RESOURCES
http://www.mtgcommander.net
>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.tappedout.net
>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh
>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.edhrec.com/
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.
http://manabasecrafter.com/
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
CARD SEARCHING
http://gatherer.com
>Official search site. Current for all sets but has a terrible UI.
http://www.magiccards.info
>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
Overrated cards edition
What is the most overrated card in commander?
>tfw you didn't copy the whole post
I lost
>mfw I cast Radiate on a Bribery
>>46376626
Why not just use blatant thievery?
>>46376607
the last 2 links in the resources are dead why would I include them
>>46376656
Oh my b I misremembered what blatant thievery does
post em
>>46376553
An overrated card in commander is temple of the false god
I feel like if your ramp game is on point, the upside of temple of the false god is outweighed by its awful downside
>>46376626
>Yehsh! Rosebud frozen peas, full of Bribery and... green peaness
Building a Volrath deck.
What should go in it that isn't blatantly obvious?
>>46376731
yeah, it's one of those cards that doesn't belong in every deck yet is jammed in anyway
I'm contemplating joining the rest on my meta in ordering cards online instead of cobbling together whatever jank I have.
On that note, what are the good haymaker spells in this format? Stuff like rise of the dark realms, rite of replication, insurrection, tooth and nail, time stretch, and I guess to a lesser extent blatant thievery / genesis wave / triumph of the hordes
>>46376842
insurrection is a personal favorite of mine
>>46376731
It is a such a bait card for bad EDH deck builders, in most circumstances alsmost any other land would be better.
I used to run it and the number of times I've had to mull a hand cause I had that and 3 lands or less in it.
You think about commander and you think of a ton of lands but the point in the game when it's affective there are better options
>>46376830
Draco for a one hit kill.
Phyrexian Reclamation to do it again.
>>46376553
>most overrated card in commander
this is tough because there's always a deck that will redeem any jank... almost
i'll go with thawing glaciers though
it isn't worth the hassle of actually using it
>>46376842
Just looking for instants and sorceries ??
Replenish wins games
I rarely lose after casting time spiral, it's just one of those cards that is too powerful
>>46376830
Tortured Existence.
Phyrexian Reclamation
Oath of Ghouls
Oversold Cemetery
Grave Scrabbler
Disturbed Burial
>>46376933
the card isn't bad it's just way overused
>>46376972
Thawing glaciers is slow and clunky but the card advantage is pretty serious
It does seem like few decks can really afford to invest in clunky card advantage like that
>>46376704
Still cancerous
>>46377079
I'm sorry I triggered you
I'm building Intet, the Dreamer for my next project, and I need some help. I don't want it to become generic goodstuff or Dragon tribal.dec, so are there any other fun things to do with it? I'm lost. Has anyone seen an Intet deck that was actually entertaining?
>>46377135
double strike effects are pretty useful for getting additional triggers out of intet
>>46377135
Guided Passage. Copy it, buyback it, return it from the graveyard, rebound it, etc. If your turn doesn't take longer than everyone else's turns combined, you're doing it wrong.
>>46376553
Most overrated card? Solemn simalcrum in my opinion. I most likely spelled that wrong.
I feel as If Sad Robot isn't amazing unless you can get more value than just one use
>>46377265
yeah, I don't think he's an auto include unless you have artifact/land/creature synergy with him
>>46377265
I definitely agree with that last statement, you need to get more than just a tapped basic out of it
However I'm not sure I'd agree it's overrated considering how easy it is to get more out of him, flicker, clone, sac reanimate
>>46377135
I run an Intet spellslinger list. I run Dragonstorm, so it has a tribal element, but it's mostly ramp, draw, and rituals.
>>46377119
You sound like you don't know what triggered means.
>>46377119
Stupid Jace poster
>>46376830
EVERYTHING related to Phyrexia. It's what I'd do.Either that or the most brutal mono B deck I could think of
>>46376984
It's bad
It's a bait
And you fell for it
Should I run angel tribal voltron Avacyn or boardwipe Avacyn with a focus on destroying lands?
>>46377828
>EVERYTHING related to Phyrexia. It's what I'd do.
I've done that, all the old Phyrexian cards (including all of the bad plague creatures and everything). It's fun... but not a good deck. You can do much better with Volrath by just building MBC and including a few fatties you can pitch to him to smack people into the ground.
>>46376553
>What is the most overrated card in commander?
I'd say countermagic as a whole is the most overrated thing in EDH. Players over-value it, both when using it and playing through it. You have multiple opponents, you literally cannot counter everything! Counters in EDH are much like spot removal: typically solid, rarely a total blowout, and worthless more often than you'd think.
If I had to pick a single card as the most overrated, I'd probably pick Jace, the Mind Sculptor. Everyone always talks shit about he's so amazing (and he is, in other formats), but in EDH I have literally never seen him do anything but draw an absurd volume of hate and die instantly.
>>46376731
>An overrated card in commander is Temple of the False God
I don't think overrated is the right word here, just overused. It has a home basically everywhere except for green-based decks. Other colors genuinely want the mana boost it provides (and black-based lists often can use Urborg to smooth it out a little). Going from 4 to 6 is a not inconsiderable jump, after all.
>>46378189
>Should I run [...] Avacyn
I really don't feel like you should, but if you do, try to make sure everything in your deck has more than 3 toughness.
>>46378189
Boardwipe LD Avacyn. Feed on the tears of the wicked. When they raise their voice in a clamor of blood and mayhem, aggro swinging and combos assembling, shout them down with all your force and verve. When their boards cry out for mercy in the face of your righteous onslaught, be silent.
