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What are you brewing for this new meta.
Are you prepared for the most retarded deck of this season ?
Way worse than rally for the past few months.
GR Ramp. Since aggro is piss poor, the deck have not a single bad matchup
Hope you like getting rekt by chained World Breaker into Dragonlord Atarka into Ulamog with a little bit of Chandra.
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>aggro is piss poor
inb4 special snowflakes with their shit tier vampire madness deck.
Go back to your /casual/ containment thread please.
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>want to build a deck that combos Ulamog with Nahiri's the Harbringers -8
>don't want to spend a bunch of money on a Ulamog card
>feels uncertain about buying boosters

advice?
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>>46432760
ulamog is less than 20$ and will surely increase in price with Tron playing it more and more
buy him now
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>>46432126
>best deck in the format
>not BWx

step it up senpai
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Ok so i went to my first pre-release and from the cards i got there built a WR deck with the card and also some commons i got from some veterans that just throws away commons directly

Pic is the deck

Any advice on what i could do to improve it?

Note: This is my very first real deck im building so i don't have that much experience
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/no-pain-plenty-of-gain/
my designed deck, feels good man
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>>46433470
Constructed deck need to have 60 cards as opposed to limited deck that only need 40.
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>>46433567
>Standard General
>Standard
>STANDARD

Do you have reading disorders ?
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I'm actively building WG humies with some angels for good measure. Still need to find an Avacyn, though I'm not even sure if I should put her in or instead run 1 Descend upon the Sinful, which I already have, as a more reliable board wipe.

What I want to build for shits'n'giggles but will probably be hard as fuck to make work, if it works at all, is blue mill with Clues using the mill Delirium guy, the mill Mythic and the Clue mill card.

Triskedakephobia would also be a fun deck to fuck around with, but that one's even less likely to work.
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Updated my deck i posted before(>>46433470) so that it's a 60 cards deck.

Advice on making it better?
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I'm going with this. GW with lots of tokens and focusing on Delirium. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/palegreen/
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>>46435648
Enjoy getting your board wipped for 1W.
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>>46435648
Wtf, your deck is shit, there is room for a GW token deck but holy shit you built the most shittiest version there ever was.
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>>46434360
This deck's mana curve is really poor for what its trying to be, which is obviously an aggressive deck. You want a creature on the field on turn one if you're going this route, and lots of cheap creatures and boosts that compound each other.

You also have very little removal.

Some of your choices are questionable. Things like cathar's companion rely on you to basically cast an instant to make it useful though you don't have many instants in your build, and cards like Unruly Mob rely on your creatures dying to become strong which isn't a good thing to plan for with this deck that doesn't have much synergy around creatures dying. Things like Flameblade Angel have a similar effect about them, also she has such a small body for 6 CMC.

I mean, just to be straight with you this deck is garbage if you're planning on taking it to FNM. Which is just fine, as you only just started playing, it's expected. There's a lot more I could say about it.

I recommend if you want to go this route, focus on 1, 2 and 3 CMC creatures and instants that compound each other. Human tribal, wolf tribal and vampire tribal all have stuff going on at this CMC level and do the same thing you're trying to do with this deck a lot faster.
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Are there any decent budget ways to get into standard? I was thinking of either mono red burn or aggro, or maybe white green aggro but I am still not sure of how either will look post rotation.
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So if Ramp and Wx Abbey are the level 0 decks going into week one, doesn't that make Memedrazi the next level?
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>>46435925
I'm not using the Eldrazi.
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>>46436083
What would you recommend to keep as a maximum mana for normal creatures?

I do have a couple common of 3 mana and less creature i could switch in.

Also would putting a few red madness spells work if i put in Stern Constable?
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I'm thinking of buying 8 Cryptolith Rites right now. Will it drop in price, will it stay as it is or is it going to spike? The card is pretty damn decent, after all.
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>>46436580
Drop, it's a bulk rare that may see some fringe play, that's about it.
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>>46436580
4 dollars feels right. Don't expect it to go up.
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The moment someone gets Silverfur Partisan to work in a deck it'll shoot up, along with the Alpha and possibly the Hermit.
Deathcap Cultivator seems like it's worth more than two dollars in a new, fast meta where delerium was surprisingly easy to activate.

