>have idea for a character concept that sounds fun
>widowed high strength priest bbeg killed his wife, her skeleton is inside a coffin which he uses as a weapon
>different coffins act as better weapons, base is just wooden coffin
>channels her ghost for combat/ buffs, starting with very basic abilities
>gm: i'm not gonna allow it. Here why don't you be a werewolf?
ITT: GMs who hate fun.
>>43970711
That character sounds fucking awesome. It makes me think find memories of shaman king.
Did the dm give any reason why he wouldn't allow it?
Wait, he hits people with his dead wife?
Wouldn't her bones get fucked up and smashed to bits from rattling around inside the coffin?
For that matter, how does he even hold it? Did he fit extra handles on the side that help him to swing it properly?
How is a wooden coffin resilient enough to get smashed against things? The planks wouldn't be strong enough to hold up for long, especially if you're braining people in helmets and full armor?
More importantly, why is he avenging his wife when he seems super keen on showing her the maximum disrespect possible?
>>43970711
>>have idea for a character concept that sounds fun
Okay
>rest of the post
Oh shit son what are you doing
Ebin memeing aside, what game was this for? As a GM, I'd like my players to show a bit of creativity from time to time, but if it means having to work against the system to get a mechanical representation that 1. satisfies the player 2. is manageable 3. doesn't take up all the fucking game, I will say no.
>>43970798
> not honouring dead loved ones by throwing their rotted corpses at your enemies
seems snowflakey, depends on setting ect
>>43970867
>>43970798
>traveling through a mountain pass
>a vile troll drops down from the cliff above
>priest mutters a benediction, calling upon the spirit of his wife to guide and protect him
>readies his enormous coffin, and takes a mighty swing at the foul beast
>the coffin shatters upon the trolls scaly hide, sending fragments of bone flying in all directions
>priest just has time to hear an ethereal "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?" before his wife's skull flies off the cliff and gets swept away by a river
>>43970756
He said the character sounded overpowered. No explanation beyond that.
>>43970798
He hits people with his dead wife. He's grizzled and aged and not especially likeable. The coffin is a solid coffin, if the wooden one breaks the idea was he'd be able to get a metal one eventually and upgrade to better coffins from there. Sure the bones get banged up, the ghost would have been what matters. He doesn't disrespect his wife, it's just what works for him.
>>43971003
>>He said the character sounded overpowered
His powers come from his special snowflake backstory. He's narratively powered, so I'm certain you'd keep demanding circumstantial bonuses.
>>43970711
>which he uses as a weapon
To be honest I'd say no to that part specifically. It's just a little too out there. I'd let you haul around her coffin or carry her urn or whatever and try and work with the ghost channeling, but that's about as far as I'd go.
>>43970955
>The troll looks at the priest and shakes his head in disapproval.
>>43970831
Shit man I don't even remember the system, it was new to me and the game didn't really take off because half the players spent the whole session out of character laughing about pop culture references and memes.
I do know it had galvanic weapons, werewolves, limbs, psychic powers, vampires, dampirs, zombies, and a system for channeling ghosts.
>>43971049
yeah or have a club made out of the bones of her dead wife. though that might be a bit too macabre
coffins don't really sound like viable weaponry. have you tried to lift a coffin? it takes like 4 dudes just to carry one around
>>43971110
I'd allow it.
If the coffin were, say, a hammerhead of some giant hammer or something, I don't see why someone would say no.
But just a coffin? Eh.
>>43970711
Should've gone with a dwarf that impales his enemies with thrown corpses.
>>43971021
>narratively powered by snowflake backstory
Like how? His only involvement in the back story was that his wife was in some way killed by bbeg, directly or otherwise. If that's too snowflake I have to question whether you hate characters with any motivations at all.
>>43971110
Ok but see, that's kinda important.
>Superhero game
>I want to beat people with a coffin
>Ok here's the points you need to spend
No problem
>D&D
>I want to beat people with a coffin
>have to pick up feats from 3 books, class features from 3 other, and homebrew something else
Way less ok.
From your brief description it sounds like you could have all the tools in place, so I'd be more lenient towards allowing it. It's a bit silly though.
>>43971021
What kind of backstory should he have?
