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Threadly reminder that you can (and should) contribute.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Talk:/tg/_White_Dwarf
https://1d4chan.org/wiki//tg/_White_Dwarf
And yes, we'll be called Red Giant.
>>46370407
I still feel like you can do better than taking the name of another magazine created by employees who left GW. If nothing else, when you google 'Red Giant Magazine' they dominate the results, which is terrible for you from a branding perspective.
>>46370445
they exist? then why the hell are anons constantly proposing it?
yes, I admit I did no research on what exists and what doesn't, I was content with "/tg/ White Dwarf", but still.
>>46370407
>>46370445
... Why not "The Greasy Goblin"...?
No...? Alright...
>>46370477
Because it's really fucking old and the people proposing that name either weren't born or were very young when it existed.
I only had a few issues if I remember correctly, it didn't do terribly well.
>>46370524
That's not bad.
>>46370477
People wanted a name separate from White Dwarf to make it clear that we're not in any way beholden or tied to GW in any way. You just need to be careful that in stepping away from them you don't tread on anyone else. Anons are retarded, wanted a name with both Sci Fi and Fantasy to invoke old White Dwarf (though as this magazine is going to be focused on Warhammer Fantasy I don't see why) and they can't be bothered to do research.
Personally I liked 'Fa/tg/ut'.
>>46370563
It is old, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. If it still dominates the Search results, it's not irrelevant.
>>46370563
ah, okay.
still, need a different new name now
>>46370583
I meant more in regards to people proposing the name and not knowing the magazine ever existed rather than because it is no longer published it doesn't exist. I'm just bad at words.
>>46370583
>Personally I liked 'Fa/tg/ut'.
I'm not even sure it's good taste to post 4chan screencaps, and you're proposing full-on meme name. It's supposed to be MADE by /tg/ not BE /tg/. it's supposed to capture the quality of White Dwarf (or, at least, mythical quality, since I've heard anon say it was never actually good)
>>46370445
>>46370477
We propose it because it keeps the spirit of being a fictional being while at the same time being an astronomical term.
Also, if nobody remembers a short lived and obscure magazine, why would we care about it.
The other option is Blue Giant, which still works.
>>46370723
Blue Giant sounds like a name of a gay club
>>46370758
Eye of the beholder and all that. Hadn't crossed my mind, so perhaps the problem is yours.
Not to mention that the difference between the words red and blue is non existant, in how quick they roll out of your tongue if anything.
https://youtu.be/2a9nF8X2Yd4
>>46370407
>>46370445
>>46370477
I liked fa/tg/ut but lets face it, if it's /tg/ sponsored it will have to involve elven debauchery some how.
Here's my vote for "black elf".
>>46371306
How the fuck do the VC ally with anyone though?
Someone post that youtube comment screen shot of the butt mangled total war fan.
>>46371543
DO you mean how do they ally lorewise, or how do they ally within the rules of the game?
I can't answer the latter, but for the former, Vampire Counts probably seem more palpable than Chaos. Some of them treat their subjects with respect and don't just use them as bloodbags.
>>46371543
>How the fuck do the VC ally with anyone though?
In the video about corruption, they mention agents going undercover to spread it and undermine people. I assume that (at least in my head) most of the VC territory is going to be rule by puppets, we're totally just regular Imperial nobles you guys, no need for garlic.
>>46371680
>>46372011
Humans on the local level are either intimidated, seduced, or prefer Vampire rulership. Look at Sylvania and Strigany, or Ulrika the Vampire Lahmians.
>>46370684
i would read screen caps from quest thread.
or abstracts of them.
The free company just keeps hanging on, they must have had tons of them in stock.
>>46372829
goddammit... and Caliver told me they were sold out... grrrr.
>>46372829
but its ~da bes gw kit evur~ and everyone wanted it
how can they be selling overstock of such a highly demanded, perfect, wonderful kit?
>>46372898
I do not know of anybody selling them at a discount but even the GW price is reasonable.
Same price per model as the Frostgrave soldiers box.
>>46372914
whats wrong with it ?
i liked the guy with the eyepatch so i bought two boxes
>>46373116
He is just being a shit because lots of people like the kit.
In the last thread there was Cathay chat and someone said Nippon should be Cathay's Brets?
Yes please.
Check out this video on YouTube:
http://youtu.be/iZxCG5s50WA
>>46373050
first of all, it is not
secondly, GW has no free delivery. i live far away from GW stores and Calivers' free delivery is a godsend
>>46373582
£1 a model is perfectly reasonable, 50 pence like the Perry's would be nicer of course.
>>46373824
It was disappointing in more than one way to discover this wasn't meant to be an ogre opening the thumbnail
>>46372829
Tempted to buy another box. You don't really see a lot of them on ebay (just badly painted or $200 pro painted units).
>>46373582
>GW has no free delivery
they do though? I'm not sure what your region is like, but orders over $65USD/$80CAD get free shipping.
>>46370407
>red giant
All is well.
>>46373824
This is my favorite vampire model desu
>>46374068
and I don't spend that much normally
for instance now I need just a box or two of FC
>>46373797
"Dammit, who stuck googly eyes in Sekhbob's sockets?"
