>Question of the day:
What is Legend of the Five Rings and why does it keep kill out threads?
>What is Android: Netrunner?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAslVfZ9p-Y
>Android Netrunner Official FFG News & Spoilers:
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/tag/android-netrunner-the-card-game/
http://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/24049/netrunner-spoilers
http://www.cardgamedb.com/index.php/netrunner/android-netrunner-card-spoilers
>Floor rules
https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/66/62/66628aed-d2e3-41c3-9ea2-1caae96b104f/adn-floor-rules.pdf
>Official FAQ (post-MWL), Compendium on rulings, and common mistakes
https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/c9/e5/c9e522d2-d9f6-4053-9a80-684198c25fa5/adn_faq_v301.pdf
http://ancur.wikia.com/wiki/Project_ANCUR_Wiki
https://www.reddit.com/r/postalelf/comments/2sm1d2/welcome_to_netrunner/
>Netrunner Card List and Data Pack Details:
http://netrunnerdb.com/
http://blackat.co.uk
http://acoo.net
https://github.com/shyndman/ono-sendai (You’ll need to build it yourself)
>Deckbuilding Resources:
http://netrunnerdb.com/
http://meteor.stimhack.com/
http://acoo.net
http://www.cardgamedb.com/index.php/netrunner/android-netrunner-deck-builder (not recommended)
>Articles and Blogs:
http://teamcovenant.com/blog/category/netrunner-lcg/
http://cardgamedb.com/index.php/index.html/_/android-netrunner
http://stimhack.com/
>Podcasts
http://runlastclick.blogspot.ca/
http://canlaugh.com/nerdrunners/
http://www.northerngamingnetwork.com/tagme/
http://thewinningagenda.com/
>Videocasts:
https://www.youtube.com/user/ANRBadPublicity
https://www.youtube.com/user/ANRBlackHats
https://www.youtube.com/user/cjfm27 (Hidden Assets)
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheJacksonHoward
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ7hPuO4R15t0qAKnjFi-Iw (Metropole Grid)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPhQKKX1XHTNPO_PCQZiyUQ (Neoreading grid)
https://www.youtube.com/user/dodgepong (PeachHack)
https://www.youtube.com/user/TeamworkCast
https://www.youtube.com/user/Willingdone
>>47002499
Meme thread?
>>47002726
Guess this game really is dead...
>>47004977
Lukas killed it when he discovered he was being relieved from his position as lead designer.
>>47002491
who is this tabletop playan' fluid druid, this card shufflin' male reproductive organ gorgan, this deck teasan' spunk courtesan!?
>>47005085
Ya this final cycle of his does seem kind of like a massive "fuck you" to the competitive meta.
Even the casual meta is shit too since Jinteki.net and Dan has turned the entire community into toxic net deckers.
Why do you insist on hitting my L5R filter? I get all excited, since /tg/ rarely ever talks about it, and then it turns out that /tg/ is still not talking about it. It makes me sad.
>>47006187
Can you explain what it is to me? It killed our last 2 threads and I don't understand the hype for it.
>>47006286
L5R is an older game that used to be a CCG and RPG.
Fantasy Flight bought the entire IP from its previous owner (Completely out of the blue at a con. They literally approached their booth and told the manager their that they wanted to buy it and had the cash on hand right there.)
So now the CCG is dead (I don't care really, but some people do), and the RPG is on hiatus until they release their new LCG next year.
It's a big franchise with a lot of fans. The general gist I've gotten is that most of us are hopeful for the LCG, since FFG doesn't usually fuck those up, and apprehensive about the RPG, since they might gut its perfectly good system in favor of their special dice.
Nobody knows about where the story is going, since it was getting pretty retarded and FFG hasn't said if they're going to take it in another direction, keep going, or reboot it.
>>47006392
>Fantasy Flight bought the entire IP from its previous owner (Completely out of the blue at a con. They literally approached their booth and told the manager their that they wanted to buy it and had the cash on hand right there.)
This has to be bullshit. Companies do not work like this.
>>47006493
No, that's what happened. They started at a con table and had a deal worked out between the relevant executives within a couple days. AEG's L5R teams were suddenly tasked to other projects and FFG's team suddenly got a new game to make.
