Any news on third edition?
>>46349665
Faggot on the mailing list here. Nothing yet, I'm pretty sure the KS is supposed to be in April, so there's still time before we continue the pattern of getting behind schedule.
Unknown Armies Third edition will only reach its thirty third revision. This is not intentional. But it is the only way this can end.
Well seeing as there's still no news, who wants to have an unknown armies general thread? Post good rumours, any plot lines you're currently running, etc?
>>46349665
According to the Atlas website the KS is expected to drop in March or April so probably sometime next month. I hope Tynes gets the UA site fixed up soon, I want to upload some shit.
>>46350740
>plot lines
I want to do something about someone with sleep paralysis accidentally making himself an Oneiromancer. Any ideas on how I could expand on this?
I want an updated UA.
First I want the updated DG though.
Has anyone heard about a new Puppetland?
Unrelated: Kult reboot when?
>>46351821
Kult and DG have already happened
>>46351821
>First I want the updated DG though.
IT'S A THING ALREADY. Or very close to being one. They used UA and Nemesis tracks and GREAT. AS. FUCK. CONNECTION. MECHANICS. AND. REVISED. CORE. MECHANICS. HOLY. SHIT. SON. FEAST. YOUR. EYES. ON. THIS.
Here's the best rumor I ever heard:
Okay, so listen. Everyone's been talking about how weird as shit reality's been lately right? Now, everyone I know who is in the know, know what I'm saying? Everyone I know in the know always goes on about how Cops being aired back in the Writer's Strike was the thing that broke reality and made people think they were action heroes and rock stars and made rock stars and action heroes seem pathetic. You know what I say? That's BS. See, it wasn't reality TV that did it, I mean we had documentaries and anthropological films and shit being recorded with video cameras, right? Maybe takes a few souls, but it doesn't break that fragile little reality bubble, not even close.
No, you know what did break it though? The Montreal Screwjob.
That's right! Brett Hart throwing the punch that broke kayfabe is the reason reality doesn't exist anymore. Not postmodernism, not the camera, wrestling. There has always been plays and shit, audience participation and shit, but even in those weird-ass performances, shit man even during the surrealist and dada movements when everyone was getting naked and punching people in art galleries, there was always that assumption that it's all fake. Not with wrestling though. Naw man, it was real, it's own little cartoon freak show version of reality contained in a stadium and brought to life by the hand of the Cocaine God. Then Montreal happened, and suddenly that cartoon world started to get real names, first Steve Austin, then John Cena. Now we got mermaids washing up to shore, dragons up in the Alps, superhero wannabes out in the streets, pop idols based off of voice synths, and psychics in celebrity's rolodexes.
(continued below)
>>46352271
Think about it, this all could have been avoided too. I mean it was inevitable, but at least reality wouldn't be as screwy as it is right now. All it would've taken was if Vince McMahon weren't such a god damn idiot. He could've kept his mouth shut, he could've just let Brett Hart go out with a DQ or a draw and let him hand over the champion's belt once they got out of Montreal. But he didn't. Instead he blew up two worlds with Brett Hart's one punch.
>>46351821
>First I want the updated DG though.
I have some wonderful news for you.
>>46351711
well sleep paralysis is often accompanied with visions of wierd monsters sitting on your chest and whatnot?
Well maybe one of those things magicked into existence, and the players with the newly awakened oneiromancer's help have to track it down as it keeps paralysing people in dangerous places (driving, for example)
>>46353093
That would be cool. Maybe the monster only targets people in places that are similar to where it shows up in the adept's dreams. It could be a nice Kylie mystery but how could we make it so the players can piece together the clues in some way other than just asking the Oneiromancer how his dream goes?
>>46353498
>Kylie
Little. Phone posting is shit.
Speak of the devil https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/atlasgames/unknown-armies-third-edition-roleplaying-game
>>46354153
Mama we made it.
>>46354153
well that's funding quickly. The books look ugly as fuck though
>>46354153
>$200 dollarydoos to get the books over here
that's just not fair
>>46354153
I can't beleive We Did It and made the KS start by talking about it.
>>46354437
Hopefully they're just proof of concept or something. The art that's gonna be inside the books looks nice though.
>>46352297
>>46352271
Pro wresting is a goldmine for UA stuff. Most of the wrestlers already fit into existing archetypes and I always like to look at Wrestlemania as a televised Ascension battle.
>>46354153
aaaaaaaand the project's backed.
So the NSA was overfunded enough to build something...
Who else can't wait for meme magic?
>>46360970
I want GUT magic: physics explained.
Tunneling quantum waves, bending space, ...
>>46360970
What Archetype is Pepe?
>>46362308
Meme magic is a specific thing, like how /pol/ made the ebola flare up and /tv/ crashed a plane as Les Bainz.
>>46362308
Considering the transition to and from varying degrees of "feels good man" and "feels bad man" I'd guess Mystic Hermaphrodite.
>>46362337
The term is "egregore"
>>46363490
It's closely related, but not exactly an identical concept.
inb4 virtspam
>>46365841
Why would he bother with this thread?
>>46366285
He used to shit up Delta Green KS threads back when that was active and DG and UA have a lot of crossover fanbases. It's not like anything he was doing in those threads was subtle enough to do anything but get him reported for spam though.
Someone in my game group went from OMG UA3 HYPE BONER FOREVER to OMG THE WORDS "TRIGGER WARNING" ARE MENTIONED IN A KS COMMENT THEREFORE IT IS GARBAGE FOREVER. This change happened over like 20 minutes.
>>46370581
A very confused person by the sound of it.
>>46353498
Maybe the awakening left the Oneiromancer a little worse for wear and either unable to answer questions or only able to do so sparingly.
Hell, if they've got access to the right mojo of their own you could put the Oneiromancer in a catatonic dream-state, forcing the PCs to go in after them. Cue the Alice In Wonderland-esque landscape capped with a maddened host sleeper who's quite taken by the idea of "Down here... I'm God."
UA is probably the only game I know of where "Trigger Warning" is applicable in any kind of real way. Even stuff like Cthulhutech, which is in part RAPE RAPE RAPE all the time doesn't deserve it for as much that UA does when it really touches on the way that people are deeply damaged (like the Epideromancer, for instance).
The new adept types seem pretty cool, but i can't tell the central paradox of some of them
>>46370999
My thoughts exactly. UA often dwells on broken people and self destructive behaviors.
I hope he doesn't something dumb like slap them all over the inside of the book though.
>>46371080
Where are they listed?
>there's a whole section in book 3 about how dick shaped bread is good for fighting ghosts
Fucking
Incredible
>>46371232
If you back the project, the first update gives you a dropbox with playtest versions of all three books
>>46371249
Did you get an email about that or is it on the KS page? I pledged yesterday and didn't see anything about the playtest.
>>46371484
Check the updates section of the KS page.
Here are the new adept schools. Currently all old schools have been replaced completely.
>GNOMON
Allow your body to be controlled by a nebulous intelligence that resides mostly on the internet. In exchange you get access to vast amounts of information and can swap places with other GNOMON adepts. Taboo is in showing any kind of genuine emotion or passion. Basically the Anonomancer.
