Lets be honest with ourselves here for a moment: it was grimderp and grimbright that made 40k good; actual serious grimdark makes up its worst facets in the end.
Despite the setting taking itself seriously, stopping to build and consider it as a parody of grimdark from the reader and writer point of view is a mistake.
>>47113793
Your point is ?
Do you miss the 80's Rogue Trader aesthetics?
>I do
>>47113793
I don't mind the grimdark, I just don't want to WALLOW in it.
Or have the Tau completely ignore it.....it's immersion breaking. Get Orwellian, dammit, we're trying to have a bad time here!
>>47114519
This. The setting is best when it has both serious and comedic stuff mixed together.
Real life isn't purely serious or purely comedy, why does your fiction have to be completely different? What's wrong with having serious story with moments of comedic relief.
>>47114545
my nigga
>>47114519
They are already fucking orwellian thanks to mouth breathers like you.
>>47114545
The only aceptable opinion.
>>47114663
Yup.
I don't mind Tau being a *little* Orwellian.
The creepy implications of the Ethereals are enough, as is the subtle but omnipresent "CONFORM CONFORM CONFORM" stuff they have going. They're also pretty racist and have a freakin' caste system, so it's definitely not sunshine and roses.
Then you get into them treating the Kroot and all the other alien races as100% their slaves, or that they casually sterilize human populations all the time, and it loses the fun of having their problems be subtle things, boiling under the surface.
Also, them being hopelessly naive and ill-equipped to deal with the harsher aspects of the universe is part of the fun too. Eh, to each their own I suppose.
I feel like making that Patrick meme
>We take 40k, we make a gritty trailer
>then we make it 'colorful'
>>47114103
I miss the aesthetic, I don't miss the retarded designs, models and art.
>>47113793
No. I unironically love grimdark.
I think the silly shit in 40K is better gone, and I'm glad it was purged. Shit like Malal, Sensei Knights, half-Eldar or squats was really dumb, and it isn't setting-appropriate now.
I want pure misery porn. I want to see people suffer as much as possible.
I'm also pretty convinced that the Tau are evil, they just haven't admitted it to themselves yet.
>>47114519
The main reason Mad Max struck me as being a great 40k movie in tone was because the world was so completely off the rails insane you couldnt help but chuckle, yet everyone in that world took it dead fucking serious
>>47115420
Good ENB preset would make that much better. Fuck that ground texture though
>>47115420
Wait.
Are you fucking whining about the screenshots?
It looks fine.
>>47115537
>Half-Eldar
>Fluff admits they're rape babies
>not grimdark
Why not, faggot? Malal was grimdark as well. Chaos having a God which is about nihilism and self-destruction isn't grimdark? Sensei Knights isn't really grimdark, but they've just been placed by never ending Perpetuals.
>Squats
>gone
They've been back since 6th, how new are you?
>>47115562
>>47115567
>literal mobile tier game graphics
>fine
'no'
They've already admitted they want it to be the most 'accessible' DoW yet. So, good by any depth.
They've already admitted multiplayer is inspired by DOTA.
I could ignore all of that if it looked good, but it looks worse than the alpha screenshots of DoW2 from like 8 years ago.
>>47115570
Not really, because it implies that Chaos is working against itself. It also sounds like the usual "Atheist God" bullshit.
Sensei Knights is just such an awkward term. It's a weird Japanese phrase with the concept of the God-Emperor having kids, which is pretty dumb too. The Perpetuals are kind of shitty, but they make slightly more sense in-lore.
Never heard that the Squats were back.
Also, I think Newcrons suck.
>>47115420
There was literally no reason to go back to the fucking Circle shaped covers that do not fit in the environment at all. DoW2 cover system was fucking great
>>47115601
Tfw I'm still pre-ordering this game because i crave, nay, NEED, more Angelos in my life
>>47115601
Maybe with enough backlash by near autistic 40K fans will make then change the tone. I had no difficulty in knowing what unit was what in DOW 1 and 2
>>47115601
>admitted multiplayer is inspired by DOTA.
yes, just like the wc3 hero system was inspired by Dota.
Or the Dow2 commander system.
kill your self and stream it on /v/
>>47115497
rogue trader orks were the best.
Orks that play rock to make the boyz fire again is a great idea
>>47115601
Maybe you should go back to /v/ then when you're going to use your hyperbolic arguments to try and sound like you hold weight.
DoW was never "Complex" it was never "Hardcore" It was never a Starcraft game in the making, if you played DoW1 you'd fucking know that because the Eldar are so grossly overpowered it was hilarious.
The thing that made DoW special is it was a good game.
With fun gameplay, a decent story for warhammer that was used as a good experience that captured the essence of 40k.
DoW1 looked like fucking shit. Stop pretending otherwise.
>>47115537
However, with all things in life, you need something to act as a baseline, otherwise grimdark loses its weight. When everyone's life is absolute shit no fun allowed, that just becomes the new normal. It'd be like if you didn't have the Imperial Guard in the game and had space Marines as the default human troops. All this crazy superhuman aliens and demons would lose a lot of their cool factor because you don't have a guardsman to compare them too.
This is why comedy often has a "straight man", or a guy who is just a normal dude reacting to the crazy antics of his comrades. Without that baseline, the more fantastical and ridiculous elements lose their impact.
And done well, it makes grimdark that much more, well, grim. Take the orks for example. To them, war is life, their normal state of existence. When a Nob picks up a guardsmen and chuck's him into a sentinel so hard it explodes, he finds it hilarious. To the guardsman's squad though, it's absolutely horrifying to watch a fungus monster that dwarfs even a space marine Chuck their pal like he's a football. Then they look over and the ork is doubled over laughing, just to drive home how insane the orks are.
There's a great comic about a tallarn officer who gets captured by orks that does this. The guardsman is watching in horror as his mates are being gunned down in a valiant last stand, while in the next frame the orks who killed his friends will be cracking jokes and laughing about how Grugnuk took a missile to the face because he's a git as they wipe his remains off their shirt.
>>47115603
But chaos is working against itself. Thats kind of the meaning of the word, not to mention the gods are always backstabbing each other and fighting
Never heard of sensei knights so I'll ignore that
Squats have been back since 6th, if you don't remember the clamour when people found that in the back of the 6th Ed book you're most definitely new.
And won't argue with necrons, I'm not a big fan of them either.
>>47115664
Thank you for proving my point.
1. DoW1 and DoW2 weren't complex. At all. So making it EVEN MORE ACCESSIBLE WILL MAKE IT FACE ROLL TIER.
2. DoW1, good thing you don't know what you're talking about. I said 7 years ago. That was DoW2's release, not DoW1.
So, good job not knowing basic shit or bothering to do a 5 second Google search.
>>47115637
And WC3 and DoW2 weren't around during MOBA craze. So, the chances that is the limit is unlikely, especially when the chances are you can block people using certain things; just like in MOBA's.
