Hey hightech lowlifes.
I have a last minute cyberpunk game (cyberpunk 2020) coming up, and I am short on any new street level hooks. Any suggestions?
Dumping cyberpunk pics.
>>46741762
>>46741785
Can we have a definitive list of cyberpunk film and books?
Pic related
>>46741856
>Neuromancer is required reading. No questions
>Snowcrash
>Do androids dream of electric sheep
>Ghost in the Shell
>Bladerunner (Final cut only.)
>>46741998
DADOES was trash
>>46741881
>definitive
>Cyber City Oedo
>>46741762
What kinda players you got, builds-wise.
>>46744101
So was your mother, but your dear old dad just gritted his teeth and plowed on through. Anyone who share's your same awful opinion should just do the same.
>>46747588
>your dear old dad just gritted his teeth and plowed on through
APEX KEK
Nice one m8
These threads always die fast cause nobody's got anything new or intelligent to say about cyberpunk.
Retard here.
Can someone explain what differentiates cyberpunk from science fiction set in a futuristic dystopian setting?
What would you label the Netrunner world as? Why?
Anyone check the Hua Yuan page?
>>46753286
Cyberpunk IS science fiction set in a futuristic dystopian setting, but it became it's own genre in the 1980s precisely because it broke away from the old futuristic dystopias of the 50s/60s/70s and added it's own punk elements, such as gritty street characters (and not heroic scientists/commandos), grungy street tech, and most importantly hacking/cyberspace/virtual realty, which was a new thing back then.
Also, cyberpunk settings aren't dystopias 300 years from now on the planet Zorglarax, they're extrapolations of current trends and fears 50 years into the future, with actual countries (like the US, Japan, Russia, etc.) that exist today. They're not completely invented scifi but try to stay grounded in extrapolations of current tech, politics, economics and culture.
>>46753917
While I've loved every piece of cyberpunk I've encountered, it seems like an oddly specific subgenre with several prerequisites to have as much popularity as it does.
Is there a list of nomenclature for other subgenres of science fiction anywhere? It would be interesting to learn what separates them from each other.
>>46753286
Cyberpunk is a sub-class of science fiction dystopia. Basically there are a whole bunch of traits a science fiction dystopia can have that are associated with cyberpunk. A setting becomes cyberpunk when there are enough of these traits present. Because no one can agree which traits are cyberpunk or how many a work needs to be considered cyberpunk it's very difficult to discuss the genre outside a group of core classics.
>>46741762
For me, what most cyberpunk literature and rpg completely miss is the squalor of the slums. The children searching through garbage to find some food, the teenagers selling their asses to corporate dirtbags to pay for their daily dose of dorph, the gangs who produce snuff SimStim and sell the victim's organs to some Chinese bodybanks, corrupt cops ransoming poor people who try to make end meet, etc.
Probably the best thing in this regard was the comics Rank Xerox. It was dirty, brutal, and vulgar.
>>46754336
I'm going to be lazy and just point you to this. There are better references out there, like the Encyclopedia of Science Fiction, but those aren't free in their entirety.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Science_fiction_genres
http://www.sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/cyberpunk
>>46754633
So were the Takashi Kovacs novels, as well as The Black Man.
>and your pedo is showing
>>46755047
>and your pedo is showing
Implying Rank Xerox comics were not available in the supermarkets.
>>46755379
Lots of crazy stuff was/is available in Europe and Japan at supermarkets.
But keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better, pedobear.
>>46754633
>>46755796
I don't like how provocatively that 14 year old girl is dressed.
>>46755847
You might not be the target audience then.
Good citizens, please purchase public assembly permits via this AR kiosk, failure to comply will prompt the forceful dispersal of this public gathering.
>>46753286
This seems like such obvious bait. If it was legit, they'd give their thoughts first, not set it up so they could shoot down others' opinions.
>>46756519
>world's best mom
I-is that a female?
>>46756555
It was pure curiosity.
I didn't want to seem like a jackass and state my wrong views on what I thought the difference was.
Chill babe.
>>46756600
Look closely at the armour.
Can anybody point me to a depository of Cyberpunk 2020 PDFs?
>>46757681
I posted it yesterday damn it.
https://mega.nz/#F!6kkFkLaa!6EZSzqCRAasDWlkLeo9ibQ
>>46758179
ty anon
>>46755847
>Western loli
>makes anon uncomfortable
I dunno, it looks like the same thing as loli, only in a different animation style, but more honest about the sexualization of its focal characters.
Stilldisgusting pedoshiteither way.
>>46741998
>No The Water Knife
>No Oryx and Crake
>No Rifters trilogy
Anyone got the sketchup for a google gun? Or something similar?
>>46761605
Google gun?
Have some cyberpunk works
Burning Chrome - Gibson
http://pastebin.com/zvmCZhNJ
I've got most of the short story collection from the book, if there's any others people want.
Pretty Boy Crossover - Pat Cardiagn
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bzy1xzxa-BxyVmFhUl9qcGg4WGs
Another short
Hardwired - Walter Jon Williams
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzy1xzxa-BxyeUg5NGoxTUhpXzg/view?usp=sharing
Bit more post-apoclyptic than most, but very good.
When Gravity Fails - George Alec Effinger
http://www.fiction2.com/when-gravity-fails-online-george-alec-effinger
Pretty good, an unusual middle-eastern/north african setting
pdf related is one of the novels for FFG's Android universe - not quite as pure cyberpunk, there's less drugs and not everything's shitty. Still okay though, and a good intro the the Android world
>>46761903
>When Gravity Fails - George Alec Effinger
That series are the three best cyberpunk books of the 80s
>>46761927
I've just finished the 1st one, ending was a little weak, but I liked it overall
>>46761958
They're still one of the few science fiction books where I believe the author actually had a healthy and active social life
>>46741762
There are two rival gangs, with a long history of violence between them. At the moment, an uneasy peace has been struck.
