What are some neat mythological explanations for different skin color? Myths from real cultures and madeup myths both welcome.
>>46966551
If I recall correctly, one of the previous worlds of Vedic mythology had the prior race of superhumans who populated it have blue skin.
Indian mythology and the Veda has some really fucking badass concepts.
>>46966551
The ancient Egyptian creation myth has people formed from different types of mud commonly seen along the banks of the Nile, IIRC.
>>46966551
An easy way to do it would be gifts from patron gods. So people who live in hot jungle areas could have darker skin so they could stalk in the jungle without getting spotted.
My mother had an old southern story book that explained it.
>originally everyone in the world was black
>an angel came down one day and told everyone to bathe in this magic water
>if you bathed in it then your skin would turn white and you would be closer to god or something
>Tons of people went there and bathed in the holy water
>some people were lazy and got there too late
>there wasn't really any water left for them to bathe in
>they could only get their palms the bottom of their feet in there and they become paler
>Those are modern blacks
There was more to it but that was what I remembered off the top of my head. I'm sure you could do something similar with holy water just less lazyness and what not.
the first black people were descendants of Cain after he was marked by God, hence the violent and untrustworthy tendencies
My tribe says that one of our Gods got drunk and started sloppily putting people together as the night went on
Hence why we all look different
>>46966795
Your a Mormon arent you?
>>46966551
On youtube there's some crazy niggers that believe an ancient alien called Yakub came to Earth and created white people 'just because'.
It's a bit of a cop out to go 'ancient and all powerful civilization did it for science reasons', so I would only use this as a supplemental concept.
>>46966831
Nah, my mom picked the book up at a yard sale or something, she was just weird. Used to read me revelations as a bed time story.
>>46966832
Iirc, that's what members of the Nation of Islam believe. They think blacks were the first race and Yakub was a genius scientist, I can't really remember why he wanted to create other races but he inadvertently made them all in an attempt to create whites.
>>46966875
Yep, you got it.
Pic related.
>>46966551
Originally in the setting, people could change their appearance at will, but eventually different groups became more comfortable with one general look or the other (with people nearby one another tending to share a general shape and set of features), and when their ability to shift forms was taken away, they were stuck in their chosen coloration.
>>46966875
>>46966832
NOI are basically to islam what mormons are to christianity. It's biblical cosplay with a dash of religious terminology.
>>46966795
Jeez is that racist
>>46966795
thank you anon, this is going to be used in all of my games. keep doing god's work
>>46966551
>>46966655
The Lakota believe that humans were created by the gods from various colors of clay, like a potter might make differently colored pots. The Sumerians likewise believed humans were made of clay, tho I don't think they make any comment about skin tone in their myths.
>>46966969
They're also completely fucking retarded.
>>46966984
>old southern story book
>racist
ayup
>>46966551
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamanite
>>46966984
>>46967011
I really wish I could find the name of the book or even the story but I just can't. It had some other interesting stories along similar lines that we're pretty interesting all things considered.
>>46966551
there was a passage in Ovid's metamorphisis were they talk about black skin as being a punishment from the gods. like they did something to piss off zeus so he fried them with a thunderbolt hence the black skin.
>>46967042
>Sumerians
>[Enki and Nintu (the birth-goddess) work to create man]
>We-ila [a god], who had a personality
>They slaughtered in their assembly.
>From his flesh and blood
>Nintu mixed clay.
>For the rest of the time they heard the drum,
>From the flesh of the god there was a spirit.
>It proclaimed living man as its sign,
>And so that this was not forgotten there was a spirit.
>After she had mixed that clay
>She summoned the Anunnaki, the great gods.
>The Igigi, the great gods,
>Spat upon the clay.
>Mami [Nintu] opened her mouth
>And addressed the great gods,
>'You commanded me a task, I have completed it;
>You have slaughtered a god together with his personality.'
>[snip]
>They entered the house of destiny
>Did Prince Ea [Enki] and the wise Mami
>With the birth-goddesses assembled
>He trod the clay in her presence.
>She kept reciting the incantation,
>Ea, seated before her, was prompting her.
>After she had finished her incantation
>She nipped off fourteen pieces of clay.
>Seven she put on the right
>Seven she put on the left.
>Between them she placed the brick
>She [line damaged] the cutter of the umbilical cord [line damaged]
>The wise and the learned
>Twice seven birth-goddesses had assembled,
>Seven produced males,
>Seven produced females.
