FOILS
>What is your main deck?
>Do you want to foil your deck?
>How much of your deck is foiled?
Winter is almost over.
>foiling out a burn deck
kill yourself
>>46042066
I can't. It's Burn, not Life Drain. It's meant to kill you.
>>46042008
I only foil my commander decks.
>>46042008
>>>What is your main deck?
Grixis Control.
>>Do you want to foil your deck?
No. I could buy many new decks for the price of foiling the one I already play.
>>How much of your deck is foiled?
One Prodigy, one Delver, one mountain and two swamps.
>>46042008
>What is your main deck?
Burn followed by infect
>Do you want to foil your deck?
Lolnope
>How much of your deck is foiled?
0%
I've spent enough of decks no fucking way am I gonna walk around with a deck worth 5x as much.
>>46042008
>>What is your main deck?
BW Tokens
>>Do you want to foil your deck?
Not really.
>>How much of your deck is foiled?
Murderous Cut, two BFZ Plains Fetid Heath Expedition.
Actually I only want to foil the basic lands and a second Fetid Heath Expedition. It could be I do want to foil it out more than I think since I want to expeditionite it.
>>46042008
>What is your main deck?
UG Infect
>Do you want to foil your deck?
Nope
>How much of your deck is foiled?
Glistener elf, pendelhaven, and dryad arbor FTV
I wanted to durdle around on xmage with mardu midrange before i buy but people is just playing silly TITI shit decks and i always win.
>>46042008
>What is your main deck?
Jund
>Do you want to foil your deck?
Not really, foils are cool but Jund is already an expensive deck and I'd rather use the money to build other decks.
>How much of your deck is foiled?
Maybe a dozen or so cards, most of which are promos rather than pack foils.
>What is your main deck?
Merfolk
>Do you want to foil your deck?
I'm in the process of doing it, after selling off some cards I found in a box in a storage unit belonging to my sister's ex-fiance.She got cucked, he didn't pay, so she's on the hook for it.
>How much of your deck is foiled?
Bought the last few pieces and they're shipping (>tfw foil Aether Vial is cheaper than non-foil). The 10 $1 envelops of foil lands I wanted is going to be amusing for the post office. The rest I foiled out from a mix of EDH trades and trading with the stores from my loot box.
Probably a stupid idea, but it's not a prohibitively expensive deck. Factoring in what I'm getting rid of the non-foils for, it's really only the price of an additional tier 2 deck.
I mean, it's not like it's foil Goyfs or Lilianas or Snapcasters. :^)
>>46042897
Similar story: My sister's boyfriend got us both into playing Magic a few years back and when they broke up not too long ago, she somehow ended up with all of his cards. Some of those cards are pretty valuable and are now part of our shared collection, silver linings I guess.
>>46042130
>implying you didn't foil Zurgo - the best modern commander
>>46042008
>What is your main deck?
MonoU Tron
>Do you want to foil your deck?
Can really finish it, no Chalice of the Void. So no chance in foiling it.
>How much of your deck is foiled?
Zero
>>46043011
I dont really understand how valuable cards end up in storage lots. Im guessing a non-playing parent/sibling/friend just groups them all together prior to a move and they're forgotten about. I keep any money card in one of those 4-per-page small binders, and never mix it with the shoeboxes full of draft cards.
>>46043083
Do you think Chalice will go up or down after the banhammer? It's played more now, but it'll be stronger with less Eldrazi running around.
>>46043165
Probably go up,unless they're reprinted somewhere maybe Eternal Masters, but i don't have the dough to bite the bullet to buy them. I can't even play modern often anyway.
>>46043165
Eldrazi was the only deck in the format positioned to use it asymmetrically, so when that deck dies the price for Chalice may fall slower than you'd think but good luck selling them.
As for foiling I only run foils I open. The real pimping comes from APAC lands.
>>46042008
>What is your main deck?
Birthing Pod. I have since been playing everything in hopes of finding a new soul deck.To no avail.
>Do you want to foil your deck?
I would rather own every deck than own one foil deck. I am very happy with my current collection.
>How much of your deck is foiled?
Absolutely nothing bar the occasional promos.
>>46043139
I'm the same, my valuable cards and draft chaff are kept well away from one another. My sister and her bf kept their all of their cards in the same binders and she just grabbed the lot when she moved out of their apartment.
>>46043264
What's wrong with Creature Toolbox? Playing against it is almost identical.
>tfw you don't own constructed decks because you play nothing but Draft, Cube andJudge Tower
>>46043297
Needing to flood the board to tutor something ONCE is a whole different story. I've been playing Kiki Chord for a while and it's enjoyable, but it's not my deck.
>>46043378
>Draft
Fine
>Cube
Always a blast
>Judge tower
I'm so sorry, anon
>>46042008
>What is your main deck?
Esper Control/UWx
>Do you want to foil out your deck?
Yep
>How much is foiled?
All but snapcasters, but I can't justify $130 when it could be reprinted
What do you guys think about this for Esper Control?
The thread on MTGS was super exited about it, but I can't see playing more than one copy in the sideboard. The life loss is too high of a cost for an effect that is only marginally better than Celestial Purge or Detention Sphere.
>>46043589
I can't see it being played in Modern, the life loss is too big a downside for what is effectively an instant speed Maelstrom Pulse. It will probably see standard play though.
>>46043589
>Dick move, Sorin. Dick move.