>>46376830
>>46376982
In addition to these, Buried Alive and Strands of Night
>>46378205
Counterspells are good for keeping combos in check. Not for that fag that wants to play 60 counterspells.dec
>>46376830
Vengeful Pharaoh might also be useful
>>46378335
Yeah I have all the big white angels to run
>>46378517
I shall ignore their prayers for mercy
As a Jhoira player, how do I convince fuckers not to instantly focus me every game? Something about her just seems to send people into a rage.
>>46378707
Not playing Jhoira
>>46378707
The best way to convince people to not focus on you is to not be the scariest deck at the table. It's not rocket science mate. You're basically complaining that they won't let you do your thing in peace when your "thing" is casting literally anything for 2.
>>46378707
Suspend shit early that is board-relevant but not game breaking. If you're t3 Dark Steel Colosus in the sky then they SHOULD be focusing you. Play some stuff on the ground for a hot minute before breaking out the fireworks.
>>46378707
Maybe not play a super linear strategy? Jhiroa is not a well liked commander, her strategy is extremely one dimentional.
>>46376972
This card is stupid effective for deck thinning, especially with a control shell. If you're having trouble getting to your gas late game this guy is amazing, also synergizes with landfall triggers. Amulet of vigor makes this serious business, Argothian Elder and friends make it broken.
Overrated? Nah, shit's not talked about enough imo.
>>46376704
I am working on a Karametra deck. I want it to ramp into fatties like vorinclex, avacyn angel of hope, elesh, caraterhoof etc and cast big x spells like genesis wave and white suns zenith what are the must haves I need for the deck.
>>46376553
>>Overrated Card
pic related
Such a wasted slot 90% of the time, very rarely a blowout, and I've seen it backfire more than once. The ability is nice when playing vs some kind of blue control or a suicide black, but most every tutor and necropotence get around it.
>>46376704
>tfw updates all the time
>>46376830
Avatar of Woe
Run him as a reanimator deck, maybe throw in some discard effects to grab stuff from opponents and keep your gy safe. I'd throw in old kozy and ulamog for instant speed shuffles just in case shit hits the fan. Back-ups in case your pitch-creature-for-damage strat doesn't work like Sheoldred, Necrotic Ooze, or Filth. Basically, build stuff that works with your general but is also perfectly threatening on it's own.
Mind Twist.
>>46376731
It's a Sol land, nothing to scoff at. If you need a lot of colors, it's not for you, but dropping it untapped for 2 more mana is more than most lands can say, and of those almost all of them make you pay life or sac themselves or other lands.
>>46378707
Float some good-not-great shit and then when it's about to come out of the gate you either hardcast apocalypse or suspend it and crack it with time manipulation. If people see the end of the world coming, they'll stop it.
If they're gunning for her from t1, play her as a hyper-mana-efficent control deck with a zillion responses. Suspend threats at EoT and otherwise always have all your islands untapped to counter shit. Sort of like Teferi, except instead of paying full cost right now you get everything for 2 but have to wait 4 turns minus time manipulation.
>>46378631
Like I said, they're typically solid. However, most players I've played with seem to think that they're a terror or some shit.
>>46379264
I think the issue is that people treat Temple as a land when they're building their deck, and they really shouldn't. Have it occupy a mana rock slot. It may not sound like it matters much, but running a Temple of the False God in a 36 or less lands deck as opposed to a 37+ land deck does make it worse.
And for fuck's sake never keep a hand based on Temple's ability to maybe eventually produce mana. And don't ever throw it in a deck that wouldn't want things like Thran Dynamo or Worn Powerstone. It's excluvisvely a card for decks that want to produce exponentially more mana as the game goes on. So the fact that so many people run it does explain why it's often viewed as a vastly overrated card.
>>46376704
Don't have a pic anymore
>Liliana
Non Infinite, MBC
>Pharika
Animate and destroy lands
>Jeleva
How quickly can I Enter the Infinite?
>Saffi
Combo with slight Human tribal
>Hanna
Combo Control, no pillowfort
>Ulasht
GR Tokens. Hasn't won yet.
>Newzuri
Pretty standard, very binary
>Kalemne
Voltron. Quick commander damage
>Newzilek
It's mono brown
>Kazuul
Mono red control
>Nylea
Monster Mash.
I'm thinking of making Radiant, but I don't know if I want tokens or tribal angels.
Also have a pile of stuff for Jori-En, but I'm not sure how I want to go with the deck.
>>46378885
Thats a ridiculous thing to say. Juggling titans and bombs is a non-linear event.
>>46379751
>suspend boardwipe
>suspend fatty
Or alternately
>suspend fatty
>hardcast boardwipe just before fatty resolves
Alright so I removed some cards and added some cards, how should I go about making this deck more beefy? I'm going for the typical Artifact Bludgeon Brawl beatdown deck with an Urza theme using Mishra for mana base/Possibility Storm shenanigans.
What should get dropped and what should go in to keep with the Urza theme? http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/urza-and-friends/
>>46376830
Here is my mono black vampire commander deck. Some staples of mono black EDH are in there, feel free to take some.
http://deckstats.net/deck-9572086-92531bc2bcf66c39d66e65ec0cef88fb.html?builder=1
>>46376830
Black creatures with madness?
Do you guys have any strictly collection cards?
I know some people like collecting stupid cards like Tibalt. I have a friend that collects Chaos Imps, and one that just hordes Eldrazi of all types.
>>46380297
playset of foil Pyromancer Ascension
I also collect Warp Worlds
>>46380297
I do collect Tibalts when it's convenient. I have about seven because anyone who pulls one never drops it in their binder. But mostly just snatch up any and all Thespian Stages that I can.
Love those things.
>>46380297
Maybe...
>>46380297
>>46380407
...or then again, maybe not.
