Show us the glorious reinforcements and/or supplies you recieved this Christmas edition.
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Since /vg/ doesn't have a general for it, is this where I would post about DoW II games?
>>44401449
No. Youre just gonna have to make a thread on /v/
>>44400931
This thread now belongs to the orks!!I2[/spoiler
>>44400931
>Show us the glorious reinforcements and/or supplies you recieved this Christmas edition.
Got some meganobz, 20 nobz, 10 flash gitz, 2 dakkajets and a battlewagon for xmas
Now I need 4 more battlewagons
>>44401576
Man what the hell.... I wish I could get 40k gifts
>>44401512
v is terrible and doesn't talk about videogames, why would you suggest that?
>>44400931
Well I got myself the OOP keeper, just about finish with the greenstuff work.
>formatting
Personally I like to do this. K.I.S.S. always, no one wants to trudge through a page of text and we don't need to know all the wargear that comes standard. i like using battlescribe but it's too text heavy at times. and list the point value of the list, i don't wanna be doing some math looking at a list.
1850 daemons CAD
Keeper, lv3, greater gift and grimoire. 270.
S. Herald, seeker, exalted loci, greater gift. 110
S. Herald, seeker, exalted loci, greater gift. 110
3 fiends 105
3 fiends 105
15 daemonettes, champ. 140
15 daemonettes. 135
15 daemonettes. 135
hellflayer 60
hellflayer 60
S. Prince, armor, wings, lv3, whip 310
S. Prince, armor, wings, lv3, whip 310
ps3以前のトレーラームービーを見れば解る破壊されたドレットノートの上にオルクが吠えてる
>>44402068
>ps3以前のトレーラームービーを見れば解る破壊されたドレットノートの上にオルクが吠えてる
What?
>>44402125
best ignore any nonsense you see posted like that. I always assume mentioning it only puts you higher on a list.
Would "Pink Mist" be an acceptable nickname for a Tau commander?
>>44402154
only if s/he gets killed easily
>>44402198
or if they're especially killy and/or wield explosive purple crystal needle weaponry
>>44402154
frankly, doesnt really suit most established commander names, but go for it
>>44401449
Go ahead.
>>44402154
Look dude. The Tau don't get names at birth. They earn their names from their achievements and skills.
You got to think of a story of how your commander got that name
>>44402154
Isn't it a bit too morbid?
>>44402287
Too morbid? In 40k? No such thing.
Why is our fucking wiki down.
>>44402325
>Badscragg gawped at the carnage in the valley below. The Orks had been advancing on a miners’ town, expecting a few scared humies to stomp. As they drew near to the settlement, the greenskins had slowed at the sight of mounds of mangled corpses. Moments later, howling bloody murder, a horde of red-armoured Chaos boyz had come charging out to attack. The greenskins had roared their approval of a proper battle. However, it had soon become apparent that it was possible to have too much of a good thing. A snaggletoothed old Loota, Badscragg reckoned he’d more or less seen it all. But he’d never witnessed carnage like this. The Chaos boyz weren’t just killing the Orks, they were ripping them to bits. Ork throats were torn out by jagged fangs, the gushing blood drunk down in great draughts. Lashing tentacles tore off greenskin limbs and stuffed them into gaping maws. Skin was flayed, bones broken, and Ork guts ripped out by the fistful. Zog this, thought Badscragg, beginning to sidle slowly away from the fight. Even Orks had their limits, and this surpassed his. Suddenly, the Loota was plunged into shadow, choking on the reeking stink of sulphur. Badscragg looked up in sudden horror as something truly monstrous descended upon him, and then everything turned to blood and pain.
-From Codex "Daemonkin"
I dunno.
The fact that even Orks can get grossed out by extreme over the top violence implies there are some limits in the setting.
>>44402422
Well then, i clearly need to read the daemonkind book. I think maybe the dark eldar fight that graphically for sport
>>44402422
>Chaos Boyz
What unfortunate chaos god is going to get the shit kicked out of him by Gork and Mork? Pretty dumb idea to corrupt and Ork with those two around.
>>44402422
But that's 40k, over the top in every aspect. It was better when it was more tongue in cheek, but turning the dial to 11 out of 5 was always standard operating procedure.
>>44402650
It's not talking about Chaos Ork Boyz, rather it's written in ork pow and is a reference to Chaos marines or cultists or something.
>>44402650
>Gork and Mork
>Beating the Chaos Gods
In AoS, they got their asses kicked by a single Chaos champion.
On the topic of the Necron Annihilation barge, gauss cannon or tesla cannon? I'm leaning on the gauss due to AP3 and the ability to threaten AV14.
>>44403300
i'd go for gauss.
What's a good list for Khorne Daemonkin? I'm really feeling them as an army, but not sure how to build them.
>>44403334
lots of gorepacks
>>44403022
>yeah well in AoS
and chaos in its entirety was beaten by a blue cartoon mascot
>>44403342
Is the Gorepack that good?
>>44403300
Teslas are great for shock value cos they can theoretically score 6 hits over the Gauss. The Gauss, however, does everything you've listed and will never surprise. So if you want a little bit of random burst, rock out the tesla. If you want more consistency in results, take the gauss.