>-- Jae Beleren
>>46043589
Not in my list unless modern slows down significantly
>>46043589
It would have either had no loss of life or cost WB to be modern playable. As is there are just to many other options to justify the mana cost plus the self bolt.
>>46043589
there's better removal in esper control for modern
that being said, I think Thing In the Ice is what esper wants. It's a wall to begin with which helps them stabilize and then it becomes a 7/8 with a tempo swing based off if they cast spells, which, esper control does. It's not a huge investment either
Best Planeswalkers in Modern post Twin banning:
1) LotV
2) Karn
3) Ajani V
4) Jace AoT
5) Elspeth 1.0
6) Gideon Jura
7) Tamiyo
8) Flip Jace
>>46043589
Gonna use it in my tokens since I have a shitload of life gain. I already use Utter End so this will replace it.
>>46043849
GUD B8 M8
>>46043849
Solid list. Only thing you can really argue is flip 1 and 2.
>>46043849
-tamiyo -elspeth and i agree
>>46043849
Arlinn will be on this
>>46043849
Tamiyo should be replaced with Arlinn.
It's a huge boost to big Naya Zoo.
>>46043964
Can you use her abilities twice in one turn if transformed?
0 and then the flip side +1?
>>46043849
More like
Staples:
Lili
Karn
Playable:
Ajani V
Flip Jace
Ugin
Elspeth 1.0
Elspeth 3.0
Jura
Koth
Architect of Thought
Ashiok
And potentially Nahiri or Arlinn
Everything else is garbo.
>>46043774
I don't know. If Tron ever picks back up it's a good answer to...everything they cast.
>>46043944
No, don't think so. Her triggers are a huge fucking problem, and Zoo already has Domri Rade if it wants to take the Planeswalker express to value town.
>>46043924
They both have their niches which is why I included them. Elspeth for midrange UWr in a flex slot to help Geist and friends, and apparently Tamiyo in Blue Moon which makes sense I guess but idk.
>>46043964
No one knows how good she's gonna be in Modern yet, otherwise I would've knocked Tamiyo and flip Jace off for Arlinn and Nahiri. I mean the best thing Arlin does for Zoo is her werewolf side +1, and she likely wont get that off until turn 6 because she needs to get out of bolt range. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if she ended up being #1 or #10.
>>46043989
Lel FUCK no.
>>46044023
You could drop her and +1 a goyf. Turn 4 it should be at least 3/4 so it gets to get in, either kill something in combat or deal 5, and still hang back on defense.
She's got flexibility. I mean time will tell. So far the only Planeswalkers that have remained cosntant staples are the 3 mana ones in Lili and Karn.
>>46043996
Tamiyo is Blue Moons best walker like >>46044023 said. More and more people are swapping their batterskulls for her. She helps with the lock and draws you a million cards with Cryptic/P&K. But I guess she's a niche walker in one deck so yeah, probably shouldn't be on the list. And Flip Jace is definitly top 3 if not the best.
>>46044072
You could add her to "playable" then.
I also realized I forgot Sorin, Solemn Visitor, too.
>>46043589
Apparently losing 3 is a pain beyond imagining?
What is the explanation for creatures power in magic then.
I think she'll be decent.
LSV wrote an article on her:
http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/a-werewolf-planeswalker-arlinn-kord-of-shadows-over-innistrad/
>>46044131
If every card had spot on abilities for its flavor, Vindicate would have read, "Destroy target permanent, you lose the game."
>>46044154
It's really going to depend on what emerges as good, this is going to be our first look at post Twin modern without the Eldrazi shitting all over the place
>>46042008
>What is your main deck?
B/W Sisters
>Do you want to foil your deck?
Yes.
>How much of your deck is foiled?
Very little, I'm building Bant Bogles and Esper Rally first.
>>46042008
I got a foil Japanese plains for my samurai deck. But that's it.
Eerie Interlude seems really good in UWR. Wall of omens, Resto, Tiago...
>>46044072
flip jace is garbage
>>46043589
>Sideboard for Tron: the return
Don't know what other match ups can be good for this card in esper. Junk has more life gain so is not really a problem for them to use them, but is not good against agro match up
>>46044384
New avacyn, resto angel...
>>46044566
It's great against other midrange and control decks. The problem is that - except against Tron - Celestial Purge is just as good because every other fair deck runs black, red, or both.
>>46044586
New Avacyn has no business seeing play outside Limited.
>>46044652
Don't tell the shitters here. They won't listen
>>46044450
Not right now. Once SOI hits yeah
>>46044231
Why Bant Bogles?
Legitimately curious, because there's a lot of theorycrafting behind the deck and Blue doesn't really offer much.
>>46044652
>Not using avacyn one sided wrath against all that aggro out there
Pleb, go play your TITI
>>46044838
Holy fuck you are bad
>>46044154
How will she fit in Jund I wonder?
>>46044838
>use lots of little dudes to trigger Avacyn
>opponent zaps a dude, Avacyn wipes your board and proceeds to either eat removal or get chumped by Spirit tokens all day long
>curve out into Avacyn in control
>have no dudes to save
>never trigger her board wipe
It's a hopelessly bad card, anon.
>>46042066
> foiling out any deck
Autism at its finest.
Do we have any Rack players here?
Is Tom's list the best now?
What is the opinion on Small Pox?
