"lets argue about blood moon some more" edition
>>44547165
pls no
A bit of a rules question.
I have melira combo down and gain infinite life and then my opponent twins the next turn. I do not die, right? Since my opponent has to declare a number of attackers, say a million, then after he declares the attackers I could gain another million life to keep myself alive.
Am I correct in this?
>>44547237
Seems correct to me. He attacks with a million dudes, you gain a million more life after attackers are declared
TRIPLE. AMULET. TURN. THREE. COMBO.
Bloom Titan has three Prime Times on turn 3. Actually extremely gross. Won on turn 4 after mulliganning down to 5 in the first game.
>>44547280
Scratch that, four titans.
Alright real question, wondering other peoples opinions.
Why do so many people think amulet will get hit so hard in the bannings? I think if anything should get banned its hivemind, thats the only thing that seems to be too much. Take that away and it will drop its win % maybe a few percent to put it more in check while leaving the deck intact.
Will this put Amulet on WOTC's ban radar? Couldn't wait until 18th and just bought Tron in case Amulet gets a ban.
>>44547310
SUCKS TO SUCK, MIZE
>>44547322
What will you do if they ban Urza's Tower instead?
>>44547326
don't know why, but I hate that dude
>>44547342
Seems unlikely but prolly kill myself, the deck cost about 900 and I can't raise more student loan until July.
>>44547342
Cry, probably.
>>44547349
He looks like a bitch, so fuck him. Amulet Bloom is bullshit and no one should get wrecked like this, but still, fuck Mize.
U Tron master race
Does anyone have a decklist for Hoogland's Kiki-Chord for this tournament? Looks like a lot of fun, would love to build it
>>44547375
Did you use student loans to pay for it?
>>44547349
its the hair
>>44547317
It's not Hive Mind that needs to be banned. It's Summer Bloom that needs to be banned with it being the major enabler in the deck(with the weird exception of having TRIPLE AMULET OF VIGOR.)
WotC would probably end up banning Amulet of Vigor though.
>>44547322
Nigga in that open 4 months ago we had Instant reanimator win turn 2 on camera back to back with Amulet "winning" turn 2 twice. The same event that had the top 8 being 2 Amulet Blooms and 3 GR Trons.
If that didn't tip off Wizards I don't know what did.
>>44547399
Yeh, 3k going atm. Good thing is I live in Finland so the government backs up the loan even if I never worked for a day after university.
>>44547280
Don't worry you can ban Simian Spirit Guide and it will be 100% a fair deck.
>>44547409
Summer bloom ban would seriously cripple the deck though, and other than a few exceptions its generally possible to interact with them going off.
I dont like the deck, but I dont think it needs to be banned into the ground.
Just print wasteland and bloom isn't a deck anymore
>>44547389
He wasn't playing a deck that could interact with it in any meaningful way. That's what happens if you can't combo first.
>>44547492
It would slow the deck but not cripple it. If you ban Amulet then yeah the deck is 100% crippled. Banning Summer Bloom will slow the deck down closer to a turn 4 or turn 5 combo activation on most hands.
>>44547317
See
>>44547310
>Fair and balanced deck
>>44547533
nope, banning summer bloom kills the deck because it makes any hand without amulet garbage.
>>44547533
I'm no expert on amulet bloom so I'll take your word for it, if that would be the case sounds reasonable.
I doubt many people would stay on it though after such a large change to it, which would be kinda sad.
>>44547577
No they can still play Azusa but they will have to run 4 of her. It will slow them down one extra turn if they have the combo and make it less likely for them to explode with 4x Primeval Titans turn 3.
>>44547620
>in response to your bounce land trigger, bolt Azusa
You clearly don't know what you're talking about, dude
>>44547614
Yeah but the problem is WotC cannot into banning and unbanning properly.
>Crumble to Dust your Eldrazi Temple
>Next turn Oblivion Sower yourself
>>44547679
>target opponent
>>44547695
me_irl
>>44547650
>bolt Azusa
>You clearly don't know what you're talking about, dude
I actually do and you just proved my point.