I've got $300 to spend on orks as my first army cause they look fun.
I'm thinking the boxed set that has the orks and marines but I don't know what else to buy besides the codex, plz help /wh40kg/.
>>44403388
Assault on Black Reach is a good buy, but the marine side is wasted. You should find one that's selling for less than it's original price and somehow split the marines.
>>44400931
Awaiting delivery of 10 Kommandos and 2 NIB trukks to use for buggy conversions.
>>44403334
A lot of it depends on how you wanna play the KDK. If you want max speed, run a CAD and slap in everything that moves 12" or more. The only exception would be your troop choice but you can either run min sized CSM for fire support or min sized blood letters to deepstrike. Note, however, that if you run the CAD your blood point generation will be shit. It will, at best, be a nice bonus you get every other round or so or, at worse, a non factor.
If you want to max out your blood point generation, you'll want the bloodhost. From here, there's a variety of ways to play it. Here's a couple of examples all based on what you want to do with your points.
1. Summon shitloads of stuff.
Run a min size slaughtercult, focus on shooting. Then tack on as many war engines as you have the points for. Your best bets are the forgefiends and maybe a maulerfiend or 2. you then sit back and pepper your opponent with shots until you get enough points to summon. Always give your slaughtercult the fnp bonus as a secondary.
2. Maxed out attacks.
You want a large slaughtercult for this. Lots of bloodletters, CSM, etc. You want fast auxiliaries so Gorepack definitely. The idea of this variant is to maximize the amount of dice you're throwing in the assault phase and you do so by always taking the +1 attack and depending on what you need, giving your slaughter cult fnp or rage + furious charge. A herald on a blood throne with the locus of wrath is also pretty nice here.
>>44403362
The gorepack bonuses are pretty meh. It however uses 2 really good units - bikes + flesh hounds - so people like it a lot and consider the bonus rules a nice thing that comes up every now and again. So yea, it's pretty good.
>>44403397
I've heard that lootas make a really good addition to any ork army, is that true?
>>44400931
Shop closing sale (Owner found a better job) right before christmas+ juicy tax return= New army
>>44403352
>and chaos in its entirety was beaten by a blue cartoon mascot
Wut?
>>44403453
Which would you recommend of the Slaughtercult options? Is summoning worth it? I feel like if the enemy gets in and gibs some of my units before I can summon, I'll be fucked.
Hey 40k general!
I got a Hive Tyrant for christmas and kitted him out with wings and 2xtwin devourers (Using the fleshborer hive 'guns' from the tervigon I also got)
He's gonna be painted to be part of the rest of my 'Hive fleet Golgotha' and is a hell-of-a-lot bigger than my old 2nd edition hive tyrant.
What suitably killy name should I give this bad boy to strike terror in the hearts of my meals?
CSM dex release when???
>>44403529
"One of Six"
>>44403552
2017 at the earliest.
>>44403560
>>44403529
Jon.
No pics now but my present to myself was:
<2x Earthshaker Batteries
<2x Medusa Batteries
<2x legion gravguns
<1x legion plasmaguns
<1x Knight Warden conversion kit
>>44403529
Gallbladder.
>>44403529
Foie Gras.
>>44403734
jesus christ how horrifying
>>44403465
Lootas are one of our best units. Mek Gunz, Tankbustas and Biker Boyz round out the rest of our really good stuff. Avoid actually buying the Mek Gun kit unless you want to take out a second mortgage to pay for a single unit. Mek Gunz can be fairly easily kitbashed from junk and other kits, and are a great project for a new Mek to cut his teeth on. Converting is one of the great joys of Orks.
Get an idea in your head for what you want to play and go from there. Speedy? Choppy? Shooty? Horde? Elites? Vehicles? Walkers? Orks excel at spamming one type of thing that hopefully the enemy didn't bring enough of the counter for. Mix and match Ork lists sadly don't work on anything other than the most casual setting.
>>44403529
"Unko"
It means "Warrior Tyrant" in Japanese.
>>44403825
I still prefer the Spanish swarmlord translation of 'Senor De La Horda' or the French hive tyrant translation 'Prince Tyranide'
>>44403825
Come on, we all now it meansluck
>>44403842
Sorry, man. I got it confused with ちんぽ I haven't done my reps in awhile. Chinpo means "Warrior Tyrant." Unko means "Luck."
>>44403860
Perfect. Also that name is perfect for the leader of a Tyranids army
>>44403885
>Wanting to let space commies name your hive tyrant
plz no.
Where I can get some female hair and faces for some minis?
>>44403841
But "Prince" has nothing to do with swarmlord. "seigneur de l'essaim" would have been a better, if not proper, translation.but what do I know about French
>>44403970
What sized minis? For what kind of unit?
>>44403970
Cut it from unsuspecting girls on the street.
>>44403985
Infantry.
>>44403529
Chupacabras.
>>44403841
What about Signore dello Sciame?
>>44403980
but that actually is the translated for swarmlord. But if you reread, you'll see that was the French translation for Hive Tyrant.
>>44403994
Like what? demeneted cultists/beserkers? Imperial guard?