>>46045001
I play 8 rack mainly, pray tell what is toms new list? I've always favoured pox over bridges
>>46045107
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/31178_8-Rack-In-Modern.html
>>46044997
Should go back to not voting for Bernie, poorfag. :^)
People who shit talk foils are just jealous at their impotence and financial shortcomings.
Why is there never a Standard general?
The next time we see Emrakul, is he gonna be a Planeswalker?
>>46045177
it rotates too fast.
>>46043964
ok, to me this planewalker translates to this:
"2GR Put a 2/2 wolf token into play, and gain 3 life, next turn flip a coin, if you win that flip, deal 3 damage to target creature or player"
I'd rather have huntmaster in my grip than this.
>>46045136
>literally nothing to deal with Leyline
I mainboard that shit.
>>46045146
>self-esteem so low he needs shiny cardboard
>>46042008
>What is your main deck?
Naya burn!
>Do you want to foil your deck?
No I'm poor
>How much of your deck is foiled?
1/60th I have a foil grim lavamancer because it was all my buddy had to trade me
what's your list for your burn deck?
I feel like mine is inconsistent currently, still need more fetches and 2 goblin guides
Do you recommend nacatls? I just got 4 and want to test them
>>46045250
>I mainboard that shit.
pls share your tech
>>46045248
>pic
I'm dying lol
>>46045267
Mono W Prison. 4 Leyline, 4 Nykthos. At its absolute worst, it ramps devotion. At its best it turns wincons off.
>>46045319
Oh, gross.
>>46045287
i made that when it came out. I'm glad that someone else finally sees it too.
>>46042008
>Deck
Moist Junk
>Foil
Oh hell no.
>Foil fetches
>Foil shocks/expeditions
>Foil Snaps
>Foil one-ofs of my favorite meme cards
I could buy a legacy deck for the same cost to foil this turd.
>>46044923
Honestly, the only way she grinds out card advantage is the -1. So if you are trying her out in Jund its literally gonna be:
0 flip, -1 flip, 0 flip, -1 flip, 0 flip, -1 cash in.
>>46045250
>self-esteem so low he needs to make the comment that "only autistic people foil"
>>46044721
Kind of a budget issue. It offers me Aqueous Form, Curiosity and Invisible Agent. I already have the lands, so I only really need to buy the Daybreak Coronets.
>>46042008
>main deck
Still having fun with Knightfall, since I have all the parts lying around.
>foil that shit?
My Retreats and some shit like that are foiled, but I won't go out of my way to finish it.
>>46045146
>Should go back to not voting for Bernie, poorfag. :^)
Are you implying that poor people are stupid for not voting Bernie?
>>46045250
>so poor he needs to comment only autistic people foil"
>>46045513
On a side note, I forgot to mention I'm building the Bant Auras deck with my GF, who barely plays competitive and when she does she prefers playing her soldiers deck, which is only missing 3 Cavern of Souls, so no real need to be hardcore competitive.
>>46042234
>I could buy many new decks
>>46042494
>I'd rather use the money to build other decks
>>46043264
>I would rather own every deck
>>46045406
>I could buy a legacy deck
So I want to ask a legitimate question of people who say this. It's a common enough line... but do you actually go out and buy other decks with said money?
I can understand "I don't want to spend money on foils" as well, but why not say that? Most of the people I've encountered who said they could buy X or Y deck with the money they don't spend on foils generally don't expand their card collections outside of Limited and Pre-Release events.
>>46045493
>>46045588
I didn't even say that. I'm stating that if you need shiny cardboard you use possessions to project the self-worth you lack.
>>46045627
>>46044997>b-but that's not me!
>>46045623
>but do you actually go out and buy other decks with said money?
I do. Just the other day I finished my set of Chalices, and I'll probably build something anti-meta shortly after the banlist hits.
>>46045656
I like foils because they're super pretty and they hold their value better than non foils.
>>46045733
>hold their value better than non foils
Do you actually sell or trade cards from your foiled-out decks? Because I heard this a lot from friends who will take their cards to the grave.
>>46045733
The whole point of foils is for your personal bling.
There's a reason why stores don't like buying Judge Foils, Foil Goyfs, etc. Sure, they retain an astronomical price value. But nobody wants to buy them.
My EDH store has had the same promo Mana Crypt on display for over a year now.
>>46045623
I'm the guy who said I would rather own every deck.
I own Affinity, Burn, Valakut Titan, the URx core, the BGx core and the Company core. I use my money to buy staples to actually build decks or add new techs to decks I own, such as Summoner's Pact in Valakut Titan.
What cards in otgw/bfz/origins have good value and are unlikely to drop I want to cash out my pucatrade points but getting the modern cards I want is taking too long
>>46042008
>Cards i want foil but cannot afford:
Vendilion cliqué Judge promo
Survival of the fitest Judge promo
MMA Foil dark confidant
WCQ Thalia guardian of thraben
>>46045902
All the good things will gona loose value after Eldrazi Ban
>>46045780
I might eventually..who knows. I started foiling out my deck cause my boyfriend got me into modern by buying me 4 foil colonnades, then I got the itch to foil out the rest. I sold off the nonfoils for the deck on ebay and recouped lots of money back, then I searched for really deals and built the rest. UWx is suuuuper cheap to foil out compared to other decks. I couldn't go wrong on the khans foil fetches either, I don't see them going down in value anytime soon.
