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>/btg/ does a TRO:
http://builtforwar.blog(not spam)spot.com/
>How do I do this Against the Bot thing?
http://pastebin.com/pE2f7TR5
>Overview of the major factions?
http://bg.battletech.com/universe/great-houses/
http://bg.battletech.com/universe/the-clans/
http://bg.battletech.com/universe/other-powers/
>How do I find out what BattleMechs a faction has?
http://masterunitlist.info/
>Map of /btg/ players (WIP):
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1116217&add=1
>BattleTech Introductory Info and PDFs
http://bg.battletech.com/?page_id=400
>Rookie guides
http://pastebin.com/HZvGKuGx
>Sarna.net - BattleTech Wiki
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Main_Page
>Megamek - computer version of BattleTech. Play with AI or other players
http://megamek.info/
Unit Designing Softwares
>SSW Mech Designer
http://www.solarisskunkwerks.com/
>MegaMek Lab
http://megameklab.sourceforge.net/
>BattleTech IRC
#battletech on irc.rizon.net
>PDF Folders
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9q792hobnbpw3/Battletech
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/sdckg6j645z4j/Battletech
Productive and Civil Discussion Edition?
Oh, you said Dark Age. Carry on.
>>46972245
>Dat Spirit Cat force
I only have a few DA pieces left for fun games, and most are Spirit cats. Not out of choice, but because all the good shit I blindboxed were SC.
I need to get more clickwarrior stuff.
>>46972287
Whats wrong with DA? The fluff wasn't the greatest, but the game was decent, and the minis were cool as hell
>>46972405
>>46972245
>Spirit Cats
FWL PRIDE SPHERE WIDE
>>46972245
I did it, btg!
I finished my MWDA collection!
It doesn't have everything, nor even an entire army, but it does have every mini I was barely interested.
Here is the last batch, that arrived this week. It came with some faction dice too.
>>46972436
Man, don't look at me, I wanted to play Swordsword.
I regret trading my Panther... First mech I ever got, but all my Spirit cat stuff was stronger. Fucking Clan BS.
Wish they had Grey Death Legion, as thats what I usually play in Battletech.
>>46972405
He probably takes exception to how we arrived at Dark Age. It was not the cleanest move in fluff. I remember how most of the players locally reacted poorly to Devin Stone. But the game was fun and I owe most of my collection to it. Aside from the lack of scale, the minis are very fun.
>>46972543
I feel you. I was raised reading the Steiner/Davion books and Jade Falcon trillogy. There is a lot of fluff to catch up with, and the cannon is frankly monstrous, so the idea of trying to "soft reboot" was admirable, but poorly done.
At least they didnt pull a Disney Star Wars and just wipe it all.
Has anybody tried out the Mortis? It looks pretty shit on paper.
>>46972537
>thinking that's complaining
Have you kept up with the fluff? Spirit Cats are in the FWL now, as a member state.where the Nova Cats should have been all along
Assuming for a moment that the other Clans decided to integrate themselves (somewhat) peacefully into the Inner Sphere (and Smoke Jaguar hadn't been destroyed), where would each Clan likely have ended up?
>>46972631
Thanks for your input, it was very helpful to everyone involved
>>46972592
I've tried both variants. I actually think the TSEMP version is better, since it can shut something down and then swack it with an hit axe on the punch chart, then next turn go for a head shot with the base -4 to hit LVSPL and then another go with the axe or a kick. And if you don't shut something down, your LVSPL ignores most of the interference mod and the axe just does not care.
That said, they're both pretty expensive for a heavy mech that struggles to cause a PSR.
>>46972648
In the same damn invasion corridor, killing other clanners for elbow room, as they enjoy doing.
>>46972592
Da fuq?
>>46972631
God forbid we push out the filename threads and "elf slave wut do" posts.
>>46972638
Haven't kept up with fluff... What else happened since Darkage? Bullet points?
>>46972405
Jesus fuck Gropey is there a /tg/ thing you DON'T do?
>>46972488
Congrats, anon.
Currently playing a ATB campaign for mercs in the fed-com civil war era.
What's some good, cheap (definitely cheap) mechs that don't explode and die a lot that I can use to build up my company from vedette slaughtering into some proper fights?
>>46972638
I find that an odd statement to make after the scorched earth they perpetrated in the FWL during SCOUR.
>>46972762
55 ton trio 'Mechs (3050 upgrades)? Specifically ones that just swap weapons and like DHS, but with no structural changes.
>>46972762
Griffins, Lineholders, Grasshoppers, thunderbolt-7Ms
>>46972702
>Haven't kept up with fluff... What else happened since Darkage? Bullet points?
The Spirit Cats a part of a psuedo-clan in the new League known as the "Clan Enclave". They take in survivors of the now defunct Clan Nova Cat.
They also sit on the border with the new Wolf Empire (Clan Wolf moved out of their occupation zone, assisted the Lyrans in destroying one of the FWL successor states, then jumped on the Lyrans afterward, carving a swath out of both the former League and the Commonwealth. Said swath is ruled by a Khan who claims Katrina Steiner-Davion as his parentage.).
>>46972766
>implying anything after 3049 makes a lick of sense
>>46972762
Whatever you can get parts for. That's whatever troopers your home state makes or salvage you can pick up from your enemies in common quantity. Just common machines in general will do the job.
You will get something cool and it WILL die on you. Parts and supply is the most important thing as a merc. You don't have a nice cushy state unit with whole dropships of spare parts to count on.
>>46972873
It isn't like anything before 3049 makes sense too
Would you rather see the RotS destroyed or go full Terran Hegemony mode on its neighbors?
>>46972805
>>46972810
Ta, will try and get hold of a few.
>>46972896
Aye, mostly been running hunchbacks and phoenix hawks due to easy supplies for stuff. Though I did blag myself a cheap sniper artillery piece and that has definitely been worth the cbills. And I've been leaning towards energy heavy loadouts just to avoid ammo costs.
