So Many General Images Edition
>Rules databases
https://mega.co.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
https://kat.cr/warhammer-40k-pdf-library-t9575373.html
>FAQs
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata
>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef_V7.pdf
>Forgeworld Book index
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index
I am Warhammer 40k and so can you!
>>46837915
>Challenge accepted sub-edition
So, let's build an army of orphans.
What are all the GW units that had minis at some point but were orphaned/no longer supported by the rules and are absent in the most recent iteration of their codex?
Keep a separate list for FW stuff.
So far
Squats: Entire Line
Tau: XV-15, Anghkor Prok
>>46837915
>>46838151
The image is missing a Haemonculus and a Genestealer Hybrid.
>>46838151
Why are you posting this?
The op has the renegade and the renegade knight.
You have everything you want, now stop spamming your image, you're wasting space.
>>46838191
Sisters of Battle. All of them.Lets face it, their unique transports are gone and their infantry models are slowly disappearing off the website too. It's only a matter of time till they get squat'd.
>>46838237
Those are supplements covered by the nid and dark eldar
>>46837915
>So Many General Images
What does the very first meme image look like?
Just SM/Eld/Cron/Ork faces?
>>46838260
>It's only a matter of time till they get squat'd.
Don't you ever talk to me or my waifus again!
>>46838237
Wait until you get a real codex anon
>>46838254
>1 image
>Spam
Someones triggered
Is that you carnac?
So what is the next Lord of War to be released?
Are any of you fine gentlemen actually getting to a table top this weekend (today included)?My next game is schedueled for May 20th, haven't plated in two weeks. My job has too much overtime.
>>46838331
>playing 40k
>>46838254
It's the So Many General Images Edition, so he's helping by posting so many General Images.
>>46838331
Nope, but my imperial space marine arrives tomorrow, so I have something 40k related to do.
>>46838191
Some of the few I planned on getting when they were available.
>Al'rahem
>Sergeant Bastionne
>Chenkov
>Arch confessor Kyrinov
>Rough riders
>Griffon
>Orks are a melee race!
>I2
![142438db4601578867c443c40c9b74c9[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/u2J0cf0.jpg "142438db4601578867c443c40c9b74c9[1].jpg")
>>46838191
Is there an Internet equivalent in the 40k universe? Are there astropathic shitposters?
What is life like on Chaos-held worlds? I have yet to find a piece of lore that describes everyday life for your average Joe Chaos.
If the Emperor is the bestest psyker ever who gets to eat all the other psykers, why can't he devote like 0,1% of his power to send a telepathic message to humanity telling them to get their shit together already?
What happens to your soul after you die? Depending on species.
Why are Orks da best?
Why do so many Chaos helmets feature bunny ears? Especially Khornate berserkers.
>>46838331
I have a game in a couple hours against SoB or GK either of which can have Inquis and/or a Knight allied in. Pretty stoked since it is my first time going against literally any of it. Should be a 2500pt game.I am bringing 15Plas, 6 Grav(counting Combi) and 8 Multimeltas. I am pretty hyped for this game
>>46838331
I'm playing an improper 2v2 with my nids this weekend with some buddies from HS
Tau/nids vs SW/Daemons
Should befun
>>46838399
>Is there an Internet equivalent in the 40k universe? Are there astropathic shitposters?
Chaos gods are the shitposters of reality.
>>46838191
>XV-15
Still supported actually. It uses the same stats as the current Stealth suits. Their fluff entry actually mentions them as an older model some veteran pilots prefer for the smaller profile. There were even examples of it in the 6e book's model section. Not sure about the 7th.
But yeah, totally legit to use. I have six myself
>>46838399
1. probably not though some might say the webway
2. life's probably a lot more action packed. chaos worlds probably have more freedoms, but it's also probably a lot more dangerous and lawless, open to overthrows etc.
3. Emps is doing the best he can
4. Eldar get eaten by slannesh or go to the infinity circuit. Humans get eaten by daemons or enter the emp's soft embrace
5. Orks have already won etc.
6. Chaos marines have strange traditions.
>>46838399
>Is there an Internet equivalent in the 40k universe?
>>46838468
>Chaos gods are the shitposters of reality.
Then Ork Gods are the Shit Posters of the warp.
>>46838191
>>46838370
>>46838397
>Squats
>Chaos Squats
>Al'rahem
>Sergeant Bastionne
>Chenkov
>Arch confessor Kyrinov
>Rough riders
>Griffon
>XV-15s
>Anghkor Prok
>Cultist Cars
A ragtag group, so far
A friend of mine and I are going to be running a Tournament at our FLGS, and are trying to come up with some rules and guidelines for it, but there is one point we are disagreeing at.
I think there should be a limit of 1 Super Heavy per 1000 points, and 1 Flier per 500 points. That way people won't be bringing a Baneblade or Imperial Knight at 500 points and ruin everyone's day, or bring like 3 Valkriyes at 500 points.
The point of contension is he runs an IG list where he ends up having like 7 or 8 Fliers at 2000 points, and insists its fine. I think thats just way too much.
What do you guys think? Should a cap be put onto how many fliers can be brought, or is there truely no problem with 7 valkyrie Vendettas showing up on turn 2 and 3?
>>46838533
>>Sergeant Bastionne
He has never had a model.
>>46838496
They are exclusively XV25s in 7E.
I've been writing up lists today in hopes of getting some games on Tuesday.
This'll be my first time I've played since 5th edition?