>>46045916
>>Vendilion Clique Judge promo
Best Art
>>WCQ Thalia
Worst Art
>>46045969
I like the new art but that ones nice too.
>>46045957
>boyfriend
Are you a gay lumberjack?
>>46045916
>judge VClique
Had one in my cart once... just couldn't fucking do it.
>>46045990
It's the cheapest it's been since March 14! Who knows when it might spike again?
>>46045183
>the being in the blind eternities is pissed that Ulamog and Kozilek were destroyed by mortals
>makes Emrakul take on a new incarnation
>Emrakul, the Aeons Planeswalker
>>46045990
I just bought the MM2 foil for $50 and called it a day
>>46046055
I hit something almost swaggier a few days ago, so really? I think I'm set.
>>46045990
>$130
Just skip a draft once a month and then treat yourself.Rationalize all your purchases!Surprisingly, buying foils instead of pizza and whisky has made me a lot healthier too.
>>46042008
>People at my store playing with Tier 1 decks and/or expedition playsets in their decks
>They drive shitboxes and are generally unkempt
I don't get it
>>46046130
Filtered
>>46046075
Isnt she already a planeswalker though?
How did she leave zendniggar via planeswalking if shes not a planeswalker?
>>46046130
>>They drive shitboxes
Hey, I know people who make six figures and drive shitboxes made in the early 90s. Some people just want something for "A to B."
>>46046164
that's just what the Eldrazi Titans are... they're entities that stalk the Blind Eternities and project themselves onto planes as they devour mana
>>46046130
Car payments are a huge burden, some people will drive a car until it breaks down just to avoid it.
No debt it really nice.
Should I buy Noble Heirarchs and finish Infect, or buy Glimmervoids and finish Affinity? Or buy Lilies and finish my baby, MBC?
>>46046210
So how did Ulamog and Cozy die if they're just projections?
>>46046217
is*
how close are we from spirit tribal being viable in modern? the new card that gives all spirits flash plus Eidolon of Rhetoric and Aether Vial seem playable. plus we can jam in Geist and some removal and countermagic to tempo them.
>>46046220
Lili has to be reprinted, so don't buy those yet.
How can bogles be made more budget aside from dropping horizon canopy
>>46046257
What if I can get one for $80?
>>46046279
I dont think you can cut anything else without the deck suffering a lot.
>>46046257
Lili will never see a reprint
>>46046130
>clean-shaven, short hair
>drive a 2007 vehicle
I'll honestly drive that car until it breaks down. Not doing so would be like replacing an expedition land because one of the corners is starting to white. Until that shit's ripped I'll keep playing it.IT ADDS CHARACTER
>>46046279
God damn Kor Spiritwalker has risen in price, i got them back at $5 a peice, but that was also when Daybreak Coronet was $30 a peice.
You could try Mesa Enchantress or Verduran Enchantress instead of Kor Spiritwalker. How budget are we talking here?
>>46046341
kek
>>46046341
If she does get reprinted, I'd only ever expect to see it in like, FTV: Planeswalkers
>>46046164
yeah she can planeswalk but she isn't a planeswalker in the traditional mtg sense. I think she is more a manifestation of some force of the universe than a sentient being. but it would be cool to her become a planeswalker like Nicol Bolas did.
>>46046279
You can jew out and do Silhana Ledgewalker over Kor Spiritwalker. Outside of that it really starts to suffer.
>>46046239
Geist and the hexproof Lord are enough reason to try it out. Alot of low mana cost spirit beaters at this point.
>>46046362
That's a joke to you?
blood moon goblins with goblin king instead of chieftain. new op meme deck coming to meta near you
>>46046424
She'll be reprinted in the next modernmasters or possibly eternal masters.
>>46046341
>>46046362
>>46046385
lets have some hope for MM17 guys
Opinions on this plains?
I think it looks the best out of all the zendikars
>>46046441
>>46046446
Better off just buying her now
>>46046478
John AvonZendikar basicsare the best.
>>46046505
>no John Avon Wastes basic land
It hurts. At least pic related matches the John Avon style a LITTLE bit.
>>46046356
It's about 340 without canopys so I Dunno, under 300 would be nice, at the very least what is the core I need to play that I can upgrade with less necessary bits
>>46046718
Bogles is lame and boring fyi
>>46046011
So a hetero lumberjack then.
>>46046356
Mesa enchantress is going to be the preferred option right?
>>46046718
Excluding lands looks like you would be able to build it for under $300 just run cheapo lands, and i have this deck built and i kind of agree with >>46046750
Also one again, holy shit this deck is expensive now, like when did that happen? It used to be one of the go to cheapo modern decks.
>>46046750
I just want to get an affordable deck
Already have Naya burn and 8whack, I want to build outside of red
>>46046794
What would be a fun cheap deck to build
I have burn and 8whack, is infect fun?
>>46043849
1. Lili
2. Karn
3. Flip Jace
4. Everyone else
The rest only saw marginal play, even before eldrazi. The meta before the pt shows that just because twin is banned doesn't mean that 4 drops suddenly become good in modern. Maybe Ajani is playable since he's good against aggro, but the rest seem pretty bad
>>46046835
I would suggest B/W tokens or MonoU tron because that is what i have built and love them a bunch. But they're not all that cheap now and days though.
But a more classic MonoU Tron would probablly be pretty cheap could probably get something pretty good in the $200 range.
Otherwise Idk, you could always build some cheap, bad, and gimmicky deck to just mess around with.
