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>>46881740
They're basically the same thing.
>>46881788
The other one lacks the IRC link for some reason.
>>46881788
The OP one is outdated and lacks information. Like >>46881797
Got an idea for a CYOA, a Royal Guardian remake but in the cyberpunk world. Bodyguard is enforcer/assasin, Captain of the Guard is head of security etc. and instead of kings there are CEOs, gang/police leaders of various degree of evilness. I am not up to the task so just throwing it out there.
Sockminster made a poll last thread if you're interested. >>46879234
http://www.strawpoll.me/10035851
>>46881863
Did the maker of Vampire king end up implementing the "mortals" page?
>>46881863
>people choosing fairies
>>46881962
That's what the 'child' page is apparently, he just put it oddly.
>>46881935
Why? So it's fine to want fuck a mermaid but it's not fine to want to be a sharkboy while you fuck her? I don't get that. Monsterxmonster is clearly more logical.
>SoonI haven't eaten in 2 days, someone send help.
>>46882014
>Furry race
God, why?
>>46882011
>Monsterxmonster is clearly more logical
If you're a furry.
>>46882055
Fuck off. Nobody but you cares.
>>46882055
Because everyone should have an option, you dink. Just ignore it or something.
>>46882011
don't start a discussion on furries in a new thread, anon. Keep that shit out.
>>46882014
>posting wips
But a stroke or something on the intro text, maybe a box with low opacity behind it.
I do enjoy how you did the picture of the race (partly inside the textbox)
I wish I cared enough about graphics to go out and find images plus do what you did. it looks nice.
Also, no one will pick the Imps due to their lifespan.
>>46882081
Highly doubt that.
>>46882083
Not your kind. Especially not when it could've been cat girls or something.
>>46882014
Navenes is obviously best choice.
>>46882014
Fucking furry shits!
>>46882060
Monster x Monster makes more sense than Monster x Human unless you also believe it makes complete sense for tigers to want to fuck humans primarily.
>>46882115
>implying I'm a furshit
Look, buddy, I'm not telling you to like it. I'm recommending you to ignore it. You don't have to like every CYOA.
>>46882184
I'm talking about a specific option, not the whole CYOA.
>>46882162
But the CYOA is about making monstergirls sexually submit to you, not about natural sexual selection.
>>46882162
>Species was made by a god when he was horny.
>WHY DON'T THEY FOLLOW BIOLOGICAL LOGIC
I wonder
>>46882201
You don't have to like every option either. Seriously, you only have to pick one. You don't have to whine until the designer makes every single option perfect for you.
>>46882221
Yeah, but I am allowed to criticize and question them.
>>46882216
Yes, and MBs are the ones with the natural physical prowess to pull that off.
>>46882217
Why didn't he just make male ones anyway? Why assume an immortal god who's existed from the beginning of time is 50000000% Heterosexual. He existed millions of years before that was even a thing...
>>46882241
You're not doing that, though. You're just saying "stop posting what I don't like!" That's not criticism, or at least useful criticism.
>>46882014
>MAGICAL furfags
I'd rather be raped
>>46882014
You need to explain the origin of these racial groups. Sylvanen etc seems to imply a common ancestor, and for humans in particular people will be curious.
Also let us genocide the cat furries.
>>46882257
That seems a bit excessive.
>>46882253
>God why?
That's a question, rest of this is you guys whining at me for not liking it. Hell, you're only whining at me despite there being at least three other people complaining.
>>46882251
>natural
>made by a goddess
>>46882281
>natural
>made by a goddess
What was the world made by...? What was the universe made by..? What were humans made by...? If you prefer: 'innate.'
Jesus Christ I drained every ounce of energy I had into making
3 Races,
9 Species,
And you people complain about one option?
The choice isn't even that important, the next section will let you move stats around, this is literally just lore and fluff.
I'm going to take a nap. If you guys have insightful complaints I'll be listening.
>>46882216
Still, how does a human get a superior predator like a bigass dragongirl to submit? You'd have to be superstrong, superdurable, etc. You'd barely be human anyway. Instead I'd rather be a dragonboy and go submit the monstergirls who are naturally lower on the foodchain/sexchain. Perhaps even have true battles of dominance with a warrior giantess!
I have no respect for a monstergirl who submits to a normal 5' 11" human with a 7" dick. That's just pathetic.
>>46882251
>Why isn't god gay?
You're bitching just to bitch, autismo.
>>46882311
It's not about making sense it's about muh HFY combined with muh fetish. Monstergirls' lust for human semen doesn't make the slightest bit of sense when monsterboys exist, as they should.
>>46882304
>insightful complaints
If I were pressured into having sex with someone I didn't like, I'd do it if it meant a god would come down and genocide the furry race.
>>46882304
Why did you make them furfags instead of catgirls?
>>46882311
Its different degrees of power fantasy anon.
Some people get a kick out of having much more powerful women submitting themselves to weaker males, where as others prefer the opposite.
Judging by how these threads are filled with lonely, sad virgins, its no wonder they prefer the former over the latter.
>>46882330
More like: why is god straight?
He invented the concept of straight, gay, trans etc. Everything is a direct consequence of his existence. He existed long before these things were even understood by humans, much less existed. Why would he be confined to any one box?
>>46882347
Why do the oddball, artificially created cat people have to be part of some stupid sexual agenda? Why can you not think with your dicks for five minutes and let something be without dragging fetishes into it?
>Every time I come to my hometown my neighbor faggot cat always comes over and gives me THIS face
Thanks, Faggot Cat.
>>46882311
Even despite monsters being stronger they still feel that they are monsters and humans are the master race and want to fuck them, that just makes sense.
>>46882304
Chill, Ferrean. This is par for the course involving CYOA's.
>>46882378
You know what
I'd rather be raped than be forced to read your trying to argue.