1000 points
HQ
Warboss + Gazbad Bike + Pklaw 120
Troops
12 Boyz + Nob + bpole + Rtrukk + Bshoota 127
12 Boyz + Nob + bpole + Rtrukk + Rokkit 127
12 Boyz + Nob + bpole + Rtrukk + Rokkit 127
Elites
5 Nobs + Bikes + 1Bpole + 2pklaw 280
Fast Attack
15 Stormboyz + Nob + Bpole + pKlaw 175
Heavy Support
2 Mek Guns + 2 Gretchin 42
Total
998
Fast Attack army, felt it was a bit weak on anti-tank so I put in rokkit boyz and a couple of mek guns.
Upgrade to 1500 points with
Elites
12 Burna Boyz + 2 Meks 192
Fast Attack
10 Bikers + Nob + Bpole + PKlaw 220
Heavy Support
Fred Dredd + Grot Riggers 90
I was originally planning to but the Burna boys into a battlewagon with all the trimmings but decided I wanted to use all my bikes instead.
How badly am I going to get rekt with this army?
Any suggestions for my Warboss name? I'm thinking something like Wizzdiki, because currently my Bike Warboss is a 2nd edition? Warbiker, picture related but not mine, and he is fucking tiny.
I've been thinking if I should just attach STUFF to it, or if I should just field him as is till I get a better model.
>>46838548
Run the Tetrad until he admits fliers need limited or gets mindbroken by Daemon dick.
>>46838548
Our FLGS hired a "games guy" to deal with just this sort of situation, I would definitely recommend making the suggestion, but I digress
The rules that out tourneys usually roll with are no super heavies or GCs and 1 psykic dice per 100pts and it is never really a problem, except this last time when a guy brought his friend from another town and he brought double skyhammer
>>46838679
>1 psychic dice per 100pts
Fuck you!
>>46838533
Don't forget the Barricuda
>>46838597
>This'll be my first time I've played since 5th edition?
I am sorry.
>>46838597
>15 Stormboyz + Nob + Bpole + pKlaw 175
no bueno
get more bikes.
MANz and Bustas are the best Ork stuff atm along with Bikers (in the codex).
Stormboys are pretty trash and they wont even do much, also all your trukks are going to pop in a stiff wind.
Burna Boys are decent against hordes but anywhere else its like, why not just more Manz, Bustas, Mek Guns or Bikers.
You can put Manz and Bustas in trukks at low points (and I am a fan of Bustas in trukks always as suciide tank poppers) but eventually MANz will want to safely get where they need to go with Battlewagons.
>>46838548
7 Valkyries barebones is 875 pts min. With squads inside / upgrades / vendettas it's even more.
At a 2000 pt game he's having over half his forces reserved.
Play with Mysterious Objectives for potential for Skyfire and have fun.
>>46838399
>astropathic shitposters?
If there were, they'd quickly become thralls of Tzeentch
>what happens on Daemon worlds?
Anything ranging from a planet of orgies to valleys of bones.
>get their shit together already?
He's most likely so deep in the warp that he can only communicate through broken psychic morse code.
>What happens when you die?
Eldar get their souls stuck in a stone attached to their person, which is then brought to a network where they join the rest of the dead Eldar in a big wraith party.
Human souls go to the warp to most likely get devoured by a daemon. Powerful Psykers' souls can put up a good fight.
>Why are Orks da best?
Cos Orkz iz da biggest AND the strongest.
>chaos bunny ears
Probably because it resembles the appearance of Khorne.
>>46838533
Sly Marbo's gone too, isn't he?
>>46838577
Straight from the 7e codex. They're still in use fluff-wise, and they use the same rules crunch-wise.
They've been downplayed even more since 6e, but that's likely because GW isn't selling them, and so isn't going to spend time painting up new ones for their big army displays.
![99110105133_ColonelShafferLastChancersNEW01[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EH9PdfB.jpg "99110105133_ColonelShafferLastChancersNEW01[1].jpg")
>>46838533
did you know you can still buy these sweet dudes
>>46838548
Sounds like your friend is a real fun opponent.
THE GREY KNIGHTS ARE AGENTS OF CHAOS!
WAKE UP SHEEPUS IMPERIALUS!
>>46838810
Source?I have heard some people claim they are Thousand Sons or some shitty heretical psykers
>>46838779
Forgot pic
>>46838556
I've been told numerous times that pic-related was his intended model.
>>46838846
They SLAUGHTERED a bunch of Sisters, arguably the most devoted followers of the Emperor in the universe.
If that isn't heresy, I don't know what is.
>>46838679
> 1 psykic dice per 100pts
So run Librarius Conclave or fuckoff. Nice change.
>>46838898
that's just the old cadian stormtrooper sergeant.
>>46838772
He's not gone.it's just no-one's found him yet.
>>46838810
No one knows about these grey knights you speak of.
Executed for besmirching the imperiums name.
>>46838846
>>46838900
More specifically, they were in some spooky Daemon place, and murdered a bunch of Sisters of Battle.
Their supposed reason for doing so is that Sisters of Battle are pure, and therefore they needed to bathe in their blood to help protect them from the Daemonic corruption around them.
Ignoring the fact that Grey Knights are supposed to be immune to corruption entirely.
>>46838954
Being nigh impossible to corrupt doesn't make Grey Knights immune to the malign effects of Warp exposure. They used the Sisters blood to protect themselves from what was, in effect, very potent blood magic.
>>46838779
The unit is called XV25 Stealthsuits. I know that you could use the 15s as counts-as, and that they are still fluffed, but the unit is officially not 15s. They are a unique model that, at one time, had specific rules.
I can still use Anghkor Prok the mini as a Master Shaper, and just /say/ that he's Prok, and he may even be mentioned in the fluff, but at one time there was a distinctive set of unit rules for him, and now there isn't.
That is what I mean by orphaned minis. A few months ago, the entire genecult line would have been in it, too.
>>46838989
Which is funny because some of those Sisters were actually called out as being immune to those same effects of warp exposure.
![sob1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SpqfX0t.jpg "sob1[1].jpg")
>>46838954
>>46839015
We don't talk about that fluff.
