Does this mean BL has a new series to milk to oblivion?
Not really milk, they've already set the last book in the series. There will be 12 total.
It's described as GW's "big event" of the year, and the story isn't that bad desu. A lot of interesting High Lords of Terra scheming and politicking. Which I at least have always wanted to see.
>>44907760
Sorta. It's a fixed twelve novels though. One a month.
Also Imperial Fists got wiped out, they're gonna be replaced by the Fists Exemplar.
Yes. And that's fine with me. At least their not raping important established fluff or ruining beloved mysterious characters.
>>44907760
No, like the anons said, fixed amount of books. Hell, maybe we'll get a 30K compatible beast model/army. I'm liking the scary outer-orks so far.
Also as far as new 40k series go, I'm waiting on a nice AdMech v Tau book to go with the Damocles campaign.
>>44910427
Imperial Fists got wiped out? What the fuck happened? Does this have to do with them losing that whole company to 5 Daemons in that Ultramarines movie?
>>44913664
They were fighting some warp beasts on a planet, when the Beast's WAAAGH descended on the planet the entire chapter was stationed on, and wiped them out.
>>44914373
They are not warp creatures. The chromes are bugs that live in sub-space.
When the Orks tunneled through sub-space, they disturbed their hives and forced them to escape in real space.
>>44914426
Well my second hand account of the book seems to have been faulty! I just need to save up so I can actually buy some of the books, anyway.
Lol gw wouldn't canonically end the Imperial Fists. They released like two codicies for them.
>>44914476
Just pirate it.
>>44914506
They aren't being canon-ended. In 32K the chapter got fucked, and the successors/Imperium at large were worried about the morale blow of losing such a highly vaunted force, so covertly just renamed the chapter Fists Exemplar to the Imperial Fists.
>>44914520
I don't know where I'd find it.
>>44914537
Try Kickass torrents
>>44914567
It used to work for me, but these days all the downloads are just installers filled to the brim with fucking adware, which is tedious enough just for working through a custom installation.
>>44910427
Finally no one liked those faggots anyway, time to shine brothers.
>>44907760
>>44914817
You're clicking the wrong button, friendo. Just use the magnet or torrent link, not any of the "download" buttons that show up as ads or whatever sometimes.
This series makes me want GW to do similar miniseries set in other time periods.
12 books on Vandires Reign of Blood would be great.
>>44914872
WHO'S IN FOR AN IMPERIAL POWERFISTING, YA FUCKIN' TRAITORS!?!?!
>>44917225
I just more "Life in the Imperium" stories
I'm kinda bored of the usual Marines
I wish i'd be hired by GW to write - even if it's 1 book
>>44919283
The second book is almost entirely "Life of the Imperium." You know how it's being reviewed?
It's being called "Full of filler. No one cares about hive world A and forge world B!"
So no, Life in the Imperium is not what people want.
>>44919354
Oh for fucks sake, there goes my pitch to GeeDubs
I can imagine the top 2 things people want are:
>Setting Progression
>Marines doing Marine-y things
>>44913664
There's one survivorMy bet is that the Imperium will name him Chapter Master and give him a successor chapter that takes on all the Fist's assets and heraldry.Since Phalanx didn't go into battle, and theoretically all the Fists' relics are save on board, wouldn't assimilating a successor and its relics be a win as far as wargear goes?
>>44919414Maximus Thane is actually a listed Imperial Fists chapter master from the book Space Marine, which is the strongest evidence for the Fists Exemplar taking over as the new Imperial Fists.
>>44919821
Like the Ian Watson book Space Marine?
>>44919840
Yep. Right there, etched onto the bones of Rogal Dorn.
>>44907760
If the Beast never says
>'ello slaughter, oi's da warboss
I will be strongly disappointed.
>>44919870
What will happen to Captain Slaughter then?My bet is he dies at the end, killing the Beast and avenging the Fists
>>44907760
>go to book store
>pick up "I AM SLAUGHTER!" by Dam Abnoot
>hot as sex hipster girl at checkout counter
>*peenus hardens
>SLAM the graphic novel down and hipthrust the counter sending pleasure through my pants around my groin
>girl gives me the side face cringe look then measures me up and down
>she turns to bag the book and I get a good inspection of her butt
>I tell her to give me her number and whip the good ole' cellular out of it's holster.
>she tells me it's 12 dollars and 47 cents.
>yell "FOR THE EMPEROR!", and moonwalk out the store with my new Black Library Book I am the Slaughter by D Abnott.
>>44919414
Doesnt the IF keep an honor guard aboard the Phalanx? I have a hard time seeing all but 1 dying.
