>GM is a VERY devout Christian.
>All evil religions resemble Christian churches and cults.
Weird.
>>46699283
Maybe he is a heretic
>>46699308
no u
>>46699308
Maybe he's aself-aware person
>>46699342
God forbid.
>>46699283
He sounds like a faggot.
Alternatively, he just doesn't have a lot of imagination and is aping what he knows.
Alternatively alternatively, you're using the term 'resemble' very loosely.
>>46699283
Write what you know
>>46699283
Hey man, write what you know.
>>46699334
No, anon. You are the heretics.
And then anon was a traitor
>turns out the GM was basing these cults around Islam
>>46699283
A lot of religious folks aknowledge the existence of scumbags within their faiths.
It's not that unreasonable for someone to write familiar villains.
>>46699376
>turns out the GM was basing these cults around Judaism
>>46699376
>turns out islam is nearly indistinguishable from some christian sects
>>46699283
Well let's be honest here, how many other religions made churches out of bones?
Turns out religions and religious people, many of which are ancient institutions filled with unique individuals, are a little more complex than they seem on the bare surface, who would have guessed?
>>46699407
>turns out some christian sects are very loosely related to Jesus
>>46699427
Hinduists could do that
Nothing weird about that, in WH 40k and WHFB my favorite races are the Empire and Imperium. And I dispise real life zealous bastards. I just enjoy fictional settings because they're fictional
>>46699436
>Turns out Jesus was Buddha
>Player is a devout Catholic, the whole "wait till marriage" and all, very polite, reserved and shy as well
>Is incredibly lewd and sexual in game, to the point of being offensively disturbing
SEND HELP NOW
>>46699454
Nah, dead bodies are considered taboo to touch and the Temple of the Aghori are just graveyards/cremation grounds anyway
>>46699496
Give us the guy's ZIP and we can see about getting him a hooker and some blow.
>>46699517
It's a she.
>>46699531
Doesn't change anything.
>>46699283
So, a guy that separates real life and game?
>>46699531
Give us the girls's ZIP and we can see about getting her a hooker and some blow.
>>46699531
That explains everything.
>>46699531
Okay...so give us her ZIP so we can see about getting her a hooker and some blow.
>>46699541
>Wait till marriage and won't have anything to do with drugs.
>>46699568
Yes...and?
>>46699568
You totally sure about that?
>GM is Christian.
>Never comes up in games
>Doesn't insert Christianity as a religion into his games
>Saves the religious discussion for after the game
>Still only plays LG or CG when someone pulls out D&D
>>46699612
All signs point to yes.
>>46699283
Christianity has a lot of sects. Maybe he'sdemonizingheretics.
>>46699283
Gee, it's like it's possible to criticise the group you're a part of.
Crazy, right?
>>46699283
When you're religious, you tend to notice a LOT of heretics.
>>46699622
Forgot to mention
>Once played a LE barbarian
>Traumatized the group with excessively vivid descriptions of rape-murdering enemies mid-battle. (More on the gore and not the dick)
>Nobody really wants him to play evil alignments anymore.
>>46699283
He may be an Inquisitor-type - he is a True Believer in his cause, but absolutely despises when others manipulate the Cause for their own ends or corrupt the beliefs to serve other entities.
The Great Enemy isn't necessarily the Unbeliever, but the Believer who thinks that God serves him, instead of the other way around.DEUS VULT
>>46699625
Yes, arrange the hooker and blow or yes, she's not game?
>>46699469
>Turns out God's plan involves all the religions
>It's actually a test to see what proportion of people would overcome bigotry and ethnocentrism
>People who overall act like bros despite inter-group differences (including religion) pass
>People who acted like dicks are shown the truth and set on a path to redemption in heaven
>Hell never existed, it was a lie to see how many people could overcome such a threat
>Lucifer is just the angel counting and analyzing "wicked" souls before sending them back to heaven
>Judgement Day is essentially just God pausing creation to run statistical tests on the data he gathered regarding free will and morality.
>>46699283
Christianity is a pretty fragmented religion, aside from the Protestants and the Catholics there are numerous other smaller subgroups that both would consider heretical. As a matter of fact, a devout Christian would be the most likely to call out other Christians who don't follow their particular narrow interpretation of the scripture, or like some devout Christians I know, they wouldn't know their own scripture if it bit them in the ass and they just assume everyone else is wrong because muh feels.
>>46699669
Yes I don't think she'd be game. I can say for certain on the drugs part.