>>46374471
Well 2 boxes of FC is $70
>>46372065
I just find it interesting how WFB has a third faction - I guess you could lump them together as the Dead - outside of the Chaos and Order that got carried over to 40k.
>>46375219
Death was a villain in Warhammer before Chaos was. The first scenario was against Goblins, the first campaign was Undead.
Chaos was mentioned in 2e, and only at the end of 3e right before 4e did it become a legitimate faction rather than an alternative word to saying evil over and over. Which was the same time 40k came out.
>>46372829
Damn that's some pretty scenery. I wish I had ever had the wherewithal to make a proper town to fight in.
>>46375505
I'd have to re-read my Rogue Trader, but if Chaos is in there, it isn't a big thing.
>>46376881
it's made by an italian company it think.
very expensive. but also pretty. They had a Kickstarter a while ago to get their range going. They also have indoor pieces for dungeon crawling and stuff.
with these fucking last chances I wasted a fucking lot of money on minis. and why I reationally know that I did the right thing, buying stuff I need and which I would try to buy anyway while it's cheaper, I still feel like shit having wasted so much money at once on toys.
can someone please reassure me that I did the right thing and there's nothing wrong with it?
>>46377373
You wasted a ton of money, but it doesn't matter because you're going to be dead soon anyways.
>>46377373
You cucked yourself out to gw
>>46377373
If you have buyer's remorse, you can wait because its gonna be a seller's market.
Plus, you will be able to call yourself an oldfag. You saw the end of an era and got souvenirs.
>>46377459
...but cuckolding is withholding sex.
So cucking yourself would be NOT buying.
Your term would be "whoring yourself to GW".
>>46377373
Naw, I did the same. I would have regret even more missing out on the stuff I got, and I won't miss the stress of trying to find that shit on Ebay.
>>46377608
Cuckholding is letting Someone else fuck your wife
In this case the wife is your wallet that you could fuck buy buying nice cheap 3rd party minis, but instead you let gw stick their smeggy cocks into it
>>46372914
It is one of the best kits, but not everybody plays mordheim/regiments of renown, and the Empire players don't have a huge need of the militia unit.
Just like some of the hero sculpts they killed are some of the best ones, not everybody needs 10 heroes, 1 or 2 per type and army is usually enough.
>>46377373
It is a lot of money now. But mmthink in terms of food, or the cinema, or a shitty weekend trip. Yes,they can be awesome experiences, but once had, all that is left is their memory.
Your warhams will stay with you forever, or until you decide to burn them and upload a video of the feat to youtube. The money per hour of entertainment ratio is very good when it comes to miniatures, there are far more expensive hobbies. Fuck, an entry level reflex camera is easily 400£, add two decent lenses and a few filters and you are sitting of 1000£.
Also, if you have a lot of minis, you will be able to force your children and partner to play with you.
>>46377689
>3rd party
Sometimes I think you people actually don't realise that someone might want the actual models.
>>46377373
but it wasnt cheaper ?
>>46377802
These days? Some of the official minis are great, though the number is going down all the time due to squattings. I'd be tempted to pick up some Sisters of the Thorn before they vanish (because deer-riding elf mage chicks), especially seeing as there are no good alternates, but I'd rather do it from a non-GW FLGS or Ebayer since GW will have already been paid in those cases.
They don't support the game I want to play, I don't support them in their round-based endeavors. It's lose-lose but I consider that a better outcome than lose for me - win for them.
>>46377750
>Fuck, an entry level reflex camera is easily 400£, add two decent lenses and a few filters and you are sitting of 1000£.
you know, this instantly made me feel better. I have a bunch of shit-level photographer friends (you know, the sort that believe that camera makes the artist), and realizing they spent much more money than I did on something that's basically wasted on them is very therapeutic
thanks, anon
>>46377920
it's cheaper than getting OOP stuff on ebays later
>>46377943
but since we're talking about the minis that are being squatted in the first place, yes, some of those are actually awesome minis.
>>46377943
Reminder that gw is pretty much inferior to anyone who's actually bothered to make an alternative anyway.
>>46378091
BUT THERE'S NO ALTERNATIVE STORMCASTS!
MUAHAHA, GW HAS A MONOPOLY THERE!gw also had monopoly on egyptian skeletons, but... oh well, nevermind.
>>46378091
If you find one for Sisters, let everyone know. Unsupported Age has horse-bound dark elves and centaurs in that slot.
Hey, guys.
I know I already popped up in this thread, but your help would be really appreciated.
We already have a rough plan for the first issue, and a few articles are in progress, so it has actually began.
BUT without your help we won't be able to complete it. Feel free to pick a topic and write something or post some pictures. We need more pictures, and not those from google - original pictures. Model photos, artworks, anything.
Don't be scared if what you want to propose doesn't fit the plan, we're flexible and nothing is set in stone.
Have a nice day!
>>46378157
I just shrugged and converted my sisters as mounted dryad-elf hybrids.
So, /whfb/, what are you currently working on?
>>46378091
Except for Skaven, every single Skaven alternative looks fugly except for maybe a Verminlord or two.
>>46378157
Yea unfortunately there are plenty of very specific units that don't get covered.