>kill yourself
Insults, the last refugee of somebody with no substance to their arguments. We're done here, don't bother wasting brain cells typing a reply.
>>47115738
Yes, you keep thinking the sky is falling /v/tard, I'll enjoy my amazing Voice acting and fun experience.
I know more about DoW than you. I was here when DoW1 was released, and we got little cockmaggots like you walking into /tg/ thinking you're suddenly worth anything.
>>47115603
Malal wasn't atheist. It was literally a Chaos God forming based on the other Chaos Gods playing the Great Game.
Sensei Knights, how is it dumb that the Emperor has kids? He's a man and he's been around for 36,000 years.
The fact you didn't know Squats or back shows you're new or a tertiary fan of 40k.
Oldcrons were literally "Terminators in Space" with no personality. Want your Necrons to be that? Then do so. Don't want them to be that? Well you got the OPTION now. GW has always been about giving choice. Anybody who doesn't like choice or options is silly.
>>47115537
>I want pure misery porn. I want to see people suffer as much as possible.
So your main board is [r9k]?
>>47115787
>Old Old Necrons were Men of Iron, literally dickass Terminators
>Old Necrons had no emotions and were all slaves to the C'tan, who were Chaos lite
>Newcrons are post-science old men who managed to blow up the C'tan who are now fluffed as being gestalt supergods with little reasoning like they were supposed to be.
>>47115537
How to spot a /v/tard.
Thank fuck the Space Wolves exist to purely piss your autistic kind off.
>>47115803
Sounds more like /b/
>>47115782
At what point did I say anything about 'knowing' more about DoW. I literally said a number, you ASSUMED INCORRECTLY, FACTUALLY INCORRECT, OBJECTIVELY INCORRECT statement and then got mad I corrected you. Pathetic. Sounds like you're from /v/, not me.
But, then again, you're just like those faggots which scream "AUTISM!" or "GO BACK TO POL" when you can't come up with an argument.
And I'm not thinking the sky is falling, I just know what the video game industry is like and how shit isn't going to be like a 12 year old game just because you want it to be. It will be based on CURRENT TRENDS, DEMOGRAPHICS AND GENRES. What's popular? MOBAs.
But sure, put your head in the sand and think it's going to be brilliant, power to you, but I've read their interviews AND looked at their screenshots.
Look at this picture. Mobile game or PC exclusive?
Have fun, don't think to hard, you might have an aneurysm.
>>47114545
And when it's not trying to say "original idea, do not steal!!!"
>>47115537
Go fuck yourself carnac
>>47115782
wow, you sure seem like a cool guy
>>47115812
Newcrons can be Old Old Necrons or Old Necrons if you want them to be. That's the wonder of allowing them to have personality. Want them to be auto deathmachines? Well, the fluff outright mentions that many dynasties do just that. Want them to be moustache twirling villians? Have them be that. Want them to be Chaos lite? Do that. Want them to be bright pink and yellow robots which talk like faggots in a Eastern European discotec? Have them be that. But that doesn't work if they're always murderbots and nothing but murderbots.
>>47115537
>half-Eldar
But 95% of 40k fanfic in here is about making these?
>>47115848
>Gets mad, starts using caps and tries to deflect the argument.
You're still the one making hyperbolic arguments so stupid it hurts. I mean look at your screenshot, you can't even try to compare them unless you are still so fucking blind you won't even be playing it at all.
Just admit it /v/tard, you're trying to find everything possible to whine about this game because your pathetic self-loathing refuses to let you get any enjoyment out of anything.
I mean literally, the same arguments for every game all the time at every interval.
>C-Casuals
>G-Grafics
This could be the most perfect game in existance and you'd still be whining about refresh rates of servers.
>>47115601
>/v/ tards believe the screenshots released are that of the final game.
>>47115904
>Want them to be bright pink and yellow robots which talk like faggots in a Eastern European discotec?
I'm sorry, but this isn't the standard Necron?
>>47115932
Only when you're not looking
>>47115738
>And WC3 and DoW2 weren't around during MOBA craze. So, the chances that is the limit is unlikely, especially when the chances are you can block people using certain things; just like in MOBA's.
What does that even mean you faggot? They are keeping the same system from dow2 for the most part, only they explained it in terms of a MOBA because it is the new hotness. The first thing they say is that they are going to increase the scale and faggots like you start screaming that it is becoming a moba.
>>47115924
This is Dawn of War 2. This is the first screenshot they released (well, they did a batch). This is a 7 year old game.
Go compare it with what DoW2 looks like now. If you think DoW3 is going to look MAJORLY different, you're so fucking deluded.
>/v/
Yes, scream that instead of knowing stuff.
>>47116127
Yeah, people are going batshit for the "MOBA" part when it was pretty much what DoW2 did with the heroes
>>47116141
Dow1 and 2 looked different.
>>47115915
Surprisingly, anon, there is no way to make things italics on 4chan. Protip, caps don't always mean shouting. I was highlighting those words so you might understand this. You're autistic, aren't you? Not being rude, but not understanding common practice is a sign of autism.
>hyperbolic arguments
How is anything I said hyperbolic? I literally stated they want to make it 'accessible' and they've been inspired by parts of DOTA. Nothing hyperbolic about this. They've said it themselves.
And of course, you ignore the fact the game is mobile tier, but, not a surprise.
Have your (You) and fuck off.
>>47116175
Yes they do, DoW2 looks better. DoW3 does not look better. The texture quality is worse. A lot worse.
>>47116127
I never said it would be a MOBA, only that MOBA's are popular. Once again, reading will help. It's going to have MOBA features in it. You'll see when it's out or we get some footage.
>>47116179
>How is anything I said hyperbolic? I literally stated they want to make it 'accessible' and they've been inspired by parts of DOTA. Nothing hyperbolic about this. They've said it themselves.
and that means fucking nothing. DoW2 alienated a huge part of the casual crowd with it's adherence to micro AND non existent basebuilding and not-so-good AI.
So they brought that back in. DoW2 already has a pick a hero system to play with. A mixture of that and the CoH2 commander system for more tactical options would be great for an RTS
>>47115397
That's just the standard inability of GW to stay consistent with the fluff which is by far the biggest turn off when it comes to 40k.
>>47116219
>Yes they do, DoW2 looks better. DoW3 does not look better. The texture quality is worse. A lot worse.
Of course it looks better, half the shadows in DoW3 are not even baked in
DoW2 is called a MOBA by shit eating 'gamers' who never played and RTS, or even CoH1 because they saw
>pick a hero and stick with it.
>they level up.
If warcraft 4 was released, they would call it a MOBA.
>>47115601
> that pic
> muh ribz
>>47115904
>If you want your special snowflake necron army to be a misunderstood force for good in the universe who are totally best friends with the Emperor and also like the inspiration for the Primarchs you can totally do that!
Why even have defined fluff and factions at all if letting people do whatever they want is the best thing ever?