That's exactly why banning Summer Bloom and allowing Azusa to remain would make the deck a little slower and easier to deal with while still retaining the combo. Azusa is easier to interact with because she can be answered in between the triggers with removal, has a lower additional land play and costs 1 extra mana more.
>>44547729
all that different shit makes the deck unplayable
>>44547729
So you want to make it a shit deck that cant even win against a decent casual brew? Got it
>>44547762
Good.
It's a stupid meme deck for stupid memers
>>44547533
>all in combo deck
>wins turn 4 or 5
>dies to common removal in the format
>acceptable
Why the fuck would you not just play Twin at that point. It wins at the same speed and isn't entirely dependant on the combo to win.
This is why Modern will always be shit. Noobs can't handle getting comboed off on so they whine and every real combo deck that's faster than Twin gets banhammered until the only viable combo deck is Twin. Wizard's implementation of the turn 4 rule is cancer that warps the format towards Twin and midrange.
>>44547762
It makes the deck slower but not unplayable. Banning Amulet makes the deck 100% unplayable, banning Summer Bloom makes it slow enough to not go off turn 3.
What do you lads think about splashing in Fish?
I really like each color splash. They all provide some really interesting angles.
>>44547801
Lantern Control is a meme deck. B/X Eldrazi is a meme deck. Bloom is a good deck that you just don't like, stop the hate.
>>44547813
>Wizard's implementation of the turn 4 rule is cancer that warps the format towards Twin and midrange.
Most of modern is turn 3 combo decks and aggro
Midrange doesn't even have that much representation in modern.
>>44547813
>Why the fuck would you not just play Twin at that point. It wins at the same speed and isn't entirely dependant on the combo to win.
Again you can answer the Twin so look at it from WotC point of view. What do you think is most likely to happen?
Also you're missing the point, I have absolutely no problem with combo decks.
For instance Ad Nauseam is an all-in combo deck that wins turn 4 and turn 5 and I play that. Funny thing is Ad Nauseam wins against Amulet Bloom if they attempt to win through Hive Mind kill.
>>44547796
No it will still be a good deck, you're just not dropping 4 titans on turns 2 or 3 but rather maybe turn 4 or 5 instead. Look at it from WotC perspective, you're presuming I actually have the power to affect the banlist myself.
Mize could have won through those Titans if only he playedRuned Halo
>>44547824
I've seen some W splashes in fish for access to other cards but at the downside of making the deck a little less consistent.
>>44547890
Dropping 4 titans is not a normal turn 2 play, no matter what you read on reddit
Anyone have the list for Podless that was on camera during the last round?
>>44547903
Did he have it in the sideboard?
>>44547958
You're right, it's a turn 3 play usually.
>>44547992
so fanny
>>44548038
>You're right, it's a turn 3 play usually.
>turn 3 play usually.
>usually
thats the important piece
>>44548068
Yeah and think about how WotC would view it. They're gonna watch it and be like "yeah nah we can't have this."
>>44547974
Probably not, I just like repping Runed Halo because it shits on a lot of linear decks.
Just ban 8th edition and get it the fuck over with. Neuters Lantern, Bloom, and gets rid of Blood Moon.
I quite like that mono-black Eldrazi deck that's floating around. It probably can't keep up with Merfolk, but it looks pretty nifty and it can drop 2 3/2s on turn 2
>>44548115
Tron as collateral damage?
>>44548108
Most of the white cards do in Modern. Rule of Law, Rest in Peace etc.
>>44548183
Tron was reprinted in 9th
>>44548201
I think this means modern is going to lean back to white as a color again. There's too many linear decks floating around that policing them without killer sb cards is kind of hard.
>>44547824
White can be good but monoblue is still by far the best and the only version of fish that consistently puts up results
red and black are cute, green is a joke
>>44548254
Just to be a cheeky git I run Blessed Reversal in the side against twin decks in my G/w Elf deck.
>>44548397
tech for zoo?
>>44548413
Usually you can just go over the top of Zoo in Elves but I guess it can work too however nobody plays Zoo here.
>>44547869
>Funny thing is Ad Nauseam wins against Amulet Bloom if they attempt to win through Hive Mind kill
how's that?