However in the same way chaos dwarves have had 20 different companies make them I'm sure we'll start to see tomb kings of some description before 2017
Gamezone has a handful but I think that's it really
>>46378377
Reaper also, but that's mostly characters, iirc
>>46377689
Well, I guess that works. Not a great comparison, but still makes sense.
But you need to fully illustrate your point in the first post. Also, format your posts because damn.
>>46378118
Nah, Reaper Bones has some good Egyptian skeletons.
>>46378199
Headed out west across the mighty sea
I'm shipped UPS from the land of the Queen
Starin' at bubbles
And hope to Breton
The address is written down right
I made it to New York in seventeen days
But ahead of me I still got a ways
And I'm hopin' the Lady
Will see me to Cali tonight
So paint me silver like a cared-for blade
Paint me with varnish so I don't fade
Hail my liege, paint me
Paint my standard, paint my heraldry
So our foe across the table can see
Hail my liege, paint me
My first Lord was angered by the new Age
The fate of my kin was to be put on eBay in rage
The Green Knight went to Glasgow
I shipped to 'murrica
We were stripped of our paint to sell for slightly more
Lost my shield, and my unit was sent to Australia
But I won't lose this lead test
I will wave your colors with pride
So paint me silver like a cared-for blade
Paint me with varnish so I don't fade
Hail my liege, paint me
Paint my standard, paint my heraldry
So our foe across the table can see
Hail my liege, paint me
He tried the four pages of Age rules
But without points it was just a joke
The game is for fools
So like the other old school fans he jumped ship
To that Malifaux, and X-Wing
And sold us all with no small amount of salt
So to you my liege I come first class
With a silent cry of Deus Vult
In a padded envelope
And in my heart I sing
So paint me silver like a cared-for blade
Paint me with varnish so I don't fade
Hail my liege, paint me
Paint my standard, paint my heraldry
So our foe across the table can see
Hail my liege, paint me
>>46378377
Ironic, isn't it?
In their haste to stop ripoffs, they increase demand enormously, making those same ripoffs more profitable.
>>46378258
Yvresse.
How does the general feel about the new W:TW campaign spotlight?
The Vampires and Dwarves for an alliance in it. Is there any precedence for it in the fluff? Is such a thing even possible...yes it is
>>46378157
Odd how the one really unique thing GW has isn't getting focused on.
>>46379484
No really. If I'm a 3rd party I want my minis to be used for as many things as possible. I want a nice generic fantasy line.
>>46379234
Neferata made undead Dwarfs the second she got to the Old World. Does that count?
>>46379558
Nah, proxy market is big.
You want others to have a use for things, but how many non-40k people are buying female Tau torsos and not-Lorgar for example?
What's Warhams general working on anyway?
>>46380346
The same thing we do every thread, Warlord Peenkee.
Find proxies, badmouth GW and Age, and talk about Warhammer vidya.
>>46380518
All in all, it's a pretty good life.
>>46377943
>I'd be tempted to pick up some Sisters of the Thorn before they vanish
It astounds me that people actually say shit like this when the models in question have received new rules. They're a relatively new kit too so they aren't going to get replaced anytime soon.
On the other hand though I probably really shouldn't be surprised since the GW fanbase has always been filled with people who panic unnecessarily and don't look at the facts in from of them.
Of course I expect someone to bring up the Necrosphinx/Warsphinx in response to my last point, conveniently forgetting how it doesn't fit in with the VC range at all.
>>46378623
GW has never given a damn about ripoffs who don't do stupid shit.
>>46380346
I just separated my extra plague crew from my furnace and made some censer bearers, i'm thinking about making the 3rd one as a Plague Banner bearer. Any ideas for a Plague Banner?
>>46382232
>On the other hand though I probably really shouldn't be surprised since the GW fanbase has always been filled with people who panic unnecessarily and don't look at the facts in from of them.
>Of course I expect someone to bring up the Necrosphinx/Warsphinx in response to my last point, conveniently forgetting how it doesn't fit in with the VC range at all.
No, I'd bring up the entire Bretonnian range being sold out forever within an hour and the new models like the Lothern Sea Guard which had no reason to be squatted at all and came completely out of the blue.
GW can't be trusted anymore. Buying the models you like now is like ripping off a band-aid. Painful and a little sickening, but once done you'll never think of it again and will toss that shit in the bin where it belongs.
Always check the secondary market before buying GW though. Bartertown, eBay, Amazon.
>>46382521
>No, I'd bring up the entire Bretonnian range being sold out forever within an hour
Mostly old range and no real reason to keep them in stock when the Empire exists.
The Lothern Sea Guard likely got squatted because GW couldn't really find a use for them since HE have been broken up into mini factions in AoS. Basically Caledor, Saphery, Chrace, and Phoenix Guard with the Skycutter models and Shadow Warriors being lumped into a scout faction and the Sisters of Avelorn being transferred over to Wood Elves.
If something is currently available for sale on GW's website and isn't Finecast or old as fuck plastic there is a pretty damn good chance it isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
>>46382467
A great big drippyskull
A cage full of plague-riddled rats, with a convenient hatch and lever system to dump them on the enemy.
The unit's last Champion, legs too withered to support him, shrieking blasphemous encouragements from the pole he's lashed to.
