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>>44314425
>>44329938
A daily reminder to always bully your Healer/Dragon/companions etc etc.
>>44329957
Bullying is for the weak willed. The ones who don't bully but instead give kindness to others freely are the true enlightened ones.
Let's say I want to go with the theme of ultimate Pirate gang with just one rule in my Jumpchain:
>always Drop-In, for everyone in the party, always
where would I start? obviously after Pokemon.
>>44329938
>Regalia
You just HAD to remind me, didn't you?
>>44330010
Picture of THAT guy doesn't help your case.
>>44330025
Well, the obvious option would be a marine jump - One Piece, Uncharted Waters, Carribean or CATastrophe if you stretch a bit.
>>44330043
>Picture of THAT guy doesn't help your case.
Hey, he's the only buddha I have in my picture gallery. Didn't have much choice.
>>44330043
Alright, time to figure out what Pokemon a pirate would start with that isn't a fucking flying type.
>>44330128
Sharpedo.
>>44330128
Sharpedo.
>>44330128
sharkpedo, Carrrvana, mudkip with an eye patch.
>>44330128
Squirtle, obviously.
Dragonaire, if you're not feeling sure of yourself.
>>44330145
>>44330147
>literally one post between these two
>>44330145
>>44330147
okay, let me rephrase that:
a pokemon that goes with a pirate and is LAND BASED
>>44330075
How is that the only Buddha you have on hand, you need best Buddha.
>>44330128
Pachirisu. I had one once, when I went through one of the pokeymans games. Fucking vicious little bastard rapidly became my star player because it mugged the fuck out of everyone. I came through a helluva lot of fights with that thing carrying a rare candy it didn't start with.
>>44330194
Squirtle, I say!
Alright, here's a daily reminder.
Daily reminder that cloning someone who's power or such is all through hard work instead of natural will just give you their body BEFORE training unless their fuckin DNA or such changed because of it or metaphysical bullshit
>>44330194
Infernape/Ambipom/some other monkey, Chatot, Blastoise(READY THE CANNONS), Meowth, Octillary, Probopass(compass), Gallade.
Now for the sillies. ARRRseus, GARRRchomp, TyranitARRR, MagmortARRR, DunspARRRce and WARRRtortle.
>>44330194
Wartortle
>>44330194
Pirates are water-type you fuck.
>>44329957
But I am the healer!
>>44330256
Unless you are actually decent at science.
>>44330283
Then practice self-loathing and bully yourself.
>>44330194
Porygon Z you fuggin land potato
>>44330283
Then prepare to be bullied.
>>44330282
They spend most of their time on a ship/on islands
>>44330302
>most of their time on a ship
And you know what they do on those ships? Pillage other ships.
You know what Pokémon can tear through ships easily?
Motha. Fuckin. Sharpedo.
>>44330194
I don't know the pokedex by heart, but I'd take a cat of some sort on my pirate ship, because FUCK RATS IN MY FUCKING FOOD
>>44330290
Alright, here's a question.
HOw the fuck does taking DNA of a person who trained hard to get a six pack make it so that the clone has a sixpack too, unless you change the DNA or development of body through bullshit?
Is there a jump with computers that can be mentally controlled by anyone with a mind? Like technopathy but the computer is the thing letting you do it.
>>44330295
Got that covered.
>>44330347
I'm fairly certain that most settings where people can become ridiculously powerful through training follow Lamarkian rules of evolution.
>>44330351
Light of Terra had a big computer thing you sit in to control the entire ship single handed, it's in the Enginseer track.
>>44330246
Don't forget that Pachirisu basically won the PWC 2014. Granted it was mostly because all the other viable Follow Me pokemon were either banned or so overused that everyone had hard counters for them, but still, that's got to count for something?
>>44330367
ONLY IF YOU GOT SPECIAL GENETICS OR IT DEFINITELY WORKS THAT WAY, AS IN IT WAS SHOWN IN GAME OR ANIME THAT IT WORKS THAT WAY.
Most settings that do evil dopplenganger have it be a twin or made through magic or such
>>44330416
I'm just making a joke on how it's usually portrayed man, that's all. Chill. Most settings that do that aren't written by people with enough understanding of genetics to even say "oh, yeah, it's Lamarkian".
>>44330395
Would things like that be able to be found in the regular 40k jump or is it a one off super rare archeotech computer interface?
I went with a different companion but I'm willing to put in the hard work finding and reverse engineering it if I can do so.
>>44330341
best cat pokemon here
>>44330416
Chill out dude, most writers don't into genetics to even begin with.
>>44330194
Goodra. Be a slime dragon!
