Chaos gods. It took the Emperor to bring him down and he had to destroy Horus soul in doing so.
>>47117391
>At the moment what I'm seeing is Horus with stupid amounts of plot armor.
Chaos outranks everyone in either setting, and he can now give orders to ANY Chaos being other than Chaos Gods. The best of the best of Chaos have faced him, he absorbed their power.
Great Horned Rat is afraid of him, and he openly threatens Tzeentch. Plus Tzeentch, Khorne, and Nurgle are worried enough about his plans that they are trying to kill him by sending everything they have that is willing to fight him to try and kill him, continually making him stronger like a JRPG protag.
Its stupid alright, but his entire power is "can't lose". He can lose a battle to Morelion, but if anyone is matched against him himself he /wins.
Is Genevieve in the game?
>>47117582
>his entire power is "can't lose"
To clarify is this just shitty writing making everyone job to him, or is this the power of the actual prophecy surrounding his rise?
I'm still seeing nothing compared to the C'tan's galaxy-spanning feasts other than a lot of people going M-MASAKA, BAKANA! at his rise to power
>>47117453
>WHY
Know how in Batman, Joker keeps hetting pushed way too hard because apparently being crazy and unpredictable is a damn superpower?
That.
>Why is Morathi fighting against Chaos anyway, and what's she up to at this point? Last I heard she was going to unleash Slaanesh on everything.
7e retconned Morathi as Slaaneshi. She's just insane, acts like everything is like it was back in Aenarion's really fucked up court. Fell in love with Tyrion in End Times thinking he WAS Aenarion.
In Age, Morelion found her in the middle of a party witn Shadow Daemons, which are all loyal to her. She agreed to join Sigmar because basically everything not Chaos did.
She wasn't really mentioned after that, so in the fuckup jamboree she stayed with him because it mentioned everyone else who left having done so.
>>47117473
You think THAT'S fanfic?
Nurgle sent his greatest son to capture Alarielle and bring her to him. The Sigmarines teleported to Sigmaron where upon seeing Sigmar's radiant visage which cleansed him he dropped to his knees and swore loyalty, and was made a Sigmarine in charge of his own Stormcasts.
That's rught. Sigmar made a Primarch out of Nurgle's head Chaos Champion.
This isn't even how Skaven all automatically take and fail a Terror test seeing Lizardmen due to ancestral PTSD of Lustria Vietnam despite not knowing anything about the old setting or Lizardmen, and the blood of a Saurus cleansing Nurgle's best and mosy incurable plagues instantly making a clean and attractive immune to disease man out of a Champion.
>>47117723
...I must be really out of touch with Fantasy. Since when was Morathi EVER in love with Aenarion? I thought she was a gold digger just in it to become queen of the elves.
>shadow daemons
>loyal to her
>not being Chaos
what is this even
>>47117665
No.
The only BL-original characters who got models and rules were Gotrek and Felix, but only for a very short time before being removed.
>>47117672
Archaon's backstory for what he was doing for the 10,000 years of peace that lead into Age is "busy destroying entire universes". I shit you not.
Its stated the only reason he hasn't won is he has to be careful, kill a god in the new setting without removing their magic destroys the Realm they represent, and he needs all the Realms to get his omnipotence as the destroyer of Chaos and ruler of all reality. So Archaon COULD shatter all the Realms easy by himself, but is trying to balance not destroying them but controlling literally all of them plus all of Chaos.
Oh, and he's winning against everyone and we know that he does win in the end thanks to him giving himself a prophesy that even Tzeentch and Kairos believe.
Oh...and he gets a redemption arc.
Did I mention that Sigmarines, more fearless than Daemons and Undead, are afraid of him? Or that Dorghar is a genius with the powers of Tzeentch, Nurgle, and Khorne while Archaon has Slaanesh's power? Or that Dorghar eats the souls of those he kills, meaning he's teabagging all of his kills at all times?
>>47117672
The power Horus is granted is being the mortal proxy of the Chaos gods. He is capable of making strategical decisions and stay coherent. This is a great asset to Chaos because the Chaos gods are generally not pragmatic or coherent.
>>47117874
They retconned the fuck out of shit in 7e 8e to prep for End Times and Age of Sigmar.
Even worse, the description of the Daemons makes it clear they are Daemonettes. But she's still on the side of Order, as are they.
It wasn't even that they are post-Slaanesh free agents, that's 10k years before Slaanesh got abducted.
>>47118016
I think 8'th edition started out as damage control for the Storm of Chaos fluff. Then after Storm of Magic was not a huge hit they probably started planning the End Times.
>>47118016
I find the idea of Morathi ever being in love with Aenarion more dissonant than Daemonettes of Order frankly, given her prior characterisation.
>>47117971
>entire universes
>ruler of all reality
Oh for fuck's sake. How did he even get this buff? He doesn't have anything like Emps' pedigree.
>>47118156
>Archaon trudged through the black snow. His armoured boots were wrapped in the furs of some barb-skinned beast, the bony spines of which gave the warrior purchase across the frost and ice. The skies raged away above him, spitting and swirling like a ghostly, maddened creature, chasing its own tail. The armour of Morkar, First Everchosen of Chaos scalded his skin with its raw embrace. Archaon could not feel such pain. He wouldn’t allow it. The common miseries of existence were nothing to him now. With every step he took towards a doom of his own making, he became less of a man and more of an idea. An abstraction. A living misery for others to endure. He was not some character in a great tale told. He was the silence after the words. The covers of the tome slammed shut. The crackle of page and ink on the fire. He was the nevermore.
To understand Archaon you must know what he really is. He is no man, he is no beast, he is no daemon, he is no god. He is the "End" Personified. Oblivion incarnate.
