>What is Exalted?
An epic high-flying role-playing game about reborn god-heroes in a world that turned on them.
Start here: http://theonyxpath.com/category/worlds/exalted/
>That sounds cool, how can I get into it?
Read the 3e core book (link below). For mechanics of the old edition, play this tutorial: http://jyenicolson.net/exalted/. It'll get you familiar with most of the mechanics.
>Gosh that was fun. How do I find a group?
Roll20 and the Game Finder General here on /tg/. With the new edition, though, chances are more games will crop up.
Resources for Third Edition
>3E Backer Core https://mega.nz/#!E1dRBBIa!ZbQG4IasYCJRli2bhgE2MOdWeFAeV3N1rqL9kAIGbNE
>Character Sheet & Init tracker: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByD2BL6J89Nick41YUk0RUt3YlU
>Just a charsheet w/o permission request shenanigans
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pfjmZKzcUqAX9mB58IAEUIFkZr8rq4CvdRRM4kzwwgU/edit?usp=sharing
>General Homebrew dumping folder: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByD2BL6J89NiQzdCWWFaY0c5Mkk&usp=sharing
>Collection of old 3e Materials, including comics and fiction anthologies https://www.mediafire.com/folder/t2arqtqtyyt28/Exalted_3Leak
>Charm Trees:
>Solar Charms: https://imgur.com/a/q6Vbc
>Martial Arts: https://imgur.com/a/mnQDe
>Evocations: https://imgur.com/a/TYKE4
Resources for 2.5 Edition:
>All books with embedded errata notes, as well as some extras: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/253ulzik1j9s5/Exalted
>Chargen software: http://anathema.github.io/
>Anathema homebrew charm files: https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pka3nz3vqbqda/Anathema_Files
>MA form weapon guide: http://www.brilliantdisaster.net/dif/ExaltedMA.html
>http://www.mediafire.com/view/ua7tanepy2jfkdp/Exalted_2nd_Ed_-_Return_of_the_Scarlet_Empress.pdf
Resources for 1e:
>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9vp0e9id3by6m/Exalted_1e
>>46435693
Man, I feel guilty for lusting after the Holy Virgin every time I see this picture.
I don't know why, not like I'm Catholic...
>>46435716
Thats because holy girls are a fetish.
>>46431666
You kind of have to wing it in 3e. 2e had systems for it, but everyone hated them for different reasons.
Really though, a nation is just a collection of Merits/Backgrounds/whatever the fuck 3e calls it.
Help I've landed in a group of german erp'ers
I'm a minmaxing munchkin that shies from such amoral things. Save me /tg/
>>46435819
>german erp'ers
Well I guess that game is going to shit
>>46435752
I get Nuns and why I feel the lust, forbidden fruit and all that, but why the guilt?
Which 2e Terrestrial spell is best for stopping/slowing a fleet of ships from landing? Right now I'm thinking of that parting-the-sea one.
>>46435856
Because you need to see a shrink, maybe. I certainly feel no guilt lusting after imaginary women or porn stars pretending.
>>46435819
That's disgusting! Where did you find this group? So I can avoid that place completely.
>>46436475
Sounds like he's giving the implication something might be off.
Is it bad form to try to reproduce anime powers either through charms or evocations?
I'm asking for a friend.
>>46437606
Depends. Are you trying to be Naruto or some of the fucks from Avatar or something?
Then yeah, you're bad and should feel bad.
>>46437633
Not really anything from shonen jump.
>>46437741
>Nasushit
Yes. Even worse than trying to replicate Narubleach Piece.
>>46437741
Thats at least somewhat plausible given they had Charms to sort of replicate that in 2e.
>>46437812
And then removed them in 3e it seems.
>>46437845
3e changed a lot of stuff yeah. Who knows what might appear again if the game doesn't actually die with the release of the core book from the obvious and gross mismanagement.
>>46437606
It depends on the specific power. Despite what >>46437633 says, I don't think the origin of the power matters all that much. Even garbage can have some individual cool bits, after all. As long as the power in question is appropriate to Exalted thematically and in terms of powerlevel, and as long as you're just trying to reproduce that one power rather than more generally trying to bring your favorite anime into the game, then it should be fine.
>>46437777
Agreed and checked. I would prefer more if my players tried to replicate the Sharingan or a Bankai rather than some nasushit stupidity. If only because the nasuverse if far less coherent than Narubleachpiece.
>>46438032
Nasuverse and Exalted are the exact same shit.
>>46438104
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>46438007
>I don't think the origin of the power matters all that much
You say that, and then you have 5 individual, different players want to be basically be some shitter blind cunt from Avatar (complete with trying to use her fucking picture) or throw kamehameha's.
I mean, shit. Show some creativity.
>>46438104
Not even slightly. Not every evocation in exalted is a laser, for one.
I'd really much rather my players cribbed from the Iliad or Ramayana.
>>46438239
Right, but that is not an issue with the source on inspiration, it's an issue with the players and them apparently trying to borrow a whole character rather than just those individual cool bits.
>>46438330
Never seen anyone here take inspiration from the nasuverse, it's just 'help me stat this mythical character/weapon. haha, no not that one you fucking nerd, this shitty one from this awful anime.'
>>46438298
>Ramayana
Hindu mythology is the absolute perfectest inspiration for high essence Solar Exalted I can think.
>>46438444
Yes, anon, and if you're going to take something from Nasuverse that's exactly how you should go about it. As a whole it's kind of shit, but, again, there are individual cool bits, and taking those individual cool bits is whole lot better than taking any kind of broader inspiration from Nasu's shit.
>>46437741
Yes, that's bad form.
What sort of Evocations would you give to an artifact weapon of self-righteousness and judgment?
>>46438536
And Karna is the perfect example of what a Solar Essence 7-8 can be.
>>46435716
>I feel guilty for lusting after the Holy Virgin every time I see this picture.
As a Catholic, (a) first time I've seen this picture, (b) going to have to avoid this thread out of shame for much the same reason.
>>46435819
>I'm a minmaxing munchkin that shies from such amoral things
Uh, quit if you don't like it? Depending on the ERP, if it's being done in side-chat or via private messages it might be possible to go through it without encountering more than a hint of hot neckbeard-on-neckbeard action.
>>46438549
Taking whole characters isn't how you go about anything. There's very little cool in the nasuverse, and if there is it has probably already been statted in /exg/.
>>46438574
Though I'm quite more partial to the Mahâbhârata myself.
>>46438572
Advantages based on Principles. If your target violates your Principles, if it has Principles opposite yours. Including if you he has a Prinicple of 'defend the innocent' and you have a Principle of 'fuck the innocent,' depending on your definition of 'self-righteousness and judgment.'
>>46438572
Sword beams.
>>46438828
Fuck off, Nasu.