Newcrons suck balls.
Murdermachines rule.
>>47115637
DOTA was a mod for WC3
>>47116220
And? I don't see your point. Relic is owned by SEGA and SEGA will milk all that they can. You being hyped for it? Good for you anon. Me? I'm not going to be until I've seen exactly how it plays. Even if it does play well and is totally free of ANYTHING MOBA-esqe, then it still looks like a mobile game and the quality is not going to rapidly increase, especially when they've said 'colorful' is the art style they're going with.
>>47116235
My point is, unless those screenshots are concept art, I do not see it suddenly becoming like DoW2. Not only are the textures poor, but as I've already stated, the art style is 'colorful'. Not gritty. I suppose if enough people moan a shitty CA filter or something will be bunged onto it, but the asethtic, style and graphics are not good and I am not wowed or hyped by it. Even if they were BLOW ME AWAY AMAZING quality, I wouldn't be, as I'd know it's unlikely to remain that quality. However, rarely do games look ass and get majorly better. It's the opposite in the vast majority of games.
>>47116342
yes, its called hyperbole. CoH1 came out with the doctrine system that allowed a faction to play differently with subfactions and it was expanded upon in DoW2. Didn't stop the moba comparisons.
>>47116328
That's what I said, isn't it? The difference is, if you want your Necrons to remain murderbots. Then they can be. The fluff explicitly states many of the dynasties are, yet you choose to ignore this because they're not ALL murderbots.
>>47116349
>And? I don't see your point. Relic is owned by SEGA and SEGA will milk all that they can. You being hyped for it? Good for you anon. Me? I'm not going to be until I've seen exactly how it plays. Even if it does play well and is totally free of ANYTHING MOBA-esqe, then it still looks like a mobile game and the quality is not going to rapidly increase, especially when they've said 'colorful' is the art style they're going with.
you have already decided that it looks like a Mobile game, and it is a Moba because a shitty journalist made the comparison to a Moba. A pick/counterpick system is not the purview of mobas. CoH1 had it. No one calls it a Moba.
>>47116405
But sensei, that's what Moba do.
>>47114519
No
Tau work best when they're naively trying to be the good guys. Devolving them into Orwellian makes them a cheap knockoff of the imperium
Go fap with sandpaper if you want a bad time
>>47116429
>But sensei, that's what Moba do.
no, MOBAS have you control a single unit.
>>47116405
Yes I have decided it looks like a mobile game. The journalist didn't, the Relic developer doing the interview mentions the DOTA bit. The journalist just writes that.
It doesn't look good and I'm not going to get hyped for something I don't think looks good. Maybe if the details are made clearer, but at the moment, it's just a thing I'll check when it's out instead of following every bit of news that pops out. Done the same with TW:WH and I got pleasantly surprised by the footage I've seen. So, forgive me for being a cynical guy who's been burnt too many times.
>>47116568
Gotta agree that the graphism are mobileshit tier. But maybe the story and gameplay will be good ? Let us hope the manly manperor will grant us that and not make it a Mobafuckfest.
>>47116542
According to DoW3 leakers, who leaked the info BEFORE the trailer + articles dropped. DoW3 is the following:
>You build a base
>Each building spits out certain units at specific intervals
>These march, AI controlled, to the enemy base, which is doing the exact same
>You kill things and get XP, which you use to build more buildings and to upgrade your units
>Units can be made stronger/faster or can be made to spawn quicker or with additional abilities
>You can also spend it on upgrading the 'hero' unit you control
>There is Elite/Basic troops and 'Ultimate Units' being 'big things'
So far, we've got:
1. There is base building
2. There is heroes
3. There is Base/Elite units and 'big things'
So far that's been announced, has come true. It depends on the other bits coming true if I get it or not.
I'm not the guy you replied to either.
>>47116621
It looks like a mod on Starcraft 2 called Nexus Wars. God damn it.
>>47116621
Well, if true that'll be one hell of a departure. Though that said, I do have some very fond memories of playing Footmen Frenzy back when Warcraft III mod maps were all the rage, and this sounds like it'd work pretty much just like FF.
>>47116621
it was literally 1 guy on /v/
one single person.
I am angry at the cover system being downgraded. but relic attempting to do that would be too fucking stupid for their own good.
>>47116568
They mentioned the MOBA system because it is easier to compare it the pick counterpick system that mobas have than mention the coh2 system,
>>47116594
I hope so. If the game is good in itself, I can look past the graphics, but I won't buy it Day 1. I'll wait till it's confirmed a good game despite the graphics. So hopefully that's the case. I also hope for graphic mods, but SEGA has told us that GW doesn't want to allow mods on any of it's licensed products.
>>47115827
What? I don't actually have any problems with Space Wolves. I actually like their incarnation as the Rout (i.e. Space Vikings) in Prospero Burns better, but they're not bad in present 40K in the hands of good writers.
They're fairly impressive in The Emperor's Gift, for instance.
>>47116684
One guy yes, but the chances of there being multiple people on /v/ from Relic/SEGA is unlikely in the extreme. So, either this guy got lucky with 3/7 things, or he knows something. I've taken it with a pinch of salt, but I'm not thrilled by the possibility the guy is right.
>>47116653
Yeah, push what I said to the back of your mind though, as it's not 100% going to happen, it could simply be some faggot on /v/ got lucky with a couple of things. We'll have to wait till more info.
However, looking at it, it does seem something like SEGA would do to get it to run on tablets. Which publishers are wanting to do (Warhorse Studios explained this when they went Independent). However, it is also possible that the units aren't AI controlled, but are player controlled, but arrive the same way. It would make 'canon' sense as well....
>>47116676
Yeah, take it with a lot of salt.
>>47115420
Fuck Relic.
>>47116782
Is it some DoW 3 pic ? I find it kinda hard to tell if it isn't.
Reminder that graphics and general appearance can and often do change quite drastically throughout a development process. Fine-tuning shaders, lightning, mood, etc. is usually one of the last things you do in that department.
>>47115787
The whole point about Necrons is that even if you lost, you won. They were terrible beyond belief, and the worst part was that you never really fought the Necron armies: You fought isolated tombs or scouts, with the implication being that the true Necrons were sanity-blasting. (Sort of like the Elder Gods.)
It's that kind of ending where after somehow managing to fend off a Necron invasion, one guy turns to the other and says:
> "Fuck me, those were their *scouts*."
>>47116805
Forgot the pic.
>>47115397
>treating the Kroot and all the other alien races as100% their slaves
The Kroot have a 100% exclusivity contract that they cuck on constantly, and the Tau do nothing about. slave race, sure. The Demiurg seem to be more allies than an actual part of the Greater Good, but we have no idea for sure because mysterious dorfs. The only client race you might actually have a point with are the Vespid, and that may or may not be completely straight with the helms.
>casually sterilize human populations all the time
That was one video game end result, there have been no other instances of the Tau doing this.
