ITT cliches and tropes you will never tire of.
>Evil being sexier than good.
>Dwarven expletives involving beards.
Evil being sexier than good isn't a trope, it's a fact.
>>44453573
What is it that makes evil so goddamn sexy?
>>44453656
Power, confidence.
>>44454037
And good designers.
Evil is just the coolest, hands down. They always have the coolest uniforms. Does anyone even cosplay the rebel alliance in the star wars fandom?
>>44453656
Black is a very flattering color.
>>44454066
>tfw you will never be able to enjoy the designs of Hugo Boss without being called a Nazi.
Jackboots too. I want them back.
>>44454154
>mfw I got my first tailored suit from Hugo Boss
>>44454154
Hugo Boss didn't design any Nazi uniforms. His factory manufactured a few of them, but he had no hand in the design
>>44454150
The Rebel / Republic helmets have always been ass.
Hell, I think they actually WERE just bike helmets back when the props came from junkyards.
>>44454150
It wasn't easy rooting for the villains in god damn near everything growing up. Evil never wins, but it always loses with style.
>>44453656
Hugo Boss.
>>44454248
That's probably the appeal of 40k. Everyone is sexy bad guys.
>>44453483
Party boards a Huey and it lifts off with the setting sun behind it while the DM hums I See a Red Door.
>>44453483
>the moron is actually incredibly powerful and competent in a fight
>>44454248
Man, even as a child I rooted for the Empire.
Why? Because even as a child I could make the connections between organized galactic crime syndicates and cartels and the people who would become the pillars of the new governing body.
The Empire may have been fucking cruel when Sheev Sheev'd it, but it wasn't fucking Galaxy-sized Mexico like the New Republic was going to be from beginning to end.
>>44454313
Kinesthetic learning is a thing.
>>44454327
Except for the fact that Sheev expressly was involved with the various criminal groups too?
>>44454354
It's the difference between North America and South America.
>>44454280
Everyone in 40k looks fucking retarded. The primary appeal of 40k is that it's a nonstop power-fantasy.
>>44454379
Necrons look pretty neat.
>>44454370
By that analogy the Rebellion was...which one?
Because they were the ones not involved in the Hutt Cartels, unlike Sheev.
>>44454150
The Empire did nothing wrong.
>>44453656
christianism basically
>>44454379
>The primary appeal of 40k is that it's a nonstop power-fantasy.
As an actual 40k player, the primary appeal of 40k is that it's something you can get a game of and it doesn't look as fucking retarded as warmahordes. Nothing more.
>Order/Chaos dynamic
>horsemen of the apocalypse
>cannibal gods with multiple arms
>>44453483
>The NPC that the party took the piss with winds up sacrificing themselves to save the party/give them the opening they need against the main baddie.
>bone armor
>blood magic
>huge underground world
>fungus forest
>raised skeleton warriors (not playable, fuck your meme characters)
>>44454379
Talk shit get hit.
Chests full of loot
>>44453656
Evil people and groups are pretty much always harmful to anyone who isn't them. In order to keep from getting trounced by everyone around them these guys have to put more effort into looking good.
Doing good generally requires more effort and most good guys rely on the fact they genuinely offer aid to earn the trust of others. This usually results in a more utilitarian appearance and outlook.
While good spends it time toiling to fulfil it's responsibilities, evil is writing snappy one-liners and designing their uniforms.
It's the difference between a smiling dude in a frumpy sweater handing out cans of soup and a chick in dominatrix outfit handing out cocaine and lottery tickets.
>>44453656
Sex is bad and wrong, so it's okay to make the evil character sexy since they're not the role model.
>>44456453
Also when good fucks up they have a bunch of people to let down. A heroes flaws become so much more apparent when it results in collateral damage.
Since evil generally only cares about itself or it's agenda it has no one to disappoint. The bar is a lot lower. No collateral damage to worry about means more flexibility, which can ether make up for personal quirks, add a bit of style or grant more opportunity to achieve a goal quickly and "efficiently."
