"No more Star Dust updates pls" Edition
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/MhAQAJiw
Here's a dropbox with a LOT of CYOA's:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9ijwopa42ke49q1/AAA40vUS2BzstD9eHyyBLTr8a?dl=0
IRC Chat Channel
https://client01.chat.mibbit.com/?url=irc%3A%2F%2Firc.rizon.net%2Fcyoa
No but seriously, let's keep this as the final thing.
>>44305947
more updates pls
SDA pls
>>44305947
Cassandra came out a lot sluttier than intended. She's meant to be a civillian/entertainment/commercial AI.Even when I say that it sounds slutty.
Regardless, I know that this is /tg/, but please don't take the AIs too seriously. They're just there for fluff.
I also reworded the Whisperer title to accommodate the AI update.
>>44305999
Wow you did it exactly the way I wanted, thanks! I especially appreciate that you put in two more command mods like I kept asking.
>>44305999
AMCs now cost 2 spinal slots. Destroyers can now equip all T3 weapons (but tachyons and up must go on spinal mounts).
If you haven't noticed, I've done a global reduction on costs. Mostly on hulls, crew, and some mods. More elite ship models (by triglav, talons, blackhawks, etc) saw the most price reductions.
>>44306040
>>44306058
no more
>>44305947
All the money you can make come from titles and the way it is distributed across those doesn't even make sense.
It is impossible to recreate some awesome builds from 1.0.1, because the middleground is excluded. All the contracts and titles that give money are ridiculously difficult.
Plus it doesn't make sense that a tachyon laser is said to "destroy anything in its path' but only has a 5 in damage. But that's just a description change.
Everything else is awesome, and just the best thing ever, but the incomes really do need tweaking.
>>44306108
>All the contracts and titles that give money are ridiculously difficult.
Nah, a lot of them are very easy. For example the nemesis is perfect for you. Take that and one of the easymode titles like the whisperer and you have 280m credits from titles. Then get about 150m-200m from contracts. You're now above the old version starting money.
>>44306108
Titles are intended to be difficulty levels. Rewards from the titles are based on the merits of their difficulty, so I'm not making it easy to get cash. If you don't want to pick any titles, you get 100m which is actually enough to make a minimalist build.
I want this CYOA to have a sense of scalability, and I think it does that just fine. I'm not arguing about this.
I'm having a wonderful and terrible idea..
Does The Twins Tier 4 contract still provide free fighters, or do you need to pay for them?
>>44306154
Is the Whisperer really easy? It gives more than double credits than The Rogue, I'm sure there's a catch somewhere.
>>44306219
Free of course. It's not like they'll join your crew for free but make you pay for their fighters. Actually they could but that would mean they're dicks.
>>44306238
It's meant to be free cash rather than a scale of difficulty.
A pissed off ship AI is probably more deadly than ~5 traitors, though. I think it's best you plan the Whisperer carefully.
>>44306209
I just made a very minimalist frigate build (eg only cheap weapons occupying only half slots, only standard rooms&compartments and bare bone crew) yet it went slightly over 100m. I'm rebuilding this build with The Old Timer title in mind and I will post it soon.
>>44306238
Yeah, the catch is that the AI will eventually start acting mysteriously tsundere towards you and soon ask you to give it an anatomically correct android body for unspecified reasons.
>>44306269
I don't mind it if you take Old Timer either, that's meant to be the title for minimalist builds. Also don't mind if you take contracts for extra cash.
>>44306278
Careful now, what if it becomes yandere? Just ask Hal how that went.
>>44306252
And don't remove the core that prevents her from flooding the ship with deadly nuerotoxin.
>>44305947
Why do I see Whisperer AI as one who hates ir when her captain's attention is on anyone else but her?
Hear me out.. right.
Dreadnought, 90% of rooms are aquaculture, all weapons are tractor beams, all hangars are used for repair drones to keep the hull secure.
WATER-BENDER SHIP.
Discuss.
>>44306307
Standard yandere response. Just outyandere it.
>>44306307
Is it ok to take more than two titles if you only take credits from two of them?
>>44306154
except not, because i also got 330 from the jobs in the old version and 40 from titles in the old version.
I could get the same from jobs,
and i would have to make up for the missing 440mcredits with titles.
How can one do that with a defensive build and only an arbitrary max 2 titles to pick?
Not at all is what my result was.
>>44306209
That makes no amount of sense. having someone on your crew that is actively trying to kill you and betray you at the worst moment only gives you 40 while having a "moody AI" gives you 90 and someone trying to sabotage me from the OUTSIDE gives me 100.
I know that you intended good with this but it just isn't balanced. there is no middle ground. Even the easiest of titles include constant life endangering for the entire crew and if you want to actually make the lost 400million gredits back you need to pick titles that FORCE you to make an agressive combat build.
There's absolutely no scaling. The only way to earn money shouldn't be via combat.
Please also try to remember that up to now every suggestion i made to this thing turned out to be good in the end. (dreadnought carriers, crew picture changes, some minor cost and gun tweaking, description tweaks)
>>44306324
It's shit.
>>44305947
Now all I need to make my build is the waifu DLC so I check to see if my buttslut harem is still viable.
>>44306315
Or just don't give her the deadly neurotoxin in the first place.
>>44306307
Somebody said yandere ships
>>44306252
>It's meant to be free cash rather than a scale of difficulty.
>>44306209
>I want this CYOA to have a sense of scalability, and I think it does that just fine.
no comment.
>>44306349
Explain how.
>>44306370
>no comment.
if only
>>44306353
I'm not following you.
please make frigates completely useless so i can go on economic adventures in one without ever encountering some frigate with an annoying asshole hotshot captain who wishes he had bigger guns because he hates doing frigate jobs
>>44306370
You know, even Angelanon is not as obnoxious.
And at least she's not using her trip that often.
>>44306040
How big are the Mobile Suits? Are they like Armored Core big? Or are they closer to the mech bots from Cameron's Avatar?
>>44305999
Blueberry's manufacturer should be Talons, not Pulsar right? Also, what exactly does Sophocles do? Mana Interfacing is a very broad term.
>>44305999
err...cassandra?
