In LOTR (books) Orcs were just another name for Goblins and were smaller than humans when did Orcs became creatures in their own right that look like Hulk clones? Also I believe goblins are better villains exactly because they are small violent shits.
>>46503966
>when did Orcs became creatures in their own right that look like Hulk clones?
When Saruman started doing it?
>>46504048
even Uruks were ''almost Man-height'' so not really
>>46504048
Speaking of Saruman, could he have controlled the Ring if he had gotten it?
>>46504129
lol no
He was blinded by the lure like anyone else
>>46504129
Nope. He wasn't strong enough. Even Gandalf, who became the new Saruman, wasn't strong enough.
>>46504129
Nope, literally no one but Sauron commands the ring, it's a part of him. A big part of the ring's power is lying to people and telling them they can though.
>>46504157
>>46504179
>>46504194
That's kind of sad to hear. Saruman really is pitiful.
>>46503966
>when did Orcs became creatures in their own right that look like Hulk clones?
Warcraft.
Warcraft invented the hulky green orcs, heavily inspired by Games Workshops green orcs, that were more comical than hulky, and were painted green because black looked shit in photos.
That's it.
>>46504194
Could someone really high up the chain (say, Manwë) wear the ring and tell Sauron's influence to fuck off, or is the lure equally enticing no matter who you are?
>>46504323
Anyone strong enough to resist it probably wouldn't get anything out of having the ring.
>>46504263
He's the Darth Maul of LotR.
>>46504323
The ring might play along if someone that powerful wears it. It's devious enough to know when to lay low and bide its' time. Dwarves were also resistant to Sauron's will, so instead their rings tempted them with promises of treasure in order to be lost, like what happened with Thròr when he just walked right into Azog's hands.
>>46504323
Tom Bombadil could wear it but wouldn't because he doesn't give a fuck.
>>46504573
who the fuck is Tom Bombadil?
>>46504597
A prancing fag with the world's hottest wife and he might be God.
>>46504597
A personification of nature or God.
A character influenced by the stories that Tolkien came up with to tell his kids before bed.
>>46504597
This jolly motherfucker.
He didn't appear in tFotR because Peter Jackson is literal cancer.
>>46505084
Tolkien didn't consider him very relevant to the narrative, and almost didn't include him at all.
>>46505084
>He didn't appear in tFotR because his scenes would've knee-capped the pacing just as the story was getting underway
ftfy
I love the Bombadil, man, but let's face facts.
>>46504072
Man-high means around 193cm tall, so they were taller as most humans of that time (except the Dunedain, and even they were not as tall in the Third Age).
http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/m/manhigh.html
>>46504597
>>46505192
The problem with this example is that it paints Tom Bombadil as not caring because he chooses not to.
He doesn't care because he can't. It's just not part of his being, and never could be.
>>46505224
Its just a funny and relevant image
Why you have to be mad?
>>46505192
Wait, didn't he only have powers in his forest?
The only thing we know for certain about Tom Bombadil is that he lies.
Half of what he says is blatantly impossible/untrue. So how can anyone trust the rest?
>>46505498
He banished the Barrow-wight that had captured the hobbits and was about to sacrifice them, or something. That was outside the forest, though not that far away from it.
>>46504597
He who is Oldest and Fatherless.
http://km-515.livejournal.com/1042.html
>>46504597
Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow,
Bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow.
None has ever caught him yet, for Tom, he is the master:
His songs are stronger songs, and his feet are faster.
