What up fellow fa/tg/uys? Let's open some sealed magic product!
Tonight will be tournament decks for Invasion, Mirrodin, and Mirage. Tournament decks have 3 rares, 10 uncommons, and then like twenty some commons and lands each, for a total of 75 cards. Except with really old sets like Mirage which only has 60. In those they have 3 rares, 9 uncommons, and the rest commons and land iirc.
I don't just charge to the rares, I read each card and pull out what ones I think are playable for my EDH binder. So updates will be slow.
Let's begin!
Goods for the whole weekend. The other 3 are for tomorrow.
Let's start with Invasion.
Really old sets don't come inner sleeved! This is where you have to really trust your supplier. Try local baseball card stores. Those guys specialize in sealed product.
Contents.
Iirc the rares and uncommons are under the rules insert, commons under the lands.
The lands I liked best. The plains is AMAZING. The island is fun and tropical. Reminds me of the NES game star tropics.
And a foil swamp!
It's OK, haha.
Rules insert.
The commercial.
A survey.
is OP dead?
Survey 2.
Now for the commons!
The commons.
And the cards that are probably terrible, but I'd still try to play in EDH anyways.
The uncommons.
Bottom left are the ones I maybe would play. Didn't really fall in love with any of these!
>>46102275
>StarTropics
OP, you have excellent taste.
>>46102275
I love these lands, bless you OP
And junk rares.
Although psychic battle might be neat for an all random effect EDH deck. Does that even exist? Because I would probably try to make one.
>>46103169
Yeah Invasion aren't renown for having good rares. I think the 3 color dragons are your best bet?
>>46103082
Ooo good one!
I've kind of been thinking lately that all the full art foil BFZ lands I've bought lately were a suckers bet. These old lands have such better art!
>>46103169
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/commander-clash-darien-sydri-kalemne-and-starke
The starke list is a pretty budget option for just all out random shenanigans
>>46102067
You sure? There are videos of people opening Alpha packs and the like, and they're sealed.
Next up, Mirrodin!
>>46103313
I think so for this set at least? To be fair, my research was to watch one random YouTube invasion opening.
Contents, with a foil land right on top!
Do you know the art for which card the cover for the mirage pack is?
>>46103487
It's Ivory Charm
>>46102915
hey armadillo cloak is a pretty gud card
Mirrodin had the worst Plains :(
The lands, with my favorite from each color.
That's also the color order I sort my cards in every time. Red can't touch green, because the green will catch on fire, so you need blue to keep the two at bay. White goes furthest away from black.
Rules.
>>46103169
Psychic Battle seems like a fun card for an EDH deck.
Combine it with Sensei's Divining Top and Kozilek, and you can just continually change the targets of spells, juggling him back a card or two whenever you're going to draw cards.
>>46103731
>Mirrodin had the worst lands
Fix'd.
>>46103883
I'm seriously considering it for my Ink-Treader Nephilim deck now.
Commercial.
>>46103964
>you're the BEST MAGIC player in your house
You're god damn right I am.
So this card is pretty straightforward.
Ah yes, the classic under boob. Pretty sure that's a fetish now. Thanks internet!
>>46104045
Mirrodin was definaetly the weirdest block in terms of general power level and art design.
>>46104148
>now
>>46103066
lobotomy was pretty dope at the time
The commons and cards I would try to play in EDH. These would all make the maybe board at the very least.
>>46103169
Invasion block was actually a pretty noticeable jump in power for the game, especially after Prophecy, which probably had someworse design choices in the game.
>>46104389
>sunbeam spellbomb
>great furnace
>disciple of the vault
nice
>>46104246
Why did only some of the mana symbols in the text box of cards have no color?
Uncommons. Bottom row is stuff I would play.
Bottle gnomes is some sweet art!
>>46104636
>wouldn't play icy manipulator
dude
The rares. Extraplanar Lens!
I'd probably play Vendalken in an artifact/equipment EDH deck which I'm now thinking I might build.
And the set art card. Neato!
>>46104636
Wow, jelly with that Wall of Blood. It's so hard to find where I am.
Congrats with the Greaves
>>46104553
Not really sure. This was the first time they used that card frame so maybe that had something to do with it.
>>46104553
artifacts, maybe?
I'd forgotten about that.
>>46104553
They were experimenting with not coloring them because artifact block, I think. They ended up giving up on the decision before the block was over because it made shit hard to read.
>>46102596
Fill it out and send it in.
