Magic: The Gathering Modern General - GAY LUMBERJACK EDITION
How is everyone preparing for the post-eldrazi world ?
Supplemental question: How foiled is your deck?
http://strawpoll.me/7082637
i heard you loose in turn 4 so i play 8 wrath cards in main cmc4
>>46015939
I'm just missing the foil snapcasters and I figure they'll be reprinted in the next year or two so I might as well wait
>play mountain
>Orcish Lumberjack
>end turn
>next turn
>play forest
>play another Orcish Lumberjack
>end turn
>next turn
>play Cinder Glade
>add R, R, F to mana pool
>use two R to play Pyretic Ritual or whatever other single turn mana ramp there is
>use Orcish Lumberjacks' abilities
>play Ulamog
MODERN IS DEAD
>>46016260
Who /DREDGE/ here?
>>46016370
Nah, too boring.
More of an 8 rack guy myself
why is this little shit $30
>>46016409
>Nah, too boring. I only play decks that durdle for at least 25 minutes per game.
>>46016457
8 rack wins quickly if you don't suck
>>46015892
Mardu Midrange with Nahiri and Avacyn
>>46016370
Been piloting the deck since last week.
It's a fun deck to play, very interactive and can win out of nowhere.
It does fold vs RIP unless you draw ray of Revelation and/or memory's journey. It's surprisingly good vs Eldrazi because of Pharaoh
>>46016452
well I mean it's already a full art which is a step up from a plain old basic, adding that it's a foil and a foil island, i mean only a pretentious faggot would foil out their shitty control deck anyway
>>46016098
>I path the exile your Ulamog:^)
>>46015892
I'm just going to keep playing the same decks even though I haven't been able to play modern for several months.
>>46016452
looks cool with the foil
Junk Boggle with Dark Confidant? Everything costs 2 or less, and at worst he forces your opponent to keep targeted removal in-deck. Seems alright goldfished.
>>46016894
>bogles
>>46016624
I get your point but it still takes out two of your lands, and leaves him with one more because of the path
>>46016894
Seems terrible, why would you waste time playing him for draw when you have Kor Spiritdancer and Keen Sense? That should be enough draw. If you really want more draw splash blue add curiosity and make big hexproof with geist and the 2 drop unblockable dude.
>>46015939
Missing inquisitions, Thoughtseize, lands and lilianas. Idk if I should go cheap fag and get the promos or get the innistrad ones.
>>46017200
So you're missing all the actually valuable cards?
>>46017230
Yep just started foiling last week. Non are a problem just the lilies don't know if go innistrad or promos to save 100$ each.
>>46016370
Deck looks fun to play but not sure if it's any good.
>>46017315
It's not and never will be. Yard hate is too easy to play
>>46015892
Brewing Kiki Coco, looking good
>>46017200
Don't waste your time and money foiling out a deck that will never be viable bro
>>46017462
Actually looks decent. Don't know if I would have CoCo.
>>46017200
Some dude was offering a pair of $55 foil card NM for $30 each on TCGplayer. Has about 50 sales but 100% feedback.
Am I getting Chinese proxies printed on aluminum?
>>46017532
But it is and the valuable cards go into my legacy Pox deck c:. So I don't really lose breh. >>46017532
>>46015892
is this a real card? why is an orc on innistrad?
>>46017587
It's real, it's not modern legal, and it isn't from innastrad.
>>46017587
Does that look like the fucking Innistrad set symbol? Any of them?
>>46017633
weebs pls go
What decks are stony silence sideboarded against, I run a lot of artifact destruction so I'm not sure I need the stony silence sideboarded
I run 4 destructive revelry and one smash to smithereens. It used to be 4 revelry 2 smash and 1 stony silence but I dropped the stony silence and 1 smash for 2 pyroclasm (might change to anger of the gods?) because I didn't have any wipe effects.
I'm playing burn so I don't want to waste too many burns on a matchup that goes wide.
