You've taken the time to make 'em and break 'em. Now we will see who is the most prettiest perfect snowflake in the storm.
Vote for your favorites.
Have roll off battles and story times.
Only thegayestshall survive.also lore thread
Last thread:
>>46746021
>>46763285
Here's another late entry that I didn't feel like splicing into the sheet.
RULES: You can't vote for your own flake.
Is the snowstorm still taking new flakes? I have some unfinished ideas floating around.
>>46763327
Do it. Winter can never be stopped. Fuck global warming.
>>46763285
As the OP, I hereby decree that the battle shall take place on the plane of
TEEGEE
Can Teegee survive such an onslaught?
>>46763285
For fairness's sake, I suggest Razorcock be crowned and allow the battle to go without him.
Chickenshit as it sounds, it's just too unfair if the other flakes must go up against that mighty raging cock.
Rolled 19, 14 = 33 (2d47)
Last time, the Cock pretty much pasted Marjanah, because that's what the crowd wanted.
Let's see who's going this time.I'm hoping for a Gruulbowl.
>>46763435
Very well, as Razorcock's creator, I will crown him victor and have him judge the remaining contestants from the sidelines.
LET THE BATTLE CONTINUE
Come on
>>46763441
>14: Remes
>19: Ivander
Espionage vs. Lunacy.
Ravnica vs. Innistrad
Vampires (kinda) vs. Werewolves
Red vs. Blue
Razorcock's bidding be done, so begins round (2? 3? 20? I haven't been counting.) OF THE FLAKEBOWL
>>46763517
I'm giving the edge to the wolfir here. Dimir fuckery doesn't usually have to deal with super-smell and werewolves are good at destroying artifacts. Especially collars, especially especially Avacyn's Collar, the symbol of her church–I'll stop now.
>>46763517
>>46763632
Yeah, Ivander doesn't sound like much of a fighter. If the wolfir can smell him coming, he's pretty fucked
>Just finished my third fucking flake
>It's an elder dragon jew who cuts deals with morons and has a side job of selling novelties to planeswalkers, including self-published booklets with clickbaity titles like "Why Going to Innistrad is a Death Wish"
Just kill me to be honest family
Do we have any people from the first lore thread snowstorm with flakes on the current one?
>>46763681
I dunno. I could see Remes leading Ivander into a trap. Ivander doesn't strike me as the thinking type.
Do we have any hints or clues about the next block?
This SOI shit got real old real fast. I get it there are spooky things on a spooky plane, and some pale stoner space whore is trying to fuck it all up by summoning some shit with her army of prickly rock dicks.
>What do you think the next block will be about?
>what kind of plane would you like to see?
>any cool lore tier cretches or walkers?
>are we going to see the return of kamahl, arcanis, or urza as a cool walker? (or in urza's, a walker with a body)
>>46763285
>>46763486
Razorock is best snowflake. Who can argue with that card?
Also, my snowflake. Pic releated. Comments, criticism, and hate all welcome.
>>46764120
*please pardon the NAME. Missed one, apparently.
>>46764120
neat. He looks like a boy Elspeth.
>>46763909
Tharunya was mine. Katin is mine as well, and I'm at work on another at the moment.
>>46763517
I'm the Anon that posted Remes. I could be biasedand I'll try not to bebut maybe this would shed some light? Obviously, I can't vote either way.
Remes isn't much of a fighter. His choice instead is mostly to sneak around and steal things. Being that he likes to use artifacts that are weapons, he is more of a combatant than say, Jace is, but he would rather be pit against someone else that's going to be casting or whose artifacts he can turn against them.
That being said, he definitely still is from House Dimir and wouldn't be easy to catch. If you CAN catch him and you're shrewd enough, he's not going to get away from you. If you're too careless, he's could very well outwit you.Well, back to work on my next flake. This time I made the card before the bio. Pic related.
If Kanye West was a planeswalker what would his colors and abilities be, pls respond.
>>46764286
B
+1: But 6 1/1 backup black rapper tokens on the field tapped and rapping.
-2: Insult target celebrity on live TV.
-6: Urination nation.
>>46763863
>>46764190
that -X is unbalanced as you intend for it to work, since it can deal damage on -0, and non functional as you have it actually written.
>>46764360
Yeah, I wasn't sure if I got that quite right or not. You can obviously tell what I was going for, but I had some trouble figuring out how to exactly word it.
So why is some land more charged with a certain colour of mana than others?
I can understand Forests from green. Yeah all that growth and life and shit
Plains for white? I suppose they are orderly
Swamps and black? I can see the parasitism but where does the whole "I am number one thing represent?"
Islands for blue, well I get the whole water and ice and shit, but where do you get the drive for knowledge and illusions and mind reading?
Mountains for red? I am lost on this one. Mountains aren't really passionate and free
>>46763285
>>46764433
It's not about the ideas behind the magic, in he lore when a leyline of mana travels through the land it just becomes that when they cross it becomes a dual land.
>>46763324
How'd she get her hands on Tatsu?
>>46764529
So when a leyline crosses a mountain, boom Red mana?
I can dig it
Alright, as promised, new flake.
>>46764190
Hmm...if that's the case...I could see Remes winning. I bet he lays some sick traps and plays mind games with his blue mana.
Bro, how could you leave out this fat fuck?
>>46764778
>>46763517
>>46763632
>>46763681
>>46763919
>>46764190
>"The contenders have fought long and well" bellows the cock on the throne, a voice like thunder and grieving children.
>"Remes, scion of house Dimir, you have shown great cunning and skill with your trinkets and toys." Remes nods his head with due respect.
>"And Ivander, your ferocity rivals that of the greatest howlpacks, undaunted by the guile of your foe." The wolfir growls his acknowledgement, unwilling to bow even before the great Cock.
>"YET. Only ONE shall prevail!"
>"With the last of your efforts, go now! Go and claim victory for yourselves, your plane, and for all who share your same manawells! GO!"
>The battle continues. Only one round remains.
>Remes evades Ivander's initial blows, setting a series of traps all the while.
>Yet Ivander is incredibly quick and seems unfazed.
Who wins, /tg/?
>>46764909
>This music starts to play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0s20588opz4
When will krenko's infinite goblin breeding machine just flood all the guilds of ravnica with bodies making him the one true ruler of the plane?
>>46763909
I contributed Gitany/Amelia/Bumlier/Pesh/Dlo to the original snowstorm, and I have Albin on this one.
Here's a new one, wanted to take a shot at Green's approach to knowledge/wisdom without making someone Simic.
If we're still making snowplanes I might throw up a couple of those too.
>>46765080
It's not that Krenko literally breeds Goblins out like crazy. It's that he's good at recruiting and directing goblins. If he wanted to very seriously direct his efforts, he could probably create a Goblin coalition of guild-like proportions. But even then, that's just a bunch of mostly unintelligent goblins, with the Izzet Goblins being owned by and happy to be in the Izzet League.
Because fuck you, I'm a dragon and me and my mates are going to do what we want.
>>46765090
Fuck dude how did you get the MtG text on mspaint?