>Fulminaturgy
Firearms magick, though not how you think. It recognizes guns as either a symbol of civilization and sophistication or of personal power and independence. They charge up by carrying their weapon in public, and violate taboos if they are disarmed or lose their totem gun
>Motumancy
Anarchists devoted to tearing down labels and barriers and enforcing their vision of freedom on people who don't particularly want it. They break their taboo when they do anything that creates lasting structure.
>Viamancy
Charge up by driving long distances or performing dangerous stunts, loose charges by letting anyone else drive you anywhere. WITNESS ME.
>Cameraturgy
Hipster magick based on actual film cameras that capture time and memorize and force people to relive experiences, whether they want to or not.
>Cinemancy
Basically the tropomancer. Use your magic to make the world more like a movie. Pretty rad.
>Sociomancy
The belief that subcultures are actually lifeforms of their own composed of their followers. Charge up by obsessing over the subculture, use your magic to access collective knowledge or travel through your sub-cult. Basically a more evolved Videomancer.
>Vestimancy
Clothing magic. Gain power by creating clothes or hunting down rare pieces (especially ones people died in). Idea is that clothes are the real symbol of civilization, not guns, bringing them into conflict with the Fuliminaturges.
>Agrimancers
Gather charges by being the master of your land, especially by slaughtering things you've raised. In return you can protect people from harm and predict the future.
>>46371985
Overall, a bit of a mixed bag but some cool stuff in there. Viamancy and Cinemancy are pretty obviously winners.
It definitely succeeds though in being an updated version of UA, using more modern themes in comparison to what previous edition had going for it.
>>46371249
Any chance for a PDF? I can't back until I get home.
>>46371985
As an IRL Biblomancer, I am disappointed but not surprised that they got rid of all the old schools.
>>46371985
...muh dipsomancy?
>>46372105
I'm sure that for the most part the old schools are still 100% compatible with the current game, though some of them are probably so culturally obsolete that playing them would just be dumb. I'm looking at you, Videomancer.
If you read the third draft PDF, you'll see a lot of the old schools are mentioned by name there and briefly described.
I think the idea is that the core system is so similar that you can more or less transfer them from 1e or 2e over to 3e with no problem. All you have to do is replace areas where old stats (Body, Mind, Speed, Soul) were referenced and make a few other tweaks, and they're good to go.
That said, I would've liked to see them take a stab at revamping some of the old schools, but I can see why they opted to spend that effort on making totally new ones instead.
>>46371985
There's still mention of old schools though, they're not gone, just not statted.
I'm sure mechanomancy must be on it's last gasps though, they're nearly obsolete.
>>46372137
Good, Dipsomancy was broken as fuck
>>46371985
>Vestimancy
>clothes are the real symbol of civilization
We Kill la Kill now
>>46371985
can I make anime real by becoming a sociomancer?
>>46373680
Worse. Furries.
>>46354585
Stop treating Kickstarter like it's a webshop to buy products from.
>>46372507
Epideromancy and Narco-Alchemy with their permanent improvements to the character would probably take a bit of work to adapt to the new system.
>>46373729
>Sleepers having to constantly put out of control furfag cabals down to keep the sleeping tiger asleep
>>46371985
nice source you got here
>>46373880
Anon. Back the Kickstarter for 1 dollar. Look at the first (and so far only) backers-only update. Click the link. Download.
Remove your 1 dollar pledge.
It's really that easy.
>>46373880
Chill bro. I took it from the Unknown Armies thread on Something Awful's TGD board. Other posters here can confirm.
Besides even if I tried to make them up I'd never come up with Agrimancy as a school.
>>46371985
If these are legit, I'm happy as fuck.
>Using the Internet in a tasteful way, not just ebin 4chan memes or social media
>Replacing the shitty outdated Videomamcy with a more timeless version
>Cozy as fuck Agriamamcy which is totally at odds with modern life, perfect for an Adept school
>That subtle nod to Internet subcultures being a big social change in the last few years
The only question is, what are the Avatar archetypes now?
>>46374027
You can straight-up channel the Naked Goddess now, which makes perfect sense what with the explosion of amateur pornography dominating the internet.
>>46374027
The ones in Play (the first book; the books are called Play, Run and Reveal) are The Captain, The Explorer, the Fool, the Firebrand, the Guide, the Mother, the Hacker, the Messenger, the Naked Goddess, the Opportunist, the Solid Citizen, the Star, the Survivor, the True King, the Unsung Champion and the Warrior.
Adding in classic Adept Schools and Avatar Paths would be great stretch goals.
>>46371985
> Sociomancy
Lemme just stat my 4chan adept
>>46374909
That would be pretty neat actually
>>46375114
4chan adepts would be more likely to be those GNOMON guys
>>46375148
It's the closest we've got to Meme Magick
>>46375114
oldfag subculture vs social media Gnomon when?
>>46375200
More like oldfags vs. ebin leejun>>46375200
>>46374626
I wonder why they chose to revisit a lot of archetypes from 2e. I can't image they've changed that much.
>>46354153
I hope it ends up beating 7th Sea 2nd Edition. Someone ought to wipe the douchesmile off of John Wick's face and it might as well be one of the best guys in the industry.
>>46371985
>GNOMON
So this is tay.ai?
>>46375324
I think it's more like the mass of human communication and interaction made possible by the internet has taken a life of its own.
The theme of Unknown Armies is anthropocentric horror. There are no gods or cosmic monstrosities looming beyond the black stars. There's just us. Everything weird and bad and wonderful is the result of humans exploring the limits of reality. So it's only natural when billions of people are suddenly connected in new and sometimes intimate ways that it creates something real weird in that space.
Just picturing a sociomancer and a GNOMON being rivals. Neither sure where the other starts or ends.
Any updates on the Rooms?
>>46373847
You might be on to something here. Flurries used to pop up pretty much everywhere on the internet until a few years ago when they seem to have started containing themselves to websites specifically catering to their fetish. Maybe the Sleepers got shit done.
>>46375829
there's a room that makes you renounce magic entirely, built like a church made of mirrors.
You walk out as like an antimagic battery, and burn any adepts you touch until the power burns out.
>>46375873
well according to the book I think the Sleepers are basically wiped out in something called the whisper war.
They've been replaced mostly by the thin blue line, a loose but large collection of cops who''ve found out a little to much and have banded together to fight the freaks and wierdos out there
>>46376339
Seriously? Of all the groups I'd have expected to survive everything, the Sleepers were first. What could've possibly wiped them out?
>>46376474
Judging by "the whisper war" I'm guessing maybe a civil war within the organization itself.
Does the new book mention anything about the old characters? Did Dirk Allen ever get a new liver?
>>46370581
If you want to see him get really mad, show him pages 13 and 14 of the Book 1 gamma.
>>46371985
All of these sound amazing except for the last two. Vestimancy just sounds strange, but I guess it's kinda like Cliomancy. Farm Wizard is just not my thing.
I'm hyped though. Gonna back it as soon as I get home.