It was sudden and very strange for everyone involved. There was no warning for fans, either, just "lol, we sold it" on one side and "Hey, we own it now, new LCG next year!" on the other.
>>47006554
link to source?
>>47006581
The source that shows it was started at a con table was a couple of twitter feeds that I can't seem to find. One from a brand manager and the other from the guy who offered the deal at the start. They both basically said the same thing though.
>>47006392
>>47006554
>>47006691
This was a rumor I started when I was trolling the L5R thread after the announcement.
>>47008052
No, there was actually a twitter feed.
You are literally incapable of not lying when that trip is on and everyone knows it.
>>47008120
The fell story I came up with was they there was a meeting with CCP about the rights to World of Darkness going on at the same convention (CCP still owned them at the time). Christian got so pissed over CCP wanting so much for the then worthless WoD IP that he matched over to the AEG booth and gave them a cash offer.
100% fabricated story that gave my posts the flair they needed to get people rolling with my "insight" into the design FFG planned for the game. It was a fairly fun set of threads, many of the people from /ANG/ joined and and played along to keep it rolling.
>>47008258
Those threads were amazing
>>47011228
Thank you. Always happen when people enjoy my art.
>>47006554
>It was sudden and very strange for everyone involved. There was no warning for fans, either, just "lol, we sold it"
The great thing was that they had been hyping up a new edition for months that is now never going to happen.
L5R CCG's claim to fame was that the storyline was actively advanced by the playerbase. Like, if you won a tournament with a deck revolving around using a particular character, that character would get an upgraded version of his card in the next set to represent his promotions, that sort of thing.
For example, the Akodo Dojo was the most prestigious samurai school in the setting, and had belonged to the Lion Clan since the game came out. In one of the last tournaments, it was captured by the Crane Clan, and presumably would have changed how the Crane's military tactics went forward in the next edition.
Onyx Edition was shaping up to be the "biggest edition yet" with one of the evil factions taking over the empire. Civil wars within factions were about to break out, new pacts with gods were being forged, and all of that was being directly chosen by the player base. It was up to the Lion Clan players whether they would keep to their "right hand of the Emperor" schtick even with a new evil emperor, or whether they would rebel and serve the memory of the previous empire instead. It was going to be up to the Spider Clan whether they started acting more civilized in accordance with their new status as rulers, or whether they were going to keep all their monsters and descend the Empire into anarchy.
It was bitter and controversial and now that edition is never going to come out.
>>47011721
>
Onyx Edition was shaping up to be the "biggest edition yet" with one of the evil factions taking over the empire. Civil wars within factions were about to break out, new pacts with gods were being forged, and all of that was being directly chosen by the player base. It was up to the Lion Clan players whether they would keep to their "right hand of the Emperor" schtick even with a new evil emperor, or whether they would rebel and serve the memory of the previous empire instead. It was going to be up to the Spider Clan whether they started acting more civilized in accordance with their new status as rulers, or whether they were going to keep all their monsters and descend the Empire into anarchy
FFG already confirmed they are keeping this as the starting point for the first cycle.
>>47011765
Source? It's not a bad idea on their part, since they wouldn't want to alienate the pre-existing fanbase of the IP they acquired.
>>47011860
It was in a podcast with Damon Stone and Nate French (Tho are leading the design team as duo). Nate kind of went over their plans for the story stuff they are planning. I'd have to dig it up, it was some L5R podcast I say on the Sun and Moon facebook group.
>>47011860
That would actually be one of the worst options if they didn't want to alienate the fanbase. The fanbase almost universally despised the way they were going forward with it. Even the Spider players (The Spider being a faction that got tremendous amounts of executive babysitting) didn't want it, because it basically meant they would go back to being the generic badguys again, rather than subversive douchebags. The old horde players from back then are long gone and don't want this piddly little half-baked return of it. The other clans were all shafted hard, in game and out. The rewards for some of the last tournaments basically boiled down to choosing exactly how the Spider fucked your clan over.
A better option would be to make the core set era agnostic and then add timeline stuff in. There's a sort of status quo in the setting that would be perfect for an LCG core set, and that's basically pre-Scorpion coup + spider in their original form as infiltrators. It gets all the major factions in at something resembling their peak and none of them are wildly out of character.