>>46765155
I got it by downloading the Beleren font for Magic Set Editor.
I need a name for a W/G male elf cleric from Mirrodin who travels the Multiverse preaching the ideals of New Phyrexia as the ultimate in unity.
>>46765324
Adelf Hitler
>>46765416
He's not Nissa, anon.
From the same goof that brought you Remes about 24 hours ago comes a Tibalt-inspired character that tries to do his job better than him.
Meet Cala, Mischief Seeker. I'll re-post the card again as soon as I can figure out how to fix the text on the ult.Found a typo immediately after posting this, so I deleted it and this is the re-post.
>>46765423
Same shit, different sex organs.
>>46764120
Not bad as far as flakes go, anon.
That profile pic looks less like a cleric, and more like a paladin. Still, it's rather fitting as he isn't actually an angel (kudos on no lore breaking), but does have the backing of angels (or an angel), for lack of a better phrase.
All in all, decent job with an quasi-angel walker that isn't cringe inducing.
>>46764909
I wanna know who wiiiiinssss.
But I can't vote 'cause I already voted.
>>46765496
Reworked!The cost on the ult is to balance compared to Tibalt's -4
>>46765496
>Horrible, horrible, horrible
What horrible oversight on my part while writing the bio.
>>46764909
Still voting for the Cock if I cna vote again. He has a gun, after all.
>>46764151
Thanks. I've always thought Elspeth would get along well on Innistrad. Clear "good guys" and bad guys for her to get behind. A vulnerable human populace, etc. A Church/religion and clear icon to devote herself too. One which wouldn't stab her (till she very recently went insane, of course.)
>>46769018
>>46764171
Meant to link to you, instead.
>>46764555
I meant to add in Kamigawa and Ravnica, but I'm lazy.
>>46763285
> Most Beautiful Flake
Kaina
> Most Developed Flake
Naran
> Most Powerful Flake
Vronak
>>46769018
Except it's not a clear good guy and bad guy sides.
There are good Vampires, Werewolves, and so forth.
And there are bad Clerics, Knights, and Townsfolk.
>>46769269
*clearer than most places.
There weren't really any arguably good vampires besides Sorin and good werewolves only came about after the Cursemute.
And yes, the humans weren't by any means the purest. Still, generally speaking, for most of the plane humans are a group of vulnerable innocents being preyed up by malevolent forces.
>>46769291
But, Olivia is a good vampire. She even throws a ball where she has all her vamps treat humans like royalty for a day. :)
>>46769329
Does she really? I'll have to attend such a party. I'm sure it'll be a life-changing experience.
>>46769363
Most definitely. I heard it's a once in a lifetime experience to have all her vampires do your bidding.
Does anyone have a blank template for a White planeswalker? I'm having trouble finding one.
>>46769400
I went once.
Itsucked.
>>46769448
Here you go buddy, a blank Templet.
>>46769500
Thanks, senpai. You're a bright spot in a sea of pricks; pristine white in your virtue.
>>46769450
kek
>>46764120
No flake is complete without an flake card to go with it, so here we go!
>>46763486
You might want to edit the card. Mandatory background checks will make the plus one impossible to resolve, and anyone playing this card probably already has a gun anyways.
>>46769579
Mind making my Reanimator snowflake a planeswalker card? I'm on my phone at work and can't edit one up.
Casting cost: (W/U)(R/G)(B)(B)(B)
His abilities would be...
+1: Search your library for a creature card and put it into your graveyard.
-4: Put a creature card from your graveyard onto the battlefield under your control.
-10: Put all creature cards from all graveyards onto the battlefield under your control.
Starting Loyalty: 5
>>46769661
Here is his original pic, but it has a white bg.
>>46769661
What title do you want on the card?
When a planeswalker uses an ability like Go For The Throat and they don't control any creatures, is it fluffed that the walker themself is taking a big ol chunk out of the creature's neck?
>"Drawing mana from my creatures, I summon the mighty Autochthon Wurm!"
>"THIS IS DELICIOUS"
>"Sorin pls"
>>46769661
>>46769718
Also, any subtypes?
>>46769718
Vronak Hourk, the Reanimator
>>46769735
Planeswalker - Vronak
>>46763285
>Only the gayest shall survive.
Guess the Greek hoplite takes it all.
>>46769722
No, it's a spell being cast. More than likely an apparition being cast that does one thing. Think of it this way, when a creature attacks, are you casting a spell to represent it's attack?
>>46769758
So there weren't enough characters to fit "The" in his name. I'll be happy to change it if you want. (I also set the loyalty counter at 5. Am willing to change that too.)
>>46769722
It's fluffed however you want. Your cards man.
>>46769579
>+1
"The next time a creature you control would be dealt damage, prevent 1 of that damage."
>-2
Looks fine, though it's "put A [...] token", not "put ONE [...] token".
>-8
Cut the comma, replace "3" with "three".
With regards, /ccg/
>>46769801
That's perfect. Thanks.
>>46769873
A pleasure.
>>46769848
Ah, my thanks! The wording on the first ability is exactly what I was looking for.
>>46766170
Definitely someone Rakkor would try to bring into his entourage, even if he later got tired of her ruining his latest plans.
>mfw I had a dream where I was about to fuck Arlinn Kordin her werewolf form
>mfw I woke up before the good part with a boner
This weremilf meme has gone too farwithout good lewds
>>46769232
>> Most Powerful Flake
>Vronak
AHem.
>CLUCK CLUCK
>>46763285
I want to fuck Zenri
>>46769967
Do you have an Arlinn Korn card?
>>46770005
Yes, but does he exile anything or just destroy anything? Any good Reanimator has something that's indestructible at their disposal.
Also, how the fuck do you pronounce Hourk? Like Hour with -k at the end?
>>46770109
No, just Jace #7 and Sorin, FUCKING PISSEDI hope I can pull at least 3 copies of weremilf so I can sell one, keep one, and use the last as potential fap material if I'm ever desperate enough
>>46770154
You have a computer with hires pics on the Internet. Use it instead of a card.
Also, this weekend I'm playing in a 2HG tournament where we draft an entire box together. If I pull an extra Arlinn Korn, I'll straight up mail it to you buddy. My buddy gets first dibs on Arlinn, so it'd have to be he second one pulled from a box. But, it still can happen. Just create a new email and I'll message you if I pull one.
The under-populated colors and color combinations are:
>Blue, with one.
>Simic, with one.
>Esper, with one.
>Abzan, with one.
>Jund, with one.
>Naya, with one.
>Bant, with one.
The over-populated colors and color combinations are:
>Boros, with five.
>Selesnya, with four.
>Temur, with four.
The over-populated origin plane is:
>Innistrad, with eight snowflakes.
The planes that no one has come from yet are:
>Ulgrotha
>Kamigawa
>Lorwyn
>>46770199
Which is the most boring snowflake?
Which is the most Mary Sue snowflake?
Which is the most Tumblr snowflake?
Which is the most off-color snowflake?
>>46770199
Awesome. At last we have an update.