>The birth-goddesses, creatress of destiny-
>They completed them in pairs.
>>46966551
Black people made from shit, Brown from sand, White from diamonds.
>The ancient /pol/ myth.
In my setting I made humans Volcano people, so they are all the colors of ash.
Black skin is the mark of Cain that all of Cain's descendants are marked with because the evil of Cain was passed down through his bloodline. This is why black people are more likely to commit crimes and kill people, they can't help it, there's a biblical precedent for them to do so, and Satan has them in his grasp
>>46966823
Best answer so far. Where you from anon?
>>46967042
That could be interesting in a fantasy setting - humans are clay, elves are trees, dwarves are stone. Humans were shaped, elves were grown, dwarves were carved.
>>46967734
Internet prince scam land
Better known as Nigeria
>>46966597
>badass concepts
Tell me more
>>46967089
Exa tly like Mormons
>>46968022
Native African beliefs run the gamut between crazy Zen and bro and full on fucking metal God hates you so murder your neighbor shit
>>46967910
What about the other animals? Shaped?
>>46968518
Animals are made from bone and shell and other basic things like that. Well made, but they'll never be more than they are - no shaping into a new form, no branching, no carving into a new shape.
>>46966551
The creation myth for humans in my setting has the ur-human being a psudeo deity that shows up on the scene from the "spaces between what the gods made" and spontaneously gives birth to the next two humans, the younger of which was tasked with quite literally planting the seeds of humanity across the world and teaching them just enough to get by before leaving them to form their own cultures unaided. The humans that sprouted from the earth bore traits indicative of other flora and fauna of their clime as they spawned, leading to different ethnicities.
TLDR: Humans are essentially elementals of the material plane.
Curse of Ham is hilarious.
>be me
>be son of Noah
>have alcoholic dad
>haven't heard from him for a while
>start to get a little worried
>go to his tent
>"Hey dad, are you okay?"
>no answer
>better check on him, be a good son
>open tent flap
>dad is passed out drunk with his dick hanging out
>suddenly blinding flash of light
>realize that my skin has turned black
>hear voice of Our Lord
>oh shi-
>all my descendants cursed because I saw my dad's dick
>>46966597
Born hindu here, this is utter bullshit.
The blue colour of some of the gods are because it is a metaphor for the depth and vastness of the divine entity given visual form, as in deep as an ocean, which is blue, or vast as the morning sky, which is also blue.
Vedas are basically a over-mythologized narrative history of the movement of Indo-Aryan tribes into the then depopulated indus valley that was turning to a desert due to the drying of the Gaggar Hakkar and the Sarswat river from receding glaciers that formed during the ice age.
In the RigVeda from 1.138 onwards it tells the story of how the leader of the Aryans, Indra with his golden skin and hair attacked the 99 forts of Vritra a Serpent of Drought that who was also a Brahmin that had apparently stolen all the water from the land, but the reality is that Indra was attacking the remains of the Indus Valley cities were surviving by storing water through elaborate dams to water their fields while the surrounding area turned to desert.
Indo Aryans thought they were causing the drought as they, a nomadic peoples, did not understand the concept of irrigation and water storage and attacked the cities and destroyed them, "freeing the waters and relieving the drought."
To an extent they then understood more the farther they travelled into central and eastern india and the vedas began to evolve and the existent social class system of the native indians were adopted as Brahmin concept existed before the Aryan migration according to the Vritra story.
But there are some striking parts of the Vedas like the story of Vishapala the woman warrior who lost a leg, was gifted a metal leg and kept fighting on, also there is the proto mahabharata which was the vedas recorded Battle of the Ten Kings and the concept of transmigration of the soul.
>>46966551
A couple of madeup ones.
>When the first of them cradled the Sparks of Hope in their hands, it charred them black.
>When those sparks turned to embers, they were joined into one Pillar of Light.
>Fed with the blood of self-sacrifice, their veins and the veins of their children were forever cast in light.
>They paint their faces according to which of those first clans they are descended from, as renewal of the oaths to Hope.
>Bee god
>Clay had been the base, but golden honey had been the glaze.
>Translucent, but ever so brilliant, these people treated themselves as works of art just as much as the structures they erected in god's name.
>Hewn from everlasting ice, the First Soul was deemed too hardened, too callous to be a whole body.
>It was instead placed within a vessel of snow, held together with the flesh and fruit of trees
uhh, I think I just made snowmen
One of the Just So stories features man painting himself pitch black for hunting purposes.