>>44922725
They said they sent everybody. That the walls of Terra were unguarded and the Halls of Phalanx empty
>>44922725
And aren't they generally a fairly spread out chapter, with plenty of recruiting worlds and the ability to quickly return all their chapter assets to Terra should it ever be attacked?
I'd rather they just gather all the Imperial Fist novitiates that are obviously going to be half-trained or newly recruited on various worlds and start molding them into a chapter again with whatever is left of the higher command.
The Imperial Fists are the worst chapter to wipe out and replace, even though the idea is pretty shitty in the first place. Why not the Iron Hands, who refused to leave Medusa undefended during the 13th Black Crusade? Or the White Scars, who would have to defend Chogris? Or the Blood Angels - hell, they practically have already done it before.
>>44922853
BL doesn't think, they write
>>44922873
They should just stick with short stories. You can't mess up with a short story unless you're Goto.
The one legion that fulfilled its job résumé to the tee and this is how BL rewards them. Fantastic. I dont even see why they are camping the Imperial Walls at this point. Dorn lent a pair of hands to stop the first black crusade so this whole "peace is the imperiums greatest threat" shit shouldn't have even stuck.
>>44921076
The Beast is the size of a Hab Block, so I have no idea how he could kill it.
>>44924383
A bolt through the mouth
>>44924335
>Ever taking Black Library fluff seriously
Shiggity Diggity Doo, Where Are You?
>>44924405
I don't take them to heart but I love the setting so of course I read the books yo. The codexs don't give me enough fluff to keep me happy.
>>44924383
No, he isn't. He hasn't appeared in person yet. We only have an out of scale picture and a scared Imperials comments on it.
>>44924499
They mentioned Nobs as big as Dreads, so the Beast is bound to be at least Knight size.
Is this the new fluff angle they're going with now?
Just fuck up First Founding Chapters and what not?
Man first I learn that my favorite Chapter, Black Templars, got reduced to fuck all worth of numbers and now the Fists are kill. What a fucking day.
>>44922853
>. Why not the Iron Hands, who refused to leave Medusa undefended during the 13th Black Crusade?
The Iron Hands are preparing their chapter and successors for the final war against one the great threats.
If you were near me, I would have punched you in the face for being a slanderous cretin.
(picture related).
>>44924577
GW is trying to kill 40k so they can Age of Sigmar is.
I still haven't figured out how shills like Carnac fit into their master plan
>>44922725
What I want to know is why they didn't bring the Phalanx.
>>44924574
No, they didn't.
All they mentioned that small mountains of muscles and gave more hyperbolic descriptions. No actual size was given.
>>44924614
>Warhammer 40k Age of Ultramar
The day they AoS 40k is the day I hang myself with a purity seal.
>>44924654
Because the Phalanx still exists in 40k.Though I'm surprised that stopped today's BL from destroying it anyway and then never mentioning it in 40k again
>>44924614
>I still haven't figured out how shills like Carnac fit into their master plan
Tom Kirby's sex slaves trying to earn the right to suck off their master first.
>>44924675
>with a purity seal
How? A little piece of paper with a wax seal can't hang a man. Maybe a noose made out of purity seals would work.
>>44924709
Just ask Cato Sicarius to write out all his glorious accomplishments on one purity seal.
>>44924691
The reason the Phalanx wasn't destroy is because Be'lakor intends to hijack it and bomb the Emperor to smithereens in the End Times.
Be'lakor will not be denied his glory.
>>44924577
Just ignore it and stick to an older canon headcanon.
I know headcanons get a bad wrap but it can't be worse than what GW is currently shitting out.
>>44924691
What about dreads? Are they still around? Until proven otherwise I say the possibility of Crusade era IFs who got lost in the Warp who just happen to pop out in the timeline this series takes place can refill the Imperial Fists' missing numbers.
>>44924774
I thought you wanted to hang yourself, not burn yourself.
>>44924792
>>44924794
Yeah I suppose that's the best option.
>>44924654
Mainly for political reasons. They discuss it as a sign of the astartes presence on Terra, when all that's on it are chapter serfs.
>>44924577
Except that the series adds more to the Imperial Fists than the entirety of 40k. Bet you didn't even know that the Fists never actually followed the codex. That they remained stubborn against it to the last.
>>44924826
>>44924795
They are very clear about it. There is not a single Imperial Fist left within the Sol system, which is the only place they recruit from.
>>44924870
Well surely the serfs can pop out kids to become marines. They should know the culture of the Fists well enough.
>>44924920
So have they forgotten Inwit exists?
>>44924943
The Crimson Fists tried this. Turns out just because you're a chapter serf doesn't mean your kids will be good quality for astartes. In fact it led to even worse quality applicants.
>>44925033
How so?