And now, Mirage!
>>46105051
>*disgonbegood.gif*
>>46105051
Enjoy your Lion's Eye Diamond.
>>46104926
>>46104966
No there was a fluff reasoning behind it and the same as this guy >>46104964, i forgot what's it all about.
No inner seal again, I hope that's right? Outter seal looks good.
>>46105152
Is lion's eye diamond even useful at all? You get three free mana, but you lose all your other options because you have to throw your hand away.
>>46105163
nah I looked it up. It wasn't fluff, it was a printing error
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirrodin#cite_note-4
>>46105256
Probably use it for a madness deck or something.
>>46105256
holy shit guys LED is pretty much black lotus when used correctly
Contents.
I have no idea what the card order is. I'm assuming rares on the back of the pile.
>>46105256
is this some kind of joke
I was never really into Magic, but I bought and collected a ton of cards when I was younger for the art and ideas they gave me.
This is bringing back good memories, I recognize a lot of these cards. Keep these fuzzy feels comin', OP.
>>46105341
Okay, you get 3 mana, but now your hand size goes from 3-5 to 0. What can you do with 3 floating mana but nothing to use it with besides mana abilities?
>>46105380
master baitor
>>46105380
Activate Belcher, activate Hellbent for Tutor, discard your hand and flashback Faithless Looting. Why do you think it's worth $160?
>>46105380
D R E D G E
R E D G E
E D G E
D G E
G E
E
It's a mini rules book!
Pretty neat, as a rules-weak player, I'll probably read this.
Complete with index. That's handy!
>>46105445
Should we tell him about interrupts?
>>46105445
>interrupts
>batches of effects
I'm happy sixth edition happened.
>>46105256
>>46105380
It's one of those things you have to think outside the box to find a use for.
People claim this is bait but I think you are just used to playing magic on the "cast spell, attack, go" axis.
There's a lot more to it. It's also one of those cards that gets better over time.
>>46105445
Don't read it for rules knowledge, it's basically all incorrect at this point.
If you want to see how things USED to work sure, but it's basically all obsolete now. Interrupts don't exist, there's no such things as 'batches of effects', etc.
>>46105488
Does the banding page explain anything about how it works
I bet OP can't figure out what rarity the cards are because they all have the black expansion symbol.
>>46105537
Definition of banding.
>>46105488
>Limbo
What's that?
>Enduring Renewal, see Loop, Continuous
>Loop, Continuous, see Ornithopter
>Ornithopter, see Fallen Angel
kek
Seriously though I want to try an Enduring Renewal deck in Modern with Hangarback/Endless One and Blood Artist
>>46105504
>banding
>landhome
>mana burn
Stop, my nostalgia penis can only get SO erect.
>>46105504
Learning how to effectively use LED outside of spoonfeeding is a good litmus test for transitioning out of Timmy.
>>46105445
>Phasing
>A permanent with phasing doesn't cause effects entering play to trigger.
>But they cause effects to trigger if it would leave play
>if a permanent phases out it keeps enchantments and counters
>but a token still counts as removed from the game if it's phased out
Stop breaking the game, phasing! I'm sure no one had fun updating that to work.
Page 19, banding.
>>46105601
>Enduring Renewal, see Loop, Continuous
>Loop, Continuous, see Ornithopter
>Ornithopter, see Fallen Angel
>Fallen Angel, see Enduring Renewal
haha oh shit I didn't even notice that the first time, that's fucking hilarious
Page 20, banding continued.
Page 57. More banding.
>>46105418
>>46105413
Okay. So it is a card that's useful if you're playing a specific deck type. Gotcha.
>>46105720
If you're playing like 4 combo decks and dredge, yeah. You know most cards only fit in certain archetypes, right?
>>46105702
Get on with it.monty python skit
>>46105747
Thing is, it's an old card that has no use outside of those 5 decks in limited formats (don't know if modern goes that far back).
![288[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Ar34l0H.jpg "288[1].jpg")
>>46105682
Cool, thanks. I was never sure what happened when banded attackers collided with banded blockers.
Turns out that blockers don't form bands, but so long as one of the blockers has banding (and they're all blocking the same creature or band of creatures) the defending player still gets to decide how damage is dealt to his creatures. Likewise the attacker decides how damage is dealt to his band.
I may have to add Baton of Morale into my Boros EDH deck. I have a couple lying around somewhere and that's a neat utility.
