What kind of witch is this /tg/
Well son, that there's what we call a Toohoo. Useta be pretty durn common 'round here, an' ya still see 'em from time ta time, but their numbers dropped a bunch few years back.
The kind that sells her body to satisfy foot-fetishist.
It's called a toe hoe.
I love witch hats so much...
>>46218194
Kids, don't mix drugs and magic.
>>46217859
The kind you fuck.
>>46218327
Say what?
>>46217859
An ordinary one, of course.
>>46217859
A black-white one, which is about 28.5714% the strength of a seven-colour magician.
>>46217859
Level 5 Human Sorceress.
>>46217859
One with a penchant for thievery and not staying out of people's libraries.
>>46217859
IMMA CHARGING MAH LAZOR-kind one
>>46217859
Good question, which witch is that?
>>46218735
Are you sure you want to know the answer?
>>46218735
>Which witch is that?
That witch that has that hat. That hated witch.
>>46218327
But I'm an alchemist. That's my whole job.
>>46217859
a kewt one
>>46217859
The nigger kind
>>46219068
I recognise that doujin!
>>46218891
I love this shit.
Do you have a download link for them?
>>46217859
The one that's part of our first line of defense against uncaring and malevolent supernatural forces.
>>46219173
I don't!
>>46219219
Somewhere in /jp/'s archive you should find a thread about someone wanting to make wooden cutouts of Dinohayous and near the end of the thread someone linked to a download link containing tons of them.
>>46217859
that's not a witch, that's a filthy thief
Should I trust this bird?
>tfw you fist look at Touhou and realize that every cute girl is either skivvy as fuck or at outright psychopath by nature.
>>46221103
>you fist look
What
who let the barbarians in
>>46221103
This is not true!
>>46221118
It was in 2005 anon.
That feel has stayed with me.
>>46217903
>>46221103
Did anybody use those stupid Touhou Power Cards or whatever they were called? What prompted those anyway?
>>46221123
>Fairy
>Not psychotic by nature.
We all know Cirno has zero problems with freezing innocent people to death.
Mostly because she would forget about it immediately and go get smashed.
>>46221066
Yes, and you should subscribe to her newspaper too, she tells nothing but the truth.
>>46221141
What about her massive hatefuck relationship with the AWOO?
>>46221103
>>46221140
Fun Fact: The only 2hus you should be reasonably safe from are the Tengu (Momiji and Aya) and Kappa.
Probably Ran, too.
>>46221154
>Hatefuck
They legitimately don't like each other, it's not a "hatefuck" at all since that implies they "enjoy" running into one another outside of work.
Read "Hunting Dog's Fangs", not only is it a Momiji-exclusive doujin, but it's one that really goes a long way to portray the Momiji/Aya relationship.
>>46221140
If you die to a fairy, that's your prerogative for allowing something that even the skinniest nerd could beat up.
>>46221160
>Kappa
What is your buttgem?
Also, Keine > all for safety.
>>46221160
Ran and Yukari are youkai, thus they eat human flesh.
Also, Yukari loves fucking with people, and Ran is a kitsune.
Being around Ran means you are around Yukari, and also *HONK*
>>46221160
>Kappa
>literally throws Shirikodama around like cheap candy
>>46221103
I don't think most of them are particularly psycho (although some are), although I think "canonically" (for what passes as canon in Touhou) all the yokai are supposed to have to eat human flesh. That's mostly ignored except for some (vampires obviously drink blood since that's a pretty big part of being a vampire, and Rumia mentions in one game that she eats people so that's part of her characterisation).
>>46221195
>Ran and Yukari are youkai, thus they eat human flesh.
Tengu are youkai as well, and they're not particularly prone to hunting down humans.
Plus Ran is a Kitsune, not a Kumiho, the difference is in their habit for eating human flesh.
>>46221187
>If you die to a fairy, that's your prerogative for allowing something that even the skinniest nerd could beat up.
Really? The immortal little forces of personified aspects of nature?
Yeah no, any Fairy that isn't unconscious from drinking would murder the hell out of even the strongest non-spiritual human.
>>46221219
>although I think "canonically" (for what passes as canon in Touhou) all the yokai are supposed to have to eat human flesh
I've been led to believe they "prefer" the taste of human flesh above all others, but there's plenty of cases where they seem to eat and enjoy other stuff.
>>46221220
Nah, in touhou all youkai eat human flesh, not as their main diet for the vast majority, but they have to eat it.
They usually settle for just kidnapping depressed people from the outside world for it, or people stupid enough to wander into their territory.
>>46221253
IIRC It's a health thing, they have to eat human flesh, much like they exist off of the fear and belief of humans in general, before Gensokyo made that a moot point.
>>46221221
That's utter bs.
Perfect Memento in Strict Sense lists faires as having a low threat level.
Only those who can win the Darwin award die to faires.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Fairy
>>46221315
Fairies have a "Low" threat level.
Humans don't even have a threat level, unless they got some mystical bullfuck backing them.
Doesn't matter how strong a human is when a spear of ice runs through their cranium because they upset the dumb fairy.
>>46221337
>Humans don't even have a threat level, unless they got some mystical bullfuck backing them.
The average Human in Gensokyo is stronger than the average Youkai.
This is canon.
>>46221364
Is it considering those dumb item spirits as the average?