You cannot stop what he has become. You cannot kill what he represents.
>>47118392
Great. So now anyone in Fantasy can just sort of "become" abstract concepts. So Sigmar can just do enough sit-ups and become Humanity Personified. Or Nagash can finally become Death Personified once he gets his second wind. Or Morathi can shlick hard enough and mantle Slaanesh TES style.
It's like Dragonball Super if Dragonball Super's big major revelation was the same as early Dragonball Z's
>>47118147
According to Thorpe, End Times and Age were planned in 6e.
Storm of Chaos was probably supposed to result in it.
30 years later, those disgusting outdated models are still here.
Come on GW I would buy a pack of 10 updated plastic squig for 60€...
>>47118498
Nagash is Death personified, he controls all souls. Even those of Chaos. Anyone like Sigmarines or the Glottkin, he sees as stolen.
But by eating the old Death, you become the new one.
>>47118626
Third parties make Squigs. Damn good ones.
http://titan-forge.com/fantasy_miniatures_drakskulls_menace
>>47118626
Yeah, I would easily buy 5 box at this price... I'm waiting a night gobo update for now like 12 years...
Looks like Gw just doesn't want my money
>>47118630
I thought he became Death using a pyramid made of warpstone, eating all the human death gods and finally the other wind of magic. And that he spent most of his time TRYING to become Death, and only succeeded by the time of Sigmar when new Realms with their symbiotic gods appeared.
The whole thing really reminds me of TES the more I think about it.
>>47118626
Honestly, this is the one GW range decision I can abide. Squigs are inherently Earlyhammer in concept and would lose so much character by being updated. Also, they'd probably be renamed Mawchompa Squiglings in the process, which would be yet another clusterfuck of unnecessary syllables in the range.
>>47118654
>http://titan-forge.com/fantasy_miniatures_drakskulls_menace
Huh. Undead Orcs. I think I see a new Strigoi army concept...
>>47118392
>He was not some character in a great tale told.
They got one thing right...
>>47118498
No, only Archaon.
Because he is a wounded and wronged man who did nothing wrong. He was backed into a corner and abandoned by everyone including the god he worshipped and cherished above everything. He is alone and has nothing to lose.
This opened his eyes and enlightened him to the truth behind existence and the gods that plague it. This lead to his metamorphosis into the Nevermore.
>>47118609
Not really.
You misread.
>>47118749
I see now. So you just need to break some sort ofmental limiterto go about becoming an anthropomorphic personification.
I'm starting to see why Archaon has been compared to anime.
>>47118729
>http://titan-forge.com/fantasy_miniatures_drakskulls_menace
Yeah those are nice...Good find.
>>47118666
He ate the death gods, and gained power over death so he relocated the afterlife to Sylvania.
When Teclis undid the Vortex, Death magic was bound to him. It fully obeyed his every whim.
In Age, he IS Death magic. The afterlife is where he points his finger.
Archaon destroyed his physical form, then trapped all non-undead dead souls in a giant cage so he could focus on other things.
>>47118749
He found out he was a rapebaby, and demanded God personally come down and pat him on the shoulder. When it didn't happen, he decided to kill everyone everywhere.
>The homeless man on Kevin's neighborhood told him that he lead a biker to rape Kevin's mom, concieving him. So Keven demanded Jesus come down and explain why bad things happened to him, and when Jesus didn't show up Keven decided to get a gun, kill everyone at his school, then all of Detroit, then break into the White House and nuke the world because that wpuld be justice enough for Kevin.
>>47118392
>>47118749
carnac pls
>>47118609
http://web.archive.org/web/20100506001217/http://www.bugeatergames.com/?p=123
>Me: Okay, lastly I’m going to hit home a little bit. Some people felt the ending to Storm of Chaos was … well … disappointing. It felt like all the major players showed up and … nothing happened. I mean, I’m pretty sure Archaon should be a spawn right now. What happened? Is the goal to keep the background stable so that way it simply serves as backdrop for people’s armies rather than an advancing plot? I know your time as Loremaster is done, but do you think there will ever be a massive advancement in the plot line?
>Gav: The main intent of Storm of Chaos was to bring the conflicts of the Warhammer world into a stark present. It was never meant to be a continuing narrative, but was a move to highlight the idea of a world at war. It was a beginning rather than an end – the Dark Elves are invading Ulthuan, the forces of Chaos are invading the Old World, the Tomb Kings are prosecuting their war against the living, the Orcs are on the rampage. This took those ideas out of the history and into the present. The outcome of the campaign was to decide the specifics of that new ‘present age’, and then the setting would freeze again.
>Given that much of the timeline has been wound back to exclude the events of the Storm of Chaos, I cannot see any other advancements in the future.
>>47118609
The End Times was always a thing foreshadowed in the fluff, just like 40k is always at the brink of the apocalypse. Back then it was never intended as a campaign event.
>>47118912
>‘Don’t leave me,’ Kastner pleaded with his lord, ‘the plaything of fate. Show me a sign – in this place of all places. Anything, curse you.’ But nothing came. Kastner’s lifetime of devotion and service was rewarded with the kind of monumental silence only a towering statue could deliver.
>‘You speak not,’ Kastner mouthed within the darkness of his helmet, ‘but I hear everything. Silence will be met with silence, God-King. Nothing so singularly personifies the prayer unanswered as a god powerless to save his people. So be it. You will watch your worshippers suffer and die – as I drag down your Empire into the embers of Armageddon. You will hear me then, God-King. You will hear me in the pleading prayers of your people, held under my blade. You will hear me in the ravenous fires – that will eat all you have lived to build. You will hear me in the deafening silence of the End Times, where I will leave your petty Empire no world left to conquer. Though half-blind, I see you for the fraud you have always been. The appealing ramblings of a mad friar. I renounce your false majesty – and will forge a path of my own making. I will champion my undoing and accept allegiance of those that already answer the hatred in my heart. I do this out of hatred for you, my lord. Out of hatred for all the fickle Powers of this world, who play at destiny with men’s souls. With darkness lies a new beginning, as with me lies the end of man and all godkind.’