The Journal has to go up simply because of the combo "sac three clue tokens, take any creature from your deck and put it in play at end of turn" seems like more than a 40 cent card.

Scourge wolf was surprisingly effective.
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Is this card as good as I think it is?
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>>46432126
What's the best site to copy decks from?

I want to be skillful like the rest of you cool kids
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>>46437619
well if you get it out on turn 2 then play ability on turn 3 you can get out a 5 cost creature on turn 4.
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>tfw your ramp burn is going to rotate
http://deckstats.net/decks/40652/402200-untitled-deck
There's nothing to salvage in it, is there?
I'd love to keep playing omnath. He's fun.
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>>46437619
it's good if it works

but werewolves aren't as great as they seem
you basically have to pass the turn to get them to flip, which leaves you open to a huge tempo swing
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>>46437619
>t2 this
>t3 ability, flip
>t4 some pile of creatures

(2) 3-cost
(1) 3-cost and (2) 2-cost
(4) 2-cost creatures
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Is there a program that can visualize the standard cardpool and filter by types, mana coast, etc? Would make brewing alot easier to look through cards, etc.
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>>46438332
Xmage deck builder
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>>46438332
http://gatherer.wizards.com
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>>46438871
>unable to filter by card number
FUCK
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>>46438924
the cards have numbers?
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>>46439316
By the artist says number/total cards
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>>46438332
magiccards.info
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I play casual constructed but I'm wondering if I could get some advice on this deck.
It feels a little too slow and I'm wondering how to protect myself without ruining the clue theme.
http://deckstats.net/deck-9633686-b548a2bf4ad16704d79109ca99163e12.html
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question about madness: if a creature is summoned via madness you exile it after its sent to the graveyard, right? or is it exiled after one turn or something?
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>>46441813
IIRC you discard it into exile (instead of grave) and then you may cast it for the madness cost. If you don't, then it goes to grave.
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Who /whiteweenie/ here?
I'm going to be testing this list:

Creatures: 28
4 Kytheon, Hero of Akros
4 Dragon Hunter
4 Expedition Envoy
4 Consul's Lieutenant
4 Knight of the White Orchid
4 Thalia's Lieutenant
4 Hidden Dragonslayer

Other Spells: 12
4 Gryff's Boon
4 Declaration in Stone
4 Always Watching

Lands: 20
20 Plains

Sideboard: 15
4 Cleric of the Forward Order
2 Hallowed Moonlight
2 Surge of Righteousness
2 Eerie Interlude
2 Fate Forgotten
2 Suppression Bonds
1 Strider Harness

The numbers for some cards probably need tweaking. I doubt 4X10 and 20 lands is actually optimal.
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Abzan superfriends looks pretty well positioned with languish being as brick-shitting amazing as it is against weenie decks. here's my prospective list:

4 Sylvan Advocate
2 Den Protector
2 Eldrazi Displacer
1 Dragonlord Dromoka
1 World Breaker
4 Oath of Nissa
3 Oath of Gideon
3 Dromoka's Command
1 Anguished Unmaking
2 Ruinous Path
3 Call the Gatewatch
2 Languish
3 Nissa, Voice of Zendikar
2 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
2 Ob Nixilis Reignited
1 Sorin, Grim Nemesis
4 Canopy Vista
3 Shambling Vent
2 Hissing Quagmire
2 Llanowar Wastes
2 Caves of Koilos
4 Forest
4 Swamp
2 Plains
1 Wastes

//Sideboard
SB: 3 Transgress the Mind
SB: 2 Duress
SB: 2 Infinite Obliteration
SB: 2 Clip Wings
SB: 2 Painful Truths
SB: 2 Silkwrap
SB: 1 Planar Outburst
SB: 1 Dromoka's Command
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When is the next big event of the new Standard?
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>>46442236
Double green and double black on turn 3
Double white on turn 4

3 colors with double colored requirement was hard even with fetches but without fetches, you're delusional if you expect to cast your spells.
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Sultai Delirium midrange with 3 Gitrog Monsters.