>>43971277
I acknowledge that it is a bit silly, but when has that ever been a damning thing? The character he takes himself seriously, but I wholly expected him to be a taken with a grain of salt and a source of good natured ridicule at some point.
>>43970711
>have idea for a character concept that sounds fun
Anon, being lul s00 r4ndum doesn't equate to being fun.
>>43971819
How is that "lolrandum?" Literally just a priest with an unorthodox weapon that has no magical properties in a setting that already allowed you to channel ghosts.
>why has this not been brought up
I am completely on board with concepts that are bad-ass. GM should've come to a compromise and asked for slight alterations if the character didn't fit their vision of the campaign.
>>43970711
I got to do something similar once, and it was awesome. Played in a 6th level game where LA's were allowed. I played a bugbear, and another player decided to play a ghost. He learned that you can fuck with a ghost by fucking with their body, so we decided that my bugbear carried his giant iron coffin around, wrapped in chains, as a bigass flail.
Unfortunately, he later found out how dangerous it is to play a 1st level undead with a +5 ELA when a Cleric vaporized him instantly without even breaking a sweat.
>>43971277
Or just say that the coffin is an improvised weapon (or greatclub). There, no need. Then just be a cleric or inquisitor and buff yourself while saying it's ghosty waifu.
This sounds like the most retarded shit.
Would not put up with in my game.
Also, its not even that funny just as a joke, let alone actually trying to play it
>>43970955
I hear it as a ghostly woman's voice scream those words as it fades quickly via Doppler effect then a light *sploonk*.
>>43973023
Not even a joke character, just no delusions about it not being silly. This sounds like it just doesn't suit your personal tastes especially since it can just be classified as a great club like >>43972649 said.
>>43971254
>His only involvement in the back story was that his wife was in some way killed by bbeg, directly or otherwise
My god
I spent this whole time thinking that you meant your character was a wannabe BBEG who killed his wife and then somehow forced her ghost into working for him while you bang her coffin around, because your OP post was missing a comma.
>>43973174
Oh. Ohhh. Yeah that would be retarded as shit, my bad.
>>43970711
>Here why don't you be a werewolf?
I'd play one. Hell, I've had one waiting on the backburner for a few months now.
>>43973349
They're cool and all, but I just wanted to be human.
>>43973420
werewolves are human most of the time. they just have a disease that turns them into rage monsters once a month.
>>43973439
I think you might be talking about women. A werewolf is a furry creature with claws.
>>43973439
Sure, but it's still shitty to have your character concept trashed so you can get drafted into playing one.
>>43973459
only on the night of the full moon. all other times they are Human, maybe with a little bleed over, but still more human than most furries.
>>43970711
I wouldn't either. Stop copying off Shaman King and play a real character.
>>43973439
Just like a woma-
>>43973459
Ahhh, someone else got it before me.
I reckon that's sorta a cool concept, and not just limited to a high STR dude swinging a coffin around; some sort of Warlock that channels his magic through a particular deceased's ashes, or something similar. It's just a problem with tweaking balance for some things, but it could be slotted in fairly easily I reckon. Then again, I'm not familiar with many systems.
Was he gonna be kinda... crazy? Like he'd talk to the coffin, reassure it that everything was going to be fine, and stuff?
>>43973439
Were talking about lycanthropes, anon; not women.
>>43973485
Maybe your character concept sucks.
>>43973558
That was the idea, yeah. I figure you'd kind of have to be to be swinging an occupied coffin around in the first place.
>>43973610
Aside from your taste and the chip on your shoulder, what about it is so bad?
>>43970711
>More importantly, why is he avenging his wife when he seems super keen on showing her the maximum disrespect possible?
I think hitting people with your deceased loved ones sounds like a great idea.
>>43973639
Sounds alright, imo. Hell, if I was good at GMing I'd have your dead wife talk back to you.
>WHY THE HELL AM I BEING SHAKEN AROUND
>YOU KNOW THIS IS DESECRATION, DON'T YOU
>OH FINE, IF WE'RE GOING TO THAT GUY
>DARLING COULD YOU AT LEAST MAKE SURE I DON'T GET SHAKEN INTO A FINE BONE POWDER BEFORE WE GET THERE, I WANT YOU TO BEAT HIM TO DEATH WITH TIBIA
>>43973788
Would have been a lot of fun. I'm going to try him again with a different DM someday, but I'm kind of stuck permadming for the time being.