Everything Archaon ever did was in the name of his true god. All those lives he took, all those nations he ground to nothing, all of it is a prayer. A cry of help .
Even in deepest pits of corruption and hate, Archaon reaches out desperately to his true father. He wants Sigmar to save him. To absolve him. To redeem him. To return him to the light.
He yearns to be once again an instrument of justice. Sigmar's hammer hand.
It's the greatest love story ever told!
>>47118626
Your shitpost-fu is weak and brings shame upon your bloodline.
>>47119105
C'mon now. This is getting old, Carnac. No one cares about about your tulpa.
>>47119205
I will keep on it until Sigmar saves him and we get Based Kastner back.
Archaon's and Sigmar's final fight theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEWOTdVnnZ8
>>47118847
if i remember right Nagash was the first one to take a wind to his body, which gave Teclis the idea of making incarnates in the first place
>>47119205
>>47118984
Seriously who the fuck's carnac?
Archaon should have died at the end of Storm of Chaos, it would have been better for the fluff and the game.
And just ignore the idiots who keep trying to force End Times/AoS fluff here. Its awful and they are just spiteful assholes.
hmm
>>47119592
fixed
>>47119657
>>47119105
That's nice.
Most of the Empire never knew Sigmar or their fathers.
Yet he's the only one so memtally unstable he became a school shooter.
>>47119367
Shitposter, gloms onto characters and masturbates them.
Name comes from him doing it to a character named Carnac in 40k threads.
>>47119727
well, he's better than Slav though
even Belakorfag was better than Slav
Sigmar Sues.
>>47119749
Be'lakorfag WAS Carnac. Slav got banned for shitposting, finally.
>>47118392
>>47118749
>>47119105
>>47119267
>>47119657
>I was only 9 years old
>I loved Archaon so much, I had all the miniatures, books and rule 34
>I pray to Archaon every night before bed, thanking him for the life that will be taken
>"Archaon is everchosen" I say; “Archaon is doom”
>My dad hears me and says that Archaon is a pretentious nihilist faggot with dramaqueen entitlement issues
>I know he was just jealous of my burning devotion for Archaon
>I told him to prepare for the End Times, puny mortal and called him a Sigmar quireboypussy
>He looks at me like I'm an idiot, slaps me and sends me to go to sleep
>I’m crying now, and my face hurts
>I lay in bed and it’s really cold
>Suddenly, a burning warmth is moving towards me
>It’s Archaon
>I am so exalted
>He whispers into my ear “Mortals are free to do as they will. The gods give them no choice.”
>He grabs me with his powerful bulky gauntlets and puts me down onto my hands and knees
>I’m ready
>I spread my ass-cheeks for Archaon
>He penetrates my butt-hole with his eight pointed phallus
>the eightfolded path hurts so much but I do it for Archaon
>I can feel my butt tearing in eight directions and my eyes start to water as the warp overtakes me
>I push against his force
>I want to please Archaon
>He roars in a mighty roar as he fills my butt with his acursed seed that will burn this world
>My dad walks in
>Archaon looks him straight in the eyes and says “Fear me mortals, for I am the Anointed, the favoured Son of Chaos, the Scourge of the World. The armies of the gods rally behind me, and it is by my will and by my sword that your weakling nations shall fall."
>Archaon leaves in a hurry through my window, on his horse as my dad angrily chases him away with a stagehand hammer
>Archaon is everchosen. Archaon is doom.
>>47119784
> Slav got banned for shitposting,
Proof?
>>47119849
Do you see him in any of the last three threads, or in the AoS threads?
Also, when he stopped posting almost all of his posts that day were deleted.
>>47119843
>I spread my ass-cheeks for Archaon
not
>I spread my eight pointed star
r8 my 8th list m8s:
High Beastmaster
>Manticore
>Armour of Destiny
Master
>battle standard
>Enchanted Shield
Dreadspear x10
>command
Dreadspear x10
>Lichebone pennant
>command
Dark Riders x5
>repeater crossbows
>command
Hydra
>Spit fire
Scourgerunner chariot
Kharibdyss
Bloodwrack Medusa
Bloodwrack Medusa
>>47119987
Oh, and it's 1500, forgot to add.
>>47119987
Spears a shit, get crossbowmen or more Riders
BSB needs horse.
Magic will rape you, hard.
>>47119917
He hadn't earned his mark yet.
>>47117377
>here is apparently good inside him, Diederich Kastner is still inside him deep down
This really gives me the Lich King vibes.
I don't like it
>>47120068
>>47119987
reworked
High Beastmaster
>Manticore
>Armour of Destiny
Master
>battle standard
>Dark Steed
Sorceress
>Dark Steed
Dark Riders x5
>repeater crossbows
>command
Dark Riders x5
>repeater crossbows
>command
Dark Riders x5
>repeater crossbows
>command
Hydra
>Spit fire
Scourgerunner chariot
Kharibdyss
Bloodwrack Medusa
>>47119727
>Name comes from him doing it to a character named Carnac in 40k threads.