>>46383264
Actually i love all of these ideas especially the crucified rotted husk of an old champ
![IMAG0622[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3bbuAyS.jpg "IMAG0622[1].jpg")
Goddamn the dwarf metals are nice.
It really upsets me that they've been replaced by all these very caddy kits like the firedrakes and the fyreslayers.
I think the 1995-2005 era was the peak of gw's modeling ability.
>>46370407
Ready and willing to write the article on Total Warhammer when it comes out, if you need me.
>>46382801
>Mostly old range and no real reason to keep them in stock when the Empire exists.
No real reason to keep Warriors in stock when Daemons exist.
Most of Empire was squatted too though.
>The Lothern Sea Guard likely got squatted because GW couldn't really find a use for them since HE have been broken up into mini factions in AoS.
Yet they kept the Lothern Skycutter and Lothern Sea Helm because...reasons!
GW cannot be trusted. Buy what you want now, never look back.
>tfw there are dozens of miniature companies with websites so shitty and innavigable I can't even browse them
>tfw probably missing out on some really nice minis because of it
Just hire a website designer or take like a week to figure it out pls.
>>46384644
>No real reason to keep Warriors in stock when Daemons exist.
Yeah, because both of those armies are historically influenced humans.
>Yet they kept the Lothern Skycutter and Lothern Sea Helm because...reasons!
Because they can fly and that fits the scout theme GW was going for in one of the factions.
>>46382801
I guarantee you all pre end times shit will be squatted before three years are out
Is Age of Sigman not welcome? I'm a new player with a few questions.
>>46385763
AoS has it's own general.
If you want to be new to WHFB, I doubt anybody's got anything against new blood, but if you're looking to play AoS this is not your home.
We might talk your ear off with how and why AoS is so bad though.
Any resources that would be recommended for learning about possible colorschemes for fantasy armies, particularly Bretonnia? I'm almost fresh off of 40k, so I don't have much knowledge of the common colors and such.
>>46386976
Each knight rides under his own heraldry but under thier lords banner
Peasants have to wear the lords colours and bear his heraldry
have fun and be inspired, your army should look like a rainbow mounted
>>46386976
Also you may want to look up basic heraldry rules.
The only real one you need to know is that a metal (Or and Argent aka white and yellow) only go on colors (everything else) and vice versa. Basically that means for every heraldic design it must incorporate white or yellow as either the field or charge, but not both.
>>46385763
what sort of questions? list building? balance? AHAHAHA!
>>46384438
of course we need you, we need anyone who's willing to contribute!
>>46385763
The only thing you'll get here is shit talking it.
Let me do that right now.
Age of sigmar is EXCLUSIVELY a collectors game. If you have any interest in a game beyond buying and painting the models and pushing them around pointlessly while chatting with your mates, then it's not what you want to get into. It has no lore worth a damn, no rules worth a damn, and I'd argue the models are pretty overpriced and ugly too. 30 dollars for one humanoid on foot model is absolutely unacceptable
I'd bid you to consider actual fantasy or it's torch bearers, infinity, malifaux, warmahordes, 40k, and X-wing first as all can do whatever it is you want out of age and probably with less limitations at a lower price tag.
>>46388410
lotr is a pretty good game.
just dont buy the overpriced hobbit boxes.
>>46388458
I've only every heard good things about lotr, shame I just can't be bothered with middle earth stuff. Same with x wing, supposed to be a great game but I just can't get into star wars
>>46388468
great, now I want to play Mordheim/LotR hybrid in the ruins of Osgiliath, Fornost or Angmar
*sigh*
>>46387514
Plenty of irl examples that break that rule so just go nuts desu
>>46388768
there is a mordheim version of lotr, its pretty fun.
this thread is so dead even Nagash look at it and said "Too dead for me."
>>46386976
just pick a theme and paint it the way you want
i'm doing an empire army based on the knights of the blazing sun because i've always thought "sol invictus" sounds badass and iwant to see it on all my banners
in practice i'll just look like an averland army with gold-ish looking armor though
>>46389829
The thread is just RPing as the setting. :^)
>>46389844
shut up, Constance
Why isn't the feud between the chaos dwarfs and the dwarfs as intense as the one between the high and dark elves? In fact, you almost never hear about the 2 races fighting each other in the fluff
>>46389966
Cause chaos dwarves never really were popular. They went for a good 20 years completely unsupported before FW revived them.
Would make sense in-universe to write about them, but not for the company when the product line is not supported any longer.
>>46389966
different motivations. Chaos Dwarfs dislike Order Dwarfs, but not to the point of overwhelming hatred, nor do High Chaos Dwarf has claims for the crown of High King of Dwarfs. also Chaos Dwarfs are sorta more successful than Order Dwarfs - latter live in ancient holds they lose one by one, former have built powerful kingdom and advanced technology. Order Dwarfs don't even make good slaves and the races don't border. There's little reason for them to fight, unless they meet.
>>46389966
They live very far away from each other and dorfs view chaos dorfs as a kind of racial shame.
>>46390162
>epic WHRP campaign describing adventures of a party of grudge-driven Dwarfs who venture deep into Zharr-Wossname to kill off Hashut, free their brothers (whether they want it or not), and restore glory to Dwarfdom.