>>44330457
>A mongoose
>Cat
Meowth is the best cat.
>>44330457
That's a mongoose.
>>44330482
did they ever explain why Meowth was able to talk like a human? like, WHY he was able to learn it, I know he taught himself.
So am I the only guy who doesn't plan to pod Saitama or take him in any way?
I plan to take Boros. Save him. Most of his stuff seemed to be more natural than training, and so I could just take his soul and clone his body. Alternatively, help him regenerate and just store his body in cold storage or something, since without a mind or soul it doesn't count as living so it should fit in warehouse.
I liked Boros, he had nice design in anime and manga, he is essentially... like most Jumpers. in terms of goals and personality and what he did on the way(conquering universe)
>>44330452
Pretty sure all the upgrades are one offs.
>>44330504
I think they did in the older episodes like around kanto to johto I think.
>>44330492
>>44330482
i disagree
>>44330482
>>44330492
>Zangoose, the Cat Ferret Pokémon. Zangoose usually walks on all fours, but stands on its hind legs when angry. It's very quick and can easily dodge most enemy attacks.
>Cat Ferret
>>44330517
they explained how he learned (he learned like a human child, by listening and repeating the sounds until they started making sense), but not why he was even capable of learning
>>44330504
He just tried real hard.
He Saitama'd his way into learning langnuage. He kept trying constantly, day and night. He kept running on two legs and I forgot what else.
>>44330513
Nuts. That's what I was afraid of. Any other computers you can just walk up to and control with your mind? There have to be some out there.
>>44330504
He did it to impress a lady meowth. She had a humanfetish, so he forced himself to talk upright and talk like a human. However she rejected him for a Persian.
>>44330532
He seemed to be smarter than average pokemon, or at least seemed to listen to instincts less. And it felt as if he just... well, he wanted to impress a girl and he wasn't the strongest, so he tried to do the other thing he could.
Also, I remember how he totally kicked that Persian's ass to win that Meowth girl's heart but she still went to the Persian. fuck that girl, Meowth won fair and square.
It probably was cause he was a Persian so he was stronger, so natural selection. Fuckin animals. Meowth is smarter
>>44330565
Ah yes. Meowsy.
I think he listened to the radio or something like that.
>>44330573
It's implied that all Pokemon are intelligent. Meowth translates for them, and often they say pretty long winded speeches.
>>44330504
More or less Meowth is way more intelligent than average and had the immense willpower to just teach himself how to talk to try and win the heart of a lady meowth. It sorta backfired and they thought he was a weirdo, so he booked it out of town and joined Team Rocket.
He's seriously smart, most of the machines the trio of them use are largely built and maintained by Meowth.
He's just abnormally super intelligent/strong willed.
I probably should have just said outright I'm looking for a pokemon that I can cuddle and still have them be useful on a pirate ship
>>44330667
Gardevoir.
Question for the Ninjanon involving Light Bringer.
So we know that Luxin GRAFTS (replacing body parts with Luxin) are bad mojo, but what about tattoos? Would those cause any intense amount of insanity or are we safe there?
>>44330667
>implying meowth isn't cuddly as fuck
>>44330694
but Gardevoir wouldn't be very easy to cuddle with, she's got that thing sticking out of her chest/back and isn't very soft looking.
>>44330507
Boros is great. Saitama still has his work cut out for him, The Earth was predicted to be in trouble, it could mean someone else, way stronger.
>>44330722
Only if you assume it wouldn't be soft looking.
And why can't you give em alt forms?
>>44330722
It's called the embrace pokemon, how could it be anything but perfect for cuddling?
>>44330532
>"Zangoose is based on the mongoose, a cat-like carnivore."
Being cat-like does not make it a cat.
what are the Noble Phantasms you chose for yourselves jumpers ? Im have some but I cant think of my EX without ripping someone off
>>44330911
It's not truly unique, but mine were a pair of claws that worked better the larger and more "monstrous" my opponent looked.
>tfw no NP to turn people into dragons
>>44330946
im pretty sure that be at least an A rank to turn people into nasuverse dragons
>>44330911
Not for myself but my servant does have a pair of original noble phantasms.
noble phantasm:marvelous manuscripts A rank Anti-Army Noble Phantasm, da Vinci
was the greatest mind of his time and still considered one of the most intelligent and
inventive people to ever live, and he most certainly turned his intellect towards
destruction,with his noble phantasm he brings forth the designs of all his war machines
into reality and sets them against his opponent -100 SP
Noble phantasm: complete comprehension B rank Anti-Unit (Self) Noble Phantasm da Vinci sought understanding above all else, and indeed he pushed the boundaries of human understanding So far that the limit of human understanding was his
comprehension, with this da Vinci gains understanding equal to the limits of human
understanding of everything he sees, -200 SP
>>44330946
You joking about Saint George's first scrapped Noble Phantasm, or what?