The name comes from The Carnac Campaign, a set of BL stories (based on GW fluff) focusing on the Eldar in a war where they lost against the Necrons. The actual character Carnac anon spammed praise of to the degree that they became associated with each other - though he'd really already been doing this sort of thing for a while - was one Illic Nightspear, probably because of how much Illic's story hyped up the Necrons' relevance in the setting. Necrons being Carnac's favourite 40k faction along with Tau and Chaos. And since Chaos is in both Warhammers, when Carnac crossed over to /whfb/ (IIRC at some point before the End Times) he brought his Chaos love with him.
The OP made me remember something actually: when the End Times began and brought Nagash back, Carnac spent some time wanking Drachenfels as well, constantly reminding everyone that Nagash was a poser and nothing compared to the Great Enchanter etc. though in that case it didn't last.If only the same were true for Be'lakor and Archaon and everything else.
Zombie pirates mostly unrelated, just something slightly more appealing, and probably better-smelling, to round this post off.
>>47119752
What am I looking at.
I just can't get the idea out of my head that Archaon is the Roman Reigns of Warhammer. Just somehow worse.
>>47120503
Yeah, the Drachenfag was most likely Carnac, because they had the same autistic level of character worship.
>>47119752
Fucking hell! I know that AoS is a lowkey thing in terms of fluff, but does no one at Games Workshop proofread their crap before they publish?
>>47120902
Nah, I was just mocking him by pretending to be him and posting edited pictures of Drachenfels. You have no IDEA how annoying he was in pre-End Times threads. He was more annoying than the Everqueen dude who kept saying that Everqueen could bitchslap Slaanesh and that he was as powerful as the Emperor and stuff.
I am glad that both of then got BTFO during the End Times.
>>47120631
Ultramarine wank.
>>47121052
To be fair, she did kind of bitchslap him in one book. But that book was a massive outlier in canon even when it was released.
>>47121052
No Carnac, you are the Drachenfels.
>>47121052
I would like to correct my post.
Drachenfels anon was bad but he was nothing compared to the FUCKING Half Orcs guy. Derailing every thread to arguments about Orgainas.
>>47121114
More like blood angels/celestial lions.
>>47121213
I think he at least went away. Carnac is like herpes. Once you got it, you have it for life.
>>47119987
Swap medusa for warlocks.
>>47113954
The fuck is vermintide?
Is it good?
>>47119784
>Slav got banned for shitposting, finally.
oh, i did think that threads were... cleaner, but I daren't even hope... i guess there's a god in heaven and mods in 4chan after all.
>>47121494
yes. it's quite awesome.
lumberfoot.
>>47121494
Left4Dead in the Old World with Skaven and apparently also in the future the magical undead of WHFB rather than just zombies.
>>47121528
I havn't been in /whfb/ for a year just until this week. Who is the slav, is he the pro-Stalin guy and what did I miss?
>>47121700
he ain't pro-Stalin, he just writes in mangled engrish and he basically troll AoS-haters with shitty AoS propaganda and if that doesn't work takes ultra-hater stance and tells everyone who ain't hating on AoS to go to AoS thread
from what I hear, he was doing basically the same thing in AoS threads too
>>47121790
Yeah, he trolled the shit out of both.
Every five minutes, "why you still are playing dead gaem from dead setting, aos points out so 9th age on notice and dead".
>>47121813
there was no need to quote him though, jeez
>>47120977
What's wrong with it?
>>47122039
Literally all of it.
>>47122039
The phrase "Drakestorm Extremis Chamber" is a firing offence alone.
>>47119752
>it was not the seraphon that arrived unlooked for to turn the tide of battle
Would I ever want two Screaming Bells?
>>47122362
Archaon destroyed a vastly technologically superior foe with HATE.
>Age lore
>Age geography
What kills me is these realms are "near infinite". Which is something that doesn't exist, something can only be finite, infinite, or conditionally finite/infinite.
All so they don't have to make any world maps and stick to them.
>>47122587
So basically there are a few landmarks (cities, forts, whatever) named and that's it?
>>47122683
Near infinite. There are as many landmarks as the plot demands, no comprehensive map will ever exist and every story has its own map which is the only one it obeys.
Where is this in relation to the others? Who the hell knows! You just know what realm its on.
>>47122745
That's what I was afraid of. Call me old fashioned but for me it cheapens the value of the setting.
Not that I don't like the concept of infinite realms but I get the impression they were just too lazy to come up with anything.
The quality of these "maps" reinforce that belief.
>>47122039
This >>47122311
>>47122689
>>47122745
>>47122668
>>47122587
Jesus, did they take photoshop to a tryhard 10th grader's notebook scribbles?
>>47123297
They outsourced it to some cheap ass chinaman on deviantart. They have been doing this with 40k as well.
>>47123297
Yes.
Hell, half the Sigmarine art is CG models posed and with a filter, they released proof bragging about it.
>>47122522
>Lantic Empire
>they just removed the At from Atlantic
>>47123476
Isn't that what the did with all of those horrible Black Library covers that looked like someone went nuts with layers and the smudge tool in photoshop?
>>47123535
At least it's not Nulahmia.
>>47123476
Actually "bragging" or just showing WIPs?
>>47123535
>Albion
>Nippon
>Cathay
>etc.
>>47123629
Well, I guess Lantic Empire would be a pretty highbrow name with the AoS naming convention?
>>47122587
>What kills me is these realms are "near infinite". Which is something that doesn't exist
It's a figure of speech.
>all this aos discussion in /whfb/
Hmm.
>>47122587
>landmarks dumped wherever with no rhyme or reason
>>47124327
We love talking shit about it, of course.
How can you not? AoS is so bad that literally all of Warhammer Fantasy is good in comparison. 4chan runs on shit talking, and now anytime someone brings up not measuring distances or Thanquol being a dumbass someone says "Yeah, but in AoS its REALLY bad".