>>46973013
I feel like it just ratchets up the retard after that though
>>46973046
Full Terran Hegemony with Wolverines! backing them up to piss everyone possible.
>>46973046
We Hegemony of Blake now
>>46972860
>claims Katrina Steiner-Davion as his parentage
You mean "confirmed tubebaby of Victor and Mad Kat"
DARK AGE
>>46973046
I want them to get torn apart. The Terran Hegemony was a product of unique circumstances, and there is no way a state with 6+ enemy borders should be able to hold together in the Dark Age.
But I want to see the core worlders in the main armies again, just like they were in the WoB militia. I want to see Terrans and Martians and Caphers and New Earthers saying "Not again. Fuck your mechs, fuck your Succession Lords, and fuck your clans!"
>>46973166
I do wonder if the Blakist remnants and remaining Hidden Worlds will ever come into play with ComStar dead (again).
>>46973195
never forget
>>46973141
The retard escalation of plot starts with the 4th succession war, and then never stops amplifying.
>>46973230
CONRAD TOYAMA DID NOTHING WRONG
>>46973046
I want them to survive and beat the shit out of the other factions. I want them to go full "I TOLD YOU, BRO. I TOLD YOU TO KEEP THE PEACE ON THE FUCKING INNER SPHERE! NOW I HAVE TO NUKE THE SHIT OUT OF YOU.". It would be even better if one of the hints dropped on the books, that Devlin is related to the Blood Spirits, becomes true and that the Republic forces the Sprit de Corps on every other faction until a new Star League is born.
>>46973230
>>46973195
I'm with that guy.
>>46973299
I WARNED YOU ABOUT THE ARES CONVENTIONS BRO
I WARNED YOU
>>46973279
TUKKAYID BEST DAY OF MY LIFE
GAS THE CLANS SPACE WAR NOW
>>46973299
If the RotS weren't such a bunch of faggots, I might be behind that, as it's basically what the Blakists wanted back when shit hit the fan in 3068.
>>46972245
>>46972488
So if get some DA minis can I pop them off their clix bases, slap em on some hex bases and use them in normal BT?
>>46973046
why not both?
>>46973360
ONE BULLDOG WASN'T ENOUGH
>>46973465
The scale is different. DA minis are about 50% bigger.
I'm kind of surprised at the number of WoB fans I usually find here, but seeing how angry folks on the OF get about WoB I can see why you flock here.
>>46973549
Wobbies were popular as fuck during the Jihad years. They're the guys you love and love to hate. That was just a few years ago.
>>46973549
also the WoB is cool as fuck and removes Clan
>>46973549
/btg/ loves PURPLE BURD as a meme, but our hearts are truly with the Master. Blake vult!
>>46973465
Technically yes. The minis are usually bigger than the Battletech ones (bigger scale AND the first sets are generally even bigger). Some of the minis (Uziel, Hellion, Phoenix Hawk L...) are small and could fit on a hex, but every mini is a different matter
Other than that it is very easy to pop them up and glue them again on a hex
>>46973613
That reminds me. Did we ever find out what happened to those suicide Shadow Divisions that got sent to fuck up the homeworlds? Seems like they all got recalled in '68 and showed up back in the sphere around '72.
Would have been cool to see them actually do some damage out in the deep periphery other than taking over old Comstar outposts like Columbus.
>>46973686
>Shadow Divisions
I'm more curious about the ones that were unaccounted for at the end of the Jihad.
>>46973686
They were heading out right as the Jihad kicked off, so they turned around. That's about it.
>>46973659
What about vees, ba, vtols, and infantry?
>>46973757
It took them years to get back. They were basically at the homeworlds when they got the return signal IIRC.
I just can't think of a single raid or anything on the clan worlds.
>>46973848
IIRC they didn't make it too close, given that the Scorps ended up with a bunch of blakist shit they looted from a cache.
>>46973848
I'm pretty sure that they were not almost there when they turned around
>>46973775
BA and infantry all fit in the hex..some of the BA are almost Protomech size, so maybe you want to use them as protos.
VTOL is also okay, they have a plastic stand that fits in any hex. Make sure the hex is heavy enough to support the VTOL
Vehicles suffer from the same problems as mechs. Some are too big, some are too small. Avoid the vehicles released on the first sets and you will be fine.
>>46972648
>Smoke Jag lives
What sounds better, Draconis Jaguar or Smoke Combine?
>>46974063
>not "Snake Jaguar"
ONE JOB
>>46974063
Smoked Snakes.
>>46973299
So, a repeat of the jihad, but lamer and more masturbatory?
I'll pass
>>46973650
Blake eleison!
>>46972731
> a /tg/ thing you DON'T do?
Live a happy life. Also, Exalted. I also don't play 40k anymore.
>>46972860
>a Khan who claims Katrina Steiner-Davion as his parentage.
WHAT
THE
FUCK
>>46973230
Thats pretty fair.
>>46973534
Depends on which gen of Battletech minis. I actually like the slightly large scale, as it makes infantry and vehicles easier to scale.
>>46973549
I sympathize to a point, but they still do have a bit of nutball to them.
>>46974524
Alaric Ward claims to have been created from Katherine Steiner-Davion and Vladimir Ward's DNA.
It's actually Katherine Steiner-Davion and Victor Steiner-Davion, a fact that if it ever gets out will end his Khanship and probably his Clan, which had to be riddled with Katherine's pawns to create I'm and get him where he is while covering up his actual parentage.
>>46974524
>WHAT
>THE
>FUCK
Apparently Katrina created the now Khan of Clan Wolf and the Wolf Empire, Alaric Wolf from her own DNA and that of her brother, Victor Steiner Davion.
