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>>46802465
>Where can I find the rules?
http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?topic=5203.0
>What the FUCK? What rules books do I actually need?
http://pastebin.com/6AGsum1s
(Short version: 2007 edition of the rulebook, 2010 Update, and Armada)
Revised is a set of fan-rules, written almost entirely by a Dark Eldar player. It shows.
>Where can I find physical miniatures to use/proxy with?
http://pastebin.com/jC96JeMV (But we always need more - Feel free to chip in with others you've found in-thread)
Also looking for more non-GW minis suitable for running boarding party games.
>Paper ship Proxies:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/h6zp53
http://imgur.com/a/MhFcj
>Boarding action rules
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Warhammer_40000/Zone_Mortalis_Expansion.pdf
See the physical models link for some appropriate options for Navy troops
>Tactics and strategy resources for tabletop
Marine Tactica underway.
AdMech tactica: http://pastebin.com/YSrAf9f7
>BFG:Armada beta is now live
>Battleflee/tg/othic Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/bfgtg
>Anon is hosting a campaign, you can find the forums and info here:
http://tg-gothiccampaign.freeforums.net/board/1/general-discussion
Application deadline is the 25th
How did the campaign AI get so fucked up?
First for the imperial navy!
>>46820872
At least the cutscenes art is eye-gasmic.
Also Eldar are a nightmare
>>46820872
What's going on that's so bad. For me everything has been working alright so far. AI isn't suicidal but they aren't kicking my ass in either, which is as it should be for normal difficulty.
What's the appeal of PvP vs AI in this game? I'm terrible at RTSs and playing skirmish is fun until you hit 8 and there are basically no incentives to keep playing, but I don't want to get smashed and deathspiral'd in MP.
Also how does cogitator work? Playing eldar without it seems like it would be a clusterfuck. If only you could select mission points so you can just have 2 or 3 ships.
>>46820907
Cutscenes are real Lore porn.
>inquisitor in ye olde pointy hat investigating heresy
>Sisters last stand against Slaaneshi demons
FORTEEN ORKS ON A HUMIE SHIP
>Blockage mission
>This might be fun
>mfw 20 mins of chasing a Chaos ship throughout the map as it whittles down the defense platforms slowly with its flyers
Now I understand why people hate Chaos
>>46820920
Press space bar to cogitator.
MP is fun because you can have salt from human players.
Also, human players can be either harder or easier than A.I opponents.
>>46820927
>Sisters last stand against Slaaneshi demons
The fanfics are writing themselves!
>>46820920
Just play MP anon. It's a lot of fun, the matches are quite quick and there is some kind of hidden MMR so if you are not very good you shouldn't play too much against people who are.
Deathspirals aren't really a thing until you hit the higher ranks and are constantly given 600 or 700 point games. For ranks 1-4 they don't really exist.
Fuck that I aint playing until they fix the AI having stupid amount of points even on normal. barely get one battle cruiser, two cruisers and one light against chaos that somehow gets 6 heavy ships and shitloads of escorts
>>46820927
You mean lore rape. Wa
>Preventing Abaddon from getting the Hand of Darkness and the Eye of Night
>Killing the Eldar instead of allying with them
>stopping Abaddon from destroying the Tarantis system
The only surprise was that the end resultdid not differ from the canon one.
>>46821026
Thankfully they get a hot load of cyclic torpedo on them couple seconds later
>>46820919
Silent Running doesn't do anything.
>>46821026
>fat daemonette
>Keeper of Secrets squirting milk all over them
I was like what the fuck? Was it all necessary, devs?
Oh please glorious moddurator dont give me a ban for this
How bad are the Eldar really? I haven't played in a while and only in skirmish mode. Will my flagship Barrius Blanche get wrecked once I get it back?
>>46821069
If it makes you feel that way it's probably lore accurate.
are horrifically long load times on startup and crashes every 10 minutes or so just my problem or is anyone else having it?
>>46821150
I have the long initial load time too but ctds are very infrequent for me.
I like that the campaign uses the maps of Gothic Sector from the actual rulebook too.
mfw the chaos ship with data warps out the exact second I destroy it.
Ironman is a real bitch sometimes.