>>44404031
Imperial Guard.
What's better against sm at 750 pts: pathfinders with ion rifles or rail rifles?
>>44404071
Rail Rifles ignore their armour, although the overcharged Ion rifles are also worth it. Ion rifles are better against targets with high Toughness and are more versatile. Just bear in mind that you will need a markerlight to improve their accuracy. Also both are Rapid Fire.
>>44404048
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/
Specialises in not!Imperial-guard.
Some GW stores may throw a shitfit over non-GW products if you use more than 25% in a model though.
>>44404096
And ion rifles better against av targets? I just want run full of infantry with fishes.
>>44403988
"CALM DOWN BITCH, I'M JUST BUILDING SOME SISTERS OF BATTLE"
>>44404112
AP is only rellevant for bonus in the penetration hit table. You want high S vs AV (although you are going to risk overcharge for more reliable shots against anything higher than 11). The basic Tau rifle can kill vehicles with AV 10 quite easily.
>>44404112
Bring EMP grenades.
>>44404008
Tiranno Margherita
>>44404179
Something like that?
Tau Empire: Codex (2015) (Formation Detachment) (747pts)
Counterstrike Cadre (747pts)
Breacher Team w/ Devilfish (200pts) [EMP Grenades (20pts)]
Fire Warrior Shas'ui with Pulse Blaster (19pts) [Field Amplifier Relay, Photon Grenades]
9x Fire Warrior with Pulse Blaster (81pts) [9x Field Amplifier Relay, 9x Photon Grenades]
TY7 Devilfish (80pts) [2x MV1 Gun Drone, Burst Cannon]
Pathfinder Team w/ Devilfish (187pts)
5x Pathfinder (55pts) [5x Photon Grenades, 5x Pulse Carbine with Markerlight]
2x Pathfinder with Rail Rifle (52pts) [2x Photon Grenades, 2x Rail Rifle (30pts)]
TY7 Devilfish (80pts) [2x MV1 Gun Drone, Burst Cannon]
Strike Team w/ Devilfish (180pts) [9x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle (81pts), Photon Grenades]
Fire Warrior Shas'ui (19pts) [Pulse Rifle]
TY7 Devilfish (80pts) [2x MV1 Gun Drone, Burst Cannon]
Strike Team w/ Devilfish (180pts) [9x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle (81pts), Photon Grenades]
Fire Warrior Shas'ui (19pts) [Pulse Rifle]
TY7 Devilfish (80pts) [2x MV1 Gun Drone, Burst Cannon]
Im starten a salamanders army for 40k, and I was wondering if i could bring in some 30k pyroclasts without going full 30k?
>>44404100
That rules out IG headswaps then.
>>44404343
If your opponent agrees you can, but not by RAW.
Would the War Convocation been unfair to run at 1500 points?
>>44404197
Tiranno Pizza.
I can't show it because Wayland hasn't even received their stock yet, much less sent it. If I don't get even an update by Jan 10 I'm getting a paypal refund and try to find somewhere that won't fleece me with shipping..
>>44404071
speaking of 750point how does my nid list sound:
HQ:
Flyrant with 2xdevourers
Tervigon + cluster spines
Troops:
Tervign + cluster spines
30xTermagaunts
gonna play a 12000 points apocalypse (3vs3, 4k points per player)
was planning on bringing chaos space marines and renegades.
how are the chaotic apocalypse formations? is the last year's kharn formation any good?
>>44404242
Using raw paste formatting tends to reduce the chance of replies, a quick tidying makes it faster to read.
Tau Empire: Codex (2015) (Formation Detachment) (747pts)
Counterstrike Cadre (747pts)
Breacher Team w/ Devilfish (200pts) [EMP Grenades]
Shas'ui with Pulse Blaster
9x Fire Warrior with Pulse Blaster
TY7 Devilfish [2x MV1 Gun Drone, Burst Cannon]
Pathfinder Team w/ Devilfish (187pts)
5x Pathfinder with Pulse Carbine
2x Pathfinder with Rail Rifle
TY7 Devilfish [2x MV1 Gun Drone, Burst Cannon]
Strike Team w/ Devilfish (180pts)
Shas'ui with Pulse Rifle
9x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle
TY7 Devilfish [2x MV1 Gun Drone, Burst Cannon]
Strike Team w/ Devilfish (180pts)
Shas'ui with Pulse Rifle
9x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle
TY7 Devilfish [2x MV1 Gun Drone, Burst Cannon]
>>44404395
Since it's usually considered a dick move to use a flyer in <1000 points games, should a FMC be even worse?Unless I'm being baited, in that case kudos for not using the usual "Casual 500 points list with 3 Tau'nar" one
>>44404439
FMC can be shot down with massed las gun fire though?
>>44404411
also, what's the best way to kit out the endless horde formation from siege of vraks?
>>44404439
Yeah. FMC can start at the table and they have much greater LoS than flyers. All in all FMCs (unless you are Voidstar) are good and flyers are decent.
>>44404448
Takes 108 lasgun-shots to cause one wound in hivetyrant.
>>44404439
>Casual 500 points list with 3 Tau'nar
But its unreal!