Would it be a good idea to drop a revelry for another smash to smithereens? My land base makes green kind of inconsistent
Should stony silence stay in in favor of spending else?
>>46017532
8 rack is strong. How do you play with no hand?
>>46017544
Yhea I'm still conflicted about it. It's amazing for making a board to chord the next turn but it forces me to play a bunch of <3 CMC creatures instead of spells.
Still love the concept anyway.
>>46017656
weebs pls stay
>>46017662
Lantern and Affinity mostly.
Tron if you don't have anything better.
Stony Silence shuts down Affinity pretty hard tho. Archbound is a lot weaker, it shuts down their ramp... If you manage to resolve a SS turn two against Affinity it's pretty much a garanteed win unless you get mana screwd or something.
Also, since you are playing boros burn, you might try something like Deflecting Palm and Lightning Helix and just damage race your opponent.
>>46017462
cut coco and maybe 1 kiki, add 4th chord and 3-4 singleton toolbox or value cards like reveilark, linvala, fiend hunter etc
>>46017462
>filename
gave me a good chuckle
>>46017804
>>46017544
Is CoCo that bad of an idea ? It makes Chording on turn 4-5 fairly easy or adds board presence at the very least.
>>46017796
I'm actually playing Naya and yeah deflecting palm is cool I have 3 sideboarded, hilarious against through the breach
I have 4 lightning helix mainboard but I notice a lot of lists only run 2 for some reason?
>>46017967
Yea already talked to my peers because I lied the concept. Without saying anything they both said he should cut CoCo
>>46017462
Should play at least 1 resto so you can go chord e wit - chord resto - chord Kiki and for all the etb creatures you have.
>>46018056
Liked *
>>46017662
I like using Ghor-clan rampager as a cool combat trick in creature/blocking intensive matchups. Removal+damage
>>46017462
Nigger you have 25 coco hits and 6 of those are mana dorks. Also your deck has no late game. If you're gonna go coco chord go anafenza, either that or drop coco and get your shit together
How do I learn to play Magic? Is there a Teach Yourself® Magic the Gathering®Theory book or something?
Bearing in mind I want to learn the game, not hang out and ""have fun"" with some smelly nerds at the local comic book store. I already have cool friends
>>46018264
Who are you gonna play with?
Magic Duels on Steam is the current l2p product I think
>>46018264
Watch YouTube videos. Buy duels of the planeswalkers 2013. That series teaches you all the basics and 2013 is the best IMO.
>>46018057
Yhea thanks, seems to be a good idea.
>>46018056
>>46018099
Won't the deck suffer from a lack of card draw without CoCo tho ?
>>46018324
Magic Duels has some custom rules regarding deckbuilding and phases tho.
>>46018264
Buy a dueldeck and get a "cool" friend to learn to play with you or play magic origins in an app store or steam
>>46018324
I plan to play with faceless dorks online until I git gud enough to go sweep the prizes at whatever MTG stink convention that's happening nearest me
>>46018325
>>46018376
That sounds suspiciously like something I would do if I wanted to ""have fun""
I want to git gud, not sling some cards and brag about being the best Magic player at my kitchen table
>>46018375
Kiki chord is literally infinite value.dec
You don't need that much card draw. If you do, play wall of omens.
>>46018464
Do you know the basics already?
>>46018464
Can't get gud until you learn the rules scrub.
>>46018418
If you're trying to get into magic to win money off it, don't.
>>46018487
>>46018495
yes
>>46018523
seems like a good way to make a little extra cash on the side while simultaneously crushing the dreams of some obese sperglords
>>46016894
not worth it, if you want to splash then splash blue, as you get access to: geist, spectral flight, invisible stalker, curiosity, aqueous form.
>>46018575
Literally you will always lose to obese sperglords.
>>46018575
Research some deck, find what you want to play. Id wait until after the April banlist announcement to buy anything though.