>>43972574
What "slight alterations" would you ask for to make that trainwreck of a character even remotely playable?
>>43970711
>Just cleared out a dungeon with the party
>Going through chests which conveniently contain upgraded gear for everyone
>Get to my chest
>It's a shittier version of the weapon I'm already using
>"Why does this only do 1d8 when the hammer I already have does 2d6?"
>"2D6! That's WAY OP! I should have never let you have that"
>Genies my weapon away
>Forces me to use the inferior weapon, and never lets me add my strength mod to any rolls with it because I'd do "too much damage"
>Meanwhile our rogue is a fucking crit-machine and ends most combat encounters in 3 seconds
>>43973788
Bones are enchanted not to break as long as they stay in the coffin.
There you go
>>43973912
This sounds like a knives and swords fag.
Seriously, I've run into too many weeb DMs who just hate blunt weapons because they're not "cool enough."
>>43973912
2d6? What!?
He shouldn't let you have that in the first place.
Good thing he came to his senses, there are few thing as damaging to a game as OP special snowflake weeaboo fightan magic characters shitting up things as badly as this.
In before "b-but the rouge does critical damage all the time!", that's just what rouges do, no need to bitch about it. If you wanted to be that effective, you could have rolled a rouge.
>>43974081
Rouges are terrible shade of red.
Play a rogue.
>>43974081
Are you like 14 or?
>>43973912
What system?
I love my balls clean off if it's D&D.
>>43974226
D&D 5e. I was using a Maul
>>43974226
I will laugh*
Jesus christ I should wake up properly before posting.
>>43974189
>>43974189
Or what? Do you have anything that would contribute to the thread?
>>43974282
Let's be fair, anon. You illustrated a very conceivably real response from a that guy.
>>43970711
Maybe he thinks it's too edgy? I disagree, this seems like edgy done right.
>>43974241
Oh my god.
Fuck son, I'm dying.
Please open the player's handbook to page 149 and just rub it all over your GM's face.
>Forces me to use the inferior weapon, and never lets me add my strength mod to any rolls with it because I'd do "too much damage"
Fuck it, rub page 176 (Attack Rolls and Damage) all over his face while you're at it as well.
Did this guy not get the memo that two handed weapons and builds based around two handed weapons are designed to do a shit load of fucking damage?
>Meanwhile our rogue is a fucking crit-machine and ends most combat encounters in 3 seconds
>Rogue ending encounters on his own
Holy shit.
Okay I don't think this guy is targeting you in particular, but he is really fucking bad at designing encounters.
>>43973162
it just makes no sense. Why the hell would you wield a coffin? especially your own wife's? I think it would make some sense as like, a vampire barbarian that uses improvised weapons, but his concept makes no sense, and feels like a completely troll character
>>43974246
For a minute I thought you might have been a transsexual Taiwanese prostitute offering to love yourself on camera.
Then I remembered I was on /tg/ and not /b/.
>>43970711
Sounds like some stupid anime bullshit that only appeals to 14 year olds.
>>43974429
Mfw you forget about rule zero.
Sometimes you have to adjust things a bit in a game to make it balanced. Certain classes could be game-breakingly strong otherwise.
>>43974429
Not that anon, but I've actually met 3.PF DMs who were dead convinced that, in D&D 3.5 and Pathfinder, melee classes were overpowered, casters were underpowered, and damage numbers were the be-all, end-all of combat effectiveness. In D&D 3.5 and Pathfinder.
>>43974442
Well... he's a little off his rocker and not entirely to terms with his loss. This was explained to the GM, but I guess I sort of glanced over it until >>43973558 brought it up. Dude was intended to have zero charisma and generally appear to be talking to himself all the time to anyone who didn't know him.
I'm not sure why a vampire wielding a coffin is any better, sounds cartoonishly cliche. Or Shadow Hearts, I haven't played it but I know it has a vampire that swings a mail box.
>>43974567
If the Rogue is ending encounters on his own, then fuck the Barbarian; a hip-fired fart could break his game.
>>43974607
>Dude was intended to have zero charisma and generally appear to be talking to himself all the time to anyone who didn't know him.