Tau Empire: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) (750pts)
HQ (60pts)
Cadre Fireblade (60pts) [Markerlight, Photon Grenades, Pulse Rifle]
Troops (90pts)
Strike Team (45pts) [5x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle (45pts), Photon Grenades]
Strike Team (45pts) [5x Fire Warrior with Pulse Rifle (45pts), Photon Grenades]
Lord of War (600pts)
KX139 Ta'unar Supremacy Armour (600pts) [Barrier Shield Generator, Pulse Ordnance Multi-driver, 2x Tri-axis Ion Cannon, Vigilance Defence System]
>>44404504
How good is the Ta'unar anyway?
>>44404580
T9, 10 wounds, 2+/4++, sD large blasts.
>>44404580
All the firepower of a super heavy walker with the bullshit that is GC rules. It's fucking amazing at what it costs.
>>44404669
>>44404676
Can Kharn take it down? How many Autocannons?
I was thinking about getting started warhammer 40k what starter set should I buy?
>>44404751
Ultramarines.
>>44404758 wut?
>>44404746
Kharn might get a wound or two (armourbane aint shit against GC) then will get the verloving shit stomped out of him, a Ta'unar will beat 2 Gork/Morkanaughts 9/10 times purely because of stomp rules. And that's from starting in melee. And I believe it would be 60 hits from a autocannon, can't give an exact amount without BS of the unit carrying it
>>44404816
Disregard that shit, forgot about the armour save, 360 hits? That can't be right
Let's assume for fairness sake that the covenant receive a tech boost that gives them a fighting chance against the imperium.
How would the imperium react if they glassed a human planet?
>>44404395
>The universes Super organism and his two breeding-bitches go on an adventure.
just /d/ my shit up.
>>44404834
Probably glass like 20 of theirs, then 5 of their own for good measure, also anyone who came into contact with them would be mind scrubbed or killed just in case they picked up their gay religion.
>>44404830
>>44404816
Assume BS4 for autocannons. Also, doesn't Kharn have ID? Maybe Ahriman can take him out with some Remove-from-Game spell?
>>44404450
>no power armor
>large areas of bare skin shown
How does this faggot even survive in the 40k universe
He doesn't look like a spess muhreen
>>44404834
>Covenant don't have tech enough to have a fighting chance.
wat
>>44404856
he's a human not a space marine
>>44404830
It also fires s8 ap3 ignore cover apocalyptic barrages, 16 s5 ap tl shots and 6 s9 ap2/10 s8 ap1 melta shots.
>>44402068
>chink speak
HERESY
>>44404751
Betrayal at Calth is a solid pick if you want to go marines.
What is a good starting army?
>>44404851
GC can't be removed from play and neither are they killed by ID. They both just inflict D3 wounds.
>>44404887
Marines
>>44404851
Nah, only reference of ID on Kharn is that Force doesn't do shit to him because he's too metal. And with BS 4 I think it is 600 shots from a BS4 character with no relevent special rules. Well, 300 autocannon shots because they all shoot 2 times. THAT is how bullshit they are.Maths might be wrong, pls no bully
>>44404887
Spurs meens
>>44404858
have you seen the pre suit vader (argueablly one of the most marry sue characters in mainstream scifi) thread where the imperium wreck his shit?
If the most powerful force user in existence gets btfo why do you think ayy lmaos with cheap reverse engineered tech stand a chance.
>>44404856
This was vraks. He's one of the cultists being besieged by the death korps who sent wave after wave of bodies at them. That and he has a bolter.
I would like to do orks, how hard are they?
>>44404888
Yeah but apply enough of those and you might take it out a lot faster. 3 good D3 rolls and it's already down to 1 wound and Ahriman can fire 3 or 4 spells a turn. Nice trips, Khorne.
>>44404888
And the bullshit FW model they original guy was referencing has a rule that halves wounds from D attack Deathblow result.
>>44404911
Dead 'ard. Nah they're a simple army to play, but expect to get rekd more often than not until you know what you're doing.
>>44404913
Also remember you will never fight it in a vacuum, a smart player is going to target stuff that can easily threaten it.
Ok cool thanks, is there any good starter sets for them?
>>44404916
Shit, man, it's bs4 and have no jetpacks. It's pretty mediocre unit.
>>44404938
As someone that's seen one in action a few times, I can tell you, no, no it's not mediocre at all.
>>44404908
Interesting
Did they try sending grey knights?
i finally completed the skyhammer formation for the marines and started a tyranid army, a friend also gave me 3 tyranid warriors
>>44404953
You think its low-tier?
>>44404851
ID dosn't affect GC's
>>44404964
Ohh yeah. It escalated far past cultists. Alpha Legion, nurgle and berserkers got involved.
>>44404984
it does though, just multiplied into d3 wounds instead of removal.
Is there ever enough genestealers?
>>44404968
>a friend also gave me 3 tyranid warriors
Some friend...
>>44405088
haha, why? do they suck? there aren't many tyranid players at my local wargaming store so i haven't played against them and the ones that do have them, don't ever use them at all, necrons, tau and daemons is what i see most of the time
Hey guys, relarively new, could use some tips
My and my buddy started with dark vengeance, he got dark angels so I got csm. Only problem is he has expanded his army into ravenwing with a shit ton of bikers with samael, Bannerman etc. How do I even change my list to counter hit and run and stuff?