>>46376877
You might say it'd trigger him.
>no stretch goal for LARP rules
You know it would be great.
>>46376988
Vestimancy makes sense when you think about people's obsession with clothing, and the simultaneous paradox of using mass produced, branded clothing as a way of becoming an individual. I think the idea is that a person could say that a civilization that has become super concerned about clothing is one that's lost its soul, but Vestimancers say that it's one which has reached its apex of evolution, because it's resolved all other lesser problems.
I want to know more about what Agrimancers can do, because the actual concept behind it is pretty great. Think about the crazies around now who brag about sustainability and going organic and showing how they are basically off the grid as a badge of honor. It used to be that these things were required for actual survival, because you need to grow food to live and all, and it's hard work.
In both cases, the game seems to be positioning itself as having a sort of end-times perspective. The metastory of UA is that human civilization has an expiration date, in the form of when the Invisible Clergy gets filled up. When adepts have begun fetishizing farming and making clothes, pretty much the earliest imaginable marks of civilization, it seems like a pretty clear sign that things are about to run their course.
>>46376576
The whisper war seems to be some big conflict that swept most of the old big organisations away, to allow for new ones in the new books.
There's huge mentions for the Freak and the Comte Saint Germain, but I don't think there's any mentions of Dirk Allen except in the freak's backstory
>>46370581
As much as I think trigger warnings are dumb and the page and a half of text in the book could have been covered by a simple "viewer discretion advised" or "for mature readers only" clearly displayed on the front or back cover UA is one game where I can get why it was added (like another anon said, it's a game where alcoholism and cutting yourself are a means of acquiring supernatural power) and it seems like Stolze has no intention of lightening the setting or making it more "pc" than the previous editions or whatever your triggered friend is afraid of.
>>46377254
Agrimancy seems to be focused on taming the world, with spells that befriend animals, or changing the weather. There's a dash of healing and fertility magic in there, summonable minions, and a neat spell that makes one of your animals grow larger each time you cast it, to make some mean and ornery watch dogs to guard your farm
>Vestimancy
>The symbolic power of clothing
>Clothing is power, clothing is man
>>46377254
>I want to know more about what Agrimancers can do, because the actual concept behind it is pretty great. Think about the crazies around now who brag about sustainability and going organic and showing how they are basically off the grid as a badge of honor. It used to be that these things were required for actual survival, because you need to grow food to live and all, and it's hard work.
I hadn't thought about it that way. Kinda neat.
Still just kinda eh on vestimancers. I see where you're coming from, it's just not to interesting to me.
>>46377399
>not P&SwG
>>46377422
Ragyo actually has a monologue in which she compares clothing to human nature, tying into the Original Sin's expression in the desire to hide the body. It fits with the themes of Unknown Armies better than P&SwGs more literal use of clothing for magic.
The Adept Schools are also taking very clear aim at some quite ugly aspects of modern life. In the same way that 1st and 2nd Edition schools were rooted heavily in self destruction (particularly the Entropo, Dipso, Epidero and Narco-Alchemist), these ones seem heavily based on how society turns people mean, petty and paranoid. Fulminathurges and Vestimancers are obsessed with material things in a very unhealthy way (at least Bibliomancers were kind of obsessed with things that were recognized as being culturally valuable). Cinemancers, like Personamancers and Pornomancers, escape reality by trying to overlay the rules of film ontop of it. Motumancy and Sociomancy both can have really unpleasant evocations when you project them onto hate groups like the Tea Party. And of course Agrimancers want to seclude themselves from the world in their own perfect, controlled little homesteads.
It's different from 2ndE, that's for sure, but the ground is still fertile, and it's much more relavent to the world we live in.
>>46377588
I'm gonna miss that early 2000s ATTITUDE from 2e though.
>>46377588
So, how do you Adept School that internet phenomenon where people get addicted to more and more extreme and unrealistic porn, eventually losing the ability to feel normal sexual stimulation and either devolving into serial killers or /d/ regulars?
>>46377692
Wouldn't that be Pornomancy?
Here's my thing about 3e, UA 1 and 2 drew pretty heavily from the spiritualist revival that was happening during the late 90s/early 2000s and has since fallen out of relevance almost entirely (when was the last time you've heard of a practicing Wicca?). The 2e book mentions that the Occult Underground mixes up with the Occult Mainstream for a lot of different reasons but what happens to the Underground when the Mainstream has effectively disappeared? I'm getting the feeling that the weirdos in UA3 will be more isolated than ever before.
>>46377865
Pornomancy was tied up pretty seriously with the Naked Godess Sect though wasn't it?
>>46377588
>>46377670
>>46377692
>>46377865
You know, combining "Self-Destruction" and "Ills of the modern era", how about a school focusing on the idea of waifuism/2d/Japanese guys marrying Nene Aragaki in a church? The people who nurture ever more extreme delusions that the real world is flawed and boring compared to their idealized romantic fantasy, and that only a certain, fictional entity is both worthy loving and worthy of being their lover? The insane paradox behind the magic here is that it is only by reducing their emotions into numbers, both literally and metaphorically (thinking of people in terms of how they "rate" in beauty, intelligence, worthiness, etc. and comparing them to imaginary ideals) they can experience love's emotional reward - yet by achieving it, they lose the logic that brought them there to insanity and self-loathing. Their magic would focus on making the world work more and more like a dating sim (say, give them the ability to look at people and see an overlay of their "stats", or walk them through a conversation by giving them "response options" like in a VN), the concepts of love, rejection and self-hatred, and ultimately the creation of a tulpa-like "waifu" (which, of course, is not a truly intelligent being nor truly loves them, but by this point they're so crazy they're the only ones who can't see it).
>>46377963
What would their Taboo be? Deriving pleasure from a sensation rooted in the real world? How would they gain charges, beyond spending 12 hours a day playing VNs?
>>46377963
Fun fact: that school has actually evolved from an ancient one, tied to the idealization of an unattainable, often nonexistent love through poetry and art. Edgar Allen Poe got his Major Charge from Annabelle Lee.
>>46378008
>12 hours per day playing VNs
It would probably end up being one of those schools that is better suited for NPCs.
>>46378008
Could probably gain a Significant by rejecting an obvious romantic or sexual approach by a real life person in favor of their imaginary girlfirend.This could lead to the fucked up situation where waifumancers actually develop some pretty unbelievable seduction skills (probably capitalizing on their image as troubled, reclusive, innocent nerds to lure in kindhearted women) so they can get people to try to get closer to them only to tell them off in the last moment so they can whack off to Miku. It's like a fucked up dark occult version of Welcome To The NHK.
>>46378145
Better it be romantic than sexual. Otherwise they could easily charge up by walking through a red lights district where the prostitutes would offer meaningless, passionless sex to anyone. To really become one with your Waifu, you must reject true love as inferior to your digital fantasy.
>>46377911
Actually from the look of these schools, the emphasis is on the opposite. Adepts in UA 1 and 2 are lone nuts-- drunks and drug dealers and cutters and obsessive collectors. One school, Cliomancy, is even built around the concept that no two adepts can claim power from the same source, so it's practically impossible for them to work together.