>>46438828
And what kind of evocations, exactly, would you give to an artifact red spear that is also cursed?
>>46435693
>That image opening an Exalted thread
Huh, that's an interesting coincidence. I once played an Alchemical saint-figure who wore only the outer shawl type of garment Mary's got on. The design was less ostentatious, although it did have jewels hanging off of it.
>>46438875
Cause and effect reversal. What else could there be?
>>46438572
First evocation requires you to enshrine one of your intimacies in it. If it wasn't a Defining Intimacy before, it is now. When you fight in support of that intimacy, you get to add dice to a thing. The thing isn't important, the fact that you just wrote down a defining intimacy is.
All other Evocations require that first one and key off the same Intimacy. The weapon is designed to force you to always act on it, even if you have other defining intimacies in play. If you ever act against the intimacy, you lose the benefit or gain a penalty instead.
Here's where it gets horrible. Other characters including NPCs can see the intimacy written on the artifact and understand that you get penalized for not acting on it.
All in all, the artifact makes you into a DnD-style Paladin, and the GM has been given explicit permission to have characters in the setting attempt to make you fall.
I'm imagining a shield, because I liked the way that Perfect Defenses in 2e could be pierced if the virtue they were based on was compromised. This shield will make you invincible as long as you uphold the principle carved into its face. Unfortunately, anyone who sees the shield can read the principle, and if they force you into an impossible situation you'll suddenly find yourself vulnerable.
>>46435856
Because you're trying to NTR Jesus, you fuck.
Those are Brides of Christ you're coveting.
>>46438936
Dude not funny. End of the discussion.
>>46438961
So if your principle is >>46438820
>defend the innocent
then someone who wants you dead will send a virgin after you. Maybe a Bride of Ahlat. Maybe several. Or an assassin on their first job. Go ahead, argue with the wording YOU WROTE on the shield.
Needless to say, all the rules that are already in the book about rubbish Intimacies still apply.
>>46435716
Forbidden Fruit, Anon. Mind you don't get kicked out of Eden.
>>46435752
Didn't make BondageNun best girl, though.
>>46435819
Is that Chronicles of the Sun on Roll20? What's the group like? Can't you just invoke the Red Rule?
>>46439067
>Or an assassin on their first job.
Exactly what definition of 'innocent' applies to an assassin, someone who has chose to murder people for money, even if he is no his first job? I mean, the innocence of the Brides can be questioned as well, but an assassin?
>>46439143
>Didn't make BondageNun best girl, though.
That is correct. Manosque Cyan is the superior Infernal waifu.
>>46439230
She didn't have much to compete against. Continuing the tend of Infernal waifus, the new Iconic beats out the new Solar Sigs handily.
>>46438828
From a winged sword
Said evocations cannot involve wings in any way.
>>46435752
Man nuns are the best, all my cultists in every game I've made a cult in always had sexy nuns.
>>46439201
"Hey, starving street kid, I'll give you this coin purse if you knife that guy with the ornate shield."
or
"You have completed your training, my pupil; you have mastered the ancient ways of our clan. Here is your first target, as appointed by an intricate system that definitely probably can't be easily tampered with."
That guy I like, because he's probably going to exalt as a Night caste part-way through fighting you.
(His clan was founded by a First Age Night who wanted his Exaltation to keep coming back to people from the same location because of reasons. I know this because it's a character concept I had, something to work with being the inheritor of that one Night Caste exaltation that always owes a favour to Five Days Darkness for teaching it Ebon Shadow Style.)
Or of course, there's the classic...
"Hey, basically anyone, I'll rape your family to death unless you knife that guy with the ornate shield."
You know, proper Paladin Falls territory. Really arbitrary situations designed to demonstrate that any written rule can be perverted if interpreted by people with no respect for its spirit. Complete dickery, with the safety margin that comes with this being part of an artifact that you're not obliged to use and isn't part of the limited content set of a rulebook. (As opposed to the 3e DnD Paladin class.)
Are you righteous enough to stick to your principles, even when they're inconvenient? Are your principles righteous enough to help you stick with them in every situation? If not, there's always Volcano Cutter.
>>46439533
Do you have any pictures?
>>46438961
>here, spend XP on this liability
so what player would actually take this
>>46439576
A small handful at the moment
>>46439756
>>46439776
>>46439801
>>46439755
It's not unheard of for Evocations to awaken at no cost once certain conditions have been met.
>>46439824
>>46439267
Welp, time to run an Exxxalted game that's a thinly veiled (heh) excuse for ERP.
Nuns are shit-tier. Post mikos.
>>46439755
The same players who choose to play Paladins. I've heard people genuinely excited about the idea of being put into those sorts of situations.
Also, all I'm talking about is the disadvantages. The artifact will do stuff. If it is a shield, and it lets you do something that you can't normally do defensively, like negate attacks while crashed, then it'll be worth having.
>>46439939
>mikos
???
>>46439917
Where.
>>46440011
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miko
>>46440027
Over IRC most likely, unless a good and universal chat client popped up recently that I missed. I need to do some writing work first though.
>>46440069
Yeah, can't see why nobody's posting those.
>>46440011
Japanese shrine hookers
>>46438936
>Is he gae
Ayyy LMAO
>>46439859
That's a guy, by the way.
>>46440817
Are you implying guys can't be nuns?
>>46438967
>implying Christ is/was real
>>46440923
>Implying there isn't more historical evidence for Jesus than for almost any other historical figure
>>>/his/
>>>/pol/
>>46441359
Name two
>>46441359
>Arrive at a place for a census
>No record of them on any census
>>46441496
>No record of census ever existing
>Going to specific places for a census is never a thing that happened
>>46441496
There are a hell of a lot of historians confirming a Jewish rebel leader by his name was crucified at the correct time.
So the devs went to Aggiecon and spilled some beans.
>Immaculate Styles will have no Mastery Keyword. These MA Styles were designed to take advantage of the Dragonblooded's elementally themed essence.
>Dragonblooded will have five fixed Aspect Abilities and three Favored Abilities.
>Dragonblooded will also have access to Heirloom Artifacts which recognize which Dynast House's bloodline a Dragonblooded is descended from.
>Lunars are considered the most important project in Ex3 by Holden and John. There is some pressure to get started on writing Lunars since they will need to fully fleshed out before design decisions can be made for *blankity blank* splat. (They seriously said "blankity blank splat")
>Some principle mechanics have already been written for Sidereals. Holden or John (I forget which, it was 1 am) said Astrology Colleges were one of their favorite parts of Sidereals. The Solar Charm set was designed with the other splats in mind.
http://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/main-category/exalted/858366-aggiecon-47-dragonblooded-spoilers-w-bonus-sidereal-and-lunar-tibbits
>>46439488
>>46441680
>no Mastery Keyword
This makes sense.