He's also announced his claim on the Lyran throne given his Steiner heritage (really just an attempt at pacifying Lyrans within his new territory).
Also things get even more hectic in the Dark Age, such as the Federated Suns fighting a disastrous two front affair with the Capellans and Combine (Capellan and Draconis Marches have not only fallen, but have had their capitols seized and their lords killed in one manner or another) or the Lyrans who are facing the aggression of three clans (Wolf, Jade Falcon and Hel's Horses) and giving a poor showing.
>>46974613
>>46974652
>Test tube incest baby.
Keep it classy, Katherine.
>>46974524
>WHAT
>THE
>FUCK
He's victor and katherine's incest tubebaby, man
D A R K A G E
R
K
A
E
Just bought the starter box and I love the Catapult. Any other goes fast artillery machines? I want to blow a man away from forty paces.
>>46974684
It makes the FCCW hilarious in hindsight, too, because the entire thing basically becomes kitty S-D throwing a hissy fit cause her brother won't fuck her. It's great
>>46974718
Artillery as in like the catapult's Arrow IV variant, or just solid long-range mechs?
what's the deal with the new tripfriend that doesn't know the lore? why is it here?
>>46974723
>It makes the FCCW hilarious in hindsight, too, because the entire thing basically becomes kitty S-D throwing a hissy fit cause her brother won't fuck her
So when did GRR Martin start writing Battletech?
>>46974750
Because the only people I play with are old grognards who end the lore where the books and FASA dropped it.
>>46974718
Trebuchet for mediums. Probably only the Valkyrie for lights.
Archer is as fast as the Catapult on the ground but can't jump. Same with the heavier Longbow.
>>46974750
Because he's an egotistical faggot. Just check the next arms and armor thread.
>>46974748
Either works, I really just like the sleek design and superior fire power.
>>46974750
Game is slowly getting more popular. New people tend to happen
>>46974767
Forgot a pic
>>46974750
Because he plays and knows the old lore, and has a huge collection of pics? Tripfag contributes at least.
>>46974767
>So when did GRR Martin start writing Battletech?
2001. Dark age really tried too hard to be edgy by adding a shitpile of incest, rape and various combinations of the two everydamnwhere
>>46974783
Archer is the gold standard as long-range fire support goes. Trebuchet and Griffin are both good medium takes on the concept. In later days, the Bandersnatch is an excellent direct-fire support mech, and the Apollo and Salamander are exceptional LRM throwers
>>46974792
My locals are in a time bubble. Anything after the civil war isn't widely accepted, and Jihad players are a minority. Darkage never happened.
>>46974859
Granted, I stopped reading them before the second wave, but I don't recall the MW:DA novels being that dark.
>>46974723
>tfw VSD fucked the princesses of every state except his own
Coulda made a complete set.
>>46974960
Coulda shoulda woulda. Would have saved the inner sphere one hell of a lot of trouble
>>46974941
I had that poster in my bed room as a kid.
CONTRIBUTE.
You fags are so worked up over a trip whos at least dumping pics and stimulating discussion, that you're spamming shitposts
>>46974941
My old community stopped at the clan invasion. I know your pain.
Howdy folks, does anyone have any merc units and/or NPCs that they'd like to post? I'm collecting units to use as NPC allies/quickstart forces/background color/OpFor and I was wondering if you guys could help
>>46974991
Fuck off
>>46974960
Victor did sow a lot of oats... Omi still bestgirl though.
Speaking of Omi, has anything with their son, Kitsune ever progressed? When I left the cannon, it stopped with the Combine in near meltdown over him being a Davion by blood.
>>46974988
I had the madcat blueprint poster.
>>46974991
>stopped at the clan invasion
Like, pre-invasion or during the invasion? Thats fucking rough.
>>46975162
>Speaking of Omi, has anything with their son, Kitsune ever progressed? When I left the cannon, it stopped with the Combine in near meltdown over him being a Davion by blood.
Nope, like so many other plot points, it was left hanging
>>46975162
>Kitsune
Absolutely nothing. Probably had secret kids with one of the Steiner-Marik-Davion kids, who will go on to marry that Liao chick who got Kai's mech, and boom, Star League III
>>46975183
>Nope, like so many other plot points, it was left hanging
FUCK. EVERYTHING. Jesus fucking protomech Christ.
>>46972488
Some of them look pretty damn cool son. I ought get some dark age myself.
>>46975220
>that Liao chick who got Kai's mech
You know, to the guy that was asking about this last thread. I think I figured out why Kai gave it to her. Remember what a faggot David Lear was and how much he hated his dad? No wonder Kai washed his hands of passing a mech down that line.
>>46975220
>Liao chick who got Kai's mech
Danai Liao-Centrella.
Speaking of whom, what did she have with Caleb Davion relationship wise exactly?
And does she know the Combine beat her to killing him at this point?
>>46975312
Yeah, her. Her and Caleb were getting flirty until he raped her iirc, and I would assume she knows he's dead.
>>46975312
>what did she have with Caleb Davion relationship wise exactly
She rescued him, they were kinda going somewhere and then he raped her.
>>46975230
Its a punch in the nuts.
Did you know about the cannon furries?
>>46975230
D A R K A G E
A
R
K
A
G
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Nothing exists but suffering from here on out
>>46975335
>>46975344
Whoa, wut? Caleb ended up raping her? That seems a little out of the blue.
>>46975353
>canon
>furries
I knew about the huge furfag demographic.... But they made it canon? When? how? It was retconned, right?
>>46975451
>That seems a little out of the blue
Again, DARK AGE, SON
>>46975416
>>46975462
I am suddenly picturing the opening of Game of Thrones, using the map of the Inner Sphere.
>>46975451
>That seems a little out of the blue.
Just like his imaginary friend, sociopathy, multiple rapes, etc. that nobody ever seemed to care much about.