>>46838989
Matt Ward plz go.
>>46838989
BLOOD FOR THE THRONE CORPSE
>>46838758
Manz would be meganobs?
I'm actually fielding all the bikes I have with this army, and I wanted to have the stormboyz in just because I bought them already dammit.
I've also only got the two mek guns currently, cept for this possibly 2nd edition cannon I have on my desk.
I also only have 5 Tank Bustas atm, I was considering taking them, but only 5, didn't seem worth it.
I wrote up a 2nd shooty list today with 3 squads of 20 shoota Boys, 10 Flash Gits, 15 lootas and 6 Killa Kans, 5 Burna Boys, a Dakkajet and a Big Mek. 1500 points exact.
Depending on what the other guy brings I could take it the Mek as Shokk Tack or Force Field.
I actually need to build more lootas for this army though, I only have 4 currently.
Picture is a Looted Wagon I made when there was actually rules for Looted Wagons in the Codex.
I actually set fire to it to simulate damage, I think I might be retarded.
Yes I'm aware it looks awful.
I want to get into W40k but I really have no fucking idea where to start. I know I have to do a lot of reading no matter what but I don't want to download something to find out that it's 5 years outdated by another book.
I want to play Chaos Space Marines because they look cool, but I like the idea of Chaos Undivided and I've heard some people say that's a horrible fucking idea and I'm so confused.
>>46839037
Retards that don't know their shitty factions own fluff please go. The Grey Knights' actions were completely in keeping with preexisting Imperial doctrine regarding the Warp and anti-Chaos munitions and techniques.
>>46838331
Been sick for two months straight, so still no games in the near future.
Hoping to play again in the far future.
>>46838846
The idea that they are completely immune to the forces of Chaos is impossible. Impossible.
The clear truth is that Chaos has no need to corrupt them, for they are already enthralled.
>>46839088
There's a chap on KAT called Epistolary who seems to have most of the current codices up in PDF and eBook formats, if that's what you're after.
>>46839088
You want to play CSM or something chaos
Find a FLGS, go visit during a day when there are 40k players. Maybe watch an indepth and non-meta battle report or two before going
After you see enough to figure out if you would enjoy playing, look over the army options, chaos has a few of them.
Once you decide, start small. Play with people who are willing to both play with and teach a new player.
The FW updates to their books have me turned around. Where can I find the most up to date version of the ImpGuard StormLord?
I'm trying to decide between wastelander ImpGuard+Skitarii or FW Lost and the Damned. Suggestions?
>>46838898
Sgt. Bastionne had some pretty great Tom Cruise hair though
>>46838903
The rule has been around since the inception of the psykic phase, it was designed to prevent our local net lister from summon spam
>>46838900
>They SLAUGHTERED a bunch of Sisters, arguably the most devoted followers of the Emperor in the universe.
>If that isn't heresy, I don't know what is.
Imperial forces do things like that all the time in the lore.
In fact, during the novel the The Death of Antagonis, I distinctly recall them shuttling loyal citizens in the millions or billions onto a planet sized super-weapon for the purposes of activating it to hurl it into the system's star.
The only thing that seemed out of place with the Grey Knights business was using the blood of said sisters as a talisman of purity.
It would have been more believable if it was required for a ritual to end the Daemonic Incursion.
>>46838151
Someone fix the damn "of far future" bullshit first, then you can go adding pointless minuscule factions that barely have a codex.
>>46839238
War Zone Damocles: Mont'Ka. Stormlord is GW model so it has GW rules.
>>46839003
that sounds like bitching.
They're mentioned in the fluff, and there are still rules for using them.
The comparison to genecult doesn't stand because there was no way to use the cultists, magnus, etc. There were not rules for them.
>>46839294
But that's a part of the meme itself senpai
>>46839273
Those citizens died for their Empire as martyrs and shall be remembered as such.
Also they weren't pure.
Also fuck Grey Knights.
>>46838898
Tell those people that they're idiots.
>>46839365
There are some models that are on the down low meant to be a specific dude.
Chaos Lord in the Dark Vengeance kit is Kranon the Relentless, the recent Necron Overlord with a scythe instead of a warscythe is Zarathusa the Ineffable, that kinda thing.
>>46839314
>There were not rules for genestealer cults
This fucking guy.
>>46839273
well, and the fact that we're never given any reason WHY the blood of the sisters was needed as a talismen of purity.
The GK are supposed to be incorruptable, so covering themselve in blood to avoid corruption seems pretty out of place unless you give set up. And IIRC there is shit all setup for that. It's just a thing that happens.
Killing a bunch of sisters is fine. Doing it because the sisters were corrupted, or the blood of the pure would harm the whatever would be fine. Doing it to keep the incorruptable GK from being corrupted is a WTF moment.
Hell, they could have had the GK say to the sisters that they needed there blood to fight the thingy, and then have the sisters sacrifice themselves. There, GK are brutal but good, and Sisters are brave and selfless.
>>46838331
getting ready for apoc on the 30th
>>46839393
I clearly meant in the current codex asshole. That's why it's was an abandoned unit. There were rules, and then there weren
>>46838954
>>46838989
>>46839015
It wasn't warp exposure, it was the bloodtide. A chaos infected nanoswarm. That whole thing was retconned anyway to the sisters saving their lives and the GK essentially mercy killing them as they were in horrific agony.
>>46839332
Tell us where we touched you anon
>>46839420
Good thing your spice rack is in this shot- that, the Apoc bomber and your butterdish are your defining features.
>>46839442
The foul Psyker mutant filth is right behind you Sister.
>>46839420
I like your little pumpkin light, Anon.