>>46221337
Unless you are planning on arguing against *WRITTEN* canon, I don't see your point.
They are stupid and don't have the same frame of mind as everyone else when it comes to life and death, this does not make them malicious.
To suggest that they are is wrong.
>>46221385
Below, actually.
They are extremely weak.
>>46221385
>Today, the normal Gensokyo human is probably a little more powerful than the average youkai, but the population of youkai greatly outnumbers humans. Most humans live in the Human Village, but a few live in other notable locations.
What passes for the "average" Youkai is your bog-standard mooks that often get violently obliterated by Reimu in a manga, the named Youkai are by their nature exceptional and, unless noted otherwise, considered stronger than the average.
>>46221401
>Below, actually.
Unless we go by erotic doujinshi standard.
>>46221455
Of course.
>>46221271
>>46221257
The human flesh thing is awkward because of this passage:
>Yukari mentions to herself that "youkai may attack humans but do not eat them recklessly. Humans from the town are generally not for their eating under the contract" in Cage in Lunatic Runagate Chapter 5, showing the contract (or at least, a contract) extends to all youkai and prevents consumption, not attacking.
Outsiders are good to eat unless they make it to Hakurei Shrine or the Human Village, which means if any of us somehow wind up in Gensokyo and meet a cute girl with a funny hat, you're probably gonna get ate.
For me, the perfect reason for elaborating own setting was only the sadistic mean spirit of otherwise charming touhou's "your everyday magical girls".
>>46221140
Actually, Cirno is stated to have a rather sensitive side and cries easy when something bad happens. She's not the sort that would wantonly murder things intentionally.
>>46221484
Which brings into question why humans have to stay in that one(?) village all the time (unless that's part of the contract?) since any youkai self-aware enough to gain a level of power sufficient to pose a threat to the average human would also be sufficiently sentient to follow the contract.
Or is the population of humans in the village so little that none of them have the ability or inclination to strike out from time to time?
What kind of goblin is this?
>>46221969
Some sort of high blood-alcohol-level Chinese Goblin
>>46221969
Successful
>>46221969
>The oni is out of booze
Oh fuck, the universe is kill.
>>46221969
Medium Tautness Taiwanese Goblin
>>46221337
A man is far, /far/ stronger than your average fairy. For perspective, if reasonably agitated, an adult human can lift up a Chevrolet Camaro; he can use the same amount of force to quite literally pull a fairy apart the way a bear can swat off a person's head.
Cirno is special in that she has enough strength to reasonably fight off humans (in the same way that humans that can fight off youkai are special) with her ice ailities, but if one of them closes the distance she can rather quickly be overpowered. Lesser fairies can typically do little more than bruise a human with their danmaku or wishfully set them on fire if they're lucky enough to have that ability; it's safer to use their wings to fly away so they can't be struck.
The listing for humans in Memento in Strict Sense has their threat level set to "varied" for a good reason, because "Outsider Worlder" can mean anything from your average neet to the soldiers that fought off the Lunarians to Sumiko and Sanae to a professional wrestler.
All this thread has managed to do is make me want to beat down a fairy with a baseball bat.
>>46221416
Yup. Cirno being "the strongest" is treated as a joke, but she actually is far stronger than just about any other fairy. She's an actual stage boss (admittedly a weak one in one of the early stages), while the normal fairies are just mooks. Same goes for the other named characters, who are either playble characters or stage bosses (minibosses in some cases, but still more powerful than random mooks).
>>46222097
What about the mid-stage 5/6 death fairies? Where the hell do they come from?
>>46222150
Ummm....from Hell?
>>46221900
I think it's probably part of the contract they have with the yokai (they get to live in Gensokyo and the yokai won't eat them, but they have to live in the one human village set aside for them). They probably don't have a pretty big population, anyway.
>>46221103
>>46221690
I rather like the idea that all the cute girls in funny hats are actually man-eating monsters. While usually kind of ignored, it does allow for a pretty interesting spin on things if you would play it for horror or for moral dissonance (ie. they yokai may be perfectly nice and civil with each other, and often even with humans, but at the same time don't consider killing and eating humans any more morally wrong than humans consider butchering an animal for meat).
That could potentially make for a pretty interesting setting to set a game in, either playing as the yokai or as humans.
>>46222060
>>46222150
Are the Lunarians/Moon Rabbits overestimated in strength? Surely if fairies and humans are beating them tactically they must be doing something terribly wrong with that advanced magic and technology of theirs.
What about Eientei? That place doesn't look that dangerous to humans. At worst you'll get (lethally?) trolled by Tewi.
>>46222237
Well, the strongest person on the Lunarian's side is basically "Yukari Yakumo+some other stuff."
>>46222308
Seems like they're intentionally letting their peers lose then. Maybe all the strong Lunarians have an agenda of some sort that requires the moon to become impure from all the mortals mucking it up, therefore giving them an excuse to invade and annex Gensokyo?
>>46222237
Well was more like the Lunarians didn't want to touch the fairies cause they were icky. Basically Junko just infested the moon with ants to get them to be all "fuck this, we're moving".
In this case the fairies were more like really annoying pests.
>>46222237
Lunarian firepower is limited by their unwillingness to get their hands dirty.
Fairies beat them tactically because they're a source of impurity that can't be permanently killed. They're literally an incurable plague on the moon, even if the individual fairy wouldn't last a second against Lunarian technology.