Should a villain fail and die they can leave behind a legacy of fascinating violence. Onlookers, whom were subject to the villain's wrongs, can lament the loss of an interesting character.
A dead hero leave behind unfinished business and more work for the normal people. The audience sees their own failed responsibility in this figure. His outfit probably looks bad too.
>>44453656
Because you see it on tv, and producers figured out a while ago that if you make evil and good handsome you have a wider target audience.
>>44454354
But Anon, a good government owns the criminal underworld. After all, there is a lot of shit they can't get their hands dirty doing.
Fertility/harvest goddess has the best rack
>>44455875
Jokes on you asswipe, that is a grav gun and that ork is sporting all of a 6+ save. Have fun getting punked before you swing with your slow as shit power fist.
HE IS LITERALLY EATING YOUR DEATHRAY WHILE STARING AT HIS AXE LOVINGLY PONDERING WHEREST TO PLANT IT IN YOUR BODY
>>44453483
retired badass crossed by someone, comes back from retirement and gets together the old crew.
may or may not it's the bbeg
>Good being prettier than evil
>>44459900
Disregard this, I read it as cliches and tropes you are tired of
>>44453483
Good being stronger than evil.
>>44454379
You mean everyone really into 40k has mother issues.
>>44459912
You do know that you can delete your posts, correct?
>murder-machine baddie who refuses to be reasoned with
>>44456453
>>44456867
I don't have a reaction image: but if I did, it would be called:
>Stunned admiration
>>44454150
There's enough people who cosplay as a Cloud City accountant who sometimes works for the Rebels that it's an actual event at some conventions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w90GllUe2-E
>>44453483
I would have so many insightful things to say but can not remember them right now, as evil sexy ladies compel me to think with my benis.
>>44453483
>bad ass bar owner lady/drag queen with a big fuck-off shotgun/axe hanging from a wall.
these ladies usually have the pilot missions for fresh faced adventurers living in the sticks.
It's not really a feminist thing. i just thinks it's funny when they try starting shit they get decimated.
Honestly, they should have known better.
>>44453483
>colossal monsters/golems that carry cities on their backs
>martials reaching superhuman heights through training or access to their own brand of supernatural energy
>badass NPCs
>>44453483
>skulls of various forms and shapes as cosmetics for both good and evil
>weather shifting depending on who's fighting
>despite there being fucking huge things fighting, the focus of the fight is somewhere else
>lizardmen ride dinosaurs
>>44454327
>Man, even as a child I rooted for the Empire.
This, I also always liked them, even as a child.
I also never met anyone who DIDN'T root for them.
But I'm not from First World country, it probably has something to do with it.
>>44453483
Know it's mostly a fapbait thing but I like elves being a bit lewd but also snootyalso all femdom, not just drow, like victorian noble who's going on and on about how one should properly behave and will look down on you for a single misstep (not to mention being of a lower class), but has some kinky shit hidden in the closet
>>44460160
seconded
>>44453483
>Fuckhuge armies marching to war
>last stands
>betrayals
>a great evil beeing revealed as a cliffhanger
>the villain going on a rampage against people with no importance for the plot
>>44454327
>>44460863
>supporting the Empire under Palpatine
I didn't think you idiots were real.
>>44460553
Now I'm imagining a bar owner who's a sexy shemale who spent his/her adventure retire ment becoming the perfect women (assuming sex change magic wasn't a thing in this setting)
>>44460784
Aztec lizardmen riding dinosaurs never loses style, though they could use some more girls
>humans can fuck anything
>and make viable kids from it
I'm a huge fan of Kirk
>redeeming the villain at the end of it all
>the former villain slowly becoming a hero in their own right
It can work with or without forshadowing, with shows how they were ultimately misguided, but without can hilight that they truly had something click and change their heart, the heaviest of burdens often make the most compelling as their sense of atonement drives them to greater deeds of good, and yet they stay so humble, simply seeing it as back pay for their actions
>>44457212
Yeah but she's nearly always taken.
>>44463082
mah nigga.