>>46969480
That's interesting, anon. Can you tell us more about how Indian mythology formed?
According to Ovid's version of the Greek myth of Phaethon, the Ethiopians are black because of an incident where Phaethon lost control of the sun-chariot and accidentally drove the sun too close to the Earth, darkening their skin (and also creating the Sahara desert).
>>46966810
This is not biblical at all. Closer to the bible (but still false) and abrahmic tradition is to consider the blacks to be descendants of Ham, who was cursed by his father Noah.
>>46969181
Tough but fair.
>>46967157
Tell them to us as best you remember.
>>46970724
I always thought it was Enu, or whaever his name was - the hairy guy who was cheated of his father's blessing.
>>46970724
it's a quasi-made up denomination myth I believe, some shit my mom told me when I was a kid, wasn't trying to play it off as real
>>46966810
That's Mormonism, and it was those who remained neutral in the debate between Jesus and his brother Lucifer.
I've got a D&D character whose skin is red because he was boiled alive by a hag as a baby.
>>46970108
>...How indian mythology formed...
>Indian mythology
GG to you anon, try to explain the most diversive culture on earth.
>>46969181
You're forgetting the part where Ham runs to his brothers and says DUDES DAD'S NAKED LMAOAnd "father's nakedness" can also be a euphemism for his own mom, as seen in the prohibitions against incest.
Everyone made out of clay. The white folk say everyone darker than them was left in the kiln too long and are burned. The black folk say everyone paler than them was taken out of the kiln too early and are half-baked. The guys in the middle take a goldilocks approach. The green fellas shut the fuck up and aren't welcome around these parts.
>>46966831
Nah. As I recall, the Mormons believe in a somewhat corrupted interpretation of the Curse of Ham/Canaan, in which Noah curses his grandson Canaan for something his son, Canaan's father, did (this is why some people know it as Curse of Ham instead of the Curse of Canaan, since it was Ham being punished, despite Canaan being the one to actually suffer the curse... because that makes perfect sense).
The curse was for Canaan and his descendants to be slaves forever, or something like that... and some assholes have decided that that means black people are the descendants of Ham and Canaan which is why it was perfectly okay to enslave them, since it was God's will the whole time. Apparently, part of this interpretation is that the curse turned Canaan and his descendants' skin black to mark them as cursed.
>>46966551
In my Rolemaster setting
The Stone-blooded men are a quasi-neanderthal race. They are short, pale and very hairy.
They believe the other races descend from traitors who couldn't take living in the mountains, hunting and doing proper human things. They gave in to the trickery of the gods, accepting a place second to the divine. They forgot about the love of the earth and looked to the sky for so long their backs to stretched and weakened. They covered themselves in dust for protection for their master's hateful heat. Still they grew hot, their skin melter like wax and accepted the dust into it marking them forever.
The Othmen descend from a proud but fallen civilisation that lived alongside the old Stone-blooded men. In the waning years it's people took to huffing mercury. Most of they died horribly, the ones that didn't muted into muscular, blue supermen. There was, however, the grim side-effect of mental weakness. They are very intelligent but prone to rage, forgetfulness, depression, paranoia and most of all megalomania.
They believe they are and always have been the best.
In ancient times there was only Othmen. They built themselves out of the blue sky while the gods watched in awe. It were fucking awesome. So awesome the gods became worried that one day their place might be taken by these beautiful blue bastards. So the gods made proxies out of dirt, wood and stone. Creatures of the earth. Automations whose sole purpose was to put the Othmen down. They made these people in all shapes and sizes and each held one strength of the true race. For milions of years the war raged on until finally their people were torn down.
But they will rise again soon! No army of divine meat robots can stop them.
>>46969181
As I recall, wasn't the "black skin" part added later as a justification for black slavery? I haven't seen an actual bible verse about being cursed with black skin, only servitude.
Also, the curse was placed on Canaan, Ham's son, not Ham himself... because apparently that's how biblical logic works.
>>46971417
Esau, the hairy nomad.
>>46972254
"A slave of slaves shall your children be." It wasn't directed at Ham at all, just his descendants
>>46971417
>>46972314
>Esau
He's ginger.
>>46972350
The quote I saw specified his fourth son, Canaan, but yeah, that was actually my point: it was Ham being punished, but the curse was directed at someone that was not Ham, which is fucking stupid in many different ways.