>>46441680
>Heirloom Artifacts
This too is interesting. It presents -GASP- a thing that Solars can't be the best at. Slightly contradicts the bit where they said Solars are supposed to be "masters of evocations", but find myself not really caring.
>>46441680
>blankity blank splat
Have they stated what the order of publishing is supposed to be? I'm wondering if the book they're talking about is the Exigents one, given that gods can be non-humanoid and being non-humanoid is traditionally a Lunar thing. I'll be interested in seeing how they differentiate a Full Moon Bull-totem Lunar and an Ahlat Exigent, for instance.
Also, is captcha being a dick to anyone else tonight? I had to go through seven of the bastards to post this.
>>46441850
There's also these two tidbits.
>The heirloom artifacts also recognize spiritual members of the house, so if you marry into House Cathak you can use the storied grimcleaver of your wife's family.
>Readers should have enough information to create minor houses, cadet houses, and fallen houses, but priority is being given to the Great Houses we already have.
>>46441680
>Lunars are considered the most important project in Ex3 by Holden and John.
Am I being taken for a ride on the SS Ruse Cruise?
>>46441850
>Have they stated what the order of publishing is supposed to be?
IIRC it's:
Exalted 3rd Edition
Exalted Quickstart
Arms of the Chosen
The Realm
Dragon-Blooded: What Fire Has Wrought
Towers of the Mighty
Exigents
Different Skies
>>46441969
Holden and Morke are Liarseither that or furries.Lunars haven't had a proper direction in the last two editions, they're in dire need of a revamp lest they end up in the shitter again.
>>46441977
>Towers of the Mighty
Which is this?
>>46441943
>fallen houses
I was reading one of the 2e books today; they say there were 23 houses founded, meaning 12 have collapsed.
Sort of makes me want to run a DB game during one of those seven "not quiet to the people who lived in them" centuries for which the Realm endured rather than in the Time of Tumult. I bet they'll put a section in to that effect if they're going to present rules for fallen houses.
>>46442016
"A setting book for Exalted, Towers covers First Age ruins in Creation and beyond. It will cover classic favorites like Denandsor, Rathess and Mahalanka, but it will also cover places only glimpsed but never explained, such as Lost Zarlath. It will also feature completely new sites, including the Holy City of Namasaro, a city of shrines that chronicled the heritage of the Exalted, and the union of the Chosen who rose up to overthrow the titans. Towers will also feature an amped up and improved system for manse building."
>>46441359
>than almost any other historical figure
Really anon? More than almost anyone ever? You sure you're not exaggerating a little bit there?
>>46441850
>I'll be interested in seeing how they differentiate a Full Moon Bull-totem Lunar and an Ahlat Exigent, for instance.
One turns into a giant man-bull, the other has conceptual powers over combat and cattle. I doubt Exigents will be able to physically transform into an avatar of their god, that has always been the Lunars' and Infernals' shtick.
>>46442011
>they're in dire need of a revamp lest they end up in the shitter again.
Too late. They already said ages ago that Lunars are going back to 1e shitflinging barbarians.
>>46442196
>I doubt Exigents will be able to physically transform into an avatar of their god, that has always been the Lunars' and Infernals' shtick.
That's why I think the blankity blank splatbook is the Exigents book. They need to determine what exactly is Lunar territory before they can write the Exigents.
Don't be surprised to see Exigents and Lunars sharing a border here. If everything that was Lunar stays Lunar, there's not going to be a lot of room for the Exigents. Ditto Liminals and Abyssals. Lots of new Exalts, lots of space that the existing ones are going to need to give up.
Can we get some cool anima banner pics? Any Exalted type.
>>46442472
>>46442226
>Too late. They already said ages ago that Lunars are going back to 1e shitflinging barbarians.
Not only that, but Charm-wise they're back to being the Furry Exalted, Chosen of the Petting Zoo.
>>46442512
>>46442533
Huh, thought I had more.
>>46442648
Also, does Captcha have Gremlin Syndrome?
>>46442529
so same as 2e minus the stupid fan-rewrite?
>>46441977
What's Different Skies about?
>>46442710
"Different Skies is the first in a series of setting books intended to give players an infusion of setting information to flesh out their games and drive their storylines. The first part of the book features our core setting, the River Province. It depicts the River Province at the height of tension caused by the Realm's temporary decline, the incursion of the Lunars, the appearance of the Mask of Winters and the return of the Solars and the Exigents. The second part of the book covers the War in the West. Like the first part of the book, the West also features a major Deathlord, but the Skullstone Archipelago goes through a fresh reinvention that will grip the hearts of the readers. This part of the book is essential for gamers who are looking for frontier adventure in a lawless land; the Western islands have been transformed into a locus for every kind of adventure imaginable, and the whole region is beset on one side by the Fae and the Realm on the other."
>>46439575
Never heard of blunt damage?
>>46442670
Probably.
Quick, /tg/! Your worst moment in Exalted, GO!
>>46444359
Playing 2e.
>>46442648
Damn, sorry but that was a p pitiful dump compared to the rest we get, you'd think we'd have a huge variety of anima banner pictures.
>>46444359
When I found out my circle's Zenith was trying to insert her tumblr fantasies in my Dawn caste home kingdom
>>46444752
Explain, this sounds like a good one.
>>46444729
I'd hardly even call it a dump it's so pitiful. The problem with anima banners is that they're specific to Exalted. Pretty much every other aspect of the game you can find images for elsewhere, but anima banners are difficult.
I'll dive back into my folders and see what I can find.
What breed of demon would be a good comedian for a soiree of jaded nobles?
>>46444905
Blood Ape.
Post Alchemical qts
>>46444879
Yeah, but other art and stories have those iconic backgrounds and auras, hell even some stands from jojo might work out.
>>46444879
>>46444962
I tend to shy away from Jojo or anything else from pop culture. Breaks immersion for me.
>>46445018
>>46445036
>>46445078
>>46445105
>>46445105
>>46444937
>>46445138
>>46444788
Probably wanted something crazy like 'equal rights'. Fucking tumblr.
>>46445259
>>46444359
My Dawn sank a brothel when a Guild Factor tried to poison him (obviously ignorant of his nature). Heaven Thunder Hammered him through a load bearing wall and it started collapsing into the river.
Basically everyone got out, but the Night was upset that all of the Factor's deeds were mush from the river water.
>>46445299
Yeah. Anyone with a brain knows equality is a bullshit myth.
>>46445394
>>46445483
>>46445483
You're cheating, that's a Raksha.
>>46441977
Surely Dragon-Blooded should go before the Realm. Surely you'd want to be able to stat DBs before you go over the place they live in and the important figures.
>>46445512
>>46445515
Didn't know that, just saw the arms.
