How much should NPCs comment on characters dressing provocatively?
Confusing them with prostitutes.
>>44377480
Trying to hire them as prostitutes.
>>44377452
Asking them if they need a new Daddy who will treat them right.Yuh know what I'm saiyan
>>44377452
I'd say it depends on how people are normally dressed in the setting and how the local culture views provocative dress.
If you don't feel like thinking a bit about the cultural mores of the setting of your campaign, just go with the attitudes of whatever IRL culture it most resembles. Or just go with the modern attitudes of your own culture to keep things simple and (assuming you live in the West) lighthearted.
Entirely depends on the tone and themes of the game.
>caring what your PCs look like
I bet you give them names and families too
>>44377480
>>44377492
Asking if the NPC's wish to hire them as prostitutes.
"Have they escaped from some Harem?"
>>44377452
The amount needed to make the game enjoyable for everyone?
>>44377543
What if it's a generic fantasy game?
>>44377558
source
>>44378276
Ask six people for a definition of 'generic fantasy' and you'll get seven different answers.
>>44378318
Humans, elves, swords, dragons, kings, princesses, wizards, paladins.
>>44377452
minimally unless it adds to the game. a priest may ask if the character wants a blanket. a selfish rogue may make unwanted advances. A prudish scholar may comment on how they never wore that in his day and so on. only have npcs they deal with comment on it, not just passerbys. how often do you talk to strangers about their clothing?
>>44378296
Looks like Agent Aika to me.
>>44377452
>How much should NPCs comment on characters dressing provocatively?
Depends on setting.
No, really.
>>44378546
There's such a thing as universal common decency in every setting.
>>44378559
>There's such a thing as universal common decency in every setting.
Yes, but that goes without saying and is therefore not worthy of further discussion.
I play WHFRP 2E, so probably a mixture of rape, assault, and throwing caca at them, in any given order or combination.
>>44378559
>naked man with penis sheath
>>44378595
>the setting is FATAL
>no one cares
>>44378559
>>44378574
Except there isn't? It's perfectly possible and potentially interesting to imagine settings with vastly different standards of 'common decency'. Heck, even looking at contemporary Earth, there are different cultures with such vastly different standards your entire point falls flat.
Try to have them respond like normal people if the game has a sincere tone. Drunks or thirsty dudes might hit on some chick. If it's late at night or the wrong part of town, have people mistaken for whites. If it's a setting that has openly gay people , then gay dudes could ask ripped shirtless barbarians if they have permits to be waving weapons around in town like that. Old people could be scandalized. Dudes with no game can do catcalls. Religious prudes could chastise people.
Adjust things to climate too. Maybe your desert region expects skimpy clothes or shirtless dudes to make the heat bearable
If the game has room for jokes then play to your audience's humor
>>44378704
>If it's late at night or the wrong part of town, have people mistaken for whites.
I'm not sure if you meant wights or if this is some hilarious "only white people walk around naked" comment.
>>44377452
Depends on setting, NPC's values, and how provocatively
>>44377480
Fucking them as prostitutes.
>>44378704
>Maybe your desert region expects skimpy clothes or shirtless dudes to make the heat bearable
>going underdressed in a desert
Dude trust me, that shit is a bad idea. Yeah it's hot during the day, but it's cold during the night -- temperature can drop fucking 50 degrees after sunset. Plus there's sand, if it's a sand desert. It gets everywhere, stings, and oh sweet Jesus you do not want to get caught in a sandstorm if you have any exposed skin. The best thing to wear is loose, flowing, layered clothes.
I mean, pseudo-Egypt would be an exception but only because most of it lies along a fuckhuge marshy river valley.
>>44377632
r/ing her graduation photo
>>44378704
>>44379318
And then there's the fact that prancing around in skimpy gear isn't a smart idea. Even wearing strapless whore-garments in temperate Italy in summer between midday and 3 pm can result in pretty harsh sunburns, let alone what happens when you prance around in whore-garments in the fucking desert, where 40 degrees celcius in the shade is no exception.