>>44547310
kek
where can I see this match
>>44548529
They simply Angel's Grace before the trigger resolves and go off if able.
>>44548529
Untap, Upkeep. Various Hive Mind copied Pact triggers on the stack. Cast Angel's Grace in response to the triggers. Opponent gets a copy of Angel's Grace. Now for the turn both of you can neither win or lose this turn. So now you can draw a card and play a land then pass the turn.
Now Amulet Bloom players turn, he now has to pay for multiples of his own Pacts. Hell you can even use his own Hive Mind against him by casting a Serum Visions on your Turn and then casting Pact of Negation targetting your own Visions and he will get a copy of Pact and have to pay for it on his Upkeep too in addition to his old ones.
>>44548529
He means angels grace in response to the pact trigger bc apparently he lives in a world where he always has it in his opening 7.
Tron vs Kiki-Chord. Rip Hoogland.
>>44548529
Not him but angels grace i'm guessing. Most of the time they do a hive mind kill its with several pacts together, which they cant pay for themselves.
>>44548593
>Go off if able
No you don't want to go off because they get a copy of Angel's Grace too. You just draw and pass the turn.
>>44548643
You might want to read Hive Mind and Angel's Grace again.
>>44548605
If you're playing Ad Nauseam you shouldn't be keeping hands that don't have Angel's Grace. Obviously that still isn't 100% but the deck does aggressively mulligan into its combo pieces.
>>44548672
Maybe you should read the cards, I don't think you should really be lecturing me on how to play MTG.
Hive Mind:
"Whenever a player casts an instant or sorcery spell, each other player copies that spell. Each of those players may choose new targets for his or her copy."
Angel's Grace:
"You can't lose the game this turn and your opponents can't win the game this turn. Until end of turn, damage that would reduce your life total to less than 1 reduces it to 1 instead."
You attempt to combo off and they still don't lose because Hive Mind is a triggered ability and copies Angel's Grace despite Split Second. You will not win.
>>44548719
I'm entirely positive that's bullshit. You only get 4 copies of it. You can't mull to that.
>>44548605
You also have 3-4 copies of Pact of Negation mainboard. Usually you'll have at least 3-4 turns to dig and you can do so with quite a few cantrips getting towards your combo pieces.
>>44548605
If you're playing Spoils of the Vault version you can even name Angel's Grace until you find it and then cast it afterwards.
>>44548719
You can keep hands without it as long as you have your mana acceleration and cantrips.
>judges reminding hoogland to play creatures in front of lands
>>44548942
Why is this such a problem?
And why do people do it anyway?
>>44549029
I do it because it gives me more room on my playmat. Playing lands behind just feels so cramped
>>44549029
>Why is this such a problem?
It usually isn't.
>And why do people do it anyway?
To try and annoy their opponent.
But I think also in this particular case it's because of the reflection of the card sleeves making the creatures sort of hard to see.
>>44549029
If you are WOTC you want new people wondering into a stream to not just see a pile of cards but some sorta game with consistency and rules.
>>44549029
because it puts useless information in front of useful information
I have a special board setup I use against landfirst playing fucks that's beyond retarded but not technically against the rules. My FNM judge allows it but I never tried it at a sanctioned event
>>44548624
Wow I was very wrong. Kiki-Chord is way more resilient than I thought. Really tempted to drop 200 and build it.
>>44549186
elaborate
was personally thinking of playing side ways
>>44549193
I was rooting for Ali but hot damn, Kiki Chord was netting some insane value. Very impressive.
>>44549234
He's got a mastery over that deck like none other. Like, wasn't mage casted like, 4 times? Surprised Ali didn't see a Relic
>>44549279
Ali's not running relics for some reason according to chat, are the deck lists available somewhere?
>>44549193
Do it, my friend plays it with much success, recently placed place 2 in a tournament of 50. Its a really nice deck, rewards skill and knowing what to do.
>>44549210
>black
lands
>red
creatures, top of the card facing right
>blue
library
>yellow
exile
>green
graveyard
>purple
other, but varies a bit like putting artifacts facing left and planeswalkers facing right or whatever
>>44547375
>I can't raise more student loan until July.
you're spending student loan bux on magic cards?