>>46821080
>That fat daemonette
Jesus Christ how horrible!
>>46821423
The one on the left? I don't think that's fat, more phat. She just got booty.
>>46820947
GRUNTIN' AT EECHUVVER
>>46821423
>No thick an' fertile daemonette gifted to you from Slaanesh
>No happy family of half daemon abominations to fill your home
I just want to experience the life of a family man.
Post your /campaign music/.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fpscxE9WDk
>>46821619
>First Data recovery mission
>I grab the data, burn out, activate warp
>Chaos ship manages to grab the data RIGHT as my ship jumps out
>Mission fail
FUUUUUUUUUCK
>>46821660
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whxcq4I0kAo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0uBU5ddX4U
>>46821619
Slaneesh just want's you to feel good
>>46821828
>>46821042
You do realize you can change the course of the Campaign right?
Having to start new admirals made me realise just how much fun the imperial light cruisers are. It's a shame I can never find a use for them in larger point battles and they always end up being gibbed by a battlecruiser.
>>46821828
I know that feeling.
>>46821660
I find the soft music of Chopin suits my annihilation of the enemy.
https://youtu.be/6OFHXmiZP38
>>46821835
I'm hoping at some point soon someone is going to make a video of them doing nothing but ramming the fuck out ships as the orks set to the second song you linked there. It needs to happen.
>>46822265
Classical is the right idea, but more bombastic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCct_tSQ8WY
>Playing orks
>data recovery vs Eldar
>ohboyherewego
>They disable every system on my ships except boarding torpedoes
>actually manage to steal the data
>gets stolen back before I can warp
>Eldar warps out 2 seconds later
Anyone else having issues when launching? Mine launches as the rear-most window, and I can't tab over to it. Running fullscreen in the settings.
>>46822615
Have you tried waiting until it boots up? Mine often does that, but swaps over properly once it finishes loading the main menu.
>>46822615
Great. Just got minimised and couldn't tab back in. Relaunched, only to have lost a full turn's progress. FIX YOUR GAME BEFORE YOU FUCKING RELEASE IT.
>>46822600
The Eldar refuse to let Orks get anything nice. News at 11.
>>46822600
Space elves being faggots once again
I have yet to ever stop a ship from warping out with a boarding action. Is there a particular subsystem I'm supposed to be targeting?
>>46822871
Generator
>>46822871
it's just a RNG roll, blowing the generator does make warp jump take longer though.
>Losing every match
>Completely losing hope at this point before the matches even start
>Still want to grind to 8 for the Battleship
chaos is suffering
I really really like this game but it can be insanely unforgiving.
I've yelled at my PC so many times, not just for the crashes meaning I had to babysit that inquisitor four times over.
>>46822897
>>46822916
Why not Engine?
>>46822641
This issue didn't crop up in the Beta.
The problem is they did a patch just for release and must've fucked some shit up.
>>46822997
cuz it's just an engine.
Assassination against Orks in the campaign is fucking ridiculous.
The AI point advantage completely fucks you as the IN
>>46822997
Engine for motive power in realspace, generator for warp, where relative velocity doesn't matter and only gellar fields do.
>>46822997
The thrusters on the back of the ship play no part in tearing a hole in real space into the Immaterium.
I really like how some of the upgrades are more faction specific now.
>>46823153
But wouldn't the ship just sit there in the Warp without its engine?
>>46822651
Every game I get is against fucking orks.
Can easily win every time by just kiting their ships and sending in bombers, but I feel bad so I just send my ships in to their doom half the time.
>>46823222
Why would physics matter in the warp, famalam?
>>46823305
>Can easily win every time by just kiting their ships and sending in bombers, but I feel bad so I just send my ships in to their doom half the time
I get that way too.
>>46823321
Because wouldn't you still need to go forward in the Warp?
>>46823321
Because the gellar field drags a bubble of real space physics into the warp along with your ship.
>>46823358
Warp engines and real space engines do different things but they both move the ship.
>>46823358
>Because wouldn't you still need to go forward in the Warp?
You don't seem to understand the nature of the Warp.
>>46823408
To be fair, no one does
>>46823408
But if Gellar Fields are bubbles of reality that means you should be able to go forward in the Warp.