>>47004977
Yeah, I quit a while ago, I just don't even like the way you have to play the game anymore. I'm just in the process of selling my collection to buy the L5R LCG when it comes out.
>>47011930
Ya the game is just unfun to play if you are playing to win at this point. All the "good" decks have near zero interaction and are just about playing solitaire and getting your combo first.
>>47004752
Nice, I didn't have 1.0
You ever think we'll see a 3.0 bioroid?
>>47012476
So what 3 clicks to break up-to 3 Subs?
World of Android worth it?
>>47012167
Wait, so is this netrunner's equivalent of combo winter?
>>47012167
True, I wonder what the parasucker and Astro of the L5R LCG will be?
>>47012704
If you want a RPG setting book with no rules system it is.
>>47012859
Yeah pretty much, one of the preferred combos is basically dragging the game out near infinitely until the runner dies
>>47012910
Yep and the only counters to it are all packed in a single faction. So it is a super tiny controlled meta of like 2 decks on each side.
Turns out Snares are good against Faust in Glacier.
:^)
What the fuck is up with the Democracy and Dogma assets? IG is going to be so damned annoying to play against.
This is what making ICE useless did to the game, welcome to asset spam. They fucked up the game with FaustPankcakes and ICE destruction and now the solution is asset spam.
I won't even be able to run on everything they put down or trash them, because it will be just tutored back up from hell. Might aswell just roll over.
/rage
I also already got Salsette Island at least, but I think not even Slums whizzard with scrubber is going to be able to keep up with this much spam.
Also no new cycle or big box announced, cause FFG is working on that damned pseudo asian fantasy shit, which has even less appeal to people who weren't born in the 80's than magic does, SO GOOD FUCKING JOB FFG THIS FUCKING META IS GOING TO LAST FOREVER
>>47018272
Damn, you're angry.
>>47018272
>implying now is not Kim's time to dominate
>>47018391
Jeeves enables such mad Operation spam (subliminal also really helps) that Kim may see some resurgence, but the builds emerging are Fast as fuck
>>47018272
Damn son, calm down
Quesion: How any ice/operations should Haarpsichord Asset Spam, Shell Game deck play?
>>47019250
*many
>>47019250
Only as many as you need.
>>47018272
>MFW Dan calls this the best Netrunner has ever been.
>>47019443
"Anyone who complains about the current Meta needs to just quit the game. There is no place for low skill losers and complainers in this game. Netrunner as better then it has ever been and only gets better with each pack. Nothing is wrong with the game, just play better!" - Dan D'Argenio
This showed up on the Netrunner Facebook group he is in the other day.
>>47021078
Fuck this community...
Can we go back to being /L5RG/ at least was interesting.
>>47021144
It's not the whole community that's like this. Not even the majority. Don't let the bad eggs spoil it for you.
Let FFGs design decisions do that.
>>47021078
He's right. Game has only been improving the more packs are out. It sucks that a card like Museum of History is out, literally stripping out the time limit factor for the Corps, making it possible to play forever.
And now we have Equality through Freedom to counter GFI shit.
Is it worth it to get into a Netrunner now as a newcomer? It seems like the community is very experienced and theres a zillion cards now. I don't know where to begin.
>>47021245
It is mostly just Lukas being an awful silver bullet fan boy. He is a bad designer that tried to cover up his inability to balance cards by just making silver bullets.
>>47021320
Not really worth doing right now. The game is going to die next year when the first 2 cycles rotate out and L5R hits at the same time.
>>47021315
>Thinking that MoH is at all the problem with the meta...
You are the people Dan is talking about who needs to leave the game.
>>47021320
The rotation of the first two cycles happens in about a year, so if you do get into it, get the deluxe boxes first.
>>47021409
That said if you want to play now you need the first two cycles since they are filled to the brim with power cards.
>>47021320
Yes, though the "try before you buy" may be stronger than ever right now.
If you want to get into the game just play a bit on Jinteki.net and see if you can stand the awful meta and toxic community.
>>47005115
Kaja from StarlitCitadel on YouTube
>>47021925
She also owns the Starlit Citadel, it is a girls only board game store.
