Why aren't you playing a Shield Knight?
>>46834175
Shield Champion in PF actually
It's pretty awesome so far, but mostly because GM banned full casters and summoners
>>46834175
>Playing a Sword and Board knight in DnD
>Ambushed in a tower fight against Drow, knocked out by the poison
>Rogue manages to drag me away and get me back on my feet with antivenom
>can't get to sword
>Grab my shield and begin to batter my way through the Drow
Almost considering to drop the sword entirely
>>46834175
Because the game is called Shovel Knight
>>46834175
Because the DM ruled that if I use the shield as an improvised weapon to bash someone in the skull then I don't get it's bonus to AC. Also, I can't kick as an unarmed attack while holding things. And even if I could, I'd only do 1+mod damage because I didn't take monk levels
So I have a silver longsword with my shield
>>46834311
This is why you carry two shields.
>>46834311
>Because the DM ruled that if I use the shield as an improvised weapon to bash someone in the skull then I don't get it's bonus to AC
Odd, according to 5e and the devs, even if you hit with a shield you don't lose the AC, your GM seems to be shitting you
>>46834388
Got sauce on that claim? My store is filled with shitters who don't know the rules. They let you twin EB.
>>46834416
Losing shield ac if you use it to bash is a thing in 3.pf, might be people assuming rules carry over
>>46834175
Because a man with a shield has to be lucky all the time. A man with a sword only has to be lucky once.
Sure, the man with the sword will look stupid for a while, but eventually the man with the shield will look stupid FOREVER.
>>46834311
Dm's the last arbiter of rules but theres nothing to say you lose shield bonus.
>>46834416
You can't twin EB but you can still cast two of them with another metamagic which name I can't remember, accelerated? quickened?
>>46834416
http://www.sageadvice.eu/tag/improvised/
>>46834476
Yeah quickened makes it a bonus action
>>46834505
>http://www.sageadvice.eu/tag/improvised/
>explicitely points out it screws up with the Dueling feature of Fighter
>Doesn't explain
>>46834540
The Sage Advice compendium and anyone who asks about Dueling with Sword and Board says it's ok. So I would assume that it is all good. The +2 would go to the weapon attack and you only get d4 damage, which will be next to nothing beyond level 4. So I say go for it and just attack cause why not.
>>46834175
i did and it was fun
>>46834641
I'ma battlemaster fighter, I can Fear someone with that offhand effect, or trip them
>>46834175
becauseforever DM
Kite, Round, or Tower?
Single or Dual?
>inb4 Targe
Pic related
>>46835528
Dual Towers
Become the wall
>>46835137
Yeah, so it would be for anyone who doesn't have a bonus action for free damage.
Technically cause it's a "weapon", you could go two weapon fighter and add your Str to the hit. D8+3 + d4+3 + 2 AC sounds pretty good.
>>46836053
>the wall
...can one shield bash with towershields?
>>46834175
Because of how Eric was written.
>>46836508
Anything is possible for The Wall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrBo5cg0BAs
>>46836508
>>46836791
>doesn't post the origianl from >>46836053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55ANN_2qU0QAnd memezaki didn't even bring them back in Dark Souls 3.
>>46836890
Can I get double the AC bonus if I dual wield shields?
>>46836942
http://www.sageadvice.eu/2015/08/14/wielding-two-shields/
Developers say no.
>>46837208
boooo
Nofunallowed.mp4 and all that.
Someone homebrew a dnd 3.x class whos whole concept is to wield a shield/2+ shields
>>46837208
Sage advice is one of the worst things that ever happened to D&D.
Why is it even a thing?
>>46837208
Fun > Rules
>>46837247
>>46837365
It's literally right in the text about shields.
In any case, when I'm playing a knight, my duty is to protect my charge at all costs. My body is their shield, and my armor is mine. Sometimes I'll use a shield and sword, other times my hand is occupied by their arm so I can keep them in place to bash them longer. At other times still, it's best to use a far-reaching weapon to keep them from approaching us at all.
>>46837365
>>46837208
They also are inconsisten as fuck
For example shields, your shield hand is useless, basically like having a stump once you grab the shield, so you can't use crossbow/shield and stuff...BUT if you're a divine caster you can use your shield hand to perform whatever somatic component you want. And like this tons of other stuff that can be summed up to "this is like a videogame, you can't jump here because we say so, but you can jump there because we say so".
>>46837543
rules are stupid.
If a shield gives +2 to your ac then it is only natural that two shields would give +4 to ac. It just makes sense
>>46837543
>pic
Alright, so what we need is to find something that can be held in the other hand and used defensively but is (at least technically) not a shield. Any ideas?
>>46837605
This, if I put 10 full plate armors I should have 180 AC.
>>46837658
yeah.
You wouldn't be able to move.. but you would be untouchable. somehow.
Why is it that equiping armor makes you harder to hit? wouldn't it make more sense to give damage reduction (and be easier to hit because of the weight?)
>>46837658
>implying
It's a thing in real life.
Why shouldn't it be a thing in D&D?
>>46837605
>If I put on 2 layers of full plate armor I get twice the +8 AC, right?
>>46837640
>>46837732
Because D&D is not a simulator of real life.
>>46837247
>>46837365
Well on the other hand D&D is all about making up your own rules if you don't agree, the DMH has a bunch of stuff about substituting effects for other benefits
As a DM if you really wanted to have two shields I would say go ahead, you'll get 4 AC and only d4s unless we start talking feats. You'll do no damage early on and then almost negative damage later into the game but 20 base AC at level 1 can be cool.