>>46046863
>3. Flip Jace
Flip Jace is not good. Hes just jammed in every UW control, because people are ashamed at how much they spent on him for Standard. He basically turns on peoples lightning bolts that would otherwise be dead against you, and there are going to be A TON of bolts after the Eldrazi ban. He's at his best in Grixis as only a 1 or 2 of, at most.
Also the results show that after Twin got banned, people started playing a lot more 4-6 CMC planeswalkers from Ajani to big Elspeth.
>>46046505
Jon Avon anything is best. I pick my land based on what I think fits with the theme of the deck... and it's usually a John Avon work.
>>46042008
I somehow foiled Memeskai Combo
Only using FNM Gitaxian Probe and Serum Vision and the rest is normal foil (fetch and shock included).
How fucked am I?
>>46046921
I've never really looked at his flip side, and yeah he really doesn't seem that great. You get to loot a little and flashback maybe 1 spell. Why the shit is he $90.
>>46046835
infect is not cheap. thats like $40 for each noble hierarch, $20+ for each inkmoth nexus, plus fetches and shocks. unless you want to build a mono green budget version.
I dont know about fun but I remember Soul Sisters and B/W Tokens being not that expensive and having budget replacements.
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-95-36-tix-modern-white-black-tokens
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/developing-competitive-modern/490942-soul-sisters
>>46046921
>4-6 CMC planeswalkers
ok
he was great in grixis pre-ban but maybe he's worse now
none of the other planeswalkers are any good either though
>>46046964
>>46046921
aah forgot the link
http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=11437&f=MO
you can look at other modern tournaments from the time after the ban but before the pt, and it's all aggro
>>46046956
Standard
>>46046964
>>46046975
Hes definitely worse now. Only playable as a 4-of in Vintage. His price is gonna TANK after he rotates out.
And yeah I'm not saying those walkers are dominant, I'm just saying you're seeing a lot more big Elspeths, Gideon Juras, etc ever since the Twin banning. They're not all over the place, but there's a lot more than before(as in when there were 0 of them).
>>46046955
Seriously, from all the decks available, why the fuck would you foil a Jeskai Combo deck? Do you like to lose? Fuck even Lantern Control is a better choice than that trash deck.
>>46046960
You gotta check Inkmoth Nexus agaim m8, it is 40$ now.
Is Grishoalbrand tier 2?
>>46047075
its about to be 1
theres a blood moon/damnation variant thats wrecking face
>>46046505
>find John Avon land I want
>TCGplayer only has 1-ofs from 12 different vendors
>buy them all and wait
>USPS comes to my door today
>hands me a small plastic bag full of cheap-ass bubble mailers and stiff envelopes
>carrier wonders if I'm running some kind of ebay business
>"y-you too"
>>46047137
thats just because of Eldrazi tho, I think that line gets weaker once the ban happens. Any chance it gets banned? Infect has been on stream for years now getting turn 3 and sometimes turn 2 kills, but they haven't touched it.
Here's the current tier modern meta.
>>46047057
It has polarizing matchups, but it's definitely not shit.
>plays an eidolon (either one desu)
>plays an abrupt decay
>plays graveyard hate vs dredge
It can outrace most decks, it's pretty fragile but it's by far the fastest combo deck in the format. Not even Ad Naus nor Living End is as consistently fast.
>>46046955
What's your list?is it loamskai
>>46047212
>burn tier 1
haha, no
>>46047215
*forgot about instant reanimator decks, those are technically faster with fairly consisten t1looting/lightningaxe t2goryo
>>46047215
The fact that >>46046955 foiled a shit tier deck that depends on one enchantment that can be abrupt decay and then surgical extracted when he could get a tier 2/1 deck with that money.
You are doing a good fucking job dude.
Unless he poop money, it is a total waste of fucking money.
>>46047334
If he has fun with the deck who are you to say it's a waste of money?
>>46047334
>that depends on one enchantment that can be abrupt decay and then surgical extracted
Not that guy, but that's why you run wish and 1 in the SB.
>>46047362
Would you foil that deck?
>>46047371
I played vs that deck at fnm with my Jund deck and I always win 2-0. Even our best player said the deck is bad, and the guy is a pro player.
The deck is too vulnerable its not worth it.
>>46047334
Jeskai has a certain flavor to it that could justify foiling. It feels like yugioh. This is a dank feeling in mtg.
Anyone here play Hearthstone too?
>>46047542
fuck off back to your shithole
>>46047462
It's vulnerable vs burn and BGx. It's not a bad deck though.
Burn is vulnerable to Soul Sisters (red leyline op tho)
Burn is also vulnerable to, imo, a good delver list (UR or Grixis)
Delver can just load up on 1cmc countermagic and bolts and grind burn out.
Serious question, as someone interested in a eternal format where his cards wouldnt rotate out like standard.
I have not played in probably 10 years. I dont have any of the staples saved, like good duel lands and such.
HOW is a new player suposed to get into this??! I put together what looked like a fun deck, told its t1.5 or so, and when I add the price up CONSERVATLEY its 700 dollars. Now I understand there are budget decks, And some of them are actually good. But many decks are 600+ dollars.
How are you suposed to attract new players? What do I do if I want to make a deck this month instead of by the end of the year? Buying one or two cards when you can afford it is all good, but this is getting silly.
I love the format, but i just cannot justify these prices.