Its our version of a shitty Hollywood remake.
>>47123679
>>47123629
>>47123535
Lantic is actually pretty Oldhammer. Nowadays everything needs a four syllable name with both stresses in the middle, like:
>Witchfate Tor,
>Dragonfate Dias,
>Direstone Redoubt,
>Swifthawk Agents,
>Aleguzzler Gargants,
>Beastclaw Raiders,
>Stormcast Eternals,
>Ironweld Arsenal,
>Eldritch Council,
>Darkling Covens,
>Extremis Chamber,
>etc.
>etc.
>>47125004
Thanquol may be a dumbass, but he's a lovable dumbass(in a Saturday morning cartoon villain kind of way). Don't be disrespect-hating on my boy Thanquol up in here.
sup /tg/, me and my friend are getting into the 9th age, and I have a question with how ridden monsters work there.
Namely, I'm not sure if i'm reading the rules right.
If I have an Orc Warboss on Wyvern, the wyvern always takes all hits, and when the wyvern dies, so does the Warboss? Seems a bit strange.
>>47126833
It saves you having to have a model for the on foot character or the unmounted monster.
>>47127109
It just seems weird that I can lose the hero because their pet dragon died.
What happens to female skaven born with white fur and horns?
>>47119752
I know that GW is currently hiring DeviantArt-tier artists to do their illustrations but God damn do they have to hire the same people to write their fluff as well?!?!
So, I'm recently started getting into 9th, and I'm looking for advice on this list-
Lords-
- Iron Orc Warlord (Blessed Sword, Hardened Shield, Talisman of Supreme Shielding, Potion of Strength, Plate Armor, War Boar)-275
- Savage Orc Big Shaman (Fencer's Swords, Gem of Fortune, Dispel Scroll)-305
Heroes-
- Feral Orc Chief (Battle Standard Bearer, Screaming Swords, Mithril Mail, Waaargh! Paint)-130
Core-
- 38x Feral Orc 'Eadbashers (Champion, Musician, Veteran Standard Bearer, Banner of Speed, Mammoth Stabber, Paired Weapons)-468
- 20x Orcs (Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer, Crossbows, Heavy Armour)-200
Special-
- 13x Mounted 'Eadbashers (Champion, Musician, Standard Bearer, Stalker's Standard, Shields, Heavy Armor)-348
1726 points, and I want to build to both 2000, 2400, and 2500. Foot characters into the block, and General into his orc Hammer unit of boars.
What should I add for my leftover 274/674/774 points? I really want to use the units I have chosen, as I own Ruglud's Armoured Orcs and 42 Boars(16 normal, 26 savages). I'm unsure if that extra 25 points for the 4++ versus the 5++ on my Lord General is worth it though. He does have a 1+ armor already...
>>47127522
Good lore doesn't automatically sell models, may as well just shit something out like an MtG flavor text.
>>47127202
Its more cavalry.
In real life, when the horse went down the man usually didn't survive.
>>47127510
Whatever you want, because GW will never go more into detail about them.
They'd make Skaven asexual spore rats to never have to explain it if they gavemore or less of a fuck.
>>47127995
the man riding that Wyvern is no man. He is an inhuman monster that towers over men, with impenetrable armour and supernatural blessings. (t5 w3 1+5++ Orc Warlord)
He will live through that fall.
>>47128015
That's why combined profiles were the best things of the end times... It actually made monsters above garbage level.
>>47125412
using >etc when you don't have any more example.
>>47122587
i guess "near infinite" is something like minecraft server. it is finite at any given moment, but you an walk in a direction infinitely and the world will extend with you
not that it makes it any less retarded
>>47122745
>>47122689
>>47122668
>>47122587
seriously... I made better designed and named settings in my school days, jeez
>>47128467
>>47122587
>Doesn't know what a Stylistic Device is.
I guess you speak English (Simplified) ?
Ahh the land of the free.
>>47128482
Wow, where can we see those :^) ?
>>47128509
I still keep my doodle sketchbooks somewhere in shoebox, may actually scan them and upload next time someone brings up AoS settings
>>47128369
>monsters above garbage level
Where does this meme come from, monsters were great in 8th and 7th
>>47122668
Is this a doom 4 level map?
>>47128963
It's not a corridor, so I doubt it
>>47127510
>>47127510
Personal slut for grey seers?
Another normal bloated spawner?
Nothing different from a normal grey seer?
Get eaten for dishonoring the horned rat?
Not happening at all?
Up to you as long as it doesn't become fapbait or a strong independent woman
>>47129026
I don't think that gapping to the save could be a thing.
>>47125004
True. I struggle to think of anything in WHFB that is as bad as AoS thst isn't something out of the End Times. AoS makes Ulrika the vampire seem lovable and thoughtful.
>>47127522
I think this is the legacy of Kirby. He is the man that decided that people are only into GW products for the miniatures and presumingly shifted the writing and art budget to miniatures.
>>47129319
>and presumingly shifted the writing and art budget to miniatures.
Doubting it, see >>47128403
He probably just cut the budget, both for minis and art.
>>47129327
I presume Kirby shifted it to the miniature budget so they could increase the rate of miniature production.
>>47122668
>skullheaps
>it's just a pile of skulls
>>47115859
>And if your name is Teclis you can just eat two Winds without even needing any divine heritage.
And doing so caused his mortal body to burn up.
>>47115997
BL has not clearly stated anything about the Emperor's past, only hinting at it. Even if he is a Perpetual there are seemingly a few ways to become one through both natural and artificial means.
What the Chaos gods gave the Emperor or Molech is also ambiguous and if anything was probably what he need to create the Primarchs. Portions of the 40k fanbase however have a massive hard on for the past and a hatred for BL and the HH, so they will take ambiguous information and twist it to justify their screeching.