Do you need to do the urgent missions as soon as possible? I've only got two deployments per turn and I have two urgent missions and a couple of orks and traitors attacking my planets.
Is there anything more satisfying than crippling an Eldar shitbucket and then ramming it to pieces? I think not.
Though a massed Nova Cannoning on clumped enemies that manages to hit is orgasm inducing.
>>46823444
What, go forward and leave the Gellar field? That sounds like a great idea, Einstein.
>>46823701
I find blowing out the engines of ork ships to be more satisfying.
>>46823761
Now that's just cruel
So is there no way to invite a friend to a game? I have to try my luck at randomly playing with him?
>That mission where you have to defend Hand of Darkness.
Is this shit even possible?
The defense target always dies on the 3rd wave. I have seen up to seven chaos ships spawn and attack it.
>>46823851
i just did the mission anon, rememeber, ram the fuck.
5 light chaos escorts?
5 ram targets
2 larger chaos ships?
2 larger ram targets.
>>46823851
You have to literally make a protective wall out of your own ships around it. No flying around, just static gunning.
>missions force you to split your deployment points with computer "allies"
Oh god, this makes easy shit nearly impossible.
>>46823851
I just did it first go not two minutes ago. I was even using a Dictator.
I stasis bombed the clusters of escorts and let the Retribution tear them apart with its lances while I chased the cruisers and light cruisers liberally applying torpedoes and ramming.
Any idea of how many planets lost at any one time is good/bad.
I'm on turn 16 with 13planets lost on ironman hard.
I blame the orks.
Do each of the races get their own campaign or is it just the Imperials?
>>46823994
Each race did not fight their own Gothic War.
>planetary assault at the start of act 2
>300 points
>take 2 dauntless light cruisers and a pair of firestorms.
>split my ships to cover ground
>AI takes gothic cruiser and assortment of escorts
>watch as AI escorts get blown to shreds
>AI cruiser takes out a platform and just sort of drifts down the middle, doing nothing
>I boost all over the fucking place to get the bombardment locations, while also killing a few escorts
Then the computer rubs salt in the would and gives half the renown to shitlord spasmodicus.
Oh well, at least the inquisitor babysitting one was fun. It certainly ramps up the difficulty having to put up with daft AI though.
How's everybody else doing? I'm on turn 8 and so far I've only lost one fight, narrowly missing out on killing that Eldar prick.
>>46823851
Taunt and ram, my friend, taunt and ram
>SM strike cruiser shows up in missions with space marine allies
Neat.
>Playing Eldar against IN AI
>Nova Cannon kills 4 hemlocks cause I stopped paying attention for a moment
Don't bunch up if they might have an NC. Gotcha. Lesson learnt.
>>46823851
You don't have to kill the third wave, just keep it at bay for like a minute and the Retribution will warp out. Doable if you managed to kill the first two waves quickly so the Ret still has a lot of health left. Then just throw some ships either way to throw the incoming waves into dissarray (and ram some escorts to death) and you'll get it done.
>>46824178
Mine brough a Dauntless and an Overlord and actualy did semi-decent job holding down two heretic cruisers while my two cruisers murdered a Hellbringer and a bunch of escorts and defense plattform on a jolly romp between nuking some more heretics off the face of the planet.
>>46822933
God what are you doing, I have won every match that didn't have eldar as defender in cruiser clash( you can never catch them so they auto win)
Just spam hellbringers, and use assault boats targeting generators.
>>46824856
Take me a screenshot of your loadout
so since plasma macro batteries have been changed, is the overlord actually decent or is mars still the greatest
>>46824856
Or you could just kite at 12ks with all of those wonderful lance weapons.
i'm not good at this game bros
>>46825212
What are you having trouble with anon?
Having too much fun in MP. running around with a buddy both playing orks, hilarity and winning every damn game.
>>46825232
my ships keep exploding. I have trouble with micro. my feet hurt
>>46825269
How I feel at least part of the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85t3aLQzTsI
>>46825269
Stop using a standing desk, put your feet up. Elevate body parts that are in pain or at risk of swelling, that's pretty elementary, anon.
wHY the fuck don't the weapon tooltips show you the optimal range?