I cast Invocation of Nehek on this thread!
>>46390035
I love chaos dwarfs, but having them be a successful, almost self-sufficient civilisation in the middle of nowhere with no border threats beyond roving orcs or skaven means that Chaos Dwarfs don't really have a reason to fight anybody.
At most they would want a slave expedition, notwithstanding events like throne of Tamurkhan.
Chaos Dwarfs really don't have any major conflicts, the current situation seems to be ideal for them.
>>46389966
Dark Elves are ruled by a claimant to the throne of the High Elves. Chaos Dwarfs are a far away civilization of Dwarfs that got corrupted. There's much more reason for conflict from the former.
>>46391169
How are they self-sufficient, anyways? They live in a barren ashen wasteland that couldn't possibly support intensive farming (and I doubt that farms staffed by greenskin slaves are that productive to begin with), and kickass hats aren't mined from the earth.
How can they sustain any kind of population center, let alone the heavily industrialized fortress-cities which are undoubtably poisoning the land around them with Chaos taint.
>>46391465
Normal dwarfs don't have any farms to speak of in the fluff either. They're almost entirely underground, except in a couple of instances (like Bugmans Brewery).
>>46391465
Warhammer logic falls apart the second you start wondering how everyone is supplied and fed.
>>46391465
Underground farms.
>>46391465
Breeding grounds full of enslaved humans, feed the corpse of their own. Also milk from the same stock.
>>46391498
>>46391504
The regular Dwarves have underground farms and a few dying clans of aboveground herders and farmers, but Stone and Steel goes into how they are not very good at producing anything but the grains they use for brewing. The rest of their food needs are handled by human settlements, because that's a far more efficient way to use their limited Dwarf manpower (Dwarfpower?). And that's with the very abundant farms of the Empire, and the longstanding human-Dwarf alliance keeping them going. Chaos Dwarves are in a worse position, with no friends.
>>46391540
Gross. But farming humans is really inefficient; you couldn't keep a pig population going by feeding them their own, let alone people who are notoriously stringy, take a long time to mature, and are likely to actively try to revolt.
Chaos Dwarves are from the height of actually good Warhammer fluff, someone must have written something about how their society functions or what they eat, even just a blurb in WD, right?
>>46391608
>The rest of their food needs are handled by human settlements
I doubt this. Not only would humans need to be producing nearly twice as much food to supply dwarfs, but then they'd also have to ship it to the dwarf holds. Ain't nobody shipping any sort of food to Karak Eight Peaks, and a number of holds are a very long distance from any major human areas that could possibly supply them.
The only dwarf hold that could logically feed itself when you think about it, is Barak Varr (the dwarf port).
New pleb in the general , can someone explain me in which army you play with Nagash? Don't know if he's good or bad (in base of stats) but , if the Tomb kings hate him and the VC hate him too , well.
>>46391697
>I doubt this
OK? I gave you a source, Merle, but if you're too busy shooting zombies here it is, pg 16 of Stone and Steel. The vast majority of what food the Dwarves produce is grains that are immediately turned into ale. There are some hunters and trappers who get fresh game, and undoubtably some hold still maintain the ancient breeds of underground plants, but even in the past those were supplementary to food grown on the surface. Now there are humans who can grow the food far better than the Dwarves ever could.
Also, they wouldn't need to produce twice as much food, because the Dwarf population is nowhere near twice the population of the Empire. A Dwarf Hold has the same impact as any other city; the surrounding rural communities are built around producing an abundance of food and shipping it there, receiving finished goods in return. Getting food to some of the more distant holds may be difficult, but it can be done with armed escorts from both Men and Dwarves, not to mention the underground highways of the Dwarves that were never fully destroyed or blocked off. There's more than one fluff story of a relief convoy breaking through the siege lines to get food to some hold.
>>46391498
Gotrek and Felix pass through a dwarven underground fungi farm while exploring a fallen dwarf hold
>>46391763
They hate him but they're his bitch in end times lore
A lot of us don't quite consider end times to be canon though
>>46391877
This is from the WHFRP stuff, right?
Cause that's the only place the male to female ration thing comes up afaik.
>>46373839
Those eyes all like
>Why am i here again?
>>46391949
WFRP 1e. AFAIK, they never said anything more on the subject of Dwarf food, so it remains the most definitive and comprehensive look at the system.
>>46389288
What's the name of the adaptation? Sounds like Heaven. You aren't talking about Battle Companies, are you?
>>46389829
>>46389844
>Samefagging this hard.
>>46391763
There were always supporters of his, like Arkhan in the TK army books. And then again he is supposedly very powerful, so could force people into servitude.
But this is entirely not worth discussing, Nagash never became a 16 meter tall skeleton with a pope hat made of skeletons.
>>46391877
>Warhammer RPG
How canon is that? Isn't it made by a company other than GW? There's no mention of it in the official army books.
Also, watch my name no longer be Merle.
>>46391884
I meant traditional above ground farms. I assumed that whatever they were doing for food, it was underground, including underground farms of whatever doesn't need sunlight.
>>46391981
Dunno. I think a lot of that is questionable at best.