NIGGA YOU ACTIVATED MY RED FLAG LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER
Antisocial PCs in RPGs are the fucking worst. You're playing with others you jackass.
>>43974784
>anyone who didn't know him.
>didn't know him
>implying having low charisma character means he doesn't want to interact
Getting real aggressive over a concept, m8.
>>43974584
As have I. They also believed Bonus Feats counted as a Class Feature and were as good as gold.
>>43974607
my reasoning was that it makes more sense for some big dumb barbarian who got bit and became a vampire to just be lugging his coffin around and just use it to fight because, well... its there.
For a priest to use his dead wife's seems just odd. Like, wouldn't someone have stopped him from taking it? Wouldn't his wife come back to haunt him? Even if he isnt to terms with his loss, he wouldn't desecrate his loved one. The vampire makes sense because its an object tied to him, whereas your character is using essentially the body of his wife. Its like running around throwing your grandma's ashes in peoples' faces as your main attack and expecting it to not seem dumb.
>>43974784
Not literally zero, calm down. Just a low enough charisma to have poor negotiation skills beyond intimidate, and generally be regarded as that crochety old man. He's not going around belching into baby carriages and telling everyone to fuck off.
>>43974429
At one point in the campaign he literally broke down crying because our sorcerer casted confusion during an encounter that was supposed to kill us (15 trolls)
He forgot that the trolls had to roll saves every time they took damage, and at the end of every turn, so he had them all wander off a cliff or something.
When we got to the next town, he had our sorcerer contract herpes from the beds we were using, and gave him a permanent -5 to CHA in order to nerf him.
When he finally decided to nerf the Rogue, he made one of his daggers get cursed so he had to wield it with two hands. As if that would make a fucking difference.
The rogue figured out that, so long as enemies were within 30 feet, he'd score an autocrit with a ranged weapon, and if he was hidden, he'd get one more, and if the enemy was already in combat, but hadn't attacked yet, he'd get one, and our cleric had a spell that could make his rolls an autocrit, so combine all that, plus his 1d20 greatbow, and he'd deal about 150-200 damage at least once per encounter
>>43970711
anybody have that motivational poster of that paladin or fighter or whatever kneeling with a sword with his ghostly wife hovering in the background?
I have it somewhere in this folder of mine, but goddamn that's like 3 gigs of pictures to sort through.
If it helps, I think it was also a motivational poster that said something about fighting for something you've already lost.
>>43975029
Nevermind, the fates have thrown it my way.
>>43974914
He carries his wife around because he misses her, and his whole non-bashing things moveset revolves around channelling her and doing spooky shit. She absolutely haunts the shit out of him, it's not in an antagonistic way. He never got over her and he's an aging, mildly derranged husk of a man with big arms. I'm not sure what's so difficult to swallow here.
>>43974988
>That entire post
I...
...Why are you playing his games?
>>43971021
You sound like a shit dm would you also disallow a background that has trained with a family heirloom for years?
>>43970831
Do you also make other weapons roll to break? Because if not you have no reason to do that for this one unless it is to enhance the story
>>43971049
Other weapons are impractical too like a Nunchaku so that is a bad reason
>>43970711
As long as the rules support it and it fits the theme of the game I would say go ahead, if any of the other issues people are bitching about cropped up a good dm would talk to you about the issue
>>43974988
Oh dear god, whatever you do, don't use something like Second wind or something as drastic as 'hitting the enemy.'
You might cause him to break apart into little babby tears.
Why the FUCK is he dming?
>>43975325
I had a dm get mad at me well playing shadow run because I liberaly used grenades against his pet faction that used numbers to fight
He solved his anger issues by giving a sniper the best sniper rifle in the game and attacked at a range beyond the scope of the fight we were in needless to say I checked out after that
Shit gms do exist unfortunately
>>43975325
>>43975086
This was the first campaign I had ever played in, and it was his first time DMing ever.
He was the only person in our group who had ever played D&D, however he had only ever played 3.5, but insisted on starting his first campaign in 5.
It was a learning experience for all of us.
>>43975434
I can imagine.
>>43975406
Did you tell him if he wanted to make a story in which he always wins, that there's a medium for that called "Creative writing?"