>>44549314
Thats really weird considering how good relic is, but I haven't played Tron in well over a year? Whenever Ugin first came out. And no I dont think so
>>44549319
I might, I really might. It definitely looks like something I'd have to learn really hard. As soon as modern unbannings get announced I'll sell legacy and pick up these cards.
>>44549336
Speechless desu
>>44549336
Pic.
>>44549396
Only way to afford it, I only got back into it recently and don't have staples from way back. And like I said, I don't even need to pay it back per se (slight cuts from social security) in case I can't land a job.
as expected of an amulet player
>>44549496
Wrist brace from extreme deck masturbation
>>44549336
what the fuck man
What's the top 8? I can't watch the stream right now.
why were they stating he was dressing sharp? that fucking jacket
>>44549576
Amulet, Twin, Abzan Company and Kiki-Chord I think is the Top 4 right now. IDK whats all in top 8
>>44549576
>>44549598
rest of the top was 2 affinity decks, another amulet bloom and abzan company
>two amulet decks in top8
amulet is banned! BANNED!
What sort of fuckwit wears Facebook branded apparel?
>>44549755
The same guy who actually looks like a bobby and wears a protector because of too much masturbation
Why couldn't they have put Abzan vs Kiki on camera? Its much more interesting than Bloom vs anything.
who /amulet/ here?
>>44549826
building it currently, waiting with the expensive parts for the ban announcements tho
time to make amulet fold to blood moon
>>44549826
Here. Fuck twin, fuck discard, heil Hitler.
>>44549826
all the salt is delicious
>>44549598
>>44549644
Didn't Aintrazi top 8 with Tron?
Plz guys
If BBD takes this series with Blood Moon the collective REEEEEEE from Bloom players is gonna shatter glass.
>>44549868
time to make blood moon fold for nature's claim/seal of primordium
>>44549912
>Didn't Aintrazi top 8 with Tron?
>Plz guys
Lost against kiki chord.
>>44549912
He did losing to Kiki Chord.
>>44549916
I think you mean if Amulet wins against Twin players will circle jerk about how its overpowered and should be banned forever because muh twin and muh interaction
>>44550039
this.
>>44550039
T4 combo deck
>Muh interaction
T2 goldfish deck that can eat counterspells
>Fair and balanced
>>44550109
Yeah watching him recast a Prime Time on T2 was actually disgusting. The only way I can see BBD winning is playing Blood Moon to make Bloom lose to its own pact.
Reminder that Amulet is a fair deck and if you lose to it, its your own fault.
>the amulet hate
delicious
>BBD could win right now if he had red source and twin
B-BUT AMULET
>>44550185
this hahaha. everyones hating on amulet, altough BBD is literally a draw away from winning
>>44550185
That's why twin is fair, scrub.
>>44550185
That's because amulet literally plays no interaction.
>>44550185
It's awful to watch. So fucking boring.
Reminder, if you actually play interactive spells, then twin won't go for the combo on turn 4 unless they're a bad pilot or about to lose.
>>44550254
>That's why twin is fair, scrub.
You are both unfair, period.
>>44550270
>slaughter pact
>pact of negation
>whatever you put in your sideboard
In addition it's also a fucking combo deck which generally plays little interaction in general
Now please tell me how interactive twin is and why it's the best deck in the format while remaining fair and how it's also high skillcap etc
>>44550311
Twin is much easier to stop.
To be honest I really like the decks that poped up from the dead husk of Pod. Melira Collected, Kiki Chord and Little Kid are all fun and good decks.
>>44550291
This so much, people are all "muh oops I win twin" when that happens very rarely.
People will get salty over anything though cant blame them
>wants to play a neat, interactive deck
>dislike twin
>no money for jund
>>44550349
Is that why they are the most popular deck in the format?
>counterspells to stop you from stopping the combo
>most cantrips and filtering
I swear twin player are all autistic
>>44550361
I've won more off Restro + Snappy beatdown than actually going infinite. Yolo dropping the infinite is like fucking without a condom, you just don't do it.
>>44549951
>>44549952
That's top 8 regardless. I'm not asking for Top 4.
