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>>46067628
huh my file names appear to be fucked.
Bumping because heroes unlimited makes my pussy quiver
>>46065407
Weird question.
Why is it that every time I talk my friends into playing heroes unlimited, specifically playing heroes unlimited, not rifts or ninjas and superspies, or anything like than. Heroes unlimited. They all show up with juicers and cyberknights, mind melters and glitterboys? What part of "heroes unlimited" is so fucking hard for people to grasp?
>>46068923
Dunno man, my friends probably have as much fun rolling up heroes as playing. For as much shit as Palladium gets for munchkin style gaming I've never seen anybody care as little for power level and as much for characterization as people doing 100% random roll heroes.
>>46068972
Fucking... I love random heroes. It gets me to play shit I would NEVER play. It's fucking amazing. But I know too many people who are just such shits about it. "I'm not attached to it because I didn't pick it" that sentence irks me because I feel like people who say it just can't into creativity.
>>46069074
My favorite part about That particular Guy is that he comes in two flavors, the minmaxing cuntbag and the special snowflake. Neither of those two extremes can handle their character not being perfect in every way, it's like a mental disease.
>>46069383
My problem with children with that hasn't ever gone with the special snowflake or the min-max monster. They just constantly complain that they can't be attached to any character that they didn't just make. It just feels like they lack creativity. Sadly they are my most consistent group. They are pretty good at sitting at a table on a scheduled day and playing. So I have to stick with them I guess. Too bad its so hard to assemble players at someone's house these days..m
>>46069468
That's fucked up. Hope you find a more creative group sometime.
>>46069515
Y'know, now that I'm talking it out, I think I realize the problem. They're just lazy shits... Wow... Thanks anon you helped me open my eyes
>>46069586
Hey man, I've been there. I ran games for a local group for a long time, same shit every campaign no matter what, same system only, final destination. Then finally I decided to hold out for players that wanted to play what I really wanted to run and bam! Fun times ever since.
Maybe take some time off with the current group and try recruiting for exactly what you really want to run. Never know who might bite the hook.
>>46068923
Are you friends with retards?
Also those characters would be a lot weaker than a lot of possible heores unlimited options so you could just let them run with it and get their shit pushed in.
>>46067781
Interesting - here's a more minimalist conversion to something d20-ish.
>>46068636
Jesus, who wrote that?
>Prosek was impressed with some of the ancient methods to help curve the population from becoming criminals and/or traitors.
>Although they were highly decorated and respected members of the Coalition War Machine, they were caught in the act of conversing and practicing "THE EVIL". These men were executed in the Arena before the first bought.
>>46068148
YOU ARE VERY VULGAR BUT I WILL GIVE YOU A 'HELL YEAH NIGGA'
I feel like mostly Rifts is discussed here so it makes me very pleased when Heroes is brought up. What's going on in your Heroes games right now, palladium general?
>Coalition States utterly crush Tolkeen
>CS puts NG/Upper Peninsula on a leash
>Free Quebec tensions seemingly resolved
>No real armed forces in Lazlo
>Federation of Magic too disorganized to pose a threat
>No other major city-states in the New West or Canada
So what's next for the meta-plot in north america? There don't seem to be any surviving challengers to CS dominance left, short of the Splugorth deciding to crush them, or a sudden civil war.
There are only a few areas there don't seem fully filled in, plot-wise: the pacific northwest and far north, but introducing major new players there would be difficult this late in the game. And as much as I'd love to see the Mounties ride south to bring Peace, Order and Good Government, it doesn't seem likely.
>>46076760
Ride south with firetrucks and super soakers to kill the Vampires.
>>46076782
Vampires use slaves to dam up the Rio Grande and ride north.
Vampires align with Newfoundlanders in exchange for rain wear.
>>46076760
>huh, the map I made many many years ago
>I see the strangest shit on 4chan
Well, Cali and the Northwest haven't been explored in any significant way; who knows what's hiding out there? Although officially Cali was scrubbed clean of life, something must have moved in during 300 years of nothing.
>>46076999
Seattle and Vancouver seem like a possible center of human civilization.
Vancouver island seems like it would be taken over by druids or something, considering the people who already live there.
>>46076760
Current campaign book in the works is Coalition: Heroes of Humanity. One of the Splugorths rivals invade earth with literally all of hell as back up and the CS leads the fight back along with all of north america including magic users.
Supposedly they are bringing back the exiled CS magic users and maybe even making them some sort of CS military specialist/scholar type OCC. Yes you heard that right, CS Wizards.