Any source for the updated book of this yet? I really want to see what Corsairs are like now as an army.
>>44405164
You picked the army that exists to get dunked on, sorry mate. That said. 2 Helldrakes.
>>44405135
they're s8 magnets
>>44405164
Heldrakes are your only hope my nigga.
>>44404847
>Lord Commander, this new form of xenos is quite advanced. They've glassed an Imperial world in a backwater sector. What are your order?
Engage their fleet with Fleet Group Primaris and have Fleet Group Secundus glass the rest of the sector.
>To prove a point, Lord Commander?
Yes. To prove to them that the entirety of a single sector is still expendable in the eyes of the Imperium.
>Ave Imperator.
Ave Imperator.
>>44404484
Only half that many multi-meltas tho
>>44405164
With that said, what army would you recommend? I feel like tau might be good, but not sure I like that aethetic
>>44405135
Only being T4 with a 4+ armor with a lot of AP3 being thrown around makes them shit. Plus they're expensive as all hell. Only time I would ever take them is in a formation.
>>44404907
I think a better comparison would be the fact that one space marine equivalent and some IG managed to take them out.
>>44405135
They aren't great because of instant death. A squad of three with a barbed strangler is solid tho. Cheap Synapse and opens up some nice formations.
>>44402068
It is barking Orc on top of the previous Doretto note that the trailer movie that has been destroyed can be seen
>>44403529
'Generic Hive Tyrant'
I mean you could have made it unique but instead you gave it the most generic warhead ever
How can you fix up a flying Hive Tyrant to have the correct number of arms?
I recall old 3rd ed Nids having a great converted one in the codex. I was about 12 at the time though so maybe I'm just remembering it better than it was.
I definitely know the modern Hive Tyrant has a much crappier head though, completely lacking the frill.
![Storet80nov%20(2)[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ptvZhZQ.jpg "Storet80nov%20(2)[1].jpg")
Couldn't see a painting thread
Any recommendations on what to use for highlighting like this?
Can't tell if its light grey or dark or bluish-gray or even two layers
>>44405446
Find the warhammertv video on how to paint sisters of battle armour. Same concept.
>>44405374
I think you meant: Meta
Generic would be: 4xscything talons, or bonesword+lash and a venom cannon/barbed strangler.
Is there anything else in the same sort of category as the The Imperial Infantryman's Handbook? No Codex Astartes or collection of the teachings of the Emperor?
>>44405730
There are a few more things like the primer I think but no Codex Astartes (which is supposed to be able to fill up a library) and no srs bsns literature about the imperial creed because nobody at GW has a theology degree
>>44405784
Damn, I really like the background books. I have the Primer and the Munitorum Manual but I haven't come across anything else.
>>44405200
Only the shitty photos still.
>>44405446
by being on that black it's hard to tell, i'm tempted to say a thinned purple or blue highlight then white on top
>>44403388
>>44403465
Figure out what you want to run first. Maybe you need a bunch of tankbustas, meganobs and battlewagons or a crapton of bikes and Deffkoptas
Boyz always come up cheap as hell on ebay so you are better off investing money into harder to find models you will need more.
Do not buy from GW directly, you can find the same product for 10-20% off if you look hard enough.
Does anyone else hate the Daemonkin? They could have just made a new CSM but no.
>>44405900
It's a quick fix to part of a problem, they wouldn't have been able to fix the main codex with the same effort, so I'm glad for a bit of marginally competitive CSM.
>>44405900new CSM dex will invalidate daemonkin :^)
>>44405917
>It's a quick fix to part of a problem
The problem being the new Bloodthirster models weren't being sold to 40k fans?
>>44405900
yes and no. khorne in 40k really did need a buff and new bloodthrister/skarbrand. i wish they had rules for those new models and they even have round bases but i digress.
it wasn't likely for chaos to get an update but some attention is better then none. it also puts daemonkind/csm/daemon in a weird spot since the next update will either merge a lot or eliminate a faction.
>>44405900
I'm at the point where I genuinely don't give a fuck anymore.
WHFB is gone, 40k has been going in a direction that doesn't do anything for me for a few years now and there are more and more other companies that have minis that are just as good or better than gw. Not to mention the rules.
I really only care about the models these days.No that doesn't mean I spent the ridiculous 'premium prices' on a single plastic model they are asking.
>>44405941
gimped CSM. Now khorne fanboys (the vast majority of CSM players I know) have a more competitive codex with some fluffy rules (sorely lacking in main book).
>>44405900
You CSM players complain a lot
>>44405970
They're justified t b h
Having one of the shittiest codexes does that
>>44405970
They have more to complain about then most, and have a big enough player base to be actually heard.
>>44401576
And the time to paint more than none of it
>>44405970
40kg threads have their complaints boil down to 1/6 tyranid, 2/6 CSM and 3/6 Orks. I would consider SoB but since GW doesn't I wont either.