Ever do I pursue my dream of an amazonian warhammer armyMaybe it's time I try to play a Wych cult
>>44454200
Old Republic designs are pretty cool though
>females look just that critical bit more human then the males
>transformations midfight
>>44463367
Thank you. I want this to be a thing in real life.
>Fire an employee just before Christmas and deny him his bonus
>Shows back up in tears with a gun
>Shoots me in the head
>Sit back up, adjust my tie, watch as he barfs from seeing what happened to the eye he hit
>"You little shit, you seriously thought this was my final form?"
>after armies, monsters, mecha and everything else it comes down to two characters half naked, unarmed, beating the crap put of eachother
>>44463447
SNAAAKE
>>44463432
>Freeza clan corporate politics in a nit shell
>>44463458
LIIIQUIIIIID
>>44463295
What do you mean by this?
>>44463432
I honestly have a raging boner for them.
>>44463367
>TIME TO REALIIIIIZE
I've always been a fan of
>the enemy is a mirror to the hero, with similar if not the same skills, ex. Jetstream Sam or DIO.
>>44463447
I want to put a twist on it, they are on opposite sides but are sincerely in love too, so the fight degenerates into a different form of passion
>>44463480
Like how when you have female orcs they always have a less ugly face? Or how the frog women always have dem hips, little things
>>44463497
If the Solid/Liquid fight turned to passion, would that make it a threesome?
>>44463527
Well by that point ocelot had ditched the posessed arm so no.
>>44463497
So... The MGS4 final fight.Dat kiss tho
>>44463584
From what I understand from the MGS encyclopedia, he'd actually gotten rid of the possessed arm right after the tanker incident in MGS2, but thought "Hey, everyone thinking I'm Liquid will actually motivate Snake more to come after me" so he went through some brainwashing to make himself think he was still possessed. He breaks out of said self-inflicted brainwashing in the middle of that fight, when he switches fighting styles.
>>44463295
iirc they did this with the trolls in WoW because female players wanted a pretty character.
>>44463656
Ocelot, you cray.
Thought of another, though:
>punching god (or the mortal equivalency) in the face
I love the sort of... modern? urban? whatever kind of fantasy, the kind where the a kid might miss his Geography class because he stayed up all night messing with fireballs and stuff. Where swords and handguns can co-exist.
I'm also a fan of... mundane magic? the sort of thing where magic isn't treated as some super grand thing, instead you get things like sentient washing utensils and sports with magic balls, Harry Potter did it quite well in the earlier books.
>>44453483
Those things look like seagulls in the thumbnail. Then again, seagulls are fucking evil, and fucking terrible.
But speaking of Evil, I love me a good charismatic villain. The sort of villain who gets the audience on his side, despite the fact that they know he's a villain. Pic very related.He did nothing wrong.
>>44460406
Dat butterface twa'lik
>>44463129
>I'm a huge fan of Kirk
Except Kirk didn't really fuck all that many aliens, and he has only one illegitimate child that we know of. The thing is, Kirk was a 60's leading man, just like Connery James Bond, and that means he uses his self-evident male sexuality to get what he wants, in the same way only women do in modern television.
In real life, it turns out Spock was what got panties wet. And in the show Bones gets nearly as much action, and just as easily, as Kirk. Such as in this episode, where he takes a break from getting into the pants of the woman in uniform to have a threesome with two sexbots.
>>44463810
I think even better are the ones that the audience can't decide who to root for, because the villain is so charismatic, but the plan so evil, it is impossible to choose.
>necromancer has big tits
>>44463367
>tfw you have actually gotten to do this
>tfw you are the GOOD guy, and you finally had enough of their bullshit
>thundering RIDE IT OUT at your table
>Robots, both cute and scary
>big strong honorable knight dude somehow on the bad guy's side
>>44463488
>who are you?!