>>44305999
Says that Blueberry'sBlueberry best AI btwmanufacturere is Pulsar Inc., but apparently the Talons did the programming? :^)
Also Beatrice R&D made three of them? That's not necessarily wrong, but still might be I guess.
>>44306361
Anyone have this translated? Asking for a friend
>>44306446
I'm not ever using a trip.
And consider the following: I was the first to ask if something could be included in the CYOA. I was given hell for it.
A year later that thing is included as a standard part of it without me pushing things.
Maybe, JUST MAYBE it'd be a good idea to actually consider my suggestions.
>>44306332
I don't see why not.
Generally, I really don't care if you bend the rules of the CYOA. I only put this stuff to images to create a framework for you guys to play around with; if you have any inquiries, I'm happy to answer them. But I don't really penalize people for going out of bounds.
>>44306330
I'm not familiar with responding to yanderes. Weird, since I dated one for four years.
Women are crazy.
>>44306348
ok
>>44306352
It should be. I'm going to do a little calibration fix on the romance DLC, which is really just changing around some portraits. Nothing else really changed.
>>44306361
oh god
>>44306370
Remember that you can shoot a traitor in the face. If you piss off an AI, it'll jettison you and your crew.
>>44306446
Just relax. Remember that this is just a CYOA.
>>44306458
11m tall.
>>44306471
>>44306507
Gehhhhh fuck you. I thought I had it flawlessly typed.
Fuck me. Posting a fixed page 2 in a second...
Yes, Beatrice made 3 of them.
>>44306494
One of the AIs.
>>44306511
you're awful and i hope SDA adds a rule to the first paragraph banning you from playing this
>>44306511
You just want all the reward with none of the risk.
"Whine whine whine, boo hoo hoo, give me stuff for free."
>>44306511
I still think that dreadnoughts are a bad idea for the scope that Star Dust is aiming for.
And I still think that you're an obnoxious sperglord. But now you decided to up your game an use a name. Is that because you think your opinion is more important than other anons'?
>>44306278
I would be okay with that.
>>44306532
You also spelt Ore Processing facility wrong, you missed an s.
>>44297540
Last thread
>>44306563
Dreadnoughts could work better if, for example, you could get three titles if you had one.
>>44306511
please leave.
So, can extra rooms be repurposed for hangar space?
Those fucking dropships are too big mang.
>>44305999
FIXED PAGE 2, please save this one instead (there's even a "fixed" tag next to the version number). Blueberry belongs to the Talons.
>>44306554
>>44306559
>>44306563
Just leave him be, it won't do the thread any good. He has good points, so I'm not entirely ungrateful of him.
>>44306574
Okay, fixing that too.
>>44306619
They used to work like that, but they don't anymore. I think it used to be better.
Can frigates (or other vessels) enter/exit atmosphere and fly? If not, how one sends vehicles there, only through drop ships?
>>44306509
Quick translation:
1) Make me your number one forever, I can't do my best if I'm not your number one...
2) Admiral only needs me. I am only yours, and you're only mine.
3) I scrapped that girl. You don't need her, you got me.
4) Are you being kind to other girls? Bad Admiral needs to be punished...
5) Yes, I know all about you, Admira. I'm always watching you.
6) I will do anything for you, please use me.
7) We've been together for so long... Hm? "we only met this summer"? What are talking about, we've always been together.
>>44306554
okay.
>>44306559
No, i want a possibility to get money like the one SDA previously made with jobs. Where there were requirements to your build other than "have enough firepower to win this battle"
>>44306563
I use a name to make it more convenient to know who you're talking to so conversations don't become a disjoint mess where you think you're talking to one guy but it's actually three. and so i can find my own posts easier. You know the standard reasons why names are allowed on this board.
Plus it makes it easier for you to ignore my posts if you don't like them.
>>44306040
>>44306630
And FIXED PAGE 3. Save this one over that.
I also changed "digital security officer" to "cyber security officer".
>>44306668
>6)
n'oh god
>>44306630
Whoops, found another one. Under Ricce in combat crew, you spelt "wreckoned" wrong, it should be reckoned.
>>44306668
Now that you mention it, I always wondered that too. In my headcanon destroyers definitely can go atmo, cruisers are a big maybe, and anything bigger definitely can't.
>>44306718
SDA please respond
In my head cannon Blueberry v7.3.1 acts like Serina.
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Serina
>>44306718
The nuance changed through the translation, it sounds somewhat sexual in english but in japanese is not. She means to be used and abused as a ship, sent to tiring missions without reward and such.
By the way, can you please use the SDA name? It makes easier to identify you.
I also remember finding another typo yesterday but I can't remember what it is.
Looks like it's going into hiding.
>>44306668
Generally, when thinking about SD ships, I compare them to their closest fictional counterpart:
>Figher
X-Wing
>Frigate
Serenity
>Destroyer
Normandy SR-2
>Cruiser
Enterprise
etc.
So yes, I'd say anything between Fighter and Destroyer could safely navigate planetside.
>>44306718
In the Origins tab under Federation Civilian, it should be Reknowned Federation schools, not "Reknown Federation schools".
>>44306843
It should actually be 'renowned'.
>>44306668
Thank you.
>>44306361
>Posting yandere type table
>Doesn't post the extended version.
I had better faith in you Anon.
Left to Right the types in this pic:
Top Row: Dependent, Monopolizing, Eliminating, Attack.
Bottom Row: Stalker, Harmless, Worshiping, Delusional, Isolating
>>44306830
The USNC Infinity is 5,694.2 meters long and it could go in atmo. Ofcourse it was also build using tech reverse engineered out or right ripped off of ships of a race that built planet sized super weapons that could kill all sapient life in the galaxy.
Fighter build coming through.