In fact I'd pretty much rather get raped anyways
>>46882354
Because catgirls are just humans who say 'nyaa' every now and then. These are supposed to be races that exist independent of your fetishes.
>>46882378
I think anon is saying he hates the furry bestiality race so much he wouldn't care what happened to him if they were genocided. Which is a noble opinion.
>>46882370
>He invented the concept of straight, gay, trans etc
He invented straight, devil invented gay and trans
>>46882304
I don't like how you made humans and elves have to hang out and be nice to furshit.
>>46882411
Not him, but reading the CYOA, it says that they're humans/elves that got infused with animal DNA. Logically they'd be more human than that picture.
>>46882419
He made /everything/, that's what makes him God and not Satan.
>>46882419
Darn, I was going to say that.
>>46882413
Why? Why does it have to be furry bullshit? Who brought up convenient excuses for fringe sex shit? What's wrong with just having things, without "people" like you dragging all and sundry through the fucking shitheap to discuss your pet issues?
>>46882370
>>46882419
>humans invented the concept of straight, gay, trans etc...
>meanwhile God and the Devil are playing blackjack and fucking hookers
FTFY
http://pastebin.com/RfDsDFtH
Rorch's Husbando was done. Images Remain.
>>46882014
>>46882304
You should have slept instead of making the poor decision of including furries.
>>46882444
They're humanoid. There's no reason to believe they'd have no fur at all or even be less animal-like than how they currently are.
>>46882459
Gay, straight, trans etc all exist regardless of whether humans recognize them for what they are.
>>46882378
>>46882458
>This reaction to someone saying he'd rather get raped
Did your ancestors jew-gassed or what?
>>46882014
Got a mistake in the Razhans text. Says Bazhans in the first sentence.
>>46882369
Ha, have you even read the CYOAs here? There's more weak men submitting to powerful women.
>>46882447
Just because he made the materials doesn't mean he made the actual thing.
>>46882277
Because you're yet another whiny entitled shit who insists that everything be what he wants, and CYOA has been completely filled with you and your ilk for weeks now.
>>46882304
You should keep the furry race in the cyoa just to piss off the one or two people who hate furries so fucking much they might be closet furries themselves.
/cyoag/ might become shit due to their saltiness and shitposting, but god damn will I enjoy drinking their tears.
>>46882476
They literally have a cat head. A straight up, regular cat head. They're bipedal, furfag cats. They're as furry as you can get. Doesn't make sense for a human base.
>>46882478
He's saying he'd gladly get raped to have the option removed. It's not somebody refusing something that don't like, and it's beyond any reasonable approach of a human being. It's mindless, fanatical knee-jerking.
>>46882492
>There's more weak men submitting to powerful women.
They have mother issues.
>>46882458
>Why does the race derived from humans and forced to cohabit with humans imply the author has a fetish for furries?
I wonder.
>>46882519
Are you taking the "I'd rather get raped" thing at face value?
Do you realize that I'd rather get raped than have to listen/read what you say/write?
>>46882492
Submitting to pure virgin waifus that exist only to serve the self-insert hand and foot.
>>46882498
>Just because he made the materials doesn't mean he made the actual thing.
There's no reason to believe their existence is anything but intentional given that homosexuality, at least, exist in just about every species to one degree or another.
>>46882518
And? Could just be intentional. You may as well ask why they don't look like elves or elephants.
>>46882510
Nah, I'm asking why he made them furry.
>>46882547
I know right, fucking robot-fetishes. We get it, you want to fuck you toaster, keep it to yourself next time.
>>46882515
Just admit you want them to stay because it's your fetish, be honest.
>>46882570
>And?
You're asking why people are pointing out that this human offshoot doesn't look human. Are you brain damaged?
>You may as well ask why they don't look like elves
I am.
Not even a full hour. I'm impressed.
>>46882251
So go make your furry cyoa?
Sheesh, it's not that hard.
>>46882574
I don't know, but if I were him I'd edit every single option to be animal people just to fuck with you.
>>46882610
Farrean is already making it for him.
>>46882597
You know they weren't just derived from breeding humans, but from active magical experimentation? Sometimes shit happens.
>>46882602
Same. Let's try to change the topic.
>>46882612
I like how you still think it's only one person despite there being three or even four at this point.
>>46882610
>>46882621
How is 'Human goes around raping monstergirls into submission' not a furry CYOA?
>>46882014
>>46882382
>>46882602
Do you think the furry option powers to make people want to get raped are because of how smug that picture is
I mean if he literally choose any other art is it possible that people would not have been as upset because at least the furry doesn't look at smug
>>46882476
They're just broad categories that people defined so its easier for people to identify with a cultural subgroup and feel they belong in a community.
But really those labels don't really need to exist, people are going to fuck other people regardless of gender, inanimate object or other animals that appeal to them sexually. That's it.
Because after all, humans are herd animals.
>>46882570
He gave humans a lot of faults, but he doesn't want them to give into them.
>>46882627
They were still derived from humans crossed with 'animal traits'. You'd think the product would be mainly human.
>>46882597
Stay salty my friend, stay salty and closet furry.
>>46882665
YOU DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE FAULTS. You're just assuming that an immortal, omnipotent, omniscient god fits into a certain--small--box. You have no idea what happens in it's mind so you're making shit up.
>>46882674
Maybe the creators didn't want that..?
>>46882674
I wouldn't be surprised if it was god damn Cthulu. And it might be, given how it claims that their native magical ability leads to wild divergence.
>>46882648
Because it's a bestiality CYOA, there's a difference.
>>46882722
If it is not a fault then why do most old texts refer to it as a sin? And for that matter how do you know it is not a sin?
>>46882722
Why would the creators create furshit?
>>46882724
What?
>>46882014
I should also point out it's bullshit he made the furries the objective smartest and most magical, and thus the outright best, race.