Neil Armstrong beat the Lunarians because he's motherfucking Neil Armstrong.
>>46222245
It's situated in the middle of a forest were it's easy to get lost and where the are pit traps everywhere in addition to the magical girls who may want to Nom you.
>>46218437
>>46218993
CUI, casting under the influence, is a serious crime, and can result in imprisonment or worse, you can die!
Just say no kids.
>>46219302
>uncaring
Oh they care quite a bit, that's why they're malevolent to begin with. They care and are pissed at us for being little shits.
>>46222245
The forest around Eientei isn't safe at best.
>>46222235
I really want to run Don't Rest Your Head with the PCs being projected Sumireko-style into PC-98 era Gensokyo, but I know I wouldn't be able to pull it off.
>>46222392
Eh, fuck the moon in general.
Fucking moon, being a parasite on Earth's gravity.
Fuck everyone on it except for that one chick that liked the Murrican flag.
>>46222237
Eirin was apparently the only person who knew how most of their most advanced equipment worked on a technical level, and when she left the collective IQ of Lunaria dropped by 100 points. Pictured here are the Lunarian gate guards, ready to fight off the Mongolians invaders and their newfanged composite bows.
>>46222366
This too; the reason the Moon Rabbits exist is so they don't have to engage unclean races and youkai directly, because doing so might risk turning them into *gasp* regular humans.
>>46222409
>Don't Rest Your Head + Touhou
Can't Sleep, Lolis Will Eat Me?
>>46222422
Hey, the Moon is very useful. Without it we wouldn't have tides, and some astronomers go as far to say that the Moon being there was necessary for Earth to become habitable for life as we know it.
>>46222443
>collective IQ of Lunaria dropped by 100 points.
Average IQ.
>>46222449
It's been about a decade, but I remember in high-school there was some bullshit theory about the Earth eventually developing tides based upon the natural rotation of the planet if the moon ever got fucked.
I'm 99% certain it's just dumb pseudo-science though.
>>46222443
>Collective IQ
>Mongolians invaders
t. a Lunarian
>>46221136
The 4e power cards? I um... I might have had one or two...
>>46217859
Human Invoker 4 /Theif 4dm allowed multiclassing
>>46221885
Unless it's a frog.
>>46222409
DRYH is one of the few system that can accurately translate Toehoe powers. Just replace the Mad City by Gensokyo.
>>46221885
Cirno once tried to tame/defeat a daidarabotchi because she worried that she's not as strong on her own as she likes to claim she is, and she's civil enough that when she isn't wandering around the woods looking to train and get stronger, she runs a shaved ice stand.
What are the chances that she'd take a bunch of otherwise doomed outsiders and train them into her own squad of lackies? Since nothing says you're the strongest than having a bunch of humans answer to you!
>>46221186
>They legitimately don't like each other
What? I've never heard this before.
>>46222624
Other than 2hus generally not going insane from overuse of powers, yeah, pretty much.
What others are there, anyway? I hear Legends of the Wulin isn't bad, but I haven't had the time to look into it yet.
>>46222650
Cirno is already best friends with the ABSOLUTE POWER.
>>46217859
She's not a witch, she's a multiclass artificer/rogue. Or possibly even just a rogue with good UMD and a very generous DM.
>>46222651
Birdy has great respect for Awoo, Awoo is social class below Birdy, Birdy goes out of it's way to socially torture Awoo despite having respect for it, mostly along the lines of Awoo being an Awoo and not an Awoosnarl.
>>46222449
>Can't Sleep, Lolis Will Eat Me?
>>46221136
When 4e was originally coming out, some anon posted a torrent to what he said was leaks of the books. It turned out to be touhou several megs of Touhou futa.
For a while, Touhou futa was essentially /tg/'s equivalent of the Rickroll. That meme died down after a while, but not before someone decided to make Touhou power cards.
>>46222668
>Other than 2hus generally not going insane from overuse of powers
>Implying.
Seriously though, M&M and the Hero System can both accurately emulate any power. Both are effect-based point-models: i.e you buy a Damage Dealer with the Fire modifier to represent a fireball, a phoenix fire aura or the power of fusion.
There was a forum (The Atomic Think Tank) with more than several hundred M&M character sheets for every sources and powerlevel imaginable, from low-level brawl into full-on galactic tier. Fun read if you're into those kind of things.
My favorite depictions of 2hus portray them as both cute little girls and also terrifying monsters out of folklore.
As likely to have a tea party as they are to rip your arms off.
>>46222571
Nah, she's a wizard specializing in evocations.
>>46222700
Make sense.
>>46221140
Cirno goes out of her way not to kill fellow fairies, even knowing that they can revive. She's probably one of the least dangerous non-human Touhous to meet directly unless you do something to anger or threaten her.
"If humans were to fight her gracefully, it would seem that the weapon would become frozen and it wouldn't be possible to win to begin with, but if we were to just run away, if we poke at the point that she is an idiot, we are able to run away immediately, since she is not able to answer even simple riddles."If you really wanna kill her, feint friendliness and stab her in the back with an iron knife. You bastard.
>>46222876
>Wanting to kill the Cirno
Is there no end to the depravity of man?
>>46222825
Can M&M emulate time stop?