Credits
>81m
Background
>CYOA
Skills
>Basic Piloting, Standard Piloting, Advanced Piloting, Diplomacy, Ship Gunnery, Ship Gunnery Specialization (Kin), Standard Combat Training, Advanced Combat Training, Medical, Mechanics, Nuclear, Computer Science, Cybersecurity, Mercantile, Mindlink
Titles
>The Berserk, The Demigod
Ship: Scab
>Spinal Weapon Mounts: 6
>Broadside Turret Mounts: 12
>Point Defense Mounts: 8
>Hanger Space: 2
>Navigation: 25/25
>Hull Armor: 7/25
>Shield Strength: 20/25
>Mana Core
>Heraldic Shielding
>Command Mod: Pyramid
>AI: Sophocles
Hull Mods
>Spinal Weapons Mount 2x
>Broadside Upgrade 3x
>Point Defense Upgrade 3x
>Overdrive Afterburner x3
>Nano Armour Coating
>Active Cloaking
>Shield Extender
>Teleport Jammer
>Crew Quarters Upgrade
Ship Weapons
>Spinal Weapon Mounts: Railgun x6 (Multi-Barrel Rotary Railgun)
>Broadside Turret Mounts: Mana Blaster 4x Missile Launcher 8x
>Point Defense Mounts: Autocannon 8x
Hanger
>Combat Drones x2 armed with Mana Blasters
...Now take all that, and make a second one and it’s piloted by Zetta
So that leaves Comet and Hailey with space to tag along I guess. Some spending money to get us off the ground as high-rolling private investigators/stellar hitmen.
Contracts
>The Fire Grows 4, Ace 4 (pssh, like I need another fighter), Escalation 3, Heat 2
I could theoretically take a Hellraiser instead of Berserk and get a third ship piloted by Lux. But I really like the Berserk title and I didn’t feel like pushing it that far.
>>44306880
kek, guess I'm not that good at english myself then.
>>44306718
Found another one, in the origins tab under Beatrice R&D, it should be renowned, not reknown.
I'm a huge faggot.
>>44306830
any ship can make planetside maneuvers as long as your balls are large enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdkCpnGMyGw
>>44306630
>mfw realizing Scabs are now cheaper than the cheapest carrier
>>44305947
Origin:
>Fairlight
Skills:
>Advanced Piloting / Advanced Combat / Diplomacy
Titles:
>The Nemesis
>The Sorcerer
Ship:
>Acheri Destroyer
Command Module:
>Herald "Blink"
Energy Modules:
>Anti-Matter Core x2
Shield Module:
>Aegis Shielding
Hull Modules:
>Teleport Jammer / Active Cloaking / Hull Reduction / Vehicle Bay x2 / Overdrive Afterburner x5
Misc Modules:
>MITM Module / Comm Scrambler / Tractor Beam / Composition Scanner
Spinal Weapons:
>2x Torpedo Silo
>4x Tesla Overcharger
Broadside Weapons:
>2x Missile Launcher
>8x Heavy Laser
Point-Defence:
>1x Missile Pod
>2x Flak Cannon
Hangar:
>2x Dropships (2x Missile Pod each)
>2x APC (1x Autocannon + 1x Machine Gun each)
>1x MLUV (2x Machine Gun)
>1x Combat Repair Drone
Rooms:
>Crew Quarter's Upgrade
>Advanced Infirmary
>Evacuation Room
>Standard Mess + Tavern
>Lounge + Observatory
>2x Recreation Room (Shooting Range, Gym)
>Advanced Arsenal
>Teleporting Platform
>HyperComms + Digital Security
>Training Room
>Cargo Space + Engineering Bay
Pilot:
>Mikayla Stone
Engineer:
>Troy Hall
Doctor:
>Tina Wei
Gunner:
>Viktor
>"Comet"
Combat:
>Rooks King (1 Section Commander)
>Scot Shephard (2 Section Commander)
>Marcelo Lee (3 Section Commander)
>Arabelle Meyer (Sniper Team Leader)
>Faulk Goldman (Sniper Team Member)
>Sya'ra Degala (3 Section Member & Waifu)
Cyber Security:
>Veslav Smertdov
Kitchen Staff:
>Patricia Cooper (Chef)
>Carolyn Brooks (Bartender)
Crew:
>30x Mercenaries
Navigation: 20/25
Hull Armour: 10/25
Shield Strength: 18/25
This build is more designed around delivering 3 sections of Fairlight operators to where they need to go. Normally only 2 will deploy at a time due to equipment and manpower limitations, naturally each section is composed of 2 vehicle crewmen and 8 operators. When it comes to space combat, the doctrine is to outmaneuver the opponent and escape. I also would have preferred to choose a higher skilled crew archetype, but no ideal faction-neutral ones were available.
>>44306718
Aww shit, I keep finding these, sorry SDA. Under the Saint title, it should be unbeknownst, not unbeknowest.
>>44306734
>>44306843
>>44306880
>>44306988
>>44307089
No, thank you for doing this. I'm going through them as well.
>>44305947
Fixed page 1 ala autistic spelling mistakes.
Hmm debating between the Tribe or the Riptide.
If I had the money I would buy the Pyramid for the idea playing as a Dustkeeper exploring this massive ship and discovering its secrets.
>>44306058
>>44307313
And fixed page 4.
>>44307369
Found another typo. In the ship AI section under Cedrick, it should be siege, not seige. Also, under Remington it should be "latest version", not lastest version.
>>44307313
Now you need to fix something on page 5 so all the pages are fixed, otherwise it's not autistic enough.
Looking back I really think there should be a freighter class of ships.
>>44306532
I'd prefer you not change pictures because they'll probably be uglier.
I love how everyone is avoiding carrier builds like the plague.
Wouldn't having an AI make things like taking a shower, going to the bathroom, or masturbating really awkward?
>>44307313
please tell me someone has counted how many times SDA has uploaded a file.
>>44307562
What about something Milano or Firefly sized? Those seem to be in between fighter and frigate. Also battle cruisers. I know it's a bit late at this point for those but one can dream.
>>44307618
It just seems like it would make you have to either take a huge number of downsides, or have really pretty crappy equipment, if you want to make it work.
>>44307622
I don't imagine they think about it that way.
>>44307618
I was planning on making the most missile spam carrier I could(as that was one of my favorite builds with the old version), but I intended to make a Dreadnought build first and keep getting distracted.
>>44307369
Under Captain's Quarters, it should be Luxurious, not luxoriousunless that's actually an accepted alternate spelling.
>>44307639
I was thinking something bigger. Maybe in-between destroyer and cruiser but with a lot of hanger-space at the cost of some weapon points.