>>46839396
>>46838900
I'm not that other anon, but
>The GK are supposed to be incorruptable
They are not and never were incorruptible. They are explicitly outlined as constantly undergoing intensive purification rituals for their bodies, their minds,a nd their wargear after every battle with daemons. Their chaplains are attributed to why none of them have ever been corrupted. In the Grey Knight novel, the MC is mentioned as constantly fearing that he'll be the first Grey Knight to fall to chaos, and so he tries to get himself killed before that happens.
Grey Knights have always been "incorruptible by preparation" not incorruptible in general. Their preparation rituals, extensive knowledge, and other contingencies are why GKnights haven't fallen, and the ritual of purity using the sister's blood easily fit into how they work. People just bitched because 1) they have no idea how GKnights work, and 2) sisters being killed is shitty.
>>46839430
>it was the bloodtide
which was never explained in the section. And of course how blood of the pure would help vs that wasn't explained, as that's pretty nonsense even by 40k standards.
>was retconned
So they recognized it was either so stupid, or so poorly explained that it shouldn't be there, just like the people who hate that section have been saying since it was published.
>>46839442
I like to think that the image continues with the GK grabbing the Sister, lifting her above his head and with just one twist squeezing all the blood from her onto his armour. All the while the psyker's just sitting in a corner, trying not to shit himself.
>>46839525
you forgot
3) 'I kill pure people and cover myself in there blood to prevent corruption' sounds fucking stupid.
Even if we accept that they need rituals to prevent corruption, killing the pure and covering yourself in there blood does not sound like a ritual that would do that. You need to spend a while building that sort of thing up, and they did not do that.
>>46839396
>we're never given any reason WHY the blood of the sisters was needed as a talismen of purity
The sisters were ones spares, not killed by the bloodtide. With their blood, the GK were able to just walk through the bloodtide and deal with the daemon controlling it, instead of having to fight the bloodtide every inch of the way. You might be incorruptible, but you're not impervious to damage.
It's all in the piece, if anyone bothered to read it and not go on genital sandpapering spree.
>>46839592
I have 800$ to blow and want to rustle some jimmies, should I buy a War Convocation?
![a66e591f882b2dd006223242f9dba052[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qEjsgrD.jpg "a66e591f882b2dd006223242f9dba052[1].jpg")
>>46839591
that's too bad because they're best bro's.
>>46839662
It's really fun to play for what it's worth.
>>46839687
>Not purging mutant psyker filth
Disgusting.
>>46839592
> killing the pure and covering yourself in there blood does not sound like a ritual that would do that
It exactly fits the theme of martyrdom for both the sisters and Gknights. The specifics behind how the ritual is done means literally nothing, as the only debate is around if it was needed, and it is explicitly outlined in that story and in other fluff that it was.
Also, the Sisters themselves, as was stated, proved immune to the blood tide. Likely, it was one of their own rituals or faith-related things that managed it, which is why they were needed as a basis for the Gknights.
>>46839651
>You might be incorruptible
They aren't though.
>>46839294
>being this new
>being this autistic
>>46839761
>Implying performing Khornate rituals with the corpses of the Emperor's Daughters is okay
>>46839651
no, it's not.
There is a sentence which COULD be interpreted to mean that. Or it could mean a lot of other really stupid things. The sentence isn't clear, and the section around it doesn't make it clear either.
I believe you that this was the INTENT of the section, which is why I think it's shitty writting not an active fucking over of the fluff.
>>46839651
>>46839761
>Sisters are immune to bloodtide because of reasons
>Therefore, the logical thing to do in a bloodtide is kill the only people who are immune and hope bathing in their blood gives you their powers
>>46839741
are you calling the Emperor a piece of mutant psyker filth too anon?
>>46839776
says the anime poster
>>46839821
Khorne: YOUR OFFERING PLEASES ME. YOU MAY PASS.
>>46839847
>on website made by weebs for weebs modeled after a nippon weeb site
>>46839839
he is
>>46839839
Venerate is the one true god anon, god is allowed to have magic.
>>46839761
again, shtty writing.
It might have been meant to be that way, but it wasn't clear that it was.
To put it in another case, you remember that scene in Age of Ultron where it sounds like Black Widow said being sterile makes you a monster? Knowing the writer/director it's pretty clear that wasn't the intent, and you can figure out that the phrase about being a monster wasn't in reference to the bit about being sterile, but to other parts of the conversation, but where the line was sure made it sound like she was saying being sterile made her a monster.
That's what happened here. Ward had an idea, but the way it was laid out didn't make that idea clear and instead made it sound the GK were just fucking over the sisters and acting out of character.
So, could someone explain the story behind this pic >>46837335 ?
>>46839821
>mentions even the most faithful servants can be corrupted on contact
>a rare few prove immune
>knowing that their own number are susceptible to it, they create a talisman of purity from the martyred blood of those few that were immune
>said sisters would have died anyways from the daemons, and the Gknights would be left alone with even fewer of their number after the corruption weeded them out
I bet you also complain when they kill those who were exposed to chaos before chaos can take their souls. I bet you think they should wait for them to lose their souls to chaos and that they should just kill the bodies left behind. Fukkin heretics.
>>46839927
>It might have been meant to be that way, but it wasn't clear that it was.
Read it yourself. Also, I messed up in thinking all the sisters were immune; I forgot that many of them fell on contact regardless of faith and purity. Gknights risked the same, which is why they made the talismans first.
>>46839947
Player tried to null-deploy, other player ran infiltrators up his entire table edge making it impossible to deploy.
Doesn't work with current rules, but used to.
>>46839886
funny how black templar players worship a psyker as a god and yet don't let them into your ranks. Seems quite hypocritical.
>>46839947
Old tournament back in 4th(?), WS holds everything in reserve then Kroot guy infiltrates his entire army in his opponent's deployment (Because theres nothing there) which made it impossible for the WS player to enter the game, therefore he lost the game in the deployment phase.