>>44925046
>be serf
>spend entire life serving Astartes-bros
>have some combat training here and there
>rarely ever get to see live combat myself
>watch Astartes beat the shit out of each other in training pits
>die after a lifetime of service and fathering a few kids who will all do as I have done
They don't have fighters blood in them most of the time.
>>44924870
I'm well aware the Fists hated the codex.
Hated it to the point where the Loyal Legions almost started a second civil war when Guilliman asked Rogal to divide his Legion into chapters.
Wait wait wait,
The Fists get destroyed?
But we have fists in 40k
What?
>>44924601
>Chaos
>Necrons
>Tyranids
>Orks were not entered into the Iron Hands calculation
Orkfags BTFO.
>>44925033
Just finished Rynns World and the chapter master reministed on the matter. The resulting generation of children were a mixed result, no different than if they would have recruited them from the general population. Plus non of the marines like the idea of people fucking in their monnesary
>>44925122
Rogal Dorn hated the idea so much he left more than half his legion in trenches in order to make less chapters.
>>44925650
>people fucking in their monastery
Just make a designated fucking zone for the serfs and all's well.
>>44925676
Like they wouldn't hear ball slaps echoing throughout the entire place. What I want to know is where did they get the womenz for this project.
>>44925710
There's probably female serfs already, that or just recruit from the populace.
>>44925710
>>44925746
Aren't serfs the relatives of marines? So Brother Johnny's little sister might as well be banging Brother's Craig's actual brother.
>>44925673
I wish this was cannon
>>44925776
Failed aspriants, people walking around that got picked up, doesn't really matter either way.
>>44925813
How else are they going to get more serfs besides kidnapping/advertise/adding new recruits' relatives? Just make the serfs to clean up afterwards and get a Librarian to psychically cock block serfs who should be working.
>>44914426
>Orks tunneled through sub-space,
Okay excuse me what
>>44925813
>people walking around that got picked up
>be me
>be civilian in big ass Hive City
>have shit dead end job
>probably going to do as my ancestors have done on this world
>work, eat, sleep, maybe fuck once or twice a year and work until i die
>suddenly a fucking ship falls out of the sky
>landing ramp slams down
>HolyEmperorForgiveMySins.holopeg
>The Emperor's Angels of Death disembark
>At least i'll have an interesting death
>One of them points at me
>"YOU, CIVILIAN GET IN THE THUNDERHAWK. WE'RE GOING CRUSADING. GET IN."
>I freeze not knowing if this is a dream or if I'm already dead
>they grab me and throw me in the ship
>I now have a dead end job maintaining the rivets on some machine that I have no idea what it does
>I'm now a Chapter Serf for the Blood Ravens
>>44925944
>>44925944
Sub-space is a thing now.
BL decided to cut the warp out of FTL travel all together.
>>44925944
The Mekz have finally got some shiny bitz.
>>44925892
>>44925963
My point was it doesn't really matter, its not like I read space marine books minus the night lords trilogy to get involved with serfs.
>>44925984
Though I guess to be fair, the Oldcrons did it first
>>44925390
They got better.
>>44926130
Dunno why but holy shit that made me lose it.
>>44925390
There's a Fist Successor called The Fist Exemplar.
Their ranking surviving captain shares a name with an Imperial Fist Chapter Master of the past in the Ian Watson novel.
Imperium confirmed for sweeping a 1st Founding death under the rug and replacing them with a soulless doppelganger
>>44926243
>Imperium confirmed for sweeping a 1st Founding death under the rug and replacing them with a soulless doppelganger
Worst thing BL has done as of late.
Why is BL so cruel to Dorn and his children? What has Dorn ever done to them?
>>44926243
It's a 2nd founding successor. They're exactly the same except they happen to follow the codex, where the Imperial Fists did not. Also they come from a high radiation world, so that probably explains where the lost astartes implants went.
>>44926378
I'm just glad it's distracting them from more HH drivel.
>>44926378
You mean the thing that was hinted at having happened before in the Blood Angels novels years ago actually happened? What a surprise!
>>44926477
Then go tell that to the people bitching that the Heresy isn't going anywhere because The Beast Arises is what a good chunk of the authors have been working on for the last three years.
>>44926496
You'll have to remind me, the worst thing I recall befalling the Blood Angels is the Sin of Damnation,
>>44926496
I assumed that was referring to the missing legions. But how does a marine in the modern 40k know what happened to the Fists if the High Lords swept it under the rug?
>>44926518
There was a time when a space hulk nearly destroyed the entire chapter. To this day I say it was genestealers, Orks, and Bezerkers living together in peace and harmony until the Blood Angels accidentally boarded the Hulk for the search of loot.