>>44331023
Doesn't Saint George do that?
>>44330911
Why do you NEED an EX? Why not just get something lower ranked?
>>44330749
because I have 10 years with 0 alt-forms to work with, and I'm taking the Darkrai drawback, I'm gonna need those cuddles, and Gardevoir is overused for the purpose ofwaifuing.
>>44331085
I don't need it I just like having that extra trump card that can help me get out of the tightest place I mean im not that strong yet I rolled low power jumps the first 3 and fate is my 4th
>>44331037
ahh that's a pretty interesting one>>44331047
wait that's an actual thing ?
>>44331174
"Abyssus Draconis: Thou Shalt a Serpent Become (汝は竜なり, Nanji wa Ryū Nari?)
An Anti-Army Noble Phantasm that transfigures a given target into a draconian being. Though said function appears to be associated with the Servant's cross-emblazoned surcoat, strictly speaking, the phenomenon is implemented through the Servant's unshakeable faith; the surcoat is merely a focus, and cannot independently activate as a Noble Phantasm.[2]"
>>44331207
>An Anti-Army Noble Phantasm that transfigures a given target into a draconian being
And that's a bad thing?
>>44331174
If you want my advice you're better off getting a bunch of The ridiculously broken c rank noble phantasms like rule breaker,The Queen's Glass game And God hand. hell Maybe make a version of God hand your EX. It's Probably the best defensive buff you're ever going to get.
>>44331243
>Copying canon NPs
So sad to see people being so boring.
>>44331243
what does the queens glass game do ?>>44331207
>>44331243
ahh thanks
>>44331230
See, the thing is, that, plus another NP that allowed him to deal extra damage against Dragons, along with a NP that made him almost invincible, made him impossible to kill.
Regarding Gilgamesh's Incan plane that was supposed to fly at speed of thought... Didn't Lancelot's Knight of the Honor enhance an existing plane good enough that it could outmanuever it and shoot it down?
That speed of thought is fuckin bullshit and hearsay and Gilgamesh's over exaggerating the size of his dick... and by that I mean the power and speed of the thing.
>>44331297
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/The_Queen's_Glass_Game
Basically if you're losing a fight you can start the fight over again until you Either run out of mana or Are the winner.
>>44331316
If it's the speed of nerve impulses, it's really not that fast man. Like, we have jets today that could outpace it
>>44331276
I mean I really like the knight of honour but I don't think I could make one like that but with my own personal spin on it or could I ?
>>44331207
So are you stuck as a dragon after fighting this guy or something?
>>44331230
When the newly-christened dragon is fighting someone whose entire legend is based on dunking dragons, and has a second Noble Phantasm whose primary feature is murdering dragons super good?
>>44331276
To be fair, he's suggesting it to someone who's having issues filling out his build and wants some trump cards to protect himself in a jump above his power level.
>>44331276
The effects are the same,And I'm actually Pretty bad with Fate stuff,So I Needed a very solid benchmark,But I did give them entirely new writeups.
>>44331333
so im getting my ass kicked and I can reset to a certain point so its at either the beginning of the fight and or attack ?
>>44331276
I turned my reality marble, Paleblood Moon, into a Noble Phantasm. Normally it just gives better stats and hunter abilities but when I summon it Yharnam pops up along with its denizens.
Also I turn into Moon Presence and bumrush whoever it is with a shit ton of beasts and lasers.
>>44331344
Maybe, who knows. All I know is that that Noble Phantasm is awesome holy fuck
>>44331297
>>44331352
>>44331386
Yeah and God hand would be awesome for that, it no sells Literally anything whatsoever below its level,That's including things that would be more powerful but are not conceptual attacks, And gives you an extra life if you die.
>>44330911
EX- rank Anti-Unit (Self) armor that reduces any external damage to a small fraction of its original value. Its true power comes when it is manifested on someone other than the Servant, it grants the wearer great power equal to a Servant with extremely high parameters.
So, gimmicky NP that I'm not entirely too sure deserves EX rank, but at least it fits the theme and the "myth" I created in my last two jumps.
>>44331352
and I appreciate it all I have is aura a mudkip lawyer skills and effective supplexing manuvers
>>44331336
It's actually well below the speed of sound. Nerve impulses top out around 120 m/s, speed of sound at sea level is 343 m/s. That Vimana is slow.