>>46018575
Good luck even making back the money you're going to spend on a playset of tarmogoyfs, retard. You really have no idea what you're getting into. Or do you think you're just going to walk into the GP and win with your mono-black discard shitbrew? Unless you're hired by Star of David Games or Channel Fire Goy, that is a terrible way of making money.
>>46018575
this is cute
Buy a playset of this card. It's the best card
>>46018720
Pls don't say bad things about black discard
>>46018643
>losing to ""people"" who aren't even smart enough to wash themselves
I don't think so pal
You've been fortunate until now, nerd, that your silly little card game has escaped attention and intelligent alpha males have focused their energies on games with higher prestige or financial reward
If you play burn at fnm you are the scum of the earth. No I'm not butthurt, yeah I have lost to burn, we all have. I just legitimately cannot understand why anyone would want to spend a few hours of their life playing a burn deck. I can see how you'd bring it to a tournament, that much is understood, but why fnm? You either fire off your burn spells nice and fast and win, or they gain some life and you sit there like a retard drawing mountains. I really just don't get why anyone would be enough of a faggot to play a burn deck, when it's just a few magic packs on the line. You should probably just wrap your lips around a revolver and do the world a favor.
>>46018803
Have fun spending 2000$ on deck and then losing to some autistic kid in the first round of a GP. I'll be rooting for you!
>>46018831
But it's the best control deck in modern.
>>46018831
>No I'm not butthurt
bullshit
>>46018803
ayy lmao
Has anyone ever sold stuff to Channel Goyimball?
They're offering a decent return in store credit on some money cards I want to sell. I'd go to my local store, but they don't have shit I want to buy.
>>46018776
>223x310
>>46018908
They grade your cards extremely harshly and give you shit in return. Just sell on ebay.
>>46018867
Actually UWR is the best and that's what I play and I'm not butthurt cause I literally never lose to burn. Every once in a while yes, but they really do not have a good matchup against me.
>>46018866
>autistic kid
I think you'll find that true autists tend to pursue more worthwhile endeavours like the sciences and arts. What you think are autists are just regular old nerds, the lowest rung of the social ladder. Nerds are stupid and easy to take advantage of.
I'm not here to take part, I'm here to take over. I'm going to eat up all your Pro Tour points. YUM YUM. You've been warned faggot.
>>46018803
It was obvious you were trolling from the first post but people here are so stupid they'll believe you
>>46018831
wew lad.
Can't you understand that for some people the fun is to turn creatures sideways, for other is to combo as fast as possible.
For some people it is to throw spells at your face until you're at 0 life.
Why are you so mad that some people find a different way to have fun than you do ?
On top of that, it's still the cheapest competitive deck out there...
>>46018831
It was the cheapest competitive build to make
If more interactive fun decks were cheaper it wouldn't be an issue
Burn is fun anyway so don't be a little whiner
>>46018996
>yum yum
August detected
>>46018950
Oh shit we've found the butthurt "control" player.
>>46019006
More like we need to feed the troll or the thread will die with no replies because MODERN IS DEAD.
>>46018831
I don't understand what the problem is. I play against Burn and I find it's pretty underwhelming.
>>46019081
WHERE IS MUH BOLT ???????!!!!!!!!!
>>46019034
>>46019053
>guy trying to play UW control in modern
>gets mad when other people have fun
>>46019109
Bogles players are cancerous faggot
>>46019109
>a boggles player enters the store
>>46015892
When mana drain modern legal
>>46019109
>deflecting Palm
Get wrekt bogles
>>46019117
Welcome to Nu-Modern anon. Only aggro. No interaction. Final destination.
>>46019006
I'm not trolling, I'm just here for your knowledge.
I'll absorb what I feel is useful and spit out the rest because ewww nerd knowledge.
I reckon for a strapping intelligent lad like me with a healthy support network it will take me 18 months tops from where I am, just knowing the basic rules and having played a few games, to get to the top of the Magic the Gathering pile
>>46019057
I'm not August, whoever she is.
But if you wish you can give me a name that I can use to identify myself to you when I'm a world famous nerdslayer.