Deck is scary as fuck, can't wait to play it.
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>>46442483
Post the list.
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>>46441970
Thinking of going w/g weenies since there are a lot of good green humans that go with white as well. Not sure about Sigarda, but she could be viable as well.
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>>46442540
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>>46442571
Dumping lands into the GY with Kiora, Mindwrack and Gather the Pack with Gitrog on the field.
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Hoping to make a Spirits deck because Rattlechains is far too gorgeous

4x Topplegeist
4x Anafenza, Kin Tree Spirit
4x Rattlechains
4x Bygone Bishop
4x Reflector Mage
2x Archangel Avacyn

2x Stasis Snare

2x Eerie Interlude
2x Essence Flux
4x Clash of Wills
4x Ojutai's Command

24 Land

Lots of flash, I think Essence Flux is underrated, might take out reflector mage for some removal
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>>46442437
The only cards with double mana cost are languish and ruinous path (both black) and planeswakers (null color requirements with 4 oath of nissa about) and 13 of my 24 lands tap for black. It works fine.
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>>46442568
It looks like lots of people want to,myself included, but I'm looking at all the viable w/g weenies and it isn't going to be cheap.
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>>46432126

>What are you brewing for this new meta.

Mill, because I hate myself.
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>>46443387
You can also look into W/R weenies, abbot of keral keep isn't going anywhere, neither is Titan's Strength. All the red werewolves start as humans too.
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>>46443474
This is ironically what I fear the most with my Delirium deck above. It has so much self mill that against an actual mill deck I'm going to be helping kill myself.

Made me put Inverter in just in case
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>>46443474
I ran grixis mill and did quite well actually. devoid wrecked my shit though.
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>>46443500
I'm very tempted to try W/R equipment weenie, but that sounds really gimmicky and stupid.

I'm also not very good at actually crafting anything from scratch in standard.
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>>46443525
Why would devoid stop a mill-deck?
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>>46432126
werewolf's no matter what : <
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>>46443610

I think Devoid kills Sphinx's Tutelage.
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>>46443554
It's not as gimmicky as you think, there's good human specific equipments, and secure the wastes is still around. It's also possible to T2 flip Kytheon with 2 village messengers on turn 2.
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>>46443387
Which ones do you think are gonna be expensive from Innistrad?Unless you mean shit like Collected company
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>>46443474
>>46443474

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/soi-mill/

Deck list for suggestions / comments.

>>46443520

I did not think about that card. I could just counter it, but that's a damn good card against mill.
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>>46443749
For a given value of 'pricey', but I think that Always Watching is gonna see lots of play.
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>>46443826
Sure, but that's white. I think it's probably one of Whites better cards this expansion. No dout about it. you can stack the +'s and while you're wasting the vigilances, it does make it harder to get rid of. But I don't think it will be expensive.

Odric and Thalias Lt. also will probably see a fair amount of play.
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>>46443867
Yeah, those are what I'm really afraid of having to purchase.
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>>46443927
Odric isn't so bad, Lt. is getting a little high though, so I dunno. Lt and Militia captain/cult leader can make a decent combo if you can keep them alive though.
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Why the spike?
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>>46444185
>Potential mass removal for 2cmc

dunno
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>>46440897
Anyone?
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>>46444235

Yeah, but did no one notice this prior to the spike or something?

Not like the text changed.
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>>46444413
probably just people realizing it exists, and it's very good at what it does.
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>>46444444
checktet the sextet bruv
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>>46444488
Damn I did get some nice sextets
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>>46435925
Do you have any tips on improving the deck?
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How to git gud?
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I've decided to get back into magic after a few years away, seeing as some friends are now getting into it as well. Would this be a decent basis for a GW humans deck using the new set? http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/02-04-16-soi-humans/

I used to play RU, but it doesn't look very interesting this time around, besides an RU horrors deck which a friend is already building.
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>>46444841
subscribe to starcity premium so you know which new decks to buy for the next starcity iq, go.. friend.
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Why did Angel of Tithes jump to $22?
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>>46445094
because it's good and jews
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>>46443315
Keep dreaming of your perfects scenarii.
Just remember when you'll rage that you didn't drew that exact land you inflicted this on yourself and it is not some sort of rng that screwed you.
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>>46436523
When making a deck it's a common newb trap to see many synergies and try to shove a little of everything into a deck. A deck needs a central unifying theme, a gameplan to focus on, even if that gameplan is "play dudes and tuen them sideways". Having an incidental combo in your deck is generally a bad idea, especially when the individual cards that make up the combo are bad, such as with Stern Constable.