>>46770227
>at last
The last one was less than twenty-four hours ago.
>>46769967
>>>/aco/503264
There is no god but Buttfish and the writefag is his prophet.
>>46770199
Figured we'd have weebs from Kamigawa. Well,8 from Innistrad kind of makes sense with how utterly horrifying and traumatizing the place would be to normal humans.
Still, I think I'll rework Rakkor to be less outright terrifying and more of selfish dragon out to have fun with friends. Do we have any idea where the planar portal in Ulgrotha went?
>>46764909
flipped a coin. Tails won.
>Ivander is caught in an explosion from the Dimiri's traps.
>He loses an eye.
>But not before he guts Remes.
>Sir Razorcock surveys the carnage from above.
>"I declare Ivander, Son of Innistrad, Ender of the Cursemute, as the WINNER!"
>The stage is reset. Both Ivander and Remes regenerate and return to the pool.
Next round is up.
'''Rolled 32, 12 of 55''' (chicken excluded)
Struzec VS Jed
Green VS Boros
Human VS Kithkin
Who shall prevail?
Rolled
>>46763486
Been done.
>>46770223
>Most boring
Corvin
>Most Mary Sue
Vronak
>Most Tumblr
Kaina
>Most off-color
Leerahll
>>46770199
thanks for the update!
>>46770199
Diomedes would try to gather up all the Theros planeswalkers together into their own group, if only to feed his own ego and more importantly keep himself from feeling isolated in new planes. Xaniphe and Astera would be great as basically as bards to spread his legend, while Dyna would be a great warrior to compete with. Plus, possible harem end in his mind.
>>46770479
>Goldstein, the Jewmancer
>>46770199
All of the Innistrad flakes appear in a tavern at the same time.
>A gregarious bard that can talk to spirits, with the soul of his brother bound to him so he can experience life through him.
>A noble cathar carrying the essence of an angel, dedicating to bringing good to the world and protecting the innocent.
>A large, selfish dragon with a cadre of vampire goons devoted to hedonism and causing carnage.
>A spunky reverse-trap race jockey with a penchant for going fast, a love of partying and a phobia of vampires.
>A rage-consumed wolfir nobleman with a lot of anger directed at Avacyn and a desire to become a werewolf once more.
>Two more cathars, one male and one female, both dedicated to bringing peace and prosperity to Innistrad and maintaining its traditions.
>An enigmatic witch possessing strange, fey enchantments and a potential connection to the big NB himself.
What happens?
>>46770349
> Yawgmoth
> Phyrexian leader
> Planeswalker
Umm...
>>46770535
The three Cathars tell each other a few rousing stories of heroism, self-sacrifice, and virtue before drawing their weapons and begin purging the unclean heretics, the dragon, the wolfir, and witch. Who knows which side would win?
Mean while, the bard plays a merry tune and race jokey places bets on the outcome.
>>46770535
I think a good portion depends on who the dragon decides on helping. The jockey will probably oppose the dragon because of vampire goons. Wolfir would oppose all three Cathars. Not sure about the bard or witch, so they're wild cards. I think the dragon would be a big turning point because, well, it's a fucking dragon planeswalker. Witch is also important because of NB connections which will likely lead to her manipulating the dragon.
>>46770199
Amund comes from Lorwyn
>>46770535
Better be a huge tavern to fit a dragon in it!
>>46770642
That was missed.
Minor planes that don't have flakes:
>Vryn
>Regatha
>Valla
>Kaldheim
>Mercadia
>Iquatana
>Equilor
>Belenon
>>46770135
Vronak's creator here.
It's pronounced "Whore-k"
>>46770846
So slutty
>>46770889
You have no idea. ;)
He is a villain who is prominently black-mana aligned after all.
>>46770535
As Rakkor's maker, I'd say he'd do whatever the fuck it took to get out of there. Fuck Innistrad. If it's not angels, then it's fucking madness. I need to change his favorite plane really, he loved what it used to be.
>>46769801
>>46769873
Why is this abomination multicolored? What part of it is anything other than black?
Seriously, do you flakes even put effort into it? This shit is worse than CCG.
>>46771219
Color identity for the summons he brings from the grave.
>>46771219
Not all flakes in this bread have been off the rails.
>>46771296
If you ever try to play that in commander, you need to be slapped.
>>46771219
>>46771410
Yeah, because "fuck your life total" Sorin is worse.
But, here is how it works... A necromancer planeswalker (A Reanimator if you will) has to learn the color combinations of creatures to be able to create duplicates of those creatures to toss into the ground (graveyard). So, they must dabble in other colors to learn what makes up those creatures to store in their spellbooks (libraries).
So, if a Reanimator uses creatures of multiple colors, for instance Terastodon, Inkwell Leviathan, and Baneslayer Angel, then they must know how to use green, blue, and white even though all of their sorceries, instants, and enchantments are black.
>>46771686
That's just bullshit commander rules. A real reanimator doesn't need to know shit about white to resurrect Iona or Norn, let alone require white mana to do it.
>>46771761
They have to learn spells to put them in their libraries. All Planeswalkers do.
>>46771772
Yeah no, by your logic Liliana would've had to understand white mana in order to resurrect Mikaeus in that case, which she doesn't.
>>46771816
He turned black.
>>46771816
I'm with you, dredge is a pretty mono black thing. I mean zombies are THE black creature. While I get the argument that it brings them back as black, graveyard control is all about black.
>>46771772
Then you're not truly reanimating. You're mixing it with summoning in some fashion. You're killing them, then bringing them back from the graveyard. Most of these creatures should come back as black, or at least part black.
>>46771975
>>46771816
These guys are right.
>>46771816
By your logic of this >>46771761 then Garruk just knows how to cast Tooth and Nail and bring Avacyn and Ulamog to fight for him just because. Since he doesn't have to learn shit.
>>46772116
That's not how Entomb works. You're not killing anything. You're putting a duplicate spell of that creature into the ground (graveyard) and then casting Zombify to bring them to the battlefield.
There was no creature for you to kill to begin with.
>>46771002
>favorite plane
Serra's realm maybe? Before the fall?
>>46772116
Reanimating doesn't necessarily change he color of a creature. And you're not killing anything at all. You are pulling a spell you have learned from your library and putting it into your graveyard. Then pulling it from your graveyard and putting it on the battlefield.
You have to know the spell first, I.E. Have it in your library. Which is a spellbook of spells that you know.
>>46769801
Personally I think Vronak should be straight black with abilities like these. Have his cost be 3 generic and 3B.
>>46772116
>>46772613
And the creatures in a typical Reanimator deck.
>>46771686
Reanimator spells are straight black, anon. Vronak should be black. He'd make a sick mono-black walker.
>>46772633
Could be, but pulling any creature from your library means any creature, not just a black creature. Remember, Planeswalkers are players casting spells. Just like you or me playing a game. We are two Planeswalkers dueling. And no Reanimator deck runs mono-black.
>>46771686
5-color planeswalkers should be beings that use their magic to construct planes. Period.