>>46445394
These are some pretty good anima banners, but this is my favourite, anyone got more pics of this Jago guy's tiger?
>>46445583
Realm's predominantly a fluff book, so it's not occupying nearly as much weight on the queue. They'll probably be nearly-parallel releases.
Better than having the DB book be forced to be half of a Realm book, a la Alchemicals.
>>46445834
Right, I'm long out of Anima banners. Nearly 7,500 I looked through and this is the last one. The dump was still a bit short, though.
>>46446140
Mind uploading that folder somewhere?
>>46445036
Is that Snoopy Dog?
>>46447505
Here's a master list. I imagine that most of these links are dead, if so, tell me and I'll post corrections here.
>>46447583
And of course I forgot the actual link.
http://pastebin.com/0nCEVfB4
>>46447529
Snoop Dog would make an interesting Exalt. Green is for Infernals, right?
I'm bored, might dump some stuff. Any requests?
Also man, the amount of steaming hate for The Walking Dead season finale tonight is amazing.
>>46447640
Or Wood Aspects, which fits the weed thing
>>46449187
Old men with firewands, Scholarly types, if possible.
>>46450414
Don't got much of that, lets see.
>>46450531
>>46450546
>>46449519
Yes but Fiend caste colors are green and purple
>>46444359
Reading the story anthology. Those are bad, bad, badddddd. The writers didn't understand the setting at ALL.
Were they not aware that the Exalted are, you know, superhuman and driven? Everyone in those stories sucks.
>>46450944
They were always bad since 1e.
"Hmm I have to write a story about this settings. I know, I'll write about someone pissing in court."
>>46451604
To be honest though, pissing in a court is probably what an inordinate number of Solars would do.
If Mnemon showed up in your game, how stong of a combatant would you make her? Can curbstomp non-dawn starting char tier? Can curbstomp non-combat focused circle tier? Can curbatomp dawn starting chark
Also, what kind of supernatural powers do you think she'd have given herself with workings over the years?
>>46451604
>>46453783
The thing is that the stories seem to completely miss the point. One story is about duelling Twilight Caste-sorcerers, and one of them (a woman) decides to use Rune of Singular Hate on her rival. This works, and he dies.
Why did she kill him? Academic jealousy. She couldn't tolerate that his theories were accepted while hers weren't. And that, I say, is bullshit. For instance, she shouldn't be struggling to make people understand her, she should be the headmistress of the Academy. Shit ain't hard for a TWILIGHT CASTE.
Then there's one where a gambler ends up in trouble, and the God of Gamblers shows up to give him a hand. But he doesn't even make the guy an Exigent, he just goes "Hey, these are your lucky dice now. Have fun!" and the protagonist flees into the night. The catalyst for this? Two thugs attempting to kill him.
The last story is about a young girl who Exalts as a Night Caste. It turns out that she's actually the last member of an ancient circle to be reborn, and the Queen of Bees owed the Circle's Zenith-caste a favor. But the hives are ravaged by demonic wasps, and the girl follows them to get an audience with the Queen of Bees...
Basically, the Queen gives her a larval Queen, and tells her "Run for your life! Find your Circle!". The story ends with her doing just that.
Like, the authors clearly didn't know what it meant to be Exalted. For instance, the one with the Exigent would have had the protagonist laughing with a gleam in his eye, as his attackers catastrophically fumbled every attempt to kill him. While the Night Caste story really should've ended with the Queen giving her a powerbow and going "This was your weapon in a previous life. Take this, and slay the unjust once more." right before she kills everyone.
I don't know, man. They completely ignore the sensation of power, the renewed confidence, and the general, well, exhilaration of being Exalted. There isn't a single heroic narrative in the entire anthology.
>>46454079
She is the best of what a DB can offer, only being topped by her mother.
She's an incredibly skilled sorceress and she's also an incredibly skilled combatant, but she is first and foremost very clever. If she ever found herself against a circle of Solar, that would mean she'd have fucked up really hard. Mnemon doesn't fuck up.
Fighting should be her last line of defense and the last thing she would try to do. Against a full circle, she would first try to disengage and regroup with retainers (lots of, DBs preferentially, also first circle demons and maybe one or two bound second circle) before engaging again. She would use the full might of her house, get a lot artifacts, throws more demons at the problem than you can imagine, and try to be a ridiculous pain in the ass by using sorceries at their fullest.
Cornered, she would probably try to fly. She would only fight if cornered and unable to fly.
>Can curbstomp non-dawn starting char tier? Can curbstomp non-combat focused circle tier?
If she does fight though, she should be a fucking elemental monster that should curbstomp anything short of a fully spec'd Dawn.
>>46454079
She shouldn't fight. At all.
Play as her canny, competent and smart. This means that she never engages a Circle of Solars directly. She sends demons, she targets their mortal friends and lovers, and is ruthlessly pragmatic.
She's a high-Essence Elder Dragonblood, but don't kid yourself; She can't beat the Solars - except with insane luck - any more than the world's best boxer can punch out a tank.
Simply put, it shouldn't have to come down to a punching match. If it does, Mnemon loses.
>>46454079
If she's going against a group of Solars, she has at least one Second Circle demon with her, and a bunch of Third Circle demons.
>>46454129
>While the Night Caste story really should've ended with the Queen giving her a powerbow and going "This was your weapon in a previous life. Take this, and slay the unjust once more."
Being given a powerbow by the Queen of Bees to fight against demonic wasps from Malfeas ravaging her hives is actually a really cool plot. Very exalted.
>>46442472
How about a youtube video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW6vlU7iYvY
>>46444359
When my game imploded and half the players left due to ST incompetence.
>>46454499
Care to elaborate on that, anon?
>>46454266
>any more than the world's best boxer can punch out a tank.
But the power gaps between splats have been explicitly lowered, so boxer and tank are a very misleading analogy
http://forum.theonyxpath.com/forum/main-category/exalted/357759-things-one-is-not-allowed-to-do-in-exalted/page6
>140) Even if have the charms for it, I cannot cut down the mightiest tree with a herring.
Well that's just bad DM-ing.
>>46454270
>Third Circle demons.
um, are you sure you don't meant First Circle?
>>46454266
>She can't beat the Solars - except with insane luck - any more than the world's best boxer can punch out a tank.
This would be true, except the game is Street Fighter, and punching out a Tank is just a slightly bigger obstacle.
>>46454579
Are you saying she doesn't have a coterie of Ligiers?
>>46454605
>Are you saying she doesn't have a coterie of Ligiers?
On second thought, she totally does. A harem of Ligiers as boytoys.
>not a single Exalted game on roll20
help
>>46454834
Check the "Show games with Mature Content(18+)" box.
>>46454834
>roll20
Are you a huge masochist, or do you just hate yourself that much?