>>46839975
Adding the full first part of the passage. The Bloodtide started at a basilica, where even the most pure and faithful priests were immediately lost to it.
>>46839807
Sure.
I mean, it says that Sisters are corrupted upon contact, to it seem to be more like Boon of Mutation or some other sort of warping Chaos magic than the slow, methodical corruption of the soul. And the Sisters who didn't succumb to this fought on and were killed via more conventional means. The GK, never a stranger to the weirding ways of Chaos, probably were able to deduce what they needed and the blood of the Sisters that weren't corrupted by the touch of the bloodtide was used as part of the protection, not just pure Sister blood. With this coating they could stride through the bloodtide without getting corrupted by its touch.
It's not a great piece, but that's what I get from it. I think the whole problem is that people assume there's only one form of corruption. Usually when we talk about something getting corrupted we mean the slow turning to Chaos, the darkness growing in you. But you can also get your body corrupted and against that your will doesn't have much to say. You can secure your soul, but you can't fight the warping of your body that the warp energies cause.
>>46839975
>trio of librarians repelling the bloodtide using just normal psyker powers
Then what was the point of the blood bath?
>>46840004
They also respect the GK as they are the only psykers that they are wiling to fight with.
Stupid rules question, but what is the criteria for blast weapons making other weapons snap fire? Like if I add a Havok Launcher to my Chaos Land Raider does it snap its las cannons?
>>46839091
>>46839273
>Defending GK fluff
>Written by his spiritual liege
>>46840096
I think that applies to ordnance, not blast
>>46840087
yeah, but he doesn't know that shhh :^)
>>46840079
Because a trio of librarians cannot kill a world full of daemons while simultaneously forced to repeat only the cants of cleansing? Notice a librarian did not kill Ka'jagga'nath.
Serious question: Do you also complain that the Iron Grimoire is written in the blood of saints?
Is there any info on future Imperial Armour books?
Can I ask a probably stupid question?
New to 40k and I was looking at the 40k rules for the overwatch set, specifically the Genestealer Hybrids.
They have 2 attacks, but also on profile it says
Autopistol, close combat weapon, rending claws.
Is the 2 attacks a combination of all of these items?
>>46839947
This image is literally on my desktop
>>46840143
Written in the blood of saints does not mean 'went on a saint killing spree to write it'.
In a similar way that it would make more sense for the sisters to have given their blood, the saints blood may have come from
>wounds sustained in battle
>freaky stigmata shit
>collected upon death
>>46840143
Well it doesn't say 'written in the blood of saints that the Grey Knights murdered because they didn't want to go refill their normal inkwell' so no.
>>46840222
That story makes me laugh to this day
>>46840143
Are there any more hints about what's down there, or is that really it? "Ooo, it's totally a really serious evil guys."
>>46840222
My favourite part of this is that it's Kroot, some of the worst infantry in the game.
>>46840149
Next up is Red Scorps and AdMech versus Tau for 40k. Prospero is next for 30k.
>>46840235
Or even just drawing their blood and writing the book slowly. No need to drain someone fully. They'll make more.
>>46840208
Are the rending claws a specialist weapon? Will say on their entry.
If not, you get +1 attack for having two close combat weapons, and pistols count as such.
>>46840235
>>46840239
>they don't know
>>46840298
Could, anon. That'd even be logical, assuming time wasn't an issue for writing that warp-tained book. They could have even stockpiled the blood before sitting down to write it in one go. Could have, if it wasn't the grim darkness of the far future.
>>46840295
>Red Scorps and AdMech versus Tau for 40k
Oh boy, I sure look forward to the Red Scorpions and Adeptus Mechanicus being utterly and brutally slaughtered with no survivors by the all powerful and mighty Tau who then proceed to sweep a dozen more sectors in the same book.
Oh boy.
Alright, looking to start a Space Marine army, and I've narrowed it down to three chapters.
The Exorcists, the Imperial Fists, or the Red Hunters.
Which one would you recommend? Which one's chapter tactics are more fun, as well as which one(s) are easier to paint?
>>46840277
Cheap, mass infantry can be a really useful tool to have in your toolbox. Especially when they can infiltrate.
>>46840295
Good for Ad Mech, but Tau again? Really?
Why not Dark Eldar or Genestealer Cults?
>>46840310
Not sure, it's under their wargear
>>46840367
Because the Tau stuff in this release is the giant gundams Forgeworld has already made the models of.
>>46840387
Then you have base attacks +1 for dual CCW, as you have a CCW, pistol (which also counts) and the rending claws (which are also CCWs)
3 base, 4 on the charge. Good times
>>46840387
They have 2+1 attacks.
>>46840367
Anon, there's been like three releases without any Tau. It's not fair for Tau to be ignored while every other faction gets all sorts of OP new toys. Did you even see the new Crimson Slaughter formations? They get respawning Possessed AND the ability to cast Prescience with a Chaos Lord. Chaos Lords aren't even psykers, Anon. How can Tau be expected to compete with such unmitigated power creep?
>>46840421
>>46840427
Thanks!
>>46840353
Red Hunters have pretty versatile tactics, which can be rather interesting to work with.
Imperial Fists tactics are straightforward, but make some otherwise meh options much more viable, such as heavy bolters. That extra variety is nice.
Exorcists get to choose tactics at the start of each fight, so hypothetically you could get the best of both worlds with them.
Disclaimer: I may have gotten Exorcists and Red Hunters mixed up
>>46840430
>>46840358
Especially when they can snipe as well.
70 points for 10 infiltrating snipers? That's a very nice deal.
Only way they could be better is if they could get Shotgun rounds and actually assault things.
>>46840430
Why must you twist the blade and rub salt on my fresh wounds?