>>47116032
Only Tyrion and Malekith went after Slaanesh and even then it's said that Khorne somehow played a role and that the entire thing was a scheme by Tzeentch. So at this point it really just seems like a ploy on Tzeentch's part to knock one or at least severely weaken one of the players of the Great Game.
>>47118016
>They retconned the fuck out of shit in 7e 8e to prep for End Times and Age of Sigmar.
No they didn't, they retconned the pleasure cults because they wanted that aspect of the Dark Elves to stand apart from Chaos.
>Even worse, the description of the Daemons makes it clear they are Daemonettes.
There is no description, they're called shadow daemons and that is it.
>>47118688
Except there would be absolutely no reason to rename the squigs, that's stupid panic shit.
>>47129430
>What the Chaos gods gave the Emperor or Molech is also ambiguous and if anything was probably what he need to create the Primarchs. Portions of the 40k fanbase however have a massive hard on for the past and a hatred for BL and the HH, so they will take ambiguous information and twist it to justify their screeching.
I like to think that they gave him the secret to creating Chaos warriors and he reverse engineered that into Primarchs and Space Marines. I do think that BL has deserved a lot of scorn with all the Primarch daddy issue angst shit they publish.
>>47113954
I really need to reread the genevieve series...
>>47129485
Likewise. It was pretty great.
>>47125004
Honestly to me it comes off as pretty fucking pathetic that the majority of your thread is devoted to AoS with sparse mentions of 40k.
I thought Fantasy was still a living game?
>>47129481
>I do think that BL has deserved a lot of scorn with all the Primarch daddy issue angst shit they publish.
The daddy issue shit was already present though and was the reason why a majority of the Traitor Primarchs turned, they felt like they were getting a bad deal from the Emperor or that he had slighted them in some way.
If that makes the HH bad then it was always bad and people only tolerated it because there was only a scrap of a timeline available and so they could fantasize about how each of the Primarchs were supermen and other HFY nonsense.
>>47129539
>I thought Fantasy was still a living game?
It's not.
There is no new content and 9th Age is a sham. so AoS is all they have.
>>47129554
hey slav, thought you were banned
>>47129578
Not the Slav.
And considering that he started today's AoS thread, I don't think he banned. Four AoS threads went and gone, you guys are still on one thread. The only worthwhile "discussion" you guys had in this thread was about AoS and 40K. Shameful Display.
>>47129554
>so AoS is all they have.
it's same as saying "Warmahordes is all they have". the only thing really binding WHFB and AoS is GW agency, which isn't important. if I decided to quit WHFB I have no more reason to go to AoS than to any other game, gameplay quality notwithstanding
>>47120408
That's more like it except DR don't need full Command, just Musician will do, saved points can be used on more gear for Heroes (% per Hero slot permitting) or upgrading Medusa to something else - her problem is she has crap Ld do you need to keep her in Generals command range, which is very inconvenient for otherwise very mobile army.
>>47129611
What I mean is that since GW is updating AoS, the only content you guys are willing to discuss is AoS. Nobody likes to discuss something that is dead.
Though, I expect that the Total War game will revive these threads for a month or two.
>>47129539
>The daddy issue shit was already present though and was the reason why a majority of the Traitor Primarchs turned, they felt like they were getting a bad deal from the Emperor or that he had slighted them in some way.
>If that makes the HH bad then it was always bad and people only tolerated it because there was only a scrap of a timeline available and so they could fantasize about how each of the Primarchs were supermen and other HFY nonsense.
No, it's bad because they are doing the daddy issues unironically. According to Rick Priestley, the Horus Heresy was conceieved as a parody of Paradise Lost and he thinks that BL missed the point. So it was never intended to be done as straight as it has been done. This is just BL fucking up, not the source material being flawed in the way you describe it.
Having insecure supermanchildren with alarming personal disorder being in charge of a galaxywide military operation is just retarded when done seriously.
>>47129649
>According to Rick Priestley, the Horus Heresy was conceieved as a parody of Paradise Lost and he thinks that BL missed the point.
Source.
I got some old-style orcs in the post today. From EOE Orbis/Black Tree Design, previously sold as Harlequin or something. Sculpted by Kev Adams, so they definitely look like old metal GW orcs.
They're good, and if you wait for the regular 40% discount to roll around and buy a regiment pack, less than £1 per model for a solid lump of metal.
Bit goofy in the best possible way, can't wait to paint them up.
(the second set here: http://www.frothersunite.com/files/wk/sc/orcs/orcs1/orcs1.htm because they have a whole bunch of different orc designs)
(ps metal is good because you can trivially strip it of paint to hide your shame)
>>47129682
I would recomend is article to anyone who wants to know about how Warhammer came to be.
>http://unpluggedgames.co.uk/features/blood-dice-and-darkness-how-warhammer-defined-gaming-for-a-generation/
>“Bryan’s idea of Chaos was very much derived from [science fiction and fantasy author] Michael Moorcock,” he said. “I always thought it was a little too close for comfort, it looked like we were just copying.
>“But I’d always had this sense of Chaos existing as described in Paradise Lost. I’d tried to bring elements of that into the background and gradually change it from a description of demons into a kind of force out of which came realities, a kind of literal primal chaos.
>“Unless you’ve read Paradise Lost you don’t get it. The whole Horus Heresy is just a parody of the fall of Lucifer as described by Milton.”
>The civil war within the human Imperium would set the scene for 40k’s entire backstory, and the Space Marines would become the most recognisable figures in its fictional universe. But while recent editions of the game have cast them in a heroic light, Priestley argued that Games Workshop had misinterpreted the intent behind the characters.