Anyone got a screenshot of Mark of Tzeetch?
I really don't want to make my Battleship Slaanesh, but it mechanically seems the best, and I can't convince myself to skip optimal things mechanically unless it's aesthetically pleasing
(Wow, the irony)
>>46825376
I don't know, being able to teleport your battleship halfway across the map seems pretty powerful.
>>46823358
>Because wouldn't you still need to go forward in the Warp?
Does a piece of corn need engines to move from your mouth, through your stomach, down your intestines and out of your ass?
Does the corn sometimes look intact but sometimes get all mashed in with poo?
That's how warp travel works, sonny.
>>46825376
Tzeentch honestly looks the best m8
intricate and interesting design without sticking random shit all over the place like the other marks
>>46825376
Steam community hub screenshot tab is a good place to find picks of the favours.
>>46825376
>not putting Nurgle on every ship and never being successfully boarded
Should I save up my points early game or go for a cruiser immediately? Which escorts are best? I like the lance ones.
>>46825516
If you win every game you won't have to worry about points
>>46825485
>>46825465
Man that looks good
>>46825465
>The Especially Angry
fuck chaos
fuck eldar
I dont enjoy kiting slowly for 10 minutes
>>46825802
>what is taunt
>what are stasis bombs
>what are torpedoes
>what are gas clouds
>what are asteroid fields
>what is running silent
>3 boarding runs on a fleeing chaos CL
>none of them succeed
Just fuck my ass Abaddon
>>46825485
Are those hands?
>>46825919
>Where we're going we don't need engines to claw through the warp
>>46824975
The Overlord is decent now IMO, but both it and the Mars cover two rather different niches, so it really depends on your overall fleet composition which one makes more sense.
>>46824975
I'd still take the Mars first just for that nova to fuck Eldar shit up.
why the fuck didn't the Imperium invest in turreted warhips?
>>46826050
You can only fit so many slaves into a gallery.
Aww, one and a half months till space marines are available.
Anyone else got 2 ships with the same name yet?
>>46826074
Chaos can.
Chaos knows how to get creative with slaves.
>3rd game, eldar vs eldar
>both have 2 solaris
>I alpha one of his, he taunts and kills one of mine
>we skirt around each other and I'm up about 100 hp
>he rams me, we both explode, "VICTORY"
Eldar confirmed retard race
>>46826261
>Dying race, every Eldar life is extra precious
>Super advanced
>Puts actual living warriors on their ships instead of fucking automated defense turrets
Yes, yes they are.
>>46826050
Because everything is done manually in the Imperium.
>>46826007
Fun thing: With fast-burn torps, it's actually kinda doable to land hits on Eldar. And holofields do nothing to stop melta torps. One good spread and it's pic related.
Who's the better admiral? Spire? Or Honor Harrington?
>>46826324
But what does Fire do other than DoT? It seems pretty useless.
>>46826485
On flimsy eldar ships that DoT makes a big difference
>>46826050
>didn't the Imperium invest in turreted warhips?
Enforcer-class Light Cruiser is all about turrets.
>>46826007
The Nova Cannon has been so inaccurate lately. Have they upped the dispersion on it?
>tfw finally understanding how to play Eldar
>tfw annihilating a Chaos fleet without a single causality
At last I truly see.
>>46826485
the fire can melt smaller ships quickly, especially weak hulled eldar pleasureboats.
>>46826508
They changed the scattering in the Eldar beta patch, dunno if they rechanged it in the release didn't see anything about it in the release notes.
>>46826341
They're both arbitrarily excellent in their universes.
>>46826508
>>46826568
I was expecting the Imp Nova cannon to have better accuracy than the Ork one. I guess the only difference is the lower chance to explode on you.
>>46826690
The old Nova Cannon accuracy made it a must have in IN navy set ups and it raped in Escort/defense missions where the IN was the attacker, now it's more of gamble but still powerful.
Which cruiser should I buy for campaign?
hrmn. is it a good idea to get the cruiser slot right after that sedition and fleet behavior tutorial mission? (the second one)
and what's a good cruiser to shove into the slot? i'm looking at the one with the two small craft bays because i kind of like the idea of carriers but i have no fucking clue how any of them play.