>>44550439
Yeah I didn't know all of the top 8. Just those decks.
>>44550371Esper Control
>>44550395
Have you ever watched twin? They normally sit back and control the game till a time they're ahead enough to be able to combo, which is basically a formality at that point.
Yes it does sometimes get dumb wins it doesn't deserve at all, but variance is a big part of the game.
>>44550371
Mono U Tron is a cheap interactive deck.
>>44550361
People are shocked to realize that Twin doesn't like playing against decks that operate at instant speed and have interaction against its combo.
There's a reason when Jeskai Control was tier 1 people played it, it was so you could beat up on Twin.
>>44550468
Which sadly sucks a lot
>>44550463
How competitive is that actually without a playset of snappys?
>>44550371
Play Gruul Zoo. It's fun and interactive and cheaper then Twin to boot.
>>44550361
>This so much, people are all "muh oops I win hive mind" when that happens very rarely.
>>44550395
Tron and Infect players are way more autistic. I've met a few who act like they're fucking Yugi, and have to shout as they explain everything.
Fuck you Voice of Resurgence. This card should be neither a mythic nor this expensive.
Fuck you creative team with your last minute rarity change.
I think what we have to see is that Twin is a control deck that uses a combo to win just like Gifts is also a control deck that uses a combo to win. KikiChord (and Birthing Pod before it) are tempo decks that happen to have a combo in the deck.
Bloom is just a combo deck; Tron is also just a combo deck with some control elements; both in the same way that Storm or Eggs were combo decks. I dare say that Infect is more a combo deck than an aggro deck.
Maybe from this starting point we can properly argue about what we do not like about certain decks. I believe most people opposed to Bloom or Tron dislike it because there is a very small window to interact with either of those decks before the combo goes off and success in disrupting it highly depends on whether or not you are on the play. Likewise people dislike burn because you can't interact period. With Twin there is a legitimate amount of time before the combo can safely go off because realistically the opportunities for interaction prevent the deck from actually winning until six or so lands are on the field.
>>44550515
I too want a playset without having to spend 100 dosh on it
>>44550129
He had the basic to skirt that too.
>>44550527
He needed two. SP needs 2GG
>>44550490
It only sucks against Aggro so if your meta is aggro light and most Twin and other combo/control decks then you're good. If you want a cheap Tron deck that's good against Aggro you can play U/W Tron aka UW Gifts Tron.
>>44550508
Thats why a ban of hivemind would be ok, it happens rarely so it would be a small hit to amulet bloom, and let them still do there plan A. Just a small toning down is all it needs.
>>44550527
He didn't but he could have Vesuva copied a Forest just to make absolutely sure. Some lists run a second Forest in side just to hardcast a Titan under a BM.
>>44550490
Esper Control plays better without Snapcaster than any other blue deck in Modern, but it is still suboptimal to play without him.
>>44550576
And why not ban exarch for the same reason ? Let's do this my friend ! Here we go. I'm calling WOTC right now.
Let's do this.
>>44550490
Most lists only play 2 snapcasters and its honestly not part of the deck's skelton. Esper's average mana cost is higher than something like Twin, so you can't just abuse 1 mana instants like URx decks can. You use Snapcaster Mage in Esper Control as a midgame grinding tool. When the cards you want to flashback are Cryptic Command and Esper Charm, having more than 2 just leads you to have some clunky hands where you can't cast Snappy for value.
So its not a big deal if you don't have them, but the deck is obviously better with at least 2 snapcasters Just have some kind of card that can help you grind in the midgame if you're not running them.
The shell of the deck is 4 think twice 4 esper charm 4 spell snare 4 path 2 revelation 1 white sun zenith 26 lands. That core should not be messed with at all.
Fuck twin and amulet, lantern is where the fun is at.
>>44550576
Why does it need a toning down? Amulet Bloom rarely gets wins at the same rate as shit like burn, affinity, tron, jund, twin, and infect.
Why single out bloom? Because of the off chance it kills you turn 2 with hivemind on a 6 card combo?
>>44550554
>It only sucks against Aggro
Depends on the build.
The version of Esper with 4 spell snares aren't that bad vs. aggro (Which is why I think playing Esper without maxing out on Spell Snare is supoptimal). Its bad against weird, fringe combo decks and Tron.