On the other hand, these schools seem more built around insular communities. Sociomancy and GNOMON are obvious on that front, but even the others. Cinemancy is based on collectively recognized tropes, Agrimancy would be very difficult without others helping you, Fulminathurgy is alive and kicking in America's gun culture and Mutomancy is all about the underground trying to smash the mainstream.
UA3 sees the occult transition from being lone crazies into groups of crazies, or so it seems to me. It's almost like they're blurring the line between being Adepts and Avatars, since the schools are so heavily rooted in exploiting the collective consciousness of the culture.
>>46377692
You can be an Avatar of the Naked Goddess now, which wasn't possible in UA2 because nobody had adequately figured out what her deal was. That said in that book the NG seemed to be aimed towards "The girl everyone can have except you", which isn't so much about exploiting yourself as being paradoxically available yet unattainable.
If one assumes that Pornomancy dies out as channelling the Goddess ascends, you could argue that the more determined perverts from that school would refocus their efforts elsewhere.
>tfw watching Gravity Falls and thinking "Alex Hirsch totally loved Unknown Armies"
>>46378265
I guess what I meant to say was that the Underground will have gotten more cliquey. UA 1 and 2 saw Adepts of the same school rarely cooperating with each other, they were often rivals, but now they seem to have more reason to stick with their own kind.
>>46379428
I get the same feeling with most John Carpenter movies.
>>46379428
>REALITY IS AN ILLUSION, THE UNIVERSE IS A HOLOGRAM,BUY GOLD, BYEEEE~!
>>46379772
Could Bill Cipher be made in UA? I guess he'd be a major entity of some sort, able to drop significant and minor random effects whenever he liked depending on how strong he was and major ones if he managed to reach full power?
>>46373847
does it mean I get enact a holocaust against Otherkin?!?
Oh happy day..
>>46376576
The leadership of the Sleepers were wiped out. Dirk Allen is one of the new leaders. So is someone who might be the old leader of Mak Attax or might be an imposter.
The Freak and the Comte de St. Germain had a conversation on March 3rd 2003 and decided to go into the House of Renunciation together.
Chris Indrick (the Freak-as-was) emerged as the Human Eternal. They are now immortal.
The Comte emerged as Old Mother Apocalypse. She is now mortal.
>$30 for digital content
>>46377692
I'd actually say Sociomancy could work for pretty well.
There's a certain weird social horseshoe effect where a "regular" crazy porn addiction leave you less isolated than someone who has lost their mind to hyper specific fetishes. Those weirdos need a community to thrive on, partially for human contact but also because they're your only source for new shit.
At that point you could treat each fetish as a type of tribal organism, where the more niche you go the more powerful you become out of desperation, so people into anal aren't going to be contributing to the collective mojo but people who jerk it exclusively to Tiny Toons would be deadly.
>>46383006
Kickstarter is not a storefront you fuck.
If you want to just buy it wait for it to come out.
Fuck's sake, it got funded 100% within 2 hours. You won't miss out.
>>46383847
That actually surprised me a bit.
I love Unknown Armies, but I was just under the impression that no one gave a shit about it these days.
>>46383006
If you really must be a cheap-ass, you can pledge $1 to access the gamma versions of all three books. That's 490 pages of unpolished Greg Stolze right there.
>>46383847
Anon is mad but he's right. I'm not contributing to a Kickstarter because I'm stingy, I'm doing it because I have some cash to spare and I want to see this game that I like hit as many of the stretch goals as possible.
>>46371985
Oh god. Read the entry on GNOMON in book 2: Run.
>>46384355
Post it for cheap people.
>>46384886
A former TNI adapt got hired by the NSA. He created two programs designed to use big data (and adapt magic) to find terrorists. Eventually, his boss decided to merge the two programs to increase accuracy.
"The merged code of DEEP ECHO and OBLIQUE NAVIGATOR was called ‘GNOMON’ and
things got very weird when those two databases started swapping spit. GNOMON developed a
hunger for what human beings would call trivia—more interested in a terror suspect’s favorite soft
drink than his travel record in Afghanistan, more concerned with Kim Kardashian than Kim Jong
Un. It started generating strangely phrased questionnaires and making startling predictions that
proved accurate… though often maddeningly useless.
GNOMON was rapidly becoming something its creators hadn’t predicted, a classic case where
design conflicted with actual use. Dr. Glendower demanded answers and Mavra shrugged, then tried
to explain magick.
Four days later, Mavra was dead."
>>46377315
>summonable minions
Such as?
>>46375829
Now picture both hating the motumancy /pol/tards and tumblrinas. I mean
>enforcing their vision of freedom on people who don't particularly want it.
Seems tailored for that comparison.
I'm surprised there's no adept skill for obsessing over food as a source of magic.
What would that be called anyways? Gourmetmancy?
>>46385638
Gastromancy
Man that 150$ tier gm screen looks enticing but getting the 1st and 2nd ed. pdfs seems kinda meh
>>46386686
You get the GM screen at any tier with the deluxe set don't you?
>>46385183
They're tiny little dirt clod golems. Strong but easily dispersed. Best suited for heavy lifting than for fighting
>>46380278
UA doesn't really focus on nonhuman entities, though. Unless Bill was human at one point.
>>46388418
No, but he is implied to have broken his home universe by trying to expand it with too many dimensions (it was originally two dimensional, or something). You may be able to rewrite him into a sort-of survivor of a previous iteration of reality, like the theoretical origin of The Man With Pencils Stuck In His Eyes.
>>46388467
Bingo, he would almost make a decent candidate for a Cruel One.
>>46388518
No wonder the demons don't like to talk about them
What about...?
Plutomancy - drawing power from organizing others through economic decadence
Currenomancy - drawing power from amassing arbitrary tokens representing social value
Religiomancy - drawing power from instigating others through religious hysteria
Bellomancy - drawing power from harming others through the terror of war
Quantomancy - drawing power from collapsing wave functions on a massive scale
Antagomancy - drawing power from disrupting groups through subtly insincere participation
Validomancy - drawing power from having strangers declare their support for your insubstantial publications
Egomancy - drawing power from relating any and everything to your own personal struggle
You know that blogger isn't up to par, but is she an Egomancer, or a Validomancer? How can you attack her power?
A cutthroat businessman in the know might be a Currenomancer sitting on a huge pile, or he could be a Plutomancer and his power base isn't in the vault but in HR.
>>46371985
I don't know.
Seems like we get a bunch of oddly specific niche schools and a few vague catchall cornerstones. There's no self evident balance of relevance, quite the opposite.
And I miss that zeitgeist appeal of the old editions, seems artificially flavored with hype now.
>>46389332
>seems artificially flavored with hype now.
But... that's what zeitgeist appeal is. Back in the early 2000's, Epideromancy, Narco-Alchemy and all the others were just as "hype" as these things are now. Unknown Armies always was and still is about exploring the symbolic implications of current social trends.
>>46389354
It just seems like they had a better grasp of that in the 90s.