Everything about the ogres is flat out wrong for example now, because GW brought out the Ogre Kingdom books.
And the whole 3:1 male female thing would be a huge deal if actually true. So I'm gonna say that's also to be taken with a grain of salt.
The thing about the crops makes sense though.
>>46392029
It's as canon as anything. WFRP 1e was published directly by GW at first, then by their division-rechristened-as-company Flame Publications. Hogshead revived the WFRP 1e line in the 90's, but they were still overseen very closely by GW editors.
>>46392057
But that's just GW's approach to canon. Pic related- They'll rewrite anything to fit whatever they are trying to do now. If it's not rewritten, it still holds up.
>>46391949
Dwarf army book, 5th or 6th edition
>>46386976
Old army books went into color schemes. 8e books too.
Just download all the army books for Bretonnia in the OP.
Skaven, High Elves, and Empire had Heraldry books.
>>46391763
Generally speaking, Nagash has his own army.
The original undead he commanded were Nehekharans loyal to him, and his victims. They're probably entombed in his Black Pyramid.
The Vampires all initially were loyal excluding Neferata, but after Nagash lost they all ran off. The Necrarchs would be the most likely to return first, then Vlad and/or Isabella if Nagash resurrected them and promised them absolute dominion of Sylvania.
Or go with End Times lore, where he became Death magic itself and automatically ruled all Death mages, Necromancers, and undead who didn't side with Chaos over him.
>>46391949
Grudge of Drong brings up how rare females are regarding Helgar. So did a comic series.
>>46392019
Give Nagash a head from the Warsphinx kit and say he just ate a fuckload of Warpstone rather than becoming Death.
What happened to the board layout...
>>46393121
Don't own a calendar, Jacob?
>>46393147I know. I just didn't know if this was part of the joke.
>>46391169
They actually have a pretty good spot in the setting - they're making all sorts of warmachines that everyone else wants, and they can work mostly through armies of hobgoblins and such if they need to do any real fighting. They're like that distant empire that finances the war in some settings.
>>46393824
why don't real world americans ain't got cool hats?
Anyone had any experience with dark elf executioners?
Is a brick of 40 worth using?
>>46394059
Americans traditionally favored labor or foreign things that are interesting in culture.
So they took the hat of the British navy and made it flatter to keep rain and sun off the face better then took the Canadian fur hats popular in France for 1700's fashion for example.
Even the cowboy hat and the fedora (real fedoras, not trilbies) were hats designed for the working man that only became fashionable later.
Don't you want to walk with animals, talk to with the animals, grunt and squeak and murder orcs with the animals?
>>46394903
Don't you want to actually successfully wipe out all Orcs forever?
>>46394943
>lance
>not short axe and bolas/nets
Fucking casuals
>>46394903
No, I'm no savage beast man wannabe
So I want to use some marauder horsemen, and I got the ones from the GW store with ten in.
One unit of 10 or should I make them two units of 5?
>>46395353
Edition? 8th favors big units so 1 of 10 is probably better if you want them to live through combat with anything more competent than a warmachine crew, but they're harassers anyway so you might get away with 2x5 to harry both flanks.
Mantic released new Forces of Nature for pre-orders.
Naiads look pretty boss, but ain't any unit like them in WHFB.
Salamanders make nice lizardmen, I guess.
Centraurs look cool.
Earth Elemental looks like shit.
>>46395475
Is it just me or is that David Bowie Wardancer?
>>46395740
Ziggie Stardancer
>>46395871
Make it so, 9th age. You can use a special character or two.
>>46396564
Speaking of 9th age, anyone else see the April Fools army?
>>46396670
No, what is it?
>>46396783
Honestly, if not for a few obvious jokes (in the spell list, especially) it would look pretty fun...
>>46395567
I like the elemental and centaurs, Salamanders aren't terrible, hate the Naiads.
>>46396670
>>46396840
it's actually pretty cool if you drop the jokes
after Darkest Dungeon I'd start collecting fish army without second thought
Reaper even has minis for them
>>46396840
I'd actually play this. Fuck, I really love the idea of it.
Think they'll leave it, or just keep it as an April Fool's joke?
Also, is this a reference to what I think it is?
>>46396960
I guess so, even though I see two references here. One innocent and one... not.
>>46396929
The tactical applications of Mermaidens and Lying in the Reeds are huge, and I really want to mess with Davy Jones Locker and the lore attribute to drown the world. Refluff a couple of the spells and probably the murlocs (The pirate ship is quirky, but can stay).. Man, somebody should talk the ninth age guys into making Oceanborn permanent.
>>46396985
I really like Dried Sponge item. 20 bonus points to spend on magic items is just awesome.
>>46396985
>rules are officially out, even though they are a joke
>if people like them, they'll try to use them (probably avoiding or refluffing joke units)
>sure, it'll just be casual games but still
>if people use them and they become popular, people will ask on forums
>then 9th Age devs will be able to say "By popular demand we bring you official Oceanborn" with absolutely clear conscience
that's how you add brand new armies to the game
>>46396978
I was thinking the innocent one.
>>46397156
By the way, are we doing tacticas for 9th on 1d4?