>>44550647
Losing is fun?
>>44550638
yeah, reading the primer currently.
looks actually like a neat deck, thanks for the suggestion
>>44550647
>2015+1
>Playing soft meme decks that 0-1-1 with the deck's creator piloting.
>>44550638
>26 lands
4 of those have to be Colonnade. It's as essential as any of the spells.
>bloom player on the phone rescheduling his flight
Inconsiderate with everyone it seems
>>44550707
That goes without saying.
>>44550621
>Best case scenario is a T4 win with perfect fixing and no counterspells
>Genrates around 15 mana with 2 land drops and puts down 2+ Primetimes on T2 after eating a counterspell
Lol Twin has a wincon therefore Amulet is balanced
>>44550711
Didn't one guy who played against eggs that one GP get up to go get McDonald's?
>>44550758
Kibler yeh, he just wrote F6 on a piece of paper.
>>44550783
https://youtu.be/zPM2d1q3-Gc?t=1489
>>44550758
He got up and left to get something but before doing that he wrote F6 on a piece of paper and left it on his side of the board.
>>44550755
>this happened once so it's overpowered and it happens everytime!!!!!!!!!!
Twin tears
>F6
is this some MODO thing I dont get?
Fucking F6
>>44550755
>>Genrates around 15 mana with 2 land drops and puts down 2+ Primetimes on T2 after eating a counterspell
Best case scenario too.
Still don't win T2. Just put titans in game and sometimes hit the face.
They are both bullshit anyway.
>>44550793
holy shit the f6 from hoogland
Rude
>>44550824
Means pass all priority until end of turn/do whatever you want.
>>44550824
Yeah. It let's your opponent have all priority to speed shit up or something
>>44550686
?
I think you're getting stuff mixed up. I wasn't talking about Esper Control being bad against aggro but Mono U Tron.
>>44550824
Yes, it basically means you don't do anything the entire turn. Skip all your chances to respond
>>44550850
Oh I thought you were talking to me, nvm anon.
There's literally no reason to play anything other than Amulet right now.
>>44550883
It's cool bro. On a side note I am interested as well.
>>44550940
Blood moon is a good reason
>>44550940
Fulminator Mage is a great reason not to play Amulet.
That Jeff guy looks 20 years older than he is.
>>44550940
Hows the autism friend?
>>44550964
Having 2 kids will do that to you.
>>44550945
I love talking about the deck because I think in the right metagame, it can be really powerful sort of like how BW tokens is great when the meta calls for it.
If you ever get to stabilize with Esper, its really hard to lose. There's a lot of power to the deck, especially in the late-game. I think the deck just needs some more good interaction in its colors printed.
>>44550793
I sat down and played Eggs once against a flesh and blood player. I exhibit some autistic tendencies so mentally it is something I am capable of doing with no real discomfort.
I never want to do that to someone again. The ability to do this in a game to someone is not something that should be encouraged.
I remember when I was young and we were playing soccer - a high school competitive match. One guy on our team was fucking insane, pretty much a demi-god of physical fitness and skill. For maybe thirty seconds he took the ball and danced around the field dekeing the entire team before scoring throwing in some juggling and fancy footwork. In sports, 30 seconds is a very long time, and it was utterly shameful what he did to the other team. The coach yelled at him for that and the rest of us at how disrespectful that was to a team that was clearly not as good as we were.
That's how I felt when I played Eggs.
This amulet deck is pretty good can't beat Raging Ravine
>>44550940
Yeah Bloom looks fucking insane right now
I mean this game doesn't even look fair
Please ban it
>>44550755
i remember storm got a ban that absolutely KILLED the deck's viablility because it SOMETIMES won on turn 3. amulet can win on turn 2 more consistently and through different angles of attack than storm does, but it's perfectly fine even if you lose turn 2 because someone got a god hand and modern's answers to this shit are so fucking weak.
I'm super thrilled to be watching this intense match of magic right now
>>44551263
Fuck off trip fag
>>44551263
I wish I went to sleep 2 hours instead of watching this, but im in too deep now to give up. I've f6'd watching
>>44551263
Not as thrilled as Jeff Hoogland. You can tell this guy is fucking pumped.