He doesn't even need players, all he needs is an ego and a donation button that'll never be clicked by anyone of sound mind.
>>43975406
Reminds me of a DnD game where I played an alchemist. I shoved all of my bottles of alchemist's fire into a giant satchel charge. We got attacked by a pirate boat and I threw it at the boat from boarding range (about 10 feet)
I mean, it's a boat. I even rolled to hit just for giggles, and got a total of 23.
He told me that it missed. Other players called him out on his bullshit, he changed it so that it landed "somewhere not vital" and blew a hole in it but that the pirate ship was still going.
>There was over 100d6 damage worth ofalchemist fires in that bag.
>>43970711
So, the bbeg was a widowed high strength priest? Why was he going around killing other people's wives? Did he just want someone who was going through the same thing he was, and couldn't find a support group?
>>43971003
>>43970711
What probably happened, genius, is you made something overpowered and the GM said no because, holy shit, it was overpowered.
If you're new to the system you should trust that the GM knows how the fuck it works and that whatever you scribbled up was a bad idea.
>>43975434
I can personally relate to that, I guess. I started a game two Saturdays ago as a home brewed warforged fighter using the wizards recommended errata since Crusader isn't a thing anymore. I started to do what I typically did which was get oversized weapon fighting.
>That feat doesn't exist anymore.
Oh, Okay. That's fine, I'll just get great weapon and one hand it, I'll take the -4 str penalty easily for what I'll be swinging around. The tower shield will do just fine for deflection anyw...
>You can't do that anymore.
Fuck, Okay... Bastard swo...
>Doesn't exist
FUCK. Okay, longsword then. At least I still have a to
>Doesn't exist.
Goddamn, did they leave me ANYTHING?
>Yeah, you can now heal yourself once per short rest, and you don't need a healer to fully recoup.
Oh.. Well, that's a thing I guess.
We're playing a module just to warm up. I find out doing the big damn heros about how Kobalds have a fucking ability that allows them to fucking reroll d20s. I learn the hard way about advantage/disadvantage.I learned the hard way that charging no longer works. I also learned that I've played crusader WAY too much in 3.5, and damage is now a BAD thing.
I still had fun and it all worked out okay as I saved a mother and her family from about eight kobalds using superior tactics after the warlock got within spell casting range and laid down some Eldritch blasts, but 5e is way fucking different. It's a good different, of course, but still sent me for a loop.
>>43970711
Your idea sounds like that Faust guy from Shaman King, but with the autophobic "fuck you nerds!" hate-on that all fa/tg/uys tend to have for some reason.
>>43970711
Should have classed your character as Necromancer and you upgrade the coffin with materials instead of buying them.
>>43975540
No, the bbeg killed the wife, character is just a pc. A comma was missed in that description.
>>43975547
No, genius, you're jumping to conclusions. GM was also new to the system, the pc who's house we were at brought out the books. Character never had his stats rolled, he was just going to be a priest with emphasis on strength so he could use said weapon. Literally nothing in his design broke any rules and the host vouched for it.
>>43975929
Sounds like you need a new gm then
Or your current one needs to read the book better
>>43975606
People keep saying Shaman King. I see a kid with headphones, a sword, and a samurai ghost. Yeah, I can't pretend not to see the comparison but I honestly got a lot of my inspiration from Father Gascoigne.
>>43975083
the fact that he beats the shit out of people with his wife's coffin, while claiming to not be a completely raving lunatic that wouldnt be attacked on sight by city guard
better way to do this: Oracle who venerates spirits, had a wife who was a cleric and used the favorite weapon of their deity. After her death, he picked up her weapon, and refuses to use anything else as a respect for her.
>>43976029
I'm not saying you're wrong, but it feels pretty nitpicky.
>>43976103
it just feels like your idea is more of a "lolsorandom" thing than an actual serious character concept. Like, if this character ever existed in a non-comedy novel, everyone reading it would go "wait what the fuck" and re-read it like 6 times, then go google it to make sure it isnt a typo. It isn't a very good idea for a serious character (not that the vampire barbarian is either, but its still more believable)
>>43970711
That's Faust from Shaman King you fucking weeb
>>43976023
Faust VIII is a character in Shaman King. He's similar to your guy, but instead of being a strongman priest, he's a necromancer and a doctor. He uses his wife's skeleton (which is in turn animated and strengthened by her ghost) as his "minion". Sought and managed to cure her of a fatal congenital disease when she was alive, then she got shot in the head and he turned to necromancy. Seeks to bring her back. Similar in attitude to your guy, but as a dedicated academic-turned-master of dark and occult forces (read: nerd).