Touhou is actually a mental hospital in Meiji era Japan who only admits females as their patients.
The staff of the clinic is all-male and appears faceless, because they are generic in all regards compared to the female patients, who are kleptomaniacs, sadists and alcoholics and believe to be fairies, youkai, tengu and other fantasy creatures.Enjoy.
>>46222920
Well, less people are dying than in canon, so I suppose it's fine.
>>46222920
This sounds like a very interesting game.
Like SCP but with patient care.
>>46222235
There are some fan written stories that deal with that aspect of the setting - some are pretty morbidly fascinating. The one where Yukari starts a "human ration" program comes to mind. The same guy also wrote one about Sanae consuming human flesh to become a proper youkai. His stuff is quite grotesque.
But with regards to setting proper, it's all fairly well confirmed at this point that the youkai do not actually eat people who live there. It's all a big facade to maintain the youkai's "reason for being" - youkai are spiritual beings born from human fears and such, and need that to survive. So the human population of Gensokyo is manipulated into remaining fearful and marginalized in order to perpetuate the status quo that enables youkai to thrive. Danmaku duels are an extension of this system - they allow youkai to appear malicious and frightening without threatening actual harm. Gensokyo is something like a zoo - humans are the captive animals, cared for and protected but ultimately serving the needs of the youkai.
This is also why the biggest criminal in Gensokyo is Seija. Her goal is disruption of the status quo, which the youkai cannot permit.
>>46222920
What's going to happen when it's revealed that most of the patients do not physically age?
>>46222914
It us really easy, as there is a Time Manipulation effect IIRC. Emulating stands would be slightly more difficult, as there would probably several ways to create one.
It's an issue with M&M. There is often several competing ways to emulate complicated powers.
>>46217859
An ordinary one.
>>46222815
I miss that, it was hilarious. Some of them were high effort too, I remember one that started off as the real deal and switched over part way through.
>>46222965
Trying to survive very violent and unhinged patients as a generic male staff member while trying to take care of them and they are trying to kill you for whatever reasons, starting with cannibalism and ending with a plain mean violent streak?
>>46222983
They actually age, they just perceive time much faster than it actually is. So the events of all 12 (13? does anyone know how many games there are already?) games is just about two or three weeks, and they are just very violent catfights between the patients.
>>46222920
What about Rinnosuke?
>>46221484
>which means if any of us somehow wind up in Gensokyo and meet a cute girl with a funny hat, you're probably gonna get ate.
Which makes the whole thing about NEETs wanting to go to Gensokyo kind of funny. If you did go there and meet your waifu, she'd probably just eat you.
>>46223432
Better to die for something than live for nothing.
>>46222920
>[The piece of paper appears to be stained.]
>Patient log number 52.
>If anyone is reading this, and I'm not there, assume me dead.
>Last evening, a malfunction in the alarm system left me locked inside the juvenile criminal ward.
>I do not mind being locked inside. I do mind, however, I'm locked in the same ward as some of my patients. In particular, the Yakumo family.
>Where do I even start?
>Yakumo Yukari, age eighteen (unconfirmed), was admitted here about half a year ago, after she was apprehended by the police and was judged to be unable to stand before the court due to her state of mental health.
>I don't know what street she picked up her friends on, but the two other members of her "family" were admitted here shortly after Yukari. Their age is unknown, but the little kid can't be older than six or seven years old.
>Yukari was accused of cannibalism and murder of her parents. The witnesses' reports purportedly say that she was tearing into the flesh of her mother with her teeth when she was found by the witness.
>She evaded capture and disappeared to the streets, until she was found by the police about two months later, along with her "family" retinue.
>I was her psychiatrist for two months, and I've come to conclusion that this patient can't be cured. In fact, she is a malevolent influence on every patient in the whole ward.
>To be entirely honest, I'm afraid. I'm deathly afraid. I don't know whether I will last until the morning without the patients finding me.
>...Someone, please help me.
>>46223448
According to some versions the humans the yokai eat are supposed to be people who commit suicide in the real world (hence the meme with "going to Gensokoy" under a picture of a noose or a guy pointing a gun at his head). I suppose if you're planning on dying anyway, might as well die eaten by a cute loli with a funny hat.
Plus dying in Gensokyo probably has a decent chanse of you coming back as a ghost or something, given how much supernatural entities they have running around the place.
>>46222023
She's not out of booze, it just had the little stone in it roll down and stopper the gourd so it doesn't overflow and wreck the universe by filling it with booze.
It's a decanter of endless booze with safety precautions to stop you doing stupid things with it.
>>46222876
Fairies in Touhou draw their power from nature.
To kill Cirno you'd have to sooner melt all the ice in Gensokyo then just stab her with iron.
>>46223756
That's actually the joke, because she's a fairy, she's vulnerable to COLD IRON. Geddit?
>>46223756
>melt all the ice in Gensokyo
I can't imagine there'd be that much ice in Gensokyo, at least during the summer. Given that we've had bullshit like spring being stolen and the moon being replaced with a fake, melting all the ice in Gensokyo sounds pretty tame, Incident-wise.Not that I can see why anyone would ever want to.
>>46219383
sauce?!?!
>>46222981
>But with regards to setting proper, it's all fairly well confirmed at this point that the youkai do not actually eat people who live there
There are still some newborn or nonsentient youkai who eat humans because they don't know any better, but other youkai try to stop them if they find out.