>>46972167
Having read the Book of Mormon a while back, I don't remember that part, but I definitely remember the part where the Native Americans were created from the lost 13th tribe of Israel who came to the Americas on a boat in the BC era, developed an amazing kingdom, but then were rent by civil war. The good Israelites fought the bad Israelites, the bad Israelites won, and as punishment for their awesome battle strategies, God cursed them with red skin.
>>46972513
Bible's full of people who pissed off God and had their children, grandchildren, children of children unto the seventh generation, etc. harmed as a result instead of them.
>>46972545
Why is getting a different skin color such a common curse? Doesn't seem that bad.
>>46972618
>Why is getting a different skin color such a common curse? Doesn't seem that bad.
Because within the culture, it's a big glowing sign above your head that says THIS GUY IS AN ASSHOLE, BE SURE TO TREAT HIM LIKE AN ASSHOLE.
dark skin caused by lots of sun
white skin by cold environment and lack of sun
Is that explanation good enough?
>>46966551
Tibetans fucked a cloud and that's why they're so pale.
>>46972545
Oh, no, the Curse of Canaan is in the regular Bible, not the Book of Mormon. It's just that Mormons follow the interpretation that basically amounts to "Black people are black because they were cursed by god to be slaves forever."
Or they did, anyway: the Mormons are trying to play nice lately, so the "official" stance is that they're fine with black people now. It's up to you whether you believe them or not.
>>46972763
Man, I'm 100% sure that the Indian stuff is in the BoM, but I don't have the patience to re-read the whole thing again...
>>46967042
Didn't Prometheus make humans out of clay in Greek myth as well? Then he tried to help his creations by giving them fire and got his liver pecked out by an eagle for his troubles.
God made man in an oven.
He was not very good at making the bread he wanted. Eventually he made lots of bread and that was that.
>>46972793
The Curse of Canaan is a completely different story from the Indian thing. I was explaining why you don't remember reading about the Curse of Canaan in the Book of Mormon: because it's not in the Book of Mormon, it's in the Bible.
>>46972930
Yeah, I know the Canaan one is in the Bible; I thought you were talking about the Indians before, but having re-read your earlier post I realize you were talking about regular Canaan in the BoM, not Indians in the BoM. Sorry for the confusion.
...Can someone else please assure me that the Indian curse is in the BoM?
>>46972972
>...Can someone else please assure me that the Indian curse is in the BoM?
According to >>46972793, the Indian curse is definitely in the Book of Mormon.
>>46973078
There's just one small problem with that.
>>46970108
It went through various phases, starting possibly in 3000 BC under the Indus valley Civilization, as a 4000 year old Pashupati Seal depicts the current hindu diety known as Shiva who is synonmous with being Pashupati, lord of the beasts and is often found sitting in the lotus position as in the seal and is often adopted by a yogi, shiva was the first yogi so it is natural for him to be found in such poses.
This leads to the possibility of the Hindu religion in its most basic form found in those times, Shiva is one of the three major gods of hinduism, they are the Trimurti, the other two are Vishnu (Protector) and Brahma (Creator), Shiva being the Destroyer. These are simple facets mind you, their role is still personified deities for the larger universal ParamAtman, the Greatest Soul or the Eternal God.
There are other lesser gods below the Three, these gods form the first set of the traditional pantheons found in ancient roman and greek paganism. Indra was analogous to Zeus/Jupiter, Varuna to Uranus/Poseidon etc., but I consider them as Indo-Aryan injections into the IVC existing faith along with various other meta-philosophical concepts and historical narrative built up around the existing and newly introduced forms of faith into the first parts of the Vedas.
>>46973127
Yeah, I know, I was just trying to fuck with you... I was expecting a more interesting reaction. You've completely ruined my whole day, I hope you're happy.
Have all creatures be oeiginate from minerals/clays/etc. Skin color would also denote the strengths/weaknesses they gain from said source.
>>46974490
Would be pretty cool for a half-crystalid race....
>>46972248
Cool, I like how the Othmen are a race of Dr. Manhattans
>>46972848
No, there's several Greek creation stories IIRC but the most prominent is that all people were basically two humans back to back until Zeus, fearing their strength, separated them, so all of your life is a quest for your "other half", yadda yadda
Prometheus is the primordial trickster who gave humans fire, for that he gets his liver pecked out by an eagle... FOREVER! because Greeks have something for eternal torment happening daily
>>46974746
>No, there's several Greek creation stories IIRC but the most prominent is that all people were basically two humans back to back until Zeus, fearing their strength, separated them, so all of your life is a quest for your "other half", yadda yadda
But that doesn't mesh at ALL with ANY of the other myths. The Titans, Gaea, etc., none of that. As far as I'm aware, the only actual Greek creation myth was the one where Prometheus created people, and that "people were made with two heads + hearts etc." stuff was just something somebody made up for clickbait. (because if they did it fucking worked)
>>46966551
In the book series the Queen's thief.