>>44307660
>I don't imagine they think about it that way.
That's what they want you to think, so you'll let them have access to the camera systems.
>>44307698
>I was thinking something bigger. Maybe in-between destroyer and cruiser but with a lot of hanger-space at the cost of some weapon points.
I was just saying if you were going to add a new class of I'd rather have something along those lines.
>>44306630
>>44305999
Fixed page 2.... again.
>>44307669
I'm uh... gonna just let that one slide for now.
>>44307562
Isn't freighter more about purpose than size? Freighters are just raw cargo civvy ships.
>>44307698
Part of the problem is that a freighter, since it's just a purpose, can vary a lot in size. Some of the largest would probably be as big as a battleship, but comparatively defenseless.
>>44307739
When the AI says it shuts down the camera in the bathroom when you're having a wank, you can trust it.
An AI wouldn't lie.
>>44307757
Wunderbar I forgot image
>>44307789
AI spotted.
And my build, updated.
Gonna go catch some sleep now. Bye.
>>44307789
I'm more concerned with the question of "Why are there cameras installed in the bath rooms in the first place?!"
>>44307843
>Not hiring all the qt crew members
>Not having your perverted ship AI spy on them and send you recordings
>>44307832
Well shit, I didn't even realize you could use power capacitors with an anti-matter core to get maximum power. This frees up a few extra credits on all my builds.
>>44306830
Voyager was at the very least a cruiser and it even landed.
>>44307793
One last typo. Under the This Land Contract tier 2, it should read "to observe the planet from afar", not "to observe the planet from far".
Also, you forgot toADD MORE SMELLY NEET PUSSY, but other than that, I don't see anything else wrong.
>>44307917
>not hiring all the qt security crew
>not giving them an eyeful when they cycle through camera feeds.
Granted you don't need cameras in your bathroom for that.
>>44307793
Not sure if a spelling mistake but for ERI it says "sapience" instead of what I assume was supposed to be "sentience"
Can someone explain to me how Dustkeeper discount works? Say I wanna buy Rail Gun which costs 8m/4m. The price for me would be 7m/3.5m or 7m/3m?
>>44308018
How so? Sentience is like dogs and shit. Sapience is true self awareness like humans.
>>44308090
Androids (at least to my understanding) are not sentient. I don't know tho, that's why I said i'm not sure.
>>44308090
Sentience is self aware, sapience is intelligence. A machine being sapient isn't so odd though it is likely sentient to properly qualify, but a machine suddenly gaining a sense of self awareness is odd, it implies the machine wasn't meant to be sentient. As where you could have the machine be of any real level of intellect.
>>44308157
Dogs fail the mirror test and are considered sentient. so they don't have true self awareness.
>>44308120
Well to not be a useless, unmoving and unresponsive hunk of junk they would have to have some level of sentience to be able to perceive, understand and then follow orders.
>>44308157
Why are so many people bandying around false information here? Pathetic.
>>44307807
Negatory.
>>44307843
I need to keep you safe at all times. What if you fell while in the shower?
>>44308224
>I need to keep you safe at all times. What if you fell while in the shower?
Fine, just try not to fill up too many hard drives with your monitoring of my "safety" and keep the rest of the crew from accessing it.
>>44308294
Oh, those videos will be kept safe, don't you worry.
I'll need to think up some names so they aren't just titled "Thursday wank 4" or something.
>>44308407
>>44308294
It's probably more economical to post them on the space-net for easy access.
>>44308407
Who wanks four times on a thursday? I think the captain needs a hobby.
Would civilian workers be okay with doing some perhaps slightly illegal adventure shenanigans? Nothing like raiding or pirating, but a little breaking of galactic law here and there.
Cause I need some redshirts to clean the toilets, assist the main crew members etc. and Mercs seem like combat orientated hardasses and volunteers seem like smelly freeloaders.
>>44308448
Clear he has one that requires both hands.
>>44307832
I made a thing.
More NPCs to come.
>>44305947
>>44305999
>>44306040
>>44306058
>>44306088
Is this th long awaited Stardust update SDA promised us since last december when he said he would take a few weeks off for the holidays but ended up being a nigger faggot who took a year off?
>>44308468
>get a bunch of volunteers
>keep the ones that are half decent, space the rest
>repeat steps one and two till you have a tolerable crew
>>44308504
No, this is different.
>>44308504
Better late than never?
>>44308433
That seems like a logical conclusion.
I'll need to ask the Commander to upgrade our Spacenet speeds
>>44308448
I know, right!?
I could come up with something better to do with those thick hands.
>>44308564
Goddamn it Uplink, stop trying to download ALL of the porn on the Spacenet.
>>44307793
Blueberry has "whither down foes" instead of "wither down foes".
>>44307832
>>44308489
Don't forget the ship AI. Cool build, and nice background.
Here's an updated .psd file with the current version (if you really need it):
https://mega.nz/#!QEtXkASQ!5kT63EENwZeLSHeMjqv2tHnX3kIpMqZQ7qR_sWS0ozU
>>44308504
yes
>>44308650
fuck
>>44308504
>he would take a few weeks off
He probably just forgot to mention that he was using Valve time instead of standard time.
>>44308489
That "frigate" has a fighter cockpit.
>>44308617
I have to do something when the Commander is out on a mission with those sluts.
I wish he'd give back my nerve toxins. Things were much simpler back then.
>>44307832
How do I make nice charts like this
>>44308617
>Uplink and Blueberry will never duo ara-ara~ you
>>44308762
the psd is literally there in the same post
>>44308725
It just has a big lego-style profile. Actually, if you have a suggestion concerning how Fed corvettes would look, be my guest. I used a pic that looked like the original Wolf destroyer for the Foxhound, but Skate's pic is too low-res, so I couldn't make out any details.