>>46882745
Just about every other species on Earth does not care about homosexuality but humans. Even for humans, most have only cared about it for the historical equivalent of ten minutes. If that, considering how much less people care in the modern day.
>>46882752
>Why would the creators create furshit?
Because they're horny? Because they think 'furshit' is cool? Because they can? You might as well ask why they made Humans, wolves, etc. Because they could and they did.
>>46882752
You said that you'd expect them to be mostly human with minor non-human features. I said that I did not, and wouldn't be surprised if it ended up some weird mish-mash only vaguely humanoid a la Cthulu. The text claims that members of the species can vary widely, suggesting that one of them could actually be Cthulu-shaped.
>>46882752
>not immortal
>70 years lifespan
>doesn't have any stats maxed out
>only 12 total stat points
>frail as fuck
>not based Machinations or Golem master races
What are you smoking and where can I get some?
>>46882799
So it IS their fetish.
>>46882803
If something is mostly human, it should look mostly human. Also the reference to Lovecraft threw me off.
>>46882808
>Smarter than everyone else.
>Brains are the most important trait in civilized society.
>Always magical.
>Leading to consistency and an advanced society that can rely on magic.
It's simple to see. Physicality doesn't matter at all in an advanced society, and humans don't live that far past 70 in the first place. So, they're objectively superior to humans and elves. This reveals an author bias.
>>46882633
OKAY HERE GOES NOTHING.
Pink Mana. Proud and Kind sounds like the best character trait.
The Golem, Sorcerers.
Chaos Magic(Main), Heresy, Abjuration, Healing.
I'd explain my build, but somewhere among the way I started wondering if teaming up Golem, Sorcerer and Chaos Magic was really a good thing. Maybe I need to clam down.
>>46882799
Animals are retarded for the most part. Modern day people are kind of a moot point since people are so divided on if it should be accepted or not, people can still be killed for being homosexual in some places.
>>46882334
>>46882369
Exactly. It feels fake to have a monstergirl submit to a regular human. Like she's just playing along. Yeah, you're the one fucking and "dominating" her but she could still snap your pencilneck with no effort whatsoever. It's more roleplay than submission.
As a monsterboy you're on par or even greater strengthwise and then it's actual dominance. A true battle of dominance and submission between two apex predators.
>>46882648
Because hot girls with cat-ears and a tail aren't furry
>>46882919
>Anon doesn't understand that in fantasy, humans can become superhuman.
>>46882867
>Physicality doesn't matter at all in an advanced society
It still does matter. Or all of our porn and advertisement media would be depicting land whales and slobs.
>and humans don't live that far past 70 in the first place.
If you don't give a shit about your health. Most people living in first world countries can easily live to their 80s with proper eating and exercise.
>>46882966
>>46882919
anon for fucks sake, leave the thread and go make your damn cyoa so you can fap
>>46882131
Deal with it, by the looks of it that's a common mmo range of races.
>>46882968
>It still does matter.
It doesn't. The strength of your sword arm is irrelevant when that cat can shoot you with a gun. Or his airship.
>If you don't give a shit about your health.
Average life expectancy, anon dear. It's not 80.
>>46882927
So why would hot guys with cat ears and a tail be furry?
>>46882919
>As a monsterboy you're on par or even greater strengthwise
But you're still a furry.
>>46883007
What terrible MMO do you play?
>>46882014
Why are humans such retards?
Why are they allowed into the Sylvalan despite being completely inferior to everyone else because they all do something better?
>>46882014
>>46883063
I just re-read to check, and humans are legitimately the stupidest organic race.
>>46882942
I know and dislike that option. You get supernaturally strong and fast and shit humans but it's clearly unnatural and for the purpose of a silly fetish. Like seeing a supernaturally strong bunnygirl dominating a giant. It makes less sense. It doesn't feel right... to me at least. Just silly and comical.
>>46883015
>The strength of your sword arm is irrelevant when that cat can shoot you with a gun. Or his airship.
People are attracted to other people that have amazing looking and fit bodies. You know they form this social/intimate bond called a "relationship" and even perform copulation. Foreign concepts I know.
>Average life expectancy, anon dear. It's not 80.
Depends on the country m80.
>>46883086
>I dislike it.
Who cares what you dislike?
>>46883100
>Attraction
Who cares? We're talking about the value and structure of a society, not what gets your dingle hard.
>Depends on the country.
I don't think any country has one at 80. If there is one though, it's pretty irrelevant since it's still not far above 70.
>>46882633
Blue Mana
Dragon
Sorcerer
Chaos Magic
Metamagic
Havoc
Artifice
Alright, so this is simple. Magic of death and time tend to be reliable choices. Sometimes only one of them is worthwhile, which is okay, and sometimes both of them are seriously dangerous, which is awesome.
Dragon is pretty clear. Dragons are awesome. Also, it lets me consolidate my magical resources, focusing from a bunch of bullshit strewn out and easily stolen and into myself. Well, I might not be understanding that correctly? The ideals all seem to be what you're trying to be/model yourself after, though, and that sounds more or less like a dragon.
Sorcery is the best choice for me, because it reflects my personal stances on what magic should entail. That is to say, the magic is inherently a reflection of the caster, and is a deeply personal experience.
Chaos magic is probably a bad choice, but it's a pretty good choice. Wishcraft get.
Metamagic is important, both because it lets you do good shit, and because it stabilizes my other options, and I majored in something unstable.
Havoc is pretty simple. It also rocks some synergy with my other specialties.
Artifice is also pretty straightforward. Rocks synergies with Chaos Magic, metamagic, and Dragon Idealism, supplying me with extra magical items I can use to sweet effect.
>>46882900
It's okay, feel free to take some time to think about it.
For me, my choice would be an Orange Sorcerer under the Ideal of the Vampire with a primary in Planeswalking and elementalism (metal), meta magic, and magitek secondaries.