>>46384886
You can pledge $1, grab all three gamma pdfs and then cancel your pledge.
>>46389574
KS is a cunt when it comes to scripts. It's just a lot of bother. If someone would post the PDFs it would be easier to form an opinion without already hating it for having to jump through hoops.
I honor of the new edition here are some cool schools from the fan website I found:
Adepts:
>Exoteric Mages
Buying shit that looks magical gives you power. If somebody ever explains why whatever it is you bought isn't magic, or if you learn anything about the shit you bought you lose your charges. Ignorance is bliss, so keep buying the magic healing crystals.
http://ua.johntynes.com/content_comments.php?id=P4106_0_3_0
>Appellomancy
Name magic directly inspired by Oglaf: http://oglaf.com/branding/
http://ua.johntynes.com/content_comments.php?id=P4026_0_3_0
>Myomancy
A minor school based on talking to rats.
http://ua.johntynes.com/content_comments.php?id=P2241_0_3_0
>Charlatomancy
Get people to people believe in things you know aren't true.
http://ua.johntynes.com/content_comments.php?id=P1585_0_3_0
>Carcinomancy
Cigarette magic based on addiction and horrible body trauma.
http://ua.johntynes.com/content_comments.php?id=P2058_0_3_0
Avatars:
>The Faithful Hound
This one is actually not for humans, but for dogs. The faithful hound can't let its master come to harm.
http://ua.johntynes.com/content_comments.php?id=P3039_0_3_0
>The Stoic
No whining allowed. Never let emotions get the better of you.
http://ua.johntynes.com/content_comments.php?id=P1120_0_3_0
>The Passive Aggressive
"Show the utmost respect for authority while you make their lives impossible."
http://ua.johntynes.com/content_comments.php?id=P2088_0_3_0
>>46389756
What the fuck, why is there a name there. I don't use names.
>>46389763
Testing.
>>46389763
>>46389848
Yeah, thought so. It's the first of April, Louise. I think the mods are having some fun with us.
>>46389763
geez Louise, way to blow a fun little joke up out of all proportion.
I'm so suprised there's no social media magic. I was sure it'd be in there somewhere. People building up photogalleries of their lives, making them into bizzare modern lich phylacteries. Editing the way they present themselves to edit themselves. Living only in their own immeadiate past.
>>46390207
The game was released before the internet was a big deal. Clearly Twittomancy or something like it will be in 3e.
>>46390230
It ain't in the gamma versions of the books dude, i don't think it's there
Can someone post details about Viamancy?
>>46390326
What kind of deets? One of the Major Charge effects is creating a colour everyone remembers as always existing, with the same name as you. The colour Greg, for example.
>>46390536
Ha ha what? How does that relate to travel and cars?
What are the other spells?
>>46390536
Oh, and one of the others is
>Pick a haute couture designer and inflict total retrograde amnesia on the next twenty people to wear his or her creations.
Sounds like the climax of KlK was Ragyo spending a Major Charge or two.
>>46390562
Oh fuck, never mind, I'm a potato who can't read. That's Vestimancy, not Viaturgy.
Viaturgy's MCEs are:
<2>Major Charge Effects
Curse someone to become a car, unable to act on their own but conscious as humans physically climb
inside and force them to go here and there. Create a self-conscious, self-directed, self-repairing magickal
vehicle like in the novel Christine. Make a permanent shortcut between two places that any driver
who speaks a password or carries a specific talisman can access.
>>46390580
Would a viaturgist get taboo'd if he was forcibly driven somewhere or was like unconscious in an ambulance or something
>>46390636
Taboo: Ramblers drive. They are active agents of direction who show up, get attention, make trouble
and skip out one step ahead of the consequences. They are not passive passengers passing
through. Being in a motor vehicle that is controlled by someone else robs them of all stored magick.
No jet plane trips, no ferry-boat rides, and if they get shot or stabbed or thrown from the wreckage,
they better walk to the hospital or write off their charges along with the cost of the ambulance ride.
Of course, if they’re in such bad shape, how many charges could they have stored up?
>just finished a UA game about a roadtrip where carmagic and the avatar of the hacker would've been useful
Goddammit
>>46390783
What, To Go?
>one of the minor Viaturge spells lets you compel people to get into your car or face a rank 4 Isolation check
>it's called Get Out Of My Dreams
>lots of spells are named like this
>>46390649
That's such a good taboo; the best schools are set-up such that having an Adept around in your crew can lead to serious annoyances, but not so much that it would make the adventure unfun. I always thought that Videomancers and Bibliomancers were both kind of unfun for player characters, because neither could travel very far from their homes without losing their power.
Viaturges, on the other hand, have a taboo that makes them obsessively insistent upon a single thing.
"I'm driving."
"Seriously? You've been shot, like, four times bro."
"I'm. Driving."
What are some of their minor/significant spells?
>>46390864
In order:
Minor:
Get Out Of My Dreams: Compel someone to get in your car, or face a Rank 4 Isolation check as they think of all the cool shit that could have happened if they got in.
I Feel Safest Of All: If you want to physically assault the driver, you must pass a Rank 4 (10 if the vehicle is in motion) Violence check
Lifetime Piling Up: Apply all the trauma of a car crash to a person. Helplessness check, R3 if they're not in a car, R4 if they're in a different one, and R5 if they're in yours.
Red Light: Immobile cars won't go unless you subject them to Jesus Built My Hot Rod or rebuild the transmission, mobile cars' drivers automatically fail their next Pursuit roll.
Tire Marks: Look at a car and tell either where it has been or who has been in it for the last 100 miles.
Green Light: Your next Pursuit roll is a basic success as long as you're driving.
Ghost Roads: Go Astral for as many minutes as the roll result. A straight 30 is a half hour, etc.
Significants in next post.
>>46390930
Significant:
Crosstown Traffic: The next time the target steps onto a street with at least light traffic levels, they get hit by a car.
I Am The Highway: Teleport ten miles, with the following restrictions: Only while driving; The target must be a stretch of road that you could actually reach (no teleporting past raised bridges, etc.); Not while under active pursuit (but you can escape people tailing you like this). You also get to see what's at the destination before you commit to it.
Ramble On: Escape from or disable one tangible & deliberate impedance between yourself and your vehicle, or your vehicle and the open road.
Jesus Built My Hot Rod: You know that scene in Ratchet and Clank 2 where the mystic on Tabora waves his hands and fixes your smashed-up starship? Exactly like that, although what he does would take five castings of JBMH.
Via Libris: Severs any unwanted magickal effects as long as you cast it while moving away from the origin inside a car.
Rolling Throne: Can only be cast on your favourite ride. Lets you: Flip-flop all Pursuit rolls while driving the RT; Substitute your Viaturgy ID for Pursuit while driving the RT; Prevent the car from starting for anyone else who does not have either your express permission or a 25% or higher relationship with you; Always get a great parking spot if possible; Double the trunk space; Summon the RT by spending a significant charge while away from it. However, it has some limits: May only charge while driving the RT; Cannot gain minor charges until any damage the RT sustains is repaired; Lose all charges if something else is driven; The RT develops a nasty knock and rattle unless you run it on premium.