Also it's implied that the village used to dispose of corpses by giving them to youkai to eat, but that this has become less common.
>>46224294
-mariho- by Hiroya
Patchy has Koa rape Marisa because she was sick of her stealing her books.
>>46222676
She's also a chemist
>>46224499
>>46222981
It's a little more subtle than that. Humans that don't follow the rules are pretty much fair game. This includes humans from the outside, or humans who do something stupid, or mess with the wrong people.
Ultimately, it is the survival of the entire human village that is important. As long as it is not jeopardized, individual can be eaten times to times. This is why there is so much tension between the Hakurei shrine, the human village, and the youkai. The Hakurei shrine nominally protects the human village, but often frets with some youkai. Reimu is constantly on the defensive: she can't do too much against the power struggle of Gensokyo, but neither can she do too little. People still get eaten: there would be no fear if it wasn't the case. You just don't risk much if you don't do something stupid.
Frankly, the equilibrium attained in Gensokyo only works because there is a large number of very powerful people actively working together to maintain it.
>>46223012
I remember when we finally got the real deal and several people were disappointed because they were hoping for touhou futa
>>46222388
>>46222394
Mokou does lead people out of the forest if she finds them.
>>46221103
KEINE-SENSEI DID NOTHING WRONG
N O T H I N G W R O N G
>>46224833
It's no wonder Reimu treats incident-starters like a millstone treats corn.
>>46224833
>Frankly, the equilibrium attained in Gensokyo only works because there is a large number of very powerful people actively working together to maintain it.
Makes sense as it's supposed to an area separated from the rest of the world by a magical barrier to create a place for the yokai to live in. It's not a "natural" system and only keeps functioning because there are several powerful being keeping it stable. If the human village is effectively a "zoo" as one anon mentioned, Gensokyo itself is effectively a yokai "preserve".
Which one is broke because she never gets donations? If the road was safer maybe she's have some money.
>>46222443
>Pictured here are the Lunarian gate guards, ready to fight off the Mongolians invaders and their newfanged composite bows.
But they're holding magical lightsabers.
>>46226249
That'd be Reimu, the murderho...shrine maiden of the Hakurei Shrine and the player character in most of the games. She does get money for beating the shit out of troublesome yokai, but is usually broke due being terrible at managing money.
In other words, she's actually a pretty typical PC character.
>>46222876
>Stab her in the back with a iron knife.
I know just the guy!
>>46226197
Its more than a preserve, snippets in the official character books and manga like Wild & Horned Hermit seem to imply Yukari spearheaded the creation of the place not only to preserve Youkai but to change them to better survive the absence of their "meaning".
Youkai, like all supernatural things, basically exist as explanations for man's ignorance of certain phenomena. Bust as mundane explanations for the concepts that created them came about with advances in human science and society the youkai ran a very high risk of going extinct. But even in Gensokyo they aren't totally safe so Yukari seems to be playing the long game: sequester them in a place apart from the real world and ween them off their definition by human fears. Slowly turning them into "individuals" with quirks based on what they are than living concepts, making them more "real" and "stable".
Because when people learn that the reason bodies left in a river or a lake bloat up and expel their viscera is because of methane buildup during decomposition and not turtle-people the concept of a kappa quickly starts to die off. But if that concept manifests as a loli inventor of knickknacks it becomes increasingly detached from needing to exist to explain bloated corpses and is less vulnerable to disappearance. Gensokyo is a crucible to protect the "things" that go bump in the night long enough for them to turn into "beings" that won't go poof if you turn the lights on.
Or something like that. . . far be it from me to claim to understand the machinations of Yog Sothoth in a frilly dress
>>46226498
Reimu is seriously best Touhou; Slaps youkais shit on a regualr basis and doesn't afraid of anything.
except being a poorfag, but thats understandable.
>>46224621
That's just ranks in craft(alchemy).
>>46222390
I read that as 'Just say no to kids' at first and was wondering why kids make you high.
>>46224833
Has that actually ever happened in official works?
The only human we know of who's broken the rules is the sage who wanted to become a youkai and live forever. He managed to work his way into becoming a vengeful spirit type thing, so Reimu vaporized him. Because damn uppity human didn't know his place.
Life in Gensokyo would suck. Not because you're going to get eaten - it would suck in the way living as a medieval peasant would suck. No future beyond the same thing your family has done for generations, laboring to support a system you probably don't even understand.SEIJA WAS RIGHT, DOWN WITH GENSOKYO
>>46226550
I suppose that's the explanation why they all look like lolis in funny hats as well? Maybe they're moving to live off of human waifuing instead of fear. The transition isn't fully complete yet, so while they look like cute lolis they still eat people.
>>46226815
There is no explanation for that. There are still non-humanoid youkai out there, attested to periodically in official mangas.
>>46226815
to be fair thats the definition of Gap-Moe, which is a serious draw to waifufags.
>>46217859
black-white
>>46222700
Where'd you get this from? It just seems like they don't get along.
>>46226914
Gap moe is just a term for gimmick waifus with no real personality.
>>46227007
No, it's a term for the appeal of juxtaposition of contradictory traits.
>>46227069
In other words, a gimmick character who first appears to be one thing and then reveals themselves to be another thing, in order to create a false sense of intimacy with the onlooker.
