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Is this the new delver?
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Is this the new delver?
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It doesnt have evasion!
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>>46245942

No, they had another that basically was Delver sans flying.
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>>46245942
No, not even close.
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>>46245960
But it does allow you to get a 1 for 0 trade and a creature that doesn't die to lightning bolt.
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>Enchant creature
>Not enchant creature you control

Oh wow this is a big "fuck you" to combo pieces.

It's essentially at least as powerful as a Lightning Bolt if less versatile.

You kill a raging mook (like Lightning Bolt would) by blocking it and get a 3/4 that doesn't have summoning sickness on your next turn. If it lives, you can swing for 3. Getting double benefit from LB (3+ to creature AND 3 to face) from 1 red mana.

The problem is sorcery speed, so you can't force an enemy haste creature to attack on the turn it was summoned. You also don't get much in the way of enchantment destruction.

You're risking maybe 3 extra damage vs. enchantment destruction and tempo loss.
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>>46246245
>>46246073
You forget the most important part : You need a blocker on the board that's better than the creature you are enchanting.

Tldr : it's shit.
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>>46246613
T1, play any 1 drop- that red 2/1 vamp for 1. T2, play skin invasion on their 1 drop, block it there.

Trading a 1 drop for a 3/4 and one of their 1 drops works for me
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>>46246613
This into goyf is pretty good. Could see it in jund or even zoo. Even just using it then bolting the creature gives you a 3/4 for 1 mana that doesn't die to bolt. Can be used to mess with other decks mana dorks as well.
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>>46246941

You assume that :

> you have both a 2/1 and the aura in hand and are in the play
> your opponent plays a 1 drop on his turn 1
> your opponent doesnt get rid of your 2/1 during his first main phase on his turn 2.

How is this even remotely consistent ?
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>>46247045
Great against aggro and midrange decks as it will go onto their turn 1 play. Good against control decks as if you really need to, can play it on your own creature or play it on one of their big threats in order to prevent them from blocking. Can disrupt certain combo decks like storm, elves, and any other combo that heavily relies on creatures. Only decks I see this being bad against is ad nauseam, and ascendancy combo as neither care about their creatures (ascendancy combo can just tap their mana dorks before attacking), and maybe tron (but it can be used as insurance against pyroclasm by putting it on one of your own creatures.)
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>>46245942
Put this shit on a scion and you're golden
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>>46245942
no, but its good
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>>46245942
It's an enchantment not a creature, so no.
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>>46246613
Like a baleful strix?
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>>46245942

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>>46245942
Does a creature die when sacrificed?
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>>46249707
Yes
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>>46245942
Play it with the vampire that gets +2/-2 when you discard.
If they keep letting it hit, you win, if they block it you win too. If you're caught with your pants down, activate him again and get the bug.
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>>46249707
No, it's still perfectly alive, like all of those Aztec slaves that weren't at all sacrificed in a bloody ritual involving cutting out their hearts.
Didn't die. That'd be silly.
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>>46250662
>being a semantic semite
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>>46250754
Ask a dumb question, receive a dumb answer.
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>>46249707
Depends if it goes to the graveyard or not. See: Anafenza, Kalitas.
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>>46249707
"Dies" is short for "when put into the graveyard from the battlefield."
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>>46250754
>being an antisemite
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>>46249974
>>46250856
>>46251563
Thanks, anons!
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>>46251584
>not being a grammer nazi
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>>46251563
Only if it's a creature though, right? Or can a land/enchantment/etc die?
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>>46245942

>it still has the guy's face after it swallows him from the inside.

Easily THE most disturbing thing in SOI flavorwise
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>>46251657
Can a rock die?
Jokes aside, noncreature permaments don't "die". They are either sacrificed, destroyed, or exiled.
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>>46252336
Can a golem die?
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>>46251657
>>46252336
They technically can, although I doubt its ever been referred to.
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>>46252336
>They are either sacrificed, destroyed, or exiled
So are creatures, and they can still die.
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>>46252373
I thought so, but the fact that Karn is still hanging around makes me question that.
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>>46252373
>>46252455
>noncreature
>"b-but creatures"
i would be embarrassed if I were you
>>46252415
Exactly. There are no cards referring to the noncreature permaments "dying", thus as of today it is not an existing mechanic.
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>>46251669
There's also the fact that the doctor is probably infected as well and is probaby helping spread them.
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>>46252645
>i would be embarrassed if I were you
I'd be embarrassed if I was as bad at reading comprehension as you.


>There are no cards referring to the noncreature permaments "dying", thus as of today it is not an existing mechanic.
Cards referring to something doesn't make it a rule, the rules referring to something makes it a game-term
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>>46252645
noncreatures still get put into the graveyard from the battlefield, they just don't use the shorthand 'dies' because it wouldn't make sense.
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>>46245942
>they printed it at uncommon so no chance of breaking pauper like delver did
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>>46252645
Die is a shorthand from "goes to the graveyard from the battlefield", that's all. If you manage to put it on a noncreature permanent and it goes from the graveyard to the battlefield while enchanted, you'll be able to use the triggered ability on Skin Invasion.
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>>46247045
you can also just play it on a threat you don't want them to remove
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>>46252645
it's not grammar since "wordplay" doesn't work on cards in magic like it does in real life.

"dies" is basically like "bury"

it means something in the comprehensive rules and is short hand


just like when a card says "lifelink" on it
it isn't actually a word, its just short for a long ass explanation in the comprehensive rules
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>>46250430
if all else fails play it with the 2/1 for R that gives all vampires madness and play more of the +2/-2 vampires from your hand while you pump
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>>46252802
>If you manage to put it on a noncreature permanent
which you can't, because it's an aura with "enchant creature". If you put it on a creature which then ceases being a creature, the enchantment will be put into the graveyard as a state-based action. So no, you will never be able to trigger Skin Evasion by a non-creature permament "dying", using today's rules.
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>700.4. The term dies means “is put into a graveyard from the battlefield.”

There's your answers, everyone. Every permanent can die, not just Creatures.
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>>46253177
I doubt they will make that in a non Unset, but there are cards that can alter the wording on other cards permanently. Such as Balduvian Shaman for example.
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