There's a reason why kebabs wear the clothes they wear: they're light material that allows air to pass through, yet it covers them against the harmful rays of the sun.
>>44379617
To be fair, you can just spend 2 power points and get immunity to hot and cold climate effects.
We're talking about Mutants and Masterminds, right?
>>44378704
>desert
Replace with tropical paradise.
Kill some goblins inland then go to the beach, relax , go fishing in the crystal clear water, enjoy some sex on the beaches (both kinds). Life is good.
>>44379694
Eh, most settings have low level abilities that make such things trivial, so it doesn't matter too much, any adventurer with a few levels under their belt shouldn't have to worry too much about climate
>>44379694
>We're talking about Mutants and Masterminds, right?
No, but it's about as easy for PCs to go around practically nude in most other systems too
>>44379773
That actually sounds pretty fun
>>44378559
>>44378687
Exactly. There are tribes in Africa where women generally go topless. Victorian women had to cover their ankles lest the sight of their bare skin excite men into a frenzy.
Universal common decency is a myth.
>>44379773
The literal variant of that can be a little tricky. Unless you're careful, sand can end up in all sorts of intensely unpleasant places.
>>44380650
>Brits
>Decent
>Laughing_Frenchmen_in_various_states_of_undress_picknicking.painting
>>44378727
probably a phone autocorrect for someone who doesn't have whores in their dictionary.
>>44377452
Depends on the setting
>>44377452
"Harlots and whores"
>>44381110
>Frenchmen
>commenting on anyone's decency
>>44377452
>How much should NPCs comment on characters dressing provocatively?
They don't have to. Just telling the player that they are drawing a lot of stares from a lot of people should get the point across.
>>44377452
Praising them, give them the once-over, if they're high-Charisma. It's bizarre, but female PCs absolutely love, love it when they're told they're attractive. Don't make outright lewd or lecherous comments, just let them know that male NPCs find them amazing hot.
Seriously, I've been a DM for ten years and married for three. Women love knowing that they're attractive.
>>44379617
You know the Bedouin aren't the beginning and end of people that live in hot climates, right? African bushfolk get around in very little in some very fucking hot climates.
>>44385521
Skin as dark as theirs gets rarely burns, and is highly insusceptible to things like skin cancer. Some adaptations, like that one, is pure genetics and evolution. Other adaptations are cultural, like lighter-skinned people wearing loose robes. If it's hot AND humid, unless your skin tone is ultra-white, bare = better, which is why cultures native to tropical areas often have little or no nudity taboos.
As far as the OP's question goes: The correct answer is to just have people react based on context. If they're in a modest society, out in the cold, or otherwise somewhere nudity or scanty dress would be distinctly out of place, just have people react as such.
If the player's actually trying to represent some kind of cultural thing that's genuinely a part of the setting and NOT just a horndog, let 'em roleplay it out.
>>44378559
Glorious James White scifi universe where humanity is the only race with a nudity taboo.
>>44378318
Bullshit. Generic fantasy pretty much exclusively means the typical medieval-esque western european setting. You know, the Tolkein ripoff genre.
>>44377480
>>44377492
>>44377548
>NPC tries to hire nearly naked PC as a prostitute
>A few diplomacy rolls later and PC has hired NPC as their whore
>>44377632
These are still cringe after all these years
>>44384137
i suppose that works.
>>44386657
how the hell does she get the leaf at the front of the headband to stick forward like that.
>>44377452
Mostly long stares, but also catcalls if they aren't walking next to the 20+ STR barbarian.
>>44387775
Is that a 20+ STR Barbarian?
>>44387804
He is the one getting catcalled, this is the barbarian.
>>44387830
So who does the bread buttering?
>>44377452
As everyone's saying, it depends on the setting, but I'll try quantify it a bit more.
First, environment. Social taboos about clothing are generally rooted in the practical considerations of the region, where people get used to a certain amount of dress because it makes sense and then less clothes than that are considered scandalous. So for example in arab cultures where people started wearing lots of clothes because it kept the sun off, they got used to lots of clothes as the norm. Similar for victorian england where you wanted lots of clothes because of the rain.