>>46454243
>If she does fight though, she should be a fucking elemental monster that should curbstomp anything short of a fully spec'd Dawn.
Mnemon shouldn't even be able to curbstomp, or even defeat, and experienced Dragon-Blooded warrior. Not in a fair, direct fight. Because, you know, she isn't a warrior. She's a sorceress, a politician, a schemer, a matriarch. A mastermind, not a fighter. She should still be a competent fighter, like, one with decent though not necessarily maxed out Dexterity and combat Abilities and some combat Charms, but not a monster in combat.
>>46454566
I'd have to wait for the Dragonblooded book before I can say this with any surety, of course. But there's still quite a big gap. I'm pretty sure Dragonblooded still can't learn Solar-level Sorcery.
And really, that's the point. It doesn't matter how far you push yourself, there is a hard limit to Mnemon's power. She can cheat, of course, by using the Emerald Thurible for demon-summoning - But that's her hard limit.
Her main advantage is her infrastructure and experience. Solars have raw power on their side. There's no shame in avoiding a head-butting match when it comes to a fight.
>>46455382
Technically, Cathak Cainan should probably be able to defeat her with relative ease. He's the guy who's the combat monster. She's the sorceress.
>>46455400
Tepet Arada too, and Ragara Myrrun, and probably a bunch of other old generals and Immaculate monks.
>>46455418
You know, I always liked that they went:
> "What happens when Ragara Myrrun tries to learn Sidereal Martial Arts?"
> "He explodes, obviously. This isn't the kind of game where you get things just by wanting them really, really hard."
>>46454949
What's wrong with roll20?
>>46454520
ST ran the game poorly. Plot stalled and spotlight focused on one PC in particular. Ignored hooks for the other PCs. The players got fed up and left during play.
The game then imploded and now i can't find an Exalted game.
>>46455382
>Mnemon shouldn't even be able to curbstomp
>She's a sorceress, a politician, a schemer, a matriarch
That's certainly a valid interpretation of her character. But IIRC since all the way back to 1e she's also a melee brute that also mastered several Celestial martial art and can routinely butcher demons and 'nathemas.
That's kind of Mnemon's point. Other DBs are master schemer, master sorcerers, master ____. She trained like a madwoman since her exaltation to be a master at everything. She's certainly a more skilled sorceress than swordstress, but she's absolutely not a "half competent" warrior. Anybody who would think they can kill her in melee because she is a weak sorceress will discover a whole new world of hurt when she will get her Daiklave and absolutely rekt them.
She should never be played as a warrior. She will never charge headstrong into the enemies. She certainly didn't live ~400 years by being stupid. She will always stack the maximum number of calamities to her enemies while being far, far away. But cornered, she will be a big mama cat.
While, of course, still not being Dawn level.
>>46455627
I can't imagine why you'd WANT to fight a Dawn Caste unless you had a death wish. I assume then when you fight the Solar Exalted, you attack them the same way they fought the Primordials: You hit them in the areas they're weak in.
You don't want to try and out-stealth the Night Caste, obviously. That ends badly for you. Trying to kill a Dawn Caste by punching him in the face is just giving more meat for the blender.
>>46444359
One of my best and worst: Three simultaneous Limit Breaks.
Okay, technically two and a half.
Our Day Caste had accumulated a lot of resonance, so agreed to be restrained and allowed the Neverborn to take control and exact their punishment through torture.
While this was happening, my character, an Eclipse whose mind had been worked over maybe a liiiittle bit too hard by the Western Raksha, agreed to stand watch while her lover, the party Twilight, took a break. This was a compassionate gesture on the surface but, really, it was a chance to commune and bargain with the voices of Oblivion.
Cur the Neverborn playing coy, then deciding to mock the Eclipse.
Eclipse breaks. Deliberate Cruelty. Starts shouting his rage while beating the crap out of the chained Day Caste while the Neverborn laugh.
Right on cue, Twilight returns. Sees his lover being beaten. Breaks.
Red Rage of Compassion.
Cue a glorious swish-fight, Eclipse nimbly dancing away from the Twilight, before the rest of the party intervenes.
It was glorious. I loved it. I loved every minute of it.
But I was alone in that. Day Caste's player brought up that they were upset and feeling traumatized by the Eclipse beating up their character (their chained-up character being tortured by the Neverborn), and the Twilight's player agreeing. No-one brought it up before or at the time.
Game collapsed over it. Made me sad.
>>46455627
Mnemon was statted in 1E. She had Dex 4, Melee 5, Martial Arts 4, 3 Melee Charms and 2 Charms the Five Dragon Style - a Terrestrial MA, not a Celestial one. Now, that is pretty damn impressive, in-setting if not compared to a minmaxed PC, and it is particularly impressive considering that combat isn't Mnemon's primary or even secondary thing. She's still die against the best warriors of the Realm in a swordfight, and she'd certainly be no match for the Anathema.
>>46455730
Why didn't the Day Caste just vent it all in a Resonance blight?
>>46455770
I think it was out of concern for the island and its populace. Not much real estate going around at the time. Also, might affect the gigantic and slightly unstable manse the whole island had kind of aggregated on.
If I was making Mnemon in e3 and wanted her a challenge, I'd use one often overlooked detail of the new sorcery rules: You can gain additional shaping rituals. Mnemon is a 400 years old sorceress, she has had plenty of time to acquire countless paths to sorcerous power.
So she starts the fight, and she already has like 15 smotes banked from some of those "save smotes for later" rituals, letting her insta-cast her first spell, then she goes and combines one or two other rituals to cast her control spell in a single action, etc...
I'd basically expect her to cast a spell every single round, at least, even before you bring in special, sorcerous artifact evocations or sorcerous workings.
>>46455755
Yeah, not to mention that the whole thing of the Solar Exalted is that they're the greatest in their area of expertise.
Like, Melee 5 is supposed to be really, really hard to get. If your Dawn has Melee 5 as his Supernal Ability, he is the the world's greatest swordsman. Full stop. Yes, the centuries-old Dragonblooded matriach SHOULD have a lot more opportunity to practice, but fluff-wise it doesn't work that way.
Fluff-wise, you're the greatest swordsman in Creation. That's your thing. You're not just really good at killing people, you have style. You have flair. Once upon a time, your previous incarnation probably invented the whole concept of "Hey, if I do THIS I can cut someone's soul in half while he's still alive."
>>46455857
>Fluff-wise, you're the greatest swordsman in Creation.
But that's represented by charms, not sheer ability. Melee 5 doesn't make you the greatest swordsman in creation that can cut someone's soul in half. It is a prerequisite to being the greatest swordsman, though.
>>46455890
Yeah, but you might literally be the only person in Creation with those Charms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0LLgibByQM
I wonder how you'd make Knack as an Alchemical.