>>46840443
>Exorcists get to choose tactics at the start of each fight,
No, they don't. They get to choose when you normally choose your Chapter Tactics; during army creation.
>>46840387
>>46840208
You choose a weapon to make all the attacks with, usually choosing the best weapon against the particular unit you are fighting. In your case, the rending claws will always be the best (they will make 3 attacks with rending claws, actually. 2 because A2, +1 due to having 2 or more melee weapons (CCW, Rending Claws, Pistol). If they charge, they'll have 4 attacks with one weapon.
A better example showcasing this is the Dark Eldar Demiklaives. The two blades can be used separately (for +1 attack due to 2 melee weapons, but only AP5) or combined into a single big-ass klaive for AP2 attacks. You can't mix and match your attacks because 1, that would screw up on counting how many attacks you have, and 2, because it would be too difficult to try to recombine the blades in the middle of swinging.
>>46840387
Don't hybrids hit harder than actual stealers when considering the point cost and assault grenades?
>>46840430
Spoiler alert: there's nothing new for Tau in this book. Its the 2 Riptide variants and the supremacy armor that we've seen for months.
This is more an Ad Mech book than anything else, and I think they've earned it.
>>46839975
>needing a talismen of purity
Why?
oh sure, you can come up with reasons why, but you have to draw from sections further way.
Hell, the 'the bloodtide was nanotech' sure as fuck isn't in there. It sounds like the name of the bloodthirsters host.
And it certainly sounds like being immune to the corruption could be caused by sufficient faith, because why else are the sisters immune. Or was it supposed to be that they were just lasting longer (again, not said in piece).
Again. I can see where it can be interpreted as you think it is, and it probably was intended to be that way. Now I'm just waiting for you to admit it's real easy to read that exact same thing and come to a different intepretation, and thus shit writting.
In addition to the other bits that make it shit writting
>>46840472
Right. Didn't mean to imply that it let you tailor upon seeing the enemy force. Just meant that it let's you justify switching between tactics for different lists.
>>46840457
Clearly someone isn't up to date with their releases. I bet you didn't even see the Hounds of Abaddon formation. They get free Marks of Khorne! Free! How many Tau formations give you free upgrades? IA15 better be spectacular, because Tau just can't compete with this level of discounting and synergy.
>>46840494
Assault grenades can be used in combat? I thought they just removed initiative penalty for cover
>>46840358
Old tau player here
You know what makes the kroot great?
It's not the infiltration
Nor is it their improved save in forests
Its related to their sniper rounds
Not that they have them, but that they are 4 markerlights away from having BS 5 ignores cover sniper rifles.
I have run 80 sniper kroot before. By the gods the tears were amazing. I had no riptides, just a few melta suits and support skyrays, plus 3 squads of pathfinders and some other stuff.
The feel when you completely blast your opponent off the table turn one and aren't using any of the "Broken" units...
>>46840494
Half the cost too...
>>46840529
Please stop, it hurts.Like the Sisters hurt when GK butchered them like cattle.
>>46840496
Yeah, it must be rough getting multiple, powerful books full of comepetively priced units and amazing and synergistic formations. I don't know how AdMech players keep going when Games Workshop neglects them so.
>>46840595
SNAP
>>46840601
Considering they've had to wait since the entire run of the game to get ANY rules? Yeah, they're entitled to a bit of catch-up
>>46840534
>4 rending WS4 attack/model at I4
>3 WS6 rending at I1
Which is better considering one is half the cost of anotherand it isn't the one with WS6...?
>>46840595
No, Anon, I won't stop until everyone acknowledges that Tau are long overdue for an update. I mean, Jesus, have you seen Waagh Ghazkull?! Constant Waagh, 2++ saves, autohitting I10 attacks. It's miraculous that Tau players do as well they do when they're forced to use such poorly armed units as the Riptide.
>>46840517
>Now I'm just waiting for you to admit it's real easy to read that exact same thing and come to a different intepretation, and thus shit writting.
>In addition to the other bits that make it shit writting
You're 100% right here. They do not specify why some sisters are immune. They don't even specify why some sentient ai nontech suddenly became daemon tech, under Lord of the Bloodtide. I agree that it is shit writing too. I won't justify any of that.
My only real point is the one I originally made in >>46839525 - Grey Knights are not 100% immune to corruption. They are immune by preparation, ritual, and intensive purification after every battle. In a plague where even the faithful were being instantly corrupted, and they don't specify why a few of the miracle-working sisters could be immune (yet others not), there is a lot of vague interpretation to be had. Knowing that GKnights CAN be corrupted, and that they must make rituals in extreme circumstances to prevent it, and that this is an extreme circumstance where the faithful are falling, it makes sense why they'd need the talisman - slaughtering sisters or not. But it is both vague and contrived, considering some of the sisters unspecified immunity.
I just wish they had fully expanded on the passage and given their reasons, rather than catering the to the massive backlash that was built around "totally incorruptible" assumptions and rewriting it as so.At the very least, they could have just specified that the sisters willingly martyred themselves, knowing they couldn't beat the daemons anyways.
>>46839393
Don't we have a supplement for genestealer cults?
I have been looking around for it, but I can't seem to find it in the mega. What is it called?
>>46838789
shit yeah. pity inonly care about/want a couple of them.
>>46840443
I was looking at the characters for the Red Hunters and Exorcists, but I noticed that the Exorcists have this awesome one named Silas Alberec, yet the Red Hunters have none.
I suppose it would make sense, fluff wise, since the Red Hunters regularly undergo mind wipes.
Though, since the Red Hunters have their own chapter tactics, wouldn't that mean that they can't take any of the named characters? Also, their rule that states that they're battle brothers with Sisters and GK, but only if they have an inquisitor with them doesn't really make sense, why can't their rule just state that they're Battle Brothers with all of them anyways? It seems like it would be less convuluted.