I will go around this new world and into several others, finding criminals and warlords, and draining their power through occult rituals. My specialty in metal will allow me to construct constructs considerably quicker,with magitek making my mechanical minions more powerful. Eventually, I will need to deal with the most powerful criminals in the multiverse, possibly even dark gods, but by then I should have grown in power enough to take them on.
>>46882014
It annoys the fuck out of me that Kemezzel can't have sex and that my magicbuild will be shoehorned into Elvishness. Still, I respect your authority as the cyoa maker and thank you for working on another cyoa that's looking great.
>>46883192
You could go human and be an invalid retard who sucks at everything.
>>46883103
That mentality silences all cyoa discussion everywhere. Try again. Or not. I don't particularly care.
>>46883137
The purpose of society is to organize people in such a way that they can get along, work together to acquire scarce resources and distribute those resources with great efficiency and efficacy, fuck and reproduce so the posterity of that society is preserved.
>I don't think any country has one at 80. If there is one though, it's pretty irrelevant since it's still not far above 70.
Japan is one of those countries.
>>46883086
>clearly unnatural and for the purpose of a silly fetish
We're a talking about a fetish CYOA with gods.
>>46883241
And the cats are superior at all of those. They're simply the most intelligent and consistently magical, meaning that they can invent the best technology to best gather the most resources. The only 'disadvantage' is that they're not sexy to humans, but they can juts fuck each other. You literally have no argument against them being superior because of the author being a furfag other than "They're not sexy."
Glad to see were starting off the thread with some dumb argument. It ain't the cyoa general without one.
And Beri, if you're here, where'd you get the art for Kaidra from the colossal cyoa? Is there anything similar? And where do you get normal art of women in general?
And I would honestly love it if you did a new gallery in 10-12 hours or whatever. I'm gonna be home by 6:45 western time or so, and it'll be one of the rare occasions I can actually participate. Cropped a bunch of images and everything. (though I only ever submit 1 at a time. Choosing just my images would be boring.)
>>46883291
Anon, its a WIP.
Why the fuck are you jumping the shark when you haven't seen the finished fucking product?
>>46883029
why don't you just go make your fap-fantasy into a cyoa?
>>46883327
Because that page is complete, as is that race.
Also by your argument, isn't it a good thing that I and others bitched at him for this, else he wouldn't know including the race caused multiple problems do to them being both furshit and objectively superior to the other Sylvanan races?
>>46883337
Why can't you answer the question? What makes females with cat ears and a tail not furry? The fact that you're straight, attracted to them and refuse to admit that by your own standards you're a furry? A bit pathetic, no?
>>46883318
>Glad to see were starting off the thread with some dumb argument. It ain't the cyoa general without one.
I'd much rather get raped than hear you being a smug fatass over your computer screen.
>>46883376
Why can't you acknowledge that you're just upset there's no monsterboy CYOA?
>>46883392
My issue with monstergirls is the whole 'can't reproduce without human males' and 'craves nothing but semen' parts. Outside of that I don't give a fuck. You still have yet to respond meaningfully to
>>46883376
however. Go on.
>>46883376
why can't you just leave and go make your fap-fantasy? You aren't going to change anyone's minds, especially when you write that way.
>>46883360
>furshit
>superior
Doesn't that balance out? I mean, power comes at a price and the price just happens to be you being an horrible abomination of science.
>>46883414
I'm not him, I just know your goal is obvious and am tired of you doing this every other thread lately.
Dude who is complaining about furfags chill the fuck down. Do you bitch about skyrim because it had Khajit? Not everything is a fetish you weirdo. Besides the animals have the second worst lifespan after goblins. That makes them the second worst race.
>>46883431
Not in the CYOA author's opinion, since he made it normal and accepted to be furshit in his world he must think it's perfectly fine.
>>46883451
>Live an average of like two years less than humans (That 80 figure in the CYOA is bullshit without modern medical technology)
>Oh no their lifespan is so terrible
>>46883483
That would mean their lifspan is proportionally lower too since they have the same medicine level. If humans only live to 72 then cats would live only to 52 or something.
>>46883432
>>46883423
>I'm not him, I just know your goal is obvious and am tired of you doing this every other thread lately.
I haven't posted anything about monster girls since the Enchidna CYOA was first posted. The one where humans are suupposed to be turned into MGs or something.
It's just pathetic to me that the line between 'furry' and 'not furry' is decided purely by how much the decider is attracted to the character. That people then go on to argue that they're somehow being logical for deciding things this way is ridiculous.
>>46883524
Says 70, which I'll believe since it's his OC race, but he says humans are just like our humans.
>>46883392
Not him but I would love a monsterboyxmonstergirl cyoa. It combines the awesomeness of being a monsterboy with the awesomeness of fucking monstergirls.
You can't compare monsterboys/girls to furries though. They're supernatural monsters like angels, vampires, succubi, etc. and not anthropomorphic animals. There's a substantial difference.
>>46881863
Switched to the grand cathedral instead of the white palace.
>Libbie
I really like Vanessa, but if I'm going to be spreading the Blood Faith into hostile lands then we really won't have time for all that international traveling and super-thief adventures. And since I don't even have the batfolk strength or the sword, then I could probably use having Libbie's durability in case I get into trouble.
>The Rod
The more fanatical the vampires, the better.
>Mirror
Don't wanna look like a monstrous vampire thing.
>Grand Cathedral
Goin' for that church support.
>Bloodworms
>Rich
>Bats
>Lost
Drugs, money, protection, more followers. What more do I need!
>Fairies
>Hunters
>Pale Ones
Got lots of devoted followers. Lets go spread the love of the Blood Faith and it's Holy Vampire Queen!