>>46077103
Addendum: They actually already have an Official Magic User besides the exiles, they have a research complex run by a Techno-Wizard.
It isn't even a big stretch, magic is outlawed as a dangerous, uncontrollable and unknown energy force that created the rifts. So all they have to do is announce that they are so damn smart that they figured out how to use it safely because HFY and they are good to go.
>>46077175
What book has that research complex? I wanna read that.
>>46077175
So is that supposed to be in cooperation with the Federation of Magic or not?
Either way I can imagine that creating some slight internal problems between CS states.
>>46077227
Not the Federation of Magic, they are apparently responsible for the invasion. Cool detail that got leaked a while ago that i wish i had saved the image for: CS Cyber Knights.
>>46077200
I forget the name, it is the CS black ops book with Emperors sons hit squads in it i think.
Hey, Palladium General. Describe your perfect DM to me, right now.
If you're a forever DM, describe your perfect player.
>>46077347
One that exists
>>46077370
That's your bar? Pretty low.
>>46077347
Somebody who has:
>Memory good enough to remember most of a world book's content (the one where we would be playing).
>A fun imagination to build upon what's in the books without being slavishly devoted to them.
>Flexible enough to fill in the gaps and contradictions in the lore.
>The math skills to simplify that damned system.
>>46077347
Someone local. Able to run things smoothly enough to get shit done.
>>46077330
Well that makes things interesting, though it will be interesting to see if they try and actually "reform" the Nazis or if they keep it an "Evil vs Evil" conflict.
>>46077347
Absolutely ideal:
>Able to make NPCs feel different and interesting
>Narrative-focused, doesn't throw boring combat around to take up time he doesn't know what to do with
>World feels dynamic and alive, stuff happens even when you're not interacting with it
>Open-minded enough to run various settings for a good group that isn't just medieval fantasy
>Atmosphere atmosphere atmosphere atmosphere
>Could hang out with them outside of games, too, as in they're not boring or annoying
My DM checks all these boxes thankfully.
>>46077533
It isn't and wasn't ever about 'reforming' the CS, they aren't uniformly evil and never were. The CS and it's people see themselves as heroes, in alot of ways they are. Given the conditions they have be fighting against being hardass Nazis is a completely logical response.
Now (prior to the new invasion anyway) that they are relatively secure they have the leisure to re examine the situation and look into the more philosophical aspects of their position.
Now that they have the stability, knowledge and experience to be secure in their position they have the leisure to say "OK that is just a wolfen, he is just a person with a canine head. He is less dangerous than a dog boy. But that dude, he's a wolf demon from the dimension of slaughtering canine demons, shoot him on sight."
Besides the suppression of literacy and 'all' research into magic they haven't done anything wrong in the grand scheme of things, it is after all their planet that is under attack. Their only real mistake so far has been being douchbags about it, their overall goals are completely logical and noble
>>46078223
The people of the CS were never uniformly evil, but the CS definitely always was. You can't intentionally imitate the Nazis and be the good guys, whether it's in reality of fiction.
There are plenty of examples of groups that dealt with the same threats without resorting to the same level of xenophobia and violently enforced ignorance as them. Pretending they're taking the only available solution is ignoring all the groups who found better solutions.
>>46078344
>>46078344
>There are plenty of examples of groups that dealt with the same threats without resorting to the same level of xenophobia and violently enforced ignorance as them. Pretending they're taking the only available solution is ignoring all the groups who found better solutions.
But on Rifts Earth that is objectively wrong. The only group that has as much success as the CS is the NGR. While the NGR is slightly more tolerant of DBs and Magic how did they achieve that success?
Oh right, by allying with the CS and using CS troops to pull a D Day on the Gargoyles so they could genocide their entire race. If the CS becomes slightly more tolerant of DBs and allows modest research into Magic then they will be more or less identical to the NGR, which is a huge plot point as it is their only point of real difference. It is also the only thing keeping the New Navy from formally joining the CS. If that can be accomplished and A.R.C.H.I.E can convince the CS that he really is their ally then they will have enough unity to seriously consider launching an assault on Atlantis.
If the current invasion is dealt with then there is nothing left in North America to prevent total human dominance, the bugs in Canada already got genocided by a CS lead alliance.
>>46078798
>But on Rifts Earth that is objectively wrong
Totally wrong. The CS is strong in spite of their attitude to magic and aliens, not because of it.
Fairly minor kingdoms rapidly gain power simply by being less xenophobic and terrible to everyone compared to them. That won't change just because they keep trying to kill off every state that inevitably arises where aliens and magic are welcome.