>>44331316
Wasn't Gil saying it, it was the narration. http://pastebin.com/ecT7w9Fe
Also, it instantaneously breaks through the sound barrier. http://pastebin.com/FzJPgLjj
>>44331391
Wait, you can turn Reality marble into a noble phantasm? How does it improve it in other cases?
And how much better stats and hunter abilities did it give as a marble, before being a Noble Phantasm?
>>44331391
I like that a lot that's pretty cool but isn't turning into the moon presence a bit much isn't that thing absolutely ludicris
>>44331479
So what you're saying is that it's actually much faster than the speed of thought. Neat.
>>44331504
Meh, just posting information I found online.
>>44331493
Yes, welcome to fate/Type moon. Everything is equal parts historical figures R64'd For no real reason except waifu Bait,Bull crap and OP.
>>44331424
thanks for the advice bancho>>44331440
oh sweet what was your myth ?
>>44330227
What's this called again?
>>44331493
He might have eaten the umbilical cords at some point and turned it into an altform somehow. And it's really not that strong by itself. It's such a big deal in the game because it rules over the Nightmare.
>>44331492
The stats thing came from the NP boost, the hunter abilities pretty much let me pull of Art of Quickening and the stuff Gehrman and his apprentice did. In order to not be too crazy I assume it's a rank up along with urges to murderize beasts.
>>44331493
The downsides of that RM is that I'm insane because I nommed the umbilical cords. I fanwank using the RM as the only time I can use my Old One altform because of personal preference really.
>>44331541
And if you don't believe me look up Fate Jack the Ripper
>>44331541
I Have plans for knight of honour and a WW1 tank so I think I could fit in.
>>44331557
Saint Young Men.
>>44331561
>>44331579
Ahh ok I get it that's pretty neat
>>44331590
Night of honor Is pretty sweet I knew I couldn't be able to get Everything but it and FragarachAre the two things I most regret not getting.
Is she worth the CP?
So I'm sorta new to Fate. The Knight of Honor says it has maximum number of people 30. But... it affects objects and weapons. What exactly does that limit mean?
And what would happen if that ability was made into EX?
Also, holy fuck, Lancelot was a beast when you consider how his mad enhancement and Arondight upped his stats both.
>>44331276
To be fair, some of them are really damn useful. If one fits what you want, why re-invent the wheel?
>>44331641
In before that one anon who really has issues with BtVS starts yelling SLUT! SLUT1 SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUT a bunch.
Also yeah, she cool.
>>44331627
indeed>>44331641
I don't know who this is but maybe ?
>>44331276
Anon, I can't help it if a canon character and I both had the same weapon in legend.
>>44331473
it's actually intended to fly at the speed of whatever Gilgamesh wants it to be. In Nasuverse the speed of sound is different.
>>44331689
Faith the Vampire Slayer, from Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
>>44331659
Berserkers have the worst base stats
That has not stopped them wrecking face.
>>44331659
I think it would have a larger area of effect or you could take over other noble phantasms themselves till A++ rank
>>44331424
>>44331556
Heracles' God Hand is great for single-strike attacks, but it's failing is sustained damage. Something like a FLEIJA bomb or a Burst Missile will deplete the 9 "lives" it gives you.
It takes a while for the lives to regenerate too, so any powerful strike that hits more than 9 times WILL kill you.
Oh! And really powerful attacks can deplete multiple lives. One hit from a NP Sword took 3 or 4 lives out in one go.
>>44331724
Berserkers would probably be better off as sabers all things considered. Heracles wouldn't be insane and can use his NPs while Lancelot wouldn't be stuck raging after seiba.
>>44331659
Assumedly it reflects the number of objects it can affect at one time. Either that or Nasu fucked up again.
It'd gain a boost in how it affects objects. not really too big a boost since it's already got two +s and EX is from A rank. You might make things C or C+ rank instead of Ds.
>>44331762
I don't think Herc could be a Saber, the guy never used a sword. He'd be at his best as an Archer. He could be Lancer, but Archers have better stats.
>>44331659
I believe it would have a stronger and larger area of effect at EX rank think like making an entire battleship carrier your noble phantasm or possibly subverting other np's completely for rank E to A+
>>44331758
No with the first part,Those aren't conceptual
attacks are they Now.
>>44331776
Hey Can I get a ruling on this Please?
Also Val limited It to one life
and that sword was fucking Excalibur, so probably not a good benchmark.
>>44331812
Get a ruling on what?
>>44331812
God hand was limited to 1 life ?
>>44331826
Is it very strong defense or " ignore Any attack not of equal or higher level"?