>>44406065
3/6 Orks? Pretty sure it's 3/6 Chaos, even though they have a good FW book and two decent supplements
Doesn't help they're also the ones saying they'll never get a new codex and it is going to be horrible for all eternity
>>44405969
Seriously, does anybody actually play Slaanesh CSM?
>>44406065
>Blood Angels are so forgotten that we don't even rank
>>44406119
I know a guy who likes the sound weaponry way too much, but he's a Khorne guy at heart.
>>44406131
Only wankers complain about Bangles
>>44406134
THIS QUIET OFFENDS SLAANESH
>>44406115
In the winter months I definitely see more Orks but I agree they aren't as gloomy as Chaos.
I have never meant a WAAC Ork player but I have seen CSM's that really try to be.
>>44406144
>Some bangle players aren't using the Codex: Space Marine
>>44406152
It would be really hard to WAAC with Orks lol
Saw a "tournament" list on Tabletop Tactics, the guy allied Legion of the Dammed lol
>>44405920
>new Chaos dex
Hahahaha good one..
I think the Defiler is sexy
I want to build a small chaos force around it
However i have heard it blows goats and middle eastern men
Is there any truth to this?
>>44406144
Bangles don't really have too much to complain about. They have an okay codex, good models, and they get stuff from Imperial Armour II (I think). All they really need are some buffs to Scouts and Dreds, some formations, and access to Centurions.
>>44406238
CSM suck as a whole, and the Defiler is no exception.
Avoid playing and collecting CSM like the plague, or you are gonna regret itlike me
>>44406238
The Defiler's rules themselves are okay, it's just about 50 points too expensive.
>>44406251
>>44406269
What would be an example of an effective CSM list at 1000 points? Daemons?
>>44406238
Compare it to his friend, the soul grinder. In the Daemonkin codex their pages are literally across from each other , and GW hasn't realized why the Defiler is utter and absolute shit.
>It's more expensive than the SG
>It has worse front armour (av12 vs av13)
>Doesn't get sweet Daemon buffs (shrouded, +3" run etc.)
>Can only snap shoot its other weapons if you use the battle cannon
>literally no advantage over the soul grinder
>>44406277
You would be better off with Daemons, as you see in this thread there CSM is in a terrible place.
(as anyone who has lurked any of these threads over the last 2-3 years would know)
Daemons are alright and pretty fun if you are cool with psykers and randomness.
>>44406207
>believing rumormongrelsBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>44406277
Sorcerer, lvl 3, Spell Familiar, Bike, Force Axe - 145
10 Cultists - 50
10 Cultists - 50
5 Spawn, MoN - 180
Heldrake - 170
2 Oblits, MoN - 152
2 Oblits, MoN - 152
Bunker, Comms Relay, Escape Hatch - 100
Bunker is to reliably bring in your drake and oblits from reserve through the comms, and you can slingshot some cultists up the board with the hatch for late-game objective grabbing. Should be 999 points if I remember points right from the top of my head.
>>44406353
1k CSM.
1 Power armour.
>>44406371
Well yeah, every power armour model except for sorcerers are utter shit.
>>44403022
AoS a shit. Gork and Mork individually are supposed to be as powerful as Khorne and the Emperor.
>>44406277
There aren't any. Chaos are that bad. Before the need you could have tried a triple Heldrake list but even they aren't worth their points these days
I'm planning on making a small daemon "army" for one of my Ork Weirdboyz to summon as a "korruption".
Nurgle or Slaanesh?
>>44406516
i wouldn't suggest doing malefic if you're not daemons. the powers are expensive and you're likely to peril easily. consider this, you can have 2 lv2 orks with +2 from nearby orks +d6 for a total of 6-12 warp charges. summoning, incurision, and possession needs at least 5 dice to get the spell off.
i would go khorne since they mix well with orks and they're simple. slaanesh is tricky or rather they're not as straight forward considering powers and psychic stuff.
>>44406516
Green is best.
>>44406588
I'm aware it's incredibly bad gameplay wise, it's for fun fluffy games. Khorne is pretty dull to me so I won't be using them
>>44406749
I'm with >>44406741
Green is best.
>>44406741
>>44406767
It's for fun fluff, I have 12k points of Orks. I'm well aware Green is Best
>>44406749
Some Orks turn to Nurgle, or have done in the past.
You could even convert pic related for plaguebearer-orks
>>44406371
He asked for an 'effective' list m8. that's just how it is
>>44406826
Green can also mean Nurgle, clever like that see?
>>44406749
well, what do you want the daemons to do then?
>>44406834
That picture is kinda what inspired me, as well as Ghuldan
>>44406883
Terrify, as they should :)
>>44406944
That's gonna be hard since Orks, Tau and Ig are pretty much the only ones that recognize fear, the rest just shrug and shoot them.
>>44407084
>>44406944
Fear really need a fucking buff, it's a really cool mechanics/vibe but what's the point when only like 3 armies out of like 15 give a shit.
>>44407084
>>44407177
So if I did do this would it be better to just ally Nurgle daemons or attempt summoning them?
>>44406489
Daemons are usable at 1850 if you run Princes and Heralds and pink horrors. Summon tons of stuff and hope you roll lucky.