>>47021986
>girls only
???
>>47022057
Men are banned from her store. It is a girl gamer "safe space"
>>47022120
I'm not sure I believe you from an economic point of view.
>>47022120
I am strangely ok with this. Either she get's too little business and goes bankrupt, or attracts the sort of clientele that I'd rather not meet in my own store. Either way, I benefit.
>>47021320
As a newcomer myself, I got overwhelmed by the amount of cards available too. My advice would be to first try it out within your gaming group with a single core set. Once you want a bit more options for building your decks, you can try playing on Jinteki (with your gaming group, not randoms) or proxy newer cards to try them out. Only after you're really sure of the cards you want should you purchase the expansions that they are in. Try and negotiate to share the costs with others too.
Joining a local (or online) Netrunner community may or may not be a good idea, they usually have boat loads more experience under their belt and can give good advice, but the high number of losses you experience as you try to catch up with your single core set and intaking as much info as you quickly can about new cards, strategies, deck building, etc. can be very discouraging. It can be pretty hard to tell whether you lost because you did mistakes during play, a flaw in the deck that you built, or the opponent's deck was just a bad match up to yours.
On the flip side though, core set cards are still pretty usable, so you can still give a player whose deck is compiled from cards across 6 cycles a run for their money.
>>47022191
>>47022120
Ah, here we are. Now I hate to go all internet detective on you but it only took a few minutes to grab these from their Facebook page.
>>47022346
Those are all transwomen. They identify as women so not allowing them in is a hate crime.
>>47022346
>internet detective
Though he probably is full of shit
>>47021397
I never said MoH is a problem with the meta. I complain about MoH the same way I complained at the time about GFI. Both cards breaks the two biggest assumptions in the game:
First, that you can win by scoring agendas.
Second, that you can win by letting the Corp mill himself if he doesn't score or flatline you.
The first problem unbalances the game to the Corp favour just by including the card in the deck. Suddenly there's no 20 agendas points in the deck, there's only 17. Or if you're playing a 44 deck, you have just 15.
The second problem runs deeper, letting the Corp deck go on forever which led to the situation we are in now, since they no longer have a time limit, they can just turn that clock on to the Runner and wait for him to flatline.
Both are interesting on how a game changes, but you're no longer playing the same game.
>>47022884
The Corp is not even the broken side right now.
Professor's Toolbox is the most broken deck in the game. Once rebirth comes out he will be even worse.
Dumblefork kills almost any deck it faces with zero skill.
Noise is broken as ever.
Andy rush is even good in this meta.
The problems you are talking about only stim from Runners being so broken that only one style of deck even has a chance to win Corp side.
>>47021078
I hate this guy so much, typical "That Guy".
He probably can't even enjoy playing. Always choosing the optimum moves and making everything boring.
We hear and understand your frustration with the game guys. But don't worry there will be a big announcement Monday that will change and fix most the issues you are having.
>>47024552
Haha. I don't believe you for a second.
>>47024914
If >>47024552 is real then it is likely just the new cycle announcement.
>>47025016
Hell, I'd be happy even if they just announce the release of the books.
>>47025016
That won't really fix anything.
New cards actually coming out might, but even that is unlikely.
>>47025095
Well the only other options is a updated MWL (maybe with right out bans) or a them pushing rotation up (Might happen since at this rate we won't see the 8th cycle in 2017).
>>47025195
>them pushing rotation up (Might happen since at this rate we won't see the 8th cycle in 2017)
I can maybe see that. I mean we are not even at the end of the 5th cycle and the 6th cycle won't be starting till Worlds. So come this time next year we will be maybe seeing the end of 6th cycle and maybe 7th cycle at Gencon 2017.
>>47025195
An updated MWL is the most likely thing to fix anything any time soon, or even attempt to.
OP is still a troll.
>>47025255
What changes do people think will have the most effect on a new MWL?
Tossing David on the list maybe?
I am thinking add Faust, Dav1d, Vamp, and Account Siphon to the runner side. Maybe Shock on the Corp side?
>>47025482
Vamp and AS are fine, D4V1D must go.
>>47025555
nice quads what's wrong with d4v1d?