>>46699677
About 1/5 of that is what Mormons believe.
They have a very pleasant end of the world
>>46699692
Well, the blow is mostly for the hooker anyways.
>>46699283
>Resemble Christian churches and cults
So a Protestant who bought too much into the "Catholicism is the Church of Satan" BS?
Or a particularily stake-happy Catholic?
>>46699677
Sounds pretty legit m8, I'm Episcopalian btw.
I hate listening to tg talk about religion, so much ignorance
>>46700031
>I hate listening to tg talk about religion, so much ignorance
This isn't exactly a theology forum.
Also, we're pretty ignorant about everything here. Including the topics we're supposed to focus on.
>>46699677
Methodist here. Makes sense to me
People aren't one dimensional and monolithic? What the fuck?
>>46699677
Deist here and I am perfectly okay with this idea. Is there a specific denomination with this view because I like this view?
>>46699283
Not all christians are the same. GM might have a very cynical view of religious organizations, or might have a cynical view of specific christian organizations and not very christian-y. GM might be fairly self-aware, willing to make fun of themselves a bit. GM might be blatantly not self-aware, and while modeling the evil religions after something they know, doesn't realize what they've done. GM might think that any non-christian religion is silly and can't see how anyone would follow such a thing, which is why all religions behave like christianity in their setting.
>>46699531
Even better.
>>46700779
Universalism, sort of
>>46699677
another Deist here, this is about what I suspect already. At the very least, I'll bet my bottom dollar that God and the Devil are actually on the same side, just playing "good cop/bad cop" with us all.
Are they like his branch of Christianity? Some of them don't like each other very much.
>>46700779
>Is there a specific denomination with this view because I like this view?
Not that I know of.
I made it up because it's one of very few ways I could think of to reconcile some of the ideas that I see conflicting in religion. Mainly those include earthly suffering, the existence of multiple belief systems, conflict between groups of humans, a benevolent and all-powerful creator (or at least one who isn't a total maniac), and a comprehensible reason for judgement to happen. It does compromise by removing the idea of an all-knowing God, since such a being wouldn't need to judge or test people - he already would know the answers.
I'm an Atheist with a stats background. The idea of an all-powerful deity running the world as a sort of experiment appeals to me, for the reasons I've mentioned. I took some inspiration from satire, including (among others) some panels of SMBC, and that one xkcd where Earth was a science project for some aliens.
>>46699283
There's nothing a Christian hates more than another Christian. Was Vlad Tepes defeated by the Mohammedians? No, he was betrayed by Christians.
>>46700031
>perfectly civil discussion about religion, no insulting, no "you're going to hell", etc
>"So much ignorance"
What exactly has been said here that is so "ignorant"? Let me guess, you're getting your panties in a twist because your particular faith is being discussed in a mostly objective manner, and feel offended that it isn't an echo chamber of "PRAYZ JEEBUS!", right?
You want to see the kind of ignorant shitstorm that religious discussions can really cause? Go to /x/ and see how they handle it, faggot.
>>46699677
The Devil's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.
>>46701649
>The Devil's greatest trick was convincing people that he is actually God, and now has people celebrating the torture and execution of an innocent man for a blood sacrifice to him as "good news"
FTFY
>>46701679
Sure guy
>implying all religion isn't heresy
>>46701527
> It does compromise by removing the idea of an all-knowing God, since such a being wouldn't need to judge or test people - he already would know the answers.
Just remember the three pillars
god is all knowing
god is all powerful
god is all loving (or something to that effect)
but if he is all knowing and all powerful, he is not all loving, if he is all loving and all powerful then he is not all knowing etc
the idea is that based on world history with many a fucked up thing happening, god simply either doesn't care about our suffering, doesn't know about our suffering or god can't stop our suffering.
this isn't necessarily an atheist viewpoint either. Just something worth considering.
>>46699283
It could be he is having difficulty reconciling christian dogma with the world around him despite believing in a god. He may well harbor thoughts that maybe the denominations are just full of shit and have twisted the idea of god to suit their own needs, hence all the evil religions using the"all powerful god" to conveniently spread their political message
>>46701768
>Sure guy
>posts a pic that's completely irrelevant to what was said
Nice counter-argument. How ever will I contest the flawless logic and concise points you made?
Sarcasm alert, by the way.