The god eugenides. God of thieves, is dark skinned because although he was a god, he was burnt from a great fire which killed his human brother. His burns healed but he was turned dark skinned from it.
>>46976050
You can read the two heads, two hearts, two bodies et cetera in Plato's Symposium, it's a well-established part of the Greek mythos.
>>46976123
Huh. My bad. Although wouldn't Plato writing it make it more of a "myth" on the level of, say, Atlantis than the whole tale of Prometheus kinda stuff? I guess when it comes down to mythologies it's all a bit fuzzy where these things end.
>>46972513
>>46972567
Many fathers would rather be harmed themselves than see their children harmed.
I'd even say most, but deadbeats are the norm where I live.
>>46974694
Sort of. They are what Dr. Manhattan would be without his godmode, in a worst case scenario.
In game they balance out to
>Bonus to everything active: Strength, quickness, intuition, presence
>Penalty to everything passive: Constitution, agility, reason, memory
Great at doing things, not so great at general living or growing.
They tend to show up as Mad Max style villains. High spoken, vaguely philosophical but ultimately self serving and unsustainable. They rally to some Warrior-Poet King, follow him fantasticaly as he cooly commits atrocities in the name progress and reason, then fall into existential apathy. They loose faith in the whole endeavour devolving into common bandits or just breaking up. Whatever revolution they set out on is sabotaged by infighting, impatience and, occasionally, over-thinking.
Sort of mix of Shitty-Manhattan, Lord Humongous and Occupy Wallstreeters.
>>46966551
Blacks were cursed for their high rates of criminality.
>>46972513
Jesus cursed a fig tree because it didn't have fruit out of season when he was hungry. Shits crazy
>>46977776
That's a parable.
You might have noticed Jesus always uses bearing fruit as a metaphor for religion doing good.
The tree is religion.
As the tree couldn't actually feed a person (it's intended purpose) it deserved to die. Ergo if the religious institution isn't actually helping anyone it deserves to just fall over and die.
One could get into semantics and whatnot but that's the basic jist of it.
>>46966875
Don't they believe the "First Race" was black males and caucasian females exclusively until the advent of White men destroyed society?
>>46977776
What is that image from?
>>46976356
Sure, but that doesn't mean that it's okay to punish an innocent for something someone else did. That's one of the ways in which the story is fucking stupid.
>>46972567
The fact that it happens often doesn't make it any less stupid.
>>46977868
>As the tree couldn't actually feed a person (it's intended purpose) it deserved to die. Ergo if the religious institution isn't actually helping anyone it deserves to just fall over and die.
But the "it was out of season" thing still fits the parable: sure, the tree wasn't doing anything to help anyone at the moment, but that's because it wasn't the moment that the tree was meant to be helping people. In the same way, religion can't help everybody with every little thing... there are times when you should turn to religion to help you, and there are times when you should just go get some food somewhere else.
Unless you're Jesus, in which case religion/figs must always be available to solve all of your problems all the time.
>>46972618
Because White colors are often associated with purity.
>White as fresh snow
>White as gentle clouds
>White as a prosperous shore
Granted, most white people are more pinkish, but they sure as hell aren't red, black, or olive.
>>46978162
Perhaps the "out of season" part is meant to say that it had served it's purpose once upon a time, but is no longer needed?
The tree was useful when it beared fruit, but once it had stopped being helpful, and people should find something else to nourish them instead of waiting for it to be useful again.
>>46978156
Oglaf.
It's a NSFW webcomic. Usually pretty funny.
>>46972045
If god was against incest, he would have personally created more than just a handful of people and animals.
>>46977868
So the banana is a parable for gay sex?
>>46966551
Tower of Babel from the bible. Humans all unite and build massive tower into heaven to show that they're equal to God. God takes note, gets pissy, and breaks the tower. Then, that morning, God forces humanity to forget it's language, then takes handfuls of people and tosses them around the world, changing their colors, because humanity will always think it's own new traits superior, they can never unite again.