>>46883548
Humans lifespan says 80, cats 70. However you put it they have 10 less years lifespan
>>46883483
They have magic, so it makes sense for the lifestyle to be no worse than a modern first world nation like Japan which has around 80 year lifespan. Just because America with it's fast food and fatasses who eat burgers is 76 or so does not mean humans can't make it to 80 or more.
>>46883414
How about you post some of your notFurry! art?
well get nowhere otherwise since we're arguing different things.
>>46883585
But the CYOA maker's figure for humans is bullshit based on what we know about pre-modern lifespans.
>>46883590
Humans don't all have magic. Only furries do.
>>46882014
>compitent
>intellegence
Dude, it looks awesome, but PLEASE remember to proofread next time.
>>46883596The most sensible thing to do is not reply to the furry hater.But we take his bait every time.
>>46883596
We agree pic-related is a Lamia/Naga etc and thus a monster-girl, right? We can agree on this, right? Does she count as furry?
Now what if she had a dick, no breasts and was male in all others respects. Would pic related then be furry? Why?
>>46883622
>Furries are the master race.
>Humans are the shit race.
>Awesome.
I think not.
>>46883569
>I would love a monsterboyxmonstergirl cyoa.
Yeah, but you aren't willing to make it, you'll just keep begging for it.
>It combines the awesomeness of being a monsterboy
are you intentionally trying to sabotage yourself?
>>46883627
>hater
And I take your bait everytime, normalfagman.
>>46883636
Humans are the average race, like always. I mean, what do you want here? All threes? All fours?
>>46883636
D-does that mean he shouldn't fix his grammar?
Time to post another cyoa to try and talk about something else.
>>46883616
You are retarded humans have average magic, along with average everything. The only group that can't do regular magic is the machines.
>>46879274
>Can you tell me how people even arrive to the conclusion that the disadvantages might somehow circumvent the princess type restriction?
Nope. Have to satay with Princess type.
>How do "Superior Princess" stacks with the choices that require mobility ? For example "On Your Best Behaviour"; can the rituals be realised anywhere or do you have to come back to your kingdom constantly?
Most of your duties could be done away from home, but you'd have to occasionally go back to take care of something important. It is a drawback.
>Are the races really supposed to combine ? I can be a Fae Drow Vampire on her way to simultaneous angel- and demon-hood.
The races can be combined. You can totally be any and all of them at once. You have eternity to sort out the potential consequences.
>Do the changes in "Not-So-Royal Behavious" affect the princess, the kingdom or the entire dream world?
Yes.
>For the "Rival Stepsister", by "she can never gotten rid of", is it meant in day-to-day life, or are any attempts to emprison / exile her fated to fail? Asking because it's a recurrent element in fairy tales.
Mostly meant the latter. It is a drawback, so she'll be around enough to be an annoyance.
>I'm wondering how you can capture a princess if you can't invade a kingdom (since only parts of them are in the "misty realm". How is the captured pricess' father suposed to free her? Send adventurers or a champion? Or is raiding with an army allowed?
Guess it's a plot hole. The way I wrote the dream princess realms pretty much means a princess can't be captured by another kingdom unless she wants to be.Maybe she does want to be captured...
>>46883692
The CYOA says the furries can all do magic, because they're all innately magical. This implies that, for other races, not everyone can do magic.
Any news about that one CYOA where you get blasted with big dick magic and shave inches off for benefits? I recall the author said they were basically redoing the thing, but it sounded like they knew what they wanted it to be in the end.
>>46882014
>>46882304
I, for one, am looking forward to it.
>>46883657
Normalfags would hate furries if they knew about them.
>>46883678
They're inferior to every other part of their species. Furries are smarter, Elves are stronger, Navenes are stronger. Humans suck. The average race has no advantages when they're surrounded by people better than them.
Think about this, why would you let a human into the army? They're going to be terrible. You could instead have specialized elf magic troops, specialized Navenes shock troops, specialized furry mechanized units, and have a much better army. Humans are worthless.
>>46883726
That's the latest news about it.
>>46883741
That's how fantasy always goes, though. The orcs are stronger, the elves more magical, the dwarves tougher, the halflings nimbler, the gnomes tech-savvier. Our trait is that we don't suck at anything. Don't like it? Go back in time and punch Gary Gygax in the dick.
>>46883788
Good to know, thanks.
>>46883741
>Humans are worthless.
The only reason they aren't in typical fantasy is pure bullshit like Elves in perpetual and crippling decline. Orcs being dumber than a rock unless it comes to war, at which point they're smart until they actually start winning. Then there's every other race that's pointlessly gimped.
This is what humans would look like if they were forced to live in a universe with other races better, faster, stronger and smarter than them without odd nerfs.
>>46883807
See >>46883820
>>46883820
Thank you for agreeing with me about how the CYOA is unbalanced and shitting on humans.
So humans are the worst race in the Sylvanan, and the CYOA author made the furries the best out of his bias and fetish.
>>46883741
Because it's good to be balanced. The strongest man can wield the greatest sword. The smartest man can outwit every enemy. The most skilled man can craft the best weapon.
But the balanced man can craft a lesser sword, wield it and outwit a great many enemies all by himself. What can the others do alone?
>>46883711
Furries can do magic about as well as humans both furries and humans have two in magic. In magic elves are better than humans with three the navens are worse at magic than humans with one. So out of the Sylvan races the furries don't beat humans in magic only in technology. But we beat them in strength and toughness. They also beat us in skill but that doesen't seem to do much when I read the other races.
>>46883848
> unbalanced
It's not. It's just how humans would be if forced to live in a universe with creatures faster, stronger, smarter etc. It's not unbalanced any more than how wolves are forced to live in a world with mice, which are more agile and breed more quickly. Or monkeys which are more dexterous.
>>46883856
>It's good to be average.
No it's not. The strong man crushes you. The skilled man outcompetes you. The smartest man outwits you.