>>46047212
Bogles is still T2. Just not as many people playing it right now, which is amazing considering it has a really good matchup against Eldrazi.
>>46047617
>new players
NOOBS GET OUF OF MY FORMAT REEEEEEEEE
THANK YOU BASED BARRIER TO ENTRYseriously though prices are out of fucking hand
>>46047617
You pay it once and then you're done. You maybe add in a playset of the dankest new tech, but that's it. You're also picking a popular (read: in demand) deck. If you play something jankier or budget, you can get costs way down. Mono-red burn may not be top tier without Goblin Guides but it is certainly doable if all you are doing is FNM.
You'll easily burn through $700 in Standard after a rotation or two. People justify the cost because they either Draft and use the cards to make a deck, or they think that $200 for 6-12mo is somehow more justifiable.
But even if you just do Limited every week at FNM, fluctuates from $520-780 depending on where your shop falls from $10-15 for Draft/Sealed.
It was an easy choice for me. I just happened to pick the Modern deck that also works well in Legacy with a few tweaks.
>>46047617
Bolttest.dec
im looking for some neto obscure wincons for my grixis goodstuff/control
im trying:
tasigur
big mouth bass
keranos
faglord silumgar
master of cruelties
ghastlord
thraxmundar
unsythe
nickle ebola
gimme some real outa left feild grixis win cons to test out
>>46047856
I always thought pic related was a neat card.
Alternatively, if you want to be as DANK as possible, go creatureless except for snapcaster, and have your wincon be Runic Repetition + Mystic Retrieval + Lighting Bolt, over and over and over.
>>46048067
this card is amazing in mizzix EDH
>>46045623
I already own "every deck".
I've gone through MTGtop8 and gathered the cards for every modern deck I've seen there.
I've gathered every card from the first 40 or so pages of "most played" cards in modern.
I'm currently selling my decks to buy legacy staples and commander foils. Every 3 months, one or two of my decks get banned. I've given up.
The idea was to get the ultimate card pool, a playset of every modern playable card. So that I could build any deck I want on a whim.
But yeah, given that up. Currently trading shit for expedition foils and duals, or straight out selling them.
>>46043989
By that logic, you could 0, flip into -1, flip into 0, rinse and repeat. That would be... Less that optimal for the sake of the game.
>>46048188
>>46043989
>2RG
>make 2/3 wolves
>bolt twice
>either give a creature +2/+2 and vigilance haste (2 wolves), or all creatures +1/+1 trample until end of turn (3 wolves)
>left with a 1 devotion planeswalker
Are you implying this is somehow broken?
>>46048280
Oh wait,left with 2 devotion planeswalker*
Alternatively, make 3 wolves and bolt 3 times for 2RG.
>>46048280
>Sorcery
>2RG
>Put 3 2/2 wolf creature tokens onto the battlefield.
>Deal 3 damage to target creature or player. Repeat this process twice.
>Can also do less, but do something similar next turn.
>For 4 CMC.
Yes.
>>46048067
while i like call the skybreaker cus i get waay too mcuh lands at the late game but i feel like either option is still way too expensive to really work
>>46048150
For me there's always one deck I like to play, and consequently I play it very well.
I've played a lot of the other meta decks proxied or borrowed, to get a feel for them and because playing a deck is the best way to learn to counter it.
I just don't find them as fun, in part because I don't have the experience with them. I'd get EXP foils but Iam mono :^) maybe foil unhinged?
I've seriously been considering running Esper control, slightly more midrangey. Can anyone a test to this deck being decent? I love drawing cards, and no modern deck does it better, idk, can anyone tell me if it's worth a shot?
>>46048598
Esper Control is a strong deck. The main strike against it is that it is very difficult to play for very little competitive gain. Kinda like Doomsday in Legacy compared to ANT or TES.
What list were you considering?
>>46047628
Because it's really fucking boring and hate out easily
It only does as well as it does because no one expects it and don't have enchantment destruction in their sideboard
Now that everyone in u/w eldrazi is playing worship people are running enchantment hate
>>46047542
I used to but It's just so shit compared to magic I can't bring myself to play it much anymore
>>46048327
>can be bolted
Kek
>>46048631
Pretty stock list.
I was thinking something like
25 land
2x Snapcaster
1x Batterskull
1x Ashiok
1x White Sun's Zenith
1x Clique
3x Verdict
3x Path
2x Spell Snare
4x Esper Charm
4x Think twice
2x Logic Knot
3x Cryptic
1x Murderous Cut
2x Mana leak
1x remand
1x slaughter pact
2x Sphinx's Rev
1x dispel
Something like that
>>46048715
Looks like a good start.
Only changes I'd really recommend would be
-1 ashiok
-1 dispel
+1 spell snare
+1 land
Dispel doesn't do as much for our deck as the other blue shells. We don't really need to protect our creatures, and G1 we don't even need to win counter wars because we attack the hand with Esper Charm and force them to use their counters.
If you're on the WSZ/Rev plan, you should be playing the 26th land. It will help you hit all your colors while also playing 2/3 Ghost Quarters.
I'm not a fan of Mana Leak, but some people run it.
For reference, pic related is my current list.
>>46045177
There usually is, but it tends to get less interest during modern season.
>>46048834
What do you think about the thing in ice?
>>46046341
She'll probably see a reprint in an eternal set, but I can't see her ever appearing in a standard playable set.