>“To me the background to 40K was always intended to be ironic,” he said.
>“The fact that the Space Marines were lauded as heroes within Games Workshop always amused me, because they’re brutal, but they’re also completely self-deceiving. The whole idea of the Emperor is that you don’t know whether he’s alive or dead. The whole Imperium might be running on superstition. There’s no guarantee that the Emperor is anything other than a corpse with a residual mental ability to direct spacecraft.
>“It’s got some parallels with religious beliefs and principles, and I think a lot of that got missed and overwritten.”
>>47129813
Thanks.
>>47129813
>“To me the background to 40K was always intended to be ironic,” he said.
so, I get 40k just right. never could take it seriously.
>>47129891
That was the original idea. It's also why 40k becomes stupid when people wants it to make sense in the real world context.
>>47128403
Oh, sorry, I didn't realise you were writing the wikipedia page on shitty GW names. Allow me to continue.
>Drakespawn Chariot
>Paladin Decimators
>Order Serpentis
>Verminlord Corruptor
>Morghast Harbingers
Also,
>11 examples
>not enough
Having a nice look at some different regional Empire colour schemes for the army I'm planning. Want something bright and shiny. Looking at a guide now.
Talabecland or Talabheim perhaps?
>>47131695
Bogenhafen
>>47122390
Yes. One for your army, the other for your nightstand, so that you can wish it sweet dreams.
>>47127670
Got no experience with orcs, but I'd definitely improve the ward save if you can. There's plenty of stuff nowadays that ignores armour saves.
>>47131695
Take a look at the heraldry of the Empire supplement in the OP, should come in handy.
That said, I never liked neither of those two. If you want bright and shiny, have you thought about Middenheim?
>>47131802
I'm reading the guide in the OP now as a matter of fact.
Not sure about Middenheim, my Dwarfs are mainly blue and I wanted to try something different.
>>47131843
Ostermark, purple&yellow? You can use bright yellow and violet instead of purple, if you want to make it shinier.
what happened to anons who were working on Magnus the Pious campaign?
>>47132387
Mostly lack of feedback.
I think we should post it on 9th age forums or something
>>47129592
>Four AoS threads went and gone, you guys are still on one thread
That's just a lie Slav, this thread was made yesterday, a few hours before the current AOS thread.
>>47132552
That doesn't invalidate the fact that the other thread was so slow 3 AoS thread went.
>>47132579
'Cause a lot of us like to go over there shitposting more than coming here contributing.
>>47132876
Lies.
The four past AoS threads had little shitposting. Face it, outside of bitching about AoS these threads are dead.
http://www.the-ninth-age.com/news/index.php?news/296-over-14k-downloads-of-the-1-0-brb-within-a-week-and-webtraffic/
Guess I'll have to sign up sometime. Seems like the largest warhamms forum atm. Every other site seems pretty dead.
>>47132906
Of course it is deader here. Besides posting lists (yawn) and discussion 9th age (which most peoples hate with the same intesinty of Aos) what is left?
>had little shitposting
Ded game too. Face it.
>>47132970
>Ded game too. Face it.
Actually, they are dicussing new content. A game that has no content is nit dead. It will always spark discussion.
>>47132994
A game that has new content is not dead*
>>47132970
>>47132994
We are see the last days of it. Fantasy is dead, AoS will be soon. GW ll quit fantasy altogheter and concentrate on 40k, selling the ip to software houses publishing games after games of it.
One day, some SH, will finally come up with a tabletop simulator sparkling back the interest. GW ll jump back at it. Fucking it all over again.
Hey guys. I need some ideas to built centigors/harpies.
Fluff to my beasts ist that they live either in the jungels of Ind or the southlands and are only slightly touched by chaos. No mutations whatsoever. More a force of nature. I only want "normal" Gors and Ungors.
So I was thinking some sort of bats/or birds for my harpies and ungors on boars as centigors? I'm using the old metals for my rank&file so I could mount the bigger plastic ones to explain the better stats. Also combined profiles in 9th mean that ungors would use the toughness 4 of the mount anyway..Thoughts?
>>47133048
"Can what is dead ever truly die?" -- age of sigmar ad
>>47133205
you can use KoW centaurs and paint them indian-style
>>47133233
>you can use KoW centaurs and paint them indian-style
Didn't know they made beasts already. Might have to take a look at their range again sometime..
http://www.strawpoll.me/10152099
>>47133270
http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/kings-of-war/forces-of-nature/product/forces-of-nature-centaur-troop.html
http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/kings-of-war/forces-of-nature/product/forces-of-nature-centaur-chief.html
sadly (?), they are metal, so not as cheap as the rest of mantic minis
>>47132970
Nobody hates 9th.
Some people just prefer 6th.
>Have a skaven vs skaven battle
>My abomination gets flattened by a doomwheel
>Gets back up on full wounds
>Charge opponents abomination, get killed
>Gets back up on full wounds
>Abom is counter charged on next turn, dies
>Gets back up on full wounds
>mfw tfw
I fucking love skaven, most hilarious army in the game.
>>47134222
Is this what people are talking about when they say 9th sucked all of the fun out of the game?
Seems like the ruleset divides the community pretty evenly in LOLRANDOM+fluff bunnies vs. balance at all cost autists.
>>47134284
Yeah, my problem with 9th is that armies have lost their random fun. I'm pretty sure whoever wrote the 9th Age skaven list got touched in a bad way by ratmen, everything is horribly nerfed, the misfires are crippling, and it's just not as hilarious as a skaven army should be.