Three Prime Times in one turn. What the fuck? This shit needs to eat a ban.
>>44551274
this tbqh
![d1c5e792d1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CnNbS8l.jpg "d1c5e792d1[1].jpg")
>>44551263
This match is about to single handedly get Amulet Bloom banned.
Not for the power level, but for the make your opponent sit there while you do math factor.
>>44551252
Storm is still viable, and Legacy storm can kill on T1
>>44551263
Fucking christ this is almost as bad as Eggs
>>44551071
Apparently it can.
>>44551071
You're right. However it can beat the opponent though.
WHO /AMULETBAN/ HERE?!
>>44551309
I really don't think the deck is that overpowered but yeah this probably sealed its fate
Too much math and non-interaction and a huge amount of tears from people that lose to it
>>44547426
Sadly not every NEET parasite can live somewhere that cares about poor people. How's it feel to be living proof that a lot of trash gets caught in the safety net?
>>44551274
>>44551294
"oh no he's insulting my favorite most bestest deck better attack him"
Cant wait to see Bloom eat a ban.
>>44551283
I keep trying to fast forward forgetting that its live
>>44551286
It will. If storm isn't fair then amulet is
>>44551316
At least eggs requires skill.
>>44551309
Eggs 2.0
I've never been so bored watching magic in my life.
Are amulet players going to be shocked when it gets banned (even if every single retard has been calling it for months now) the same way podfags were?
>>44551316
>legacy storm can kill on turn 1
cool? this is modern, where you 're not supposed to kill before turn 4. MAYBE I'm wrong but Storm isn't even tier 2 IIRC.
>>44551366
No.
Sincerely,
An amulet bloom player.
RIP amulet.
>>44551364
>At least eggs requires skill.
The prime time itself may not require skill, the deck is extremly hard to pilot tho
>>44551373
> but Storm isn't even tier 2 IIRC.
Tier 3
BORING.
I stayed up until 8am for this shit.
>>44551366
No, I will just play another non-interactive deck because I can and I will win and you'll cry like a bitch internally.
>>44551366
Definately. There are enough bad pilots of every deck that no matter what happens they will complain that the deck wasnt even very good since they had such a poor win rate.
This is the deck I been looking to bully people with
>>44551364
I mean fuck off in general you gigantic faggot.
hopefully they ban summer bloom and not amulet. that way it can stay a playable but not as busted deck.
>>44551437
>that way it can stay a playable
No lol.
>>44551437
Without summer bloom it won't be playable
Jesus christ I'm disappointing with the outcome.
>summer bloom ban
>no unbans
>>44551427
Ban updates are when? Two weeks? You shouldn't buy anything right now.
I just realized that a possible solution to all the "unfair" combo decks in Modern can be solved by introducing Worldly Tutor into the format.
T1 you simply fetch from your sideboard for the appropriate hate-bear silver-bullet and Death and Taxes them. The problem with the hate-bears is that they are too narrow and are simply shit creatures on their own.
Haha even the winner is talking about how unfun the deck is and how it makes shitty coverage. Even he thinks its gunna eat a ban
>>44551428
>>44551473
The problem with hatebears is a turn 2 3/4 Tarmogoyf shits on your deck until you get flyers out
>>44551486
"its not hard to play its just very weird"
>tfw after amulet gets banned I'll just play Ad Nauseam and make people cry again until enough people cry to get it banned because WOTC is pussies and can't have twin vs tron vs jund the format broken up
>>44551486
>>44551521
Yo my man, there's this hip new website called reddit. You should check it out. Seeing your posts makes me believe that you'd fit right in.
>>44551558
That's a pretty dank meme anon.
>>44551490
Hatebears are always going to be garbage against Tarmogoyf decks, but I think giving hatebear cards (not the deck itself) the extra edge through Worldly Tutor to wreck their appropriate decks would be very good for the format.
I'm perfectly fine with Tarmogoyf just plowing through them. It's not only Tarmogoyf doing that, Tarmogoyf decks are probably going to be removing them from the table.