>>46397200
I was considering starting them, but wouldn't they be 90% C'n'P from 8th Ed tacticas?
plus, we gotta wait for v1.0 at least
>>46397226
Yeah, but with the combination change of core rules and army tweaks there's enough change to justify it. Come 1.0 they can just be updated.
>>46397156
And it will be glorious.
but there are fishmen in WHFB, right? Fimir or something?
>>46398179
Fimir were kinda swamp-troll-giant monsters. Aquatic, but not so much the merpeople/murlocs/deep ones/innsmouth look that the Oceanborn seem to draw on.
And I'm kinda proud of 9th for reaching beyond the low hanging but possibly shriveled fruit of the likes of Kislev, Fimir, and Halflings. (No offense to fans of the same; it's not really any skin off 9a's back to make Kislev, Fimir, or Halfling rules, but it's really cool to see something new)
>>46398234
Halflings and Kislev are just part of the Empire list though like Forest Goblins, Strigoi, and Lothern.
>>46398399
Kislev at least has had it's own force at one time. It's own lore too. My GW history is foggier on Halflings.
>tfw the first time your death hag, cauldron of blood and witch brick evaporates an entire unit
>>46398429
Halflings and Kislev only really consisted of a few types of models.
Halflings were pretty OP on the tabletop. If they were around today, every competitive Empire list would have them. In battle reports involving Empire the Halflings were always the last mpdels standing or the ones that won the battle. When GW transitioned to modern Warhammer with the release of Vampire Counts the Halflings were quietly dropped.
Kislev was strange. They sort of wanted to treat it like its own army, but it was just Empire without much difference in tabletop performance. They went out as quick as they went in and vanished with Specialist Games.
>>46397178
>human
I doubt it fish poster, don't bull that innsmouth shit with me
>>46398429
that was a supplemental force though. doubt Kislev got much potential for full-blown armybook, unless they go for monster inventing, bear cavalry and other contrived shit like that.
>>46398800
>Halflings were always the last mpdels standing or the ones that won the battle.
>enemies were just too disgusted by little freaks to attack them
>tfw when mindless skeleton is afraid of getting dirty from touching a halfling
it's good halflings were dropped. all non-Tolkien halflings are complete and utter disgusting shit.
>>46398870
GW Halflings are pretty close to Tolkien actually, far more than anything else that isn't Tolkien at any rate.
Its just that if you fall asleep in the Warhamer Shire, there's a chance you'll wind up as sausage for next mornings second breakfast because the fuckers are miniature Ogres.
>>46399066
Tolkein + being inbred disgusting fucks
>>46398870
I disagree
>>46399470
>Says dwarf.
>>46398800
I think Kislev would be a really hard army to accurately do, because there's no real response to missile cavalry. Welfs are tricky enough, imagine them with hueg movement. It'd be interesting to see a bunch of Hussars and Horse Archers running around, with a relatively small number of foot troops, but it'd be very difficult to pull off and not be totally broken (especially when you bring in Ice Magic, if you write up any spell that might slow down an enemy unit or deny them movement in a certain area). Oblast riders one day.
>>46399629
Sorry I can't hear you over my mates, they're playing "toss the Phoenix crown"
>>46399470
Well, yeah.
Tolkien's Halflings are based on the Irish after centuries of British rule living off the land, the Warhammer Halflings are just Irish as they naturally occur without civilizing by a benevolent master.
>>46399665
Kislev saw some real development during the specialist period as part of Warmaster. Go look that up to get the last version of the studio flavour for it.
The faction functioned alright at the warmaster scale. Also, they imported some vintage Russian/Kossack stuff, like portable fortress wagons that they'd circle. I could almost see them being a special choice.
>>46399665
>I think Kislev would be a really hard army to accurately do, because there's no real response to missile cavalry. Welfs are tricky enough, imagine them with hueg movement. It'd be interesting to see a bunch of Hussars and Horse Archers running around, with a relatively small number of foot troops, but it'd be very difficult to pull off and not be totally broken (especially when you bring in Ice Magic, if you write up any spell that might slow down an enemy unit or deny them movement in a certain area). Oblast riders one day.
So...basically High Elves with an Ellyrion Reaver core and mounted Archmage.
>>46399898
"Dwarf, I was just passing through the area and saw your backdoor had a ten thousand year old infestation of Goblins built up. I cleared it out for you. You're welcome."
>>46399975
Elf, I noticed you're in the middle of a 10000 year old civil war over who gets to wear the crown we own.
Elf I noticed you can barely take care of yourselves and need humans to protect your trees for you
Elf I noticed your alcohol is thin as goblin piss and smells like it too
Get bent twiggy
>>46400197
What kind of alcohol is common in the Warhammer World? I'm sure there's ale and beer and suchlike, but anything that specific factions or races enjoy more than others? Anything exotic?
>>46399975
>So...basically High Elves with an Ellyrion Reaver core and mounted Archmage.
Yeah, but there's approximately 6 Elves in that army. Kislev would need to have large numbers to really fit with their theme and general human nature.
>>46400266
Night goblin fanatics are powered by fermented psychedelic mushroom brew aren't they
There's skavenbrew as well
Question: Are trolls related to greenskins or are they just able to hang with them?
