Vampire aggro is a meme deck, Briarbridge-Journal is a viable combo, it sucks that we're losing 4-color support from KTK and the new handlands are shit.
Discuss.
>>46159547
I like it so far.
So far, three regions of cryptolith puzzle posters have been revealed. Japan, Brazil, and possibly North America.
it doesn't suck, the colors should matter, when you can just run anything you want they might as well not fucking bother with specific costs for cards.
colors not mattering is how we got "Siege Rhino and his 71 other value card friends"
>>46159547
I'm holding out on more cool zombie stuff. Hopefully a legendary thing.
>>46159547
>Handlands
>shit
>can drop on turn 1 with no drawbacks
With this Russian poster, 4. I think that's all of them.
>>46159547
>briarbridge-journal
>viable
viable for what, standard?
>>46159711
Conditionally.
>>46159717
Spain and Japan are the same
>>46159719
It's bait.
>>46159744
I know. I'm just saying, Russia was the missing piece.
>>46159734
Anon if you don't have at least two lands in your opening hand you have bigger problems
>>46159717
what does it meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean
>>46159711
they're better early in the game, battle lands are better late game, but both require the use of basics to be most effective, decreasing crazy land bases and 4+colour decks
>>46159717
If this was /v/ I'd be wondering how long there was before a loss edit happened. Fortunately, we aren't there, so I don't have to wonder.
I'm not sure what the cyptoliths could be though.
>>46159717
Can someone super-impose these one another? Maybe they form words.
>>46159717
Just great, even more herons
Fuck me these niggers just said we need the posters from every single language MTG prints cards in.
>>46159547
>vampires a meme
No
>Briarbridge being combo
>Nope
>muh rainbowmagikz
Triplenope
>new lands are bad
Nopedynope
Glad we had this discussion, OP.
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/711973562811174912
How many languages is that?
>>46159857
RB vampire aggro is a deck that builds itself and WotC has been pumped out card after card for it.
Of course it's a meme deck.
>>46159547
>Vampire aggro is a meme deck
I swear you keep starting these threads just to force this meme. You sound pretty mad about tribal getting some decent cards.
>>46159857
great comment.
The new lands are just mediocre.
>>46159865
10: chinese, english, french, japanese, korean, russian, spanish, italian, german, portuguese
>>46159857
>Deck that has all of the pieces sitting there in plain sight for every chucklefuck to see
>Anything but a meme deck
Have fun jerking off with your SyNeRgY
>>46159806
This is exactly what I was thinking
>>46159717
I hope this isn't some "nerdy" reference shit like the konami code or something.
>>46159717
Clearly all clock directions. Go from there.
>english
2, 4, 10, 7
>german
3, 5, 10, 7
>japan
2, 3, 8, 9
>russia
1, 5, 2, 11
>spain
2, 3, 8, 9
>>46159889
>>46159985
>It's so obvious! It must be a meme!
Are you seriously suggesting that every successful tribal deck in the past was some intelligent homebrew that noone expected?
Does this mean Goblins, Elves (excluding the combo builds which were admittedly a little weird) and Merfolk are all memes too?
If it's easier to accept in your headcannon then by all means, but unlike previous tribe attempts (Warriors and Allies for example), Vampires are pretty much universal and will have plenty to draw from in the next block also.
>>46160103
We should check the time zones and see if we can find a precise time
>>46159717
Looks like pen strokes. Following the directions in the arrows, I read "promo" on that order.
If there are going to be 40 of these cryptoliths we can just toss out duplicates, right?
>>46160154
You might be on to something.
Do we know what the release promo is?
There could be a singular prerelease promo as well.
That would be 6 letters left, one for each poster.N A H I R I
>Sin Prodder
Oh dang. Not sure how I feel about this thing.
On the one hand, it can be a second draw each turn.
On the other, it gives your opponent a LOT of control over your draw and that can kill you.
>>46160154
It makes sense, they said the prize for solving this is some art spoiler iirc
>>46160305
It doesn't stop your draws. Read the fucking card.
>>46160154
>>46160288
>>46160333
The release promo is Angel of Deliverance
And we already know the promo art
>>46160334
>It doesn't stop your draws.
Perhaps first you should try reading my post. I'd love to see where I mentioned this.