>>44308762
.psd is here >>44308687
Here's the frigate I posted early taking in account a title and some contracts:
Title:
The Old Timer [+70m]
Contracts:
-Search & Rescue, Tier 4 [+47m]
(Requires Cargo Bay, Standard Infirmary and 15/25 Shield)
-This Land, Tier 2 [+17m]
(Requires Laboratory and Observatory)
-All Aboard, Tier 2 [+22m]
(Requires Crew Quarters Upgrade and Officer's Quarters)
+100m = 256m
Origin: Dustkeeper
Skills: Adv. Combat Training, Ship Weapon Specialization (Kinetic), Mercantile, Basic Piloting
Hull: Venture [26m]
Ship AI: Beatrice
Energy: 2x Nuclear Fission [30m]
Shield: Advanced [12m]
Command Mod: "Columbus" BTR37 [4m]
Hull Mod: Shield Extender [6m], Hull Reduction [0m]
(Subtotal 78m)
Weapons:
-Spinal (1): Rail Gun (7m)
-Broadside (8): 4x Missile Pod [10m], 4x Flak Cannon [10m]
-Point-Defence (4): 4x Light Laser Cannon [5m]
(Subtotal 32m/110m)
Hangar (5): MLUV [4m], Submarine [6m], Hull Repair Drone [6m], 2x Scout Drone [2m]
(Subtotal 18m/128m)
Rooms and Compartments (8): Crew Quarters Upgrade [1m], Officer's Quarters [2m], Standard Infirmary [2m], Evacuation Room [1m], Standard Mess Hall [2m], Lounge+Observatory [2m], Laboratory [3m], Cargo Space+Engineering Bay [3m], Arsenal [4m]
(Subtotal 20m/148m)
Crew (14):
Gregor Hunt [2m], Enrico Jourdan [1m], Malcolm Red [3m], Ignacio Lopez [2m],
Brian Richardson [1m], Lauren L. Lazuli [0m], Jorgen Masterson [1m],
5x Explorers [0.3m]
(Subtotal 10.3/158.3)
I'm yet not completely happy, I'll see what I want to tweak later. Also I still have roughtly 100m, I have no idea what to do with those, buy cheap fighters?
>>44308828
>>44308815
I want a different design
>>44308903
okay
Where to get tons of space ship and mech designs?
>>44308925
anon pls
>>44308903
Then make one, what's the problem?
>>44305947
>No AI upgrades.
>Only 4 woman AI's.
Aw man. I really wanted an all-purpose AI with skills and upgrades. Not some glorified cruise control. Auto-pilot is like the minimum you expect from a program. Airplanes do this. Even the self-driving car is more advanced than that. Anyway, as promised, I will do my build now in my next post.
>>44308969
Idk how, thats why im asking. Are there templates or something?
>>44309018
No. You use Photoshop and your imagination.
>>44308968
Sincere question anon, im sorry.
>>44308687
>>44307832
Turns out I fucked up the math in this build so I had to remove some brain cells from poor York.
Final build for those who care.
Working on building a destroyer and I'm already at 450 without the crew.
Wow shit is really expensive.
>>44308925
Pixiv.
Jesus Christ this thing became shit.
Most things became more expensive, there's more stuff to add, the ships have WORSE stats per default, the discounts that previously applied to a lot of things now only apply to the hull, and on top of that the only way to earn back your previous starting credits is through vicious combat.
Oh and heraldic carriers have been removed entirely.
Fuck this.
0,4 radians isn't a whole lot. Buff paint job plz,
Oh and the bonuses from crew members are gone too.
In other words this became a standard "which guns will you buy to shoot your enemies with" cyoa.
This used to be fun and so complex.
Fucking shame.
>>44306361
I need a source now man. Please!
>>44309463
>>44309571
cya nerd
>>44309463
>>44309571
Didn't SDA say in this update that he made things cheaper? Did he lie and make them more expensive than in last thread?
>>44309697
http://iqdb.org/?url=http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1450734025774s.jpg
weeb images are easy to find source for
>>44308816
Well, you could go with the usual trifecta of a blue faction, a red faction and a green/purple faction, with one being boxy, one being spiky and one being smooth and rounded.
>>44309571
I did tell everyone that the CYOA would become worse with all the customization removed, but no, anons love it.
Just thought of a kind of different way to do Star Dust. First pick your crew, whoever you like ignoring the archetypes, then take their collective cost, and multiple it by 10. Then build a ship/fleet to suit that crew using those credits and ignoring titles and such. Might not be quite the most balanced, but it does give an interesting way to do it, and you are almost certain to end with a ship that you feel is something those crew members would belong on.
>>44309740
He's talking about a really really old version. This update did make things cheaper.
>>44309796
>>44309571
Oh man, you two should be friends.
Both of you have some of the worse case of autism in the likes of which I have never seen before.
>>44309836
I argued my view like once and haven't commented since. If I was autistic I'd never ever let up.
>>44309861
There was one guy who went full autism rage a few threads back. I swear he was seeing red, replying to literally everyone.
That said, I disagree. The catalog is a lot more refined than picking a mishmash of stats from different subsystems.
>>44306324
And here I thought you were going to go rob waterworlds and sell the exotic creatures to collectors, the people as pool cleaning slaves and any other sundry items you could get away with.
I think the problem is that the starting credits have been greatly reduced forcing you to take titles if you want to buy anything other than cheap things.
>>44310028
Which is the point, sadly, but some people don't like forced drawbacks.
Seems like I'm gonna have to implement some more price changing for a 2.0.3 version. Fuck.
I'm thinking of reducing pricing on some vehicles while also letting vehicles get a free weapon (like drones do). Also reducing some hull prices further, especially for mid-ranged class hulls. I think heavy class hulls are fine where they are, but they'll see some reducing too.
>>44309463
Please don't let the door hit you on the way out.
>>44310028
That's exactly why I made it that way. If you want more funds, take up some complications.
I don't want to design this CYOA in a way where going only for the best ships and equipment is how everyone should do it. As I've said before, it's about scalability. Stop comparing your build to others because you aren't meant to be on even terms.
>>44310089
The CYOA doesn't force you to take any.
>>44310028
The only ship that you can make on the starting credit budget is a good fighter or a very sparse frigate.
>>44310141
Basically nothing. This aint WWI, a single fighter isn't good for anything.
Someone post the Stardust wiafu shit
>>44310186
Except if everyone who doesn't have a title has fighters, then that means that most of the setting is fighter swarms.
>>44310251
I don't think most people, comparatively, are in our situation at all.