>>46975451
Caleb Davion wasn't exactly a pillar of reasonable thought.
In fact, I believe he's implied to have killed Harrison Davion after learning that it was Julian Davion that was to be the First Prince and not him (Caleb had a crippling condition that would not allow him to pilot a battlemech. This is listed as one of the reasons why Harrison Davion chose Julian over him).
In the present day, many blame Caleb for the dire straights the Suns find themselves in, including the lost off thirteen of it's best regiments on Palmyra due to Combine orbital bombardment (though some lay the blame at the hands of Raven Alliance perfidy as well).
Caleb himself met his end at the controls of his tank after a Combine patrol on Palmyra spotted him and attempted to capture him (they were given orders to capture him alive). Rather than surrender, he kept firing at them (disabling several enemy mechs) till one lashed out in frustration and killed the First Prince.
In addition to numerous mental issues, Caleb was also apparently plagued by visions of a friend speaking to him.
>>46975451
Caleb, nearing the end of his last major plot, is completely paranoid/schizophrenic and thought that Danai was willing.
DARK AGE!
>>46975563
>>46975566
>>46975609
>multiple rapes
>sociopathy
>paranoid/schizophrenic
Wow. Holy fuck. Like I said, I didn't get too far into the Darkage books. Guess I gotta hit Amazon...
>>46975563
Don't forget the abuse of Minors.
As I recall, the Jade Falcon Khan has been abusing a minor (of 15 years) for seemingly little reason.
>>46975665
You're already aware of danai's identity as a incest-rape baby, right?
>>46975665
Basically, they needed the biggest nerf bat they could to smack the Feds with.
>>46975717
Yeah, but the clans in general are big into child molestation, so it's not especially far out
>>46975717
Clans have been pedos ever since the first clan novels. The main character of the Jade Falcon trilogy is regularly his instructors bedwarmer.
>danai's identity as a incest-rape baby
What? I thought that Naomi and Sun-Tzu were lovers, and engaged at one point? And incest?
>>46975779
Thats a nerf nuke. Holy shit.
>>46975786
Well, its not like trashcan combatants are actual people.
>>46975786
>Yeah, but the clans in general are big into child molestation, so it's not especially far out
Instructors fucking the sibkos during Warrior training is not child molestation. It's the Clans, their instructors are 24-26 years old. A 25 year old fucking a 17 year old in a society that isn't already ruined by Puritanism is hardly child molestation.
You got a source on a grown warrior fucking a 7 year old? Because that'd be child molestation.
>>46975952
>Thats a nerf nuke. Holy shit.
Otherwise they would have completely BTFO the Dracs.
Maybe not the Caps depending on how much Pull Coleman had (and remembering he was writing for the DA plot and was a company owner) but it would have been utterly implausible for the Dracs to have beat the Feddies.
>>46975952
>What? I thought that Naomi and Sun-Tzu were lovers, and engaged at one point? And incest?
Danai Liao-Centrella was, publicly, said to be the third child of Sun-Tzu Liao and Naomi Centrella.
This couldn't be further from the truth.
The truth of the matter is that Danai Liao-Centrella is the child of Daoshen Liao-Centrella and Ilsa Liao-Centrella, both of which are the biological children of Sun-Tzu and Naomi.
>>46975952
>The main character of the Jade Falcon trilogy is regularly his instructors bedwarmer.
Aidan's somewhere between 16-18 years old when that happens. Joanna's in her mid-20s. That's not even close to pedo territory. If she weren't a teacher, it wouldn't even be illegal in my country. Well, most of it, anyway, Tasmania's a bunch of fucking cunts and have a 17 year old AOC.
>>46976033
>Strayan degeneracy
It never ends
>>46975344
>She rescued him
I'm surprised a Liao was willing to put their neck on the line for a Davion.
>>46976104
Where you from that doesn't have a 15-17 year old AOC? Because basically the entire fucking first world does. Go look at the map and whine to your preacher more.
www (.) ageofconsent (.) net/ world / united-states
>>46976182
Superior faction is superior. Why so surprised?
What do people from Andurien refer to themselves as? Anduroids?
On the topic of clanners and child molestation, let's look at the facts:
>culture of "do whatever the fuck you want to the sibkos, it'll only make them tougher", which goes double for freebirths
>hardcore "might makes right, if they're weaker, do whatever you want" culture
>complete lack of sexual mores
>warrior culture, which history has shown to be invariably cesspools of pedastry
Let's face it, there's no way the clans AREN'T engaged in child molestation on a scale that would scare an afghan
>>46976384
Andunuffins
>>46976405
So, you don't have a source or a page number, then?
>all of that goes for the DC as well
>>46976384
Andureinians.
It's somewhat silly, but it's the canon answer
>>46976484
>>all of that goes for the DC as well
Oh, I'm not disagreeing. Them and likely the capellans and magistracy too are almost certainly also cesspools of chomos. The dracs maybe a little less because DISHONORABRU, but still.
>>46976405
>much logic wow
>such reasonings
Holy fuck you're a moron.
What were the original Clan mechs?
>>46976534
In what way? Like the first ones used by the clans? The earliest modern IIC designs? The first clan mechs introduced to the game?
>>46976534
The first ones we ever saw as players were the Omnis from TR: 3050.
>>46976512
>>46976405
Only a faction based on a culture that doesn't have a history of molestation of children can be free from having it happen in Battletech. Which faction is based on a molestation-free culture, again?
>>46976573
>>46976572
Yeah, the first ones to show up in the game
>>46976577
It's not a question of totally free, it's a question of where it would be most common and accepted.
>>46976384
Anduriens?
>>46974859
>>So when did GRR Martin start writing Battletech?2001. Dark age really tried too hard to be edgy by adding a shitpile of incest, rape and various combinations of the two everydamnwhere
Don't forget the "it's not a retcon if we add it in a new sourcebook and say we're fleshing things out" shenanigans that've gone on since then. Nor the edgelord faction killing that's also happened.