>>46227092
That's one way a shitty writer might try to use it.
>>46226815
Those are just the ones Zun cares to write about (and the ones that most of his audience wants to hear about). There are some in the manga that don't look like little girls. No one important except for Rinnosuke, of course, but they exist.
It's also been said that danmaku is mostly popular with women, which is silly, but there you go.
>>46226914
I'd consider Gap-Moe to be more for stuff like "tough-looking girl who loves cute things" or "high-class girl who laughs at crude jokes", not "cute girl who fucking eats you". It's all about having some character trait or personality flaw that seems to go against your "type" and personality, and while eating people is indeed not a typical cute loli trait, that's a bit more...serious then your typical Gap-Moe flaw.
>>46226550
The greedy inventor thing came from Akutagawa Ryuunosuke though. Same reason why Raiko is so strong is because she's powered by popular Outside World concepts.
>>46222650
It's implied that if she gets any stronger she will stop being fairy and become something completely else.
>>46227229
It's already happened many times. Once a year in fact.
Because Cirno is obviously just the larval form of Letty.
>>46227092
It's really more about the, well, gap-moe. The term literally refers to character being considered more "moe" because they have some trait that is out of place for their character type.
It makes more sense when you remember how heavily "typecasted" anime and manga characters tend to be. Almost every character tend to fall into some common archetype, often to the point where you can recognise from a single image what type of character they're supposed to be. Gap-Moe is about breaking the expectations by giving a character a trait that doesn't match their archetype.
>>46227327
>It makes more sense when you remember how heavily "typecasted" anime and manga characters tend to be.
Yes, this is certainly a flaw. Gap moe is just moving from first-order archetypes to second-order ones: rich girls with 'relatable' low-class habits, smart girls without common sense, cool guys with soft sides. That's why I find the term distasteful.
MAKE IT RAIN ON DEM YOUMU
>>46227434
Yeah, now that I think of it, there's a ton of "gap-moe" traits that are so common they're effectively archetypes on their own right. Tough character who loves cute things, refined girl who'se actually a pervert, thin girl with a huge appetite, to name a few. Soon they'll have to come up with "double-gap-moe" traits because the original traits have just become standard traits for that character type.
>>46227092
Like every Koishi doujin ever? Makes sense. With and all youkai being man eaters, Gensokyo is pretty grim dark after all, even with the focus on beauty and spiritualism.
>>46227664
ZUN seems to oscillate between grimdark and fluffy depending on his mood. I've even heard people argue that some of the more grimdark elements are 'old lore' from the PCB era, when he was purportedly just figuring out the setting. Of course, PCB is a beloved classic that went a fair distance towards crystallizing the setting for people, so I'm not sure I believe that.
>>46217859
Is pic related accurate?
>>46227169
It makes sense to me anon. Making pretty patterns with multi coloured bullets is an incredibly effeminate way to settle disputes.
>>46227735
>ZUN seems to oscillate between grimdark and fluffy depending on his mood.
The level of darkness is usually pretty consistent within a given series. It goes something like
Inaba&Inaba < Sangetsusei < CoLA < WaHH < Bougetsushou (except Inaba&Inaba) < Sealing Club stories (though sometimes they're just wistful instead of dark) < FS
>>46227761
No, Elodie, not everyone is as bloodthirsty as you.
>>46227854
Zun implies that Junko's bullets are the most masculine
>>46227886
Now go eat some chocolate.
Are Youkai dangerous /tg/?
>>46227924
That would be Koishi's bullets surely? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ1QZJidw6Y
>>46227957
I don't know, are they?
>>46227870
I do like the Sealing Club stories, they really capture that weird and otherworldly aspect of Touhou that so often seems to go forgotten. Wistful is a good word.
>>46227957
They eat people. That alone makes them dangerous, and most of them also posess abilities ranging from powerful to gamebreakingly OP (looking at you, Yukari's "can effectively do anything due to everything being able to be rules lawyered down to borders between two states"). It's a good thing they're confined to a sealed-off area and would lose most of their power in the outside world due to lack of belief.
>>46227870
Are the sealing club stories good? I've not read them.
As for FS, I'll point out that even though it's the darkest, the worst thing that actually happens to anyone are manipulation to keep them afraid and dine and dashing (there's also the whole "human zoo" thing mentioned up thread, but that's not really an active matter). Nobody gets eaten.
>>46227957
Absolutely not!
>>46227957
When ZUN was asked which Touhou character he'd go to a hot spring with, he said that's a weird question because anyone other than Reimu or Marisa would be too dangerous.
>>46226656
If you lick a loli cunny you get lots of magic and feel really good
A friend told me. Nothing to do with me!
Mokou is taller than Kaguya and is therefore superior.
>>46228112
>Are the sealing club stories good? I've not read them.
It's not like they're long or anything, anon. Find out for yourself.
>>46228002
>>46228033
>>46228112
They're confusing (probably not very well translated) and some of them are boring. I used to ignore them because Maribel and Renko seemed like unlikable 'OCs' with little to do with the rest of the setting, but now I really like them. They have this lovely vibe of mystery and wonder to them.
Read Retrospective 53 Minutes, it's the one that made the most sense to me.
zounose does the best grimdark touhou
this is like my favorite 2hu picture
>>46228231
holy shit my sides, i just can't stop laughing at this.