>>46380297
Sometimes I pick up cheap cards that are cool, but I'll probably never play just to have them, with Opal Eye being the most recent grab.
>>46380297
I had been collecting squandered resources for a while.
>>46380297
D'Avenant Archer. Over a hundred now.
What do yall think is the strongest mono white commander? Heliod, hokori, thalia, and rune-tail are some I have found.
>>46380676
Hokori is good. Iona and Norn can also be pretty fun.
>>46380529
Someone has a waifu
>>46380676
Related, how does Avacyn rate?
Making all your permanents indestructible seems extremely good, but yeesh, eight mana.
>>46380872
10/10in kaalia
>>46376704
>>46378707
>Something about her just seems to send people into a rage.
>Last night playing a game as Anafenza versus Sigg and Jhoira
>I have Anafenza, Oona's Blackguard, and Vryn Wingmare on the field. My opponent has a massive Sigg and a copy of Anafenza with swords
>"How big is Anafenza?"
>"She's a 4/4"
>Jhiora player tutors Wildfire
>Wildfire kills my board and his, but leaves a massive Anafenza and Sigg
>"Why didn't you tutor for All is Dust or something"
>He then reveals All is Dust
>"I don't know. It felt like the best call"
>Sigg player, which is his buddy, proceeds to win the game
I don't mind Jhoira. I mind dumbass plays.
>Yes, I'm still kinda salty.
>>46380529
>>46380629
>>46380838
Because it has a man-face. If he didn't want her, then no one would.
>>46380872
She's a 10/10 would stick my dick in if she were real.
>>46380872
>>46380895
She works with any deck that uses Quicksilver Amulet or Elvish Piper.
>>46380297
I might like Gorgons...
>>46380297
>>46381724
And Reaper would have been pretty good in Standard if Siege Rhino wasn't a thing.
why would you play this
>>46380297
>>46381724
>>46381752
I have no words regarding Hythonia though...
>>46381787
Because he knows how to have a good time with the soul sisters
>>46381787
Pariah all the way to the bank
>>46376553
>Be me at FNM
>Playing in tournement with local crowd
>split into pods
>Play a combo deck cause playing casually is for losers
>I also paid money to enter
>Start off with a turn one scute mob cuz lol why not
>They leave me alone
>Turns go by and no one has a boardstate other than scute mob
>Hit this one kid
>Turns go by no one is building except me
>Scute mob huge
>"So I'm thinking twenty at you?"
>"Dude please no, I'll give you a soda if you don't attack me"
>"A soda?"
>"Yeah don't attack me"
>Get a soda and I still comboed off and won
And you guys say this isn't a pay to win game
>>46381994
meant worship, jesus
>>46382037
You have found the ultimate scrub meta. Show them the power of the dark side. Run Stax.
>>46382080
Nah there are actually competent people there and actual competition. I was just sent to that pod because someone has to club seals apparently
Building Radiant.
Should I go with tokens or aim more tribal tribal angels?
>>46382319
>radiant
>will never be reprinted with new art
>wasn't in the FTV: Angels set
>>46382628
I wish Gisela would have been in FtV: Angels.
>>46378707
It all depends on what you suspend
If you suspend something like obliterate, what the fuck is anybody supposed to do except try to kill you before the counters are up
In general it's hard to suspend anything all that game breaking with jhoira if you don't want everybody to start ganging up on you
>>46379054
How has it backfired? Decking yourself?
I've never had a bad experience with the card but it's definitely not something I'm thrilled to see in my opening hand
>http://gatherer.com
I'm pretty site somebody changed this at some point to an incorrect address.
>>46378707
>guyz, why you attack me when I play jhoira? :(
I fucking wonder why.
People like this still exist?
>>46381787
he's like an inferior teysa
im thinking of using jori en, what am i in for? any recomendations?
>>46383179
I want to fuck that cripple
>>46383179
Honestly he seems better than new teysa
Much higher volume of tokens, less mana
I guess as a commander I prefer Teysa I
So I can be orzhov instead of mono white
>>46383313
>>46383313
Isochron scepter lets you cast more spells than you have cards, which in turn makes your card advantage with Jori en more sustainable
Running lots of instant speed can trips like brainstorm and telling time etc seems strong
>>46383540
what would be a good win condition?
>>46383600
Anything really
Rite of replication on purphoros
Talrand and purphoros
Insurrection
Merfolk tribal with shared animosity
Infinite turns with archaeomancer time warp etc
Omniscience
Can someone rate my deck please
tappedout.net
>>46384067
Kek
>>46384149
>Living end deck
Oohhh boiii
I bet the fun level on that deck has an exponential decay
After 3 games you realize all you do is draw cards and get the same shit with transmute until you living end and win
>>46384240
But you get to value out with evoke elemental and shit in the meantime
I for one hope he does make that deck it sounds fun to me besides the fact that graveyard decks are prone to getting blown out at the critical moment
>>46380297
Norin the Wary, all altered via sharpie by the person I get them from. I have over a hundred, all unique. Also, two that were professionally altered and a packfoil playset for my Modern deck.
Necropotence, of which I own about 50, all signed, a playset+ of every printing, with a few alters as well (all professional).
Best Artifact Commander for an Artifact Themed Deck?
>>46384240
Yeah, games are going to be pretty samey and it's not a very interactive deck, but it's still a ton of fun. Plus I get to run cool shit like Grozoth that I would otherwise never touch.
>>46384278
Thanks. I have Ground Seal to mitigate spot graveyard removal and I may be adding Leyline of Sanctity to get rid of effects that target players instead (Crypt, Bog, etc.). I fully plan on making this deck as it's actually really cheap to build.I damn well hope it encourages more graveyard hate in my meta. Meren players have been running all over the place uncontested and I'm sick of it. That's why I was also planning on building Kalitas.