>>46400197
>Elf I noticed you can barely take care of yourselves and need humans to protect your trees for you
>In the same thread where we note that the Dwarfs can not into feeding themselves and need the humans to take care of their food for them.
>>46400197
1) We made a new crown.
2) Those are some retards that ran into the woods rather than fight for the motherland. We kind of forgot they existed.
3) That's why we're importing yours. Must be nice for you to have a growing economy again.
ok guys just impulse bought an army of globlins, ive never played warhammer fantasy though only 40k.
120 nightgoblins with spears and three shamans/banners/musicians and stuff 6 fanatics
10 goblin warriors (what do I do with these??? will I need more to have any use?)
20 goblin spider riders
a troll
27 arrow boys
one lobba, one doom diver, one spear chucka
20 orc "warriors" and a musician, im not sure what these guys actually are, the models look old and are all exactly the same, an orc in chainmail with heavy armor
>>46400394
Warbosses are notoriously non-selective about what goes into their armies.
>>46400423
Asur top elves nigga
Fuck off tree faggots and Malekith Husbandoers
>>46400369
So drop the points from 17 to 15 and drop their Leadership, Initiative, and Weapon Skill to 5's.
Still just Reavers.
>>46400394
Trolls are technically Chaos-mutated something. Like the White Lions of Chrace, the literal white magical lions rather than the Elves calling themselves White Lions.
>>46400407
But that's at least an honest alliance, based on mutual respect and for mutual benefit. Elves are snotty jerks who could be honest and benefit both parties, but they prefer lies and terror to the detriment of everyone involved.
>>46400423
>get symbol of authority and nation taken my enemy
W-we made a new one guys
>>46400440
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer/Tactics/8th_Edition/Orcs_%26_Goblins
>>46400508
Yeah, but at least when you lay with an elf you can hold your head up with pride in the morning.
>>46400508
Anyone know if this model is from something or an original sculpt? I know the base is from the IoB mage but that's about it
>>46400559
What matters is we have a Phoenix Crown at all.Because its more than Malekith has.
>>46400567
damn are night goblins cheese? I specifically bought them because I thought they were hipster tier
>>46392019
>never became a giant
He absolutly became a giant. Nagash grew after eating warpstone. He was a giant when Alcaddizar beat him and he was a giant when Sigmar destroyed him. Nagash has spent more time as a giant lich then as a regular sized person.
>>46400583
>Implying an elf would fuck you
>Implying that an elf wouldn't murder you from the bushes with an arrow for having the temerity to come within 100 meters of her secret hiding place that you didn't even know existed, you were just gathering acorns to feed your starving children
>Forgetting that the only elf who does sleep with humans is the most high-maintenance bitch of all time, and a slut to boot
>>46400394
They just get along well.
>>46400440
Take a photo for us and we'll tell you what they are.
>>46400382
On concept sketches the drugging mushrooms grew directly on their heads
>>46400687
Only if you spam silly numbers of fanatics really
Did you not pick up any hqs? Also they sound like the old monopose plastic black orcs.
>>46400710
>Assuming it was voluntary
>Assuming the elf was female
All elves are feminine enough that they're all eligible receivers.
>>46400687
Standard Orcs are redshirts. Who cares about 'em.
Black Orcs are elite bastards, not very Orky though. Too straight-laced.
Savage Orcs are a genuine threat, almost no humor. Straight up carnage machines.
Forest Goblins are interesting, more for fluff players and conversion maniacs because they're just okay.
Night Goblins are as Orky as Fantasy gets. But with magic rather than trch. They're crazy, funny, and the biggest fun on the tabletop.
Night Gobbos themselves are not OP. Good, but not OP.
But Fanatics? OP as fuck if used right. Packing a list full of them is INSANE. We're talking "That escalated quickly" here.
You have to intentionally cheese though, and it backfires a lot. OnG are mid tier strength.
>>46400588
This is a kitbash
Body, hand, and probably feet are from current shadow warrior box
Head comes from Lothern Skycutter
The sword is the one from the loremaster
A guy on ulthuan dot net did it, you might look into it maybe there are wip shots
>>46400710
Teclis shagged human twins, and recalls them fondly. Morathi has fucked humans, or at least she did when she was still Slaanesh's high priestess.
High Elves will fuck humans gladly, Dark Elves may rape and murder them, Woodies are more likely to stick a flute up their ass and play a nature song to seduce a barn owl.
>>46400959
"What we have is special, dad! She gets me. Unlike you and mom!"
>>46389235
I don't know who you are or where you got that webm, but that's hilarious.
>tzeentchian oceanborn slowly innsmouthing it up in tiliea and estalia
I'd play it. The southern old world dosen't really worry about the northern barbarians, so they ought to have some sort of chaos threat
>>46402116
I like it without Chaos there, tbqh. It reminds you that Chaos is a threat spreading from the rifts at the poles, not the endemic problem of every being on the planet. The Tileans have their hands full with the ratmen, the Arabyans, and each other.
>>46402843
So what are their origins then?
I was thinking of them as mostly a beastmen offshoot. Maybe then they could be more of eastern faction then? Along with cathay and ind oceanborn could be a member of the factions added by some sort of !asia supplement