What you really want to do is pare down your ideas and focus on one thing you want the deck to do.
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>>46443807
Hedron crab seems good with your 4x evolving wilds.
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>>46445408
I've been testing the mana base for the past week. Yes I don't always get double black turn 3, but more often than not I do have it turn 4, and that's the critical turn to need 2BB.

If you're going to call it shit, make a suggestion on what to replace to make it less shit.
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/03-04-16-gb-delirium/
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>>46442886
You only get a single draw off each instance of any amount of lands going to the graveyard, so at best those things cantrip.

It's good, but not some crazy draw machine, the only "free" card you're getting in your example is the one off of gitrog's trigger.
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>>46444185
People realized the card was good after playing with it.
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>>46444413
You should have seen /tg/ before the prerelease the two camps were "it's bad, but boardable against tokens" and "it's just bad" the clue tokens scared people too much. Then they played with it and remembered that 2 mana exile any creature is good.
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So far I've brewed:
BU Eldrazi ingest/process
BR Eldrazi aggro
BG Eldrazi scion life and death

I always default to my BU Eldrazi deck. I fucking love ingest, both as a mechanic and flavor wise. Sadly I won't be able to do anything with these decks after they rotate out, so I'll keep them for kitchen table.

I'm about to brew a BU zombies deck after the SOI fully releases. Once SOI rotates out, I'll be able to convert a lot of these zombies into a zombie modern deck.

I'll probably make a BR vampires madness deck too, but I want to wait and see. I've never really enjoyed vampires all that much, but I like their mechanics and madness is fun, so I hope this will give me something cool.
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>>46449186
>18 lands
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either going to be g/w humans or a u/w brew something like:

2 Hidden Dragonslayer
4 Archangel of Tithes
4 Declaration in Stone
2 Invocation of Saint Traft
4 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
4 Knight of the White Orchid
4 Kytheon, Hero of Akros
3 Mirror Mockery
4 Reflector Mage
4x Topplegeist


>>46445094
>Why did Angel of Tithes jump to $22?
wow, I traded for 2 of these the other day when they were like $5
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>>46449186
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/03-04-16-gb-delirium/
Literally trash
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>>46449186
So like... what's the plan? Why are there catacomb sifters and cut throats when the majority of your cards don't want to die? The only thing I can see you being alright with dying are the tokens your sifter make on etb. You do understand that being put into the graveyard from milling is not dying right?
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How's mono red seem this standard?
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>>46449771
dead
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>>46449812
Dead decent you mean
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Whats a good App to check on card prices ?

Trading is a bit annoying when you have to check card prices on the browser instead of a handy app to quickly check prices on different stores.
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>>46450307
MTGFamiliar
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>>46450307
>People at your LGS only use SCG prices and won't accept anything before checking there
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>>46450503
>people use SCG prices when valuing their own cards and TCGP Low when valuing cards they're trading for.

Scum of the earth tier. They need to be dragged into the streets and shot.
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So i posted my first ever standard deck and looked for advice.

Been reworking it a little trying to make it as fast as possible using the cards i have available.

Looking for advice on what cards i need to look for to make the deck better and what cards i should switch out.
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>>46450503

>Hey dude i want your Nahiri wanna trade?
>Yeah sure. lemme check the price, oh its $20 !
>$20? oh wow thats a lot, lemme check on tcgplayer, hey man its $13 over here, $20 is not whats that card worth
>Sorry dude i cant give it that cheap, it's a planeswalker ! i cant get ripped off like that, $20 or nothing.
>Later i see him trading with someone else but this time he is checking the cards he wants for on tcgplayer


Fucking kikes man, what the fuck.
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>>46450674
i bet he's the same kind of guy selling promo PW for like 50$.
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>>46450649

look at a list like:

>>46441970


try and build towards white weenies like that.
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>>46449294
>Wanna play white
>x4 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
>Wanna play blue
>x4 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy

Why even bother with standard.
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>>46450609
I almost got kicked out of a store in Plano tx when I told a guy I didn't give a shit what scg prices were, scg is a bunch of fucking kikes. He went and cried to the manager about anti semitic slurs because I called him out on sharking
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>>46450794
A lot of BWx lists I've been seeing floating around aren't using Gideon anymore, they are however packing a few Sorins who is going to be a big player in standard and is already getting bought up by faggots who expect him to become an auto include in edh
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>>46450832
You do know that we call SCG kikes because this is the internet and offensive hyperbole like that is funny right?