>>46079107
Please list those kingdoms, i am reasonably sure more half have been destroyed, absorbed or allied themselves with the CS and/or NGR. The only reasonably advanced human civilizations not allied or subordinated with the CS/NGR are the new USSR and Japan, the former being a mess and the latter being more or less the same as the NGR with additional rift shenanigans giving them an entire intact pre rifts city.
There is no human civilization that could have wiped out the bugs or saved Europe from the Gargoyles besides the CS/NGR, the Gargoyles took the CS, NGR combined to wipe out, they even had ARCHIE and the New Navy helping out a little. Without the CS North America would be a demon occupied hellhole run by the Federation of Magic, the Splugorth and half a dozen other demon factions.
>>46074473
It's a "netbook" so literally some kid 15 years ago
>>46077103
>Splugorth
Errr... The Splugorth are involved in this? I don't think the Minion War spilling over onto Earth had anything to do with them
>>46079332
>Please list those kingdoms, i am reasonably sure more half have been destroyed, absorbed or allied themselves with the CS and/or NGR.
Again, you're misunderstanding the point. It's irrelevant whether the CS has a larger armed forces than any other empire, they are still undermining themselves with their fascist nonsense.
Lazlo, Tolkeen, even the Pecos empire and Colorado baronies can survive with a tiny fraction of the CS's power simply by being the slightest bit tolerant. Meanwhile the CS is fighting an eternal and pointless battle to eradicate everyone else, which will only continue until they give up on that ideology.
>>46079994
Every transdimensional conflict involves the splugorth someway, however they are not directly involved from what i have seen so far. The invaders are actual demons, like pit fiends, dybuk and their ilk. The implication being thrown around is that Splyn was concerned at first, was considering actually helping North America/The CS but decided not to as they are holding their own. Apparently splyncryth is momentarily paralyzed with indecision because while he doesn't want Earth getting invaded if the CS wins decisively he is the only remaining major target.
Since the CS will no doubt prevail the next event is probably going to be Coalition War Campaign: D-Day Atlantis
>>46080943
Yeah, all of the various power factions get addressed regarding how they feel about the Minion War spilling onto Earth in Megaverse in Flames. Pretty similarly to the rest of the big emergency books like Mechanioids, Xiticix, Vampires, etc. I thought you were trying to say that in Heroes of Humanity the Splugorth actually play a role greater than "this is how we respond".
>>46080725
>Lazlo, Tolkeen, even the Pecos empire and Colorado baronies
Um, you are aware that all of those have been destroyed and/or ab
>>46080994
The only one of those that has been destroyed is Tolkeen, what are you on about cowboy
>>46080994
Er, post mishap. Those are all dead or destroyed dude.
>It's irrelevant whether the CS has a larger armed forces than any other empire, they are still undermining themselves with their fascist nonsense.
Well seeing as they keep winning they don't seem very undermined. And it has bewen made clear that in the next even they are loosening up on the Fascist component by a significant margin.
>>46080993
Oh no, they don't do anything beyond respond from what i know. Apparently he is getting a bit worried, his failure to stop the Coalition from linking up with the NGR freaked him out especially as they wiped the gargoyles out with zero magical assistance. He alsothinks ARCHIE is an alien intelligence helping the CSwhich isn't entirely wrong.
>>46081035
He's hoping Prosek-Senpai finally notices him.
>>46081216
Hey that's cool though, this is a thread about roleplaying right
>>46081353
>"No Prosek-Kun.... I can't!"
>>46081035
I thought the pecos empire was wreaked a while ago? BTW nice example, a bunch of inhuman demonic slavers and their subjects. None of those has the ability or even desire to protect earth and save humanity. Your entire argument is based on the CS being bad because they are waging an effective war to save earth and humanity, you are literally siding with the invaders.
I've checked your log-on ident you dumb ass, you don't even have a literacy permit. I am reporting your ass to CS security you demon worshiping Federation of Magic sympathizer, have fun when the Dog Boys kick in your door and a Psy-Stalker eats your soul you traitor filth.
>>46081384
mein siden est exploden furher san!
Funny shit.
>>46081396
>Effective war
The one that killed off one of the only other viable human kingdoms just because they used magic. Right. Meanwhile the Splugorth sit back and laugh while the humans kill themselves.
Fascism is the art of being weak, cowardly and stupid while pretending to be brave, strong and smart.