>>47115601
This nigga gets it.
Every faggot that thinks DoW 3 is going places is either in fucking denial or still playing DoW 1 for various retarded reasons.
This is some starcraft color palette and its shit.
>>47116795
Its grey knight simulator 2016, and even this looks more realistic and gritty than DOW3.
>>47116817
There's no real difference there, boy.
>>47116880
Even bases look like terran buildings, not the space chapels from DOW1.
>>47116917
What the hell is that abomination ?!
Please tell me it's a joke and not DoW3
>>47116934
I wish it wasn't.
>>47116917
Point me to a Space Marine building that looks like a space chapel in DoW1.
>>47116965
Fortress Monastery, Librarian thing, barracks.
>>47116763
the three things that were confirmed were extremely easy to guess.
Have you looked at the job posting at relic? >>47116817
>Warcraft 3 had buildable walls
>they removed it.
BLIZZARD
>>47116805
>>47116817
It might do, but the first DoW2 screenshots we got ended up being cripser, but didn't have any sudden changes in art style. It didn't suddenly become MLP.
DoW3 is undeniably colourful and the devs themselves said they want it to be 'more colourful like the tabletop'. That's fine in a sense, but the images we've been given are flat. There is no depth. The textures are horrible on every single thing. The Boltguns look like laser beams, not rockets. Everything looks shiny and block colour. They look like an army painted by somebody who was skilled at painting, but didn't know about shading or blending and just did block colour.
>>47116917
Everything except the orbital thingy where you DEEP STRIKE and the Mechanicus cult thingy.
>>47116621
This sounds more and more like Demigod
>>47116917
Dunno which DoW1 you played, but in mine the SM buildings all looked like utilitarian boxes. Hell, the one in front in that screenshot is almost 1:1 the same design as the machine cult building from DoW1.
>>47116997
Yeah. Looking back at them now, it is kinda cute how they went with the general shape of a small chapel for the Barracks. I don't think that was ever really integral to their aesthetic though. Nor was it ever really emphasized. I guarantee that if I showed you the standard predator tank, you'd tell me that it doesn't fit with the Space Marine aesthetic.
>>47116917
>>47116956
>looks like Planetary Annihilation
Please stop Relic.
>>47114545
This is why Cain novels will always be top tier
>>47116379
My point is that if they're not ALL murderbots they cease to make sense as a faction. It's like claiming that Chaos Eldar should be possible because "fun lol".
No faggot, the fluff doesn't work that way, and any attempt to rewrite the fluff so it works that way is cancer.
Fuck your sense of "fun", aka. special snowflake enabling.
>>47117135
Mechanical Tyranids with more boring Chaos Gods are ass. Space Mummies are great.
Chaos Eldar exist tho.
Pictured: Gabriel Angelos and Gorgutz are saving Macha from tyranid organism.
>>47117135
Why do they? Why does it affect you? Have you thought that people didn't want them to be murderbots? That people wanted to make fluff for their stuff?
Why does it always have to be about you, anon? Why are you like this?
>>47117135
>I want the world to revolve around me: the post
another faction to put on the list of 'unreasonable entitled assholes'. then again, maybe it's just grognardism. hard to tell these days
>>47117135
Chaos Eldar are a thing, but they are only rarely seen outside of the Eye. Supposedly, the Eldar champions of Chaos are the obscene badasses who grew up on, survived and murdered their way off the Crone Worlds. The gods they follow vary, but each faction has their share of Eldar champions.
>>47117135
Jesus dude, chill out before you have a heart attack. I can smell the sweat from here.
>>47117300
>Implying the entirety of Dark Eldar aren't a de-facto (if unwitting) Slaanesh cult.
>>47117334
For all they decry and loath the forces of Chaos, they totally are.
I imagine both Slaanesh and Tzeench get a good chuckle out of the irony of that.
>>47117345
Khorne probably loves the Wyches and Incubi too.
>>47113793
You realize that 40k is where the damn term came from, and therefore is the definition, the baseline for what it is to be GRIM AND DARK
>>47117362
Probably not enough for him to forgive the rest for their unwillingness to go in for the kill immediately.
>>47117364
Relic don't seem to agree with you, faggot.
>>47117123
yes indeed.
This is also why I hated the name change of Space shark to carcharodons, it was made by some fat neckbeard that wanted to police everything.
Space sharks was cool, cheesy and a throwback to rouge trader, they should remain such way.
>>47116956
Cliffs and maps that look like they came out of Dow 2.
This isnt a good sign but I will overlook it.
>>47116917
Ok, not respecting the original design and concept of the buildings it's a completely bad move!
take SC2 for example, they didnt redo all the freaking buildinds from scratch. They didnt re-imagine the game like they did for dow 2. But the problem with relic is that instead of actually making a sequel in game they keep re-imagining things instead.
This is NOT good.
>>47117633
Are you serious? Carcharodons sounds far cool. Space Sharks is just silly.
>>47117633
Anon please, keeping them as Space Sharks is just asking for them to fly around in stormsharks wielding sharkteeth chainswords while awaiting the sharktime.
>>47117710
duhhh My space marine chapter is literally called like a shark genus.
Space sharks it's not silly, it's cheesy just like the nature of rouge trader.
Charcharodons sound like a re-name from a neckbeard.
>>47117741
Space sharks sounds cool when you have a bunch of marines that get presicion strikes and know when to kill and all.
Shark fetish comes from the space wolves having a space wolves fetish. Which DID NOT exist in rouge trader.
>>47117825
See, now you're just being as grognardy and "me, me, me" as this faggot >>47117135
Your opinions are your opinions.
>>47117178
Oldcrons were not Tyranids.
Oldcrons fulfilled my needs for Lawful Evil and brutal enslavement and conquest. Newcrons are too wacky to hit the spots that the Oldcrons did. Maybe if they tone down the clownish behaviour a bit.
>>47117866
They have all of two clownish characters.
Also. You're telling me that the guys who planned on harvesting all the life of the whole galaxy aren't just metal tyranids?
>>47117866
Necrons were changed cause their old fluff was literally "kill life, acquire biomas" except the biomass was used to make bodies to make them whole again.
Nids are the same, except they just use their biomass to make more biomass gathering things, which also act as biomass.
>>47114545
This is why I love Fallout when it's done well.
>>47117892
>Also. You're telling me that the guys who planned on harvesting all the life of the whole galaxy aren't just metal tyranids?
Read the Oldcron dex, they wanted to enslave the galaxy and rebuild the C'tan's Empire of Destruction.
When did Tyranids desire slaves and empire building? Also some Lords retained their personality and could talk.
>They have all of two clownish characters.
All of them are clowns with the exception of the Silent King and Anrakyr but they haven't been character developed yet.
>>47117978
You see above.
>>47115606
dow1 cover where craters or specific zones, these guys are just sitting within the furniture zone.