>>46160288
Emeria also fits.
Promo emrakul?
>>46160425
Then how the fuck would you explain this line?
>On the other, it gives your opponent a LOT of control over your draw and that can kill you.
How the FUCK can giving your opponent control over -additional- draw kill you?
have all the mythics been spoiled?
>>46160305
>On the other, it gives your opponent a LOT of control over your draw and that can kill you.
>your draw
He doesn't do anything to your normal draw, he's all upside.
>>46160288
Promo markov?
11 posters; Simplified and Traditional Chinese are separate.
>>46160493
Because it lets them choose whether or not you get it. That is, by definition, control over your draw.
And that's ignoring the situational implications of that.
>>46160523
But it only lets them choose on additional draw. Playing that card figuratively cannot make you die faster. It just limits the upside of this card.
>>46160305
>Untap
>Upkeep
>Draw
>Main
Is the old /tg/ is bad at magic still a fresh meme?
>>46159793
You can reveal Battles for Handos. The more you know!
>>46160305
If this guy reveals a topdeck you needed and your opponent mills it it's unfortunate, but situations like this are not that big of a downside. Your deck works like a RNG, instead of a good card it could have been another land for all you know. Renouncing the value this card could give you in a midrange/control deck, at least in standard, only because you could possibly maybe in theory lose a topdeck sometimes (and still getting a consolation burn out of it) is plain stupid.
>>46160507
No. Green hasn't had a single mythic spoiled yet
>>46160363
Oh right. It's so bad. The ONLY redeeming quality is that it only has to deal damage as opposed to combat damage.
>>46160644
Gitrog Toad is still out there
>>46160667
Gitrog Toad is a placeholder for Marit Lage.
Favorite mythic so far?
Least favorite mythic?
Also post any speculations on value and the most likely to be chase.
>>46160802
Startled Awake, because I like mill spells.
>>46160802
Nahiri. I don't usually chase planeswalkers, but I think I'm gonna chase this one
>>46160802
I think Mindwrack Demon will actually be an amazing beatstick. Can't be that hard to get the 4 card types in the graveyard, especially since he's already helping you out with his own ability.
>>46159717
Why would Japan and spain cryptolith be the same? It rules out a hour or geographical clue at least.
>>46160856
Yeah this. Gonna be an expensive standard season
>>46160802
>Favorite mythic so far?
Relentless Dead
>Least favorite mythic?
Geralf's Masterpiece
>>46160802
I think THE chase mythic will be Relentless Dead, but Olivia will be close because RBx madness vampires has some serious potential in standard.
>>46160119
>will have plenty to draw from in the next block also.
Ι didn't know MaRo posted here. Or maybe you are retarded and are talking out of your ass since we don't know what the next block will be.
>>46160802
Hyped for weremilf, Behold the Beyond and Wolf are utter shit and will never see play even in kitchen table decks.
>>46160802
Relentless Dead.
By far, it has insane value.
>>46160802
Arlinn is my favorite.
Mindwrack is shit.
>>46160906
>memedeck has potential
ok
>>46160939
Why is BR Vampire a memedeck again ?
>>46160802
>favorite
Relentless Dead.
>chase
Arlinn Kord, not even close. I expect this card to see Modern play.
>>46160684
B-but.. Muh toad commander..
>>46160911
>we have no way of knowing that a baseline creature type for a color will be present in the following set
I kind of like the new lands, but why did they only spoil the allied colored ones?
They said before Khans that they would stop printing half-cycles of lands. I swear to Christ if they pull that "except this time" like they did with fetches I'm going tobe upset and maybe mention it to a friend of mine next time we're talking about spoilers
>>46160956
It's LITERALLY a meme. As in, it being called a "memedeck" is a meme.
>>46160956
It makes itself and plays itself. You could show someone who barely understands the game the cards and they'd see the potential in it. Plus it's the shit everyone's ranting and raving about it and it's the first deck that people will build against.
Everyone will build a BR vampire deck, be crushed and sell it for a tenth of the price they bought it at.
>>46160968
>set=block
What? The OP was talking about the next block not set you double nigger
>>46160911
>Or maybe you are retarded and are talking out of your ass since we don't know what the next block will be
The point was that vampires are very common. Not as common as Elves or Goblins, but you still find them in almost every set with few exceptions. Those exceptions being Theros and Khans (which still had one), but that doesn't matter since you seem to deliberately be missing the point, and will probably cherry pick those sets as counterpoints.