>>46978559
Just like the Chaos Gods to the Primarch.
They clearly took inspiration from 40k
>>46966551
Saw something just recently with an Australia Aboriginal saying the first time he saw a white person he thought they had sat too close to a fire and their skin had peeled off.
>>46966551
ancient romans reasoned that climate was what decided human skin colour.
>>46974746
>FOREVER!
Until Herakles came along and shot it dead with his bow and freed him.
confirmed for best hero.
>>46977868
Pretty sure this same parable is used as a justification for "kill homos, god demands so"
>>46978970
GUN IS GOOD
PENIS IS BAD
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Terribly racist as it is, Lovecraft's "On The Creation of Niggers" is a pretty imaginative take:
>When, long ago, the gods created Earth
>In Jove's fair image Man was shaped at birth.
>The beasts for lesser parts were next designed;
>Yet were they too remote from humankind.
>To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man,
>Th'Olympian host conceiv'd a clever plan.
>A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure,
>Filled it with vice, and called the thing a Nigger.
>>46976181
The Symposion story is about explaining love and why sex is the best thing ever (you reunite with your other half). It also explains homosexuality (when the combined form was two male parts or two female parts instead of one each)
For a more traditional creation myth, look at the Theogony.
>>46970550
This guy is right. The heat boiled their blood and charred them black.
This >>46967181 is false.
"The God of the Sun bestows their country with more light, and the pwoe have a permanent tan as a result."
>>46978197
Then he probably shouldn't have used a plant that would be back in season at some point in the future. "Out of season" doesn't mean "will never bear fruit again", it means "it's the wrong time for this to be bearing fruit".
>>46978212
Does the Bible actually prohibit incest? I don't remember a specific passage, but it's been years (over a decade, actually) since I've actually sat down and read the Bible.
>>46978559
All I remember is God making a bunch of different groups speak different languages to keep them from working together again... was there anything about Him actually moving them or changing their skin?
>>46979006
No, one penis is good if you're the one with the penis... it's two penises together that are bad.
>>46979715
No, it obviously isn't. It might tempt you into the great sin of touching it for pleasure.
>>46979727
This is America, though, that's only bad if someone else is doing it.
Okay, so, minor revision: MY penis good, everybody ELSE'S penis bad. Except that guy I met in the truck stop the other day, his penis was pretty good too. Just don't tell my wife.
>>46966969
still got some great stuff in their mythology.
Japan has The Wheel-Within-Wheels Spaceship, and that carries bombs that tunnel down into the earth and as far as they descended a mountain of the same height emerges from the ground.
>>46972254
That particular passage was there to justify enslaving the people of canaan, however the later jubilee laws undid a lot of that and gave most of the descendents of slaves reparations and forty acres and a mule.
Notably the US slavers never did the whole jubilee thing.
>>46979643
That picture's theory of partially correct, but it's missing some information.
Skin colour didn't actually change colour for Europeans (and everyone else that's light) until agriculture started as they no longer supplemented vitamin D from meat in the same quantities to cover for the lower amount of sun exposure.
>>46979057
I still hope to hear this get used in a gangsta rap record one day.
>>46972848
>>46974746
IIRC fire symbolized reason and uplifting humanity which made it an affront to the gods. It was a little more complicated a crime than just fire.
>>46978142
All black. Pretty sure the white race was rebellious slaves or something. Been a few years since I read that shit.
>>46979921
is that whyinuit are still quite dark skinned?
>>46966551
I dont really remember which ulama that said this, but I recall that in Islam, the reason why various races exist today because Adam and by its extension, Hawa (Eve) were created from clays from all over the world, so their childrens came with varying looks to suit themselves to the environtment where those clays originated from. These children then go to populate the world, each pairs going to different directions.
>>46980247
Eh, it's an African religion.
Which means that it's three *clicks* and *snaps* away from being about cannibalism and ritual animal rape.
>>46980721
This is a modern-day created religion made wholly by black supremacists and in no way should be taken as a representative picture of other African religions.
>>46980750
Anon, my disbelief can only be suspended so much, and I allocate that precious amount it can to things more important.
Like magnets.
>>46974568
Why only half?
>Long ago, the Vodun Asili (nature) and KiMungu (supernatural) agreed to cooperate. To seal this treaty, they jointly recated new animals, who would live and die like any other, but would be able to use the divine gift of fire. Primates were chosen. Their bodies lost all hair to the scorching fire, except at the face and crotch, protected by their hands. Once they became used to fire, its secrets were shared, and through such power the creatures multiplied and spread, becoming as powerful as to shape the world instead of being shaped by it.