>>44926642
That's the Sin of Damnation, the Blood Angels had 50 survivors that they rebuilt from.
This is different, the Fists are dead.
>>44926687
>This is different, the Fists are dead.
Wait what? Is this cannon that a founding chapter was destroyed?
GW really killed off all the imperial fists and no one really seems that mad about it? pretty strange. maybe no one really did like them.
>>44926845
I'm waiting to see what will happen in the end before I can get fully angry.
>>44926838
Yes, thus this post
>>44926378
Read the first book, it was absolutely horrible.
>>44926911
Well you were reading BL novel afterall. Horrible is the default
>>44927083
Helsreach was good.
>>44924335
It is, admittedly, very stupid. Terra should be one of the best defended planets in the galaxy, let alone the Segmentum as a whole. The Imperium is never lax - it grinds on a schedule, doing the most ridiculous things even when they're no longer necessary.
>>44926687
Oh come on - they had one survivor. If the Blood Angels can manage to rebuild from about two marines, the Imperial Fists can do the same with one.
>>44926903
Dear God almighty, why couldn't it have been the Blood Angels? The fists are one of the competent chapters and they're just gone like that?
>>44927497
I'm all for the Fists but need i remind you.
>Body bridge over a trench
>House was actually a bomb
>>44927555
Everyone had one of those moments, and I don't think the iron cage incident is as bad as plowing through the enemy and into the people you were sent to protect.
>>44927497
Brother, I'm hurt. Both our legions have fought and died defending the Palace, and you wish that one us?
>>44927643
>on
I meant to say.
>>44927643
You're right, I'm sorry for my miss-guided words I'm going through a rough time.
It should have been the White Scars.
>>44926845
People's comments from the first book:
>These aren't the Imperial Fists from 40k! They have weird naming schemes and don't follow the codex! Ragaraghah!
People's comments from the second book
>You're killing off the Imperial Fists and replacing them with a chapter that's exactly what the modern 40k Fists are? No 1st founding chapter was ever destroyed! Ragaraghah!
>>44927676
They also fought on Terra. Wolves got their one chance of being mutation free, RG are the RG, Sallies have the dishonor of having Nick Kyme writing their stories, the Iron Hands' papa is the butt of many head related jokes. That only leaves the Ultras but knowing them they'd bounce back pretty quick.
>>44927791
I just don't like fast attack or mongols.
>>44927823
What's wrong with fast attack?
>>44927854
Their light and quick but still pack a punch and can lay an unprepared larger foe low.
It's like aircraft and battleships in the pacific. I like battleships.
>>44927945
Why not use both?
>>44927945
So what you're saying is you like big guys with big guns?
>>44928004
He must be an Iron Warrior or something.
>>44927736
This is the problem with just using 'hurr durr grimdark' for everything. Instead of new ideas being set up and introduced to fans in a way that let's them warm up to such things, they're just shit out with no warning, rhyme, or reason, then immediately obliterated because TEH DRAMAZ
This is the exact same shit that they did with the Raven Guard chapter master; after all the years of going unknown, they finally gave him a name and a bit of personality, then abruptly murdered him in the tau update and made Shrike the CM because IZ DIZ NOT TEH DRAMAZ?!!?!
This has been BL's growing attitude since the HH series started. Throw in a half-baked idea that might be good given time and development, then immediately put it through the wringer to FOR GRIMDARKNESS. Except nowadays there's no reason to get attached to anything that's getting bulldozed because it's just happening so fucking fast that it doesn't even matter.
>>44927555
Look to
>>44925673
>>44927676
You know who it really should have been? The Ultramarines.
Memery aside, they literally have an entire chapter who does absolutely everything they can to be just like the Ultramarines, and help replace their losses in battle. And that's not taking into account all the other successors who usually keep within a pretty common culture.
You could also make the Dark Angels work - I don't know if they've had entire sections of their chapter replaced, but they had the Angels of Vengeance take over as Master of the Ravenwing once - but I don't see their loss being quite the morale issue.
>>44927993
Oh I do, that doesn't mean I don't have a preference.
>>44928044
Or Star Phantoms, or Hammers of Dorn, or Executioners.And Iron Warriors,yes.
>>44928151
What founding did the Hammers of Dorn come out of again?
>And Iron Warriors,yes
Knew it.
>>44927736
its called vocal minorities choad. its the reason you dont instantly and constantly submit to the will of complaining forum faggots. someone is already going to be unhappy no matter what
>>44928186
Unknown.
>>44924948
I would like to know this too
>>44925984
Is subspace not just the webway?
How many spaces are there?
>>44928085
So what you're saying is, if these events had been in the 3e rulebook, you would've been fine with it. Gotcha.