I'm not trying to sound salty about it, I'm just bored and/or tired of the pattern of grimderp that the setting has taken upon itself as of late.
>>46976594
From the wiki and my copy of 3050:
Fire Moth (Dasher)
Mist Lynx (Koshi)
Kit Fox (Uller)
Adder (Puma)
Viper (Dragonfly)
Ice Ferret (Fenris)
Nova (Black Hawk)
Stormcrow (Ryoken)
Mad Dog (Vulture)
Hellbringer (Loki)
Summoner (Thor)
Timber Wolf (Mad Cat)
Gargoyle (Man O' War)
Warhawk (Masakari)
Executioner (Gladiator)
Dire Wolf (Daishi)
>>46976644
>Don't forget the "it's not a retcon if we add it in a new sourcebook and say we're fleshing things out" shenanigans that've gone on since then.
And I'd finally managed to drink enough to forgot that. Goddamnit
>>46976609
Well, then, it's definitely a thing in factions based on China, Russia, Japan, Native American Nations, Britain, France, Germany, Zulus, Sudanese kingdoms, Egypt, Scandanavia, the US, India, Central America, Mexico, Spain, Oceana, the Middle East, and Australia.
Because all of those have had it both common and accepted at some point.
>>46976653
Mman, I was way off.
I thought it included:
Arctic Cheetah
Shadow Cat
Black Lanner
Cougar
Cauldron Born
Fire Falcon
Linebacker
Pouncer
Mongrel
And I forgot about the Ice Ferret, Mist Lynx, Kit Fox, and Viper.
>>46976707
Ah. You're just an idiot.
We're talking about which factions, based on their cultural characteristics AS OF THE BATTLETECH ERA would be the most chomo. Since you're either a total clanfag or some kind of chomo apologist, I'm gonna suggest you fuck off back to /b/ and don't come back
>>46976795
>Arctic Cheetah
>Shadow Cat
>Black Lanner
>Cougar
>Cauldron Born
>Fire Falcon
>Linebacker
>Pouncer
>Mongrel
I think most of those were in 3058, weren't they?
>dark age edition
>thread turns into this shit
YOU SEE WHAT YOU'VE DONE, OP?
YOU COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS
Fucks sakes guy's, let's get on a different topic.
How about this:
What is your preferred merc DropShip?
How much ASF support do you prefer for your personal units?
>>46972592
75t mech with the firepower of a 55t, whee. Also, why the hell would a RL and a MML ever coexist on the same mech? I'm thinking this thing was designed by dartboard.
>>46976908
>How much ASF support do you prefer for your personal units?
All of it. Air superiority or bust.
>>46972762
If you're going merc, the Thunderbolt is your friend. No matter what you're doing or what era you're doing it in, it can get the job done.
And BattleMasters for CO rides. Screw the Atlas, I want to get to the fight before it ends.
>>46976823
Mostly, except for the Linebacker and Pouncer which were in 3055, and the Cougar from 3060.
Though the Cauldron Born and Hankyu appeared in the Invading Clans sourcebook first.
>>46976967
>I'm thinking this thing was designed by dartboard.
Somebody post the random DA design charts
>>46976644
>I'm not trying to sound salty about it, I'm just bored and/or tired of the pattern of grimderp that the setting has taken upon itself as of late.
Dude, be as salty as you like. Im more than a little shocked that the setting went from "Gritty, realistic wartorn nations and civil strife" to full on grimdark.
Rape and incest are things that happen, yes, but there is a point where you over saturate.
>>46976679
...Im afraid to ask for examples.
>>46976908
>What is your preferred merc DropShip?
An oldie but goldie: Leopard. Cheapish, tough, and fits a whole lance.
>How much ASF support do you prefer for your personal units?
My local meta has zero aerospace happening, but I keep some medium VTOLs if the need arises.
>>46975451
>I knew about the huge furfag demographic.... But they made it canon? When? how? It was retconned, right?
According to Handbook:Major Periphery States and other recent sources, there are some 'establishments' and 'performers' in the Magistracy of Canopus who use makeup, prostheses and cybernetics to pull off the furry look for certain clients.
Apart from that? Huge mixup on the OF - details in the spoiler.Back when they were Warner Doles' BattleTech forums, a guy named Scott Malcolmson ("Calbeck") posted his fan-unit take on the Eridani Light Horse there, and it was made a featured article. Including his self-insert character, who had delusions about being an anthropomorphic unicorn, then 'disappeared' from the BT universe and appeared in another one in his desired anthro form.
When Warner's forum became the OF, the featured articles were declared 'on-line canon'. In the minds of some, this means full-blown furries like Calbeck's SI fursona were canon.
A while later, Calbeck noticed his article being used as on-line canon, bitched that his work had been 'published' without giving his receiving proper credit or payment, then used the whole misunderstanding as grounds to sue FanPro for the IP rights to the whole BT franchise on the basis of 'collaborative work'.
Calbeck's case was laughed out of the courts. He took it higher, and got laughed out again. He took it even HIGHER and was told to fuck off. He then tried to take it to the Supreme Court, who laughed at the idea of even HEARING his suit, much less ruling on it.
There's a link around here somewhere that details the whole tragic affair. I don't have it to hand, though - could some anon please deliver?
>>46976908
>What is your preferred merc DropShip?
Buccaneer for anything under two companies, mule past that, or about half the time for a smaller unit anyhow
>>How much ASF support do you prefer for your personal units?
A couple ASF in the small craft bays for escort in space, and a squadron of conventional fighters and some VTOLs for ground use
What weird - ass tech do you wish get more use?