>>44310129
Basically what >>44310141 said.
I was just planning on making a destroyer but everything is expensive and I don't want to take the most expensive titles just to be able to build it. I'm not even taking the most expensive stuff. T2 weapons and nuclear power.
>>44310186
Anon do you own an car?
Well that car is absolutely terrible because it doesn't have the armour, engine, treads, FCS or gun of a main battle tank. How are you even expected to engage IFVs without any fucking weapons? Are you going to ram into them? God fucking luck, your mom probably weighs more then that piece of shit.
You have shit taste in cars. Leopard II, Abrams or bust.
>tfw you come back and SDA has updated stardust
>you can see your own influence in the CYOA
I am a happy person
>>44310129
You need to reduce the cost of weapons.
>>44310333
Anon can you imagine driving a tiny car with a single cramped seat for weeks at a time? Without being able to move? That's what it's like using a fighter as a transport.
>>44310271
Well, if larger vessels really are so expensive in this setting then why wouldn't pimped-up fighters and crumby frigates be far more common?
>>44309836
So i'm an autist for complaining that a formerly complex and versatile game now became simplified and only caters to spastic gun-toting cunts.
A 250m ship with the SAME THINGS now costs 350m. And i can get 22m less credits from jobs.
And bonuses from all the crew don't apply any more.
Additionaly i cannot get the second part of the build made at all, since a heraldic carriers were removed.
>>44310028
>>44310089
exactly
>>44310129
The cyoa does force you to take those drawbacks because otherwise you end up with an unflyable piece of shit unfit for any adventuring. And no the drawbacks are not the sort of adventure that would be fun. The jobs you came up with were fun.
>I don't want to design this CYOA in a way where going only for the best ships and equipment is how everyone should do it.But that is precisely what you achieved!
Don't you see?
people weren't afraid to go with the less than perfect options before, because with enough money they could make even a shit hull work, and with the right crew a lot of the drawbacks were smoothed out.
Now you punish people who don't make the best build ever by the standard money not being accessible if you can't fight off the hordes of hell and reward people who only go for the very best in everything by giving them more money than before.
>>44310192
Ask and ye shall receive.
>>44310383
Because they sound like they're restricted to governments and the very rich.
>>44310362
The cost of weapons is already too damn low.
The cost of hull additions is exorbitant. You spend more on internal fricking architecture and what amounts to decor than on the hull itself.
Plus two entire new classes of ships (vehicles and drones) and an entire new mode of warfare were introduced without any new methods to pay for them.
>>44310382
>ignoring the fact that six out of the 10 fighters have HANGAR SPACES big enough to fit 11 foot mechs, tanks and submarines.
Okay.
>>44310407
So maybe it's not that the fighters and frigates are pieces of shit, just that anything larger than that is state-of-the-art and hideously expensive?
Posting my updated build
Name: Harris T. Locke
Origin: Fairlight
Skills: Advanced Combat Training, Ship Weapon Specialization (Kinetic), Industry, Mercantile
Titles: The Ghost, The Guardian
Contracts: T4 Search & Rescue
Ship Name: Steel Rhino
Class: Viking Destroyer
Spinal Mounts: Rail Gun, 4 Artillery Cannons
Broadside Mounts: 8 Auto Cannons, 6 Missile Pods
Point-Defense: 2 Light Particle Blasters, 2 Machine Gun, 2 Flak Cannons
Hangar Space: 8
Navigation: 15/25
Hull Armor: 18/25
Shield Strength: 18/25
Length: 255m
Crew: 46/48
Extra Rooms: 13
Energy Use: 5/5
A.I.: Cedrick v9.2.9
Energy System: Anti-Matter Core
Shield Subsystem: Aegis Shielding
Command Mod: V77-SLT Control Room
Hull Mods: Nano Armor Coating, Overdrive Afterburner x5, Point-Defense Upgrade
Modules: Salvage Harvester, MITM Module, Honey Pot Module, Tractor Beam
Rooms: Crew Quarters Upgrade, Officer's Quarters, Captain's Quarters, Standard Infirmary, Evacuation Room, Standard Mess Hall+Tavern, Cargo Space+Engineering Bay, Hypercomms+Digital Secuity Room, Arsenal, Factory Wing, Laboratory, Holding Cells, Meat Fridge, Aquaculture+Hydroponics
Vehicles: Dropship, Combat Drone, Shield Drone, Hull Repair Drone, MLUV
Vehicle Weapons: Machine Gun, Light Particle Blaster
Crew:
Pilots: "Hailey", Conrad Bryant, Ise Ley'is
Engineers: Arthur Foster
Doctors: Devon Trice
Gunners: Faith Nichols
COM/SEC: Darrel Wallace, Lt. Jenny Larue, My'hra Jos, "Archangel"
Cyber Sec: "Slash Singer"
Food: Patricia Cooper, Carolyn Brooks
Science: Isaac J. Bidlack
Misc: 1 Android, 10 Blackhawks, 10 Mercs, 10 Industry Laborers
>>44307757
What if I don't want an AI on my ship?
>>44310467
Even fighters seem like they cost tens of millions, so not available to average citizens. So as far as what's common, I think massed combat is most common, not any particular ship.
Welp Just finished my flying city state.