>>44928283
I feel like Third founding could be good.
>>44928348
No, if these events had had literally any connection at all to 40k then we would have felt a bit of investment in the protagonists
>>44928348
no. Try reading with a triple-digit IQ.
>>44928433
Well then good. Because Maximus Thane was mentioned in the first 40k novel written. There's your connection. Not to mention Drakan Vangorich was mentioned by name as performing The Beheading, an event that many 40k fans had been asking to know more about.
>>44926845
I didn't know until yesterday. And I'm just ignoring it.
>>44928700
yeah i saw some people mention it but i just thought it was a joke or something taken out of context
i really like the imperial fists but honestly the current 40k fists are cucks for submitting to the will of girlyman and for having flawed geneseed. would be pretty sweet if there were able to turn them back into badasses with these novels but i dont see how they could without it being retarded and cheese
>>44928964
That's not what cuck means
>>44928981
it means whatever i say it means
the fists didnt have any wives to fuck so girlyman fucked their morals and honor instead
>>44928964
Except that the books already do. The Fists, the original Imperial Fists chapter, never submitted to the codex and never had flawed geneseed. Their successor did and in having their successor become the Imperial Fists, they transition from their 30k to their 40k representation.
>>44929161
But that was what the Iron Cage was supposed to be all about.
Now Dorn threw his Legion into a deathtrap for literally no good reason.
>>44929188
Keep in mind that splitting the legion is not the same as following the codex. The Iron Cage was for splitting the legion. But following the codex, having 10 companies of 100 battle brothers with support staff, using pre-defined insignia and titles, that is following the codex, and that is something the Imperial Fists never did.
>>44929161
yeah i understand all that. thats why i said if they could play it right they could save the fists. this is very new and unfinished fluff though so its still possible its just a ruse and the fists didnt really get replaced wholly
the only thing i can think of is if the real fists go form a different chapter because of their reduced numbers and then let the cuck fists take over in their stead (to save face/not let people lose moral knowing that a 1st founding chapter got BTFO, etc.). in that case the real uncucked fists could still be killing aliums all the way into 40k.
but like i said that would be hard to do and probably isnt the case
>>44929251
that the Fists Exemplar, and modern Imperial Fists, do*
>>44929264
If anything, I see Slaughter getting put into a dreadnought and becoming a Bjorn-lite for a few thousand years.
>>44928477
No dumbass, these IMPERIAL FISTS have literally no connection to 40k, so why should I care?
You've handed me a bunch of guys who are nothing like the Fists I've read about and learned to love. Then you kill them and want me to be sad. Why should I? Those aren't Fists as far as I'm concerned.
>>44929264
UNKEKED
UNBLACKED
UNBROKEN IN
sounds like a cool /tg/ chapter
>>44929336
You're not supposed to. You think they would've killed them off in the first book if you were supposed to have meaningful attachment? You think they would've introduced a chapter that is literally what the modern Imperial Fists are in the 2nd of 12 books if you weren't going to build a connectionto them?
>>44924601
how does abbadon keep escaping
on a related note the IoM needs to have cool grimdark prisons where it keeps heretics and demons so they dont just reform in the warp after you kill them
it could be on a rogue planet like some assassins are rumored to be stationed or trained on or whatever
>>44929679
he slips out because he has no arms.
![Warhammer-40000-Wh-Песочница-фэндомы-Wh-Other-1749117[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3rbXtVB.jpg "Warhammer-40000-Wh-Песочница-фэндомы-Wh-Other-1749117[1].jpg")
>>44929802
>>44929161
The Fist always had a flawed gene seed mate.
>>44929679
>how does abbadon keep escaping
Chaos hijinks. The Gods make his body explode, and remake him a new body for his soul to use. Or something like that.
>>44929679
Grey Knights do have a prison where they keep Daemons on Titan. It's very hard to capture one though especially the more powerful ones.
Mortal Chaos servants don't reincarnate so there's no point. They'd just corrupt the guards and start an uprising.
>>44929837
>he escapes by aloha snackbaring
>gods keep giving him a new body.
>>44926378
>>44926243
Well there is 1 surviving Fist left, also it's unclear what happened to the Phalanx
>>44929869
And that is why he has no arms. The Gods aren't smart enough to make arms that can't fall off. On a serious note as long as Abaddon is useful, the Gods will bring Lord Topknot back. If he's really in trouble, he'd probably off himself knowing he'll just come back.
>The Beast has united the MAJORITY of the Ork race under his waaagh!