>>46772670
Many of the best such spells are white, and no color does graveyard recursion in general better than green.
>>46772675
I don't think you completely understand what you're arguing, but whatever. This is a flake thread. You can do what you want.
>>46770199
All the flakes from parts unknown/oc planes meet, what happens.
>>46772687
Like Urza? Oh, wait... He was mono-blue.
o__o
>>46772734
They get drunk and fuck eachother.
Duh.
>>46772687
This gave me the idea for a flake.
Here's the concept:
An ancient as fuck oldwalker finally masters the 5 colors. She uses her immense mana-fuckery to forge a vast and wonderful plane. She puts herself to sleep at the plane's core, acting as its main mana source. The plane is stable because she provides all 5 colors. She put spells in place before her sleep that keep the plane insulated from the rest of the multiverse, so long as it continues to exist. These spells protected the plane from both the time rifts and the mending. As soon as these spells break and the mending reaches the plane, she will no longer be able to sustain it and it will collapse. But for now, the plane thrives. Her name is Gaia, the Planet Core. She in her dreams, strange things on the plane manifest, including avatars of herself. She has inspired several religions amongst the local populace.
What do you guys think?
>>46772709
I get what you are saying, as a real printed card it would be mono-black.
But, this is a planeswalker that has a spellbook filled with ever my color of creature summon spells. This, his color identity would be Domain.
Perhaps as a printed card it would work best as a flip card. One side mono-black and the other side Domain.
>>46772783
huh. Kinda reminds me of the antithesis to the planeswalker that became Phyrexia's core. Was that the inspiration?
>>46772826
>Was that the inspiration
A bit, yeah.
>>46772783
I like it a lot. Nice spin to the Mother Earth concept.
>>46772992
Thanks. I was originally going to make it a dude and then I thought: "Gaia would be cool".
>>46772992
And one thing to note is that no one gets in or out of her plane. Since it's cut off from the rest of the multiverse, no new planeswalker sparks have been formed since its creation. And only a planeswalker more powerful and knowledgeable than Gaia herself can break the planar enchantments. So it exists in a planar bubble atm.
What flakes would be friends and enemies? What groups do we have?
Did someone say snowflakes?
>>46772116
Leaning a summon doesn't require the ability to channel the necessary coloured mana - they're bundles of memories incarnated by the appropriate mana.
Spells *might* actually need you to understand the colour in question, but summons never did.
Felden always had the "summon" of his wife in his mind, long before he gained the ability to bring it forth.
>>46773060
Kolya, Cadros, and Deka would probably get along well. All three are Cathars from Innistrad, and share White as a color. Also Acervus, the knight from Bant who is aiding the people of Innistrad.
Each share similar goals, are White aligned, and doing it on the same plane. Kolya and Acervus probably share a reverence from angels, and the three Cathars for Avacyn, most likely.
>>46773250
That's funny, because Sorin became W/B when to be able to create Avacyn.
Shit, Ixidor was a mono-blue Mage. And he had to learn how to channel white magic to make Akroma.
So, yes. Yes you do need to dabble in the color you are trying to summon a creature of. And again, if the spell is in your library, it is apart of your color identity.
>>46773367
You're not creating anything though, you're bringing back the dead. You're thinking like this is your pimped out magic deck, when we're making story characters with a dash of cards for giggles. You're going full meta. Never go full meta.
>>46773367
Colour identity on cards is not a strict metaphysical gauge of their essential being.
Pretty much everyone is inherently composed of all five colours. Professions and inclination will make someone lean in certain directions.
A wolf is green because that's the aspect of its wolf-ness you used to make it.
By your reasoning, Feldon became UBRGW at the end of his quest. Because that's what he used to summon his wife. But he was always UBRGW, he just didn't know how to use those colours of mana.
>>46765137
Shame summoning doesn't get you the actual person.
All his vampire buddies are dead or going mad and he thinks he's still broing it up with the real deal
>>46773367
Well, we've known Sorin as mono black long before W/B Sorin on Innistrad, but this mono black Sorin from Zendikar had already created Avacyn ages ago at that point. So that's simply not true.
>>46773497
Good point, didnt think of that. Can planeswalkers bring other creatures to orher planes with them?
>>46772741
Urza never made a plane
>>46773642
No, they'd go insane and simultaneously melt inside the Blind Eternities.
>>46773642
They specifically cannot.
>>46773740
Well Rakkor needs to get reworked then. Though the idea of bringing basically shades of his friends to each world and trying to live it up with them is depressingly black...
>>46773780
Make him BW, after he realises his friends are just shades he sees it as a way to let their memories live on. In a truly messed up way, of course, but hey!
>>46773780
That's why I didn't bring up the vampires on his blurb.
He'd be able to conjure up aetheric copies of them that look and act much like his buddies but are ultimately subject to his will but he definitely wouldn't be able to drag them through the Multiverse with him.
There's very peculiar ways of getting around this stuff though, like the snowflake that has his brother's spirit bound to him, the cathar with an angel's essence inside of him and a couple of other examples.
Shiiit. I still need to make an actual Flake sheet for mine... In my defense, I went to a lot of trouble to balance her card and make sure it was flavorful, atleast.
>>46773843
Text too small, card is shit. Ice Cauldron go home
>>46770223
>Which is the most boring snowflake?
Cadros, Deka or Corvin.
>Which is the most Mary Sue snowflake?
Cianne or Sonia.
>Which is the most Tumblr snowflake?
Katri, Acervus or Ginger.
>Which is the most off-color snowflake?
Vronak or Huija.
>Which is the edgiest snowflake?
Vronak or Irriad.
>Which is the most lore-shattering snowflake?
Unit IV, with Akanta, Ariadne and Vronak tied for second place.
>>46773902
>Knocking on one of the finest of all MTG traditions.
I shiggiddy
>>46773934
No, I'm knocking on one of Yugioh's traditions.
>>46773954
>Magic doesn't have giant blocks of tiny text.
>>46773826
Hm, I don't want to oversaturate white black, but then again I do that with black already. Maybe He could make his friends into artifacts to keep them 'alive,' all the while in denial they were probably slaughtered by Avacyn.
>>46774011
There's currently two black snowflakes (not including yours) and two Orzhov flakes. You're not over-saturating any color by choosing either, seeing as Boros has fucking five.
>>46773625
Right. Sorin is monoblack, as is typical of vampires. He just gains white as part of his mana identity when he has a strong sense of duty, which Zendikar and Innistrad events have been locking hi into. It's a reasonable assumption that he was this way also when he created Avacyn to keep his home plane at a balance.
>>46773451
Again, you obviously do not understand the mythos behind summoning.
There is no creature to begin with. You are not killing Avacyn, then resurrecting her. That's not how these spells work.
In fact, in the mythos, summoning a legendary creature isn't always "bringing this one being in existence to me to fight for me". It can also be "making a false duplicate of a specific creature to fight for me".
And that's what a Reanimator does. They aren't calling Avacyn, Griselbrand, Elesh Norn, and Jin-Gitaxias to a plane to fight for them. Shit, none of them would even get along and would ultimately fight eachother.