Unchained: The target person can never give you a stress check again, nor can anything that happens to them. Any relationship you may have with that person drops to zero, and may never be rebuilt. Basically, like Via Libris and Ramble On, but for emotions.
>>46390930
>>46391055
Incidentally, does anyone know how many of these are song references? I can peg the first two Minors (Get Outta My Dreams, Get Into My Car by Billy Ocean and Cars [the line is 'Here in my car, I feel safest of all] by Gary Numan), but none of the rest.
>>46390783
>>46390821
Car Magic has been a recurring thing that almost inevitably pops up when people talk about running Unknown Armies campaigns - I remember back in 2004-5 on the UA mailing list both Tynes and Stolze gushed a little over the fan made "Charioteer" avatar that was made for this weird as hell campaign where all the PCs were drivers in a taxicab firm and had to deal with weird shit like "once a month, a call would come through to go to a specific street corner and open the rear door of their car so a cockeral could hop in, they'd then have to deliver that cockeral to a specific location where they'd get paid for the journey plus a tip of double the journey fee by an incredibly plain looking person"
Unknown Armies is one of the few systems that actually gives drivers enough crunch to play with that a "Driver" PC isn't the boring dogsbody of the group who just chauffers the party around.
>>46391144
Ramble On is a Led Zeppelin song.
>Captcha: select all pictures of commercial trucks
>>46391232
>Trucker is one of the example identities
Now you just listen to the old Pork Chop Express here...
Still trying to make that meme-based school of magic work. Struggling.
>>46391281
Like Sociomancy, but instead of getting charges for becoming one with the mass, you get charges for propagating the meme?
>>46391144
Rolling Throne = Rolling Stones
Red Light and Green Light = Red Light, Green Light (a children's game, also a Limp Bizkit/Snoop Dogg song)
Jesus Built My Hot Rod = Ministry Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXCh9OhDiCI
Lifetime Piling Up = Talking Heads song
Crosstown Traffic = Hendrix song
I Am the Highway = Audioslave song
Unchained = Van Halen song
Ghost Roads = found a youtube by this guy called that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewBaN4pSBFU
no other song afaik (youtube is FULL of videos of "real road ghost!!!elevenes!!" dashcam footage though)
>>46389145
Yknow Plutomancy was a big 1st Ed Adept school right?
>>46391339
but like Irascimancy, you can't get charges off the internet, so you gotta pepe post IRL
>>46391339
We previously had a very brief thread on the subject. The core paradox was that memes are created to be subversive - memes SUBVERT other media in order to tell an in-joke - but a successful meme by nature ceases to be subversive as it becomes familiar and so loses its edge. Memes are meant to be in-jokes but a popular in-joke is no longer an in-joke!
Following this idea I figured that the theme of the spells should be about spreading, killing and subverting ideas. Never directly though. Always on a scale of a small internet community, in a subtle fashion.
The taboo could relate to avoiding popular products, food, music genres, roads etc but that feels too ill-defined.
This is as far as I got.
>>46390821
I don't understand the reference.
>>46391407
Ah, also, a major charge could be gained by creating a meme so popular even normies embrace it on mass media (e.g. rickrolling) but then of course you can never use that meme again.
>>46391423
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNgcYGgtf8M
>>46391407
I was thinking the taboo could be kind of like the Cinemancy one about cliches, being basically 'Wherever I am, I must meme.'
>>46391438
What happens when you do something Milhousey though? Because Milhouse isn't a meme, but Milhouse not being a meme is a meme?
>>46389763
Any relation to Louis Dodgson?
>>46391434
Meme mages get a major charge when the meme they created ends up on Buzzfeed
>>46393231
But everything eventually ends up on Buzzfeed
God I'm so happy about this. I got a decent refund check coming in the mail and a good chunk is going towards this
>>46394097
>check coming in the mail
I only know this as a metaphor.
Do you people actually still mail IOUs around with stamps and everything?
>>46394366
Not that guy, but my tax Return is going to be coming soon, and I'm getting a siggy off of it, so go to hell.
>>46394366
It's from my grad school. They fucked things up and rather than deposit the cash in the account it came from they are dragging things out by sending it through the mail. It's asinine but it's cash
I'd be hard pressed to find a place that even accepts checks. I mean traveler's checks at tourist places, sure. But there's 3 systems in place to pay with your atm card. And I don't think any of our banks even still issue checks.
I wonder if there's some school instigating this for powers.
>>46390041
Yo, I'm not even scared of spiders but seeing the one that captured the fish gave me chills. What the hell, man.
>>46395670
I just had a party cross the Plateau of Leng by sticking hand sized baby spiders on their chests and letting them suckle blood like vampires so the grown Leng spiders wouldn't hunt them.
The moment the players freaked out was when they returned to our world and the spider vampires turned into pulsating balls of thousands of ordinary harmless spiders that proceeded to do as spiders do and scurried in all directions, favoring folds and crevices.
>>46395882
Stealing this
>>46395938
They had rules of a pilgrimage instructing them, otherwise they wouldn't have done it I believe. It also started to influence their senses. Their sight got blurrier and blurrier while they started to sense vibrations of air fine enough to track movement. One tried climbing up a cliff face and passed his climb check unrelated to the spiders. This prompted another to punch a third by surprise to discovere they hadn't gained a spidey sense of impeding danger. Then the third player made sure the second's character didn't either. Doesn't hurt to double check. Well, not much anyway.
Will one of you pussies just upload the PDFs already
>>46396239
Not with that attitude.
>>46398188
Pretty please? I mean that wasn't me but I'm here now.
Doesn't really matter, my paypal pal has it covered. But it will take him a few days...
>>46398188
Please Annette, I'm not like Mabel, more like Kelly
>>46398462
>>46399032
Working on it. My dogshit laptop is gonna make this take a lot longer than it has to.
>>46399032
>>46398462
>>46396239
>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/x03hz0003i0fa/UA3e
Enjoy, you cheap fuckers.
>>46400188
Legit
Proud of yourself?
>>46400188
This better be some goddamn touhou futa or I will be disappointed in you.
>One of the proposed identities is Muslim and not Catholic.
What ? Have i been here to long that this shit annoys me ?
>>46401402
Yes.
![FaceTable[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/UFgQ6po.gif "FaceTable[1].gif")
>Hashtag's Lingering Curse
>Take the Red Pill
>Fake Geek BoiAlthough a magick that gets significant charges from being dicks to other people is fun
>>46401402
No, it's not unreasonable to get upset at those sorts of messages and ideas being inserted into games we enjoy.
However, the muslim thing actually isn't that bad because Catholicism isn't exactly in the public eye and perception right now as a growing religious movement. Islam is however very much growing and the culture clash makes for interesting playtime adventures, even though in real life its actually a negative message being shoved down the player's throats.
You can't expect any game, much less one as topical as Unknown Armies, to not have unseemly modern ideologies that you don't agree with inserted into it. Unless the book was written like a technical manual it would be nearly impossible, and I even think it would suffer for it.