>>47118027
They wanted to harvest the galaxy. Turn it into a farm of souls essentially before just killing everyone and moving on. So Tyranids, but with more perspective.
>>47118050
>They wanted to harvest the galaxy. Turn it into a farm of souls essentially before just killing everyone and moving on.
Wrong.
They wanted to build an eternal empire of misery and grimdarkness oder where everyone are the playthings of the C'tan. The C'tan would be free to much, torture, and force the lesser races to worship them for all time.
So no, they were nothing like the Tyranids in their End Game.
>>47116621
What?! So they are making dow3 into literally a fucking moba?!
All i was asking it's to make an actual fucking sequel to dawn of war 1 gameplay. Just like Blizzard did with starcraft.
Not inventing a new fucking game!
>>47118090
munch*
I expect a huge backlash from angry fans when they show gameplay of the game. first video will be make or break for the style they are going for.
>>47118090
That's what the C'tan wanted. The Necrons themselves didn't want a damn thing, because they were basically just elaborate automatons. Hell, even 'nids had more character and autonomy at that point, what with genestealers and the like.
>>47117842
Nope, my opinions have actual facts behind them.
You are just sticking to your opinions.
The creator of 40k rick priestly named them space sharks and says they are fucking space sharks. If some fatass neckbeard wants to change the name because he doesnt like it then that's his fucking opinion.
>>47118175
Pretty much, if they keep current graphics the gameplay has to outshine the current shine.
>>47113793
That's probably why the 50k Threads (The Ship Moves) were so great. It wasn't super serious.
I mean, it also leaned more towards grimbright than grimderp, but still...
It had shit like:
>Your job is to replace a lightbulb
>It will take 50 years and you will become a saint in the process
>>47118210
>If some fatass neckbeard
Will Hayes is actually not fat and actually kind of good looking. He's like a combination of Shaggy from Scooby Doo and Peter Parker.
>>47118350
I already dislike it based on what they have said about it
>units have KEWL abilities liek OVERLOADED AMMO that trigger at random to deal MASSIVE DAMAGE
>hero units that most likely will be able to solo most units in the game
God help them If theretreat buttony still have that 90% damage reduction
>>47118177
Wrong.
Did you read the Xenology or rad the Medusa V reports? Some Oldcron Lords retained their minds and were capable of emotion and speech.
The Oldcron Lord in Xenology infiltrated the Inquisition and had a conversation with his victim.
>>47118468
Xenology is less canon than BL.
>>47118477
The reports in it are dubious.
The background story canon.
>>47118375
What's 50k?
>>47118569
some writefaggotry about the future of 40k, here:
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/The_ship_moves
>>47115601
seriously it looks fine. Looks miles better than DOW2 which looked okay and still kind of holds up today.
>>47118477
Nope.
What the anon here said is true >>47118505
>>47116621
I miss the days of DOW1, racing to relic units and just building armies. Autobuilding armies sounds like crap. Theres a reason why the Starcraft franchise was so damn popular. It's because their formula WORKS!
>>47117364
The setting describes itself as grimdark, but the reader's perception is obviously different
>>47115603
>Chaos is working against itself
Somebody get Khorne & Slaanesh in the same room & see if the results are pretty. In many ways, Chaos is inherently contradictory & against itself.
>>47115537
Half eldar haven't been canonical in like 20 years, so I don't get why people still bring them up.
They were a thing in rogue trader, back when the Eldar and Humans had common ancestry, which hasn't been the case in 40k fluff in ages.
Rogue trader had all sorts of bits that don't really fit modern 40k because back then, the setting was first taking shape, and over the years, it evolved into what it is now, losing some of the early edition weirdness along the way.
some more stuff from PC gamer
http://imgur.com/gallery/HcZDg/new
>>47118960
No, Starcraft coasts solely on brand recognition and is propped up by a dedicated fanbase that's utterly opposed to any change whatsoever. There've been several other fairly high-budget classic basebuilding RTSs in the meantime, and they all sank pretty badly.
>>47119135
That's a whole lot of nothing in regards to actual info about how the game is gonna play.
>>47119162
honestly base building is on the way out. yet no one wants to believe it.
>>47119135
>Shoulder pads may of finally gone too far
So when do we burn this writer?
>>47119638
After Relic's office.
>ITT
>>47119638
>>Shoulder pads may of finally gone too far
It's like they've never encountered 40k before. Giant shoulder pads are part of the motif.
>>47119867
>How it looks like
That's some pretty bizarre grammar.
>>47119873
They are clearly heretics
>>47116349
>These graphics suck!
>Even if they didn't suck I still wouldn't like them
>I'm a pessimistic, arrogant shit who judges the entire worth of a game by 2 interviews and the graphics of a pre-alpha screenshot
Do you even listen to yourself?
>>47119162
so? It doesnt matter. You are underestimating DOW. It also has a dedicated fanbase which is 40k players and it can also become bigger.
>>47119135
This Gabriel Angelos looks like a miniature from fucking warmachine.
They need to remake him, whoever is the art director needs a fucking scolding.
>>47120045
>so? It doesnt matter. You are underestimating DOW. It also has a dedicated fanbase which is 40k players and it can also become bigger.
What I'm saying is that Starcraft success it's independent (or even in spite) of its old style basebuilding formula. For any other game the same approach has simply not worked, and it very likely wouldn't for DoW in this day and age. Classic RTS basebuilding is a game design relic that has long since outlived its use, and good fucking riddance.
>>47120043
>These graphics aren't very good
>Even if they were good, the art style is a poor choice
There. That's my argument. You ignoring this to shitpost isn't actually helpful to anybody.
>pre-alpha screenshot
Oh, this old chestnut.
Well see this picture >>47116141 that's "pre-alpha" DoW2.
>It's pre-alpha!
>nothing changes
>it's alpha!
>nothing changes
>it's beta!
>nothing changes
>it's not gold yet!
>nothing changes
>patches will fix it!
>nothing changes
>DLC will fix it!
>nothing changes
>DLC will fix it!
>nothing changes
It's like you're new to video games or something.
>>47120119
>very likely wouldn't for DoW in this day and age.
The fact that people are still playing the original over the new one states the contrary.
Basebuilding in DOW as unique and different because you didnt had a bunch of workers digging for shit, if there isnt that then this shit wont be DOW really.
>>47117120
>>looks like Planetary Annihilation
yeah, have you seen the buildings on that game or are you just dumb ?
>>47120412
he is talking about gameplay you dumbass.
![latest[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2SpJTZh.jpg "latest[2].jpg")
>>47120045
Thats Cataphractii armour you fucking idiot, if you are going to shitpost about something at least know about what you are talking about
>>47120486
I want to post the picture of the 'hero' (assuming it's Angelos is silly) jumping in the air to slam down his hammer. But you know how the idea of a guy jumping 15ft in the air with a hammer in hand and wearing a walking tank is a bit silly.