>>46160969
Probably printing the enemy colored lands in EM, if I had to guess.
>>46160969
We don't have enemy battle lands either.
>>46160998
They'd better.
It's bad enough that they're fucking rares again...
>>46160802
>Favorite
Probably Nahiri or Relentless Dead.
>Least favorite
New Jace, easy. They might have been able to make him more boring if they really tried, but it would have been difficult.
>>46160991
>OP was talking about the next block
Try again.
>>46160911 was arguing that vampires will not be showing up in the next block despite being one of the most basic black creature types (barring zombies) to exist.
>>46160922
>all these trannies who keep posting "weremilf"
Unless that means "man I'd like to fuck" you are way off
>>46161019
>The only women I see in my day-to-day life are either 2D or porn stars.
Okay.
>>46160989
>Implying everyone isn't going to make tittymonster control
Thing In the Ice is an even bigger meme than vampires, but noones complaining since it isn't aggro.
>>46160802
How many left?
Relentless Dead looks very powerful.
I like Arlin Kord as a card, but I'm not sure if she'll see any decent play. New Sorin is jank as fuck, but at least does something different from his other version, so I'm cool with that. Everything else goes from "meh" to okay.
>>46161045
Tittymonster isn't as cookie cutter as vampire aggro.
>>46160802
>werewolf/Jace
>demon/doge
>>46160996
What the fuck does the fact that most sets use common tribal types like vampire has to do with anything? There wasn't a merfolk during Theros even tho there were tons of merfolk, there wasn't a goblins deck in Khans despite there being tons of goblins there too.
Since you are clearly new to magic let me help you. The only time tribal decks were a real dominating force was during Lorwyn where there was 3 sets whose sole purpose was to push tribal in a block whose major theme was tribal and hell even then (an now) people bitch about how railroaded deckbuilding was then. But now you think this BW warriors tier deck will somehow be good enough because 1 set has tribal cards (like every set ever) and because "vampire" is a common type??
>>46161064
Because it's tribal, it's literally the point to make it based around one tribe. Tribal has little room for flex slots, but it's not unheard of. INN had BR Zombies which ran Vampire Aristocrat, Hellrider, Knight of Infamy and Thundermaw Hellkite due to their raw efficiency. Those kind of choices will be what seperates the good Vampire decks from the bad ones, but if you think for one minute playing Tittymonster, Jace + Removal.dec makes it any less cookie cutter you're sadly mistaken.
>>46161099
>The only time tribal decks were a real dominating force was during Lorwyn
you could not be more wrong
>>46161099
>What the fuck does the fact that most sets use common tribal types like vampire has to do with anything
Larger card pool, how can you not get this?
>Since you are clearly new to magic let me help you
You throw this baseless assumption out like it means something, I've played this game for roughly 12 years, but I don't feel it was necessary to mention.
>Lorwyn where there was 3 sets whose sole purpose was to push tribal in a block whose major theme was tribal and hell even then (an now) people bitch about how railroaded deckbuilding
We're talking about what is strong anon, not what supports creative special snowflake homebrews.
>BW warriors tier deck will somehow be good enough because 1 set has tribal cards
Right now that's a quarter of Standard, soon to be about a third. However you seem to have missed the fact that Kalitas sees a fair amount of play, and Kaalia is a good card that is missing a home.
>>46161157
>he didn't play during first Innistrad
with Zombies and Humans
>>46161112
Even the non-creature spells you play for vampire aggro give themselves away. I'll agree that there will be BR vampire decks which are genuinely good but the basic deck that everyone is oohing and aahing about is the madness-based aggro meme deck.
Just saw the spoilers and I am really digging that devil. I'd like to try a Sligh deck this Standard with that Delirium devil and other arsonist devils for inevitability. Might top my curve with Dance With Devils, I honestly think that that card is playable if you push as aggressively as you can.
Also trying to make it a budget deck in the spirit of RDW, though I may splurge on the Abbotts. I wouldn't mind having a set to hold onto
>>46161267
>I'll agree that there will be BR vampire decks which are genuinely good but the basic deck that everyone is oohing and aahing about is the madness-based aggro meme deck.