>convoy mission
>ork ship attempting to ram transport
>use imperial cruiser to ram ork cruiser as it's charging
>weight of imperial cruiser does not throw ork cruiser off course at all
>ork cruiser slams into transport, killing it instantly
Oh silly me, I guess I was unreasonable to expect this game to have simple fucking physics.
>want to play chaos
>every time I try to upgrade my hellbringer the game freezes
;_;
>>46826485
It does nothing except a DoT. But three fires will seriously fuck up an eldar cruiser and just fucking melt escorts and light cruisers. They basically ahve to blow their repair ASAP. And then you hit them with the next spread while their repair is still a long time from recharging.
>>46826939
>Implying you can defeat superior Orkish technology
>Implying Orks use conventional physics
>Being this much of a grot
>>46826939
It has. Part of it is that it's pretty hard to budge a same-weight ship unless you hit it at a good angle and speed. Scraping along his side in a shallow angle and low speed won't do shit, you wnat to hit him in at lose to 90° and with the engines on All Ahead Full. Do that to a smaller ship and hit retros after impact and you can kick them a good distance.
Also, Ork rams can be dodged pretty reliably by just going AAF or on retros depending on the angle the Orks are coming in.
>>46826939
>weedy imperial cruiser outmassing an ork cruiser
pssh..nuffink perzonal git!
>>46827124
>you wnat to hit him in at lose to 90° and with the engines on All Ahead Full.
Yeah no shit, thanks for pointing out the most obvious thing in the world. Too bad I hit him within a deviation of 5 degrees of that at AAF and he just kept heading straight forward as if nothing happened. These convoy missions are garbage and need to be removed from the game.
How do I stop people from just ramming my fleet away as eldar? mass swords is just impossible to run from
>>46827240
melt them with pulsars or torpedoes, use stasis bombs if you need it.
Is it possible to do well in the campaign by focusing on very few cap ships and having shitloads of escorts?
>>46827240
Pay attention and use skills to run away. Get the 180º instantaneous turn or improve the rotation speed
>>46827282
>>46827308
Yeah I think I'm gonna put stasis bombs on a ship or two, thanks!
>>46827231
G I T
U
D
And split up your transports, I bet you're clumping them all up.
>>46827231
Uh huh. Cool story. More likely you just miseed narrowly and scraped along the side. Hitting a same-class Ork vessel full-on will push him a bit.
Am I going mad but did they make MWJ disk size fucking massive? Can't do a jump if there's even one escort running around the area.
>>46827472
Yeah nice job parroting the same bullshit the game tells you in the first convoy mission. Too bad splitting them up doesn't work any better than putting them in a line and burning them straight to the goal. In fact, I've had more success doing that then splitting them up. Try pulling your tongue out of Tindalos' collective ass for a minute and realize a shit mission type when you see it?
>>46827500
They fucked with it in the release patch, yes.
>>46827511
sour grapes of the shitter :^)
>>46827511
What? No. Split up the damn transports, then move them away from the enemy clumps and haul ass. Shit's not hard.
>>46827586
I have had success splitting up the transports a grand total of once. Meanwhile, by putting them in a line and burning them to the goal on the far side of the map, I can use my Line ships to shield them from fire as well as ramming attempts. The advice they give you in the tutorial is a load of bullshit and you might as well be rolling the dice by doing it.
>>46827511
Yes, yes, I know it's hard to believe and seems like it doesn't make sense but it's really, truly, pretty effective. Once I started doing that convoy escort missions went from 'utterly impossible' to 'tricky, but actually kinda doable'. Further gitting gud got me up to about a 50% winrate.
Now, you can whine like you belong on a steamforum about how the only game mode should be cruiser clash, OR you can suck it up and git gud like everyone else. It's your choice, nobody can make you do either, and we'll probably mock you no matter what you choose.
>>46827634
You're not splitting them up into groups of the exact number the enemy needs to kill, are you?
Cause I laugh every time I see someone do that as I burn on one group for an easy win.
Is this what /v/ is like?
Do you ever get favors in the campaign?
>>46827658
the splitting up works just fine, except against eldar and chaos. Bunching up is usually a bad idea against IN or orks due to the availability of Nova Cannons and massed torpedoes, but using your ships as a screen is a pretty good tactic I give ya that.