>>46376704
>>46379086
>>46380938
>>46384149
So many post modern babies.
Fucking cancer like you is killing the format.
>>46384468
I started playing Magic in 7th Edition actually. I only started playing EDH in the past year though.
>>46384411
i like karn or memnarch
>>46384411
Do I need to say anymore?
>>46384468
Post what you got.
>>46384411
Sharuum is the best, but all the legendary artifact creatures are at least somewhat good.
>>46384468
What? I started playing back in Odyssey. Are you mad I'm not using anything from Legends?
>>46384468
I started playing with Mirage and I have a soft spot for old-bordered cards, I use brown artifacts whenever possible, but I still think you're a huge faggot. Playing with modern-bordered commanders has nothing to do with how long you've been playing the game, it's just that they offer more variety and are typically better. I'm not going to build Axelrod Gunnarson because of some retarded oldfag mentality that I must play with old cards always.
>>46384576
>>46384531
>>46384513
Thank you
>tfw Karn Liberated is expensive as fuck now
Should've bought him when he was $30. Fuck me. I'll have to settle for just having his Legendary form.
>>46384746
Not that karn. The creature one.
>>46384411
I posted >>46380008 as a kinda janky WIP deck but I doubt Mishra's ability is that great compared to other Artifact commanders
>>46384743
My nigga! I also got into MtG when Mirage dropped in late '96. Nice to see a fellow long-termer.
>>46384763
Yeah I know. I want the planeswalker one too.
>>46384870proxies
>>46384842
He makes all your artifacts uncounterable except by exile counter... which, yeah, isn't great but to my knowledge he's the only artifacts-centric commander that has both blue and red, though I'm probably forgetting something since UR artifacts has been a thing repeatedly.
Best artifacts commanders are Sharuum and Daretti. They won't make you any friends. I have some fun with Sydri and Feldon myself.
>>46380297Storm Crows
>>46380297
I have a copy of every basic land every printed, and most nonbasics
>>46385078
Nah, they can counter after his trigger fizzles. He is the best commander for an eggs/artifact storm deck, though.
>>46384468
Are you angry at what they're playing, or that they're playing post 7th?
>>46385078
>he makes all your artifact spells uncounterable
....... No :(
>>46380297
Someone gave me several dozen Fugitive Wizards and I still don't know why.
>>46385597
fudge, you're right. Can you even make his ability fire? I mean, Arcane Denial is a thing I suppose...
*ponders what others have no doubt pondered before and anon is too dull to figure out*
>Run Sigarda
>tfw Someone resolves All is Dust
I have never known bliss like this
>>46385785
Resolve a cataclysm for maximum hate
>>46385849
>Spells and abilities your opponents control
Still good in Sigarda though
>>46385785
How do you think Heron's Grace will hold up against Host of Herons?
>>46385785
If I could mind control the rules committee to ban one card, Sigarda would be out in a flash.
Until I manifest a jedi mind trick to do it, though, I'll settle for Final Judgment, Terminus, Evacuation, Mutilate, Decree of Pain, Decree of Annihilation, Apocalypse... my friends. That, or I could go for the ultimate bliss and melt Sigarda's face with pic related. It would be worth every permanent.
(And no, this is not because I'm butthurt over having thrown an AID at Sigarda. That's between regular retarded and "Hardcast Scornful Egoist" retarded depending on whether or not it was a multiplayer board. I'm dumb, but not that dumb)
>>46385946
>Spells and abilities your opponents control
That wizards foresight.
>>46385948
I had a go at brewing it. Ended up as a generic soldier tribal weenies / human goodstuff. I wasn't tempted at all to build it. At least I don't have to be that guy that has two decks of his waifu and nothing else. I was sort of dreading that. I love the new art, though.
>>46384468
>mfw a friend looked through my old cards and asked me what banding was
These whippersnappers and their keywords
>>46386007
>Ban Sigarda
>Not Reliquary Tower
>Not pic related
>>46386171
I've just gotten into EDH recently, and only have one deck.
Human tribal would be nice to make, even though I'm a little more partial to soldier decks. Gisela rather than Sigarda. Still, Innistrad looks like a fun place to start with a humanity fuck yeah deck.
>>46386180
I've literally only ever seen it in Shandalar by Microprose. Iirc it lets you assign combat damage done your creatures banded together, right?
>>46380297
Full art lands and every possible copy of Uncle Istvan
>>46383179
I need teysa suggestions, I want to make a good EDH deck with her.
>>46386180
I was playing back when banding was a thing and honestly, I'm no longer even sure how it works. Banding was weird.
>>46386210
>He thinks a wincon that requires an advanced board and a land that could easily be replaced by a 0 mana artifact are bans
Seriously though, Sigarda just pisses me off at a philosophical level. She's not THAT powerful (being purely defensive) though she is a damned strong voltron commander thanks to being a big evasive hexproof idiot in good enchantment colors.
But even then she'd be a better ban than Craterhoof (The only way battlecruiser games ever fucking end, and useless if the table is packing wraths), or Reliquary tower (Did you throw darts at a random set's print sheet to suggest that one? It's a decent card but nothing to get butthurt over)
>>46386340
>>46386180
Banding is fun as hell. Screws trample hardcore, too. Reminds me I need to brew Soraya the Falconer.
>>46386269
> I want to make a good EDH
I suggest using the other Teysa,
>>46386349
>Craterhoof
It's a meme you dip
>Reliquary Tower
It's referring to a horrible store banlist that was in the previous thread. It was true cancer. Can somebody post that? Apart from 'bully' commanders, Reliquary Tower was inexplicably on there.