>He's the size of a city block
>His waaaagh field is so strong it is mutating Orks into giants, his Nobs are described as elephants and normal boys tower over regular Orks
>The collective psychic scream of his waaagh! is driving astropaths and entire planets insane
>The Orks have multiple death stars that can destroy planets
>The Orks are traveling in what seems to be the Webway
>High Lords are doing jackshit and the Beast is already at Terra's door
I can't wait to see what contrived way BL is gonna have him lose cuz they're setting him up to be way too powerful even given his reputation.
>>44907983
I hate Vangorich already. He's overstepping the bounds of his responsibilities and basically becoming exactly what people fear the Grand Master of Assassins will become: Tyrant of the Imperium.
>>44930040
Search your feelings to know it's true.
>>44914817
There's several fake KickassTorrent sites running around. You need kat.cr
>>44916957
Somebody tweet this at Abnett.
>>44930082
>Terra on the verge of being overrun by The Beast
>The Beast himself waltzes into the Imperial palace and is about to smash the door open to the Emperor's throneroom
>Cato Sicarius arrives and shoots him in the head
>"In the end, it was I, Cato Sicarius, who blah blah blah blah"
>>44930070
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/The_Beheading
Every time he talks about how the High Lords will pay for their inaction, you should envision the authors winking at you.
>>44930070
Vangorich is getting shit done. Lansung and the rest of the High Lords besides the Inquisitorial rep are cucks bickering among themselves
Also he's sending a vanus-led execution force to infiltrate the noctis labyrinth on Mars. I wanna see where that goes
>>44930134
Seems like an average day in the galaxy.
>>44930139
Look at my picture and imagine what is to come.
>>44930187
>he doesn't want the suicide squad to use suicide planes and suicide trucks.
for max effect play nasheeds
>>44930134
>>44930082
>>44930040
>the fists didnt die they just got sucked up into the sub-space yadda yadda
>they pop out at the last second and are the only thing standing between the beast and the imperial palace
you know this is how its actually going to happen
>>44926518
Swallow's Blood Angels Tetralogy has the Blood Angels be nearly wiped out thanks to the genetic manipulations of Fabius Bile and Tzeentch exploiting their gene-seed flaw, i.e. the Black Rage and Red Thirst. A conclave of all the Blood Angels Successor chapters is called together to decide what aid can be given to the chapter. Dante wants a portion of initiates and Scouts tithed from the successors to the Blood Angels to rebuild their numbers. Seth of the Flesh Tearers suggests instead that the Blood Angels should disband into the Successors, them being so few. Dante says that no First Founding chapter has ever been wiped from history, but Seth counters that it has.
>>44930210
The Eversor shouldn't be driving. It should be ripping and tearing so the enemy is offing themselves when they hear its dreaded WRRRYYYY.
>>44930242
>implying it wasn't the eversors that fucked up kharak
>>44930070
I'd be angry too
>High Lords are de facto run by the fucking Lord High Admiral of the Imperial Navy
>Lord Commander of the Imperium is a fat puppet of said Admiral
>Master of the Administratum literally ignores what's going on and yells at you for overblowing a threat
>Arbites Grand Provost Marshal has replaced his brain with a computer and sits there oblivious to the meeting, monitoring crime stats like an autist
>Adeptus Mechanicus knew about the threat beforehand but kept quiet to study shit, and the Fabricator-General is trying to replicate Ork and maybe even Necron tech in some unholy fusion.
>Ecclesiarch is a fatass who slaps you for looking at his ring
>Two crazy Psykers that sit around and scare everybody because the rich Navigator asshole that they pal around with in some freak triumvirate.
>Inquisitorial Representative is sending spies to constantly tail you because hurr durr muh reasons
>Speaker for the Chartist Captains is raising transportation fees to doom refugees
High Lords are fucking useless in these books, besides Vangorich.
Just as useless as the fanboys have always speculated they would be
>>44930139
Is the most powerful high lord the Captain-General? He seems to be in the most advantages position.
>>44930040
Look to the future.
>Book 3: The Emperor Expects
That grand armada finally goes to fight the Orks, and that one Admiral, or maybe it's the Assassin, is on the cover.
>Book 4: The Last Wall
The Orks actually besiege Terra, and the Iron Warriors are wiped out entirely. Also, the Fist Successor chapters gather in Phall, probably to dissolve what remains of the Fists and divest the Chapter of its assets until the Fists Exemplar take over.
>Book 5: Throneworld
Orks still besiege Terra, Eldar show up. More side character stories like in Book 2, showing the Imperium teaming up with "others" to fight the Beast in the areas it's attacking.
>>44930257
I don't doubt it.
>>44930284
Alfabusa got them portrayed pretty accurately. Did you know a Fabricator General tried to take the culexus temple and had to be put down?
>>44930341
Kitten probably was busy during that moment.
>>44930139
That doesn't make it right. Vangorich is basically criminal scum who thinks he knows better than the Emperor.