>>46827702
>attacking ork convoy
>need to destroy four transports to win
>he splits them up into groups of three
>I choose not to split my ships up though because a lone un-micro'd ship on the far side of the map will get utterly raped by orks
>destroy one group of transports and its defenders and try to race across to the other side of the map to take out the other
>I won't make it in time, he's going to win
>he runs his transports through a fuck huge asteroid field and they all get destroyed
Can you no longer see unidentified ships on the mini map? Is there a way to get them back?
>>46822933
Git gud
>>46827774
I don't know about AI, it might actually just cheat, idk? But against humans, splitting up your ships (and taking a swarm of escorts) is fucking VITAL.
Put down a few escorts here, a few escorts there, a few transports on either wing, and whatever else you want to be creative.
Then imagine your opponent's face when he rushes a single lightcruiser forward to jump your transports... only to discover that's not four transports, that's four swords, and his cruiser is about to have a very short and unpleasant existence.
>>46827777
ORKZ IZ DA BEST
>>46827707
nah, some of the people here seem to actualy like the video game being discussed
So for the Imperium which of the two classes of the battleship available would you say is more user friendly? From what I can tell one is essentially a carrier based around launching attack craft while the other is a traditional battleship with tons of guns. Is one notably better or is it preference, and what ways should I build and upgrade it?
>>46828013
Also constructive advice. Even if Mohammed here is unwilling to come to the mountain.
Generally, what is your favourite crew member to upgrade? I find the Navigator is only useful for data/assassination missions.
>>46826939
You just don't know how WAAAGH correctly
>just got back from work
>too tired to grind multiplayer
Is the campaign comfy guys? Or do I need to be awake to play it? Haven't read the thread yet.
>>46827707
/v/ is discussing it as well. It's the most productive discussion I've ever seen on there.
>>46828034
The carrier is the Emperor class and the gunship is the Retribution class. The Emperor is, like you said, designed to throw out attack craft. But I believe it actually does *more* damage than the Retribution does in gameplay. Idealy, the Retribution should be a monster, but it is not.
Plus doesn't the Emperor get to call in Cobra destroyers every so often?
>>46828448
/v/ treats 40K threads very well. You get one guy trying to bait about 40K being toys or too grimdark, but everyone already knows that and doesn't care.
>>46828486
Plasma macros got buffed so Ret might be useful now. Haven't had time to check.
>sees SM ship in campaign
>now I just want to play SM instead of IN
>ships have to stop moving in order to warp jump
>but ramming them doesn't prevent a warp jump
Is this some lore fuckery or are the devs just stupid?
>>46828486
>Plus doesn't the Emperor get to call in Cobra destroyers every so often?
anything with the IN favor equipped
>>46828731
Devote all power to 'warp' rather than 'thrust'.
Get free thrust? Who cares?
In the campaign, just unlocked a second cruiser slot. Should I grab a dictator or leave it and wait for better carriers?
>>46828066
Slaves and crew maybe squadron sergeants but that just my inner /m/fag
Anyone else like naming their ships after the famous ships in the BFG rulebook?
>>46821150
If you're usingthe Codex crackthenyes.
>>46828935
Yeah except that "free thrust" was at a right angle compared to their jump vector.
what is best heavy cruiser? I have a Luna, and its okay, but I feel I should have gone with the all macro-cannon with torps option. Nova cannon I want exclusively for my battleship.
>>46829807
BBs don't get novas.
>>46829830
>BBs don't get wave-action BFG
Its cause they have something better, right?
rrriiiiiiiiiiiiigggggghhhttt?
>>46829205
The warp doesn't care. Different reality, different rules.
>>46829869
Unless there's an Armageddon, no.
>>46829869
Novas are not that awesome.
>let's nerf the shit out of the only playable faction in singleplayer just before launch
>what could go wrong?
>>46829869
8 torpedo tubes.
With Emperor class you get two macro batteries and four launch bays as well as 3 macro turrets.
With Retribution class you get six macro batteries and 3 lance turrets.
>>46829975
Shit, i forgot that i had a picture of them.