In the book The Eternal Ice, Lim-Dûl explains that summons are typically making a faux copy of a creature.
This isn't casting Murder on Griselbrand. Then casting Dread Return on him.
As there was not Griselbrand to begin with. The Reanimator has a summing spell of Griselbrand in their library of spells. They cast Entomb, which makes a duplicate of Griselbrand and puts it into the ground. Then they cast Dread Return/Exhume/Reanimate and bring that duplicate to life from the ground.
>>46773476
Again, that's not the case. Look at Sorin, mono black Vampire. He dabbles into white mana. Then becomes B/W. Then he was capable of creating the spell that forged Avacyn.
Planeswalkers can change their color identities. It just depends on what kind of spells they learn.
Also, it's WUBRG. Pic related.
>>46773924
Spot on with Huija being off-color.
>>46774328
And you're being completely obtuse to justify your super special snowflake, and how he totally isn't just a puffed up black necromancer. Whatever bro, just get your socks off about your lore rape.
>>46773625
This is wrong. Sorin was mono black on Zendikar thousands of years ago. Approximately over 5,000 years I believe. Or maybe just 1,000. I can't remember. Anyways...
Him, Ugin, and Nahiri locked the Eldrazi away. And vowed to return if the Eldrazi ever returned.
And he then went back to Innistrad shortly before the first Zendikar block as we knew it. Where he was now B/W. And seeing Innistrad as fucked up as it was, he created Avacyn out of a part of the Helvault.
And making such a powerful summon into a permenant creature that never went away even if he left the plane, took a toll on him and left him in a seriously weakened state.
And this is why he did not return to Zendikar when they released the Eldrazi Titans. There was a spell on Zendikar to alert him if this ever happened, and he was so weak he couldn't keep a link to the spell.
And this is why Nahiri is pissed off at him.
So, Sorin went from mono-black to black/white and never went back. He had learn new white spells which made him b/w. And he did not create Avacyn when he was mono-black.
>>46773924
How is Vronak lore-shattering?
>>46773625
Zendikar's mana is known to be wild and fucks with those who use it. Maybe he only wanted to use Black so he could bumrush the seal without getting hung up with White issues.
That or the Plains on Zendikar kept getting up and walking away so he gave up on them.
>>46774548
You have never read any of the MtG books or articles, huh?
Also, the anon who is running the snowflakes ordeal actually agrees with me. In fact, he was stating it in defense of the character long before I even said anything about it.
>>46774659
>"Wait, no, hey! Come on, don't go! I need two more White mana! Guys come ooon! You know what, screw you guys, I'm going home."
>>46774659
That's not how casting from lands works either. Even if Zendikar behaved strangely, he could get white mana.
>>46774604
He's able to conjure up the corpses of several lore-important characters and resurrect them to serve his will.
>>46774777
That is not how that works. At all.
He studies creatures from afar, figuring out what combinations of mana make up their very being. And adds them to his library where he conjures up duplicates of these beings from the ground.
i.e. The Reanimator.
>>46774826
Oh boy, it's this discussion again.
That's now how summoning legendaries works.
>>46774849
Yes, it is. This isn't pre-revisionist.
> The modern idea of summoning involves both the prerevisionist way and the creation of a faux entity based on the concept of that creature, which is pulled from the Æther. These summoned creatures have no will of their own, and vanish when no longer needed. This concept is described in The Eternal Ice by Lim-Dûl to Jodah. Though Jodah is not in fact summoned, as Lim-Dûl suggests, the explanation is still valid and continues to be the best flavor related description of the summoning process.
> The summoning of unique, Legendary individuals is similar to this, but based on the concept of a specific individual and not simply off of a group. It is also described in The Eternal Ice.
>>46774919
Read the Drop for Drop article of the extent that Kiora has to go to in order to learn how to summon a legendary leviathan to other worlds.
>>46774732
If he can't make bonds with it or never bothered to try, why would he? Are you even sure who you're talking to anymore?
>tfw you find art you like for a flake but not the right skin colour for the race.
>>46775021
She is choosing to actually call upon Lorthos. Not conjure a copy of Lorthos. There is a difference.
The reason she does this, is because she knows that Lorthos knows how to battle better than she does. And would prefer him to fight at his best. Rather than tell a copy of Lorthos what to do and ultimately make more mistakes.
>>46775066
Then change the race or shop the pic.
Less arguing, more posting snowplanes.
>>46775130
> Snowplanes
>__>
>>46775130
That's not the Snowflake Templet.
This is.
>>46775073
That isn't the Drop for Drop article. We went through this the exact last time we spoke about this.
Read the Drop for Drop article. Know what you're actually talking about before you comment on it.
>>46775240
Read the licensed book The Eternal Ice.
>>46775058
No, but you definitely don't. I just jumped in.
Zendikar's rich with mana. Even though the landscape is bizarre as hell, it's not like the plane's movements are going to totally snuff out someone's casting.
>>46775021
I took that to be a sort of specific thing. Kiora wanted THAT one, she wanted Arixmethes itself, not just a copy.
>>46775298
Exactly.
>>46775275
I have. Now read the more relevant modern information that came out fifteen years later and after the Mending, anon.
>>46775298
She wouldn't be able to transport it to Zendikar. It would have been useless to her stuck on Theros, she wanted it specifically for use on another plane.
>>46775240
You are getting the whole concept of summoning mixed up. It's not just one way is the only way.
When it comes to Kiora, this guy >>46775298 is correct. She didn't want a copy of her summons. She wanted the real deals. Think of it like you want the original print of a card. And not just one of the reprints from other sets.
>>46775370
She can summon creatures from one plane to another. That was the point of Drop for Drop. She is a collector of authentic sea creatures.
>>46775413
>>46775392
>>46775298
After the Mending, planeswalkers can't summon creatures from one plane to another. Kiora cannot break that rule. The only creatures that can go through the Blind Eternities to other planes are planeswalkers and a few very specific other creatures.
>>46775440
Did you even read Drop for Drop? In her battle against Thassa, she was doing exactly that. Summoning creatures from different planes.
>>46775475
Yes, but they weren't physically creatures from other planes, they were constructs made out of mana, the same as Garruk's beasts.
Kiora can summon the real Lorthos using the bident because he happens to actually be on Zendikar with her.
>>46775475
>Reaching out across the Blind Eternities, she gathered to her the essence of every sea-beast she had ever called her own. She pulled those essences to her one by one, manifested them in Theros's seas. The strain was immense. New shapes dove out of the darkness, and grating squeals and clicking rumbles sounded challenge. The newcomers and the natives circled and snapped, investigating, testing each other, trying to work out a pecking order. Good.
Manifesting the essences of creatures on a plane that she is on is not summoning those exact creatures from where they are on other planes, because planeswalkers past the Mending can't do that.
>>46775531
Kiora was actually summoning sea monster from different planes to Theros to fight for her.
> Thassa turned her attentions to Kiora. After a fight involving many sea monsters and kraken (some of them summoned from other planes), Kiora escaped mostly unharmed and clutching Thassa's magical bident Dekella.