Pic related's the coolest picture of him I could find, and that's from the manga. The anime has him noticeably scrawnier and prettier. Also more gothy.
So I'm playing Shadowrun (4e) a few years back. Roll up a big shooty troll. GM is constantly wanking about orks, says that trolls are "too hard" to roll up. Tough, I did it anyways.
Get in a firefight. I see that all smartlinkd guns have cameras, and hey, I've got a smartgun link and an Ares Alpha. And hey, here's rules specifically for firing around corners. Sweet, go grab some cover and
> You can't do that.
Well, why not?
> Cause that's game breaking. I'll allow firing around corners with a huge penalty, but doing it on a setting higher than semi-auto is an automatic breaking of the firer's wrist.
Okay then. Time to knock some fools out. I'll load up this here clip of stick'n'shock and
> Stick'n'shock doesn't exist, electricity damage is game breaking. It's gel rounds or nothing.
Okay then. We'll get to the cabin we're trying to reach, fight our way inside, and oh look, there's enemies out back. I'll fire through the window.
> You press your gun barrel right up against the window, even though you didn't tell me you were doing that, and discover that the window's bulletproof glass. Your Alpha breaks permanently.
Son of a bitch.
> Here, try a replacement from an event that's a deliberately broken rifle that jams every time you fire it and costs all your nuyen. Because it's funny.
mfw...
>>43975434
Your DM sounds like a dick who can't handle adversity, even though he's not supposed to "win". Roll up a half-assedly specced druid and see how he feels then.
>>43976023
>>43976152
>being Faust
>not being Brandon Heat
Losers
>>43976183
That actually looks pretty cool, how the fuck did that turn into this?
>>43976265
This is a lot closer to what I had in mind. Father Gascoigne was where I got most of the visual inspiration and it took place in a Victorian setting anyway.
>>43976409
I said it was from the manga, but turns out it's fanart. I didn't realize at the time I posted because I took it from google andI've never read or watched the series in any media format.
>>43976458
We're in the same boat then. That's actually pretty disappointing, the premise sounds cool but that art style is pretty crap.
>>43971124
Why not an urn-mace?
A mace with an empty "head" where the ashes of his wife rest.
When he wants to do some hardcore channeling, he opens the urn and ghastly will of wisps come out.
>>43976409
Because it's a fucking shounen
Never trust shounens
>>43973174
So you can't read or you're autismal as all the shit in the world because the context made perfectly clear what he meant.
>>43970711
That is literally somebody's power in D. Gray-Man. It wasn't terribly interesting there, either.
Honestly that sounds a little too anime for my campaign, I wouldn't allow it either.
>>43976734
You know, a few years back, one of Japan's leading causes of death in males was "karoushi", which literally means "death from overwork".
Shounen, with it's focus on the male mc working for others, using the edgy "forbidden technique" that poses a risk to his own health as a form of self-sacrifice, along with that fact and the salaryman corporate culture makes for a very disturbing picture.
I don't know how all of you people didn't tell your GMs to fuck off after the second instance of them fucking with you
>>43974584
Usually they're the first people to accuse you of cheating if you do well as a spellcaster.
>Join a Pathfinder game at a store
>List of banned/restricted stuff is shit
>Type of guy who thinks martials are overpowered, highly scrutinizes every PC that's martial.
>I shrug and roll a Wizard. DM gives no shit, keeps glaring at martial PCs everytime they do more than single digit damage.
>Meanwhile I'm sitting back basically ending every encounter the second it's my turn and solving virtually every non-combat problem we run into
>DM says nothing for a while until he has the BBEG show up to gloat at us.
>BBEG is a Fighter with a bunch of magic items designed to make him incredibly hard for other martials to deal with him. DM gets smug because he thinks he's totally invincible.
>Attacks us to "show us our place" or some shit. I roll last for initiative. He actually is a problem for the martial guys, wrecking their shit.