>>46455857
>the world's greatest swordsman
Disagree.
First, charms aren't a thing in setting; a character with charms represents a greater level of proficiency than a character with Ability 5 represents.
Second, Ability 5 represents the peak of mortal achievement. But multiple people can reach that peak. You might get two of them on the same battlefield. Better hope they're on opposite sides, or their joint opposition aren't going to have fun.
Third, and most importantly, the idea that Ability 5 should be that unusual wonks up the narrative when you have five characters who are all that special in multiple fields at the same time who all happen to end up in the same area of Creation.
That reminds me of the fool-proof method for detecting anathema from a previous thread: watch them move. Do they move like someone with Dex 5? Anathema, kill them on the spot. Can it really be that rare in setting if every PC has it?
>>46458837
PCs are an improbable gathering of extraordinarily capable individuals. Yes, something can be incredibly rare even if all of the PCs have it. Also the difference between Dex 4 and Dex 5 isn't actually that clear cut and easy to detect on the setting. Also in the last game I ran not every PC, I think not even most of them, had Dexterity 5. Every PC in a lot of games probably does have Dex 5, but this is not any kind of a default assumption written into the game and has no implications for how common an Attribute or Ability of 5 is in the setting.
>>46458837
>
Third, and most importantly, the idea that Ability 5 should be that unusual wonks up the narrative when you have five characters who are all that special in multiple fields at the same time who all happen to end up in the same area of Creation.
Perhaps it was the will of the Unconquered Sun.
And yeah, it's rare. Your PCs are exceptional even amongst the Exalted. For one, they're a Circle of Solars, which means that they're the biggest threat to the Realm.
You have the world's greatest warrior, the world's greatest assassin, kung fu Jesus and Raistlin without the asthma. Together, you could take over a continent.
>>46458837
>Third, and most importantly, the idea that Ability 5 should be that unusual wonks up the narrative when you have five characters who are all that special in multiple fields at the same time who all happen to end up in the same area of Creation.
Have you never watched a wuxia film? Or any anime at all?
>>46458837
Bull-Fucking-Shit
This has two problems first of all:
1) If I did this with my own PC's, they'd be bored to tears.
2) You're an Exalted with magic. 5s mean that you are seemingly one of the best swordsmen in the world to a mortal. To an Exalt its not all uncommon to begin at the very apex of humanity, but even possibly further away from it due to charms.
NPC's were only statted like that to make people who know nothing about the system feel better about themselves when meeting them. I'm not saying "lol give her all 5s", but I would not be shocked to see her have Integrity 5, Resistance 5, and Occult 5 in addition to melee 5. I'd be insulted if she didn't have Occult 5.
>>46455943
If not a single other Solar who happens to have the same Supernal I do does not have that ability at 5? I'd be insulted.
This isn't World of Darkness dude.
>>46458837
>That reminds me of the fool-proof method for detecting anathema from a previous thread: watch them move. Do they move like someone with Dex 5? Anathema, kill them on the spot. Can it really be that rare in setting if every PC has it?
That's not based on anything logical though, that's just retarded. Dexterity 5 is not superhuman capability and is never stated as such.
>>46459152
Ack, meant to quote >>46455857
>>46454243
>Mnemon doesn't fuck up.
Isn't her entire history basically her being a petulant little 16 year old child in an adults body?
>>46455728
Thats assuming an enemy is going to just let you hit at a weak point.
I know when I play a Dawn, I make sure I'm always the hammer and any problem will be a nail, whether it wants to be or not.
>>46459560
Exactly. As one of the Exalted, your goal is to use your specialty to fuck your enemy's shit up. If the enemy is a subtle manipulator, you beat the shit out of all his guards and you drag the pencil-neck out of his loot room and throw him to the people.
If you're the Night Caste, it's going to end with death in the night or some kind of exceptionally hideous ambush.
>>46459185
Who knows? Remember, everyone's just been reborn and is still figuring shit out. The Bull of the North, the big Solar Warlord and the most successful of the returned Solars, does not have Melee 5.
There might be one or two other dudes, but they're just god damn poseurs.
>>46460230
Yeah, thats the thing with RPG's. Force always wins. You can be the sly manipulator all you like, but when some guy just up and decides it's easier to murder everyone/thing you know and burn a kingdom to the ground rather than deal with your shit, they're gonna do it, and either way, it's going to end up known that this guy who is chewing up and spitting out everything associated with Mr. Manipulator, well, friends are gonna fade fast.
>>46460316
Yep, that's what makes it so refreshing, especially in Exalted.
In fact, that's a common theme in Exalted. All of the Exalted are superhumans. They don't claim to be better than mortals, they ARE better than mortals. And every one of them earned it.
That's why all the "Ha ha, I'm a dick and you can't touch me" plots get horribly derailed when the unconquerable hero picks off your men one-by-one, rips apart anything in his way, and spurs the people to revolt. Plenty of horrified villains must've been saying something like:
> "But there's only FIVE of them! How could they POSSIBLY be doing this?"
>>46460316
>>46460373
Force wins in the short term, but it's kind of an important theme in Exalted that punching shit out of things generally isn't enough to achieve anything lasting - though obviously punching shit out of things can be a necessary prerequisite for being able to do things that do help you achieve something lasting. Also sly manipulators generally are pretty good at getting others, including badass warriors, to work with or for them.
>>46460655
>it's kind of an important theme in Exalted that punching shit out of things generally isn't enough to achieve anything lasting
The theme is actually that it always works, but it isn't always the best option. Punching the shit out of everything is why the Primordials are shoved up another Prim's asshole and stuck there literally forever. It's also why theres Malfeans, but guess what? Punching them into Oblivion will kill them too. Punching everything is why the Solars aren't in power anymore, but it's also heavily hinted through the editions that it was also the (2nd) worst choice the Sids could've made, because it was the easiest that wasn't "Just sit there and hope it works out".
So yeah, you can indeed murder all of your problems, it's supposed to work. It just won't always be the best option, but thats intended as well.
>>46460886
>Punching them into Oblivion will kill them too
Sure, if your ST handles it that way. Maybe another ST thinks that there should never be a simple, straightforward solution to a complex problem. That maybe players should have to think before they act.
>>46461702
>Sure, if your ST handles it that way
Well, flushing them down that toilet will work. If it doesn't, then they're changing the setting.
>>46461847
No, they aren't. There is no solution to the Neverborn as written.
>>46461847
>Well, flushing them down that toilet will work. If it doesn't, then they're changing the setting.
Do you have a source for that?