>>44331850
It's ignore any attack equal or higher level for Noble Phantasms. Against everything else it's just a very good defense, hence why Rin could take a life from him with just a handful of magically charged gemstones exploding in his face.
>>44331870
Okay I was under the impression it was ignore anything not a noble phantasm as well as ignore anything of a equal or higher level,And yes even I thought that was broken.
>>44331826
what would Casa Di Logistilla be like at EX rank?
>>44331870
Equal or lower level, my mistake.
>>44332005
Maybe boost the Magic Resistance rank it gives to a higher level? Even at EX it's not going to be dispelling True Magic, so I don't really see how much it can improve. Blame Nasu for that.
>>44331840
I think that you can only purchase a version with one life, because Jumpchain. Valeria could confirm that though.
>>44332039
I mean it could dispel reality marbles at C rank what would the magic resistance be like if I had say D rank it would jump to B rank?
>>44332099
Correct. Not giving out a dozen regenerating extra lives. The one you get from Godhand is only once per jump too.
>>44332105
EX Magic Resistance I suppose.
>>44331790
>>44331776
...Oh god.
Knight of the Honor while piloting a Mecha or any of the Gurren Lagann mechs.
I assume it wouldn't work with LoT, too big. But the idea is amazing.
Shit is wack, yo.
So how does turning a Reality Marble into Noble Phantasm improve it? Assuming I don't do it through Knights of the Round but properly turning it into one.
>>44332127
if I take it can I change the lead like visage it gives me I could just look normal right ?
>>44332180
Oh, come on. The best part about it is how spooky it makes you look.
>>44332168
Mecha like a Gundam or the Gurren Lagann are about the size limit you'll get with Knight of Honour at EX rank.
It's the same as stacking another purchase of a reality marble, since that's all you're doing. The reality marble offered by the jump is A++ level, so use that as a guide for how much it'd improve it.
>>44332180
If you want a canon Noble Phantasm, you get every part of it, including the nasty bits.
>>44332241
so if I take a noble phantasm like vasvavi Shakti I can only use it once ?
>>44332241
Oh.
Buying two Reality Marbles is essentially better than EX Reality Marble Phantasm, then.
>>44332279
If you want Vasavi Shakti, you stick by all it's limitations.
>>44332291
Correct. It's also very costly.
>>44332291
you could just use both if the type--chain thing is still valid
>>44332309
ok thank you can I ask you what endiku would be ranked as ?
>>44331870
so for future reference since We clearly can't benchmark from the wiki is there any options besides asking you?
I like jumpmakers that allow more wiggle room personally.
>>44332309
if I used it up in battle would it regenerate after awhile or is it a one and done sort of deal ?
>>44332241
Are you allowed to buy a reality marble with the servant supplement rather than the jump itself?
>>44332352
C rank or so I'd say. It's only a tough chain to people without any Divinity and even those with Divinity can break it with enough raw physical strength, though that'd take Heracles with Mad Enhancement levels of strength too so it's still got a pretty high limit.
>>44332376
As much as I'd rather otherwise, there's not really any other option unless you're solely sticking to what's shown in canon. I sincerely wish I didn't have to try to balance Nasu's fucked up mess of a system, but he's inconsistent and rarely gives the full story, so I have no choice.
>>44332413
It'd be gone after one use like in canon I believe. Not really sure why you're so set on getting it instead of just making something of the same rank as Vasavi Shakti.
>>44332425
Yes. You can buy both in the same build too if you have the points to spare.
>>44332376
Ignore her and use the wiki. I don't advise that of you because you have a name and people already dislike you, but it works fine for me as a mysterious anon.
>>44332411
Take one of Roboanon's jumps.
That guy is very lenient. Perhaps too much.
>>44332532
Nah I know there are jumpmakers like that. Just sayin'.
>>44332501
thanks val and I was just wondering about it
>>44332501
So I can get three Marbles all up then and have them stack together? (1 from the jump. 1 from being a servant and one from the other jump)
What do I even want to do that?Oh boy time to get creative
>>44332637
You're taking the same Marble three times.
>>44332637
Pretty much yeah. Dunno, you could probably come up with something pretty cool.
>>44332501
I thought that that was what I was doing by working off the wiki!
>>44332653
It's like stacking a strength perk. Increases the effect you get overall. Course, by how much depends on whether you run with straight linear stacking or diminishing returns.
>>44332637
You get one marble and then buff it's power, I think. You don't get three different marbles because they are based on you, so they're all the same thing.
>>44332671
Yes, I know. Not sure what you're current complaint is, considering all I've told you is that Godhand works like it does in canon, barring the extra lives thing to fit with jumpchain's usual treatment of that thing.