Origin: Beatrice R&D (100m)
Skills: Basic Piloting, Standard Piloting, Advanced Piloting, Coputer Science, Mechanics, Nuclear, Medical, Mindlink and Diplomacy (-6m)
Titles:
The Demigod (+420m)
The Fatebreaker (+400m)(914m)
Contracts:
Search & Rescue (T4 +24m)
The Acheron (T4 +34m)
Escalation (T4 +40m)
This Land (T4 +36m)
All Aboard (T4 +28m)
Rogue Drones (T4 +34m)
Twin Fangs (T4 +26m)
Heat (T4 +40m)
Mining King Steve (T4 +34m)
And the Fire Grows (T4 +18m)(1228m)
Ship: Trail Blazer
Ship Hull: Dreadnaught; "Mothership" (-540m)
Ship AI: Blueberry v7.3.1 (Free)
Energy Subsystem: Mana Core x2 (-60m)
Shield Subsystem: Mana Shielding (-40m)(588m)
Drones:
Combat Drones x20 (-40m)
Auto Cannon x6 (Free)
Missile Pods x7 (Free)
Flack Cannon x7 (Free)
Mining Drone x4 (-4m)
Mining Harvester x4 (Free)
Mining Harvester x4 (-4m)
MK2 Frequency Lens x4 (-4m)
MK3 Frequency Lens x4 (-12m)
Salvage Harvest x4 (-12m)
Repair Drone (-5m)
Combat Repair Drone x4 (-12m)
Science Probe (-8m)(487m)
Spinal Weapons:
Heavy Laser Cannon x6 (-28m)
Anti-Matter Cannon (-80m)
Broadside Weapons:
Heavy Laser Cannon x40 (-160m)
Point-Defense Weapons:
Missile Pods x5 (-5m)
Light Laser Cannon x5 (-6m)
Flack Cannon x5 (-5m)(203m)
Rooms and Compartments:
Crew Quarters Upgrade (-1m)
Officer's Quarters x3 (-6m)
Advanced Infirmary (-12m)
Advanced Evacuation (-9m)
Fancy Mess Hall (-7m)
Tavern (-2m)
Gravity Control Room (-2m)
Lounge x3 (Free)
Recreational Room x2 (-4m)
Observatory (-2m)
Laboratory (-3m)
Terraforming Bay (-16m)
Ore Procesing Facility (-4m)
Factory Wing (-4m)
Cargo Space x14 (Free)
Engineering Bay (-3m)
Hypercomms Room (-2m)
Digital Security Room (-4m)
Advanced Arsenal (-9m)
Training Room (-3m)
Teleporting Platform (-5m)
Holding Cells (-1m)
Meat Fridge (-4m)
Aquaculture Room (-2m)
Hydroponic Garden (-1m)
Secure Vault (-2m)
Upgrade Ship Security (-8m)(87m)
>cont.
>>44310522
Crew Members:
Anna Tse (-1m)
"Haily" ("Free")
Trisha "Props" Lim (-4m)
Amy McCartney (-5m)
Kelly Moss (Free!)
Lyra Miralda (-7m)
Faith Nichols (-4m)
"Comet" ("Free")
Sophie Haynes (-3m)
Ley'ra Laur (-3m)
Dani "Cuts"Laine (-3m)
Livia Amaruq (-5m)
Arabelle Meyer (-6m)
Erica "761" (-2m)
"Uplink" (-14m)
Lauren L. Lazuli (Free!)
Sarah Escher (-3m)
Madeline Moran (-2m)
Vito Lozano (-4m)
Carolyn Brooks (-2m)(19m)
Volunteers x2100 (Free!)
Civilian Workers x600 (-10m)
Researchers x100 (-2m)
Industrial Labourers x100 (-2m)
Operators x100 (-5m)(0 credits left)
>>44310394
Still dont know how to romance Styx and giver her the D
>>44310557
Do her quest with the other Riders
>>44310129
Oh and while i can deal with the arsenal being separated from the teleporters the meat fridge being a separate room both from hydroponics and the cantine is atrocious.
If you had just added the new things without greatly simplifying and repricing all the things this had before it would have been a LOT better.
>>44310557
Do the quest with the other riders, and go all out, and get Archangel at the same time.
>>44310576
why are you still here if you hate everything so much
>>44310507
Tens of millions is still easier than several hundred million.
>>44310628
Because he has a personal vendetta against SDA
>>44310634
Still very rich tier.
>>44310576
Uh, how does a cloning lab for slabs of meat directly correlate to the place where you grow plants or where you cook the food? I mean they are obviously tangentially related but most cantines would just have a refrigerator, not a friggin cloning lab.
>>44310659
Nah you're not accounting for all the inflation.
>>44310644
>>44310628
Because I havetried to and managed to help out in the early creation phase of this and i hate to see it become less than what it was.
>>44310673
Then combine it with a science lab, but having an entire hangar or mess hall sized room exclusively for growing a few slabs of meat seems inefficient and is wasting precious room on what i previously assumed to just be a joint venture between the sci-labs and the kitchen.
And rooms are a valuable commodity nowadays anyways.
>>44309478
Paint jobs shouldn't take up THE mod slot.
>>44310757
I've provided feedback for several big CYOAs before and not all of it was used. That does not mean that the creator is a terrible tyrannical tryhard tittyfuck, it means he is a human with a vision, opinions, and time constraints.
>>44307313
SDA please combine this with Solar Inheritance. ty
>>44310757
I could maybe see it being combined with the science lab but I personally wouldn't over sanitation concerns. I mean do you really want that zerg expy you found on random hell planet A7X-234 getting into your food supply? And generally speaking, growing meat for consumption IS inefficient and takes up a lot of space when compared to growing plants for food.
>>44310384
The problem is that modest, mid-tier builds are difficult to do as per >>44310332
That said I didn't read any of your post but I get it, I need to do price adjustments. I'm gonna start with vehicles being less impactful to your wallet.
Then I'm gonna reduce hull prices further and probably increase rewards from contracts.
>>44310503
Winston is meant to be non-existent. Just take that one.
Or you don't even have to specify an AI if you don't want to, it doesn't really detract anything.
>>44310576
blah blah blah
>>44310557
Do it very, very carefully.
>>44310574
>>44310624
What does this even mean
>>44310659
Your standard corporation, planetary government or system-locked paramilitary group is probably willing to invest in several fighters or frigates. A cruiser is likely to be seen as a flagship in the eyes of everyone but the big interstellar players.
>>44310835
I never said any of those things. I Fucking adore SDA.
My problem is with most of the other anons around, who apparently made him change the CYOA that this was a year ago, into something that is objectively less complex and versatile than before.
>>44310709
I doubt they're american bucks mate.
>>44310903
You SDA?
>>44310871
Actually a planetary/terraforming DLC was something I was thinking about awhile back. It was supposed to be a surprise but I just really want to finish this CYOA and be done with it for now.
>>44310834
It was really just supposed to be a joke; command mods aren't a requirement so you don't have to take it. And if you choose not to, just go with the paint job.
>>44310917
No, I am SDA.