You're right about Sigarda, though. Merciless Eviction is my boogeyman. Enchantment destruction is ludicrously cheap, but nobody packs enchantment hate.
>>46386210
>Reliquary Tower
Not this again. Those people behind that banlist must be the most casual you can get while still knowing how to play.
>>46386269
>good
>new teysa
I'm sorry anon. She's overpriced, her propaganda ability isn't that exciting, her body is, ironically enough, unimpressive. There is no good way to build around her.
If you want to play Orzhov good stuff and just never cast her, that's fine. Unfortunately, she's basically the worst Orzhov commander except maybe one of the Obzedats.
Which deck do you have the most fun with?
Pic related
>>46384468
I thought you died after I called you out for being the hipster you are. Still working on that handlebar mustache?
>>46386680
Phenax was the most fun I've had with commander. Unfortunately I never stuck with him
>playing mono green shenanigans in today's pod
> turn 5 get Shaman of the Forgotten Ways off a kicked Thicket Elemental
> pass turn, next guy draws, smiles, and says "dude. You've gotta activate him next turn. It'll be hilarious
> not enough mana, but on my next upkeep after the other two i topdeck Cradle
> play it, activate shaman
> dude flashes in a wrath of God
Making a 4 way draw, we all lost it, other pods ask what happened and we explain, entire store is laughing.
So, any great moments from your most recent game, /tg/?
>>46386501
Their formatting is a bit ass on their website
Cards that can’t be used as generals:
Jhoira of the Ghitu
Maelstrom Wanderer
Nareset Enlightened Master
Prossh, Skyraider of Kher
Sharuum the Hegmon
Skytherix Sigarda
Additional cards that can’t be played at all:
Apocalypse
Arcum Dagsson
Armageddon
Blightsteel Colossus
Consecrated Sphinx
Craterhoof Behmoth
Dead-Eye Navigator
Iona, Shield of Emeria
Jin-Gitaxias
Kokusho
Maelstrom Wanderer
Mycosynth Lattice
Obliterate
Omniscience
Prophet of Kruphix
Purphoros, God of the Forge
Reliquary Tower
Rite of Replication
Ruination
Vorinclex
Zur, the Enchanter
Store watch list:
Food Chain
Rhystic Study
Sensei’s Diving Top
Also, any card that grants an extra turn is exiled and cannot be retrieved nor cast for again by any player. Players may not take more than two turns in a row.
Players will be broken down into groups of 4-6 players. Only on rare occasions (once or twice a year) do players participate in one-on-one games.
No card or ability can be activated, nor can any spell be played, nor any ability triggered, more than three times in a turn before turn 8. After turn eight, it can be done up to four times.
Players can’t take more than two consecutive turns.
After the 12th turn of the table, there is no limitation. These rules exist to limit combos to a point and to keep Monday nights fun.
Players are encouraged to relax and enjoy themselves. This is Magic at its most casual level. Everyone should focus on enjoying themselves.
Everyone gets to play their cards as they choose. Sure there will be some table politics, but keep them to a minimum. You’re not playing for high stakes here.
If a player wins a pod, they MAY NOT play that deck the following week.
Remember to have fun.
source
http://thegamecloset.com/wp/events?entry=142&display=month
>>46386925
Jesus Christ, I'm surprised anyone goes there at all.
>>46386703
Wut
>>46380676
I think Linvala is up there but she draws so much hate
>>46386925
>remember to have fun
I can't not read this sarcastically. All it's missing is a :^) at the end.
>>46386998
There was a faggot going on about anons playing legends that weren't white bordered at some point and I called to attention what a hipster douche he was being. That was like 6 months ago, and hadn't heard any mention of "modern commanders" or anything like that since.
>>46386925
>If a player wins a pod, they MAY NOT play that deck the following week.
>>46386215
This is probably horrible, horrible advice, but Sigarda, Heron's Grace seems like something you can just slap on a human-heavy G/W deck. It's not going to be absurdly good, but there are only like two top-tier commanders in this format anyway, plus she'll actually be a serious asset to the deck beyond just providing color, which is more than a Tolsimir or an Agrus deck can claim
>>46387048
>play in pod with guy who has one deck
>set up to combo out
>cast final fortune
>kill 2 players
>can't use trigger again
>lose game
>player with one deck wins
>guess he can't play next week
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>46387075
>Tolsimir decks
Those don't exist, don't be a retard
>>46387098
Didn't even think of that. Kingmaking would be hilarious at this shop.
>>46383179
Not even close
Teysa is almost entirely better on the card, but the difference between "damage" and "combat damage" is massive. There are combos you can do with Darien at instant speed that can go infinite, whereas making Teysa go infinite is nigh impossible. Darien is cheaper and requires only one color. This drastically inhibits card options, most notably tutor and draw, but does make it a much cheaper and more flexible land and mana base. Also, one flyer vs. damage for number of dudes is a gigantic difference. I got hit by an ulamog = 11 dudes to sac and block with for several more rounds, or I get a 1/1 to chump while I scramble for an answer with my dwindling mana base.
If anything, he's a superior Teysa.
Best guildmage in Ravnica or best guildmage of all time?
>>46387688
5/10 it's alright. Does go infinite easier than most other guildmages I know of.
>>46387771
Izzet guildmage is pretty spicy
>>46387688
Best Pauper commander I've ever had.
>tfw Hallow'd a 6 target fireball for huge gain/drain.
>>46376704
i took apart kamahl, krenko, arjun, and zurgo, im trying to cut back on decks
>>46380465
We you fucking lucked out then cause they're like $8 now.
God, fuck this shit.