>>46966795
There is a similar story in the brazilian novel Macunaíma, but without the racism. In it, the hero Macunaíma and his two companions, all native indians with black skin find a lake made from the footprint of a god. Macunaíma bathes in it first and becomes white and blond. One of the others enters it too, but the water is already somewhat dirty so he becomes a red skinned indian and he splashes almost all the water out of the lake. The third one tries to bathe too, but there was too little water, so only his palms and soles turn white.
>>46980956
because then the mineral compositions would impact more than just skin tone.
and I barely qualify as a rock collector, let alone geologist PLUS fantasy writer
>>46977776
>God's holy book is LO
Many blue-skinned peoples exist in Glorantha, because not everyone with blue skin is closely related. Blue is the color of the Water element, and people who have blue skin are usually those who are descendants of the ancient Water Deities. Being blue shows that these people have more water in their physical makeup than all of the other elements combined. (All beings made from the Man Rune are composed of multiple elements). However, since they’re just mortal races they all manifest different aspects of the “watery blue power,” so they are quite different peoples.
The Blue People of Peloria are the simplest to explain. They are the collective water entities which attempted to reclaim the earth after Yelm died. Their invasion is part of the Great Flood which is noted in many Genertelan mythologies. Some of those beings were humans, being “water humans” in the way that uz are “darkness humans.” They were defeated by Bisos and others, and the blue human beings were driven out, away, or down under the waters of the Sweet Sea and Lake Oronin, where their other blue kin live. Castle Blue is a remnant of these beings, whose last blue skinned humans were killed by the Red Goddess.
The Veldang of Pamaltela are another part of that invasion. They are descendants of the ancient Artmali. Artmal called his mother Vendara, who was one of several Blue Moon goddesses. She rose after Yelm died and was very prominent when Artmal and his people descended by boat from the moon to during the watery part of the early Storm Age. The Artmali settled first in south Pamaltela and eventually covered much of the southern hemisquare, with colonies around the base of the Spike. Their “blue powers” were less associated with water than with the related powers of fluidity and growth. They were ruined by the Storm Age, and when their gods died their civilization collapsed. Pamalt’s peoples gained the upper hand and the Artmali were separated into groups with their varying fates.
>>46982673
The Loper Folk (named after their riding beasts) are originally of this race, and travelled to Genertela before the Spike exploded. (Lopers are extinct in Pamaltela now, rare in Genertela).
Waertagi are creatures of the sea, as seen by their color and close relation to the denizens of the deep. (They didn’t have to fight those mile-long sea dragons whose bodies they live in!) They are descendants of **. They come in two colors, green or blue, depending upon the measure of the earth and water in their bodies. Most are a mixture, not distinctly either color. Rare individuals are known — they’re hard to miss when you see them.
Blue Vadeli are one social class of the Vadeli race. The Vadeli of the Storm Age were incredibly powerful sorcerers who performed several terrible actions in their efforts to take over the world. (Brithos is fortunate that the Vadeli fought each other as much as outsiders.) Some of them essentially fused their beings with the parts of the world so that they could exploit them more easily. After Zzabur sank their land the Vadeli survivors sorted themselves out to their current social order. The blue Vadeli had some boats. The blueness of these Vadeli is a cyanotic blue, like a corpse.
>>46972254
Well the divine curses fond in the various books of the bible point to an idea of communal guilt, wherein you inherit the guilt and triumphs of your ancestors.
This idea isn't just unique to Judeo-Christianity, as most cultures around the world have (in fact many still do) an idea of familial collectivity. The idea of the individual being the sole agent of their own fate is a remarkable recent invention in the grand scheme of things. And from how the world tends to work, I'm not sure it will last very long as a dominant ideology.
Still back to biblical version of this, it's also important to point out that because of Adam and Eve's first sins, their family (ie the entire human race) share a collective guilt.
This idea of collective familial guilt, along with the Evolian idea of the heroic ancestor can work as a jumping point for race building in world creation.
>>46972513
Actually that makes a lot of sense when you think about it. It's a form of punishment that creates consequences of once a poor choice that affect more than just their individual self.
Furthermore it still punishes the individual man by primarily targeting his legacy. In a non-postmodern society, ones family and legacy is an extension of themselves. Unlike our hyperindividualist culture, other humans understand that each individual is irrevocably initiated into their past and future generations
>>46982843
>collective familial guilt
The reason why so many North Koreans are born and live their entire lives in prison camps.