>>44332653
>>44332676
Yeah don't worry I know about that rule, having more than one viewpoint never made sense to me anyway.
Shit I still have no idea what it's going to do.This is going to take longer than my LoT run
>>44332685
The wiki says it's a conceptual defense, that ignores anything of equal or lesser rank,Which is what I was aiming for with the A rank version. Could you At least tell me where the wiki got that idea?
Tranq Gun or Pistol?
>>44332790
Pistol.
>>44332713
The wiki is of the nasuverse, which can barely keep itself straight. The wiki often contradicts itself or relies on quotes from Nasu, who has shown to many times be a contradictory bastard. You're best bet is either asking someone familiar with the parts of the series that apply or just reading it yourself. The wiki can be helpful, but it's often out of date, especially towards non translated stuff, and can be outright incorrect at times.
Unless you think Rin, an ordinary (If skilled) modern human magus, is capable of firing blasts equal to an A+ Noble Phantasm (Like Balmung and just a step below Excalibur itself) then the defense must apply only to Noble Phantasms and not to non-Np attacks such as bombs or magic. It'd certainly still be a great defence against them, but it won't conceptually no sell that sort of thing.
>>44332790
Tranq Gun.
>>44332790
>>44332814
Tranqbabbies pls go.
>>44332790
Tranq Gun.
>>44332790
Tranq Gun.
>>44332825
People scared of killing are pitiful.
>>44332790
Tranq Gun so you can put your enemies in compromising positions. Especially if one of them have a overly clingy woman after them. Knock them both out and position the poor bastard to hug the woman.
>>44332790
You can get a pistol almost anywhere.
A reliable tranq gun is rare.
>>44332790
Neither, they're both ordinary guns that can be gained in jump.
>>44332813
So You Agree the whole thing is nonsense then? I mean if you can't even trust the creators word there really isn't anything to go on One way or the other...
>>44332825
>>44332852
Still-beating hearts make for better currency.
>>44332881
Where'd you go Aztec anon?
>>44332852
>accusing Val of being scared of killing
Are you sure you have any idea what you're talking about?
>>44332911
Val only wants to use the tranq so she can have an easier time eating them alive.
>>44332911
Nah she knocks them out to eat them later or something more evil later on.
>>44332878
If you cannot trust Word of God you go by the feats shown in the series itself, which is what I am doing. It is not licence to assume you can just get whatever you want because Nasu contradicts himself on some points.
>>44332852
But anon, how can they scream if they're dead so quickly?
>>44332921
>>44332924
Goddammit guys.
>>44332927
Example A.
>>44332805
>>44332825
>>44332852
pistolshitters need to leave
>>44332927
That's Five anime, Seven visual novels and 4 Like novels you have to go through,does that seem reasonable Just to take a jump?
>>44332990
No, but the question you have can be answered by just finding Berserker's fights on youtube or asking one of the several anons that have watched the series.
>>44332990
If it's what you have to do to do it properly, still no. Just don't take the jump if you can't understand the universe.
>No knifegun master race
Plebs, all of you
>>44332964
buh but mah revolver anon
>>44332790
Is the pistol silenced? How much ammo do I have for each and can I expect to find more? How many enemies will I be facing, and who/what's among their ranks?
You can't just ask someone a question like that without giving them more info.
>>44332964
Infilshitters need to go and stay go
Pistoleer Panther best husbando
Quose Cuarters Quombat masterrace
>>44333017
>Berserker's fights
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1PmzgnZROo
Okay I'm watching this and those exploding Gemstones clearly did nothing.
>>44332376
>>44332990
Using nasu wiki is like using wikipedia: good for solving questions whose answers you don't really care about, but you wouldn't want to depend on it and your professor will flunk you if you treat it as a primary source.
>clint eastwood voice
But being this is jumpchain, a singleplayer experience except when you share your build with a bunch of anons, you've gotta ask yourself one question: "Do I care?" Well, do ya, bancho?
>>44333132
Sniper rifle better than pistols son.
Git gud.
>>44333150
Mad Enhancement is a hell of a drug. It more or less eliminates the Servant's ability to feel pain, so he wouldn't flinch, no matter the damage he receives.
All Herc feels is RAGE- even when he's torn to shreds by Gilgamesh.
>>44333150
Wrong series, that's Fate UBW. You need Fate Stay Night, the battle in the forest where Rin is grabbed by Heracles and then sets off her gems point blank in his face. https://youtu.be/hCJYddATm3w?t=41m
>>44333240
While you're right, there is something deeply unsettling about someone using the old series as a source.
>>44333258
I know. I hate the 2006 anime, but it's easier then going through the VN again and finding the pages on which this happens.