>>46081384
>Coalition shills on my Lazloitt/erintarn/
>0.25 CS credits have been deposited into your account
>>46081464
You mean the guys who used hordes of demons to slaughter humans and was an almost entirely nonhuman stronghold of other dimensional invaders? Are you even a fucking human to side with that?
>>46081525
Didn't they only do that after the Coalition invaded them and slaughtered their civilians?
>>46081525
You mean the humans who had a human kingdom and became powerful enough to challenge the fascists in a short period of time, and acted in self-defense against mindless genocidal aggression.
>>46081583
>>46081525
They were ruled almost exclusively by dbs and magic users, regularly helped bring in more dbs, opened rifts and generally were doing jack and shit to help take back and secure earth. Get it through your head, they were helping invade the planet and were actively assisting the invaders solidify a hold here. Not only that they were actively standing in the way of the only force on the continent that was actually trying to save earth and humanity. Beyond that we know exactly where they stand, their first act of 'defense' was to summon as inter dimensional invaders as possible. The instant they did that they proved that the CS was right and they were an intolerable threat to earth and humanity.
In B4:
>Self defense is Fascist
>DB lives matter
>Home Dimensional normative species are racist
>No demons are illegal
>No wall for Chi town
>We should teach shifting in schools
>Bodycams for Deadboys and retraining for non violent conflict resolution
>Dat splugorth slaver didnt do nuttin wrong
>>46081866
>Thinks having an exclusive class of leaders discredits you
>Ruled by an emperor and his crotch spawn.
LOL K WHATEVS.
>>46081889
found the dbee
>>46081986
>as usual spends more time killing humans than learning to tell DBs from magic users
GF dumped you for a butter troll because he had better hygiene, did she?
>>46082030
I've heard banter like this before. Gentlemen, we've got an elf on our board. Go back to Palladium you leafeatin' fairy!
This thread really makes Palladium fans look decent. You have "My fun is the right fun, all others are dildos" upthread with Heroes Unlimited and then you have CS guy and Anti-CS Guy that make most L5R Clan shitposters look reasonable.
Bravo, Palladium general.
This thread is full of Dbee loving race traitors espousing false equalivancy between Nazis that scapegoated innocents and Dbees, monsters, demons and magic users that nearly wiped out humanity after the coming of the Rifts.
I would even call CS policies an over reaction based on the Human population of N. AMERICA.
>>46082058
You know you'd rather join the magic side.
>>46082082
And then murder all the Quebecois, of course.
>>46082069
Don't be so mad, lad. It's just a fad.
>>46082082
>CS Not race traitors
>Only faction to actually create brand-new species and unleash them into the wild.
Even the Naruni didn't manage that degree of a screw up.
>>46082101
Can I just be a cosmo knight instead of joining either of the shitty sides in that retarded war?
>>46083786
Only if you want to deal with the insane level of power creep in Phase World.
At least it's consistent across the dimension, but damn.
>>46083854
>power creep
>because a space setting is higher power than an apocalyptic survival setting
k... keep me posted
>>46084013
Just don't complain about South America then.
>>46084103
South America is like an inter-dimensional war zone with special snowflakes doing battle on every street corner. Makes sense to me.
>>46084153
>inter-dimensional war zone with special snowflakes doing battle on every street corner.
That sums up everywhere in Rifts entirely.
>>46085539
Jason Statham IS... The Headhunter.
>>46085569
I'd Transport it
Why do bitches barely know anything about Eyelor these days?
>>46085916
Because they did not take the Lore: Eyes skill or failed because it starts at 3% and gains merely 1%/level.
>titan juicer
>>46074987
Thanks dawg! Heroes games make me physically excited!
I'm part of a team of supers who are street level. We have a physical training guy in out strongman spot, we have a magic item for the mystic spot, and I'm a mutant with enhanced speed. We also got a guy who's got like... Swing line, adhesion, and control insects. He gets mad when we call him spider man. My GM has us battling constantly. We don't get to role play a lot out. It's like, fight a street thug, now fight a purse jacker! Get that stolen car back! LOOK OUT THERES A SUPERVILLAIN!
>>46077103
Woulda thought the Xiticix would be a more obvious choice for a threat that suddenly boils up.
I wonder if we'll see if the Republicans succeed in their aim of making the CS more benevolent - if they want to push the CS as heroes, having a couple of key assassinations and new policies would be rather important to making it plausible.
Plus, they have a giant army of war machines and control most of the non-government Glitter Boy pilots - pretty useful assets.
>Heroes unlimited, villains game based on justice league TV show.