It's one of the few aggro concepts that could easily run Lightning Axe to counter Tittymonster in the maindeck. Given how much people are buying into that card I feel that reason alone will make it a force to be reckoned with.
Even if you don't get the Falkenrath Gorger synergy, a lot of vampires come packed with flying and/or haste anyway.
>>46161309
>a Sligh deck
>Delirium devil
>Might top my curve with Dance With Devils
>3 drops
The word you are looking for is Aggro or RDW, not sligh. A sligh deck's curve ends at 2
>>46159547
>No fourcolorgoodstuff
>a bad thing
I for one welcome a return to a sane manabase as everything else descends into Madness.
>>46161328
I'll agree that Thing in the Ice is pretty jank in its own way and it's unlikely to see constructed play just due to people building against it.
Once standard has settled after the first three weeks, vampire aggro and tittymonster will both be non-existent but with people still struggling to make them viable, just like with BW warriors.
>>46161342
Right, I know I'm pushing things by considering a 4-drop and I'm trying to run a higher curve on the whole by pushing the Goblin Arsonist theme.
But doesn't a Sligh occasionally run 3-drops to top their curve? In Standard at least? Exquisite Firecraft seems like an obvious choice.
>>46161099
Holy shit Faeries
>>46161385
Right now, Savannah Lions is exactly what's needed to threaten Jace. Even a janky White Weenie deck I made months ago put them on tilt due to the amount of free damage I could score early on, due to them wanting to protect their precious walker.
>>46161342
This is standard. Sligh with a higher curve is expected.
>>46160802
>favorite
tossup between Behold the Beyond or Geralf's Masterpiece
>least favorite/most disappointing
Jace, One Who Does Nothing
>>46159744
That's racist
>>46161385
It's a control card, the people ruining it are the idiots who think they're going to storm flip it in a turn.
>>46161404
Just call it Mono Red Aggro if you must.
>>46161099
Haha, Onslaught
>>46159717
>slivers
>>46160802
I wanna get Sorin. Don't give much of a shit about the remaining mythics. Maybe Behold the Beyond to tutor up some combo in EDH.
>>46161597
Putting into play is not casting.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW.
Jeeeesus fucking christ, the end is coming and it's going to fucking hit like a rock.
>>46161597
>Whenever you cast
It was a nice thought, but sadly Bygone doesn't give you a new clue.
They both will be in the same deck either way though, assuming you keep the creature curve at 3 cmc, allowing you to also run CoCo.
>>46161616
Knew it was too good to be true, needed to actually fucking read the card.
Nevermind me, I'm an idiot.
>>46161597
You're not just wrong, you're stupid
>>46161597
Putting a creature token into play isn't the same as casting a creature spell. Bishop wouldn't trigger.
>>46161618
run him in that new mono-red eldrazi list that Kent Ketter was running at Indianapolis and give your opponent the option of taking 6 off a chandra or letting you have it.
Man, Handlands are shit? I must be retarded, I interpreted them as some of the best duals ever printed. After all, they don't say basic mountain or forest.
>>46161618
This is a fun card and somewhat creative.
>>46161664
I think literally every midrange'y deck that runs red will play that card.
>>46161635
I'm just trying to figure out a way to bust clues wide open, without resorting the borderline-unplayable Briarbridge Patrol and Tamiyo's Journal combo.
It needs more cheap artifact sac outlets for standard play.
>>46161664
This is literally a card as good as Dark Confidant.
Even better if your deck is filled with Flashback or Delirium stuff.
THAT will break standard. And this is not a little assertion. Let that shit live and you lose. Because you lose in every situation. Even if you hit a land, the guy either says " okay, get one more land to fix your mana " or the guy says " okay, filter your deck even more and I'll allow you to get possible delirium now that fetches are gone ".
This little dude will kill your games. I wouldn't be surprised to see him in Jund too. This card is literally fucking insane.
>>46161772
>This is literally a card as good as Dark Confidant.
I have got to stop coming into these threads.
>>46161772
dies to removal and its not a bob in any way lmao
>>46161739
The simple answer is to not rely on the janky combos and just spend your clues when you have spare mana.
You'll most likely be playing an aggro/midrange game until you stall, then when nothing is going on you can regain card advantage.