Whats the best escort choice for the campaign? Torpedo destroyers cause you can slow-mo? maco-cannons to fight off other escorts?
>>46830008
Yeah, id say so.
Also remember to put the torpedoes on auto launch and then try to command them around in groups of 3, so they can actually shoot their torps.
Also, remember, whenever fighting Eldar, fire melta torpedoes.
i have no idea what i'm doing when it comes to selecting new ships for this cruiser slot i bought during the campaign. what cruisers are good and what cruisers are shit?
Is the Dauntless a worst option than Dauntless MkII?
when can I start t command more than 1 cruiser, 1 light cruiser, and one 1 escort in campaign? Is it something you upgrade as you gain prestige or is it by level?
Also, is there only one proper class of light cruiser?
>>46830060
Dauntless mk1 has lances, mk2 has torpedoes, pick the one that suits you most.
>>46830054
I went with macro cannons and nova cannon.
But i suppose pretty much anything goes.
>>46829993
Shouldn't the Emperor-class have more detection rating, given it has the huge amount of sensor-spines sticking from the prow in place of the usual 10-meter thick sheets of adamantium?
>>46830118
It comes as you gain prestiege.
In other words, blow up more ships.
Yes, Dauntless is the only LC you have.
>>46830060
I like the Dauntless better. Poking things with lances is pretty good, you don't have to worry about missing like with torpedoes, and the lance upgrades are better for playing it safe than the broadside upgrades are. Brawling with light cruisers is not great.
>>46829869
Eight torpedoes with the upgrade that makes them travel faster are far more useful than a nova cannon.
>>46830054
They're all okay, it's just that some of them are a little more straightforward to use.
>>46830054
Just pick whatever anon. You end up getting four cruiser slots and the ai isn't smart enough to play around the specific ships you take.
what are the major differences between lances and cannons?
>>46830172
Lances hvae lower damage and slower firing rates but always hit, ignore armour and have higher crit chances.
>>46830172
Lances are fucking worthless and Cannons are objectively superior.
>>46830137
It does, but it's a trait that that screen apparently forgets to take into account.
So what are the bossfights in the campaign like, anyone reach them yet?
>>46830172
Lances are better at destroying enemy systems. Macros are for brawling.
>>46821423
Arent the point of daemonettes that they will take whichever form is the most pleasing to their victim? We all know all bolter bitches are lesbians, maybe one of those in the last stand really likes big butts and cannot lie about it.
Are there multiple endings according to how many missions you succeed or do you have to succeed in all of them? I take part of the campaign is not canon.
Lads, I have Orks overrunning the system, lost two (2) games against the pricks, I don't know how. maybe it's me taking Chaos tactics to the Imperials from having played as them in the skirmishes, I'm finding it pretty easy to wipe Eldar.
>>46830377
sector* rather
>>46830268
>>46830204
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>>46830172
Lances always hit, and only counts 25% of enemy armour. This is awesome if you don't want to get close and brawl. It's pretty nice on lighter cruisers and cruisers that you don't necessarily want to park right next to the enemy, and if you need to kite a lot, or fight ships that are more nimble than you.
Lances do less dps than macro weapons up close, but at long enough range the autohit is better.
>>46830377
>I don't know how.
I'll tell you how: Because the Imperial Navy faction is a pile of shit after they nerfed it into the ground.
Are Voss pattern Shield relics from the Great Crusade? I'm thinking of installing them on escorts/transports.
>>46829973
>>let's nerf the shit out of the only playable faction in singleplayer just before launch
What nerfs? They got heaps of new, cool shit.
>>46830445
They're just shields made on the Forgeworld Voss Prime I think.
>>46830445
They're just really shitty shields once made on Voss Prime. The techpriest in charge fucked up and made shittier void shields than the Imperial standard.
What's the difference between a Widowmakers and Cobra destroyer? Stats are identical except the Cobra has a turret.
>>46830554
Augury range increase on the Widowmaker.
>>46830554
Widowmaker are the eyes of the fleet. Longer range sensors.
>>46830554
>>46830558
>>46830560
Longer range sensors, and they have no way to attack other than with torpedoes. So if you like Eldar micro, you'll like Widowmakers.