>Fledgling gang, three core players with drop ins.
>Riley Rickman aka the wrecker. Our dim witted muscle.
>System our tech guy and legman.
>Guy Prism aka the guided phantasm, a magic user with no offensive spells. Me because asshole.
>Casino and tech raid jobs, getting a rep except GP who pretends to be gentleman ghost.
>Local water hero Tsunami starts hunting us.
>Miss two sessions due to work. The botched two jobs the hero kicking the groups ass.
>Tsunami hits our HQ, brings news crew. Turns into water drowning the wrecker.
"Soo. He is all water? Like salt water?"
DM: No, fresh or he would die or something.
"So...water to wine at my level is what seven hundred gallons?"
>DM does the I hate my players face. Tsunami back to human state blood alcohol level is dead.
>The wrecker murders a drunk superhero on live TV with the silence broken
"Gentleman ghost is the best at plans!"
>>46079332
Whoa, hold up, what's ARCHIE doing helping the humans?
>>46090241
He's been subtly helping humans against greater threats for a decade now, ever since the Mechanoids. He helped against Mechanoids, Vamps, Bugs and now against the Demons. And of course by "helped" I mean "sent some robots to fuck around nearby, gather information and kill any shit they can easily isolate"
>>46090272
Helping them now so he can rule/murder them later, right?
>>46090310
Pretty much - though Hagan is, I think, now trying to make him a little bit more benevolent.
>>46090310
Perhaps. It's stated every time ARCHIE pitches in that he is only doing so to save himself and "his" planet. Also keep in mind that Hagan has some input too and doesn't want to die either.
>>46090352
>>46090362
Still, you better watch your back. Anything could be a Cyberworks plant. ANYTHING.
>>46090405
Even this?
>>46090566
Especially that.
>>46090680
Even this?
>>46090688
Extra especially that.
>>46087068
That sounds like kind of a bummer. I'm in a hero group right now, we're looking for new members? It's low-power street level game, our DM focuses on the narrative rather than the combat. Text-based on Roll20, and we usually play on Sundays. Interested?
>>46091322
Nah, thanks though. I like the people and wouldn't trade it for the world. Also I really want to sleep with my GM. He keeps turning down my offers. Hope your game goes well! Narrative focused sounds great!
>>46088530
Only problem with "Reformed CS" - who is going to be the big bad grimdark faction after that? If they're good guys they quickly become too powerful if they can have massive war machines, magic, supernatural powers and everything else.
>>46091322
I'd be down.
>>46092204
>I'd be down.
Contact info, homie?
>>46092204
>big bad grimdark faction after that
Well there's still the Splugorth and Xiticix - and New Quebec are hardliners IIRC?
Though open war with Splynncryth would result in the CS getting their teeth pushed in.
Bumping for the best system that isn't "build your own game"
>>46093514
>New Quebec are hardliners IIRC?
Free Quebec is hardline on issues like Dog Boys and D-Bees, but they're more flexible on things like enforcing illiteracy, juicer technology, and general civil liberties. If the CS is Stalinist Russia or Nazi germany, Quebec is more like Putinist Russia or Francoist Spain. Similar policies, but milder on a number of fronts.
>Though open war with Splynncryth would result in the CS getting their teeth pushed in.
Yeah, the Splugorth being involved in earth are like the USA getting involved in a bush war in africa. If they bothered to care about what's going on at all with the bickering locals, they're wreck everyone.
Rifts miniatures wargame when?
>>46095922
>Quebec Glitterboy Legions
>Chi-Town Heavy Mechanized division
>Lazlo Techno-Wizard Defence Corps
>Federation of Magic Demon Army
>Splugorth Slave Raiders
>Tolkeen Wizard Commands
>Pecos Empire Bandits
>Simvan Monster Tribes
>NGR Operative Forces
>>46067628
>>46067781
>>46068636
>>46074067
>>46076174
Cool, thanks for some more books to the collection.
Here's Rifts Microlite
>>46097825
Are these all being saved anywhere?
>>46095922
Probably never. PB has been burned hard by the Robotech minis game.
When joining a Palladium games group, which is better: pitching a setting-appropriate concept to the Referee and building the character from there, or randomly rolling a character with oversight from the Referee?
>>46101028it depends on the group, you should ask your GM
>>46097907
Yeah I've got them archived in the trashcan where they belong
>>46101100
Oh. That makes sense.
Why the spoilers, though?
>>46101315Marketing 101: The more interesting the message, the more likely it is to be heeded.