>>46775579
Read the actual article and stop quoting MTG Salvation, something confirmed as an unreliable source.
>>46775560
You don't pull spells from other planes. You cast spells from your spellbook. Which all Planeswalkers have, either a physical spellbook or a library of spells magically inscribed into their mind.
She was summoning those creatures from other planes.
You don't have to pull anything from other planes to summon duplicates.
>>46775619
> unreliable
Get the fuck outta here. You are just trying to pull shit out of your ass to win an arguement. One that your own source proves you wrong. I'm done with you.
Can.. planeswalking be inherited?
>>46775662
No. Well. Not genetically. But you can inherit a spark from a Walker that wants to give you theirs. It's how Kharn got his.
>>46775662
Theoretically, yes. Though, you are just born with a predisposition to having a dormant spark. Doesn't mean it is ignited. You are not a planeswalker until it is ignited.
>>46775728
Karn.
>>46775286
No one said anything about snuffing out spells. Zendikar's lands habitually get up and move around and the planeswalkers guide mentions that spells act erratically there.
Did you just see a fight going on further up and jumped in ready to argue? Chill man.
>>46775625
You can't just equate living beings to forms of magic. It's not possible to pull other beings from their planes, which is established.
The act of summoning is to pull creatures that you are familiar with from the Aether, which is an element of the Blind Eternities that almost no living things can survive in (some known exceptions are Planeswalkers and Eldrazi). You're using mana and shaping the Aether into a creature that you are familiar with as you pull it into the plane that you're currently residing on.
Other spells, like the instants, sorceries, and enchantments in your spellbook, don't require the manipulation of Aether. To act like they're alike is to simply be incorrect.
>>46775643
Have a more reliable source than MTG Salvation then, anon.
>https://tmblr.co/ZUrCEt1I4jhlz
>https://tmblr.co/ZUrCEt1a8C2it
>Unless something special is going on, planeswalkers can’t bring living beings with them. Only beings with active planeswalker sparks can leave a plane and travel to another one (except for weird and very rare exceptions, such as the Eldrazi titans, or someone with access to some kind of gate).
>Note that summoning creatures is not planeswalking. When you create a baloth out of the aether and have it fight for you, you’re magically creating an instance of baloth-ness, even if you’re summoning it while on Theros and you learned about baloths back on Zendikar. There is not one less baloth on Zendikar due to your summoning spell on Theros — Theros is just +1 baloth, thanks to you making a new one. However, summoned creatures tend to stop existing after a while — they last for a while, long enough to fight for you in a duel or whatever, but not forever.
>There’ve been other models of how summoning and planeswalking work, but that’s how we generally think of them on the team these days.
That's written by Doug Beyer, one of the key members of the creative team. The role of his Tumblr account is to shill the latest MtG fiction and answer the lore-based questions of players.
Kiora does not pull creatures from where they exist on planes because summoning doesn't work that way. She summons copies like every other planeswalker. 'Gathering the essence of every sea-beast she had ever called her own' is just that writer's way of wording it.
>>46775737
Does that mean in theory their could be a couple of hundred Garruk or Gideo babbies crawling around, ready to ignite at any moment across dozens of planes?
>>46775737
It is unknown actually afaik. I don't think the spark works like mutant powers.
>>46775979
I doubt it. Garruk spent all his time in the woods while Gideon is maximum pure, only pure sex in a monogamous relationship with the lights off.
>>46776035
there are bitches to fuck in the woods.
Dryads and centaurs, but still..
>>46775933
1) Living beings are certain combinations of mana. Period. That's why you can even summon them or make duplicates of them. A summon spell is learning the mana combinations that makes up a being.
2) It states that Kiora is pulling the "essence" from other planes. Not forging new creatures from Æther.
3) Planeswalkers can either conjure creatures from pure æther or use the æther to pull creatures to their planes.
4) Æther isn't only located in the Blind Eternities. It's apart of planes as well.
>>46776112
That's a point.
>somewhere out there, a dryad walker lugs around her bonsai tree, looking for a forest that's not absurdly dangerous to lay down her roots.
>>46776141
See >>46775961.
>Note that summoning creatures is not planeswalking. When you create a baloth out of the aether and have it fight for you, you’re magically creating an instance of baloth-ness, even if you’re summoning it while on Theros and you learned about baloths back on Zendikar. There is not one less baloth on Zendikar due to your summoning spell on Theros — Theros is just +1 baloth, thanks to you making a new one. However, summoned creatures tend to stop existing after a while — they last for a while, long enough to fight for you in a duel or whatever, but not forever.
They cannot pull creatures from other planes to their planes. This directly contradicts what a member of the creative team has said and is incorrect.
>>46776141
Christfuck, normal creatures are just platonic ideals while the legends are based on your memories of a specific creature in detail.
Are you the guy with the five color flake?
>>46776213
Dude, summoning can be EITHER summoning a creature to you or using Æther to make a duplicate of a creature. Look at Kiora using Lorthos on Zendikar. She summoned Lorthos. She didn't make a new one.
And in Drop for Drop, it never says she used Æther to make copies of her creatures. It says she pulled their essence across the blind eternities to Theros.
>>46776273
Not always true. Avacyn wasn't a being before Sorin summoned her.
Some summons are created from no other creature.
Some summons are just random generic creature types.
Some summons are specific unique beings.
Some summons are called upon and brought to you from wherever they were.
And some summons are duplicates of other creatures made from the Æther.
>>46776307
Stop using that example. You're just choosing to interpret it one way that specifically empowers your ideals instead of considering it in juxtaposition with other canon information and works. It does not explicitly state that she's calling the real thing PHYSICALLY. There's even a quote where she banishes a serpent that she summoned back to the Aether.
>She pushed her hands against the serpent's great back and willed away, banished it back to the Æther from which it came.
You also shouldn't use Lorthos as an example of summoning for the sake of this argument because LORTHOS IS FROM ZENDIKAR. This is one example where you can literally call the real thing instead of having to settle for making something like him because he could never survive the trip.
>>46776307
Except that contradicts what was written by Doug Beyer. Manifesting the essence of creatures from the Blind Eternies in the seas of Theros is just a way of writing how she duplicated these creatures. Planeswalkers cannot bring creatures directly through the Blind Eternities after the Mending. That isn't written anywhere and what the creative team has written contradicts that.
The Lorthos example is vastly different because that was Kiora calling a legendary creature that existed on the same plane that she was on at the time. There was no Blind Eternities getting in the way or preventing anything.
She wanted to attune Arixmethes to her will so she would be able to conjure a copy of him to fight the Eldrazi. It was something difficult that she couldn't do by 'figuring out what combinations of mana make up his being,' whatever the fuck that means.
>>46776419
Jesus Christ, Sorin didn't "summon" Avacyn, he created her. As in, she did not exist in any shape and form before he made her. Summoning wasn't involved there. Sorin didn't just play a creature card and bam, there's an Avacyn. Not everything in the lore is an allegory for the card game. Plus that was thousands of years before the Mending.