>>47025653
It + any recursion make big ICE irrelevant. absolutely irrelevant. And it cannot be played around, because no 4 STR ICE are taxing enough for Faust.
And then you throw in the Cutlery suite...
>>47025740
Yeah, the worst strength 4 in the game for Faust is what, Ichi 1.0?
Ashigaru and lolTyrant can be worse to get through I suppose, but they don't hurt to hit and 4 isn't that long to parasite
>>47025876
Ashigaru + Himitsu Bako cane force an extra lady counter which is nice
>>47025740
The problem with cutlery events, for me at least, is that using them don't have any real repercussions for the runner. They are Anarch cards but they don't feel like it. They should deal some damage to the runner also or give tags or something. ICE destruction should be hard, derezzing easy.
>>47026007
Yeah - I get that they're meant to be used with Eater, but really there's just not a big enough downside, especially when compared to derez effect
>>47026007
I'd like it a lot more if they also prevented access and replacement effects
>>47021986
I thought she eased off on that to do her self defense/knife shit?
>>47027766
Most of the current Anarch stuff works much better if you look at is as being used with Eater in place of their other broken "breakers"
>>47012476
There's exactly one 3.0 Bioroid.
Turing.
So how's everyone enjoying the new decks?
Rin seems very powerful I hope it evens out as people learn to shift
>>47028984
I have just been playing Professor lately. My win rate if you don't count sideways bullshit is fairly good.
>>47029067
Is the professor some custom Phoenixborn? I'm only talking about officially released things here
>>47029354
I think you have the wrong thread. The is Android Netrunner.
>>47029473
Oh I thought this was a general for dead / dying LCGs
>>47029529
>Phoenixborn
Ironically Phoenixborn is way more popular at my FLGS then Netrunner is. People love that dice shit.
Are you hype? I am hype!
>>47029659
>Shitty weeaboo LCG
I'm not even lying when I say I'd rather FFG bought up Weiss Scwarz instead
>>47029755
>Weiss Scwarz
Such a trash game. It is the same fucking rule set as all the other fucking Japanese CCGs.
Also L5R is not weeaboo in anyway really...
That said I wish they picked up the old Vampire: The Eternal Struggle so they'd own more Richard Garfield games then WotC. That or the old City of Heroes CCG, that shit was baller.
>>47029919
V:TES would have been fucking rad
>>47030005
>>47029919
http://www.vekn.net/
Paradox plans to bring it back in some format it seems.
>>47029919
>That or the old City of Heroes CCG, that shit was baller.
I quite liked CoH CCG for the fact that it used intelligent card sorting for easy sealed play. Being able to just crack a pack and sit down with a friend was great.
>>47029755
>Hating on the best CCG ever made.
Sorry loser but if you shy away from one of the best games ever made out of being scared of some fantasy setting then you are a fucking sperglord.
>>47030130
I loved the power cool down mechanics they used as well. Really it was a very well designed game that just came out at about the worst time for a CCG.
>>47030143
>Best CCG ever made
>Generic fantasy with generic smash dudes together gameplay
I would have at least believed you if youd tried to say the NGE TCG, at least that was unique
>>47030143
Oh wow I never got how that province shit worked till I saw that. Game looks interesting.
>>47030191
>L5R
>Smash dudes into each other game
Well that is a sure way to tell you have never played the game.
Watch a game of it (Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfKc5ZcnDNc) and tell me that is a smash dudes into each other game.
>>47030340
that is an awful video... But I agree I tend to find L5R much deeper then games like MTG.
The way combat works leads to really interesting and complex puzzles.
>>47030542
Its not hard to be deeper than MTG though
>>47030613
True but it manages to be deeper without being a cluster-fuck like many CCGs ended up being.
I love the combat and how many options you have there. Taking a fight in a interesting an unexpected way is always fun.
Like the only real downside of the game is it tends to be unforgiving if you make mistakes. Losing your army in a bungled battle tends to just force you to forfeit.
Dan's friend posted on facebook saying that Dan is in the ER after getting in a bar fight.
I REALLY hope someone decked him for running his mouth.
>>47032159
This is the worst kind of troll post
>Dan "It's not Delivery it's" Digiorno will never get his throat slashed open by a broken bottle at a seedy bar