>>44333258
>>44333281
The VN is 11, going on 12 years old so its already old to begin with
I feel old now
>>44332790
>>44333240
Yeah if there's contradictions in Canon doesn't the new thing overruled the old thing so what>>44333258 Said. Also neither of these were the jump I became a servant in, that would be fate extra.
>>44333281
>>44333300
http://lparchive.org/Fatestay-night/Update%2077/
Scroll down till you find the part where Rin gets grabbed by Bersarkales. Seriously there's a picture and everything.
>>44333300
They are separate routes of the same story, they do not override each other. Extra does not change how Godhand works.
Jumps for paper magic powers?
>>44333294
Jeeesus. 11 fucking years since I first found this blasted series.
>>44333321
Thanks a ton man.
>>44333341
destroy any kind of rock easily and counters rock magic, also can mute rock music
>>44333378
No problem. Though out of curiosity which class did you pick for yourself?
>>44332656
Wait, you can get up to three marbles altogether?
...
Hey val. Remember that idea of reality marble where I borrow signature powers of people I befriended in chains, etc? Kinda like ability version of Gilgamesh's NP collection?
Considering idea behind it was making it be like power if friendship/climactic battle...
How much bullshit can I pull off wit three marbles? Would it THEN be possible to scale up some of my weaker abilities? Or maybe utilize several signature abilities at once instead of switching? Or Being empowered, super tengen toppa gurren lagann style?
Or maybe actually summoning all of these people for one action each. Taking it further past just borrowing abilities and borrowing THE- wait. That's a thing already, one guy had his army...
What could be done...
>>44333333
So what you're saying is the VV is the primary source?
>>44333333
>Jump-maker ruling confirmed twice over by hexes
>>44333416
Scissor magic will fuck you up though.
>>44333450
Well I can't argue With hexes How Resilient would you say it the A+ rank version is Then?
>>44333428
I've never really gone for being a Servant myself, not for several chains at least, since I like so many of the existing Servants. Preeeetty sure the last time I went Servant I was Lancer, so I could get Bazett as my Master.
>>44333434
Maybe? Depends on how you stack perks, need to know that since it kinda determines whether you're basically getting to add the effects equal to 2 whole new RMs or just 1/2 and 1/4 of them.
>>44333441
The VN I assume you mean? Yes, the original work that everything else is based one is probably a good starting point for the primary source.
>>44333450
....holy duck. HOLY FUCK.
>>44333341
Well there's the obvious Sealing from Naruto. Also the Priest perk line in Okami. There's Ofuda to seal away yokai in Touhou. Yeah that's all I remember at the top of my head sorry.
>>44331778
Herc could be summoned as anything but a Caster.
>>44333341
I think thundercats has something, and card magic from Fairy Tail might count as well.
>>44333586
But how? He doesn't use swords.
>>44333645
We have no clue. He's just stated to be able to be any of the classes but the magicman one.
>>44333645
He used a club before.
>>44333754
Sabers are swords. Always swords.
>>44333780
Maybe the giant rock thing is meant to be a sword.
>>44333780
Eh, not quite. It's potentially possible for them to have any melee weapon that doesn't fall under Lancer's purview, such as maces or axes, as shown by Saber's little monologue at the start of FSN. Just not something that really happens because so many heroes just use swords instead.
Since we are discussing summoning servants under different classes why does summoning an evil version of an alternate class character apparently come with breast enhancement surgery? Pic Related
>>44333780
I know its supposed to be a sword but it doesnt exactly look like one
>>44333842
Really the easiest way to put it is that the servant summoning system in Fate/Grand Order is weird.
And really that's all that can be said on the matter due to a lack of information
>>44333847
One-handed lance, not a sword.
>>44333780
John henry could fall under saber
>>44333901
John Henry could be an amazing Servant.
>>44330541
Just checking, anyone know of a computer I can get in a jump that is controlled by the users mind? Not like an implant or helmet but something you could have a random of the street walk up and think at to control it.
>>44333949
He actually was summoned by someone in these threads.
Can't remember who though.
>>44333891
we've already been told that the summoning system in Grand Order doesn't work under the same logic as fate stay. anything with history can be turned into a servant, gods, spirits, fragments of spirits, concepts, etc.That's how you make it open ended so you can profit from mobage
>>44333817
Since you always get asked questions about Fate, I'm going to ask you about a different jump you made instead.
How does Promotion once you're through with the setting? Also would the notes from the Hidden Laboratory help Valkyrian Science remake the Valkyrur or is something else?
>>44334020
IIRC Justice summoned him as a girl and as a Lancer.