>>44551558
Sorry I'll start making my posts there so you can downvote me and feel really good about yourself :3
>>44551582
THANK GOD. You can relax guys. I got rid of the giant faggot trip fag. He's gone now.
>>44551619
The tripfag is obnoxious, but at least he talks about magic and stays on-topic.
>>44550515
i have 2 at the moment. I want to hold off on finishing the set but at the same time I want to get them before people panic and drive the price up to 30+
>>44551309
> This match is about to single handedly get Amulet Bloom banned.
Probably. Wizards couldn't be assed to ban it in the past months, but they love knee-jerk last minute bans.
Watch the MTGO explain again why the Banned List could only be adapted 6 weeks later.
>>44551309
I think we forget that in the Top 8 they get infinite time to make decisions. If you're thinking that long in a regular match you get called out for slow play if you're not advancing the board state.
>>44551473
Nah that would end up with people doing stuff like setting up perfect Collected Company flips and Cascades. And then you'll have every Serum Visions be functionally: UG "Search your library for a creature card and put it on top of your library. Then draw a card and scry 2." Grishoalbrand will also just aim to put Borborygmos on top as well making a very consistent kill.
>>44551535
Ad nauseam is not really bullshit compared to bloom though.
>>44551578
problem is hatebears run leonin arbiter in their deck which can cause issues. actually if wizards were to unban stonforge as some believe might happen hatebear decks would have to chose between the arbiter land denial plan or running the stoneforge package
tutor would probably end up helping other decks more than hatebears
>>44551535
Ad Nauseam gets kept in check by Infect and discard quite hard in game 1.
>>44551752
Well Living Wish is just too fucking slow, which is depressing when you think about it. Worldly Tutor is ultimately card disadvantage, which is why I think it would be a fair kick to the teeth when you're 1-for-0ing yourself to get a silver bullet. If Grishoalbrand gets a leg up I'm pretty sure I'd be okay with that or at least willing to suffer 3 months of it until it gets banned again. 3 months isn't a lot of Modern play for most people, for me that's only three events (one per month). There is significantly worse shit to put up with in Magic before Wizards does anything (or simply not fix anything at all).
>>44551774
The argument against Tutor you used is the same that could be used against Stoneforge. I know for a fact that Stoneforge for Batterskull will just be used as a value play and cause more collateral damage to the feasibility of some decks than the opportunities that it would provide. That being said, the reason why I would want to try Worldly Tutor is simply because we haven't seen the sort of damage it could cause whereas I know very well what Stoneforge can do
>>44551774
I play Death and Taxes, and I would probably just run Arbiter and Stoneforge together. It's a nonbo, but it can be played around.
Are deck lists posted anywhere for the tournament? I want to get a look at the bloom titan build.
Wining with tron without completing tron, vs 8rack, just because he runs out of time
>>44551635
All he does is say stupid shit and cry about decks that aren't Jund
>wah ban karn
>ban amulet!
>blood moon will be legal if 8 and 9 Edition are banned because MM!
What a fucking moron.
>>44551990
Star city games probably has it on their website
>>44551437
ban ancient stirrings
>>44551990
http://sales.starcitygames.com/deckdatabase/deckshow.php?event_ID=47&t[T2]=28&start_date=2016-01-02&end_date=2016-01-02&state=OH&city=Cincinnati&order_1=finish&limit=8&t_num=1&action=Show+Decks
>>44552077
top kek
>>44552007
Karns just a personal opinion of mine, and Amulet Bloom will eat a ban 4sure. Had no idea about the blood moon thing though that's my bad. Jund is ill positioned right now IMO so I've switched to Twin for a while.
>>44552151
Thanks, really wanna build Kiki-Chord now.
Is Bobby trans? Why he got titties?
I'm having a really damn hard time as affinity against Junk. I basically have to kill them before they stabilize or i just get overwhelmed with lingering souls with gavonry township counters, and even finks gaining them just that little bit of life. What do? I run 3x whipflare in the sideboard already but other than that all I can think of is "Kill them faster"
Can anyone point me to a guide of how to get into modern, pls?
>>44552321
Honestly just sounds like you're bad with the deck