>>44930347
ok, I have been out of the loop but what the fuck is this bullshit?
>>44930341
He's not a member of the High Lords here, presumably he will replace the Lord Commander of the Imperium who is still a high lord seat in M32 when the story takes place.
According to Lexicanum, the high lords vangorich are gonna kill will probably be:
>Udin Macht Udo - Lord Commander of the Imperium and Chairman of the Senatorum
>Lansung - Lord High Admiral of the Imperial Navy and the most powerful High Lord
>Wienand - Inquisitorial Representative
>Heth - Lord Commander Militant of the Imperial Guard
>Juskina Tull - Speaker for the Chartist Captains
Tobris Ekharth - Master of the Administratum
>Mesring - Ecclesiarch
>Abdulias Anwar - Master of the Adeptus Astra Telepathica
>Kubik - Fabricator General of the Adeptus Mechanicus
>Helad Gibran - Paternoval Envoy of the Navis Nobilite
>Vernor Zeck - Grand Provost Marshal of the Adeptus Arbites
>Volquan Sark - Master of the Astronomican
>>44930284
Vangorich isn't even a High Lord in this time, he's a lesser member of the Senatorum Imperialis.
>>44930223
>When Lysander was lost in the warp for a hundred years, at some point he went back into the past
>he helps reinforce his chapter at their most crucial hour, and gives up some of his marines so that they can rebuild
>when he goes back to his own time, he has knowledge of what the Imperial Fists are really like, which is why he can be such a headstrong dick
Your way is good too.
>>44930377
Emps is busy waging never ending war in the Warp now. He knows what's going on, but he's busy.
>>44930384
http://www.blacklibrary.com/the-beast-arises.html
>>44930407
But, Heth's already dead!
>>44930284
Vangorich's beheading ended up making way for a new - Ultramarines-chosen - group of High Lords of Terra, who I assume will be a lot better than the old ones.
>>44930371
>Alfabusa
>attempting to portray things accurately
>>44930439
>The Emperor Expects
He expects this series to be good.
>That plasma gun
I'm not the only one who thinks that plasma looks more like paste right?
>>44930465
He has a replacement already
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Verreault
He'll probably die too
>>44930439
The IN needs more love.
>>44930491
His way of portraying the High Lords seemed pretty spot on.
>>44930493
He's a naval officer. He probably never had a reason to fire it for about a hundred years. That scar was probably when he forgot to duck underneath a bulkhead. His uniform is so perfect because he can take hours to get it all pretty.
I love that they're giving some attention to the Imperial Navy, but they're still pretty useless.
>>44930439
>orks running rampant
>eldar fucks attack terra itself
is nothing sacred, is this GW's attempt to make us all taufags?
>>44930503
Navy is a major player in this series, mostly for the worst. The head of the IN is the de facto ruler of the Imperium as the most powerful High Lord.
But he's also a corrupt shit
>>44930134
this picture is magical
>>44930540
>He's a naval officer. He probably never had a reason to fire it for about a hundred years. That scar was probably when he forgot to duck underneath a bulkhead. His uniform is so perfect because he can take hours to get it all pretty.
What if his ship got boarded?
>>44916957
>someone saved my edit
Thank you, I deleted the original and was worried that it was gone forever.
>>44930546
I thought that's what the wank in Montka was.
>>44930582
he kills the invaders by bayonet.
>>44930614
But why bayonet when there's a plasma gun in his hand?
>>44930546
The Eldar are gonna get BTFO'd by the Sisters of Silence
They've already appeared in promotional art for the series
This series might finally explained wtf happened to them after the heresy
>>44930638
its the fucking space elves attacking Terra itself.
its like the bongs burning down the white house, no matter what americans say they will still be laughed at that they lost to canadian militiamen and had it burnt down by tommy atkins
>>44930439
Is this dude Udin Macht Udo the Lord Commander? The book describes him as being chubby, shaven headed, a scar on his face, and in a naval uniform
>>44930582
>>44930598
that and its orks on the march to terra.
the fucking npc race is doing more than armless abbadon in destroying the imperium
now all we need is timetravelling shenanigans from commander farsight and I will reach peak autism
>>44921076
The emperor and horus kill the beast.
>>44930680
>its the fucking space elves attacking Terra itself.
And the soulless women probably miss their boss, and would love to murder space elves coming close to their boss.
>>44930680
>canadian militiamen
Fuck no, they were regulars.
>>44930733
Orks are dangerous when you leave them alone.
>>44930779
>those numbers
thats a lot of dakka
>>44930830
They brought a party with them.
>>44930862
This probably is the backstory of the Beast.