>I'm the Hero
>Classical Greek elements
>Passionate heroic spirit sees the hero through when he might otherwise be outmatched
>Making undead is inherently evil/harmful, even if you're sincerely trying to use them responsibly for a good cause
>>44460160
>>44462971
On a side note, is anyone else really sick of sympathetic antivillains at this point? Why does every BBEG these days need some tragic backstory to explain why they're such a dick? Why do we stigmatize angsty, brooding protagonists who never shut up about how sorry you should feel for them but praise angsty, brooding antagonists who do the same thing? They're basically the same thing. I see people try to claim muh realism, but it isn't realistic at all to make every villain like that. Bernie Madoff probably isn't going to write a tell-all memoir from prison where he reveals how he was molested by financial regulators as a child. "I like money and power and don't care about anyone but me" is a way more believable motive than whatever pseudo-Freudian bullshit your DM is likely to come up with.
I swear, Game of Thrones has done nearly as much damage to fantasy RPGs as Watchmen did to superheroes, which is made all the worse by the fact that, like Watchmen, Game of Thrones isn't actually like that at all.
>>44464353
>Why does every BBEG these days need some tragic backstory to explain why they're such a dick?
Because more often than not, bbegs are humans, and people want to know what can make a man that way, because we know now it's not because of the devil, random evil spirits, or being born under a bad star that makes humans go bad.
Even then, the guys you chose are poor examples of that. Nox is a good example, both because he is sympathetic despite being an absolute bastard, and he is genuinely well written with a past any parent could understand, especially if they lost a child.
>>44463367
If nothing else, I'm glad Anima has several ways of pulling this off.
>>44454261
underrated post
>>44453656
Because evil is really good.
>>44456867
>Onlookers, whom were subject to the villain's wrongs
Should be:
>were NOT subject to the villain's wrongs
>>44463944
>but what does Jason Schreier of kotaku have to say about this?
>>44464028
>>44463810
He was definitely likeable from the audience's perspective.
But he did do pretty much everything wrong.
It was sort of his thing. Nobody liked him because he acted like an arrogant slimeball and he was mediocre at best at his job. His entire arc is him fucking up and resorting to more despicable acts to make up for his fuck-ups while everyone tells him to stop. Dukat is that one guy you know who is desperately wants everyone to like him despite all his lies and douchy behaviour.
As for Bajor, he mostly just following orders. His rule probably wouldn't have been any better or worse than any other Cardassian. But he tried to push this image of being a benevolent hero to the people that could never have worked in any universe. Dukat ended up getting way to emotionally invested in his position to the point of to the point of maddness. It didn't actually motivate him to do anything good for anyone other than himself -well, he was nice to that one bajorian chick he banged and he decided not to kill his daughter, so that's almost something- but mostly it just lead to a lot of self-entitled whining.
At heart Dukat is a normal dude who thinks he deserves to be so much more than he is. He constantly fall for plots set by his enemies and friends, has very little tact in negotiations and switches sides whenever he think it will make him look cool. At the very best he was gifted in the art of being a pawn and a patsy. He's totally willing to act the part of the hero or the villain but there isn't enough genuine strength in him to succeed.
He's a dude doomed by a lack of self-consciousness. It's a really common failing and that's probably why he's such a great villian
>>44454725
is that chick pregnant or just fat?
>>44463760
>>44464435
Wasn't he also driven nuts from the cube?
>>44470009
Given the thigh pinch and folds everywhere else, I assume body fat
>>44470328
thank you
>>44470009
>2016
>not being high test
>>44454725
>Order/Chaos dynamic
Do you read the web comic pieces of 8?
>>44453483
I honestly like young prodigy boy/girl spell casters
>>44464353
>is anyone else really sick of sympathetic antivillains at this point?
I am, I like a good sob story every now and then for maybe a mook or some sort of minor villain, but I've always liked major villains that are bad through no one else's actions but their own.
>>44453483
>Enemy males are torn apart, brutally murdered and destroyed
>Female villains die in the wimpiest ways or are "redeemed"
I demand equally shitty deaths for villians
>>44473522
Kay
>Enemy males now die in the wimpiest ways or get redeemed
>>44467462
>muh ten gabillion bajewrans
that was actually pretty low for the amount of time they spent on that lpanet
>>44453483
>the world is located on a god-like entities body
I love that one.