And the opposite as well, since the Exorcists can use any Chapter Tactic, wouldn't that mean that they could swap out different Named Characters depwnding on their lists' current chapter tactics?
Does anybody here have a 1500 point knight army?
>>46840496
>>46840295
Any news on when this book actually releases?
It feels like it's been an eternity since the rough information of it's contents came out, but nothing since then.
>>46840949
It's posted on the GW site for free. Just google it.
>>46840974
The SoB/GK thing is from 6e when not all Imperial armies were Battle Brothers, so you can basically disregard it.
Exorcists I believe don't get other chapter's special characters just by using their tactics, though I could be wrong on that.
That would mean that their special character could easily have whichever tactics you choose though.
>>46840999
I'm picking up two knights tomorrow, but they'll be my first and I'll be converting the renegade one blatantly enough that they obviously won't be the same army.
>>46840999
No but I'm thinking
Baronial Court (1500)
Warlord Knight-Gallant w/ Ironstorm + Helm of the nameless Champion = 385
Knight-Warden w/ TL Icarus autocannons= 410
Knight-Paladin w/ Melta Gun= 380
Knight-Gallant= 325
I love knights for the fluff and purposefully tried to make a list that wasn't insanely OP so I can use them as a main army without auto-winning. I basically chose the options I thought looked cool for when I assemble mine, but I'm open to suggestion if there's anything I can do to make the list fair but also somewhat effective.
>>46841204
>All Questoris
Booooo.
Single unit army list, arm swaps don't count.
>>46841204
That looks pretty fair! You really think knights are an autowin? I always figured that a list packing enough anti-armour would table them without much difficulty
Their fluff is the best though
>>46841171
I really don't like the renegade. Just the aesthetics of it seem off to me.
>>46841227
You don't count! They're different units.
>>46841235
>I really don't like the renegade. Just the aesthetics of it seem off to me.
It's a paintjob anon. It's the same Knight.
>>46841272
but the paint job makes it a different knight
>>46841227
>Cheapest Cerastus costs more than two Questoris
No duh.
>>46841262
>Entire army fits on a single page as a single unit
>"Different units"
Three squads of berserkers in rhinos with havok launchers costs 666 points exactly.
>>46840734
okay, so we basically agree.
That section is write up there in the list of fluff where I wish i could have the editors pen and get it fixed. It could have been good. Instead it was crap.
The worst is Path of the Warrior.
Write the section in the warmask in a different stacker style. Keep the reflection on the enemies he faces for after he's taken off the mask. Set up him thinking about those times as dangerous as it can get him lost on the path.
Last battle he saves the day, but when he takes of the mask don't switch writing style. He's lost. Present becoming an exarch like funeral from the perspective of others. It's tragedy, not a triumph.
>>46841320
>He can't convert longer legs and a pair of variant weapons
>>46841334
anon, I reccomend that you quarter a potato and throw it in your pockets; it'll help absorb some of the salt
![rambo%20original[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/8ibfySW.gif "rambo%20original[1].gif")
>>46841337
Too bad Khorne's sacred number is 8. Praise Slaanesh.
>>46838280
wow, someone remembered my edit which features maybe a couple thousand guardsman. i wonder if someone has the Christmas edition as well
>>46841420
> Four squads of berserkers in rhinos with havok launchers costs 888 points exactly.
>>46841235
They are pretty much what draws me to 40k haha. I have a few pages of fluff for House Argyle, which is the house I invented. Thinking dark green for the main color with bone or parchment as the secondary, gold trim, and red for where the imperial livery will go. Anyone have a lot of experience with the kit and wanna share a few tips with a noob before my Renegade box comes in?
>>46841375
Are you actively getting butthurt about this? I wasn't even outright trolling, just phrasing "I wouldn't take an army list with zero variety, especially when FW added some variety" in an asshole on the internet tone.
>>46838237
How come there is a cult mechanicus guy, but no Skitarii guy.
Or eldar corsairs guy
>>46841471
I do like the Forgeworld Knights, and in my fluff the leader of my house has a Cerastus-Atrapos suit. Maybe one day I'll get one, but Forgeworld doesn't seem all to accessible right now.
>>46837915
Off-boarder here.
Who is the greatest cuck in 40k?
>>46841509
>How come there is a cult mechanicus guy, but no Skitarii guy
>Pretending those are seperate armies rather than a weirdly organised army
>>46841528
Goge Vandire
>>46841122
...GW's page here: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-CA/What's-New-Today-from-the-White-Dwarf-Team/2016/03/07/Genestealer-Cult-Rules
...Links to the DeathWatch rules.
Games Workshop, everyone.
>>46841528
/pol/ pls go
>>46840222
god, the white scars guy looks like such a fucking dong, its wonderful
>>46841519
>Atrapos Baron
Nice. Give him Mark of the Omnissiah for two chances to regain hull points.
>>46841528
the emperor
>>46841528
Horus
![489px-Plymouth_Argyle_F.C._logo.svg[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/XdGy6qR.png "489px-Plymouth_Argyle_F.C._logo.svg[1].png")
>>46841468
>House Arygle
>Dark Green
... is your Knightly House Plymouth Argyle in the grim darkness of the far future?
Also http://www.spikeybits.com/2015/10/magnetizing-a-knight-titan.html
>>46841528
You
>>46841554
>>46841578
>>46841585
Please exprain.
>>46841626
Vandire's girlfriend spent 10 minutes with the emperor and then summarily executed him
Would taking a single flier at 1000 pts make me a faggot?
>>46841588
>http://www.spikeybits.com/2015/10/magnetizing-a-knight-titan.html
Why'd he magnetise the waist? My understanding from seeing locals transport them is that the kit holds together in the middle just fine without glue or magnets.