>>46382319
tokens, tribal sucks ass unless the creature is good on its own (see linvala)
>>46388079
Gitrog speculationfags
>>46388255
Explain
>>46388413
I'm not that anon but a good reason would be because most angels are higher costed so it'll be tougher to effectively take advantage of Radiant's ability, not to mention you'd be locked into mono white which lacks the card draw and ramp to keep spamming large bodies. You can still be on theme with creatures like emeria angel and requiem angel.
>>46388413
>Explain
Alright:
http://magiccards.info/query?q=t%3A%22angel%22&v=card&s=cname
Replace angel with any 'tribe' and you see how shitty some creatures are. Luckily for you a large amount of angels do things on their own, probably because their theme is protecting regular people. But something like serra avenger, serra angel, archangel, avenging angel ... the list goes on and on and these angels do jack shit in EDH. Some of them ironically are playable in other constructed formats, but not in EDH.I don't hate tribal, in fact I'm building General Tazri as I type, but don't shove every angel/goblin/merfolk/elf/snek/wizard in just because its that type. Make sure it's good enough on it's own, or otherwise extremely powerful.
>>46376933
Its good for decks with X spells and untap shenigans. 2 more cards on your bluesun/ sphinxes rev matters when youre looking for answers.
>>46388503
I didn't know that 'tribal' meant 'jam creatures in just because the type works'. And that sounds sarcastic, but I was genuinely inferring from you that tribal is only good in very specific circumstances
>>46388564
People do that, and it's annoying because they lose hard whenever they pull out some shitty merfolk or whatever.
>>46382319
I also feel like building something I haven't built before (I'm >>46388503 ), so anyways I'll recommend some stuff.
Since the only unique effect Radiant, Archangel has going on is buffing herself she'll lend towards being more aggressive. Therefore as your general should be your beatstick it's best to stick with anything around that cmc or lower the (playable) angels that fit that are:
Emeria Angel (this is the best thing with your general)
Angel of Finality
Angel of Flight Alabaster (if spirits)
Angel of Jubilation
Angelic Field Marshal
Archangel of Thune (pretty good, but maximise with some lifelink equips/enchants (not aura enchants))
Archangel of Tithes
Avacyn, Guardian Angel (kindof meh)
Baneslayer Angel
Blinding Angel
Guardian Seraph (also pretty meh)
Herald of War
Herald of the Host (kinda cute in buffing your general, but otherwise lackluster)
Karmic Guide
Linvala, Keeper of Silence
Haunted Angel (good aggressive, but otherwise doesn't do much)
Restoration Angel
Apart from those just find good token generators, saclands to go with emeria angel, storm herd is ok but takes up a whole turn. Try to stick to a low cmc. Despite being anti synergistic with tokens, Ghostway and Eerie Interlude protects you from wraths which are the bane of aggressive decks. Find ways to give your guys shroud, preferably through creatures so you can run stuff like Serenity, Purify and Austere Command without hurting yourself.
You don't have to run all the cards I mentioned if they are out of budget.
>>46388723
>>46388564
Forgot to mention MLD is pretty good in aggressive decks. Don't be a fag who wants to circlejerk with his buddies to Avacyn's feet, you're here to play good magic
>>46386992
If they enjoy it that way, then who the fuck are you to say it's wrongbadfun?
>>46377328
Or just imprint him in the mimic vat with a sac oulet out
>>46387048
What would even count as "the same deck?" What if they switched out commanders? What if they switched out a couple cards? Is there a certain percentage different it has to be?
>>46380297
I collect non standard standard lands like snow covered, full art, foil.
Also mana producing myrs.
I know this gets posted a lot, and for that I apologize, but what's the secret tech for Mishra EDH (besides Possibility Storm) and how do I order the stack to make sure I can fetch countered shit from my graveyard with him?
>>46380297
I'm buying a set of all commons from every expansion since theros (yeah, newbie here)
>>46389662
Nether Void, Blood Funnel (personally I don't like it but I run a few more instants, sorceries and planeswalkers than I should) and Nullstone Gargoyle
Building animar morphs , give me your tech and morphs
>>46376830
Secret tech
>>46378707
Suck them off under the table before the game begins
>>46385694
Sure, you can play Blood Funnel, possibility storm and that one enchantment from legends that counter everything unless caster pays 3, for example.
>>46386540
I didn't buy her. I pulled 3 them in boosters.
>>46376704
Out of the 4 in the middle which one should I go and work towards finishing? From most complete to least complete it's probably something like Karlov > Mishra > Anafenza > Mina & Denn
>>46388503
>>46382319
>>46388723
I've ran the same angel "tribal" deck for around 2 or three years, they're more viable than you think. Just play politics and convince people you aren't the strongest deck there, because you usually aren't. I suggest Aurelia as a commander because if you survive to the point late in the game where everyone is low, Aurelia comes in swinging and doubles the damage people think you have. RW also gets you access to Sunforger. If you do stay monowhite, Land Tax, Weathered Wayfarer, Ornithopter, and Tithe are whites few ramp spells, i suggest them highly.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/birdwomen/
>>46392217
Lets pretend that post says Pilgrim's Eye instead of Ornithopter.......
If I crack a fetch with gitrog on field do I search then draw, opposite or I can choose order?
>>46379054
The trick to notion theif is to play him with a ton of wheels. Wheel of fortune turns into "each opponent discards their hand, draw 28 cards."
>>46392040
Anon meant overcosted meaning her mana cost.
>>46392255
The fetchland ability will go on the stack first, then Gitrog's ability will go on the stack, so the draw ability will resolve first.
Technically you put something on the stack, then pay all costs, including saccing the fetchland.
>>46386540
Original Ghost Council is amazing. The newer one kind of sucks as a commander though.