>>47120455
Well, to be fair DoW 1 had a similar gameplay to it, you need to capture the requisition points and you can build the power nodes for some other stuff, so yeah it is similar to it
>>47120496
It totally is Gabe, who else would it be? He's even got his hammer.
And why wouldn't he be wearing an insanely rare and highly prized suit of relic armor? They're the fucking Blood Ravens.
>>47120496
>But you know how the idea of a guy jumping 15ft in the air with a hammer in hand and wearing a walking tank is a bit silly
Stranger stuff happened to this setting dude, and we all know it
>>47120549
Hairgel?
Also, DoW 3 is obviously trying to work in a lot of relatively new additions to the tabletop. Knights, cataphractii armor, Eldar Titans...
>>47120486
Omg are you really that dumbass?
Look at this and tell me he does NOT look like he is from menoth you fucking moron.
Just check their miniature range and you will find more shit. Jackass.
https://privateerpress.com/warmachine/gallery/the-protectorate-of-menoth/units
Even the details on his shoulder trims are.
If you are going to insult people and accuse them of shit, then at least make your fucking research of why they are bitching. Moron.
And yes, dig more on the menoth units and you will see more similarities.
>>47120614
>obviously trying to work in a lot of relatively new additions to the tabletop
this makes me wonder if we will centurions on this game, that would be hilarious
>>47120549
I'm more talking about the fact the guy can jump 15ft in the air.
>>47120551
True. But it just makes me think of that CS Goto meme where apparently Terminators can backflip. Of course, The Shitposter Who Should Not Be Named will just go "nuh uh that was totally when BL didn't care about fluff and now everything is canon unless I disagree with it or misinterpret it to get reactions on /tg/"
>>47120638
>Imperials: Knight Titans
>Eldar: Wraith Knights
>Orks: Deff Dreads
It's suffering being an Ork.
>>47120486
Yeah sure, nothing like pic related.
What a fucking authist you turned out to be.
>>47120678
You're the kind of guy who says Sigmarines are Space Marines cause they have big pauldrons, when it's more likely they're Paladins.
Either way, the examples you keep using are fucking angular and vertical, rather than horizontal and circular.
>>47120633
>>47120678
Yeah Im looking and the only thing they share in common is big pauldrons, the pauldrons even have different orientation its clearly Cataphractii armor which FW has been selling for years you troglodyte
![catfist1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rSjVCfn.jpg "catfist1[1].jpg")
>>47120678
>>47120633
You are really fucking dumb, look at the fucking armour design again please
>>47120726
>You're the kind of guy who says Sigmarines are Space Marines cause they have big pauldrons,
And you are the guy that cherry picks and worms it's way throught to justify "muh difference"
>cking angular and vertical, rather than horizontal and circular.
Cherrypicking this much. They have the same fucking silhuete you imbecile.
But if you want round ones then sure, let me spoonfeed you some more like the baby you are.
>>47120738
>he pauldrons even have different orientation its clearly Cataphractii armor which FW has been selling for years
Shit posting this much to the point your mouth smells like anus.
Warmachine and Menoth has been around for YEARS before FW released their shit.
They share:
Pauldrons of THE SAME FUCKING Fashion, Big ass hands when they arent fucking powerfists. At this point for you to be "Muh different" it's authist neckbeard syndrome" in which yours is differet because rather than being flat it got triangular.
>>47115637
>yes, just like the wc3 hero system was inspired by Dota.
jesus christ
Sooks will get mad but I'm hoping they're making a competitive game that's an answer to SC2 slowly dying.
I haven't had a good RTS rush in years.
>>47120859
Those shoulders dont even look close to Cataphractii retard....not even the same shape or orientation...
>>47115666
> To the guardsman's squad though, it's absolutely horrifying to watch a fungus monster that dwarfs even a space marine Chuck their pal like he's a football
I assume their pal is named Chuck, which makes this hilarious.
>>47120859
The fact you refuse to look at the actual model to justify your shitposting is quite remarkable. But not only that, but your entire argument is
>They have big pauldrons
That's it. Nothing else. I'm not cherrypicking anything, I'm telling you they're different. If you don't think so, that's fine anon. But I do not agree with you and neither do two other people.
>>47120767
Nope, the shoulderpaths of YOUR kataphrakti have different shape and longitude than the one of gabriel angelos. Which resembles more the big ass exagerated longitud of menoth. Furthermore the trims are the ones from menoth among many other features that just screams menoth. And his tabbard doesnt help.
Like I said, you are desperately cherrypicking to something that is UNDENIABLE!
And now dont even let me start with KHADOR please.
>>47120486
>if you are going to shitpost about something at least know about what you are talking about
isn't that an oxymoron?
>>47120886
Who the fuck is talking about kataphractii here you illeterate fuck? Buy some goddam glasses because you cant fucking read. I am talking about Angelos armor similarities with warmachine armor.
Anon said that Menoth didnt have round shoulder pads so I brought this to disapprove his point.
>>47120964
Angelos armour is Cataphractii dude, what the fuck are you even talking about anymore
>>47120964
We're talking about cataphractii armour because Angelos is literally wearpon cataphractii armour in that image.
>>47120901
>The fact you refuse to look at the actual model to justify your shitposting is quite remarkable
The fact that you refuse to look at THE ACTUAL models that I am posting shows your neckbeartd tunnel view AND lack of common sense.
All you do is SAY "SHITPOST shitpost" without elaborating on it.
And no my argument is not they have big pauldrons. I have explained how and why they look similar, but since you are cherrypicking it cant be helped.
You are stating the difference is what? Just showing it on a single image while I post plenty?
When you insult me it shows that you got nothing and the only thing that you can do is seek refuge on them as you got no shit.
Fucking assblasted you got.
>>47120999
They may have intended to do it kataphracti, but they failed to make it look like one. It looks more warmachine than kataphrakti.
>>47121007
>wearpon
He is supposed to be but he looks like a fucking warmachine guy. And THAT is the point of the conversation.
You moron.
>>47120323
>It's like you're new to video games or something.
so your entire argument is that some companies keep the models the same
I remember the shitters complaining that CA had made the empire so shitty because they didn't use the puffy halberds and shit during the battle of blackfire pass.
Jesus christ the autism has transcended in this thread
>>47121080
And you still have not actually pointed out any particular similarities. You just keep on posting pictures that of minis and claim they totally look alike without ever elaborating in what aspects they supposedly do so.
>>47113793
I know nothing about WH40k, what are those two circle things that all these spess marines have?
>>47121190
Service studs. They get one implanted for every 50(?) years of service.
>>47121168
>And you still have not actually pointed out any particular similarities.
I did, but you didnt see. Buy some fucking glasses.
Look at the shoulder pad trims.
Kataphrakti armor it's flat,and has shorter ends, while angelo's resembles the ones that ARENT which belong to Menoth.