>>46019131
Classic control players
>>46019109
At least post kitchen finks so you don't look like some manbaby boggles playing mouthbreather.
>>46019206
The game have to be fun for me, not for you
>>46019109
It's not that I dont beat it, it's just so fucking boring to play against and stupid to pilot.
>>46019077
Not butthurt, just think you're a faggot
>>46019034
If your idea of fun is playing the same 1 mana 3 damage spell over and over all night with the occasional creature than you're a retard and I think you should have been killed before birth
Also it's a 900 dollar deck now so suck my dick faggot, could have bought plenty of other decks for that
Kind of a newfag to Magic here, but I went ahead and made my first deck and I was wondering if I could get some critique?
http://pastebin.com/AYJnpPAD
>>46019196
You really need to try harder
>>46019196
Here's your (You)
>>46019034
>t's still the cheapest competitive deck out there...
>meme stompy (that actually styles on mono-burn post sideboard)
>8whack
I'm not so sure Tim.
>>46019251
Do you want the bullying or the nice answer?
>>46019237
Lol but playing your deck takes so much thought and you only play one ofs so you don't cast the same one too many times?
>>46019251
Nice pile of shit bruh
>>46019260
That's what I plan to do you fucking dimwit
That's how you achieve things. By trying. And if it's not working then you try harder. Or didn't you know that, nerd?
Jesus Christ this is going to be easier than I imagined
>>46019281
>No real result to back this up.
Sure sure man go build your shitbrews and call them "competitive"
>>46019272
I didn't come here for (You)s you prat
>>46018264
>>46019251
Werewolves haven't been relevant in forever. Nor will the be in SOI.
>>46019295
I play UWR control which has one ofs and is not just playset.dec, so yes I do think my lines are more enjoyable
>>46019339
Are you a lumberjack ?
What kind of chainsaw do you use ?
>>46019251
oh boy time to haze the newfag again
YOUR DECK IS SHIT
IT'S SHIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTT
>>46019378
Probably a Stihl
>>46019237
I don't see how someone's idea of fun is stopping someone from playing the game while attacking with a manland
Although i actually understand how all decks can be fun because I'm not a salty motherfucker
>>46019411
>manland
Reported.
>>46019251
Look up monogreen stompy, it's a cheap semi-competitive deck that can have wins, is easy to use and let's you understand the game.
>>46019355
>>46019448
I wasn't really going for relevance, just something fun to learn with, but thank you!
>>46019411
>I don't see how an intricate, interactive deck with tons of possible play lines and a higher skill level to pilot can be enjoyable
Maybe you're just not good at magic?
>>46019251
I didn't know they made competitive Intro packs
>>46019338
Then show me some results of mono red burn.
>>46019281
>decks that have become popular in the last 2 months vs a competitive tier 1 deck that has existed for over a decade
Yeah I wonder why people pick burn, so wackyi actually built 8whack as well so I really don't have any issue with what you're saying, theres not an issue with any of the decks they're all fun
>>46019394
>Not part of the jonsered masterace
>Wants to be a part of our gay lumberjack group
I hope this faggot doesn't use a stihl
>>46019474
If you're doing casual with the modern card list as a rough outline, then it might be alright if you play against like powerlevels.
If you're actually wanting to learn Modern, you will get slaughtered.
>>46019411
MANLANDS
MAN
MAN MAN
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
IM TRIGERREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED
Whats the best control deck in the format Are my JVPs good in control in this format or should I sell them now since I'm done with standard?
>>46019563All I mean is: burn isn't the cheapest borderline-competetive deck out there.
>>46019251
Take out Lightning Bolt, it's a bad card. See >>46019081 for what cards are actually good in modern.
>>46019606
Best modern control deck is Burn.
le ebin esper
>>46019598
The reason manlands bothers me is thatmost of the creature types on those lands aren't even "men"
>>46019503
Again brother, read the second part of my post, I'm not a salty motherfucker, I enjoy many decks, my point was that most decks can be summed up in a way that makes them seem mundane and boring.