>>46982961
Exactly, but that's a more Brutish example of this.
In other cultures you also share in the triumphs of your family. Just take a look at the Roman familii, whose standing was based on the prestige of primarily their heroic ancestor (founder) and the successes of those who came after. The same idea is also mirrored in the Chinese ideal of Dynasties and the Mandate of Heaven.
>>46966795
That's super fucking racist...but doesn't explain Asians, Native Americans, or Hispanics
>>46979702
>Does the Bible actually prohibit incest?
Not if your daughters get you drunk first.
>tfw Westerners try to be all "holy shit Indian mythology's so badass IT HAD NUKES N' SHIT WOAH."
>>46972254
Not entirely sure why they would have bothered to alter the bible just for that considering A- Black People Weren't Allowed to be Literate, and B- Nobody reads the bible for real anyways especially not god fearing Confederates who got no business knowing more than they ought so everyone just believed whatever the racist preachers said to keep shit in line.
>>46985112
To be fair, the only difference between Chuuni fan fiction and Myth that's respected is how much dust is on the paper.
>>46979702
It tries to...by pretending the logical fallacy of only having two people to start would mean incest...not that it matters since Noah was a big reset button and his children's spouses weren't direct relatives.
>>46978970
To be fair, every line of the bible is used as justification that way.
Like just pick a random psalm or something than then play seven degrees of kevin bacon, and all of a sudden you're a TV evangelist on pre-paid programming.
>>46984985
>..but doesn't explain Asians, Native Americans, or Hispanics
Those ethnicities are considered nonwhite as well, basically lighter shades of nigger.
>>46985310
The other problem is that is intentional in a lot of the stories.
You're supposed to know a tree by its fruit; so not good fruit, not good tree.
But you're also supposed to analyze his response; He did not intend to destroy the tree with a curse; The fig may yet have been a good tree.
On topic, I personally like the idea of the Dwarven nation's skin coming from the stone they were born from.
>>46966551
According to Norse mythology the fire giant Surtur lives in the south
and the people there have black skin because they are burned inside his volcanoes.
>>46967910
And orcs?
>>46986191
Pulled themselves up out of the leavings of the others by their own bootstraps.
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>>46978162
I think the tree was also really old too and you've gotta remember that Jesus has a magic voice. If he asks a tree to make him some fruit and it's unable to do so when asked by a reality warper that can bring back the dead via telling them to grab their stuff and go home then it really is a useless tree.
>>46985847
Odd. considering that his domain, Muspeilheim, is not in the same world as midgard.
Creation myth of one of the Filipino peoples
>God forms human-shaped clay statues, then bakes them into real people in his furnace.
>Leaves them in too long and they come out burnt, making black people.
>He makes another batch, but because he is worried they'll come out burnt again he takes them out too early, making white people.
>He makes more batches, some coming out a bit too dark, some coming out a bit too pale, making everyone else.
>Eventually he perfects the process and makes a golden-brown race of people, the Filipinos.
>>46988885
There's a whole lot of clay molding myths going around apparently.
>>46989206
It was one of the first ways we made semi-permanent objects. Hard to argue humans are made by stone-knapping when we have the pesky tendency to die.
>>46967264
I thought it was more like
>White people are made from snow, so they burn and die under the sun
>Brown is made from sand and they get into everything and get all in your house and can never be removed
>Black is made from fertile soil and reproduces the most
>Red is made from clay and is really good at growing plants and tomatoes
>>46985178
Nah, westerner indiaboos and americans with "indian heritage" trying to be cool are just ridiculous and worst than weaboos.
>>46976123
China has a lot of human creation stories too
But wasn't there one about how the Han were the only actual humans formed by gods, while everyone else in the world are various animals that began to imitate the human shape (the divine shape) and made the other types of people?
>>46985132
I mean it was added to the story, not to the Bible. Exactly how you put it: preachers and people telling the story added the part about black skin, despite it not actually being in the Bible. I couldn't find any passage in the bible about the skin tone of Canaan or his children being changed.
>>46988019
Except the Bible specifically says that the reason the tree bore no fruit is because it was out of season. And how does Jesus not being powerful enough to make a tree bear fruit out of season mean the tree is useless? If the tree simply no longer had the ability to bear fruit at all, why not just say that instead of saying it was out of season?