This isn't totally universal, though. The ancient celts lived in cold rainy places too, and didn't have such big deals about being naked.
Religion also plays a big part; a religion that tells its followers to eschew this life to work towards a good afterlife will likely promote against nudity on grounds of chastity or injunction against vanity or so on. This also links to things like hygiene; a reasonably solid argument is made that it was christian priests and/or monks that eliminated regular/public bathing during the worser parts of the medieval period, whereas pagan societies gave people no reason to not care about looking/smelling good.
In places where it's practical, as well, skimpy clothing stands. In jungles and rain forests, in particular, the presence of shade combined with high heat and humidity, and that untreated cloth decays swiftly, means that almost-nudity is entirely the norm.
Basically, in a setting where people care about provocative dress, people will comment. In a setting where they don't, they won't. It also depends on social rank: in an oppressive enough system the lower orders will have learned not to pass comment on their betters.
This all assumes a low-magic setting, of course. In a high-magic setting, people will probably not make comments about the strange dress or behavior of people carrying around magical items or who are obviously wizards.
>>44377452
Why would this ever come up? I've never had a game where players spent a lot of time describing their character's dress, and when they do describe it it's never to say "Oh yeah, and just imagine they're dressed like an anime"
That's basically the single most irrelevant thing in a non-visual medium. It doesn't matter at all.
In other words, the only reason this thread exists is to post scantily clad anime girls and/or traps and to shitpost. In which case, could we ditch the pretense and just focus on the first?
>>44387830
Man, that is like...male amazon.
>>44388275
>my player are rollplayers
>this means that all players are rollplayers
>>44388499
That's my point, though. Your character's style of dress is probably the least important thing to *role*playing. It's solely visual and superficial. The core, important parts of a character lie in history, personality, motivations, desires, experiences, beliefs - clothes are trivial surface elements, useful for visual flair and characterization. Which is fairly unimportant (though not actually pointless) when you're just *describing* what you look like, and nobody at the table can actually see it.
>>44387146
Really? The art has improved quite a bit, and the humor is not far from what you'd find in other webcomics.
I once asked my group "so, what are you guys wearing?" No one could give a concrete answer. I was the only one who knew what I looked like.
While other characters went looking for magical items, I was buying clothing of the appropriate colors based on what was popular in the cities we were going to so that I wouldn't stand out.
>>44387146
I'm still impressed at the guy for sticking with it in the face of no talent or positive feedback.
>>44388631
>Your character's style of dress is probably the least important thing to *role*playing. It's solely visual and superficial.
The way your character presents themselves to the world is one of the most important things. Especially if it's completely at odds with the setting or practical common sense considerations.
>>44389069
That is actually a good idea, assuming the DM lets the player be able to keep up in terms of experience from the roleplay, and possibly a few minor bonuses like a bonus to a Hide check trying to blend into a crowd because you are dressed like locals instead of being easier to pick out of a crowd than a dragon among peasants.
>>44389222
We were becoming at odds with some of the governments. Additionally, I feel it would be a bit easier to get information from some locals if you don't look like you're about to fuck shit up.
I'd like to run a game where the players are rebels or otherwise hunted by the governing body of the area they're in to encourage subtlety and discretion.
>>44389267
I'd play that, sounds like fun. Your group trying to blend in as they are hunted down, trying to keep low, avoiding anybody who can recognize their faces and rat them out to the guards, always wary that the all-too-friendly guy handing out information to you is going to set you up...
>>44389011
>>44389011
the only part I don't agree with is the first bit. I've found that the artist's skill has come and gone. Usually they get bored/busy/lazy/writersblock/whatever for a few months, and by the time they get back their art skills have degraded significantly, and it takes a few comics before they get back into the swing of things.
But for the latter half, I agree. Considering most tabletop/fantasy related webcomics are terrible, text walls, or amalgamations of the two, this is kind of just a fun little romp by the author.