CSM are pretty much limited to Cultists, Spawn, generic HQ's, and Heldrakes as the best options. Which isnt very competitive since it drops off hard after these units. And neither army has formations.
>>44407177
Pinning is in the same boat as well. Suppressive fire to lock down a unit and make them less of a threat shouldn't just be shrugged off. Taking cover when getting shot at should be common sense no matter how not-afraid of bullets you are.
>>44407294
Precisely why I hate Pulse Carbines and always opt for Rifles or any other weapon. Short range and a borderline useless gimmick. Anyone susceptible to pinning is also usually easy to wipe out completely.
So tau newfag here. I have a box of pathfinders,Fire warriors, 3 XV-8s i got for christmas and a commander coming in mail in a few days. Whats the best way to expand from here. Im thinking another FW+a riptide. Also whats the best usage for the drones included. I have 2 shield drones,3 markerlights,1 gun drone and 4 unbuilt ones.
>>44404411
how are you dealing with being your team's weakest link?
>>44406336
Of the two people that said the CSM codex is not getting a rewrite in 2016, one has 100% accuracy over 44 contributions. The other guy is reliable iirc but I dont really know anything about his accuracy.
100% accuracy over 44 infos is pretty credible. Not claiming its set in stone, bug itooks like theres a very good chance CSM is looking at another year+ of their 6th edition codex.
>>44407294
Unless you are spess muhreens and have super pinning formation, where you pin or double pin people though immunities and all.
>>44407354
the other two play tyranids and orks....
>>44407177
>oh shit i'm about to get eaten by daemons!
>oh emperor, how the fuck do i use this combat knife?!
>>44406115
>good FW book
IA 13 is good for 1 unit. The Fire Raptor. Its a must take for CSM players. The rest of the book ranges from ok to terrible.
>two decent supplements
Where in the current meta would you say those two supplements rank? competitive? mid-pack? garbage tier?
CSM, Orks, Blood Angels, SoB, etc. should be frustrated, I would be too.
>>44407370
Jesus dood you guys lose a bet...
>Looking at all these christmas gifts
>mfw i exclusively got clothes save for two horus heresy harcovemy cousins saved this christmas holy shit i was feeling a tantrum coming on and i would not be able to live down the embarassment of going kid-mode on christmas eve
>>44407475
we are against a lot of knights, space marines and some guard/eldar
on the bright side we have some forge world tyranid stuff, 3 stompas and me bringing lot of shooty stuff plus a baneblade and a stormlord
>>44406119
I do. They held up pretty well. Blastmasters counter Scatbikes, Grav-bikes, and Crisis Suits well enough and my Daemonette allies can tear up Riptides and Wraithknights in CC. Its not super competitive, but I can at least challenge some top armies (except Necrons) and I wipe the floor with low-tier armies like Orks or Dark Eldar.
>>44407492
>on the bright side we have some forge world tyranid stuff, 3 stompas
Gimping yourselves further I see. Yous really do not want to win
>>44407492
It sounds like fun but I wouldn't get your hopes up and ignore >>44407627
You should definitely use the "make your own Stompa" charts, 800pts for that thing is obscene
>>44403529
>Stupid sexy hive tyrant...
>>44407693
In fairness, barring the Malanthrope, the FW Nids are all awful and the Stompa isn't much better
>>44404411
Bring the endless ranks formation. Max out your bodies and meltaguns, with militia training. Take Nurgle covenant for FNP so you're harder to bolter to death, and laugh as you smash thousands of models into his side. Alternatively take the Nurgle artillery FOC and cover the board in dangerous terrain with Basilisks.
>>44407347
Don't get ahead of yourself. You really need at least 3 more XV8s, more if you want. With the new max squad size at 9 you can't have too many. Don't buy a Riptide until you can support him properly.
Build more gun drones. Those are the meat and potatoes of drones.
Tau REALLY don't need FW unless you just really want to plop down that much money.
Quick while the loyalists are away post chaos. Here's my khorne daemons.
>>44408008
>>44407347
Er sorry. FW usually means Forge World around here.
More Fire Warriors are never bad.
>>44407347
Don't DONT take fw's. They're one of the shittiest and expensive units in codex. Buy more xv8's and few missilesides. For drones you can take drone network from mont'ka
>>44408131
>fire warriors are terrible
>>44408161
Who the fuck need 9pts GEQ unit with s5 weapons, when you can take glorious stormsurge with cluster pods?
>>44408161
Well, five fire warriors is shit, and two units of 12 encourages gunlining, the most annoying way to play Tau.
>>44408237
>Glorious
>Shitsurge
Grow some fucking taste kid.
>>44408266
Fuck taste. Its ugly like fire warriors. But at least its fucking effective for its price.
>>44408290
>I am the WAAC Tau bla bla bla
And this is why I need to explain myself before every pickup game. Le sigh.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BDyvhpT.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
A question to Sister players: did you ever try a Sister horde army, 20-girl blobs with priests marching down the table ? Found a guy that will cast their infantry for cheap so if I limited myself to only buying 3 Exorcists as far as vehicles go I could get one for very little cash.
>>44408335
I'm not. But I don't see any reason to take fire warriors. They're shit fluff-wise. They're shit rule-wise. And they're fucking ugly.