>>46460886
>The theme is actually that it always works
For a certain definition of 'works', I guess. There are things you can't achieve through punching things - like, Sidereals couldn't lay the Solars without lessening the world, the Exalted couldn't slay the Primordials without literally breaking the fundamental structure of the world somewhat while creating a bunch of future problems, and so on. Punching things always works if you want to wreck shit, but it's not a viable way to achieve every goal one could hope for. It is, again, a short-term solution, and the more easily you resort to it, the more likely your victories are to turn Pyrrhic, as going around solving everything by punching shit is a great way to both irreversibly lose things that might've actually been nice to have around and to turn people, including people capable of punching you back, against you.
>>46461847
I'm pretty sure there's nothing in the canon to support that. There isn't that much definitive canon about the Neverborn in the first place, but my impression is that they literally can't go into the Oblivion, willingly or not, as long as something's tying them to the Creation. ANd no, that 'something' isn't something you can cut, punch or tear apart.
>>46435693
Lets talk Thaumaturgy and Sorcery in 3e.
In previous editions, Thaumaturges were people who could learn a sort of broad, learnable low-power magic instead of people who "form an instinct for a single mystic ritual". Mortal Thaumaturges were about as supernaturally powerful as you could get before Exaltation came into it. Thaumaturges made minor magical items, like talismans and such.
In 3e, Thaumaturgy is a specific talent, but mortals can learn Sorcery and they've got the big Sorcerous Workings system. Is that supposed to cover everything that Thaumaturgy used to be? Should wealthy merchants send their brightest children to be educated in Sorcery? Do Sorcerers make talismans? Does the Haslanti Air Fleet use Mortal Sorcerers to captain its First Age essence-engine ships when it can't get enough Exalted?
An official answer would be nice. Failing that, what does /tg/ think?
>>46461932
From time to time it should be the correct solution to things, else the Dawn Caste and other Exalts' warrior castes are narrative red-headed stepchildren who have no agency to make things anything but worse for Creation.
>>46462019
Sure, violence shouldn't be useless, but it shouldn't the Swiss army knife solution to every problem either. Sometimes punching things absolutely is the way to go, and sometimes a Dwan's less martially oriented companions wouldn't be able to do their part if the Dawn wasn't their to stop others from punching them. Violence has its place, but it doesn't always trump every other form of competence.
It probably has already been asked, though I wanted to know: as a player of the 2nd edition, is there a spreadsheet of the substantial differences between the two editions?
>>46462126
That, I agree with.
>>46462127
It would be easier to list the things that haven't changed.
>>46462567
And what are those? I just need something to not delve into the manual completely ignorant or biased towards the mechanics of the 2nd edition.
>>46462782
1) All the Exalts of 2E still exist, in some form or another.
2) The game still uses the same basic rolling mechanic.
3) The basic shape of the setting and Creation's history is still the same.
Everything else is somewhere on the spectrum between "tweaked" (Great House stereotypes, new locations like the Dreaming Sea, character creation) and "completely rewritten" (the combat engine, the social influence engine, Charms)
Honestly you're best off going in with just completely fresh eyes, because all your 2E knowledge is gonna do is trip you up. Shit like "Defense is a difficulty, not a penalty."
>>46462127
Mechanical Differences:
-Tick system has been thrown out. Weapon stats have been boiled down to accuracy, damage, defense bonus/malus, and minimum damage.
-Everyone just gets the one turn every round. Initiative is still rolled as a JB roll.
-Withering/Decisive damage split. Withering damages peoples initiative scores and gives you stolen initiative, changing your place in the turn order. Decisive damage spends initiative to do HL damage. This makes actually hurting someone risky, as you get closer to 0 initiative, and blunts everyones ability to turn 1 instagib people.
-Perfects almost no longer exist. Perfects are now deeper in trees, more expensive, more situational, and have reset conditions you have to fulfill to use them again
-Supernal Ability lets you choose a single Caste ability that you can ignore essence requirements for.
-You now pick 5 caste abilities from a pool of 8
-Virtues no longer exist. Mote Pools change only with your essence level. Every Solar will have the same motepool at E1.
-Intimacies now have levels of intensity and replace virtues
-Limit Breaks are now free-floating. instead of always having the same limit break, you'll have a limit break that makes sense for your emotional state when you hit 10 limit
-No Terrestrial/Celestial Martial Arts split. Each MA can be accessed by any Exalt, but charms can have a Terrestrial tag, which gives penalties, and are applied to DB users, and Mastery tags, which are a buff applied to Solaroids and Sidereals.
-Mass Combat system simplified down a lot. Now actually works. You will fight a mass combat unit with the same system as when you fight a single target.
-Onslaught penalty. Every time you get attacked, successfully or not, you get -1 defense for the turn. This makes groups of heroic mortals a lot scarier
-You can't do flurries without a charm. Period. Flurries are more expensive/rare
-Sorcery doesn't spend own motes. Instead, you make a Shape Sorcery roll where successes are motes.
>>46462989
>-You can't do flurries without a charm. Period.
Actually false. You can flurry, but it's costly, can only take two actions, and you can't do the same action twice.
>>46462007
The official position is that sorcerers are rare as shit. However, one thing most people miss when reading the thaumaturgy section is that one thaumaturge can teach another thaumaturge their ritual. You GET a ritual for being a thaumaturge, but you're not LIMITED to a ritual. So you could easily have a whole monastery of exorcist-shamans who swear vows of poverty and feed themselves on manna from heaven that they conjure into existence.
That said, personally in my games there will be a pile of sorcerers, mostly because a sorcerer with a difficult-to-discover immortality clause and a Second-Circle-alike guardian makes a reasonable antagonist for young Solars, and a solid Retainer/Ally for older ones.
>>46462989
-Sorcerous Working is a new freeform system where sorcery lets you spend EXP to do large-scale permanent changes. Cursing fields, creating supernatural entities, making cities into floating islands, etc. Any sorcerer of any circle can attempt a working of any circle, but if you haven't actually achieved that circle it's much harder and much more expensive.
-Thaumaturgy is now single, weird rituals.
-Every Sorcerer gets a Sorcerous Initiation flavored after how they learned magic. This provides mechanical benefits, like being able to gather sorcerous motes from fires, or stealing souls from mortals you fuck.
-Essence starts at 1, even for Exalts. Essence 5 is now the default maximum. Going beyond E5 for a player character, until Onyx Path puts out any kind of other book about it, is now the domain of ST fiat.
-Appearance has been heavily nerfed. Now, all it does is give you a 1 die bonus for each point of appearance above your targets appearance on influence/instill
-Reworked Social Combat. Now relies on learning your foes intimacies, because it's impossible to convince someone to do something without hooking into a relevant intimacy. No matter how silver-tongued you are, you can't convince a farmer to fight a DB unless he has a strong enough intimacy that would logically make him do so. MDV is gone. Now you have Guile, which is your defense for hiding intimacies, and Resolve, which is your defense for being convinced of something. UMI overcomes this reliance on intimacies, but UMI is much much rarer.