>Vampires get a deck build for them by Wizards
>Zombies get a 2/2 titan that requires zombies to be in the graveyard alongisde a mythic zombie that should never be in your graveyard
Wew lad, they really phoned in all the other tribes didn't they?
I think pic related is going to see at with all these clues. Run a bunch of mana dorks, clue enablers like Tracker and Bishop, Grid, and maybe even Second Harvest.
>>46160976
>>46160989
Faeries was also a deck that built itself.
>>46161772
The card is dark confidant just as Steam Augry was Fact or Fiction.
However it is attached to very good body (what red deck would want anyway) and with proper deckbuilding will let you be pretty dangerous for your opponent.
>>46161597
Mate. Left one specifies "nontokens", ad tokens don't etb so right one doesn't trigger.
>>46161618
He's kind of a red Bob, so I'll call him Rob.
He's not even near as powerful, but then again, hardly anything ever is.
>>46160969
I am pretty sure they meant for casual mtg and limited, i.e. common and uncommon duals. Notice how they have been printing 10 of those much more often?
They still want to have sort of control over the archetypes in Standard.
>>46161858
There's no clues is red. You'd be relying on other colors for clues and what would you even be using red for? Besides the grid, that is.
>>46161618
Store is selling those at $6 right now. And elusive tormentors for $1. Buy?
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-preview/basic-lands-shadows-over-innistrad-2016-03-21
All basic lands.
>>46161977
UR artifacts with thopter shit to complement.
>>46161851
Oh yeah, RB gets an aggressive deck and UB gets a durdle fest, shocking.
Come on, man.
>>46162025
Is it bad that this is the first spoiler I've actually liked?
>>46162051
That's probably the sign you should at least give magic a short break, this spoiler season is quite good so far.
>>46161977
Basically what >>46162034 said. You get the thopter guys, notably Pia/Kiran.
I think GR is a detonate inclusion, and the 3rd color is a toss. I between U and W. An argument can be made for WUR as well.
>>46162051
What >>46162072 said, I got burned out during Theros, took a break from from MTG during Tarkir. Now I'm pretty excited for this spoiler season again.BFZ was shit though
>>46161858
there's also Pia and Kiran and the other thopter generators.
>>46162025
Almost entirely reprints. Booooring.
Let's hope Eldritch Moon makes them cooler.
Say what you will about AVR ruining the flavor, the lands in it are gorgeous compared to Innistrad's samey gloominess. Fucking NPH, Time Spiral, Innistrad, Shadowmoor made it so half of any basic lands I find are some blurry darkness. Though, I always loved the graveyard swamp.
>>46161618
I admit to being a bit nonplussed.
Most of the time it will play out like it reads: "Play with the top of your library revealed. if the card represents more damage then it's mana cost, put it into your graveyard and do damage equal to it's mana cost while your opponent hopes you draw into a land."
Burn and anything that runs cost efficient threats won't get much from it. while decks that care about cards in the graveyard will never have an opponent choose to mill you.
So, it's seems a 3/2 menace for 3 with an irrelevant ability.
Genuinely, What am I missing here?
>>46161431
>>46161342
I hope both of you are aware that the original Boss Sligh was a "standard" deck
>>46161772
You will never get land unless your opponent doesn't want your delirium trigger online.
>>46162190
The fact that that graveyard deck is now either getting stuff in the grave or drawing an extra card every turn, you dingus
>>46162177
Exactly.
Also had a retarded idea.
>make a bunch of clues and thopters
>tap all artifacts down to grid
>end of opponents 2nd main
>Eerie Interlude my token makers
>eot
>Declaration in stone all my non artifact creatures
>tap for more damage
>my turn cast Second Harvest
>tap for jank damage
>>46162025
>best swamp art re-remade
I am incredibly aroused right now
>>46162278
You and me both, anon,
>>46161772
>this card is as good as Dark Confidant
Please stop playing magic. Dark Confidant guarantees the draw, and in decks where you run him, the life loss isn't a big deal.
he's also two mana and not three, and thus comes online quicker, and gives you guaranteed gas instead of "maybe" what you need.