When you're part of a racial group like this and all of your peers are superior to you at any of everything, that means that you're worthless chaff. They have no use for you. Need something invented? Go to the furries. Need some magic? Elves. Need muscle? Navenes. Humans serve no value here.
>>46883876
But furries are always magical.
>We beat them in strength and toughness
Irrelevant. In an advanced society, these two things mean nothing. Technology is the equalizer, and they're far superior in that.
>>46883894
It is, because he didn't have to make all the races superior. That's on him. He's not depicting a pre-existent setting, he made this one up.
What people should be worrying about is that MAG 3 is somehow comparable to STR 3. So how fucking limited is magic?
>>46882014
Looks good so far. Fix the grammar in certain points like that Anon said (don't forget "scholors"), but ignore the idiots whining about the "furry" option. Oh, boohoo, they're antropomorphic animals, you're the ones who chose to see this as a fetish being imposed rather than a famous character archetype (guess what? Beastmen exist, always have).
>>46883894
Real life is unbalanced.
>>46883856
>But the balanced man can craft a lesser sword, wield it and outwit a great many enemies all by himself.
Its either this or "The balanced man can craft a lesser sword, somewhat wield it, and can barely outwit anyone".
there's a very thin line between being Overpowered, Underpowered, and being a master of everything. Most of them going into "underpowered" status.
>>46883927
>How DARE anons be upset that the furries are superior to humans!
>How DARE anons use logic to point out a human-based race should look human instead of like cats!
>How DARE anons be upset that furshit is disgusting!
How about you use logic and read people's arguments?
>>46883942
Is this real life, or is this just fantasy?
>>46883942
>>46883923
We all have our strengths and weaknesses. Humans evolved in such a way that they're able to survive in their environment. Sadly for them this evolution didn't factor in Elves that are better than them in every way. Tough shit.
>>46883741
Because the downside with the other races is that while they have strengths they are very good at, they also have crippling weaknesses. If you have humans you can shuffle them wherever and you won't lose anything. If your magic elves die, and you don't have any other magic troops you are fucked. If your Navens die then you don't have any hard core soldiers and you are fucked. With humans you aren't the best but you aren't the worst so you can pass at everything. Because if you have humans they make a great back up if you lose your navens or your elf mages.
>>46883856
Thank you you speak with much wisdom
>>46883978
See the last part of that post. He's making a CYOA, the options should be balanced.
>>46883986
The cats don't have a real weakness. For the Elves and Navenes, they make up for each others weaknesses. You forget that in this CYOA they're all one race and one allied group. Humans are worthless here.
>All these arguments about which race is better or worse
I'll just be over here, awaiting the approaching and inevitable singularity of all traits.
>>46884019
Except magic. :^)
>>46883978
You can't say though shit on this.Tough shit implies that's just how things are and you need to learn to accept it to go on with your life.
But this is a game. If things are unbalanced we shouldn't just accept it, we should change the game to make it better.
So you don't go 'yeah one of these choices is clearly superior, too bad for the others' you go 'yeah one of these choices is clearly superior, let's redo the stats for a bit'
>>46883961
Most of you can't even distinguish between furry and monster girls.
I have yet to recieve a response to
>>46883631
for example.
>How DARE anons use logic to point out a human-based race should look human instead of like cats!
They're a created race and it already says their physical forms are unstable and unpredictable. There's no reason to believe some aren't human looking or that they weren't made in that particular way intentionally.
>How DARE anons be upset that furshit is disgusting!
Not even most people care about how you feel about furry, m9.
>>46884008
>Humans are worthless here.
Meh. Someone was going to be anyway. If humans were a 3 in all stats they'd be wildly over-powered. Not all options in a CYOA are equal. You can still take human for RP purposes. You live in a human world, you've seen what they can do. What does it matter if everyone is inherently smarter, more attractive and stronger than you? That's still the case in real-life.
>>46883616
>But the CYOA maker's figure for humans is bullshit based on what we know about pre-modern lifespans
Who cares, those numbers are a frame for refereance for different races lifespan to see who is longer long lived and who is not.
Argument: humans being so terribly balanced and generic makes them superb diplomats which in turn allowed them to assure their survival through political means.
That make sense?
>>46884039
>Golems, artificial life have been given artificial means to use magic
>Machinations are literally a handful of mad experiments away from reaching Int 2 and their own singularity, including intellect
They don't even need your filthy, illogical fleshbag magic.
>>46884086
>I've yet to receive a response...
Because I'm not part of that argument. Look at the CYOA I'm arguing about. The race literally is just a cat with some human hair on its head.
>They're a created race
Made by adding animal traits to humans. Sure as fuck don't look like it.
>Meh
That's not 'meh', that's a criticism of the CYOA balance that needs to be corrected.
>Not all options in a CYOA are equal
Assuming equal costs, this is poor design.
>Why does it matter if humans are garbage in this world?
Because it's bullshit and a bad CYOA for it.
>elves
>oh you have to be the heal/mage/leader of the party no exceptions
>navenes
>you have to be the soldier/bodyguard/blacksmith no expections
>also we're going to spend the vast majority of our time shitting on you for no reason
>Luran
>you have to be the artificer/engineer no exceptions
>Aolums
>why the fuck are you here? Go back to your ivory tower of academia and stick to your books, nerd!
>NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRD!
>Kemezzel
>HA! you want to be magical teacher? Tough shit, you still have 3 unexplored dungeons to clear.
>Razhans
>get back to work, the salt mines don't dig themselves
>also stop making those dangerous tools and gadgets, or we're cutting off your food rations
>machinations
>beep boop what's magic lol?
>Golems
>boop beep executing SMASH.EXE
>Humans
>you can do WHATEVER you want!
>>46884136
Nope, garbage skills does not equal diplomatic skills,
People need to learn to stop responding to autists like they're actual humans. They're not. They're incapable of logic or reasoning - once they've made up their minds they're going to argue until they get their way or you just ignore them forever.