>>46776307
You're falling back on one story, which seems to contradict the body of establish lore. Odds are the bit with Kiora was either an exception (possible) or a lore oversight (more probable).
>>46776273
>normal creatures are just platonic ideals
While I think memories work too, this is a great way to explain it.
>>46763324
>From the actual shard of Esper
>Not made of Metal
Didn't bother reading.
So, let's have a closer look at the sins of the Vronak snowflake.
>He's a five-color snowflake despite not showing any sign of possessing any personality traits or abilities beyond those of black.
>He's got a collection of creatures that are not only legendary but are spread over every color and several planes.
>He isn't really a character. He's just a shell for his creator's five-color reanimator deck. He doesn't even try to depict the deck in an interesting way, he just treats as though he's ordinarily summoning them from the earth.
>His creator wrote a ridiculous fanfiction story in which Vronak interacts with several important canon characters and literally kills a canon planeswalker with ease.
For your entertainment, I will repost the fanfic.
>>46776605
As Vronak arrives on the plane of Ravnica, a looming fog creeps across the City of Guilds. This mysterious planeswalker rises a gauntlet-clad hand as a vibrant green aura surrounds it. His eyes, shrouded by his necromantic mask, begin to radiate the same eerie green aura as three hands burst out from the ground beneath his feet.
Three separate winged beings emerge from the ground as they push themselves from underneath the soil as it pours off their bodies. Their forms are concealed by the thick fog that spreads throughout the entire city of Ravnica. And the fog itself now engulfs the necromancer himself and the three disappear into the night.
And as the heavy fog encases the realm in it's entirety, Jace sit upon his desk having mounds of contracts between various guilds that must have his signature of approval. But, his work would be ultimately interrupted as he hears a loud banging across one of his doors. Wondering who could possibly have pinpointed one of his ever changing portals to know where to find his quarters.
But, of course he already knew the answer to this inquiry. Jace stood up from his desk and moved towards the chamber door that was being assaulted by someone's fist and already knowing who's fist that belonged to that was plaguing his work. He then opened his chamber door to reveal Liliana standing before him. And behind her was the thick fog, which Jace could not see more than a few feet in distance.
>>46776621
Liliana quickly spouted at Jace, "No one has heard from Isperia for hours ever since this retched fog has began. And I have heard word of the same concerning the cyclops Borborygmos... Jace... I think we're in trouble." Jace's more disinterested demeanor shifted to a more concerned expression. "We need to see Niv-Mizzet.", Jace exclaimed and rushed out of his chambers and headed down the city streets.
Liliana followed suit as she could barely see a foot in front of Jace, "How can you even tell where you are going!?", she shouted outward to the control Mage that seemed to always bring some sort of conflict into her life in one fashion or another, though it wasn't like she wasn't the root of most of it anyhow. Jace just kept marching forward at a slightly quickened pace as Liliana followed him further.
"This is my home, Liliana. I know it better than most of the residence here. Almost like it's apart of me...", Jace spoke softly as the two of them rushed towards the direction of the Nivix. And after a short while, the two Planeswalkers reached the towering guildhall of the Izzet. Liliana did not like being this close to the lair of a dragon, especially an intelligent one that she suspected of being a Planeswalker.
But, nevertheless she followed Jace into the guildhall and to the staircase. Jace rushed up the winding staircase, however Liliana just stopped at the first step. "How far up must we go?", she asked but she had a feeling she knew the answer. And Jace so plied replied, "All the way..." Liliana gave a scolding look and spoke underneath her breath, "Damn it."
>>46776634
Liliana just pursued after Jace as the two of them made their way to the top level of the Nivix, only to come before the largest door that Liliana had ever seen before. Jace opened the doors and the two stepped forth towards the great Dracogenius guild leader. Jace looked upward to the larger Dragon and spoke, "Niv-Mizzet, have you heard word of the disappearance of the Azorius and Gruul guild leaders?"
Niv-Mizzet took a deep breath and puffed a large cloud of smoke outwards as he paused a moment in silence before he spoke, "As well as Lazav of House Dimir. And of what concern is it of your's, Living Guildpact?" Jace thought it was obvious that this matter should be his concern, being that he was the Guildpact itself.
"Niv-Mizzet, do you have any idea who could be behind these incidents? Perhaps a Guild trying to take over Ravnica?", Jace inquired of the Dragon. Niv-Mizzet just expressed apathy towards the matter and spoke once more, "It is inconsequential." Jace just looked upwards at the pompous Dragon with an irked expression as he said, "It's of a great consequence to me. And don't you worry about whomever it is possibly coming after yourself!?"
Niv-Mizzet huffed at the thought of something being a threat to his well being. "No being alive could cause me inconvenience, boy.", Niv-Mizzet spoke out towards the young Planeswalker, "The answers you look for lie elsewhere. Try the Golgari Planeswalker for advice... Now, begone with you. You are bothersome."
Jace lowered his head at the thought of coming face to face with Vraska once again after her attempt to murder him. He took a deep breath and turned to Liliana and simply nodded as he walked passed her. Liliana glared heavily at the large Dragon and said in a spiteful manner, "You're an asshole. A giant puckered one at that." Liliana just turned and followed after Jace.
>>46776653
The two of them left the Izzet guildhall and headed to the more more decadent parts of Ravnica, towards the Korozda. Liliana still didn't like being out on the streets with this horrid fog about them. She couldn't see a damn thing, and they were getting ever closer to the parts of Ravnica that was home to the rats and bugs. She hated rats and bugs.
Liliana was growing impatient from all of the roaming about and wondered why Jace was always roaring to go when something dangerous was lurking about, but never willing to lend his aid when she wanted something done for herself. She then shouted at the blue mage, "When the HELL are we going to be th-" Jace reached back with his hand and covered Liliana's mouth.
Jace took a couple steps back to lessen the distance between the two of them as he looked onward. But, Liliana still couldn't see a damn thing in front of her. She narrowed her eyes as she tried to make something out through the thick fog, only to see a figure standing a few yards before them.
Then another figure swooped down towards the figure on the ground, and with a loud gust of wind, the fog was scattered more and Liliana could make out more of what was happening. It was a purple haired angel with a large sword, larger than she had ever seen another angel wield before. And the figure upon the ground was a the gorgon they had been sent to find.
Has there ever been an example of a time where there was a creature in a plane that there shouldn't usually be? like a satyr in innistrad or an elf in theros or something similar?
>>46776671
The angel lashed towards Vraska and in the blink of an eye she had impaled the gorgon Planeswalker upon her sword. Lifting the gorgon's body up off the ground as she claimed victory over her. Only to then swipe to her side and toss the gorgon's body onto the ground. And from a distance behind the angel, a cloaked figure wearing a grimly horned mask walked towards the gorgon's body and he kneeled beside her.
The cloaked figure reached out and placed a couple of fingers upon Vraska's head and he spoke in a deep bellowing voice that echoed from behind his mask, "I cannot acquire you... You are... You 'were' like me." Vraska looked up at the cloaked man as she laid there taking her final breaths. She knew it was over for her and the fear was visible in her eyes.