>>44334043
Basically yeah
>>44334088
>IIRC Justice summoned him as a girl and as a Lancer.
...
THIS IS NOT JUSTICE.
>>44334020
One-Arm summoned him.
>>44334088
I love you. Haha. Promotion basically makes it a lot easier to gain similar promotions in the future. The hidden laboratory on it's own will help guide you to making Artificial Valkyria. Combined with Valkyrian Science you could very well recreate the Valkyrur.
>>44334043
wait so I could summon gender bent angra mainyu, one of the four horsemen Teddy Roosevelt?
How's this for a team a pirate will have?
Eevee (will evolve into Umbreon)
Vulpix (will evolve into ninetails)
Seel (Will evolve into Dewgong)
Horsea (will evolve into kingdra)
Shuckle
Honedge (will evolve into Ageislash)
>>44334180
Technically yes, but they'd be no stronger than your common human. Servants got hit with the nerf hammer all across the board in Grand Order.
With good reason, the summoning system was made by Demons.
>>44334187
While it seems like a nice team, it doesn't seem very piratey. Are you aiming for 'good' pirate or an actual pirate?
>>44334238
so what determines strength now ? I wanted that teddy
>>44334246
The kind of pirate that doesn't give a damn about other ships, but if you fuck with me or my loot, there is no mercy.
>>44332813
>Unless you think Rin, an ordinary (If skilled) modern human magus, is capable of firing blasts equal to an A+ Noble Phantasm (Like Balmung and just a step below Excalibur itself) then the defense must apply only to Noble Phantasms and not to non-Np attacks such as bombs or magic.
While obviously for Jumpchain there really should be exceptions for big enough booms, if simply because of all the settings that don't have conceptual attacks but do have planet-busters+, wasn't the charge Rin used for that a huge part of the magical energy she'd been stockpiling in gems for most of her life at that point? Using the family magic that was basically a "git gud enough at this and you can make weapons that can defeat TYPEs" project from Zelretch?
>>44334276
Where are you getting your loot? If the answer isn't 'taking it from other people' then I'm not entirely sure you're a pirate.
>>44334276
Anon that's a dragon not a pirate
>>44334271
Nothing. Jack the Ripper is just as "strong" as Francis Drake, who is stronger than Gilgamesh, but definitely weaker than Okita Souji. Stats don't mean shit in Grand Order. If anything, the last chapter suggests that Servants with a "directive" are always stronger than those who don't. Francis Drake had a "dream" that she lived for, and hence she was stronger. If you tried to reenact the Iskander/Gilgamesh battle under Grand Order terms, Iskander wins 9/10 times.
The new system hard locks servants of a class against another, so Lancers will rape Archers no matter what in a power triangle, etc. etc. This is canon, and acknowledged by Servants in game.
The running joke is that the 6 Class Fafnir is actually one of the strongest creatures in existence, and people are still waiting for Ruler Fafnir to show up. The Demons themselves are hybrids of multiple classes due to their inherent abilities.Grand Order is basically Fate: Grand Wack
>>44334331
shit like buried treasure, other ships that have attacked us, occasionally we may steal shit from towns, but we're quiet about it.
>>44333509
Amuse me. Let's assume that I stack then linearly.
Then let's assume I do it in that other way that I completely did not forget a word for
What bullshit could be pulled off respectively
>>44334238
>Servants got hit with the nerf hammer all across the board in Grand Order.
Amusingly enough Nursery Rhyme pretty much got buffs across the board in terms of Fate/ Stats with a hit to her NP as a result
>>44334413
Too bad she got owned by Santa in story.
>>44334433
Santa Saber Alter Rider Hyper Turbo Championchip Edition doesnt count and you know this
>>44334325
Eh, she's still just an ordinary human and she'd used up plenty of those gems in other fights up till that point too. It's still a very long shot to be firing an attack equal to someone like Siegfried's trump card.
>>44334408
I guess you could probably scale up a few abilities you have. The bigger they have to scale the less number of powers you can effect I guess. You could probably get a few more signature abilities too. Not sure what you mean by the STTGL fusion thing but I'm leaning towards no from the sound of it. Why don't you write down some completed ideas and I'll tell you if it's too weak or too strong or whatever instead of this ultra vague stuff.
>>44334480
Canon already confirmed by story lore.
Don't forget that Grand Order Servants remember each other and you regardless of how many times they've been summonedeven if you met in the future and this is the past
So if you were to already have body and abilities from other jumps comparable to A stat of a Servant, but you didn't pay anything to get it to A, does it get Nerfed?
>>44334519
Name dammit