>>46884141
>Made by adding animal traits to humans. Sure as fuck don't look like it.
They could be made by adding some human-elven traits to animals. i.e sentience, two legs, a head and arms.
>Because it's bullshit and a bad CYOA for it.
Would you mind if they were removed altogether?
>That's not 'meh', that's a criticism of the CYOA balance that needs to be corrected.
How would improve their design without changing their 'balanced' nature. Remember: you can't increase their stats because then they'd be over-powered.
>>46884008
Humans might be more balanced and useful statwise on the Uretiel race since one side is super smart but weak at everything, and Kemmezel are awesome at everything but tech, and the tech goblins they have are criminals who use dangerous tech. So in that alliance we would be the sane group who can provide decent safe tech as well as be able to fight and serve as decent line and magic troops. Not as good as the fire guys but decently. And the robots are even more unbalanced. But the groups did not ally with each other for complimentary stat bonuses. It might have to do with racial biology, and cultural similarities. The robots with robots, the goblins and fire guys under their priest kings, and humans and elves together. Maybe the furies are with use because they feel loyalty to their creators?
>>46884086
Still waiting for you to post a notFurry! boy.
You failed what I asked you to do.
Well I suppose we we're going to need to do it at some point.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10039770
>>46884141
How do you know they are humans that got animal traits? Maybe they are animals who got human traits. Or maybe they were animals that were forcibly evolved, like the Skaven from Warhammer, only less evil and not trying to kill humanity.
>>46884141
Eden just needs a beastman DLC like mmo deathgame had. It was very impressive: you could pick a percentage of furryness and roll for one of 100 animals.
Let me post it.
>>46884275
Answer the questions in the post. Don't avoid them just so you can pretend you won the argument.
>>46884275
Anyway, this is pointless as you won't make a CYOA and I won't include furries in any I make
>>46884167
More like
>Humans
>Hahahhaha you think you're can do anything useful.
>>46884275
Not him, but have a dragonboy.
>>46884207
#notallautists
>>46884213
>They could be made by...
But they're not.
>Would you mind them being removed?
Not as long as he removes the furries too.
>How would you improve the design without balance?
You wouldn't.
>>46884292
It says so in the CYOA, illiterate.
>>46884276
>MinMaxers
>Baitable
Sorry, I topped my int stat.
>>46884219
Humans are part of the Sylvanan faction, wherein they're inferior to all the other races. No, humans are not 'balanced so it's okay!' they're shit within their own faction, and thus have no value.
>>46884255
Did you not have the second one?
>>46884276
Since when did a min/maxer REEEE'd in /cyoag/?
I honestly don't remember.
>>46884388
Have you ever thought of maybe not doing the CYOA if you think it's stupid?
>>46884355
>They could be made by...
>But they're not.
Here is what their lore says:
> This species was created in magical Human-Elvish experiments by crossing Sylvalan traits with animal traits.
Explain how this precludes elves adding their genes to animals? Explain how this could preclude elves intentionally creating a race with 'furry' characteristics.
>>46884355
Fucking autists should be shot. I will quote what is says word for fucking word.
"This species was created in magical Human-Elvish experiments by crossing Sylvan traits with animal traits." It doesen't say which one is dominant.
>>46884433
>There's a problem with the CYOA balance.
>How DARE you give fair criticism!
Do you see your problem?
>>46884444
Because it's using Sylvanan as the primary.
>>46884447
It does matter which is dominant, because that would be the base.
Though both of you should also realize that them being furshit is a terrible inclusion and they should have been literally anything else.
>>46884388
If they were in the uretiel race I said they would not be inferior since they could fill a bigger niche there. But you are retarded since humans can still fill a general niche in the Sylvan race. Here is something for you not all humans are autists who min max in real life. The Sylvan alliance may be an alliance because those races want to band together to protect themselves from the robots, or they don't want to be under the control of the Aolums. Because depending on how the author does it he could have it so the Uretiel race is led by the Aulums and they are the priest kings who want to convert everyone and shit. So then it would make sense for humans and everyone to join up in a big group to defend themselves.
>>46884255
>Full on Harem Mode
Man who would pick the option to be in a boring harem like we haven't seen enough shows of that flying around are you 12 or so
>>46884403
>A Monstrous Happy Time
Okay then
>>46884484
They are no different than Khajit. I don't bitch about the cat people in elder scrolls. As long as someone doesen't bring up a waifu cyoa with them, then it's ok.
>>46884403
>Fantastic Adventure
This is the only one without a downside so I guess I'll pick it. I'd even love for some ancient elven hero to whip me into shape.
I do wonder how badly I'd miss home and whether eventually I might wish to return...
>>46884521
There's no need for a 'general' niche. Humans would be inferior at everything. There's no reason to use them.
>>46884552
It's not okay to make include some furshit race humans have to be allied with, that is objectively superior to humans in every way.
>>46884484
>Because it's using Sylvanan as the primary.
It says it crossed Sylvanan genes with animal ones. Not that animals were not used as the base. Or that so much Sylvanan DNA was used that the creatures would only look like humans but with cat-ears. It doesn't change the fact that elves or humans could have easily decided to make the furries look the way they do.
>>46884585
They would only have decided that if they themselves are furfags. Which is absolutely repulsive.
>>46884484
If your only criticism was "this CYOA is unbalanced", I'd agree, but you and a few other people are going full REEEEE over the inclusion of "furshit".
I agree that balance is a problem here, but optional races really aren't worth freaking out over, friend.
>>46884603
>They would only have decided that if they themselves are furfags
Or they wanted to emphasize the beast origins or just..
Not everyone cares about what does and doesn't get you off. For fuck's sake.
>>46884606
Including his disgusting fetish is worthy of criticism. Nobody made him do such a thing.
ITT pretending we won't all end up with maxed stats and functional demigodhood anyway so base stats are still somewhat relevant
...