>>44473522
Reading comprehension.
>>44463168
>Sexy
>Sane
>Single
Pick one.
>>44464028
>Who are you?!
>The Villain.
Fucking Kubo, Renji Jobarai always gets my blood pumping, on top of usual stellar hypework
>>44467462
This is a good post
Do another villainThaal Sinestro or DOOM, perhaps?
>>44463944
That image has the most stupid reasoning imaginable.
>>44474399
>>44463890
...pic not related, I trust?
I'm sure there were reasons for playing up the dumbass manchild aspect of Ultron as opposed to the hypercompetant ever-adapting killbot aspect, but they weren't worth it.
Now, Frank Langella's Skeletor on the other hand...
>the bad guy who's just a bounty hunter out to kill the hero
>only works for money
>he comes back later>IT'S PERSONAL THIS TIME
muh dick
>someone walks in at the most inopportune moment
>the BBEG's lieutenant is a good man, but too loyal to turn on his master
>>44454261
Supreme kek
>>44474707
>"FIRE THE GUN"
>"sir, but our own men are still down there"
>"FIRE"
>"no"
>lieutenant is killed
everytime, but it's nice when the BBEG goes so nuts his men turn on him
>>44473564
I thinks its generally assumed that the number is more a reflection of writer ignorance than anything in-universe.
I always like it when one of the villain's henchmen doesn't actually have any ill will toward the heroes and is only fighting them out of loyalty or because it pays the bills. So when he and the heroes run into each other "off the clock" he's willing to help them out, or at least leave them alone.
Villains being redeemed and helping the heroes in general has always appealed to me.
>Recurring enemy party
When done right, it's an absolute blast.
>BBEG treats his underlings with respect, and understands reasonable failure
>>44470651
>2015
>Saying it's 2016 like a goddamn liar.
>>44474496
They played him that way because he had aspects of the Cinematic Universe's Tony Stark, similar to 616's version taking after Hank Pym.
>>44453656
Remember, love your enemies. Pray for those who persecute you. It's plenty easier to do the former when they're physically attractive.
>>44476948
Got any examples?I don't
>>44463060
Palpatine is pretty tame compared to actual rulers my country had.
So his Empire is OK.
>BBEG gets backstabbed by the BBEG villain of the story who has been a relevantly obscure but somewhat reoccurring character that everyone underestimated
rivalries, i absolutely love rivalries between two powerful people
>>44474496
>Not loving Ultron's depiction
How can anyone be this pleb?
>>44480043
Well, I'm the GM, so my example of "Good" one is subjective - albeit all of my players have, by their own words, loved what I've done thusfar.
Said party are agents of a mysterious force trying to spread strife across the world, while the actual, PC party is trying to stop said force, and henceforth, get in cahoots with the enemy party repeatedly.
What I did was try to make them endearing, and to actually interact with the party. I've kind of saw with my own eyes other DM's trying to make enemy parties "Badass" and "Mysterious", and the players just looking bored, because they can't actually engage with them.
So, what I did was...well, make them fairly fallible, and actually quite like players. They argue, they try to do "cool" shit and sometimes fuck up.
This doesn't mean all of them are useless jokers, of course. There's two more laid-back and goofy ones, two more serious one, and one that's around the middle. They're still strong and quite competent, but they're not distant or unreacheable. There's sort of a friendly rivalry going between them, despite the seriousness of their conflict.
Really, I wish I could go more indepth, but my players read /tg/, and they'll get fucking spoiled. If you want me to explain anything else, I'll try.
Natural elements of the world are made/managed by an office/factory like it's a job. The department of gravity. The craftsmen who take pride in their work of Volcano building. The whimsical fairies that make the clouds. I love that kind of stuff.
>>44474707
>>44474789
Feel like these two fit that trope pretty well.
Or, at least they're the first two that came to mind.