>>46048834
Any particular reason you gq over tec edge? Is it cause of turn 3 trons?
>>46046505
>Tfw met John at GP London last year
>Tfw queued for an hour for him to sign my Zendikar basics
>Tfw he signed the dark parts of the art in black ink
>>46048834
2 more questions. Do you find the 4 snares always good, and if so what's your meta, and also what's your board?
>>46048834
Not a fan of the godless shrine over a basic unless you need to cast a BB spell and still contribute to WW for verdict/rev.
>>46045733
Hi. I've been a collector/dealer of foils for over ten years now. You think the price memory and retention rate of Modern and/or Legacy is bad? Try dealing with blingfags all the time - you'll laugh your ass off at what some of them think their bling should be worth.
It's hilariously common to see people holding a straight face while expecting a mark-up of x4/x5, when comparing it to the base price of a card. Imagine their crushed dreams when most dealers/vendors only off them a multiplier of x2 (x3 if your lucky) at best.
Many fail to realise that - while yes, the target audience has more disposable income - the market for foils is really small. Just not alot of people want them. When it comes to foils, the 'holds value better'-argument only applies to the collecting part.
>>46048866
I don't think it's a fit for our deck, and I think it's generally a bit over-hyped.
One of the strengths of Esper Control is that we blank all of our opponents spot removal G1. TITI will just be a magnet for whatever path/decay/dismember/terminate would otherwise be rotting in your opponent's hand most of the game.
It could find it's way into a midrange strategy in any number of color combinations though, including Esper. It might be the "tough" 2-drop (like SFM or Goyf) that Esper or UWR need to be competitive again.
On the other hand, it's a weak top deck and it requires "set up" that Tasigur, Goyf, and the like don't.
>>46048911
Turn 3 Tron is a big reason, but there's also Shadow of Doubt blowouts, and generally GQ just being a bit more effecient with our resources.
The 1 mana activation doesn't seem like a lot, until it's the one mana that keeps you from Snap->Crypticing your way to saftey, or any number of mana intensive plays.
We cast path so many times that one extra basic is usually irrelevant.
>>46048936
Meta-wise 4 snare is usually great, but running 3 and another removal spell is good too. The card provides huge tempo advantage, wins a surprising number of counter wars, and answers a lot of the formats most dangerous cards.
The sideboard is the vertical cards on the right side.
>>46048941
I like having the extra black source even if I don't need BB most of the time just so I can reliably cast Esper Charm.
Also BB is useful for throwing 2 Charms at people to eat their hand.
>>46048973
Why would I ever sell to a dealer and get ripped off when I can sell the card myself?
>>46048975
How do you feel about mystical teachings?
>>46049022
One or two won't ruin the deck, but it's not really optimal.
If we include Snapcasters, then 18-20 of your cards draw you one or more cards, so the deck is incredibly consistent as is.
The additional utility of a toolbox isn't worth the price of playing a clunky 4 mana do-nothing card.
>>46048973
They probably see examples like 7th edition foils, brainstorm, daze, and the like and expect other foils to be as pricey.
>>46043589
>to end her forever
>or so he thought!
>next time on super best friends planswalker titans go!
>Avacyn gets resurrected
<yes
>>46048975
Why not just play 2 checklands then? Drowned catacombs is nice, and realistically you want every non-basic to tap for blue.
>>46049082
Considering how long our games can go, we want to make sure that there are more fetchable lands than fetchlands, to minimize the chances of drawing totally dead fetches late in the game.
Considering you're going to fetch for blue shocks first anyway, 20 blue sources is plenty.
>>46049122
There's literally no reason to have a godless shrine, then? Drawing it early is terrible. You want consistency and shrine definitely doesn't provide that. To each their own though I guess. I'd much rather have the 2nd plains to get off of GQ or to take no damage fetching when it matters.
>>46049122
>considering
>considering
>considering
fuck I need to go to bed
>>46049157
It gives you options in the mid game when you might need a black source but also want to guarantee that you have WWW for WSZ. It's also useful G2 when you side in Thoughtseize and side Cryptic out against combo decks and the like.
>>46046427
I can actually see that being a thing. Keep it in the sideboard, then change the deck in game 2.
>>46049081
....black Avacyn?
>What is your main deck?
Slivers
>Do you want to foil your deck?
If I had the money
>How much of your deck is foiled?
Sliver Hivelord and about 9-10 other cards.
>>46047167
Small creatures are the easiest entity to interact with so there's that, if anything they should reban elf to prevent t2 kills.
>>46046231
Their projections died I guess.
>>46042008
Tempted to buy foil Lava Spikes and sell them back when Eldrazi gets banned and Burn becomes big again.
>>46047697
>you're done
Unless you happen to pick one of the decks that gets axed every year.
>>46047617
Just get into Legacy mate, you pay betseen 800 (Dredge) and 2500 (Lands) once for a deck that will neither get the axe nor drop in price and an infinitely more diverse and interesting format that isn't decided by whether you draw your sideboard.
>>46050065
It's real easy to not pick that deck though.
>Does it have a ridiculous share of the meta?
>Do people complain about it on a regular basis?
Then don't pick it! My deck's never been hit and I've played with it for a few years now.
>>46042008
Still trying to figure out a nice way to include a singleton VClique outside of EDH. Foil Japanese mythics are too swag to just sit in a binder.
Maybe Bant Knightfall to drop it off a CoCo?