>>46382319 here
>>46382628
It is truly suffering.
>>46388255
There are some great flying white creatures that just happen to be angels. Someone pointed out earlier that Emeria Angel is perfect in the deck, for example.
>>46388723
Yea, that's a solid list, most of which I was on my mental list as well. Resto Angel may iffy.
>>46392217
I already have a RW who punches people in the mouth (Kalemne), and Aurelia is a big part of that, but you're probably right.
>>46387046
I still see them every other edh thread.
>>46392197
>Skeleton Ship
Class Act.
Work on Mishra, I'd say. Theme decks are fun.
>>46386680
yooo, decklist?
>>46392197
Fuck the Grand Arbiter
>>46393280
Sane citizen detected.
Seize him!
>>46393326
NO FUCK YOU. I WILL NEVER BOW.
>>46393426
You, too, will learn how to hate fun.
>>46393565
>Anyone thinking hedonism is a viable philosophy
I had fun once and it was awful
I got a couple of questions.
How many equipment should I run in a RW EDH? And besides the swords, what equipments are worth it?
How many do I need to run to make Puresteel Paladin worth it?
>>46395395
Sunforger
Skullclamp
SoFaF
Greaves
Sunforger
Maybe one or two others Sword of X&Y
Sword of the Animist?
Sunforger
Sunforger
>>46395395
>How many equipment should I run in a RW EDH?
0-40. Seriously depends on way more than the deck colors.
Swords are good of course
Loxodon Warhammer hasn't stopped being cool.
Sunforger is great for RW... or should be, you have targets don't you?
Beyond that it's down to what supports your strategy. Are you goodstuff? Wrath-happy control? Equipment Voltron? Are you Gisela? Jor Kadeen? Or are you maybe Kalemne, Munda, or Tajic?
I figure Puresteel turns on when you reliably have multiple equipment. So if you're creating a package that tutors, equips, and assembles. That'd usually imply at least 10 equipments I'd say though the number could go higher. But it's part of a package, not really great on its own.
>>46395443
I run most of these and I added Hero's Blade since it's cheap and will automatically attach to my commander when she comes out.
>>46395395
Here's mine
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/22-01-16-kalemne-smash/
I only run like 12 because Kalemne gets big from other sources, too. I run a sword package, boots/greaves, Jitte, Exoskeleton, DS Plate, Blade of Selves (might replace it), Animist, and Tenza.
When it was Nahiri, I also used a Kaldra set, some flying (to protect Nahiri), and a few others like Mask of Memory.
>>46395512
Tajic can run an equipment deck? Neat. I'll have to give that a shot sometime.
>>46396017
I listed tajic as the alternate. He wants more creatures rather than equipped creatures. To a lesser extent Munda and Kalemne are like that, but >>46395706 proves Kalemne can be built with significant equipment.
If you can make it work, more power to you
>>46396200
I'm a little biased when it comes to Commanders. If it's not an all-encompassing, game-changing bonus, I don't consider it powerful enough to compete.
Maybe it's because everyone in my play group plays Narset, Jeleva, or a god or something and a little deck built for flavour or just goodstuff just can't compare, so Tajic falls by the wayside.
>>46397059
This sounds like the play group you wanna run an unassuming norin commander deck against. They'll let their guards down and then you can kick them to the curb.
>tfw just wanted to build playful low powered decks after going full spike and playing a niv-mizzet combo machine deck
>my playgroup just goes full bitch niggas and conspire to keep me out of every game
Time to make another infinite combo deck wew lads.
>>46397092
I can't make a Boros soldier deck out of Norin, but I get what you're trying to say. I don't just want to build with the express purpose of countering decks at my FLGS, especially considering I plan on moving soon.
>people think angel tribal even makes sense
The thing that makes a tribal deck a tribal deck is synergies for that creature type. Think of the merfolk lords giving all the merfolk +1/+1 and islandwalk, or rattlechains giving your spirits flash, or that one kamigawa wizard giving all your wizards "tap draw a card". And then there non creature cards like riptide laboratory bouncing your wizards or that land that regenerates your rats.
None of this shit exists for angels. Angel tribal might as well be a meme because it sure as hell isn't a real thing. What you have is a casual waifufag deck, not a real deck and certainly not a tribal deck.
PS avacyn got what she deserved
>>46381787
Urborg+Karma+Soul Sister+Darien
Fun times
>>46395512
1-40, anon.
Boros decks should pretty much always run Sunforger.
help me brothers, logged onto /tg/ today and theres some shitty new interface. How the fuck do I get rid of it?
>>46397740
Brother look calendar and wait 24hours.
I'm building a Captain Sisay deck. I hear she will draw hate due to being a tutor general. I just want to use her to get Reki and then not run out of motherfucking cards.
What do you guys think when a Sisay player sits down at your table? Kill on sight?
>>46397776
Goddamn this shit. Its not april 1st where I live any longer why do I have to put up with it for *two* whole days??
>this april fool's joke
just fuck my shit up
>>46397816
Well I mean you can't expect people to just not try to kill captain sisay but I wouldn't say she draws an especially high amount of hate
>>46397816
I would judge Sisay player from their 1-2 tutors
Wouldn't Avacyn fit just fine in an Iroas deck, or am I misunderstanding the context of the word 'die'
>>46397816
Depends? I don't generally kill any permanent on sight if I can avoid it. The more threatening something is the more likely my other opponents are to kill it or me. As a result my judgment for when I end up being the one to spend the card is based mostly on feel, it varies game to game and it's always hard to make the right choice.
>>46398197
Well she stops things from dying and Iroas can't die usually and stops attacking things from dying.