>>47134616
>the misfires are crippling
this is as it should be
>>47115922
Slaanesh embodied the spirit of the pre-fall Eldar, excess in all forms. Ynnead would embody post-fall Eldar, effectively becoming the Chaos God of Fuck-You-Slaanesh. He might not be powered by as many souls, but if they are unified in purpose, it might get the job done.
>>47134616
Winning=/=hilarity.
Skaven fun is Dwarf Fortress fun.
>>47133836
See, this is the shit that actually warded me and a bunch of other guys off. The 6th-elitists, who haven't played the game in 10 years.
When you wonder why these threads are dead nowadays just refer to the 'Only editions that can be divided by 3 have place here' guys.
>>47134616
idk, not a skaven fag but my friends skaven were just slaves + 23point rats+handler for core, plague monk death star (sometimes storm vermin death star too if he felt fancy), 1-2 abombs and then all the artillery he could fit. Wasn't exactly fun to play against and I had to tailor my lists HARD just to get a fighting chance.
Have only played new not-skaven once, so I'm not sure what they can do yet. I just hope it doesn't lead to the sort of one-sided matches we had in the past.
>>47135718
Forgot to add. He had the obligatory doom-rocket+bsb + 2 grey seer in 8th as well.
>>47118392
Didn´t he have a mindbroken sister of sigmar in his fucktent arparently he still has desieres
>>47135706
Are you an idiot? It was 8th and its massive increase in entry cost that 'warded people off'.
What could possibly scare you off about people who miss when the fluff, rules and models were better and the game was healthier.
>>47135718
Skavenfag here, some advice:
>Slaves
Get them out of leadership range, cause terror tests. Don't let them bog you down or distract you.
>Rats/handler
He's a fucking dick for using the rat dart, even I won't do that. Just shoot or blast the fuckers, or just stay put. He can waste time charging you or just get in the way of his own units.
>Death stars
Any spell that effects the whole unit, eg Dwellers, that fire cage one etc. For plague monks just use chaff to send them on a magical frenzied mystery tour so they spend half the battle trying to turn round.
>Aboms
Fire makes them cry. Ring of fire, the flaming banner etc causes guaranteed butthurt.
>Artillery
Warp cannons are shit. Send ambushers/flyers after them. If jezzails, cause a panic test and they're off.
What army do you play anon? Let's see if we can help.
>>47135706
Dude, if you want to discuss an edition just start asking questions.
We're familiar with ALL of them.
>>47135856
That was his love interest from before. Him turning evil made her lobotomized for Chaos by proximity or some shit.
It doesn't matter, she dies and he doesn't give a fuck because he's become the physical manifestation of edge by that point. Like, literally, he is vengeance incarnate (despite nobody having wronged him).
>>47136950
Hey Skavenfag, would I ever need two Screaming Bells? I got one, but found another cheap. Both of the OOP models.
Picked up a Saurus Warriors regimental box for less than £10 including postage. Don't even play Lizardmen. Will be cool to paint though I guess.
So I'm a talentless (can't model nor paint) poorfag. Is there a game like WHFB for me?
>>47138441
Total War: Warhammer. See the OP for links.
>>47138487
I was hoping for something I could play around a table, maybe with army men or something.
>>47138508
You can use unpainted models.
Or play X-Wing, it comes with prepainted models and nothing needs assembly other than putting the ship on a base. Its also the single most selling game in North America and more people attend its tourneys than do the Games Workshop games, so it should be easy to find other players.
I guess Heroclix? They're prepainted and assembled.
/tg/ has some homebrew Army Men and Lego games, but I don't know them and can't point you in their direction, sorry.
>>47138566
X-Wing sounds promising at least. Thanks for pointing that out.
Any good channels on Youtube to watch X-Wing and other wargames being played? Closest I get to playing these things are Columbia block games.
>>47138227
Not really, but leaving aside the gameplay, 2 OOP screaming bells should be a hoy to see.
>>47138603
The Cardboard Dungeon has a revew for every ship in the game, going over the contents. Bear in mind each review only compared ships to ships that were already out, so going back and watching the one for the X-Wing won't compare it to the meta when the B-Wing was released or name what awesome combos you can use it with when you have an A-Wing too, but you should probably eventually watch all of them so it doesn't matter much.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb9yxBzwOQWhv2_A-OsX0Pg/videos
Miniwargaming does X-Wing games.
https://www.youtube.com/user/miniwargaming/videos
Also, check out the 1d4chan page, its been converted into the best guide on the internet. Rambles on and on and some dumbfuck put the lore in alongside the tactics, but its still a good page and tells you how to get into the game.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Star_Wars_X-Wing_Miniatures_Game
Check the General here on /tg/ obviously, our community is shockingly good. I think some of the devs that make the game actually post here.
>>47138707
Thanks. I think I'll put it off then, keep it in mind. I have better things to spend $20 on.
As much as I like this version, the one I got in my other post has a much nicer looking bell.
>>47138603
Watch these too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n3u3OJ3uqw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU
>>47138709
>Miniwargaming does X-Wing games.
Oh neat. That is the channel that made Warhammer Fantasy look so fun, also wouldn't mind giving Kings of War a go.
>>47138227
>would I ever need two Screaming Bells?
"Gee-shucks Thanquol, why-why does the Horned Rat let you have TWO Screaming Bells?"
>>47136950
I'm the anon you replied to. Just came back from my night out.
Thanks but I don't really need help. 1) because I played that shit for years and know how to counter it relatively well. 2)Because we are playing 9th now. I was just trying to say that it my opponents list didn't really make for interesting games. I couldn't play the armies I liked I had to tailor them really really hard/skew them to have a fighting chance.
>>47127670
Anyone? I realized that I don't need a +2 save shield, so I can retool my General.