The cloaked man arose to his feet and took a step back as his angel lunged forward and plunged her mighty sword into the gorgon's head, cutting it clean in half from the split of her lips. And when the angel pulled her sword from the gravel, the gorgon's head was severed from the jaw. The angel then turned her head as she looked directly towards the two Planeswalkers that stood in the distance, watching the conflict.
>Thankfully, Vronak's author stopped after this.
>>46776488
Doug Beywr isn't the end all be all. And WotC has already said that summoning can be either calling upon and duplicating a creature.
Stop acting like one instance is the only instance. There are literally dozens of instances of both occurring. Now, stop being a colossal faggot.
>>46776488
It was not thousands of years before the mending. Sorin created Avacyn literally just before the first Zendikar block.
Learn your shit.
>>46776691
>>46776671
Top fucking kek. He "summons" Akroma out of the dirt of Ravnica and kills another Planeswalker? A real lore one. Jesus, the snowflake is strong. (Nevermind summoning Akroma, which would take plenty of White mana, and showing no traits associated with White mana.)
>>46776698
WotC has said that summoning can ONLY be duplicating, post-Mending. Period, end of story.
Any summoning that involved bringing the real creature happened before the Mending. Things that were true before the Mending are not always true afterwards - it did NOT just affect the Planeswalker spark, but the multiverse as a whole.
>>46776698
He is the senior creative designer. When it comes to the lore of Magic the Gathering, he actually is the be-all and end-all. After the Mending, there literally isn't a single instance of a planeswalker summoning a creature from one plane to another. It's impossible for them.
>>46776743
>http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/stirring-slumber-2015-05-13
>This was not the great reawakening of the Eldrazi seen in the storyline of Rise of the Eldrazi—the titans themselves remained imprisoned, even as their lineages ravaged Zendikar. This was around a thousand years earlier, and it might have led to a great rising…were it not for Nahiri standing in the way.
And at the end:
>Nahiri laid a gentle hand on the wall of the chamber and it melted away as she opened a pathway through the Blind Eternities. The walls of the chamber became bleak cliffs in a desolate mountain range. She took a deep breath of unfamiliar air and stepped into this other plane, eager to find her oldest friend.
This leads on to Promises Old and New:
>http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/promises-old-and-new-2016-04-13
>Sorin's consciousness had been spread out across the weeks he'd been down here. Or was it months? Years? He couldn't be certain, but in the midst of his trance, a spot of white found him. It cut through all the layers of his awareness, growing closer with each moment, until finally, it touched him. And then, in the span of a heartbeat, the wayward parts of his mind scrambled over each other to find their correct places in his being. The rush was almost too great for him bear. Something had gone wrong. Something had pulled him prematurely from his restoration.
If you need to explain this for you, Nahiri visits Sorin literally a thousand years before the first Zendikar block. When she arrives, she interrupts him recovering from his creation of Avacyn. Avacyn was created a thousand years before the Zendikar block.
Learn your shit.
>>46776743
Up until Zendikar, Sorin was fucking around all over the multiverse. He created Avacyn so he specifically could walk away and not have to worry about Innistrad falling into total chaos.
>>46772783
Almost done with Gaia
>>46776605
> personality traits
What is his personality traits then? It's just a brief bio, not an entire story to get an idea of his inner most thoughts and ideals.
> collection of legendary creatures
Not all of his summons are legendary. And of course they are spread across all colors of mana, he's a Reanimator and a Domain Planeswalker.
> isn't really a character
Now you're just being autistic. Like special ed levels of autistic.
> doesn't depict deck interestingly
Another autistic statement.
> just treats it as summoning from earth
> earth
What does the spell entomb do? What does the spell reanimate do?
> interacted with several
He interacted with one and only one. And yes, the story had him killing off a Planeswalker that was made to be killed off. Not even a major planeswalker. And it was just a story. Nothing to do with the snowflakes at all. Just something for amusement while we waited.
And you do realize that snowflakes are supposed to use real cards as the basis for their spellbook, right?
Also, you keep tossing around accusations of the character's personality or depth, when none of it has been established. Only a briefing for the snowflakes. Stop acting like the snowflake bios' are the be Ann end all for those character's personalities and potential character developement.
>>46776605
I have a feeling that your snowflake is the angel one.
And I have a feeling that you are the anon that wants Elspeth to become an angel.
>>46776689
There are a lot of articles about races that aren't native to other planes. Like the Vedalken, Vampires, Slivers, Kithkin, and Dragons.
>>46776975
>>46776959
The over-protective nerdrage is delicious.
>>46776975
>>46769907
Probably not, anon. The angel flake helped the reanimator flake make his card earlier in the thread since the latter was on his phone.
>>46776841
Source?
I ask because I know there are none. As they never said it was only duplicating.
>>46776791
Learn what Reanimator does.
>>46776689
The main issue is with Ajani. Imagine a giant catperson on Innistrad or Tarkir. Leonin were on Theros entirely for the purpose of making him not stand out like a sore thumb there. Every set he has been a part of has involved leonin because of that.
>>46776869
Where does it say that when Nahiri visited Sorin on Innistrad that it was thousands of years ago?
>>46777060
Oh, I'm not raging. I'm merely rebuttling.
>>46777076
Not that one from today. The other one from the other day.
>>46777126
He has a skin condition.
>>46777155
Jesus Christ, must I piece this together to you bit by fucking bit? Are you that dense and incapable of reading and basic logic?
>http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/stirring-slumber-2015-05-13
>What had Sorin been doing all the years she had been cocooned here in the Eye of Ugin? Was he still alive? Had he forgotten her and her vigil over Zendikar? Had he succumbed to the same apathy that had held her for so long?
>She would go and find him, wake him up if she needed to, remind him of her and Zendikar and the friendship they had once shared, remind him what it was to live, to feel, to care. She had saved Zendikar, and now she would save him. And then she would return and walk among her people again, she would teach and laugh and love again, and it would matter again. It would all matter.
>Nahiri laid a gentle hand on the wall of the chamber and it melted away as she opened a pathway through the Blind Eternities. The walls of the chamber became bleak cliffs in a desolate mountain range. She took a deep breath of unfamiliar air and stepped into this other plane, eager to find her oldest friend.
This is at the end of a story in which she stops an Eldrazi incursion a thousand years before the Zendikar Block.
>http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/promises-old-and-new-2016-04-13
>She was a kor from Zendikar whom he'd known millennia ago. They had traveled together for a time, but not for many years, and the sight of her here on Innistrad struck Sorin as an oddity. In all their travels, he'd never brought her here. Their last encounter had been on her home plane, and because of the nature of their parting, he never thought he'd see her again.
He last saw her on Zendikar after they imprisoned the Eldrazi. This means that when she left to visit him in Stirring from Slumber, the next time she saw him was in Promises Old and New.
Do you think she took over a thousand years to awaken Sorin or to arrive on Innistrad?