>>46398197
I think you are missing the context of she does 3 damage to all your shit on an upkeep, and your shit is only immune to damage on your combat phase
>>46398218
I meant new Avacyn.
>>46398253
And also yeah, that's a good point, I'm bad at reading comprehension.
Man, this janky-ass card really doesn't have a place, does it?
>>46397816
See what she tutors. If it looks like trouble, blow shit up until it doesn't look like trouble anymore.
If I don't have a good instant-speed F-U answer, I might have to be more proactive. There's a lot of stuff Sisay could fetch that could ruin me. For instance, if the answer I'm holding is All Is Dust, I'm dropping it before she can get Sigarda.
>>46398312
It might. It's not inherently that powerful in edh but if your deck doesn't have a lot of 3 toughness or less stuff she saves your stuff from a board wipe while also being a body. Some decks probably want that effect. Also if you're one of THOSE people who play Gisela edh, with Gisela in play her flip deals 6 to everything and only 1 to your own stuff
>>46398379
>if you're one of THOSE people who play Gisela edh
I don't want to be, but as far as Boros commanders go that actually play like Boros, it's either her, Aurelia, or sucking cocks.
>>46398430
Face it anon all the boros commanders suck.
>>46398312
Boros Avacyn is good with flicker effects, which white has plenty of. None of the existing Boros generals lend themselves to a Ghostway deck to my knowledge, so she might be best used to build around, although Flash is a little weaker in the Command Zone than out of hand due to being telegraphed.
>>46398455
Basically true.
And as far as being one of THOSE people for playing Gisela... she's better than either Sigarda or Bruna. Powerful but managable, her deck can run largely without her but she makes it all better. Lot of versatility though damage-based wrathing is an obvious include.
>>46398312
New Avacyn gives things indestructible, Iroas is indestructible, Avacyn has a trigger on something dying, Iroas prevents damage.
>>46398031
>>46398368
First one is Reki, the History of Kamigawa, and the second is probably Karametra.
There is a dirty combo of Kamahl + Crovax (can't afford Elesh Norn) which is exclusively for if I end up against some high level shit, rest of the time its tutoring random legends as a substitute for drawing cards
>>46398213
Earlier in the thread people describe Jhoira as kill on sight. I kill Grand Arbiter and shitbird on sight. I've never seen a Sisay deck before but a friend of mine described it as getting a lot of hate.
>>46398455
Stoutarm is fucking boss, and a friend of mine runs an Iroas deck that can quite reliably take down two players by T5.
Admittedly if it doesn't, or theres three players, it goes to shit
Its the double combat and double damage angels which I reckon are crap generals due to expensive and huge removal targets
>>46398566
Oh yea I forgot broom stoutarm, hes extremely cool although his decks are kind of all the same thing and I know two people who play him so I'd never want to build him myself unless I moved to another city. But yeah other than him, boros generals suck. Iroas sucks especially hard, neither of his abilities are that good and even if he's indestructible he stops being a creature when they kill your stuff. I don't like him at all but maybe that's just because the groups i play with are more likely to aetherspouts or wrath my aggro decks than they are to actually try to play creatures and block them.
>>46398524
I like Gisela too but I don't think she's that good. Bruna is her own stupid cancer ass deck that is boring af to play so I won't talk about her but sigarda has many advantages over bruna, such as being much cheaper to play and yet also much better at protecting herself. At the same time she doesn't actually DO anything so I can't say I'd ever play her that's for sure.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/29-03-16-the-harvest/
Posted this a few days ago and got some great advice that really changed the deck, but I still feel like this is missing some things. Suggestions very much appreciated, I don't know a lot about EDH.
>>46398808
>I don't think she's that good
When I said "Good" I meant in "Not being an utterly hate-inciting abomination" not "Being a strong commander choice".
>>46397863
I have this open from last night so as long as I don't refresh and just keep hitting update all I get of the april fools joke is just the fake names.
>>46398566
Oh also I was going to say, Jhoira is definitely kill on sight but what I was trying to get at is that even when something is kill on sight I'd rather someone be the one doing the killing while I get to keep my removal spells in my hand for later. The difference between Jhoira and Sisay is that if nobody else is going to kill Jhoira I really have to do is asap cuz if they untap with her they can suspend their entire hand and then we're really on the rollercoaster. Sisay, on the other hand, is not generally as scary because a lot of her decks are more good stuff and pillowfort than they are combo. If I knew you to be one of THOSE Sisay players you can bet I'd kill her pronto every time (and kill your thousand year elixir / lightning greaves pronto as well) but if you just want to durdle that's probably actively a good thing for me because it will make you look threatening and people will shift their attention to you.
>>46398942
yeah. I guess the only boros generals that fit that description are her, stoutarm, and aurelia. I have never heard of a jor kadeen deck but his ability seems powerful and there are a lot of efficient token producers in boros, so maybe he's good? basandra would be cool but they accidentally printed "players" instead of "opponents" on her static ability, thanks wizards. people like iroas for some reason I don't understand, razia is garbage, really just all the rest of these legends are like vaguely combat based but in ways that don't work well in edh. like just fucking look at tajic. this mook can be a 6/6 indestructible for 4, except he asks you to run lots of creatures in what is clearly meant to be a voltron deck. c'mon tajic, get your shit together.
>niggas hating on boros legends
it's not about the general famalams. it's about the 99. all these clowns and their overpowered buildaround commanders get so greedy when they build their deck, like oh let's add all these colors and all these nonbasic lands and let's fill it to the brim with battlecruiser ass value cards that synergize with my commander.
play it slow. let them start getting their shit online. then you fucking cataclysm them. that's how we do boros, my friends
>>46399477
>Sidisi self mill no reanimator
???
So what, all in on the zombie tokens?