>>46162190
>Extra card draw or direct damage every turn the top card isn't a land
>irrelevant
>>46162190
The fact your opponent gets to choose if you get the extra card or not is relatively irrelevant: you wouldn't be getting it to begin with anyway if you hadn't this fairly price 3/2 Menace creature on the board to begin with, and if they decide to not allow you to have it they might still end up getting some damage because of it.
Every turn you get small, but relevant, card advantage or the possibility of direct damage to your opponent for basically free. It's no bob, but Rob can be quite good especially if you have ways to use cards in your graveyard (flashback, snapcaster, etc.).
>>46162412
It's not really irrelevant, but it's also not enough to make you lose your mind over its power. The fact that you lose the card to the graveyard is pretty relevant as well, since red usually isn't using its graveyard as an extension of it's hand, and largely uses it to feed Lavamancer.
It'll make its way into standard because it's a good body for the mana with a good ability on top, but I can't see it in modern.
>>46162253
1) The opponent can only choose where you put the card of the extra draw accorded by the prodder capacity, you still get your normal draw step
2) Aggro deck don't need a lot of land so it's not such a big drawback.
The card could you make you miss a topdeck, but so can do mill. It's a good card in a aggro deck.
>>46162477
I really think midrange decks are the one that will like the card much more.
>>46162379
Actually the life loss is always a big deal for dark confidant decks
Drawing an extra card guaranteed is just so good that it makes up for the life loss
The reason dark confidant is bad in the current modern meta is the life loss
The new guy is definitely not better than dark confidant but, it's all in the fact that it's not guaranteed extra draw
>>46162477
I'm well aware of all that I was responding to the assertion of
>Even if you hit a land, the guy either says " okay, get one more land to fix your mana " or the guy says " okay, filter your deck even more and I'll allow you to get possible delirium now that fetches are gone ".
There is no choose to filter component as that extra cad is always going somewhere, I actually like it a lot it's nice to see red get more nice things I hope it sees the Top 8 lots.
>>46162503
It's a card that raise you chance to draw something useful when you are in topdeck mode or turn the card in damage. Aggro decks will like it because it will allow them to deal the last few damages they need to end the game because of prodder ability and/or because it allowed them to draw the card they need.
>>46162503
Wizards is trying to push red to the higher CMC side for this Standard with things like Rob, Pia and Kiran, Dankmemes Goblins and Fat Chandra, which are all good cards that are more attuned to midrange strategies, but I can see Rob being viable at least as a curve topper or sideboard alternative against control decks even in a very agressive red. But what do I know, I'm bad at Magic.
Rob seems like he's the answer White-Red Boros has been looking for as far as draw-engines go.
>>46162728
>Fat Chandra
>picturing Chandra with a phat whooty
>>46162829
Who the hell is rob
>>46162895
Red bob
duh
Wait I don't get it.
With Avacyn going psycho skynet, aren't wolfir also 'evil'?
>>46162938
It is even in one of flavours that only one tribe (or however you call them) of wolfir managed to stay sane.
>>46162869
>>46162728
Got you covered senpai.
>>46162268
Naya Clues, my body is ready for you
>>46162971
Jesus christ america, get it together.
Port town art
>>46163031
That skeleton pose looks like he is pleasuring himself.
>>46159717
Shouldn't they form the same circle as the one in the shipyard cards if you put them alongside each other to form a circle?
>>46162934
Oh that card is awful
>>46163077
It is not bob
It is also not awful
It is good, maybe even modern good
Is there an acronym for the 'when you cast ~' mechanic? Since it seems to slowly but surely be replacing ETB. Some in the design team must really have it out for reanimator or other decks that cheat creatures into play.
>>46160523
No, it is by definition, control over an additional draw.
Your normal draw of the turn is untouched.
>>46163100
Not that guy, but I think we can't tell if it's good until we see some decks. The fact that your opponent chooses makes the effect seem bad, though it's another positive to an already quite good body.
>>46163100
>maybe even modern good
Come on now. This wouldn't be true a year ago let alone now.
>>46162938
Silverfur Partisan's text says some of the Wolfir are holding steady.
>>46163067
Okay, but what does that mean?
I play casually and have no interest in tourneys.
I own ONE kid Jace who's sitting at around $85 right now.
Since he isn't viable as a 1-of (I'm assuming) I'd like to trade him to my shop in exchange for something fun when SOI drops (either a booster box or singles.)