The leader/2IC (better option, desu) of one of the gangs has been murdered and it looks like the handy work of the rival gang. But one of the other gang members (from the dead guy's gang) has his suspicions, and asks the players to investigate. Maybe it's the leader of the (dead guy's) gang, trying to stir up tension and shore up his position. Maybe the dead guy was instrumental in brokering/helping the peace, and the leader didn't like that. Maybe it was a third party that wants to weaken both in order to move in on one or the other (or both) gang's turf/operations. Who knows?
>>46744101
nah
>>46741881
it's a lot more fantastical in nature than normal Cyberpunk, but Cybernetics Guardian is a pretty good short OVA
>>46761903
>not quite as pure cyberpunk, there's less drugs and not everything's shitty
Cyberpunk works best in my opinion when not everything is a heap of crap, indeed most of the setting should be reasonably decent to live in, even if you aren't rich, much like the real world in fact(not to mention if you push the dystopic aspects too hard then things just become tedious to read about)
>>46758179
so is that everything, or is there stuff missing from it?
>>46767964
>
The other 2013 books are, but look up the pdf thread, they're there.
>>46741762
How would you Cyberpunk your own home town or City?
In 2020 my city is...
Is the bridge trilogy any good?
>>46768443
>2020
That's 4 years away, unless you mean CP2020-ifiying it
Still, I'll give it a shot
>>46753130
What's the definition of cyberpunk?
>>46769863
Shut up, you shitdisturber. There's no sane definition anyone can ever agree on, so let's not go there.
>>46768531
Virtual Light is great. Haven't read the others yet.
>>46769863
What, you just want to prove his point by saying nothing intelligent?
>>46769863
Without using any 'high tech low life' type slogan crap, I'd say a setting/genre set in a dystopian nearfuture.
Definitions don't always catch the full meaning of something.
>>46769877
Calm your tits. The thread was dying. I just revived it by asking a simple question.
Dropped in to post the most cyberpunk album of all time: Billy Idol's Cyberpunk. https://youtu.be/wr-fCLkurmk
>>46769863
>What's the definition of cyberpunk?
1080p
>>46770027
Depends if it's 8-bit or 16-bit cyberpunk.
>>46770027
Not cyber enough
Make it 4080p atleast
>>46769863
2020p
Enki Bilal is an often overlooked artist.
>>46770640
Tentacles?
>>46770007
With Marvel in mind, everyone should check Ghostrider 2099, it falls flat on it's face after 10 or so episode due to writer and artist changes but, man, was it a waste of good world building,,,
>>46744101
DADOES is fantastic, it's just not very cyberpunk.
>>46770640
any recommendations of stuff he's worked on?
for reasons
>>46771665
Nikopol is probably the go to standard.
But I would also recommend a lot of his early cooperations (in the context of cyberpunk probably Exterminator 17 more than his work with Crispin).
Also: Tycho Moon (one of his movies).
>>46771614
>Winner of 1999 Award for Most Cyberpunk References
Yeah, it was fun, same with Punisher 2099.
>>46775418
It would have faired better if the 'supers' wouldn't have been so 'super'. Part from the main characters, the dystopia it created was and is very well grounded to reality and grit.
I liked Neuromancer, a while back, I take it the other two in the sprawl trilogy are worth it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9V7rz2Dg7g
Just realized I'll be 70 by the 2070s, too old to partake in the incredible cyberpunk future. Why was I born in such a boring time?
if we talk comics, american flagg! is one i heve come across. it's a little more rollerball/deathrace, but still kickass.
>>46780218
Holy shit, your comment made me realise (kinda dumbly, given my own DOB, but then I am drunk) that it'll be but 2 years that post-millennium births will be >18
I'm also pretty interested in seeing what the history books of the 2050+s say about the turn of the millennium - other than 9/11 and the crash of 2008, which kind of make the '00s a "decade" that only lasted 7 years
At least we got to see/be part of the rise of the internet, I guess, and important shit is being done, science-wise
>>46780461
>The advent of ubiquitous mass portable computing
>mass citizen journalism
>voluntary panopticon
Can't wait for the 20s
>widespread civic unrest
>resource wars
>>46780496
Ah, can we at bring back flappers?
Or at least not have world war in the next couple of years?
And really, the panopticon is not nearly as competent as people give it credit for - mostly it just wants to sell us shit
>>46780720
>Or at least not have world war in the next couple of years?
Globalization says that won't happen, nerd.
>>46781480
Fucking good. I like that I can get a whatever in Prague or Pittburg or Phnom Penh and it'll taste more or less the same.
And yeah, it's kind of obvious we won't get another world war - something to be happy about, eh?
Still, the anon a few posts back makes a good point - how does adding a shit-ton of surveillance (private, government, even public) affect your cyberpunk world?
>>46781684
I keep my cyberpunk 80s. Real life 21st century problems and "Cyberpunk" is boring and shite.
>>46782163
>is boring and shite.
So is you
So is your lifeSo am I too
So, tell us about your 80s-focussed cyberpunk
>>46782163
>tfw that switch to post-cyberpunk
I wouldn't mind if Gibson wouldn't talk shit about the Sprawl trilogy every time someone brings it up.
>>46741762
Make a hook about tailing the guy in your picture there, have banana shirt work with foreign drug cartels that are pushing on local cartel activities or something.
>>46782299
The 21st century wasn't cool at all, unlike the genre predicted.
We need more anarchic collapsed future and less stupid lame privacy obsessed future. Combat zones and boostergangs and chromers and glam rock, yes?
>>46741762
Is that Yazan Gable wearing a powerglove?
>>46756519
Slot it, copper.