>tfw christian
>4/5 of my characters end up some variation of cleric or paladin
>always end up making a religious character, even when not playing a class that requires a deity
Some part of me feel's it's some kind of subconscious self-inserting, but I've gone from a god of water and healing, to a god of hedonism and debauchery, to a god of disease and eternal suffering, to a god that's just a fucking psychic cat that obtained divinity.
>>46702385
>>46702446
>>46702385
Try just making a character that's doesn't care about the gods, maybe he/she feels they are just ponced up demons or the like. the contrast between the character and you could be fun to RP.
>>46699531
Fuck her silly, anal or vag. Fill her up.
>>46699666
Go Satan.
>>46699677
This would be hilarious.
>>46702385
>a god that's just a fucking psychic cat that obtained divinity.
I want to hear about this, been toying around with an Idea similar for a campaign and im looking for ideas. Any info would be much appreciated.
>>46702074
What if G_d is a consequentialist and this really *is* the best of all possible worlds?
>>46699677
I kind of like the Jewish version of hell where you don't spend eternity there and it just burns all the evil from your soul until nothing but pure good is left.
>>46699677
>sacrifice doesn't lead to salvation, it's the things I learned from Sesame Street!
Yeah, no. You've drank too much globalist kool-aid. "Acting like a bro" is no way to gain solid, blood-veined enlightenment. Everyone that claimed a religion and said your gutless heaven sounds good doesn't understand theirs.
>>46702165
Or it could be how frustrated Christians get with other Christians. Might not have anything to do with you one-upping them on truth. They might have, get this, accepted that there is no threshold of suffering beyond which a compassionate God is impossible. Yeah, that's right, maybe someone thought about theodicy and figured God came out ahead before.
>>46702074
This is based on the idea that there is no value to suffering, or that suffering does not lead to greater joy.
>>46704043
Honestly I don't think there's much value in many of the fucked up things that have happened in wars, both ancient and modern. Some pretty revolting stuff has been done and the people who suffered weren't necessarilly led to a greater joy.
are you sure it's christian churches and not jews
>>46704043
>This is based on the idea that there is no value to suffering,
There's lots of value to suffering, no one would deny that. For example, erotic pleasure for sadists.
>or that suffering does not lead to greater joy.
There really isn't need for suffering beyond the level of, say, a toothache. Being grievously crushed or burned certainly is not necessary.
>>46699283
> GM's a huge nerd
> BBEG's a wizard
Weird.
>>46704870
well they gotta have some decent powers to be a BBEG and not just an EG
>>46699283
>GM doesn't mind that the setting inverts or disagrees with his real world values and convictions.
Good for him. How is this weird?
>GM lives in a modern liberal society.
>The setting is a backwards shithole where might makes right and slavery and racial tension are common.
Weird.
>GM lives in a setting with indoor plumbling
>Barbarians shit in the woods.
Weird.
>>46704910
Excellent.
>>46702165
>>46700891
>>46699730
Maybe he's just okay with separating what he views as fiction with what he views as reality.
You know, like an adult.
Not everyone flips the table if the game setting doesn't 100% line up with their personal convictions.
Nobody would have this fucking stupid discussion because a nice person living in 2016 plays a game where a lot of conflict is resolved by murdering the fuck out of people, so why must there be some kind of giant conflict that you guys need to analyze when someone who's christian DM's a setting with evil religions?
>>46705191
his family is hungry
>>46703797
That's Islamic, not Jewish. Jews don't even believe in hell.
>friend is VERY militant atheist and generally left-wing "anti-authoritarian"
>loves 40k, the Imperium of Man, and the Black Templars
>tfw I'm basically /pol/ and I love them too
>>46705729
That only happens if you have Iman. If not, you will burn in hell forever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iman_(concept)
>>46703797
That's not the Jewish version of Hell (they believe in bodily resurrection on Judgment Day and some have serious issues about transplants etc. as a result), you're thinking of Erebus from Werewolf the Apocalypse.
>>46699283
>GM is a devout Mormon
>Makes fantasy Not!Mormons
>makes it clear how cool and good the fantasy Not!Mormons
>all the NPCs love the Not!Mormon church
disapointing
>>46699283
Define evil religion
Define in what exactly christian churches and cults are any different from the churches and cults of any other religion except the shape of their towers and the holy symbols
>>46699283
>Girlfriend is a devout Christian
>She loves 40k, expecially the Inquisition on the basis it is even more arrogant, badass and show-off than Chaos, which is pretty show-off for itself
>Her favourite Chaos God was Slaanesh, until i made her know Tzeentch a bit more
Well pick me up from the shelf and pass me to the cashier, cuz i'm fucking sold
>>46699283
>The evil religions are based off the WBC
>>46699283
Well, if GM is a devout christian he probably doesn't know that much about other religions, at least not enough to bother to portray them
>>46702385
I have a militantly atheist friend that always plays a cleric or a paladin.