>>46978126
ARTILLERY CANNONSNice phone autocorrect, by the way
>>46978474
Thanks bruh. But 1. I don't think artillery cannons are that weird and 2. They seem to getting a lot more use from CGL lately
>>46978126
As long as it invalidates Mechs as a viable unit, I don't have a preference. Bipedal robots have no place on the battlefield.
>>46978126
More prototype improved jumpjets, they only appear on the Super Griffin to my knowledge, and other 3039~ Helm Memory prototype stuff, and then finally HVACs.
Can anyone post the picture ot tank from btg/RO, please?
>>46978763
What do you want it for? Are you a CGL spy?
>>46978681
I want to like HVACs but they are just so determinedly, unredeemably shit.
>>46979051
I did not save it. It is the only spoiler I did not copy to hdd. I thought I had but that was obviously wrong. Good enough? :D
PS: Even if I would be a CGL spy does this change anything? It is yust a pic not the TRO
Know what never sat right with me? People doing dumb shit like putting XLs and explosives in Awesomes. The 8Q is known for being a zombie brick shithouse that puts the hurt on down range. The 10KM is a great upgrade and return to form but then you get weird kitchen sink nonsense of the 11R. Like, I would rather go back to the single heat sinks of the 8Q than use this ramshackle variant (that is admittedly FWL AS FUCK).
So /btg/, what classic mechs would you prefer to use than their technologically superior variants?
And here is a no fun allowed AWS for gits and shiggles.
>>46976869
>dark age edition
>thread becomes shit because people don't talk about dark age
>>46979646
Here is a fun dark age version of the above build.
If shields on both arms stack damage absorption on the CT then ditch a DHS and downgrade the VSPL to a normal SPL and slap a small shield on the RA too.
Now that I think about it, small shields seem like a perfect fit for the Banshee.
>>46979511
The XL's not that bad of an idea.
320 XL, 18 DHS, 15 tons of armour, 4 PPCs, 1 ML, and a Guardian ECM Suite (optional switch of one PPC to a C3 Master Computer and 2 MLs or the ML to a C3 Slave) would still have been a badass refit for the 3050s.
It's just the other random shit they add with the 4/6 movement profile that fucks the -9M up.
Get a Dark Age Marik Awesome
>>46979511
>>46980009
>Awesome variants with the designation -8Q
>No iteration of numbers, and the first one is basically a Clan LPL armed -9Q
For what purpose.
Nobody has took the bait on "realism-anon" and only one person bit on "degeneracy-anon". I'm proud of you, /btg/.
It gives me hope that we can overcome our autism together.
>>46980739
I'm still autistically pro-Terran so I'll have to deal with that.
>Terran Hegemony dies
>ComStar schisms then dies
>Word of Blake dies
Fourth times the charm! Come on, Republic of the Sphere!
>>46980618
>Look at the pleb that doesn't have a family mech handed down from generations ago
>Look at him and laugh
>>46979511
The FWL used LRMs for their Awesomes because of the PPC shortage and because it fit with their doctrine better. I remember someone doing a good post about it a long time ago but I don't have it saved
>>46980961
I don't care about the fluff those mechs are bad and should feel bad.
Could have LL boated them
>>46980961
Im quite aware of FWL doctrine and their PPC shortages. However I have to agree with >>46980975 on the issue.
I'll be that dick, who's gonna build it? intro tech LL boat Awesome.
>>46980975
There are at least two with LLs iirc
>>46981081
LLs on the LRM ones but not a pure swap I know of.
>>46980975
I've posted this before, but yeah.
>>46981079
Take out PPCs, put in 4 LL and another heat sink. Voila!
>>46981155
>>46981170
My morning is made. Thank you kindly anons.
>>46981155
>dat light show
The poor driver's going to sweat like it's habanero night.
Dark Age minis clean up nice
>>46981837
What is this camo? Hastati Sentinels?
Hey guys, got a slightly unusual design challenge here: pick a TRO, and take your best shot at designing a mech or vee that would fit seamlessly into that TRO
>>46982402
Any resemblance to actual units, living or dead, is purely coincidental
Rolled 10 (1d10)
>>46982898
Let's add a D10 roll (or just take the last digit of your post) to this:
1) 2750
2) 3039
3) 3050
4) 3055
5) 3058
6) 3060
7) 3067
8) 3075
9) 3085/Prototypes
10) 3145/3150
>>46978604
I'm more talking about their fluff
>invented in 3000
>don't see ANY use until nearly a century later
Lyrans, what the hell
>>46982402
>Hastati Sentinels
RotS has like the worst formation names in the game.
>>46983780
Never understood why they took roman soldier type names for their units. Whould have been much more plausible for Marian Hegemony any way.
>>46983686
They weren't even statted until 2008, though they were taken from the videogames like MW4. So game timeline-wise they were only around since about the Fedcom Civil War.
It was stupid to give them an intro date that early, but I guess CGL's reasoning was that people would bitch that a dumbtech solution like a sawed off artillery piece could have been discovered at any time, especially in the darkest days of the the 3rd war when people were in full scrounge mode.
>>46984335
They wanted to make the RotS like Rome under siege by the barbarians. TPTB just swept the Marians aside and stole the Roman stick from them to do it.
All back in 2002 mind you.
I don't know shit about battletech besides a few books I've read randomly, but I had a question about your guys general.
Why does it say /btg/ is dead, long live /btg/? Am I missing something?
>>46984396
You never heard "The king is dead. Long live the king." ?
What are some oddball things you guys miss about older eras?
I miss how the giant laundry list of titles of each of the Succession Lords always ended with '...and First Lord of the Star League". Really drove home the endgame for those guys.
>>46984396
Battletech is kinda this game who was big back in the day but nowadays only insane newbies and old farts still cling to it.
It's quite the setting/game though.
Fingers crossed the video game brings a revival like they did with Shadowrun.
>>46975162
>>46974941
>>46974767
My local group is 3025 intro tech only. The Madcat the intro box comes with might as well be just for show.