That's all I can think of. Anyone else?
>>46463095
>So you could easily have a whole monastery of exorcist-shamans who swear vows of poverty and feed themselves on manna from heaven that they conjure into existence.
But Thaumaturges are rare as shit too, rarer than sorcerers even
>>46463084
I meant flurry as in a flurry attack, my bad. But yeah, you can flurry different actions but each takes a -3 dice penalty.
Oh, just remembered
-There's only one excellency, which is just the flat extra dice excellency. You get an excellency for free when you buy your first charm in an ability. Buying a Melee Charm earns you the Melee Excellency.
>>46462957
>>46462989
>>46463103
Thank you so much! Truly, I'd have sex in missionary position with you.
>>46463148
You also get them for free in any ability you have as caste or favored.
>>46463193
>You also get them for free in any ability you have as caste or favored and have dots in
FTFY
>>46463193
Whoops, forgot that, but you also need at least one dot in the ability.
Question. Battle groups don't gain the initiative lost by opponents they hit with their withering attacks, but do they gain the initiative bonus from Crashing an opponent?
>>46463741
I'd say the intent is "no, BG init never changes for any reason." They already get a bonus for crashing their target, after all: skipping straight to free bashing/lethal damage.
>>46463800
>no, BG init never changes for any reason
Except engage gambits.
>>46459208
Yeah, it's not superhuman. It's absolute peak human. It is, by definition, the best a mortal body can do without magic.
>Rout-Stemming Gesture
>make a rally check with (Essence) bonus successes
>3m, reflexive
>March of the Returner
>Make a rally check that automatically succeeds
>10m 1wp, simple
What makes March of the Returner worth taking?
>>46460280
>The Bull of the North, the big Solar Warlord and the most successful of the returned Solars, does not have Melee 5.
The Bull's a Warlord, not a Duelist - he'd be Supernal war. And besides, his writeup in 2E Core lists him as having 5s in Melee, Archery and War.
>>46463966
I know it's not superhuman. It's a joke. It's more about how to recognize PCs than how to recognize Solars, but since the core book deals with Solar PCs, the joke is that the Master of the Wyld Hunt has a list of Solar PC cliches cross-referenced with the Mary Sue checklist that he can just execute people for without further evidence.
>Ex-gladiator with a concern other than retirement, ale and whores? Anathema.
>Claims to be a master swordsman, but doesn't have scars or any visible signs of past injury? Anathema. No, sir, the eyescar definitely doesn't count.
>Thinks slavery is a bad thing? Double Anathema.
>Dex 5? Appearance 5? Anything 5? Probably Anathema. More than one of the above? DEFINITELY Anathema.
>Member of a Great House who exalted late and never shows their anima regardless of the circumstances? Hmm, let me thinkANATHEMA.
>Man, my job is so easy.
>>46464349
Also in Dodge and Performance. Is it just me, or does his right arm look kinda Popeye-ish in his antagonist entry's artwork?
>>46464330
It creates a rally check after you've already been routed.
>>46464907
Except rally checks can only be performed when the unit has not yet dissolved.
And even if the Charm ignored that rule (the fluff implies it's meant to but there's nothing in the text that actually says it does), it also says nothing about the Size of the unit when it returns.
>>46465062
Th BG doesn't dissolve until the start of the next round. Enemies have the time to slaughter it and you can use that charm to prevent the dissolve.
>>46463120
Nah, not really. Finding thaumaturges that can do the exact same trick naturally is rare, but there are shittons of different kinds of thaumaturges in Creation simply because there is quite shit tons of people. In some village you might find a old herbalist who can take the bark from his completely normal backyard tree, boil it and cure cancer by drinking the stuff while looking his patient in the eyes. In a western island you might find a kid who can skip-throw volcanic rocks she picks up while blindfolded that skip on the wild seas just right that a local whale always beaches itself and dies to seeing something so awesome, providing food for the island for weeks, no matter the shape of the rock. In the east you can find Sijanese monks going around gathering and recruiting youngsters with the spark of thaumaturgy to come live a respectable life of keeping the balance between the dead and the living and to learn their ritualistic ways.
Meanwhile some geezer with a burning will and burning passion for power due to being afraid of dying, has made a deal with a powerful fire spirit he has been courting for decades in order to gain an inkling of magical power.
>>46462007
A lot of the 2e thaumaturgies are now under the usage of the Occult ability or in some cases Lore/Medicine/Craft. Anyone can do mortal astrology as long as they know how and have the tools. Same with taming animals (Survival). Minor magical items and wonders are under Occult, which is great since now it has actual uses beyond "I can into sorcery and recognise that the demonic gorilla that is bleeding all over the place is a bloodape".
Likely one or two of the Haslanti Air Fleet main engineers will be sorcerers with the rest being occultists and some thaumaturges.
In my opinion the amount of magical wonderment has increased in the setting, instead of decreasing. At first I thought it was the other way, but now I have come around to the new system's coolness.
What are the Icewalker tribes?
>>46466156
Barbarian-Nomad-Eskimos from the North. Yurgen Kaneko, Bull of the North, is one of them. Here's a bit more.
https://exaltedbloodandfire.obsidianportal.com/wikis/the-north
>>46466156
Literally read the book, fuckface, those ones aren't even just namedropped, they actually explain what they are.
>>46466156
Generic tribals that roam the North.
>>46464456
Got any more?
>>46465117
You can also use Rout-Stemming Gesture to prevent the dissolve, for 7m 1wp less, as a reflexive rather than simple action.
>Ex 3 core book – From RichT: Got PoD proofs, they need some color correction adjustments. Expect the PoDs not to be available for two more weeks as we adjust and get new PoD proofs sent to us.
Be prepared to see this every couple of weeks for the next several years.
>>46467715
From his prison within his Emperors world-body, the Ebon Dragon sneers at us.
Are the Immortal Blade Triumphant and Corona of Radiance trees in Melee any good? I see everyone wax lyrical about the defence and multiattack suites, but not much about the above.
>>46462989
>>46463103
Thanks for this, it'll be great helping my group transition.
Is there anything we should add?
>>46470284
Honestly, you can't sum up an entire edition change in a few sentences. Just tell them to read the book, man. You gotta put in the time if you want to play an RPG, just how they work.
>>46435693
Has anyone put together an exalted picture resource? Some collection of all the character art and whatnot you guys like to toss about here?
>>46470617
No idea, I just dump tons of art here every now and then.
>>46440817
Would still fuck.
>>46470512
>Honestly, you can't sum up an entire edition change in a few sentences
Sure you can, watch.
DnD 4th Edition:
Pros:
- Makes any other game look good by comparison
Cons:
- Literally everything
Bam.
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