>Admittedly, I was only half-paying attention at this point, distracted by an incredibly interesting patch of drying paint.
>It comes to my turn, I forget it's the BBEG we're fighting and just throw a Save-or-Suck spell at him.
>He gets rendered helpless while our Rogue starts stealing his epic magic items.
>DM red in the face and accuses me of cheating. Tells me to get the fuck out when I bring up the spell in the core rules(Black Tentacles or Blindness/Deafness I think it was).
>Overhear DM a few weeks later still insisting martials are OP and casters suck, and only cheaters make casters good. Then mentions how he showed some caster player his place(referring to me, I was later told he "retconned" that session and had his bad guy instakill my character)
>Later hear a slam, and some guys dragging the DM away, who's yelling incoherently.
>Apparently someone else played a caster and trivialized yet another encounter the DM made. DM literally threw a rulebook at him and missed.
>DM is no longer allowed at the store.
>>43976183
>Sought and managed to cure her of a fatal congenital disease when she was alive, then she got shot in the head
That's actually hilarious.
>>43976941
>DM literally threw a rulebook at him and missed.
I loled
>>43976941
I wish I could've been there to drink his tears.
>>43970711
Make him a gestapo leader plus a vampire and you should be allowed to man.
>>43970711
What kind of anime bullshit is this?
If you need zany nonsense like this to make your character 'compelling', you're shit at writing.
>>43979240
>I hate fun
>>43979249
>swinging a man-sized wooden box with some bones in it around as a weapon because lolsorandumb
>fun
I could make a character based around the concept of weaponizing a turd on a stick. That doesn't make it either good or fun, you drooling man-child. Get some standards, yeah?
>>43979284
nah sounds like you need to lighten up
>>43979313
How about a compromise?
You stick to weeb games full of retarded manchildren trying to outdo each other with zany, 'original' character concepts, and I'll stick to decent games with players who can at least spell the word 'subtlety'.
And never the twain shall meet.
>>43970711
Unless my group was playing a particularly zany game (ran a campaign once where one of the characters wielded a bathtub, good fun) I would probably disallow this too.
It's not that it's overpowered, it's just that I can't take the concept at all seriously. Wielding a coffin as a weapon of any sort has so many practicality issues that I'm not even sure where to begin. An urn-mace or something would be fine, bit a single man carrying a coffin around by himself would require permanent magical turbostrength, and then there's just the question of why he doesn't just carry the coffin on his back or something and swing around a weapon actually designed to be swung around. It accomplishes essentially the same thing, fluff-wise.
>>43970947
I always hated that statement.
Why would a character being unique be a bad thing?
Granted, it doesn't make it a good character on its own, but not everyone wants to play a standard rank and file soldier.
>>43970711
Would you be able to pick a background for your deceased spouse and have that effect what abilities you have? Maybe your dead wife was a whiz in the kitchen, and you can draw an ability to manipulate heat/fire?
>>43979333
I'm not the anon you're replying to, but..
I wouldn't want to share the same cyberspace with you for even a second anyway.
It really sounds as if you have anger management problems. And I won't even start on your no-fun-allowed policy.
>>43976941
I had a similar experience with a friend's PF game, except it was at his house, and he didn't so much accuse me of cheating as go "wait, really?" and he didn't kick me out of the game and instead listened as I explained to him how PF was completely broken in the opposite direction and how melee was grossly underpowered and I completely broke his game with a sorcerer that wasn't even optimized because casters are just that overpowered if you focus on control and save-or-suck instead of damage, and he didn't rage later so much as change his mind about PF casters like a reasonable human being.
Actually my experience wasn't that similar at all, and much more boring.
I'm glad my friend is reasonable.
>>43970798
A real man crafts a sword out of his dead wife's spine.
A real woman crafts a dildo out of the same.
>>43976265
animu poses like this trigger me
Fucker looks like he shit his pants and he's not sure what to do next.
>>43979819
>>43979744
>A real woman crafts dildos out of her dead wife's spine
Sounds like Paizo tier writing there
>>43979724
Not liking retarded character concepts built around a moronic gimmick that makes no sense from literally any point of view doesn't mean he doesn't like fun, it just means he doesn't like retarded character concepts built around a moronic gimmick that makes no sense from literally any point of view. I don't usually tell people they're playing pretend wrong, but really, there's no reason to play such a stupid concept unless everyone has agreed that they're making characters with zero thought behind them.