>>44930733
The whole point of this series is for Imperial standards it's still right after the Heresy (1,500 years) and the CSM aren't really a threat yet as they're still reeling. We get the answer as to what the Orks have been doing since Ullanor before the Heresy: being subjugated and unified under The Beast
>>44925963
YOU WERE GIFTED TO THEM, ASSHOLE! STOP COMPLAINING LIKE YOU WERE KIDNAPPED!
>>44930892
Picture this when there are space battles against the Beast.
>>44930695
No, it's either Vangorich with his scar or Lord High Admiral whatever.
>>44930517
He made a joke. A bad joke, about the High Lords of nearly ten thousand years later. The fact that it ended up true is horrible.
>>44931116
It could be worse. You could be a High Lord.
>>44930582
Sword. Duh. Do you think he's going to let an enemy get closer to him than the length of a novacannon shot, and not try and use it?
>>44930680
The canadians weren't even involved. It was a few regiments of British redcoats.
The laughable part is the horrible defense - maybe two hundred militiamen, all placed in horrible positions by a politician who wanted to play general, who all up and ran the moment they started getting beat, leaving their capital undefended.
>>44931133
I remember a screencap - I can't find the file without some serious searching - where a guy on /tg/ looked at the High Lords of Terra as being a bunch of scared men, knowing they had the power to destroy planets at the whim of their actions or mistakes, stuck on a sinking ship they didn't know how to steer and being told to keep it afloat. A real sympathetic look that was.
Point is, it could've been a lot better, and I don't give a damn that it could've been worse.
>>44931364
That is almost how I see them.
>>44931173
yeah, I was referring to the invasion of canada itself.
>>44931364
yeah, your average inquisitor or Space marine captain will sleep soundly at night because of their conditioning or fanaticism, but those guys know the truth behind it all.
its kinda like those kids who buy shiny new phones while mom and dad know that their financial situation is not tenable.
Is Eldrad the unlikely ally?
>>44929817
Sus-an membrane used by an Imperial Fist in the novel. Therefore implant is not missing, therefore Imperial Fists geneseed is not flawed.
>>44932596
Their flaw is some weird OCD-inferiority complex.
>>44925984
>Sub-space is a thing now.
Necron assassin known as Deathmarks travel via sub-space.
>BL decided to cut the warp out of FTL travel all together.
You moron.
>>44930407
Which one's the Lord Guilliman?
>>44932596
What about the Betcher's Gland? Gene-seed can degrade over time.
>>44930894
Then where the fuck is Rogal Dorn?
>>44934649
His death happened after the 1st Black Crusade (781.M31), but of course 7th Edition decided that his remains were never found.
That other anon is full of bullshit. The Scouring has long been over (it started sometime around 15.M31). Abaddon reared his ugly head again in the 1st Black Crusade. The Beast is rising up in 544.M32 - the 2nd Black Crusade only comes about 30 years later. Chaos is a legitimate threat. The problem seems to be that for some reason the rest of the Imperium has forgotten that they're not safe somehow, especially the Segmentum Solar.
>>44935363
>The problem seems to be that for some reason the rest of the Imperium has forgotten that they're not safe somehow, especially the Segmentum Solar.
First BC was almost a thousand years before the Beast, it was essentially just an elaborate ploy for Abaddon to get his fancy sword and kiss the ass of his gods, and it didn't get anywhere near Terra.
>>44930779
What game is this?
>>44935744
Chapter Master.
>>44934196
The evidence against that is that the Fists Exemplar come from a heavily irradiated world, that would most likely be fucking up the geneseed a lot more.
>>44935363
The Imperium hasn't forgotten, only the High Lords. There's even a while section where they talk about Hrud and other species taking down planets and subsectors, to which their response is, "Oh well... sucks."
>>44936848
But Fists Exemplar's geneseed isn't fucked up.
>>44936873
They mention Hruds two or three times.
>>44936873
I always got the impression that the Imperial Guard does a pretty good job of keeping the Hrud down.
>>44936873
Poor guys. So distant from everything in the galaxy.
>>44907760
>There will be 12 total.
>and the story isn't that bad desu.
This doesn't cumpute.
>>44919354
Truly, readers are predictable morons
>>44919283
>>44919354
I love "Life in the Imperium" stories.
>>44936666
Thanks for the info, mega Satan.
>>44919354
I enjoyed book 2 more than Hacknett taking 200 pages to write "Rocks fall. Imperial Fists die"
>>44938862
I did too, but I feel that was a combination of it being a new era that we didn't have a lot of information on, and that it was intended as a start to a series. It's no Horus Rising, but it does the job.
>>44938862
Vangorich was awesome in book 1.
>>44916957
Pure gold right here...