Those of us who are relatively normal people still hate SCG, we just articulate it better in person by calling them price fixers and gougers, not kikes you fucking autist. You deserved to get kicked out of that store.
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>>46450934
I said almost kicked out. I left voluntarily. And I will not adjust my adjective choices to compensate for the feelings of PC babies. I'll call scg kikes anywhere I go and unapologetically stand by my words.
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>>46451065
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>>46450934
Pretty much this. Learn to act like an assimilated pcbruh in public.
What else is a Jew going to do but play the oy vey card when he gets fingered for being a scheister? Cant let people point out his Judaism and then lose out on profits
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Anyone knows a good way to build a deck around Sorin or Nahiri?
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>>46451134
Boros Aggro
Black and White control
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>>46450832
That's my LGS. Please stay the fuck out.
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>>46433470
Use that +1/+1 and double strike card
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>>46451154
Go to hell binder shark
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>>46451065
And I said you DESERVED to get kicked out you illiterate faggot. Jesus christ, people like you are the reason I'm fucking embarrassed to tell people i live in Texas.
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>>46451234
That shining texan education is why you should be ashamed to live in north mexico. An anencephalic infant could tell your usage of deserved has multiple interpretations without any audible emphasis. Kill yourself
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>>46451299
And any child with 1st grade reading comprehension could have inferred my intended usage by context. But since you're not only an illiterate Texan man-child but an assblasted autist faggot you assumed I was the one who had misread. You sure are a fucking grab bag of stupid.
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>>46451232
I don't even do trades. I just don't want to see autists like you around being loud dumbasses.
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>>46433470
>>46433470
nice draft deck
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>>46450649
honestly looks pretty bad, put it out of its misery familia
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>>46451361
Context? What context you self fellating jizz wizard? no one who isnt an illiterate fucking cuck would have inferred deserved as "should have" rather than the proper definition of "rightfully earned or merited"
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>>46451465
>>46451361
You are both huge fucking faggots desu baka senpai
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>>46450649
Alright, so, first decide on if you want to be fast or slow, if you want to be fast, which I am assuming you do based on the post, start by cutting everything over cmc3. Then you want to decide what your perfect series of plays is and put 4 of every card in that series into your deck, also make sure your perfect series of plays is capable of winning early, early being turn 3-6. You want the core of your deck to be 4 ofs to maximize consistency. From there you can start putting 2 and 3 ofs in your deck of more situational cards that are still conducive to your game plan. Once you've got that much you'll be in a much better position to start asking us for real, specific advice about your deck.
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>>46451465
The context of you saying you almost got kicked out, you mouth breather. Don't you have some niggers to lynch, Cletus?
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Can you two faggots blow each other already.
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>>46451576
Why would anyone with a modicum of intelligence assume anything other than your incomprehension you redneck texan retard? And since you clearly aren't capable of inffering it yourself, I'm not texan, I was only visiting. I would kill myself if I were from that dreadful wasteland.
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>>46450934
>calling people kikes is autistic
>when someone is literally being Jewish

I don't know about you, but in my country no one cares if you use words like kike or nigger. We know exactly what we mean when we say them and don't need to hold our tongue, except for the little ones of course. It's not racist if it's based on reality.
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>>46451710
Maybe you should kill yourself anyway. You're clearly a miserable human being.
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>>46451746
You and the other guy and now including myself are the niggers for killing this thread with your fucking autism.
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>>46451828
>implying that wasn't the point the whole time
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>>46436580
Its made to shake up commander, dont get 8 m8
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Okay since we're on the topic of flaming faggots does anyone have a mono red list?
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>>46451916
That depends. Are you a lumberjack and/or from texas?
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How does this look?