>>46228231
I can't bring myself to hate LittleShrimp no matter what /jp/ says.
>>46228179
>Neil Armstrong on second highest tier
I agree wholeheartedly with this. Astronauts are pretty much real life superheroes.
And in Touhou-universe the Apollo prgram was a coverup for USA invading the Moon. So Armstrong was sent there with the explicit purpose of punching the Moon-lolis in the face.
>>46228285
>that Marisa
Well, I'll be seeing that in my nightmares tonight.
>>46228426
>And in Touhou-universe the Apollo prgram was a coverup for USA invading the Moon.
Is it clear that this was their intention and not just Lunarian paranoia?
>>46222981
>His stuff is quite grotesque.
Sounds gratuitous. Why would Sanae try to become a youkai through cannibalism?
She's a living god so it's not necessary at all - and becoming a youkai that way would be a terrible idea, because your youkai nature is heavily influenced by the acts you do to achieve or earn it.
>>46228694
Isn't that what happened in World of Darkness?
>>46228731
Anon paraphrased it incorrectly, it's a ritual to install her as a 'proper' god by taking part in a ritual human sacrifice. She only eats a little bit.
Zounose's work is indeed pretty gratuitous, but when it looks that good, I can't pretend not to enjoy it. Just think of it as an alternate take on the setting.
>>46226692
It's changing fairly fast, even if it's mostly the youkai who benefit - and while not many of the humans pursue it, they can always learn magic. It's not so hard-bitten a life that there's no free time or education.
Marisa being one example. Rinnosuke's a talented artificer.
There're opportunities in Gensokyo that no longer exist in the outside world... such as eternal life.
>>46228731
I'm leaving a lot. Judge it for yourself, it's called Kaminare by Zounose.
>>46228179
>Eirin and Lunarians not in EX tier.
Don't even need to check the rest.
this one always makes me cry
>>46228986
Why?
>>46226987
He really just summarized that one doujin.
>>46228839
I've always wondered about that - is magic actually something anyone can just learn? We've never seen a human trying to learn magic (other than unreliable fortune telling). How feasible is it to pursue magic? How many people can make it the point where the obtain eternal life? I can't help but feel doubtful about it, given how uncommon it seems to be. After all, if all you had to do to obtain eternal life was work towards it, why would someone like Hieda no Are pursue the laborious path of reincarnation, slaving his soul to the Yama? Magic certainly wasn't super common in the myths that these figures are from. There most be some sort of limiting factor.
>>46229060
because it's sad.
http://exhentai.org/g/725716/234bb2d13d/?p=1
>>46229119
Well, Marisa was able to learn it, though it seems to have caused problems with her family.
Rinnosuke as well, though he's of indeterminate age due to being a half-youkai.
Kosuzu has a library in the village which has magical tomes.
And I'd think that if spellcards are a thing, that it should be possible for villagers to at least learn something basic? They're descended from youkai hunters, so there may be family traditions and teachings.
The Taoists would probably teach their magic as well.
As for the eternal life deal... it may just be that learning the two Magician spells is extremely difficult, or wasn't known when Akyu started her reincarnation cycle.
Now, with her lifespan cut so short, I'd guess there's no way for her to actually learn the magic either.
>>46228426
He really should have been a Senator.
>all this headcanon and fanon shit in the thread
Check your facts
>>46229119
The limiting factor is that the youkai will kill your shit the moment you wander into areas that would actually possess the knowledge or energy necessary for it.
>>46229261
We try, but ZUN gets drunk too often.
>>46229119
The same reason magic is super rare in most settings: it comes from secret traditions.
>>46228986
>anon reads Zounose
>mrw anon has the most excellent taste
my bro
>>46229236
I don't think Rinnosuke actually knows magic. He just has his weird innate ability and reads lots of books. Also, he's half youkai.
Kosuzu again just has a weird innate ability. Only magic she ever does is the fortune telling thing. She doesn't even seem particularly interested in learning magic, just sperging over youkai books.
I've always gotten the feeling that the Taoists were more of a pyramid scheme than anything. Their leader is a politician through and through, which should tell you all you need to know about his trustiworthiness.
Marisa is the only real human magician I know of. Everyone else is either a shrine maiden or someone who won the genetic (well, who knows if it's genetic, but you get my meaning) lottery Is that because most people lack the desire? The opportunity? The ability?
I'll also note that supernatural abilities by birth are not limited to Gensokyo - the sealing club girls and the psychic managed it in the outside world.
>>46229268
>>46229311
This is what I figured. I feel like it'd take some pretty extraordinary circumstances to be anything other than a normal human living in the village, which is basically the same as being a superstitious medieval peasant.
>>46229119
>>46229268
>>46229489
No, they're pretty much just normal farmers.
>>46229428
I think, though I may be mistaken, Alice may have been a human magic user who later became a Magician Youkai.
Either that or a demon, as a former inhabitant of Makai. But either way, she wouldn't have been a Magician by birth.
>>46229428
>I don't think Rinnosuke actually knows magic. He just has his weird innate ability and reads lots of books. Also, he's half youkai.
He made the mini-hakkero, and I think he states that he can do danmaku. Plus, he worked for the Kirisame family previously.
>Kosuzu again just has a weird innate ability. Only magic she ever does is the fortune telling thing. She doesn't even seem particularly interested in learning magic, just sperging over youkai books.