It went in a direction that I'm not 100% behind, but it's not like I'm paying them. I wish a little more time was spent critiquing /tg/ as a community, or it took more looks into the various games that we play from a laymans' perspective.
>>44387108
>Go out looking to hire someone for sex, you've got the coin for a night and you're pretty excited.
>"No, I'M going to hire YOU."
>"Uh... ok?"
>now you get paid for sex by the attractive person you were gonna hire
>>44389803
>YFW they go full magical realm on your ass
>>44389071
Only a fool would take feedback from 4chan.
I can't get anyone else in the group to even describe what their character looks like. When I'm playing and try to describe what my character looks like everyone stares at me until I stop speaking. I don't even know the other character's names because no one uses them...
>>44392880
Get A better group
>>44392880
Normally I'd say your group sounds profoundly shitty. But really, not even bothering to use character names is a callsign of people who are only there for hack&slash loot and monsters.
Good for them if they enjoy that sort of crap. But if you on the other hand are there to get invested in the characters and actually roleplay in the roleplaying game, then you're just wasting your time and should find another group.
>>44393147
I've been kicked from every other group in the area. I've often wondered if I truly am That Guy
>>44395084
Why were you kicked all those times?
>>44395084
Acknowledging that you might be is the first step to stopping it.
>>44395129
Masturbating at the game table.
>>44377480
>Confusing
>>44395143
Probably not the same guy, probably just a troll, but either way you are horrible and you should feel horrible.
>>44395183
There was one time I legit played a Saloon Girl. Built her as a rogue/bard hybrid. Was pretty enjoyable, with her being much more social than I am.
Pic related.
>>44387775
What if she is 18 STR with even more CHA?
>>44395221
I went sorceress.
CHA as casting is great.
>>44378559
>in every setting.
>>44386657
it's a magical place....
>>44395430
The setting was a low-magic fantasy advanced to wild west era.
>>44380651
Do it standing.
>>44395717
How low?I'd go for a fit fighter.
>>44395923
Magic was a dying art, and a magic user would be lucky if he met another mage that wasn't his teacher.Other players included a marshal, a rich brat, and an old army surgeon.
>>44395982
Did the rich brat and the prostitute fuck?
>>44396020
He tried, she decided that she was too classy for him. (He really was a brat, and had a bad habit of drinking too much and wrecking the establishments he went to.)
"Put some damn clothes on!"
>>44387273
I can't quite tell, but I think those are ferns.
And ferns hold their shape pretty well.
>>44395129
Mostly involves me calling the GM a dick. Also masturbating at the table.
The last time I got kicked one of the other players sent me 50+ texts telling me that people like me are the reason his DM was a dick. I told him I couldn't talk because I had to make soup. Granted, he nerfed monks and rogues in pathfinder because "muh realism "
>>44377452
They should be imprisoned for breaking public decency laws.
>>44387985
makes sense
>>44397887
Was it good soup?
>>44395661
Don't worry anon, I got the reference.
>>44377452
I have everyone imply they are a bard's leavings seeking attention again.
>>44398512
It was alright, I was just trying to think of the most dismissive way to tell him to bugger off.
>>44389069
i'm reminded of a roleplaying podcast i once listened to where the GM asked the player "ok so what is your character wearing" and got a pissed off 20 minute rant about "You're only asking me that because i'm a girl! Oh my god!"
She was playing a bard at a dukes dinner party.
>>44400426
If he got super into it or anything it would be a big deal, but just "what are you wearing" is nothing.
>>44400466
It was more "okay, so this is a fancy noble's dinner party, so i gotta ask, what is your character wearing?"
>>44378559
>There's such a thing as universal common decency in every setting.
No there is not.
>>44400483
I'd probably just assume something fancy. Tho my game is fairly specific about rune magic so we go into detail about the practicality and details of that.
Baring the rune magic or similar I wouldn't really give a shit.
>>44400026
>bugger off
I seriously hope you're British if you say this.
>>44398679
I did not
>>44398011
That wouldn't stop them