>>46105801
And Karn has no use outside of Tron, are you going to say it's a bad card too?
Lands, with my favorites.
In this set, each artist did all of one color, instead of one of each color.
>>46105801
hey grumpy penis man calm down
>>46105801
please get out
>>46105256
>>46105301
please tell me neither of you are serious
>>46105801
Legacy and Vintage are both more inclusive than any other format. Modern is pretty limited compared to them. Now stop acting dumb.
>>46105903
its obviously bait, otherwise they would have given up magic a while ago and go play Yu gi oh or some shit
So this card does something. I guess this is what the mini rulebook is for!
>>46105958
Win with Chance Encounter.
>>46105991
This. Rev up dat Izzet EDH deck.
>>46105943
Madness post wasn't bait. Straight up have never seen or heard much talk about the Lions eye. I've been in and out of the game but popped into playing shortly before original innistrad. I'm just ignorant of the card's usage.
>>46106085
you can crack it in response to tutoring for something in your deck. The car will enter you hand after you've cracked it and youhae 3 mana of any color to play whatever you need to play. also flashback
>>46106085
The Vintage Masters version looks nice af though
>>46105958
Phasing means it "doesn't exist" until your next turn. Bury just means sacrifice
>>46106152
No, you actually can't. LED is specifically ruled to prevent that.
>>46106187
you are wrong and thinking of playing something from your hand. I say you play a tutor (sorcery) and maintaining priority you crack in response, then the tutor resolves and you have mana floating.
>>46106212
So you play it in response to playing the tutor, not while you're searching.
>>46106187
>cast Infernal Tutor
>crack Lion's Eye Diamond in response
>now floating three mana and hand is discarded
>Infernal Tutor now resolves and, due to being Hellbent from LED, you tutor for your win-con
Not that hard to understand, famme.
>>46106255
>you can crack it in response to tutoring for something in your deck
that's literally what he just said, dude
>>46106179
>Bury just means sacrifice
Bury is "destroy it and it can't be regenerated." It's targeted. Look at Terror.
>>46105859
One of my favorite Mountain cards. Thematically red, fits the set aesthetic, and really looks like sunset over jungle / rainforest ridges.
>>46106274
No, he said "in response to tutoring," implying that the tutor had already resolved.
It sounds pedantic, but sequencing like that can really fuck over newer Dredge players who aren't familiar with the mechanics.
>>46106323
>I was totally actually right even though I wasn't!
retard pls
>>46106323
>implying that the tutor had already resolved.
if it had already resolved, you wouldn't be responding to it
like, m8, come on
>>46106323
The only important minute rule here is that you have to hold priority and use the activated ability, you can't let it pass to your opponent or the tutor will resolve when he/she passes it back to you, and you won't have time to activate the LED.
Where's OP?
I wanna know what he pulled
>>46106362
And if you were "tutoring," the spell had to have resolved, you wouldn't be able to legally crack LED, and you would likely lose the game.
The difference being that aside from a ruling and a weird rules interaction that didnt exist at the time of printing, theres really nothing intuitively wrong with cracking the LED while you're searching, and players new to Dredge sometimes don't realize that if they miss a single response window they will outright lose.
>>46102135
>The only autist to send that survey said Invasion TM was shit and too hard to play
>NWO instated in response
>All because we didn't answer their fucking survey.
>>46106427
He was up past his bedtime and mommy came to tell him it was bedtime and he started throwing a tantrum and hit her in the face and her boyfriend beat the fuck out of him and he shit his pants and now he's getting taken to jail.
OK, so pretty sure I fucked it up and went through the rares first BECAUSE WIZARDS CHANGES THE RARITY ORDER IN THEIR PACKS SEEMINGLY AT WILL! Oopps.
No Lion's Eye Diamond. Awwww. But these are the cards I would play in EDH from the whole set.
So anticlimactic!
>>46106542
???ya dingus most of those are common
>>46106521
The rares, with random cards of who knows what rarity.
>>46104832
All three are great, Lens is an EDH staple, Archmage is great in Sharuum and Sydri and Plate goes in Godo, Kemba and Nahiri.
![afa413e4c1[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/XQNUY31.png "afa413e4c1[1].png")
>>46106281
Bury is two separate things, depending on if it's burying your stuff or their stuff. And it was back then, too.
If it's targetted burying (in general), it's destroy and can't regenerate, yes, like terror.