Creature (28)
3x Blight Herder
2x Conduit of Ruin
2x Drowner of Hope
3x Eldrazi Skyspawner
4x Fathom Feeder
4x Mist Intruder
3x Ruination Guide
2x Sire of Stagnation
2x Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
3x Ulamog's Nullifier

Land (23)
2x Corrupted Crossroads
8x Island
2x Mirrorpool
3x Spawning Bed
4x Sunken Hollow
4x Swamp

Instant (6)
3x Horribly Awry
3x Spell Shrivel

Sorcery (3)
3x Transgress the Mind

I'm honestly pretty happy with this deck. I was considering slipping some wasteland stranglers in there, but idk.
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>>46451916
Chandra a qt
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>>46452066
Looks solid to me.
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If turn 1 Town Gossipmonger:

Start hand: 2-3 mana, 1-cost creature, 1-2 Low cost enchantment, 1-2 Buff spells, 1-2 <3-cost creature.

Turn 1: Town Gossipmonger.

Turn 2: Play creature and tap it using Town Gossipmonger to transform Town Gossipmonger.

Turn 3: Enchant Town Gossipmonger and let it attack.

Turn 4: If Town Gossipmonger dies continue to buff other creature otherwise continue buffing and attacking with Town Gossipmonger and the other creature/s.

Turn 5 and up: By now enemy should have about 10 hp if no healing or other damage come in to play and with the weakest buss/enchants attached to Town Gossipmonger and hit opponent all turns.


If no turn 1 Town Gossipmonger:

Start hand: 2-3 mana, 1-cost creature, 1 <3-cost creature, 1-2 Low cost enchantment, 1-2 Buff spells

Turn 1: 1-cost creature.

Turn 2: Enchant Creature and attack.

Turn 3: Continue buffing creature and attacking.

Turn 4: Continue buffing creature and attacking.

Turn 5: By now enemy should have about 9 hp if no healing or other damage come in to play and with the weakest buss/enchants attached to the creature and hit opponent all turns.


Start hand: 2-3 mana, 1-2 <3-cost creature, 1-2 Low cost enchantment, 1-2 Buff spells

Turn 1: Play land.

Turn 2: Play Creature.

Turn 3: Buff creature and attack.

Turn 4: Continue buffing creature and attacking.

Turn 5: By now enemy should have about 12 hp if no healing or other damage come in to play and with the weakest buss/enchants attached to the creature and hit opponent all turns..


If first creature dies around turn 3-4 it will probably go beyond turn 7 in which i have either lost already or have to rely on finnishing the game with one big creature or flooding the board with creatures and attack with all of them.
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>>46452642
Meanwhile your opponent does nothing...
You don't want to cast 1 mana 1/1. They're not even limited playable.
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>>46452642
>>46452663
Same for enchentment. If your creature gets removed, you wasted 2 cards for your opponent 1 card.
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>>46452642
you cant throw up a pile of wr soi shit and pretend it would work
also
>ideal start is gossipmonger 1st turn
>1x

auras are shit
the double strike istant is overpriced (assault strobe in SoM was R, temur battlerage is 1R and gives fuckin trample)

deck wants to be "aggro" but yet plays avacyn and not a single creature with >3 body

idk dude, you just cant make up a good deck from the shit you got at prerelease + few boosters, think your list is weak even against your 10 y o cousin who plays kobolds
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>>46432126

I bet it's gonna be ramp or den protector-raptor shenanigans as tier 1 deck.
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>>46451134
mardu tempo madness for nahiri
sorin can work everywhere but it costs too much to drop imo
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>>46452221
actually she's a hottie :^)
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>>46452221
Going to have to ask for a source there anon, for research purposes.
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>>46444864
Any thoughts on this deck for a newbie?
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MTG newfag here, is WB viable this set? Or would it be better to have a splash of Blue? Are there any good recommended decks like this?
I really like the general playstyle of most white cards so i want to focus on it and black for the slow burn.
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>>46452642
>Town Gossipmonger

stopped reading there
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Relatively new player, I did ok at the pre-release, now I am hoping to make a green and white deck, at the moment I have come up with this - http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/gw-soi-humans-1/