>>46042008
>What is your main deck?
Protean Hulk Reanimator
>Do you want to foil your deck?
Nope, still have a manabase to finish
>How much of your deck is foiled?
The promo mogg fanatic, the flavor text is just to good to pass.
>>46049001
You wish to sell your cards individually over an extended period of time? Go ahead, more power to you. Most of the time vendors/dealers get visited by people who want to reorganise/clean their collection in bulk anyhow (ie. dump a deck and pick up a new one). In those cases the time you save is more then worth the hassle.
>>46049051
7e is an oddity in and of itself. It's printrun is so low, so automatically it becomes a target for collecters. For example just look at P3K.
>>46050058
I would advice against this. 'MTG Financing', even if it's a thing, is all about leverage and patience.
>>46050091
Amulet had neither a ridiculous meta share nor was the majority of people on the side of killing it, Hive Mind ban to avoid uninteractable t1 kills would have been enough. Same thing with Twin, they could have just banned Exarch to put the combo to lightning bolt/K-command range.
>>46042008
>What is your main deck?
>implying I only have one deck
>>46050550
Neither needed a ban at all. Bloom is understandable from a logistics point of view, but really didn't need it. (If you don't truly know the deck it's virtually impossible to know if your opponent isn't cheating) That's literally it's biggest sin.
>>46050190
I honestly prefer the original.
>>46051089
You had no issue with non-games that ended as soon as you looked at your opening 7?
>>46051285
Dumb decks that end the game right away with their opening hand are still and will always be a thing, it's no reason to start banning everything because we don't live in magical christmas land and won't be getting these hands every game.
Fairly new to Modern here. Building Naya burn slowly, just wondering if I'm better off getting spells or fetches first.
>>46051471
No one's suggesting banning _everything_ but Oops All Spells/I win on t1 is not something that should exist in Modern.
>>46051525
Fetches are better overall value and fit into any deck in the appropriate colors, if you have more than one functioning brain cell you'll get bored of Burn in about a week.
>>46051285
If you knew what you were found the deck was VERY easy to disrupt. Also on the note of twin, banning it also killed jund. Their "format diversity" ban killed more decks than it gave room for which is hilarious.
>>46051645
If you're lucky enough to get; SSG, amulet, UG karoo, hive mind, pact, summer's bloom, all in your opening hand why not.
>>46051660
>If you knew what you were found the deck was VERY easy to disrupt.
You literally cannot disrupt a turn1 Hive Mind on the draw without having a Pact of Negation into two SSGs into Manamorphose into Angel's Grace, on the play you need Spell Snare.
Why hasn't wizards put counterspell in modern?
>>46051685
Because rolling a die to determine the winner instead of playing an actual game is fucking retarded?
>>46051692
>>46051704
You realize the odds of that hand are less than 1% right?
>>46051645
>>46051704
The only way to truly stop it from happening is to have FoW in modern. But we don't have FoW so we'll just have to deal with unfair, luck-based shit.
What Tron variant should i play? I was thinkingtooth and nailtron
>>46051737
G/r tron. Anything else is a retarded choice
>>46051723
So what? It's still a possibility that has no need to exist.
>GP finals
>g1 play normally, win
>g2 sorry bud I almost had to play out post-sideboard but take a look at this 7 right here, outplayed am I right or am I right?
You're seriously for something like this?
>>46051748
But that's boring anon
>>46051754
Not him but static decks like that can change metas and top 8s in usually stagnant metas. It slightly increases diversity of the meta by giving a deck that doesn't usually but sometimes just wins.
Any arguement regard badwrongfun is stupid, at competitive levels like gps it doesn't/shouldn't matter if the deck is fun to play against. Players there aren't inclined to make it fun, they are there to win.
>>46044154
So when she transforms back she's naked?
Best Milf planeswalker
>>46051783
Winning packs and crushing scrubs isn't boring
>>46051798
No. But net decking g/r tron sounds boring
>>46051823
Play a format where you can not needed like edh, modern is competitive.
>>46051833
[Unzips tipped fedora]
>>46051833
*netdeck
Damn love that autocorrect
>>46051833
Non netdecked edh. Ahaha you make me laugh Anon, good one.
The biggest modern meme pile of 2016.
4 Flooded Strand
1 Polluted Delta
1 Godless Shrine
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Watery Grave
5 Plains
4 Island
2 Swamp
2 Prairie Stream
1 Unburial Rites
4 Hedron Crab
3 Sidisi's Faithful
3 Viscera Seer
4 Magus of the Bazaar
4 Ideas Unbound
4 Blood Artist
1 Bloodthrone Vampire
2 Zulaport Cutthroat
2 Nether Traitor
4 Rally the Ancestors
4 Bridge from Below
2 Gifts Ungiven
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
//SB
3 Tidehollow Sculler
2 Darkblast
1 Felidar Cub
1 Keening Apparation
2 Faerie Macabre
2 Dispel
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
3 Lingering Souls
>>46052283
Esper rally with unburial gifts package? Have you played this?
>>46052330
Yeah, its surprisingly fun all things considered. Needs some work on it before its really a half decent deck but it takes a shit on decks with little to no hand/graveyard disruption. Burn, tron, eldrizzle, etc.
Heavily doubt it'll ever be a tier 2 or above deck though.
>>46050190
What's your list bro? I used to run Footsteps Hulk and I had a lot of experience with it.