Control players stall the game while building up enough land to activate colonnade
Burn players through cheap 3 damage spells At their opponent or their creatures
Midrange players just play good stuff that balances the game out
Combo players obviously are combo players
The point is, don't get salty at someone else's view of fun, tons of people hate control players but who gives a fuck, play what you enjoy and don't shit on others fun
>>46019338
Just for you anon, in b4 "it doesn't count because reasons".
>>46019364
Go away James
>>46019321
You're not funny. Do you have nothing better to do? You clearly don't have a knack for this
>>46019782
I want to understand how tapping a mountain and playing the same spell 7 times can be fun. That's the deck.
>>46019782
>Control players stall the game while building up enough land to activate colonnade
Grixis, Blue Moon, and Lantern run Colonnade?
Lel fucking failure
>>46019531
Do you mean Naya burn that top8s all the time
>>46019856
>Grixis
>>46019856
Sorry he said uwr control so i went with the version I knew best
Which also plays Geist but that's about it
>>46019901
As long as there is Combo, there will be Grixis.
>>46019868
Infect, merfolk, bogles are cheaper and get more results than naya burn.
>>46019951
the control ones usually have geist in the board if they even run it at all, you're thinking midrange
>>46019839
Yeah because were playing against a fucking dummy that doesn't build up any board state or do anything the whole game, ideally you want to play 7 bolts to the face but how often does that happen? If it did then turn 4 would be a consistent win every time, burn has to deal with creatures, find ways to deal with leyline, or challice or many of the things that just destroy burn. It's an interactive matchup and isn't even an overpowered deck so what is your issue?
>>46020066
he 0-4 his fnm with his "control" build "muh muh blue mage filthy casual playing burn reee"
>>46020042
>Bogles
>gets more results
kekeke
>>46020066
Oh wow my bad bro, I forgot they had to draw into a destructive revelry, such a fun an interactive deck, you are totally right and smart. I take back everything I've ever said about burn cause there are hate cards against them.
>>46019795
>MTGO
HUEHUEHUEHUE
Next you're gonna show me some Xmage top 8s, right?
>>46020042
Can i get a source on those results?
Fleshed out Merfolk is as expensive I believe, I don't know all the cards in infect so I can't say
And you can't shit on burn while promoting fucking infect of all decks
>>46020066
>find ways to deal with leyline, or challice or many of the things that just destroy burn.
oh come on stop bullshitting and trying to pretend your deck is difficult, everyone knows that getting around those cards isn't a fucking challenge. There's no "finding" ways, you know what your answers are, and everyone else knows what your answers are. Burn is a good deck but it's pretty braindead. There's nothing wrong with that, but at least be honest with yourself.
>>46020116
Actually I got 4th, lost to Grixis Delver. My build is fine, only thing I don't have is a 3rd tarn that I want. I shit on burn and if you had any knowledge of the game you'd understand that dispels mana leaks and helix beats burn pretty well.
>>46020150
Infect is pretty cheap. Its only significant value is in Noble Heiarchs, Inkmoths, and Fetches. The rest of the deck is under $100.
>>46020163
I'm not saying it's hard to pilot, I'm saying it is interactive and has bad matchups
>>46020118
Deal with it nigger.
>>46020207
just like my butthole
>>46020207
How is bolting a mana dork every other game interactive? Them playing a Spellskite and you shitting yourself isn't interactive
>>46020122
How is control any harder than burn to play?
>>46020221
>All those results for Hexproof are pauper
MY SIDES
>>46020221
>Attempting to bait this badly
>>46020230
How is countering a creature any more interactive that burning them?
>>46020221
Let me guess "it doesn't count as it also shows pauper", then here you go. Modern only list. Still twice as much as naya burn.
>>46020247
Is this a serious question?
>>46020352
Yes give me a serious answer
>>46020337
Those are results going back almost an entire year ago. Naya burn has WAY more results if you go back even just 4 months compared to your 10.