If it's bury something as a cost, or bury something each turn, or as a consequence of something like Frenetic Efreet, it turned into 'sacrifice'
>>46106492
>the spell had to have resolved
No, because anon quite explicitly mentioned he cracked the diamond in response to tutoring.
Shit's still on the stack, otherwise there would be nothing to respond to.
>theres really nothing intuitively wrong with cracking the LED while you're searching
Yes there fucking is. If you're searching your deck, the spell has resolved and LED has to be used after you reveal your chosen card, put it in your hand and shuffle your deck. Which is completely useless unless you're grabbing something you wanted to discard.
The other cards. Check out Geordi at the bottom right!
>>46106542
Fucking Unyaro Bee Sting.
>>46106606
>Village Elder
yeeeeeeeeee, part of my favorite 'cycle'.
>>46106685
I guess you didn't pull anything notable but I certainly appreciate the threap OP.
Next time try a box of Worldwake or Innistrad
>>46106685
Queer Elves - staple for the ages.
I'll be back tomorrow probably during the day, to open the other 3 boxes.
Here are some previous openings I've done. Can anyone see the basic pieces for any EDH decks in my pool?
>>46106931
Make Kiki-Jiki. He combos with everything.
>>46106685
>hits Brainstorm
>hits FoW
HE'S ON TO SOMETHING
>>46106606
Sawback Manticore there is a good indication of the power level of Mirage (incredibly low).
>>46106878
EDH? Yeah, let's take a look
Fulminator Mage is great but probably better in a Modern deck than EDH. You could sell that for a few bucks if you wanted.
Prison Term is a good aura for shutting down commanders.
River Kelpie is good, reliable card draw.
>>46106905
Wilt-Leaf Cavaliers is an auto-include in GW decks.
Mana Reflection is one of the better mana doublers, it's like $20 or something too.
Sudden Spoiling is a necessity in most black decks.
Academy Ruins is a necessity in most blue decks.
Scryb Rangers is good in elf decks I think?
>>46106931
>aether vial
Kiki goes great in most red EDH decks, or you can make him a commander.
Glen Elandra Archmage is a fantastic lockdown card if you can find the other piece (Mikaeus I think?)
Lava Spike and Rift Bolt are worth something to burn players probably, but not so much in EDH
Figure of Destiny might be playable in WR decks? WR is one of the worst color combos in EDH though
>>46106956
>scalding tarn
Pyromancer Ascension is probably better in a 60-card storm deck than EDH
>>46106978
>serum visions
Krark-Clan Ironworks is a godsend in artifact-heavy decks.
E-wit is a necessity in every green deck.
Cranial Plating can deliver a real beating in artifact-heavy decks.
Summoning Station is underrated IMO but fits best in artifact-heavy decks.
Aether Vial, Scalding Tarn, and Serum Visions are worth some bucks and I'd recommend selling those. The Vial and Tarn are playable in EDH but since they're worth so much I'd recommend selling them and getting KTK fetches instead if you absolutely need them
>>46102915
Is this in there?
>>46105852
Karen is useful anywhere if you can get his effect off. Lions eye diamond is just absolute shit.
>>46106281
Bury is "cut your deck and shove it in there" or something.
>>46102067
Yes they do.
Alright. So time for round 2.
>>46113943
Dude how much money did you waste on these things?
Invasion first again!
>>46113953
Lots!
Invasion - $15
Mirrodin - $22
Mirage - $25
Shadowmoor - $30
I love opening sealed product. I know it's stupid, but I like it. I don't open standard sealed product anymore because the cards always tank in value so much, and are generally kind of weak in the common and uncommon slots. So I buy the 'cheaper' older sets to open. Then cards are usually more powerful for EDH, and are more consistent in their value.
>>46114013
You'll probably end up making money from this due to the Tarn that you opened, m8.
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Zendikar/Scalding+Tarn#paper
I still have no idea if these older ones are repackaged?
>>46102275
>Not based Terese Nielsen island
Ok taste OP
It's got a little pull to open strip. Which could easily be replicated, but I would think most repacks would have just straight cellophane?
The cellophane is pretty aged, so if they were repacked, they were repacked awhile ago.
>>46114041
Yup. It's re packed. See those small divets in the plastic? Those are signs of re-sealing plastic
>>46101990
I have two sealed decks from Invasion, the elf barbarian is on the front of them. I don't think they're event decks they look like standard precons. Are they worth anything?
>>46114106
http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Spectrum
Contents. There's a foil under the last land!