I have a werewolves casual deck that could use Arlinn. Do you guys think she's playset worthy when I have 4 Huntmasters or maybe a 3-of? What do you guys predict about her price at release?
>>46163100
It's not modern good. Please stop
What deck would ever want this card that wouldn't just run bob
>>46163147
Sin Prodder is literally the answer Eldrazi need.
>>46163129
It is mainly for Eldrazi or things that need it to work.
I usually say "on cast".
>>46163189
Top bait
>>46163142
It's an efficiently costed attacker with lots of upside. It's a perfect curve topper in burn decks, and will see play in them if the meta moves away from blistering speed linearity, to give the burn deck some reach.
Is someone screencapping every sin prodder naysayer? I don't want to repeat work if yes.
>>46163129
WotC overdid it on the ETB effects. Not only do they make blink cards too good, but now control players are even thinking of using counterspells.
On Cast solves both problems goy.
>>46163247
If you are going to do screencapping then also cap the people saying that RB vamps is going to be competative.
>>46163277
In GATE/INN Standard? Probably not. But they'll be viable in limited.
>>46163247
I am screencapping both sides so that no matter which side is right I get to look superior.
>>46163247
I don't bother screencapping everytime someone on /tg/ says something contrarian or stupid because of the anonymous nature of the image board they suffer zero consequences from being wrong.
>>46163187
It's for a deck with higher-cost cards, and delve cards. Still not that good.
>>46163314
I don't know,fairy type revealthreads were really entertaining to read afterwards.
SPECULATION
>>46161618
Fine for Standard. In Modern (at least once Eldrazi finally gets nerfed into oblivion) decks will usually either be running the most efficient cards for the job or they'll really want their few 3cmc+ cards because they either enable a combo or have such insane value.
A card that turns a Bolt or Path into 1 damage and keeps you off your own combo at your opponent's choice is a bad card.
>>46159547
What do you mean by it's a "meme" deck exactly?
>>46163330
It's amazing with delve actually.
>>46163360
Just that mill is powerful because it makes you lose potential draws, yeah?
>>46163378
>>46161004
They'll always be rare, you fucking idiot.
>>46162469
>The fact your opponent gets to choose if you get the extra card or not is relatively irrelevant:
>you wouldn't be getting it to begin with anyway
you suck at evaluating and at logic in general
you would have gotten the card the next turn
so it does make a huge difference and is far from being irrelevant
Latern is a deck because it does matter a fucking lot what you draw
basically you can't play this card whenever you need something
>you need lands
too bad let me mill this for you
>you need answers
let me just Thoughtseize you in your upkeep for free
this card just works if taking damage or you drawing the card ends up being the same in which case I just assume the game is already in your favor, which we all know is just: win more
in any other scenario you are making your opponents deck into "pay life to play Lantern control"
>>46160856
Why is this card good?
>>46163360
Bolt is useless in today's meta though. Murderous Cut/Dismember are the cards of choice, and work great with the shit plopper.
Meanwhile, it doesn't cost you anything, because you still draw a card as normal.
People saying that sin prodder is bad because it makes you lose cards are LITERALLY as bad as card games as hearthstone kiddies when Fel Reaver got revealed.
>>46163184
Anyone?
Call the Bloodline
1B
Enchantment
1, Discard a card: Put a 1/1 black Vampire knight token with lifelink onto the battlefield. Activate this ability only once per turn.
As if im not sold on vamps already
>>46163475
Oh look, not-bitterblossom.
>>46161739
Bant CoCo. Clues aren't going to do anything by themselves, they're incremental advantage whenever you have leftover mana in a turn.
Bishop will net you clues every turn or two, and end of turn you can cash them in, since after turn five or so you shouldn't need to do anything at sorcery speed.
>>46163434
You're an idiot if you think an unknown card on top of your deck has any meaning to the game. Lantern is good because he can control exactly what you're drawing. Sin Prodder only lets the opponent "control" your extra draw, not your normal one.
>>46163352
GET HELP
>>46160802
Green always has my favorite mythics, outside of anything playable in my modern decks, so nothing is really catching my eye yet.
>>46160802
>Favorite
Relentless Dead, he's gonna be real fun and brings some new game to zombie tribal.