>>46020297
I play 4 counters.
Spell Snare
Mana Leak
Remand
Cryptic
Literally all of those spells have entirely different scenarios in which they are useful and which they should be played. If you honestly want then I can explain to you how not spell snareing an Eidolon turn 3 can be beneficial when I run verdict, then you need to git gud.
>>46018264
Your 'cool friends' should teach you because if they're as 'cool' as you say they are, they're already rolling with Eldrazi decks
>>46020405
>>46020337
Also if you just type in burn in modern the list decimates bogles
>>46020377
No, just no. I'm not wasting my time explaining how burn is a simpler and more linear deck than the average competitive modern control deck. Just stop.
Why so much hate for bogles?
>>46020438
I play 8 different burn spells
Lava Spike
Lightning Bolt
Atarka's Command
Boros Charm
Lightning Helix
Searing Blaze
Skullcrack
Rift Bolt
Literally all of those spells have entirely different scenarios in which they are useful and which they should be played. If you honestly want then I can explain to you how not Atarka's Command on turn 2 can be beneficial when I run hasty creatures, then you need to git gud.
>>46015939
>$20 for Foil Zendikar full islands
I just can't bring myself to spend $200 on LAND.
Am I fag for liking John Avon's M11 lands?
>>46020480
>Competitive
>modern control deck
lmao nice b8 m8
>>46020438
Yeah but like you said that shouldn't need explaining, some counters are better at times than others, some burn spells are better at times than others as well, the only difference is that even if you use the wrong burn spell, it still gets value, even then if you're playing against soul sisters of course you're going to skull crack/atarkas command instead of lightning helix, and you'd probably wait till their turn to do it.
I understand your sentiment but I think you're just not giving it a chance
Running a shitty Shared Fate/Storm deck for the lols of course
>>46020579
>8 different burn spells
Just stop. Yeah you should wait until they gain life until they skullcrack, good for you, really just stop.
>that feel when you want to walk into as GP and win the shit out of it but you want the single memerific deck known to man so people try to play it afterwards and fail horribly
guys what should i play?
>>46020607
>mfw in the last 2 weeks uw control has a better meta share than burn
>>46020471
I thought we were talking about Naya burn, not all-the-flavours-of-burn-general. But then the price is a factor again - most of this decks cost 2x as much as bogles (and some of them 3 times as much). Therefore I wouldn't call it "the cheapest competetive deck".
>>46020635
There's literally nothing different about burn spells except some prevent life gain.
>mfw my kor firewalker stone walled a Swiftspear all game even though I knew he had a skullcrack
Burn players are this retarded
>>46020605
You're never a fag for liking John Avon anything. He's great.
God damn, 8 Rack makes people salty.
Every third game the guy just quits after IoK/TS into Wrench Mind
>>46020734
>Control
>Tooth and Nail
Yea I don't think fat ramp into Emrakul is control lol
>>46020740
Naya is the most expensive because of fetches, Naya has 98 results while burn has over 400
400-100=300 cheaper builds
The cheaper builds alone beat out boglesi have no problem with bogles, i actually want to build it as well
>>46020643
>using jizzum visions
kill yourself
>>46020643
this art is disgusting
>>46020859
Well yea man, that's right fucking rude. What do you even do against that??
>>46020819
And there's nothing different about counters except some bounce shit of draw a card, control and burn are two sides of the same coin
>>46015892
Orcs? Thank god, this is viable again.
>>46021147
You're a fucking retard kill yourself.
Best part about playing Burn is the salt from people when they lose to it.
"Burn isn't interactive, you just need to cast 7 sp-"
"Cool, Bolt you, Bolt you, Bolt you?"
>>46021215
Brother, you are fighting about a card game. You are an adult man and you just told someone to kill themselves over their deck preference in a children's card game.
Let that sink in for a minute and reevaluate your life and get off 4chan for a few hours.