Sure, more that she's a source of magic knowledge because of her books.
My bet is a strong social resistance in the village, but with youkai and humans becoming closer - to the point that known youkai will come in to buy things (not always with appropriate currency) - that seems as though it wouldn't be as big an obstacle anymore.
>>46229588
>My bet is a strong social resistance in the village, but with youkai and humans becoming closer - to the point that known youkai will come in to buy things (not always with appropriate currency) - that seems as though it wouldn't be as big an obstacle anymore.
There are already youkai who come to the village to buy things. PMiSS mentions it in a few places - they mostly do it at night.
>>46229537
We don't really know. There's always been a lot of fanon shit around Alice.
>>46229171
I want to kill Mokou!
>>46229686
Yuuka probably comes in broad daylight just to be a douche.
Does she even need flower seeds? Can't she just get them herself?
>>46229728
>>46229728
I'd settle for making her diethe little death
>>46229801
...that artist really seems to like castration.
>>46229949
>>46230148
It's a euphemism. It might actually be French.
>>46230241
>>46230148
French. Le Petite Mort (The little death) It means female orgasm.
>>46222865
B7t she has some levels in theif,or at least kelptomania as a flaw.
>>46228694
>filename
What is the other one?
>>46230258
>female orgasm.
just any orgasm.
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>>46230382
Gas the rabbits, moon war now
>>46230460
>>46230506
I like the way you think
Okay /tg/ entertain me for a minute.
How does "Danmaku" work again? I forgot.
I remember its something about magic/spirit power being used to simulate beauty-- As proof that they're not fighting. But how do they "power" it, again?
>>46230899
Anyone have the Touhou Shaming pic? "I tried to eat the sun." "I knew and didn't tell mom"?
And is that the only one or are there more?
>>46230899
Basically it's a system of magic put in place to put everyone on equal ground and make sure that they don't cause too much collateral damage.
As for HOW it works, it's vague beyond that everyone carries physical spell cards with them that describe the attacks.
>>46230899
It works the same as magic does in conventional fantasy settings. People have magical power that they use to shoot magic out in the form of laser beams or fireballs or what have you.
>I remember its something about magic/spirit power being used to simulate beauty-- As proof that they're not fighting.
I think it's more that danmaku battles eschew the most effective attacks in favour of stylish ones, the idea being it's more civilized that way. It's just a justification for why so many attacks seem to be more flashy than effective at actually killing the player.
>>46230923
>>46230988
>>46230995
C'mon, I'm sure danmaku has been explained canonically.
>>46231144
We don't talk about SSiB.
![gfs_87370_2_151[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Y7pdXjM.jpg "gfs_87370_2_151[1].jpg")
>>46231144
Danmaku is a game mechanic. The only canon information about it is that it's a specifically nonlethal form of conflict resolution where beauty is valued more highly than ruthless effectiveness.
It doesn't seem like there's any reason a Touhou character couldn't turn up the power on their lasers and actually roast someone.
>>46231253
There is a reason why they don't just kill each other with impossible-to-dodge patterns: Reimu and everyone else beholden to the rules will come down on your ass and exterminate you for breaking a covenant.
>>46231326
I'm speaking mechanically.
>>46231253
>It doesn't seem like there's any reason a Touhou character couldn't turn up the power on their lasers and actually roast someone.
It's against the rules. 2hus are too powerful to wantonly go around killing each other. It also allows for confrontation between two parties drastically different in power levels.
>>46231253
Also, lives and bombs are just an abstraction. Officially, both sides of a spell card duel are fighting in the same way.
>>46231374
I'm speaking mechanically.
Gensokyo would really go to hell if the spell card system dissolved.
>>46231370
>>46231412
Yes, mechanically as well.
>>46231370
>>46231412
I was asking non-mechanically, dork.
>>46231370
That wouldn't make for a fun game then would it?
>>46231452
Anon wanted to know what the underlying forces of danmaku were, I told him there weren't any and it's just regular old magic but set to stun instead of kill. There is no mechanical reason behind it, it's mutual consent and public consensus not to kill people in a fight.
>>46231437
Fight me, dudester.
![6b22f4f8fa62a7722a923c36980f7d2a[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/96kZfvj.gif "6b22f4f8fa62a7722a923c36980f7d2a[1].gif")
>>46231326
On the contrary, when someone DOES break the rules they get away with it and beat everyone who comes after her the fuck down.
This was the plot of one entire game.
>>46231433
The spell card system is pretty recent though - it's only been around since the SDM showed up in Gensokyo.
Because Gensokyo relies a lot on unwritten rules, but Remilia is a KY gaijin who thought that meant she could do whatever she wanted. She's the only power player who needs an actual contract to tell her what she can and can't do, and even then she broke it in EoSD.
>>46217859
A Touhou one.
That's it. Nothing more. Time to move on.
>>46231710
well yeah, it's easy when you're seija
to paraphrase her father shadow the hedgehog, "she's the coolest"
>>46231710
On the contrary, Seija never used impossible-to-dodge spellcards, she merely caused an Incident, and then tried to escape punishment for it afterwards.
The people who went after her purportedly used undodgeable cards, as she was a rebel, and therefore outside the protection of the spellcard rules, but Amanojaku is technically clearable without the use of items.