>>46699283
Why would he denounce their organizations when it's their faith that's wrong?
You can be a Christian without liking the christian organizations.
Why the fuck does "I like the thoughts of this carpenter who lived 2000 years ago" have to also mean "I support some faggot ass dudes in robes who spend our taxpayer money while they molest kids".
>>46708740
Careful with that edge
>>46699283
>be 100% firm in my belief that there's no such thing as magic
>play in games that feature magic
Weird.
>>46708774
What edge? In the eyes of the average Faithful of A, the issues is not how Faithful of B's religion is organized, it's what he has faith in.
>>46702385
>>46702591
I, too, wish to hear about psychic cat god.
>>46699363
>>46699368
These.
Also, nobody hates Christian sects like a member of a slightly different Christian sect. The narcissism of small differences and all that.
>GM very militant athiest.
>Gods exist in his setting.
Weird
>>46706592
WBC? White blood cells?
>>46699283
>GM is God
>Lets OP play a character with good stats
Weird
>>46699342
physically imposible
>>46699283
You write what you know. I've seen a lot of evil christianity-like religions in Fantasy. Gene Wolfe is a devout catholic, and all his religions are inspired by Catholicism because he knows their hierarchy, beliefs, rituals etc and he likes to use it.
>>46699531
let 'er rip anon, just go right deep in there and spaghetti
>>46699283
Look forward for a DMPC "heretical" cleric with a speech tldr'd into "Fuck churches, fuck idol-icons, fuck candles and fat-assed monks, this is all pagan shit, god cares not about gilded crosses but about your soul"
>>46710756
Westboro Baptist Church. Crazy shit. Look 'em up.
>>46699407
Virtually indistinguishable from heresy.
>>46711156
>google it
>first thing i see is "GOD HATES FAGS"
>oh the irony
Another cross-weaving empty-skulled snotlings who think it matters where do you stick your dick. Why should I look up this pile of manure?
>>46711326
Because you asked what that acronym stood for? Did you get so triggered that you completely blanked on the context of the conversation?
>>46711531
Oops. Sorry, I left another post here, thought yours was a response to >>46711098.
derpderp
>>46703797
Jewish hell is glueing a bank note to pavement
>>46699677
As a Catholic,I'd be okay with it
>>46709996
this is very true.
i am an Episcopalian, and it is easier for me to understand the draws/philosophy of Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, Sikhism, etc than it is for me to understand Jehovah's witnesses.
to me they are so antithetical to my form of Christianity that i cant understand them.
>>46699427
Buddhists used to take monks who meditated to death and plaster them to turn them into Buddha statues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg4i8pot9gs
relevent
>>46699387
Holy shit this
>>46699469
Turns out Jesus was just a guy who never died.
>>46699677
I don't think that's how it works but it would not surprise me
>>46706034
this goes along with the concept of dhimmi
in islam christians and jews (and arguably Zoroastrians, buddhists, and some hindus) are considered "acceptable citizens" and have a place in paradise, but should be converted if possible.
>>46701768
Go back to /pol/ you dunce
>le bogaymin
No, you're just being an asswipe making this about muh librils
I'm pretty atheist, but I enjoy playing religious characters. Then again, I purposefully go for characters that are unlike me, just so that I'm not playing the same thing over and over again.
>>46708773
This
>>46711326
Actually it's part cult - the cultists tithing gives the elite massive houses and TVs and cars etc - and part 1st amendment trolling
Basically they all train as amateur lawyers and deliberately provoke people into attacking them or trying to remove their placards away then sue them for shekels
Example - turning up to a woman's funeral and shouting at her 5 year old son she is going to burn in hell
Some cunt who went to film them realised how much they were making and ended up joining the elite
The head couples daughters all left as soon as they got to college
>>46712154
IIRC, he wasn't also the Budda, he just learned the philosophy and tried to teach it in a way the people of the time would understand.I personally felt that plot point was jut an unnecessary "fuck you" to Christianity that didn't really need to be there, but I did like the movie overall.
>>46699363 Came here to post this.
>>46703975
>A theory in which the over aching goal is to promote the good in humanity
>Nah, that's pussy shit, we should all be dicks to each other for zero reason.