>Least favorite
Mindwrack Demon-I could see him being a decent first pull in a draft, but outside of that I can't see myself ever using him.
>>46160802
I'm really liking the new olivia. She meets every criteria I have for an EDH deck:
>relevant ability with interesting applications
>cheap mana cost
>red
>black
>>46163184
>>46163471
Arlin Kord is a decent toolbox planeswalker, but no way in hell it won't drop in price 4-5 weeks after official release. I would wait. I don't think she's good enough to be a 4 of either, she'll never straight up steal games in your favor, she's a slow, steady, value engine.
As for selling/trading Baby Jace I would wait a few more weeks as well, he's going to spike even harder when people see him in action with Madness.
>>46163581
>Arlin Kord is a decent toolbox planeswalker,
>Toolbox
Yet more people using terms they don't understand
>>46163488
It won't accidentally kill you like bitter blossom, and you can use it in your opponent's turn for a chump blocker and gain 1 life
Have they not revealed any GY hate cards?
What do you guys think about Mindwrack Demon? Black White control shell with Sorin and Anguished.. Thinking a light splash of white and playing sweepers and spot removal like Languish/Ultimate Price. Just need a reliable way to gain life
>>46163619
still 2-3 classes worse
>>46163640
Hidden Dragonslayer?
>>46163581
Ty for the input.
I'll make her a 2-of since Huntmaster remains a 4-of imo.
Yeah I can see Jace, the Comeback Kid spiking with madness.
>>46163619
And then you can use it again on your turn, right?
>>46163640
Kalitas dies to languish but a pretty good option despite that.
>>46163736
Yup.
>>46163728
Still gonna be pissed if by the end of Eldritch Moon it turns out Jace took Tamyio's printing.
>>46163640
Kalitas and Shambling Vents.
>>46163506
What makes people think three-color will be playable in standard after the rotation?
Red Eldrazi seems like it'll be king of the meta come rotation, which will likely crater the prices of SOI. I'd suggest holding off on buying any singles for a couple weeks
>>46163352
NO BREATHING
>>46163830
Alot of folks were speculating on Jace going mad and turning B/U with a mono U Tamiyo on Innistrad.
Now that we know Jace is still a boringbro, maybe Tamiyo will be B/U????
Putting this on a Geist is kinda hilarious.
>>46163153
It straight up says the Silverfurs are the last Wolfir
>>46163944
Tamiyo will be UR after being maddened by Tibalt's dick
>>46163955
Jesus christ, it doesn't even give hexproof
>>46163955
Holy shite!
>>46163985
That's why you put it on something that already has Hexproof.
>>46163955
Massage Geist.
>>46163985
>reprinting Geist in its entirety at rare
>>46163955
>paying the same amount of mana for the same effect
>no hexproof
>no 2/2 body to go with it.
Come on now.
>>46163955
Neato. Now I can play Thunderclap Wyvern and other flying stuff and slap this on it in a UW shell.
>>46163640
I don't think mindwrack demon is that great at the moment. If we get more ways to fill the grave for delirium, then maybe, but 4 life a turn isn't worth it just for a 4 drop with flample
>>46163955
Limited all-star right here
>>14017231
>>46163985
We already have a deck for that
>>46163955
Slap this on Insidious Mist
Why do you nerds even care which cards are good and which aren't?
99% of you are just going to netdeck anyway
>>46164035
>>46163985
>wanting more wonderously interactive hexproof cards.
Fuck off back to hearthstone.
>>46163944
I wouldn't buy into the suspicion but Jace, the Seventh's ultimate is off a Kamigawa card.
Hope that don't fuck up my Waifu by making her go mad.
>>46163955
I want to stick this on a geist and get 2 angels
>>46164144
Free money if you can guess which ones are good before other people do.
>>46164131
>Running this in bogles
You better be baiting because if you aren't that would mean you are retarded.
>>46164149
...the joke is that hearthstone is much more interactive than mtg?
I dont get it.
>>46163955
Gets tutored by Zur I guess?
>>46164175
It's much quicker and responsive due to being entirely digital. I think they tried making a IRL paper version, but took about half an hour to set up.
>>46164245
>I think they tried making a IRL paper version
You think wrong. They lean hard into the game being digital only. Cards like Piloted Shredder would be impossible in a physical card game.