>>46841528
OOGA BOOKA WHER DA SHITPOSTERS AT???
(fuck you btw, gb2/pol/)
>>46841588
>Plymouth Argyle
Haha no, I'm an American but i just looked that up on google and that's hilarious. I do like the ship though, maybe I could write in a nautical element to my house, and use more of a sea green...
>>46841672
No, that's the exact point where it becomes acceptable.
Bringing the complication of fliers sub-1000 or more than one to handle at 1000 is kinda dickish though.
>>46841672
no, that is a standard casaul house rule. 1 flyer per 1000
>>46838389
conscripts vs boyz in a nutshell
>>46841648
I love perspective.
>>46841711
>>46841714
Thanks m8s. I playCraftworld Saim-Hannso I have to be extra careful of faggotry, and I'm still a newfag.
>>46841686
When you have many magnets, everything looks like it needs magnetisation.
My manager reckons the same, although some people put sandpaper or something in the joint to give more resistance to toppling.
>>46841557
>Hello, we’re some Acolyte Hybrids. We’re proper good at duffing things up in close combat, delivering punches up the bracket with gusto.
...
>>46841761
The over polite and posh language is the joke.
It's just not very funny.
>>46838191
The Ork Buggy kit has a multi-melta in it as a weapon option. The current buggy rules (in fact the previous rules too) do not allow a multi-melta to be taken.
So GeeDubs just added a load more 'bundles' that don't seem to save you any money, for some reason...
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Space-Marines-Heavy-Armour
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Space-Marines-Aerial-Support
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/The-Legion-of-the-Damned-bundle
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/1st-Company-Veterans
![gallery_79873_10492_6378[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ypbXBDZ.jpg "gallery_79873_10492_6378[1].jpg")
bout to buy a xiphon interceptor. god someone stop me..
>>46841857
Are they formations or something?
>>46841672
personally I think it depends on which flyer it actually is. For example Ork Flyers could easily be acceptable 1 every 500-750 points, however stronger ones are usually around the 1k mark.
>>46841557
Links to the rules for all of them, if you'd scroll down.
>>46841893
CHYNA?
>>46840222
Holy shit GREATER GOOD
ASTARTES BTFO
>>46841893
Got you covered, bro.
>>46841899
It's a Crimson Hunter and from what I've read they're supposed to be top tier, at least for killing other air. I haven't actually bought the model yet though.
>>46841557
>mfw
>>46841906
yeah chyna ebay. not a recast.
>>46841895
Nope.
>>46840734
>>46841359
fuck it just occured to me that having the sisters martyr themselves would also have solved the problem of the sisters and their blood was immune and the GK weren't.
Have a reference to the librarian rembering a tome that stats 'the blood of matryrs of the purest faith' is anathema to the Bloodtide. The sisters who lived had faith enough to resist for a time, but felt the corruption seaping in Seeing that even the the faith of those sisters was not enough, the GK knew that Bloodtide could corrupt even them.
Thus the covering themselves in the sisters blood thing. Fuck, it's like 4 sentences.
>>46841977
yeah that should be about 1k-1250 and id warn your opponent you have a flyer
>>46841857
>https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Space-Marines-Heavy-Armour
Shit, Salamander, what you doing?
>>46841992
>Chinese ebay
>Not a recast
w-what
or does chyna mean something else?
>>46842016
sorry I meant 'is a recast'. Idk why I typed 'not.' It's good quality though.
>>46841909
>implying a Kroot suit riot isn't coming your way
>>46842001
>anon fixes Bloodtide in 4 sentences
>>46841977
having played a little with mine, they are pretty good.
Vector dancer is great, and they fuck fliers, though if you're facing multiple flies they can get fucked on the crack back. I think having vector dancer and fucking with movement and firing arcs is how you win there, but I'm still learning.
Outside that, they're pretty good at anti-vehicle and anti-elite, but 4 shots means they are kinda bad anti-infantry, and most super elites have good cover and invuln saves. But still good enough you don't feel like you're down 160 pts against a list with no fliers.
>>46842015
and so the cuckening begins
>>46840222
Do no white scar units have out flank?
>word bearers are great fighters!
>lost calth
>>46841227
If that's true power-armor is spread across like 7 codexes
>>46841557
>...Links to the DeathWatch rules.
deathwatch and cult are in the same pdf
you fuckin dunce
>>46842155
It was a tourney were you couldn't take named characters, so no, he couldn't do that
>>46842001
The worst part is how well that fits. It doesn't even say the immune sisters are immune. It says
>Those who endure
>>46842155
At least an edition ago, friend.
>>46842186
>Implying /40kg/ doesn't complain about this at least every other general
>>46841134
Actually, according to the rules for chapter's with unknown primogenitor/homebrew, you can use characters with x chapter tactic as a stand in for x character, or at keast from what I remember.
So theoretically, the Exorcists can use any SM character, though, only ones with the corresponding chapter tactics that they are currently using.
Which means that the Red Hunters can use 0 named characters.
>>46842173
>ultramarines are ultra
>got beat up by word bearers
god damn it i wish celestians had a relevant fucking act of faith
>>46842155
Outflank wasn't even a thing back then.
>>46842173
>prevented the Ultramarines from reaching Terra in time
>purged their own legion of undesirables
>took out close to half of the Ultamarines with them
You gotta judge it by their own desired outcomes, sillybilly.
>>46842107
Alright cool, that sounds good. I think I'll pull the trigger on this one then. Thanks.
>>46842298
>Thinks they're playing kill points rather than objectives
>Is shocked when they lose
>>46842283
Well, as long as we acknowledge it I guess
Knight errant (the one with sword and fist) with a melta and storm spear carapace gun to pop transports and charge the occupants, good idea or bad idea?