>>46984948
Our local group is fairly new and mostly got started on Introtech, but we've got a few people interested in the Clans, so we should be pushing towards more Invasion-era stuff and beyond once we get the local players off their asses.
Is it just me or have we actually had a lot of returning old-timers who've not been here for years lately?
>>46983780
Especially because they got them backwards. Triarii? The RotS green units.
Hastati? The RotS elite units.
They deserve to die for that alone, but their sins just mount on top of that.
>>46985161
I, for one have only gotten back into battletech this year after a good decade out. Of course, there wasn't a /btg/ back then
>>46977071
>Rape and incest are things that happen, yes, but there is a point where you over saturate.
Yeah, when you get to the point that six-plus heads of state are involved in the aforementioned shenannigans.
>>46978126
>What weird - ass tech do you wish get more use?
Vehicular Grenade projectors, DHS(P)
>>46981079
>I'll be that dick, who's gonna build it? intro tech LL boat Awesome.
Because it wouldn't be 3025 without at least ONE retarded decision..
(second, even more experimental version incoming)
>>46985500
Been out since about 2010 for me, back only a couple of months ago.
There was a mech-shaped hole in my life that needed filling, the tank-shaped one had been well plugged with microarmour.
>>46985161
I haven't been around since FM3145 came out. So a couple years. Came to see what new and crazy shit was going on.
Found a whole lotta nothing in the new plot department.
>>46978659
>>46978659
>>46985161
Battletech is that one girlfriend who's stuck in 1990, and she lives with her completely in-fucking-sane parents, but she's the best fuck of your life and you just keep finding yourself back at her house with your dick out, Iron Maiden on the radio, and a bag of popcorn on standby for the inevitable fallout.
>>46984343
I just want to see a few limited production or experimental units from 3025-era with them is all.
>>46983123
Alright, here we go.
>>46986143
>3050
Behold my 3050 Vindicator, with a Gauss and LRM-10 with one ton ammo each, XL Engine, no CASE, max armor, and the same 4/6/4 movement.
>>46978659
I agree!
Skeleton bipedal robots however, are the ultimate weapon.
>>46986060
They're basically for anti-infantry and infantry were almost nonplayers at that point in time. It's the sort of thing you'd mount on a hetzer, a carrier truck chassis or as a field gun instead of a mech.
>>46986324
>sniper cannon Hetzer
brb making one
>>46985622
Yeah. I was basically out of it for closer to 15 before I saw /btg/ and decided to give it another go; I broke contact with the metaplot and wider battletech community back in '02 because dark age, mostly. Kept on in AU land with my buddies till I moved in '05, played a bit of 3025 with grogs in the new city for a year and then kinda faded out for the next nine years. Last year, saw this thread on /tg/ (found this site from /k/ six years back) and decided to Sig my battletech out of the basement and start going again
>>46980739
here, looks like >>46985771 and >>46986234 still haven't learned who is and isn't deserving of a (you).
Of course it's bait, he threw the poles and tackle box in the water. Such minimal effort didn't deserve the satisfaction of either of your responses.
But I know you can still learn, /BTG/ I believe in you. :)
>>46986377
I was just finding an excuse to post an Atlas.
>>46985997
That metaphor is art.
Like printable, frame-able art.
>>46986324
They can also IDF and fire at hexes. They also deal AoE damage and don't require a direct hit.
Yeah, they are specialized. But in the right place, like a city, they could do a fucking lot of damage.
Imagine an LRM carrier that replaces two of its LRMs with an LTAC, and it's just parked somewhere in a city full of infantry spotters.
>>46986060
>>46986324
>>46986339
Let's do this then.
>>46986487
While this seems like a downgrade purely on damage numbers, consider that AE weapons don't roll on the Cluster Tables. So that 20 damage is measured up against an average of about 25-ish damage from the two LRM racks it's replacing.
>>46986572
>Less range and same damage as the AC/5 it replaces
Sasuga Quick Sell
>>46986617
>>46986572
This is all ignoring thermobaric ammo, which has an invention date of pre-spaceflight.
>>46986662
You can also have all of them shooting at someone if you have spotters for them in a city.
It certainly ain't a direct downgrade.
>>46986662
>targets hexes
>deals AE damage
also,
>expecting a scorpion to be good
>>46986617
It's a downgrade based on the IDF of the LRM's giving you better numbers because of the better range brackets. You'd be better off with an LRM carrier and a separate regular artillery piece for negligible extra BV.
>>46986662
Ah yes, but that AE damage is better than Pulse Bonuses sometimes.
Also, yeah, Quickscell
>>46986718
>It's a downgrade based on the IDF of the LRM's giving you better numbers because of the better range brackets
You... really don't know how good being able to target a hex is, do you.
Not to mention, the LTAC is missing all of one hex at medium and long range.
Is this current?
>Artillery Cannons use the Indirect LRM Fire rules to determine target numbers, but Artillery Cannons cannot make Indirect Artillery attacks. Missed shots scatter like standard artillery, but divide the scatter distance by one half to account for the smaller propellant charges.
>>46986694
>expecting a scorpion to be good
THIS. If it wasn't shit I would have given it a different name.
Pic related, I was going to make it a Vedette variant, but after playing it once, I decided it wasn't nearly shit enough for the name. (the MML5 with half-ton ammo bins carries it, really.)
>>46986838
Mine says they can target hexes.
>>46986856
That talks about having to fire them LoS though, not targeting hexes.
>>46986895
*I mean it doesn't say anything about targetting hexes one way or the other, but that it says you can't IDF them.
Means you can't park and hide.
>>46986838
This is a horrifically awkward way of saying that they cannot blind fire at hexes without a spotter the way Mech Mortars and full-sized Artillery can.
It does not change the AE descriptor in the weapon table.