>>46021372
This fAm. We all friends here. Sure, sometimes anon is a raging faggot, but cmon
>>46021372
It's not just about the card game anymore. This retard has proven that he is incapable of reasoning. Throughout our conversation I have deduced that he is likely mentally challenged. If he were to reproduce, he would likely produce sub par children, and their children after them. By killing himself now he can effectively create a better world for everyone, and by opting not to do so is truly entering into am act of utmost selfishness. Thereby, I think he's a faggot, and a typical burn player.
>>46021285
>isn't interactive
Why is this even an "insult", let alone a "complaint"? Magic is about getting your life down to 0. Burn does that. That's all the interaction you get in a fucking game.
So what if I don't want to play grab-ass with your blockers? Doing what you want me to do is a shitty strategy.
Crybabies are the worst.Especially when I use Foil Burn ;^)
>>46021465
angry gay lumberjack confirmed
>>46021285
>You going to keep? And you're on the play? Okay.
>STOP I HAVE EFFECTS
>>46021285
>mfw at 12 life on turn 8 against a burn player, watching him squirm as his top deck eidolon gets spell snared
So much more satisfying than you could ever understand
>>46021553
>what is destructive revelry ??
>>46021480
>magic is about getting your life down to zero
If we're talking about a burn players social life, then yes that's true. If you actuallyonly care about winning you'd play Eldrazi but I see you spent all your good boy points on your foil burn deck.
>>46021553
More like
>Mulligan to 6
>Mulligan to 5
>Mulligan to 4
>Mulligan to 3
>Keep. And you're on the play? Okay.
>STOP I HAVE EFFECTS.
>Wow I'm fucking mana screwed.
>Why is Wild Nacatl legal?
>>46021480
because the modern format can be very uninteractive and when both players are just ignoring each other they might as well be playing solitaire.
had an argument about this with an infect shitter who thinks spellskite should be banned
>>46020605
>Am I fag for liking John Avon's M11 lands?
No anon. John Avon's lands are God tier.
It is a crime that WotC is restricting full art lands to just zendikar's crazy-scape instead of letting John Avon create glorious full art masterpieces from all of the planes in the multiverse.
>>46021619
Sounds like you need to go back to the kitchentable
>>46021573
Burn can do 8 damage in 2 turns, if he did no more damage in the next 6 then he had a bad hand to begin with
>>46021619
Spellskite is based, that fag needs to kill himself.
>>46021593
Good luck getting that every time you need it.
>>46021656
>what are blockers
>what are counters
>what is life gain
>>46021658
Spellskite is a faggot. But no need to ban.
>>46021672
Yeah, I mean it's not like burn runs 14 creatures in the mean time
and even if we don't draw destructive revelry immediately, atarkas command still side steps it anyway
>>46021711
How is spellskite a faggot? All he ever did was stop shitty degenerate stuff
>>46016370
I'm worried it won't be a viable deck once they ban out eldrazi decks.
>>46017633
to be fair, the thumbnail pic does look like dark ascension.
>>46021672
Same as the chance of you having you Leyline. Even greater since he might run 4 destructive revelry while you run 3 Leyline or less.
>What is probability ?
>>46021685
>what is irrelevant when i burn your face 3 times to do 9 damage by turn 2
>not sure what counters you mean but if i did i'd say something funny
>what is skull crack or atarka's command
>>46021763
How does banning eldrazi stop dredge?
>>46021685
>>46021797
lol for some reason i was thinking of like +1/+1 counters, my bad
yeah but by turn two you really only get one counter in so still 6 damage.
>>46021797
>he doesn't know what a counter is
>>46021834
>implying I didn't dispel into mana leak into helix dispel into cryptic, and now you have no cards in hand while I'm at 23 life
>>46021878
Magical Christmas Hand : The Gathering
>>46021878
>implying I didn't sphinx rev for 15
>>46021878
Nice nut draw
Is Emeria a memedeck or can it be played competitively ?
My meta is full of Affinity, some Ad Nauseam players, some Junk/Jund, some Merfolks, some Abzan CoCo.