>End cutscene has the admiral putting his hand on Ultima Segmentum before directing the fleet forward
TAU CONFIRMED
>>46830695
I hope so, the admiral could tech those upstarts a thing or two about void combat.
>>46830769
>Implying you won't play as Shadowsun herself.
>>46823153
WAAAGGHHH! Yooz not going fast enough ya stooped grot!
I'm having troubles installing unreal 4 what do?
What are the best upgrades fort transports and escorts?
>>46831070
shields, armour, detection range and 2 weapon upgrades for escorts
Transports its about speed, shield, armour, hidden special manoeuvres and extra combustion gauge
Please help anons.
I just bought this, it looks amazing but it crashes constantly.
How do I fix?
I have the lastest drivers, I've tried increasing the power to my card, but this is making the game nearly unplayable.
>>46826939
Newfag. Orks are reality warper.
So, I'm guessing that Admiral Spire is way less awesome than you can make him and canonically he loses almost every key battle.
>>46831586
I don't think Spire is in any of the literature, he's a Gary Stu player insert created just for the game.
>>46831409
I've been running it on medium on an almost 5 years old nvidia card with the fans slightly cranked up with zero crashes for like a month now.
What kind of crash are you getting? Are you playing retail or pirated version?
what should i be doing with the ordnance craft from the ordnance bays? should i be just all bombers all the time? all boarding craft all the time? just shitting out the larges fighter screen the game can handle?
>>46831665
High health and need to blow up systems?
Assault Craft.
Otherwise bombers.
I returned it for now, I was getting some significant bugs in regards to the mouse and enemy AI
>Game deselects my ships immediately after clicking them
>enemy ships fly out of bounds, particuraly during data steal missions then warp out
I'll wait a week or so and hope it gets patched.
so data theft missions are the fucking worst in the campaign. pretty much everyone is faster than me and just runs the fuck away
>>46829167
I do but my ships are named from Battlefleet Calixis/Pass Watch Est
>>46820766
REeeeeeee I suck at this game, recommend me some Imperium ships builds
>assassination with some space marines
>chaos ship runs to the corner of the map
>we get it down to heavily damaged
>marine ship right in front of it
>it starts warping out
>marine sits back and doesn't ram to stop him
>I was outmaneuvering bombs and didn't have the combustion
>enemy escapes with a sliver of health
Wew the AI allies sometimes.
So guys, is it worth the 30 britbucks? Big BFG fan back in the day, but I've been burnt one too many times with these games.
>>46831879
pair up a dominator and a gothic, specialise the dominator in close combat and boarding, and the gothic in lances and support skills.
>>46831901
It's a pretty faithful adaptation of the TT and it's a solid video game made by people who really like the source material.
The campaign is incredibly frustrating
(legit spoilers ahead)
You've done incredibly well Admiral! however...We lost a blackstone fortress... offscreen
uh oh Admiral...Abaddon blew up a planet... offscreen
>>46832083
those aren't exactlydespoilers
Gothic is a historical scenario. Everyone should know how it goes down.
>>46829869
Retribution gets 8-tube torp launcher. Emperor has no extra prow armor or any prow weapon, but instead a bigass sensor array giving it 10k detection range.
>>46829993
Those are old stats btw. Retribution has been buffed to 150 speed since.
>>46831901
Do you like the idea of playing multiplayer against people, knowing they'll be salty as fuck when you blow up one of their ships and it has to spend the next couple of games on the bench unless they pay points for it?
If yes, the 30 britbucks is a steal, if no, you should play something else.
I think personally that I'll play it enough that 90 britbucks would still have been cheap, I just wish they didn't have micro warp jumps and bombs, they distract so much from the positioning and orders gameplay.
>>46822419
Let me introduce you to my hero Prokofiev.
https://youtu.be/xyDKezDLGTM
>>46826939
ITS BIG
ITS RED
ITS OUT OF CONTROL
AN ITS A BUTTON
>>46831690
>enemy ships fly out of bounds
How do you mean?
>>46832266
Ships are able to fly outside of map boundaries as part of their maneuvers, you can't issue movement orders outside of the map but if their course takes them beyond the boundaries they won't slam into an invisible wall.
That's intentional