And I THINK I finally have the rarity order of old packs like this figured out. From top to bottom:
Lands > foils > rares > uncommons > commons > rules book (in invasion at least) > rest of the commons
>>46114131
That's the one.
Thanks.
Some different lands from the last time. This set has some amazing lands!
And foil Wash Out! So pristine!
I'd play with this. I'd be that guy.
>>46114102
Can you circle it in paint? I don't see them!
The commons.
Bottom are the ones I'd try to play in EDH.
The uncommons.
Bottom row are ones I'd try playing. I like direct player damage in green!
The rares.
Teferi seems pretty powerful, but quite limited in when you can play it. I'm dumb enough to try to run it.
>>46114767
>limited
play it in a janky land deck that makes lands into creatures
>>46114573
Look at the top edge of the plastic wrap on the left side in the pic I replied to.
Time for Mirrodin!
>>46114799
Oh, those circles all in a row?
What makes those marks in the resealing process? What makes this different from the way Wizards sealed their product? Just trying to learn to spot this in the future!
>>46114862
You know how you reveal plastic with a hairdryer? Well some people like to be more precise on the smaller packages. They take this small wheel-like tool that's heated and roll it along the sealed edges, leaving those marks.I'm just bullshitting you here. I've got no idea.
Contents.
Foil rares on top yo!
>>46114961
Nice $3 foil rare
>>46114910
>>46102915
Dude, Brian Kibbler got the title Dragonmaster off of a Rith enchanted with Armadillo Cloak. That card was a house in that standard and extended. I can almost guarantee you that if it was Modern legal it'd see play.
>>46115005
still one of the better enchant creature cards out there
I love the duel deck art for it, too.
>>46114961
Appropriate artists name for such a card
BROM SMASH
>>46115004
>Le footoorama reddit meme
>>46114594
Dat secret tech
>>46114594
Oh oh it's a scarred puma
>>46115151
Bend test dat shit
Some different lands from the last time.
>>46115208
Mirrodin lands are beautiful
>>46115208
Wait. Is the idea with the islands to set them next to each other so their images connected?
The commons, and cards I would EDH play.
>>46115335
Two match up, but not the others.
The uncommons.
Bottom is stuff I would play.
>>46115528
Nice draws, op
So only 2 rares in this box. Goddamn it wizards!
The foil rare shouldn't count as a rare, I don't think. I've gotten a foil rare from a shadowmoor tournament box before, and it still had 3 rares.
I wonder what would happen if I asked wizards for a misprinted product replacement?
>>46115724
I think that might have changed at some point? Not sure, but I seem to remember the whole "you can get two rares in a booster if one is foil" thing starting... sometime after Time Spiral, I want to say.
Onto shadowmoor, hopefully 3 rares this time!
Contents.
Breakdown.
Are we like, shaking hands here?
Good old H-Ron.
And there was one foil too!
>>46115953
he bout to do it
Rules.
Best thread in a while
Commercial.
Lands.
>>46116111
>line up all the lands
>except the island/swamp
why
>>46116111
Your Island and Swamp placement is triggering me, delete this post.
The foiling is pretty neat.
>>46116145
>>46116156
Nooooooo!
Did you not see the last time?
Complaining only makes it worse!!!
>>46116145
>>46116156
Is this better?
>>46116111
Really digging that Plains, very moody.
>>46116210
Reported to Hasbro, you madman.
>>46116206
maybe he'll get it right this time
The commons.
Bottom are ones I'd play with.
>>46116360
Elsewhere flask seems useful. If only I had one.
The uncommons.
Bottom row are cards I would play.
The rares!
Boartusk would be a okay commander wouldn't it?
>>46116600
It would if it was legendary.
Op you're not very lucky
>>46116600
Is that really the R/G liege?
It's not bad, but the other lieges got really cool abilities on top of the color pump
>>46115075
>he hasn't heard of Brom
Really?
>>46115335
All Mirrodin lands are like that.
>>46115457
They still go together, there's just a gap because you don't have them all.
>>46115208
>that beautiful plains
unf.
The TNielsen Island from earlier is also a beaut, but that Plains just hits me, I started playing back in Mirrodin so.
>>46116600
8/16 shroud if you play mill. God damn i miss this wacky bullshit.
>>46115760
In Ravnica and back, a foil rare replaced the regular one. You got your three, OP.
>>46115724
Bosh counts as the third rare, dumbass.