WHAT DO /tg/ ??? Can I meme them out ??
>>46021924
>>46021944
I was merely mimicking what the other guy said. Also that's not even that farfetched a hand, maybe 1 or 2 cards off but that's pretty reasonable. And more to the point he Christmas landed first
>>46021616
>Running Wild Nacatl
"B-b-but m-muh free b-bolt..."
>>46021983
>Thinking that 9 damage at the end of turn 2 is christmas hand for burn when half of the deck is "deal 3 damage"
kek
>>46021711
Spellskite only hoses pump spells and gets hit by both creature and artifact removal.
>>46021983
Having a 3 burn spells or even 2 burn spells and drawing into one is very consistent, nowhere near Christmas land
>>46022031
The fact of the matter is UWR has a very favorable burn matchup and o shit on fags like you all day, also no, the deck runs maybe 12 tops 1 drop 3 damage spells, so you're wrong.
>>46022077
>getting off 9 damage by turn 2 through counterspell and then skullcrack a helix
Literally how?
tfw no new good cards in wb or esper colors to enhance esper control in modern
the best esper colored cards in order: Esper Charm, Zur the Enchanter. That's all.
>tfw no return to alara
>>46021998
FREE* REPEATABLE* BOLT* :^)
>>46022166
You just got vindicate back you faggot nigger
>>46022125
Turn 1 lava spike
Turn 2 lightning bolt rift bolt
You're always going to lava spike turn one because dispel can't hit it and they probably can't counter 2 spells turn 2, so you'll likely get 6 damage in against control and 9 to any other deck
>>46022186
More like a bolt that can be countered by path/decay/another bolt/creature/rhino
>>46022233
>lose 3 life
literally unplayable
>>46022239
>Playing Lava Spike instead of Rift Bolt first
You dun fucked up now!
>>46022125
Oh I'm sorry I had trouble understanding what you meant, no you can't get 9 damage through a lightning helix but if they are lightning helixing then you can get 6 through via skull crack
Turn one lava spike turn 2 pass in response to helix skull crack
9 damage against control is less likely by turn two ill admit
>>46022262
People pay 4 life for a kill spell for 2 less mana. Honestly it's going to make grinds way fucking better for the person playing vindicate-3. I guarantee it sees play
>>46022277
>>46022277
That's true rift bolt should go first,
>>46022262
>>46022336
I'm gonna test 2 copies mainboard, but I might shift them to sideboard as replacements for the artifact hate I have in it right now.
>>46022233
>vindicate
Apparently every w/b removal spell they print now is vindicate
>>46021553
Playing Boros burn against Leyline is good fun. Your opponent thinks they're safe and then DEMYSTIFY. In my sideboard errytime
>>46022375
Enjoy losing
>>46022376
Literally what other spell have people said is vindicate?
>>46022386
>DEMYSTIFY
He doesn't know about wear//tear
>>46022386
Just run Wear and Tear, literally an upgrade over Demystify
>>46022389
This card is great in a control mirror, and hits turn 3 Lili, it's a solid card, I don't know what your angst is agains it, fucking playtesting it before you mouth off you rere
>>46016624
I get another forest
>>46022460
The one from khans
>>46022491
>control mirror
nice, because that happens sooo often. i guarantee you cut it from the main and play 1, if any at all, in the sideboard.
>>46022501
Utter end is 4 mana though
>>46022622
And some people were calling it the second coming of vindicate.
can you guys rate my shitty homebrew? I know there are some pieces that need to change and I've never actually played within the modern format, i'm just wondering what you guys think
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/bant-thaumaturge-2/
>>46021819
No one packs GY hate these days because Eldrazi just unga bungas everything, the proper line of play is to either unga bunga back or combo off. Dredge thrives in this kind of meta where no one gives a fuck about the GY except Jund
>>46022489
>>46022468
>>46022465
Oh I know about it, I just really hate those double cards. Dunno, triggers me something fierce.