Anyone who have bought from raging heroes?
The models look really great, are they suitable for 40k? They seem to be a bit pricey, but still cheaper than GW.
>>44408246
all tau do is shoot, as far as i've seen they can't do anything but gunline. i wouldn't mind a unit like that in daemons since 9/10s of the shooting is a power instead of just a gun. well we had one but pink horrors got psychic powers now they're for warp charges and summoning
>>44408392
I actually like the look of them a lot.
Their new kits are fucking sexy. Not a Tau player though.
>>44408442
Tau gunline is the least effective way to play them. Effective play has some units holes up in the back and the mobile bits hoping cover and taking objectives while picking off priority targets.
>>44408237
They aren't GEQ
They are FEQ
>>44408459
They're still expensive tax/meatshield unit without any good weapons, special rules and even stats.
>>44408442
There's a difference between being an all shooting codex, and castling up on the spot to roll an eternal shooting phase.
As for Fire Warriors, they look great. The Devilfish currently isn't really good enough to play them as mobile as they should be without a ton of dead points, but asthetics aren't an issue.
>>44407331
I still prefer carbines, but that's mostly a holdover from when rapid fire weapons needed to be stationary to be most effective.
>>44408493
Least effective and most infuriating. At least getting tabled by riptide and other suit spam happens with style instead of sitting through 45 minutes of shooting dice, taking your turn in half that time, then another 45 minutes of shooting.
You win against Tau gunline every time, but you don't have fun doing it.
>>44408541
It really annoys me that they changed Rapid Fire without altering the stats of other guns meant to be an alternative to rapid fire weapons.
Would anyone care to CC my IG list? Or would it be ignored here?
>>44408536
guess i'll have to find more tau players to fight.
>>44408519
They've got supporting fire, that's a special rule.
Pulse rifles beat Lasguns too.
>>44408575
I agree. My friend ran gunline Tau once and nearly crushed me. Now I know how to beat it, and can do so relatively easily (Tau gunlines are actually piss easy when you know what to do) but fuck me the game is so damn boring.
>>44408623
possibly, if a list is ignored it's either fine or no one online right now plays that army
>>44408623
Proper formatting will help.
If you're just gonna paste from battlescribe or worse, dump a PDF, don't hold your breath.
+ No Force Org Slot +
Primaris Psyker [Force Staff, Psyker Mastery Level 2]
+ HQ +
Lord Commissar [Flak Armour, HoC: The Blade of Conquest, HoC: The Deathmask of Ollanius, HoC: The Emperor’s Benediction]
Tank Commander
Command Punisher [2x Multi-meltas, Knight Commander Pask, Lascannon, Warlord]
Executioner [2x Plasma Cannons, Lascannon]
+ Elites +
Militarum Tempestus Platoon
Militarum Tempestus Command Squad [4x Tempestus Scion w/ Meltagun]
Taurox Prime [Taurox Battle Cannon, Twin-linked Hot-shot Volley Gun]
Tempestor Prime [Close Combat Weapon, Hot-shot Laspistol, Orders]
Militarum Tempestus Scions [4x Tempestus Scion]
Taurox Prime [Taurox Battle Cannon, Twin-linked Autocannon]
Tempestor [Close Combat Weapon, Hot-shot Laspistol]
+ Troops +
Veterans [Grenadiers, 7x Veteran w/ Lasgun, 2x Veteran w/ Plasma Gun]
Chimera [Heavy Bolter, Multi-laser]
Veteran Sergeant [Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol]
Veterans [Grenadiers, 7x Veteran w/ Lasgun, 2x Veteran w/ Meltagun]
Chimera [Heavy Bolter, Multi-laser]
Veteran Sergeant [Close Combat Weapon, Laspistol]
+ Heavy Support +
Leman Russ Squadron
Demolisher [2x Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter]
Leman Russ Squadron
Battle Tank [2x Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter]
Leman Russ Squadron
Battle Tank [2x Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolter]
Is this the proper way to format? I don't post lists often.
>>44408396
The models are pretty good.
I have a friend who bought the orc model and converted him into Ghazghkull.
I don't know why anyone would buy the Ta'unar Supremacy Armour, the model isn't that great and you're never going to see it used because no one in their right mind would play against it.
>>44408632
Wow, I can overwatch! Skitarii rangers can destroy any vehicle with base weapons, necron warriors can glance to death any vehicle and have rp, dire avengers are fast and have blade storm rule. And they're all bs4. BUT. I. CAN. OVERWATCH WITH FEW SQUADS. WOW
>>44405164
My friend and I also split the DA set and I took the DA which eventually became my Ravenwing army.
He switched to KDK because he likes chaos still but CSM a shit.
He choose to go heavy in the gorepack and heldrake area. (1 heldrak at 1k, 2 at 1500, 3 at 1850)
It is fun to play against him since we are both fairly mobile and bike oriented. His flesh hounds tarpit like no other but lolHit&Run
Heldrakes certainly give me the biggest problem.
And the cannonfiend I can never remember the actual name of. But he has dropped it by 1850 in exchange for the other heldrake.