>each race has 12 points in their attributes
>why is this CYOA so unbalanced!? >humans should be the best at everything all the time forever!
What in the literal fuck is wrong with all of you?
>>46884632
>they wanted to emphasize the beast origins
They'd only do this if it got them off.
>>46884276
You should have made it multiple choice. Fur-rees and Pure Waifus are both riled up extremely easily.
>>46884635
>Including his disgusting fetish is worthy of criticism.
There are hordes of CYOAs with monstergirls, loli, femdom etc and no-one bats an eye.
>>46884662
Or it was political because they didn't want the species made of humans, elves and beasts to look only like humans, elves or beasts..?
>>46884655
Actual, the artificials both have 16 and the goblins 13.
Regardless, point count isn't the only criteria. You have to consider that generalists have no value when you have a society and a race with people who excel in all the relevant niches. The generalists have no place here, regardless if they have the same point count.
Didn't ferrean say the next section would let you move stats around or something? That could be worth holding off on the shitstorm, yes?
>>46884655
Absolutely no one is saying that humans should be the best at everything. We're saying that humans are effectively shit at everything, because everyone is better than us at something.
Which still might be fixed in the next section.
I did not expect this from posting a WIP...
This is far from finished, I just didn't want someone to mention that another steampunk airship CYOA was on the way.
Oh yeah, this is going to be about airships. Almost forgot.
AND FOR CLARIFICATION:
Sylvalan is 1 race. They were all the same at one point, but later developed on different landmasses and branched out, but ultimately stayed similar enough genetically. This will be explained farther.
Humans are smarter than Navenes. Not the dumbest.
Lurans aren't that magical, I just needed an excuse to explain the special snowflakes that people will make for this species. I'll say their genetics are unstable or something, explaining the short lifespan.
There will be a mutt option, letting you splice two species together as long as they're from the same race. You can have your catgirls.
And most importantly, this choice doesn't really matter. The next section will let you customize stats further, this is just for world lore and giving the PC a basis.
Have an ironic rabbit doll.
>>46884693
>There are hordes of CYOA
This one is trying to be a serious setting, so it's obvious fetishism is a more worthy target.
>Political
>Animals have political rights
Are you even trying?
>>46884255
>your big sister likes walking around naked
She already does. It's fucking annoying.
Magical Harem has no downsides beyond that, and I do like Slice of Life.
>>46884724
>Political
>Animals have political rights
>Are you even trying?
Or maybe the makers wanted to do it out of principle?
>>46884742
>>46884723
>Humans aren't the dumbest
Same int value as Navenes.
>Lurans aren't that magical.
You made them innately magical. Also, why did you make them furshit?
>There will be a mutt option
So you're going to make it so humans and furries breed. This only strengthens the claim that this is your fetish.
>The next section lets you change stats.
Starting stats will likely matter for point and build costs. Regardless, see >>46884694, for just an example of why it matters from a lore perspective. You've made humans absolute garbage-tier in your fluff.
>>46884693
>There are hordes of CYOAs with monstergirls
But they aren't furshit, so what's your point?
>>46884723
>this is going to be about airships
That just makes things like Strength and Vitality seem even more useless, you're at a point where you have airships anyways. Get at least 2 STR, and use equipment like Crowbars to compensate for your lack of strength.
But oh well, I didn't see your actual CYOA yet, so, I'll be waiting.
>>46884723
>Making catgirls literal half-furries
Do you not see how upset this will make people? That's disgusting.
>>46884770
>>46884723
Like anon said, strength is worthless. The smartest race is the best. And tech wise? It's the furries. They're the best race because technology invalidates physical abilities.
>>46884818
>>46884750
Furry principles.
>>46884776
>So you're going to make it so humans and furries breed. This only strengthens the claim that this is your fetish.
When DMs/GMs/authors etc allow humans and elves/orcs/vampires/etc to breed does that mean they are imposing their fetishes?
>>46884776
>why did you make them furshit?
Because not everyone gives a fuck about your bullshit.
>>46884790
So to be clear: a long as it doesn't have fur even a creature with a snake lower-half & cold blood is fair game?
>>46884403
Psionic Potential
All of the powers provided would be useful, and the possibility of communicating with historical figures would be very amazing.
>>46884694
Artificials have 12, anon. The red bars are zeroes, not fours. Their descriptions literally say they can't use those abilities. Agreed on the goblins, but they die quick, so nobody in /cyoimmortality/ is going to choose them.
Also, average isn't bad. An exceptional human will be as good as the average catboy, but unlike the average catboy they can lift shit and can actually work for extended periods of time without falling down.
>>46884723
>There will be a mutt option, letting you splice two species together as long as they're from the same race. You can have your catgirls.
Okay nevermind, leave the furries there, I don't want catgirls anymore.
>>46884856
We need more cyoas with daughterus.
>>46884865
To a degree, but at least they're not furries.
>Because not everyone gives a fuck!
So you're saying it's because it's his fetish.
>>46884803
I still don't understand why this disgusts people so much. I'm not into it myself, but I'm not so hilariously thin skinned that its mere existence offends me.
>>46884723
Ferry, friend, you're not gonna win this fight. I recommend just ignoring the furshit complaints and potentially rebalancing everyone.
>>46884891
So it's not about the bestiality aspect but rather some arbitrary amount of fur that's riling you up? Are you opposed to panda-girls?
>>46884897
Think about it this way. You have a waifu, she's cute. But then it turns out that her dad is an ass monster. Like, a literal monster made of assholes. Your waifu is partially ass monster. It's gross.
>>46884836
It makes sense though. They tried to play god, made a superior species through science and now everyone is fucked.
They can only blame themselves.
>>46884910
>Fur
>Arbitrary
>It's literally a cat with human hair.
>>46884908
No, he should remove the option to have mutts at least.