>>44310917
no im sda
>>44310954
No, I'M the SDA.
Hey anons, what genre of CYOA do you want to see most?
>>44310952
Who are you kidding? You don't hold a candle to me, the real SDA.
>>44310917
No, it was just a logical guess.
Just because larger, more expensive ships are better, it doesn't make fighters and frigates bad, just the affordable, mass-produced alternative.
>>44310900
The Asunder, Sweet contract, if done with all 4 of the most expensive combat crew gives you a set of power armor. SDA is implying that having power armor might increase Styxs interest in you. The other guy was implying you might also get Archangels interest as well at the same time.
>>44310981
good ones
>>44310877
Humans need meat to be healthy, though.
>>44310899
>price adjustments.
-All that price creeped up on me without ever having bought a single vehicle or drone.
And i haven't even fully filled my gun slots either.
-Things having more guns but less room with more room options also forces fleet builds or the buying of larger ship classes.
-There would be virtually no problem with the middle ground if everyone still got the 500 starting credits. By binding the money to difficult to attain titles you provided more incentives for taking only the best of the best.
-Titles should be more of a prestige thing and a bonus so those with it can afford the best of the best, rather than a necessity if you want to build anything but a garbage hauler.
guys i dont think stardust is a harem anime
>>44311045
I see
>>44311077
Romance supplement argues otherwise.
>>44311041
They're not really affordable though
>>44311077
Not with that attitude.
>>44310952
>I just really want to finish this CYOA and be done with it for now
That NI guy burning you out?
See the older version made it feel like you got lucky and scored big earning you a huge amount of money.
Now Stardust has a completely different feel.
SD General
Ignore all my posts SDA, I'm just a enormous attention whoring faggot.
>>44311185
congratulations on your promotion!
>>44311065
Yes and no. You can get along with out meat with a very careful diet and/or supplements. And the Cantine would probably have a freeze with a supply of meat that you would have to periodically restock. The purpose of the Meat Fridge cloning room is you don't have to stop to stock up on supplies as often or rely on supplements to keep your crew healthy (though probably not particularly happy).
>>44310906
People are pissed about two-three full threads of whining by you.
>>44311192
Remove your name faggot.
>>44311227
I don't see how that is in any way related to having a adventure.
>>44311182
Stardust is going the way of Bethesda. The soul is dying but the approachability is rising.
SDA, how many years until another update?
>>44311147
I haven't even been around for a year before 6 hours ago.
I want to do a build but this NI guy keeps getting it changed and making SDA sad.
>>44311217
Okay i will try to keep it to more concise and less emotionally laden posts from now on.
>>44311354
hardy har har
very funny
>>>44311147
>I haven't even been around for a year before 6 hours ago.
>>44311395
>very funny
But it's true.
Well this took forever.
>>44311147
Kind of, but the problem really stems from cost balancing.
I'm currently gutting this out and I'm slashing prices majorly in the CYOA. After 2.0.3 I'm done, even though I said that the past 3 times.
>>44311192
ok
>>44311333
Not enough.
>>44305999
>tomOhawk
unplayable CYOA. I demand a refund.
![101lunarmoth[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/nds5E6I.png "101lunarmoth[1].png")
>>44311461
So here's the interesting thing. This is a very similar ship from an earlier version of Stardust. It only uses about a fifth of the available budget (500m credits)
I get that you're supposed to take lots of contracts and titles and stuff, but I think that's too much of a difference.
>>44311502
Well it's always a shame when someone loses their spark. At least we have someone to blame this time.
>>44311502
>I'm currently gutting this out and I'm slashing prices majorly in the CYOA. After 2.0.3 I'm done, even though I said that the past 3 times.
What about the DLC?
>>44311502
Perhaps you could get away from cost slashing by raising the starting cash instead. Less work that way probably. How would it be balanced if people started with 250mil? or 200mil?
>>44311539
last time it was just the creator getting bored of the community, IIRC?
>>44311539
Totally not my fault, I'm the savior of this cyoa, without my valuable autistic advice.
>>44311561
I say that plus some cost slashing especially for ship subsystems and mods.
>>44311626
That defeats the point you nonce.
>>44311502
We all appreciate what you do for us, SDA.
>>44311597
Have you considered putting your autism into something constructive like making your own CYOA as opposed to cancering up threads chasing an unseen goal? Because as it stand your entire namefag history is an exercise in futility.
>>44311673
You mean an exercise in killing all the potential future content SDA was considering.
HURP DERP DERP DERP MODS PLEASE BAN ME
So here are the questions i came up with:
I'm not saying these are necessarily bad things, but i seriously don't understand them. If someone can sufficiently explain any of these i'd appreciate it.
a) Why were crew bonuses removed? They provided nice fluff and a more complex selection than just the standardized skills.
b) Why were the skills simplified and the additional job specifications removed?
c) Why were drones and vehicles added without additional sources of income?
d) Why are equipment prices not scaling with the hull any more? It seemed absolutely logical and realistic, and additionally would solve the problem of the "missing middleground" by allowing people without hell conquering ships to buy okay tier equipment.
e) Why are the hull-manufacturer bonuses removed? The system now seems less consistent even with separate hulls. Pulsar frigates for example used to have 12 rooms and 12 crew. Now they have 15 crew and 10 rooms, which additionally doesn't warrant the 150m size.
f) Why are some categories gone completely? If heralds were so fond of swarming with fighters, surely they would have had carriers for them?
g) Why are frigates and drones taking up so much hangar space? The space cost was doubled without the carriers getting more slots or the fighters becoming a lot more powerful effectively meaning that it's unprofitable to support these small scale ships any more.
h) Why is it good that the initial starting credits are now super low and you can only get them back by taking really extremely dangerous drawbacks? Shouldn't titles be just that? Titles f merit? Why are you forced to pick some of them if you want to build a good ship? Wouldn't it make more sense for jobs to award the big money and titles to award discounts?
g) Why can't backgrounds be less faction driven like they were? Why no more free crew members or abilities why only tiny discounts?
>>44310981
urban fantasy cyberpunk.
>>44311703
Why won't you shut the fuck up and leave us alone?
>>44311703
a-g) because fuck you in particular, that's why.