Look at the robes and the over exagerated arms and gauntles, kataphrakti dont have those and their torsos are different.
For fucks sake even they share almost the same color pattern.
>>47121222
100 actually... I think.
>>47121222
Do they do anything or are they just to prove that they're badass?
>>47121234
you've made my day autismo, your shit's banaynay
>>47121267
Well, if you put them in the right place, your headbutts might hurt a little bit more.
>>47121267
just to prove they're badass
plenty of marines brand their faces or start slicing themselves up because showing how badass you are is what superhuman rituals are all inevitably going to be about
>>47121097
There is a difference between minor changes, such as halberd shapes, and complete aesthetic and art style changes.
The game looks bad, graphic quality wise. It looks like a mobile game. This is undeniable. The quality is the same.
If the game looked better, I'd be happier, but the game is overly bright and the tone does not match the trailer they showed.
Your comment about 'shitters' would be valid if I had said
>The game looks great, but the Bolters are firing like lasers, so it's 0/10 shit cause of that
Anybody else think Blood Ravens have gone full Legion of the Damned? Between the Tyranids, multiple heresies, and blatant evidence of a Greater Daemon, I don't know how the fuck they couldn't be extinct as a Chapter. Even with Adrastia's help the Inquisition would just purge the system and declare the Blood Ravens as Renegades. Even if they didn't get declared Excommunicate Traitoris their recruiting worlds have been thoroughly buttfucked and their Companies have been reduced to ruin through infighting.
>>47121366
Penitance Crusade and call it a day
>>47121366
>Even if they didn't get declared Excommunicate Traitoris their recruiting worlds have been thoroughly buttfucked and their Companies have been reduced to ruin through infighting.
If they can steal a suit of Custodes armor and fucking Forgebreaker, they can steal a few unsuspecting Marines and gene-seeds.
>>47121234
>Look at the shoulder pad trims.
They... both have trims, yes. Trims of various fashions at the edges of the shoulder pads could be found among marine armour variants since approximately forever. Angelos even had similarly styled trimmings way back in DoW2
>Look at the robes and the over exagerated arms and gauntlets, kataphrakti dont have those and their torsos are different.
He's got a shorter bevor than regular cataphractoi armour, presumably a stylistic choice so you can actually see the face. Ornate robes and shit have always been a staple of persons of import in 40k.
>For fucks sake even they share almost the same color pattern.
That's because he's a Blood Ravens guy, and black and red are their colours. Gold being an additional decoration for important dudes is a shared thing among almost all SM chapters.
>>47121366
Plenty of chapters have out right supported Chaos marines and just told to fuck off into the Eye of Terror.
>>47120633
You do realize that the Menoth aesthetic was ripped from 40k and not the other way around, right?
>>47114519
>Or have the Tau completely ignore it.
Not this shit again. Some of the most horrific shit in 40k has been Tau discovering the horror of the universe. Because that's the fucking point: they're there to give a fresh perspective on just how bad things are. It's impossible for the Tyranids or Orks or Daemons to have as much impact through an Imperial lens, because it's the billionth fucking time the Imperials have witnessed it. To the Tau, each knew encounter is a fresh hell. Just because you're too dense to comprehend that a naive race being thrown to the lions is pretty god damn grimdark doesn't mean Tau are noblebright.
>>47115827
/V/ermin are HFY retards.
>>47121501
>arguing with a guy who thinks similarities = copying
Several anons, myself not one of them, have pointed out that it's a certain armour type which has been around for awhile and that's why it looks the way it does. Apparently that's not OK. It's totally a copy and paste of Warmachine!
Because this is important.
>Looks like Warmachine
>No it doesn't, it looks like the armour it's based on with some stylised changes
>No it does look like warmachine here is several pictures of things with shoulder pads
>>47121538
Have you ever been to /v/? If you went into a 40k thread it's full of
>tfw no qt Eldar gf
>Eldar is best race
>No Tau? DROPPED
>>47115537
>Shit like Malal
Are you implying that Malal isn't just a time traveling post-death Emperor who has become a Chaos God?
>>47121452
>Trims of various fashions at the edges of the shoulder pads
But not when it comes to kataphrakti armor.
When it is placed within it then it looks like menoth and the fact that they are bigger and exaggerated than the actual kataphrakti doesnt make it any favors.
>>47121452
>presumably a stylistic
Which happens to look out of fucking warmachine.
>>47121452
>nd black and red are their colours.
Obviously, but that doesnt change the fact that it only remarks it's similarity with menoth.
You have this features that scream copy and then you put it in the same color? this is what i mean.
>>47121501
That's not a justification. Sm could be distinguished from a month guy and so forth. But the new angelos literally looks like someone from Menoth.
>>47114545
Twin Peaks.
>>47121572
>But the new angelos literally looks like someone from Menoth.
To you. Several people have disagreed and your entire argument is "they have shoulder pads and I think they do, so they do"
>>47121572
>Overusing the word literally out of insecurity in your argument.
Child its time to stop. The models youve shown have substantially bigger pauldrons that are facing a completely different direction in a completely different angle with a completely different shape, no one cares youre just being petulant at this point. Maybe you can go play your dying game with some other people on the warmachine threads....
>>47121572
>But the new angelos literally looks like someone from Menoth.
No he looks like a Chapter Master in Heresy-era Terminator Armor
>>47121548
It kinda does look like the warmachine armour more than a regular cataphractii. Cause the underplate is small (>>47120045) Making the top plate dominant like Warmachine stuff, meanwhile (>>47120486) plates are similar sized.
I know it hurts you to say that 2 things may look the same, but they do so he's got that on you.
Just saying.
Now please continue your internet dick punching contest.
>>47121565
that's most threads here, in a nutshell
>OMG WHY NO TAU IN X
>WHERE ARE THE SISTERS
>tfw no Eldar gf
>One chapter only?
>anything less than every single subfaction and race having a fully fleshed out campaign on release day?
>FUCKING DROPPED
etc, etc
>>47118991
I mean that the introduction to the 40k universe was where the fucking name grimdark came from.
So whatever 40k is, it is also grimdark. It is, in fact, the most grimdark by definition.
>>47121597
>Several people have disagreed
Because they are used to only see Kataphrakti. This comes from someone that is used to see all kinds of different shit in a daily basis.
My argument is not that they are similar because of big shoulder pads but of how the shoulder pads look like, size, shape, detail.
>>47121609
>The models youve shown have substantially bigger pauldrons that are facing a completely different direction.
Cherry picking with the "angle" and shape.
I am not being petulant, I am being objective and showing you why. All you do is just deny and cherry picking without addressing my points.
As a fact I do NOT play warmachine, I play fucking Blood Ravens and I probably are better than you at this fucking hobby. And yet I can see the fucking difference. Buy some fucking glasses old fart.
>>47121620
Maybe he was intended to look like so but the execution failed. Angelos ones are more exagerated in longitud and the gold trim only emphasizes this.