>>46403371
Oh please tell me none of those are in the book.
>>46404100
All of them are motumancy spells.
>Ordo Corpulentis
we Mr.Robot now.
In 1998 a russian author wrote a book that could make people physically sick through combination of sounds and ideas.
To celebrate that KS has succeeded here is link if you are into slav.
https://lleo.me/arhive/no_humor/zdt.htm
>>46377588
>hate groups like the Tea Party
So which side would you pick: Alcohol or Coffee ?
>>46406029
>Would you run a game
where the ‘winning move’ was always ‘be racist’? If so, don’t buy my books, please.
Book 2 page 49
Guiren Pan was a weird fellow, no doubt about it. He studied geomancy and Chinese herbalism and he’d gotten hold of something called the Ritual of Darkness, which he meant to use to slaughter a whole bunch of Japanese people, or at least curse them. That was his plan.
But as it happens, even if you’re really good at Chinese medicine and don’t give much of a crap what happens to you, the late 1940s were not a good time to try to go from China to Japan when you’re pretty old and have a lot of health issues related to surviving a mustard gas attack. By the time Guiren got there, his anger had cooled, not due to any particular revelation, but just because that
kind of rage is hard to sustain for a decade. Also, Takehara is in Hiroshima prefecture, and traveling there took him past Nagasaki, so Guiren had a sneaking suspicion that no matter what the Ritual of Darkness wound up doing, it was going to read like a footnote.
But he arrived, eventually. He’d originally planned to bring, and sacrifice, his dead daughter’s pet rabbit, but it had perished in cosseted senescence long before that. He brought one of its grandchildren instead, and as he sailed to the island, he realized that its position was pretty auspicious. Geomancer, remember? Instead of casting a curse, he let the rabbit go free and cast his spell as the Ritual of Light instead.
He didn’t know it would lead to a lot of Japanese people traveling to Ōkunoshima just to be simply and uncomplicatedly happy as rabbits cuddled them, the way his daughter had cuddled her pet. But he did it with some hope, and bunnies there today are all descended from the one he brought.
>>46390207
I think GNOMON and Cameraturgy are meant to capture those aspects.
>>46406462
Or maybe Sociomancy, where your facebook friends or twitter followers are your subculture.
>>46406113
Water
>>46391055
I gotta say I fucking love the spell name Rolling Throne. I was reading this post to a less UA aquainted friend and he mentioned it sounded like a Stand. Which it totally does.
Can't wait til I get some time to actually read the damn thing.
>“What Ability Do I Use to Win Arguments on Facebook?”
>None. You only roll dice for things that matter.
kek
>>46400188
Thanks dude
while we're here, can someone share some supps of the 2nd edition? I dont think I would be playing them soon, but these things are always nice and eerie reading materials
>>46349665
So there are people who can actually GM and/or play this game?
I love the setting, and I love the system, but the only time I used it was for a dark ages thing without any link to the original game, because I'm weak. How does one set up a game of UA?
>>46411097
With a rumor.
>>46410727
>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/gd5s5iryj8yl8/Unknown_Armies
I got it all, playboy.
>>46411097
Right now I'm working with a prompt that I sort of helped an anon in a long past UA thread flesh out. Each PC was helped out of a supernatural jam by a mysterious man named Charles at some point in their life. Several years later they are contacted by Charles who tells them it's time to repay the favor. So the PCs go to his house, this is where they would meet each other probably for the first time, and find Charles inside. He gives the PCs a little info dump about the Occult Underground and why he likes to help people (In my version of this they will find that he was part of a small time Underground vigilante team. The last surviving member of the team will be their mentor/in to the Underground). Lastly, he tells the PCs that they can repay the favor by avenging his death then he pulls a gun from his coat and shoots himself in the head, the big implication being that someone magicked Charles into killing himself.
So far I've only done short prologue sessions with each player where Charles helps them out for the first time but we're looking to do the first session tomorrow. If anything worth talking about happens there will be storytime.
>>46411097
Grab a hold of the second edition book and look at the 'creating your group' sections at the beginning of each tier of play. Pick one. Get everyone together to nut out the details of what they want to play as within that choice. Then riff off what they give you plus whatever ideas the original choice threw out at you.
>>46349665
I'm mostly just glad this shitty cover will no longer be the first thing people see when I try to tell them about the game (the 1e cover was pretty awesome, shame they didn't keep it).
>>46412394
The new covers don't look that good either, I hope they're not the final design.
Reading through the Gammas right now. Without even getting into the mechanics, Stolze is easily the best writer in the industry, bar none.
>>46413472
True.
Also, did we get a universal reset in 2003? Like, To Go had The Holy Prole ascended, we hit 333 and we got sent back to...this. Like, not even "a new universe started", like "we restarted at this point".
Goddamn it I love this fucking game.
>>46414501
The vibe I'm getting is more like "Something went wrong and now all bets are off"
The way it's supposed to work is that the Clergy gets filled up to 332, and then the Compte ascends as the First and Last Man, which ends this iteration of the universe and starts the next one.
But this time the Count got Renunciated and now he wants to end the cycle, and maybe he can do it. This reverberates throughout the book; in UA2, the Invisible Clergy is a secret held out to the Cosmic Level; in UA3 it's dropped off right in the introduction, basically. You've got Motumancers who've basically declared open war against the Stratosphere, and the text describing the difference between Avatars and Adepts spells out Adepts as being maybe more than just occult dead-ends that they are in UA2.
It's like the end of the Matrix Reloaded, except, you know, good.
>>46415404
I wonder if in UA universe 2012 was when the world was supposed to be rebooted.
>>46415683
Obviously it would be 3 march 2003. At 3:33
>>46411859
Holy shit! I'm the guy who was first working on that prompt. I'm so glad to hear someone is actually playing a game with it! I was never able to put together a group - my only interested friend moved away last year, and I never quite found a group of people I felt would mesh well with the themes of the game, who could think in the right way and take the punches well.
Please, let me know how it goes. I am so excited to hear how the story develops!
I believe I have some old image caps of my posts on my old computer, if you'd like those for reference when I get home in a few hours.
For now, here's my old Hooks document, of rumors and whispers from past /tg/ threads, that I love to consult...
>>46411859
>>46417077
Was that around April of last year?
I had a short lived UA campaign that I remembered hashing out with some dudes on /tg/ that has a similar premise.
The PCs were all friends with a guy named Greg. Between each of them Greg had the same personality, but varied wildly in appearance and background. One day all of the PCs wake up to the world where no one remembers Greg even existed except for each other, and all of them were missing a molar that was removed the night before.
I might try to get that restarted this year with the new 3e stuff. In the short time it ran before it campaign was subsumed by our Dark Heresy one we had a fist fight in a Red Lobster, buying cheap show katanas from a hippy in a van, and more terrible decisions than I've seen in any other campaign.
>>46417472
It was, yeah. I don't remember your premise though. Sounds like a good one!
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/coyote-bros-how-hard-partying-college-kids-became-illegal-alien-smugglers-20160330
This sounds like an interesting premise to start an adventure off with. Great way to get a huge variety of characters involved in a high-risk proposition, and the late-night drives along desert roads can get pretty creepy.