I'd love some suggestions or ideas on where to go from here, one problem I have is learning how to mix creatures and spells from different sets into the one deck and getting them to all work together, so thoughts on that would be nice.
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Is deck good comrades?
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>>46453307
Cropping is hard
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>>46453322
A deck with access to green and that many lands is begging for Sylvan Advocate.
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>>46453299
One thing to keep in mind coming from a prerelease into constructed is that decks in constructed don't need to do everything. "BREAD" doesn't apply to constructed formats. That in mind, you could probably do away with the removal in favor of things that help you aggression.
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>>46452642
You really need to cut the big guys in favor of more aggression. You don't need an "if" plan, you should be able to win before late game. You're also in red, the color with the most burn available but have included none of it, look into older sets that will still be in standard post rotation for better cards. Try to find more aggressive creatures and spells that will help you do damage and push damage through.
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>>46450832
It's because you are a fucking idiot who thinks he can act in real life like he can on the Internet in general and 4chan in particular. Here's another thing you should do: take a daily shower.
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Guys, I need help with improvements.

4 Thornbow Archer
4 Insolent Neonate
4 Ravenous Bloodseeker
4 Heir of Falkenrath
4 Olivia's Bloodsworn
3 Incorrigible Youths

4 Fiery Temper

4 Alms of the Vein
2 Gisa's Bidding
4 Exquisite Firecraft

4 Foreboding Ruins
2 Smoldering Marsh
8 Mountain
7 Swamp

I've been playtesting this online since the full spoilers and this is what I've come down to as a core deck. Sideboard is waaay up in the air.

Madness based aggro burn. Push for wins as fast as possible
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>>46448564

Shame he wasn't reprinted.

No draw crab in standard :<
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>>46453529
Ok, good thoughts - so that would involve taking away things like Immolating Glare, Gideon's Reproach etc - what would be best to replace it with? More creatures or sorcery/instants that benefit those creatures attacking? Or something else entirely?
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>>46450895
Monoblack sorin and the lord of innistrad are still the best two versions of that walker. His ult could summon a thousand vampire knights but they still suck and die to a cyclonic rift.
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>>46451134
curve toppers for their respective colors. Anything in red that costs 4 mana better ruin them and naihiri has a small chance of that, not a good one.
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>>46451512
Thats just texans, lol.
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>>46453677
I recommend grotesque mutation.
I recommend you put 5 in your deck and hope noone notices.
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I can't wait for the wallet-busting Jace flip-walker decks to draw-discard their way though madness burn with Sin Prodders and Stormchaser Mage. Something's not right when cards reach $100 in *standard*. Jeeze.
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Still looking for help.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/soi-mill/

Yes, I know it's mill, but I wanted to see if it became viable with the new set. Also, I think I may be running too many lands @ 25.

I won't be putting in little Jace because it's too expensive for what it does either.
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Since Neonate was my MVP at the prerelease, I plan on making a BR Vampire deck. Maybe a splash of white for Sorin and Olivia.

I want to make it only out of Innistrad cards. Any ideas? I have three sorins available and two Olivia's possibly.
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>>46454032
That seems too complicated. I think you'd have better luck playing Triskaidekaphobia. At least you could have a simple strategy to stall the game until using one of the Fireball variants to put them on exactly 13 life.
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>>46454090

Life gain decks / burn could just shut those down.

I also don't have the cards for a B/R deck, while I do have W/U cards in abundance.
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>>46452066
Your creature curve looks like you're tapping out up until turn 7, where you wait and make land drops til Ulamog. Are counterspells the best option? I'm not real familiar with current standard
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Making a bw allies deck that hinges on kalastria healer and the two gold uncommons (and the ally 2drops to gain enough incremental life to pull it off) from bfz block to set up enough lifesucking to win. Possibly with triskadekaphobia
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>>46450674
I love Europe and the fact that mcm prices are the norm
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>>46454424
Pretty much this.
Although some stores tend to still shark on it.
>So you want to sell this? I'll give you 90% low in store credit.
>You want to buy this? 110% price trend. That's the best deal I've got.
Atleast commons are 5c a piece- oh.
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