>>47118177
>The C'tan feasted upon their entire race, leaving behind only ghostly echoes of the Necrontyr. Only a few of the very strongest retained their intellect and even they were shadows of their former selves.
>Only one thing truly remained of their race, a burning hatred of the living.
>The Necrons had been vindicated in their pursuit of cold science, and had the undoubted pleasure of seeing the Old Ones' civilisation collapse. Unfortunately, it appeared that the last of their masters' cattle would be lost with it.
>>47118477
>BL is less canon than BL.
>>47121565
They also wank marines all day and night.
>>47121636
I've seen maybe 2 posts about SoB. The rest is
>No Eldar gf
>Eldar best race
>Eldar are boring
>No Eldar are great because [irrelevant fluff]
>No Necrons
>No Tau
>No Chaos (this one pops up the most)
>No Daemons (though I'd love to play as one in a single player ARPG)
>No X Space Marine chapter
>0/10 won't even pirate, but will pirate cause I'll do it despite not saying i like it, then feel self smug satisfaction if it's shit and if it's good then I didn't pay for it and can moan about irrelevant business practices as reasons why I didn't
That's everything about /v/ 40k games.
>>47121721
>Maybe he was intended to look like so but the execution failed. Angelos ones are more exagerated in longitud and the gold trim only emphasizes this.
Just looks like the work of Artificers with too much free time to me, but have it your way.
>>47121736
Here he is, right on cue.
>>47117135
You are the exact type of person why I left this hobby.
>>47121366
Obviously, what's going on is that we're following the remnants of the chapter that went with Captain Hairgel on his penitance crusade to the Eye of Terror. That's why everything seems so fucked up - it's a literally eternal battle between the three factions on some warp planet that Khorne keeps raising each day after they die.
>>47121899
I'll try not to be too offended by that, assuming you've mistaken me for who I think you have.He was already in the thread. The posts I replied to were arguing with him.
>>47122018
But the force commander is angelos
>>47122018
Well I had been thinking something similar to that, but it doesn't explain why the Eldar are in the conflict. Then again Khorne did stop Slaanesh from consuming Khaine and the Craftworld Altansar somehow survived being stuck in the Eye of Terror for thousands of years so who I guess it's not entirely outside the realm of possibility.
>>47122219
Force Commander is an ad hoc title for whoever leads multiple companies during a conflict. Angelos was formerly a Force Commander, but he is now Chapter Master so the title no longer applies.
>>47117135
>It's like claiming that Chaos Eldar should be possible
I wish we had miniatures for that... A FW army maybe?
When the fuck did /v/ leak in to /tg/?
>>47122501
Are you implying that /tg/ doesn't play videogames?
>>47122253
They look like Uthwe Eldar. Those guys are constantly skirting the Eye of Terror.
>>47122541
thats not what I meant.
What I was trying too say was when the fuck did the autism that plagues /v/ spread to /tg/
>>47122545
Seeing as Macha is back, wouldn't the main Eldar faction here be Biel-Tan? Or are Farseers not tied to specific Craftworlds? It's been a while since I read up on my Eldar fluff.
>>47122253
>Force Commander is an ad hoc title for whoever leads multiple companies during a conflict.
DoW2 made it an actual rank, beneath Captain (which is ironic, as the codex DoW took the term from used it to represent the highest tier of Space Marine hero).
Whenever it comes up outside campaign narrative stuff though, one can still assume it's generic; after all, the Force Commander in Retribution's campaign was the Captain of the Chapter Honour Guard.
>>47122545
In-game screenshots show Eldar in Green and White, and Macha is leading them, so they're probably Biel-Tan.
See, the weird thing is trying to figure out where the fuck this game takes place. The only hint we've got is this big statue with a bird's head. Maybe I'm just not well-versed in the lore but as far as I know there's not any sapient bird people. Its armor looks very vaguely Eldar-ish. If it is an Eldar-created statue then this campaign most certainly takes place within the Eye of Terror, but the absence of Chaos forces is very strange if that's case.
>>47123031
Thousand Sons?
>>47113793
>>47115546
Well that was rather well put, but I feel still 40k is overrated, storywise. Like, there's 'badass sillygooses' like madmax, and then there is 'i'm trying too hard to be edgy and you cringe as much as you chuckle'. Like for example, anything involving slaanesh or khorne.
>>47123031
IIRC eldar are avian descendents as much as we come from primates. They look humanish enough outside but they come from birds.
So the same way the chinese and indians had monkey gods for their similarity to humans, Eldar could have had eldarmorphic birds, or aviamoprhic eldars are gods or figures of legend.
But although I'd love the campaign to take place in some former eldar core world infested with chaos, i'm sure it's just thousand sons being very 'not egypt'.
>>47121518
Yes Gue'La, we are grim dark...Your payment is being sent by the water caste now
>>47123031
>>47123331
>>47123463
wait what? Where does this lore come from?
>>47123559
Think he's just massively misremembering. Some of the cooler, adventurous Eldar of glorious Commorragh can have themselves modified to be more avian (or whatever else they want to be), but there's no actual ancestry there.
On the other hand, Thousand Sons and Necrons aren't the only ones with Egyptian influences. >>47123515
>>47123887
To be fair, the Eldar also have Japanese influences, and no one's tried to make Eldar Samurai before.
The fact that the Space Marines were kneeling before that statue makes me think it might just be an Aquila. It's not like a single head is unknown.
>>47124031
Forgot pic
>>47124031
The Marines were kneeling in front of a statue of the Emperor, not in front of the Birdman statue. The Birdman statue is from a gameplay screenshot.
>>47121895
it's not my way dude. Kataphrakti Armor are two plates one beneath the other of the same size.
New artowork is not, it is a much smaller plate which is being hidden beneath the other shoulder pad and it has trim. Which screams menoth.
Also the multiple shield like plate on the arms and chestplate dont help either.
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>>47117825
It's Rogue, jesus christ.
>>47120927
>>47120964
>>47121080
How have you managed to spell it four different ways in three posts?
Dear Menothfag:
I went through the entire thread with a fine-toothed comb to be 100% sure you are full of shit.
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>>47124977
Pauldron trim and arm ornamentations aren't exactly an original invention by Warmachine. Fuck, I could pull up about 30 different WoW Paladin/Warrior armour sets that have very similar styles, doesn't mean 40k is copying Warcraft.
I've never been a graphics fag and I think I actually kinda like it.
I'll need to play it myself to be 100% sure though.
>>47113793
>grimderp and grimbright
just kys already
>>47126308
Those models on the right look way better than the space marine ones. Definitely going to have to buy some.
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>>47114669
How about the opinion that an artist can do whatever the fuck he wants with his work?
I've seen things that are dramatic with no comedy from start to finish and things that are absolutely comedic that are excellent without tonal shifts.
>>47115637
>yes, just like the wc3 hero system was inspired by Dota.