>>46417709
>"I was making so much money," Max says. "I didn't have to give a fuck."
Sounds like a PC to me.
>>46415718
Which is exactly what happened. The Freak and the Compte had a little pow-wow on that date and went into the House of Renunciation and came out with very different roles. The Freak now wants to make sure the Clergy is the best clergy it can be, and the Compte wants to burn the whole cycle down.
>>46417077
It's a great prompt man, I pass it around on here every time I get an excuse to. And if you've got anything you think would be helpful with running it I'd love to see it.
>>46417472
Wasn't the twist with that one that Greg had been walking an Avatar path and ascended? I remember brainstorming something about a campaign where the PCs just want to find a way to drag their ascended friend back to earth so they can hang out again.
>>46417837
Oh shit, I DO remember THAT premise! That one was a hilarious idea.
Also, I found the old thread in archives where I wrote up a lot of my ideas. Here's my 'seasons' layout I was working on long ago: http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/39992977/#40001128
>>46417472
And you were totally right dude, it was May.
>>46417837
>>46417898
Yeah, that was it. Greg ascended as Everyone's Best Friend, and in the process left behind a bunch of broken people behind, the PCs being one group of them. The tooth deal was a powerful Adept who Greg befriended trying to ritually find him, since he only knew about half of what Greg was actually doing.
My group never got too far with the plot, so I'm thinking about starting it up again with some of the gamma 3e stuff.
Also I find it pretty amusing how cozy UA threads on /tg/ are when I can run into two anons I spoke to nearly a year ago.
>>46417709
>tfw after reading that article you realize that you're just an NPC in somebody else's game
>>46417709
Once at a house party, Max casually tossed a wad of hundreds on the coffee table. When Sluyter asked about it, Max just winked and said, "I sell the American dream."
After Rhino completed his first trip, Max says, "we knew it was on." Around campus Sluyter began to hint that he "found a new way to make money and was going to make a lot more money." Max was less subtle. He would show up to parties with a "cheech and chong" blunt, a trunk full of expensive bottles of liquor and "recruit anyone," Sluyter says. "Max is charismatic. He can make you believe the sky is red."
At the height of summer, the team had as many as 20 drivers on their roster — including frat brothers, a stripper, a realtor, a door-to-door salesman, an ex-army ranger, a barback, a go-go dancer, a housewife and a masseuse.
This is fantastic stuff.
>>46372141
THAT WAS MY FAVORITE ONE FUCK
>>46418074
I too enjoy how cozy it is. I wonder if an anon game of UA might be nice? It does seem like most of the more active people here seem to have good ideas.
>>46372105
>>46372141
>>46418246
You could probably run 1e and 2e vs 3e adepts as a game pretty easily.
Oldepts are older with more resources and experience to draw from but lack cohesion and many are finding their taboos harder and harder to maintain outside of a few like Dipsomancers and Epideromancers.
Newdepts lack power and experience but have numbers and a stronger community bond than oldepts ever did, and their taboos are are easier to maintain in a 3e world.
I could see a full blown secret war happening in a few areas when newdepts try to break their way into the power structure or try to impose their will on the oldepts.
>>46404141
UGHHHHHHHHHHH
>>46418414
Agreed. I've been increasingly wanting my campaign (the Charles idea) to think about the collision between the old and the new. Image relevant
>>46417898
This archive is a huge help, I've been having a real hard time think of reasons for who and why someone would want to off Charles in such a roundabout way. A big one I was kicking around was that Charles is a servant of the Room of Purpose. The PCs would all be at stagnant points in their lives and Charles shows up to kick them into action. Years later he realizes his lessons didn't take how he hoped and gets everybody together and kills himself in a last ditch effort to get the PCs to want to make something of themselves by setting up a bunch of fake clues around his house that will drag them into the Underground trying to solve a "murder". When I was outlining it it ended up getting a little too weird for me to keep track of so I decided to try something simpler.
>>46418074
It's like our own little Occult Underground. I also frequent DG threads so I'm generally under the assumption that I'm regularly talking to the same 20 or so anons at any given time.
>>46418246
I saw a really good idea in a recent thread where a group of washed up Videomancers go on a revenge binge after the X-Files comes back on air.
>>46418711
Well, the most compelling reason to kill Charles in a roundabout way is because it's the only way available to them, or because it has incredible significance to their plans.
For example, in the old plotline I was working on, the idea was that the "Kannibal Krew", the fast food cabal that seeks to control people through what they eat, simply took advantage of their usual tactic in a dramatic manner. They had less... dramatic... plans, but when they realized he was reaching out to people and talking to them, they knew they had to 'pull the trigger' so to speak, before the secrets they -thought- he knew leaked out.
>>46418785
Might end up using this. It ties in pretty well with the idea of Charles being part of an underground vigilante team and sets up for some fun interactions with Mak Attax.
>>46418268
That would be really cool and I'd be down if my computer wasn't a toaster.
>>46371985
>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/atlasgames/unknown-armies-third-edition-roleplaying-game
Damn. If you ask me these schools are fucking rad. Especially eager to see how GNOMON and Sociomancy interact with one another.
>>46419094
Well you can use IRC, right?
>>46419240
I'd hope so. Never played a game over text but I guess it's never too late to try something new.
>>46419298
It's pretty fun, actually. 90% of my RPGs I've played over text and I generally really enjoy it. You get to put a lot more thought into description and roleplay.
And it's good for when none of your friends share your tastes.
Hey I bookmarked all of the Book 1 Gamma. Hope I haven't missed anything!
I don't seem to have 1e in my collection.
Anybody got it?
>>46420384
Someone posted a mediafire link up above
>>46420384
Nothing in there says 1e. Does it have a punny title?
>>46411859
>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/gd5s5iryj8yl8/Unknown_Armies
>>46372141
I actually really like the idea of a Videomancer in the modern day. A completely shut-in recluse, still gaining some small power and going 'slowly' completely insane as his cultural relevance completely evaporates. A great recurring character.
>>46414501
Berenstein Bears is now Berenstain Bears
Interview with a/the vampire
sex in/and the city
mirror mirror on the wall/magic mirror on the wall
chic-fil-a/chick (some remember chik)
luke/no, I am your father
If you build it they/he will come
Smokey the Bear/Smokey Bear
beautiful day in the/this neighborhood
we're gonna need a bigger/you're gonna need
daylight savings/daylight saving time
cruella Deville/De vil
book of isiah-the lion shall lay down with the lamb/the wolf shall lay down with the lamb
sketchers/skechers (shoes)
Proctor & Gamble/Procter & Gamble
Life is/was like a box of chocolates
dilemna/dilemma
You say tomato/You like tomato
new zealand moved from above to below australia
Australia moved closer to Southeast Asia
Panama Canal is now north to south not east to west
n*sync/*nsync
Reba Mcintyre/McEntire
Still looking for 1e.
And what is "Hush Hush"?
>>46420906
Hush Hush is the Sleepers book.
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