>>46986962
Reading the TaCOps entry, seems they treat them more like fancy autocannon. Even the part about how they're used with ASF's describes them as autocannon.
>Artillery Cannons are classified as ballistic weapons, rather than artillery weapons, and may not be used to deliver Indirect Artillery attacks.
You can't IDF ballistics IRC. The AE just means how the damage is applied. But then it says to use the LRM IDF rules to determine numbers instead of just laying a flat +1 on it, so fuck if I know.
Is epic 40k or armageddon close enough in scale to BattleTech to set up mock battle scenes between the two?
>>46987655
Epic is roughly the same scale as battletech. There's also some old school big kits of battletech mechs that are regular 40K scale.
>>46987684
>There's also some old school big kits of battletech mechs that are regular 40K scale.
To expand on that, 1:48 Destroid/Dougram/Super Valk/Armored Valk and 1:72 Valkyrie, Glaug, or Ostall kits are all roughly in 40k-scale.
You can only get the Atlas, Vulture, Mad Cat, Thor, and Loki from the original Armorcast kits, and the last two are vanishingly rare. They also have an LRM-Carrier model tucked into their miscellaneous 28mm section. I think there was also an LE Legionnaire that WizKids put out in collaboration with IWM, and you can still get 28mm Elementals and infantry from them as well. You might be able to work out a bulk deal with them if you're willing to drop a lot of cash, from what I understand they're more willing to bring the old molds out if you're just gonna buy the whole casting run.
There's a pretty active, if extremely small, community of folks who play 28mm BT and crossover games in the central US. Not so much out here on the Left Coast, although I want to change that.
>>46988078
>Five "also" s
Jesus, I need to take my meds before I keep posting. Here's a 1:72 Glaug for size comparison.
>>46988078
Pretty sure the Thor and Loki are fan kits. There's a number of other fan kits in that scale as well, but in ridiculously rare numbers. The old cartoon toys and the joyride DA toys roughly work as well.
>>46988132
>Pretty sure the Thor and Loki are fan kits
I know the Thor made it to the prototype stage, this was up in their "coming soon" section for like a year before all their licensed stuff got pulled.
>>46988104
Man, I really need to strip and repaint mine. I built it when I was like 12.
>>46988165
I just know that there's fan kits for those chassis, and it seems silly for them to be redone if armorcast already did them. But then I guess there's a fan Wolverine.
>>46988104
Here's a shot of those guys running a crossover game at Little Wars in.. 2014, I think.
>>46988185
>it seems silly for them to be redone if armorcast already did them.
See "prototype", above. Even if they did make it onto the open market, they would only have been available for a couple of months. But I also know the Armorcast guys sold off their back-stock on Ebay when the license went under, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's how they got into the wild. Plus, I kinda suspect that CGL wouldn't be putting a garage kit on the cover of one of the official fiction anthologies and/or in the art retrospective (the Thor is on both, and the Loki here is clearly from the same artist as this and the Mad Cat I'm about to post)
>>46988219
>all those big mechs with hardly any infantry
If it wasn't for the large amount of terrain that makes sense in it's layout, I'd swear it's a game of 40k.#shotsfired
>>46988312
>>46988315
>If it wasn't for the large amount of terrain that makes sense in it's layout, I'd swear it's a game of 40k.
Har harr. Although let's be honest, who wants yet another 28mm infantry game when you can have your Atlas punching the fuck out of a "Peregrine"-modded 1:144 Zaku.
>>46988376
Here's a parlour game by the same guys
>>46981837
Is that a Hind on the top?
>>46988971
Lamprey.
>>46986927
It uses the normal spotting rules. Seeing as the weapon deals damage to all the units in a hex, and normal weapons fire let's you shoot at hexes, you can IDF the thing on any hex the spotters can see.
>>46980370
The only newfangled Awesome i a care about is that one with the hatchet
>>46989456
Which is just a Hind with new paint.
>>46987684
>>46988078
There's another way to look at it for "large scale" kits. If you're going by the ~9-13m canon heights for 'Mechs, for "heroic 28mm" models you're going to want something around 6-10" tall assuming that 30mm=6ft. The Armorcast Atlas is around 9.5" tall, and the Mad Cat ~8.
>>46990478
Well yeah. That's why the old Matchbox robotech 6-8" figures work for the Warhammer and stuff.
Damnit guys, now I want to recreate my favorite merc company at 28MM scale.
I can't afford this kind of want, but it's too cool not to
>>46986377
I just like that bait picture. I don't care if it's super obvious. Anyone have the "can't fish with a PPC" picture? I would have posted that but I don't have it.
Never played the tabletop but i've played all the video games except MWO and MWM
Are the Templar and Stone Rhino mechs as badass as I think they are?
>>46991745
Templar yes, Stone Rhino no.
>>46991785
what's wrong with the rhino?
Putting files together for the preview TRO release tomorrow, and I need people to give this a look and make sure the fonts work properly across a wide range of users, there're no compression issues, the PDF of stats is embedding properly, etc.
>>46991745
Disclaimer: I have played neither of these 'Mechs on the table, and I'm just judging them by their loadouts.
Templar has many solid-looking variants, most with a couple hole punchers and some backup weapons. Alt Config A looks very solid, and I looks just plain fun.
Behemoth/Stone Rhino is very good with weapons. 2 Gauss Rifles are pretty brutal, and Clan LPLs are pretty munchy. However, 3 Jump MP is kinda silly, and the Small Pulse Laser looks kinda stupid.
>>46991745
The games dont really translate all that well from the table top. Mechs like the Awesome, which is probably one of the best mechs every design by fasa is just a big fat pile of shitty hitboxes in the video games, and the Nova Cat which is a big fat undersinked slowcooker is an unstoppable pin point accurate yamato cannon with legs in the videogames
>>46991915
mech so hot
hot hot mech
mech so hot you fry a pilot