>I miss my dead wife
>Better haul around 40-100 kilos of literal dead weight
>I know! I'll smash my dead wife to bits because I love her!
>Wow, who knew trying to swing something as big and heavy as me with nowhere to hold it would be impractical?
>I better act like a complete nutjob while I'm desecrating the dead, wouldn't want people to think I'm some kind of priest.
>Oh wait
>>43979884
You must be new here, I take it?
>>43979895
>false equivalency.jpeg
>>43979907
denial.txt
>>43979884
That is almost all complaining about thematics which very from game to game the ops dm vetoed on it being "overpowered" it is clearly no more op then a normal codzilla. And thematics very on the game you are playing there is nothing wrong with playing anime characters in a game where they fit the theme.
>>43979918
Somewhat unrealistic doesn't necessarily equate to "anime." It's funny how people are willing to suspend their disbelief when it comes to magic and elves but not when it comes to a weirdo hitting smashing shit with a box.
>>43980916
I'm getting real fucking sick of this mindset. Just because the setting is fantastical doesn't give you license to do dumb shit. Magic and elves are presented as a part of the setting; within that setting they are normal and in compliance with the world's internal laws. If you had a setting where grognards wielding impractically oversized boxes were part of the world, no one would bat an eye if you chose to play such a character. Since you are most definitely not playing in such a setting, playing a schizophrenic wielding a box the same size as him is quite outside the internal laws of the setting, and as such you're being justly ridiculed.
>>43981081
You sound like you've been not invited to a lot of different things.
>>43981081
>grognards wielding impractically oversized boxes
For a start you're misusing a word just for the purposes of using it as an insult because you don't like thing, but let's instead talk about practicality, because that's the only point in your post that comes anywhere near a point that isn't "I don't like thing."
Everyone runs sword and shield, because not having a shield when the other guy does is objectively an enormous disadvantage, except for the spellcasters and archers, who engage from maximum distance and start to fall back the moment anyone gets within 100 feet of them. All conflicts are decided by range, flexibility and maneuverability, and every society is run by a magocracy because casters reign supreme both on and off the battlefield.
Because that is what is most practical in this setting.
You are a fucking boring person that got bootyblasted that someone has an idea you don't like, and rather than give any reasonable suggestions or ask reasonable questions (like "how are you going to stop the coffin from smashing itself the fuck apart" or "how are the bones going to survive this shit") you just insult the shit out of him for the sake of... what, exactly?
Probably because OP's idea, as really out there as it is, was better than the kind of shit you had in mind.
>>43981209
here's your reply
>>43981380
OP's idea was so stupid it got canned instantly. As it would by almost any dm running a semi serious game. If you want jokey troll characters be sure it's a campaign that supports them
>>43970711
>comes with a Mary Sue that doesn't fit into the setting, and has tons of homemade rules he made up, all of them probably overpowered as hell
You are That Guy, OP. I have no pity for you.
>>43981426
>If you want jokey troll characters
We get it, you don't like thing.
Come back when you have something to contribute.
>>43981446
>he didn't read the thread
>>43981476
As if your shitposting was contributing in any way, shape, or form.
>>43981494
OP is that guy. He is the kind of person a competent dm ejects from the table preemptive lye before he comes back with more garbage
>>43981476
>>43981380
>>43981209
>the weeb defence squad arrives
>>43981671
I made suggestions to concept, kid.
You just called it shit, and got defensive when somebody else told you to fuck off with your negativity.
But you're in full damage control, so of course you're resorting to projection. Can't take being told you're wrong.
>>43981700
Do try to remember what website you're on.
>>43981694
How? It's stated earlier in the thread that the character concept doesn't break any mechanics of the system the character was rolled into. The only questionable decision here is the character's headspace assuming he had the appropriate stats to use the weapon, and crazier wizards are rolled up every day.
>>43971110
That sounds like Unhallowed Metropolis.
>>43970711
He's just going to steal your idea and use it as an NPC.
>>43976721
This is a underrated post, and just and seems like a better option both mechanically and in playability. Yeah a giant weapon sounds cool but not as a coffin.
>>43979734
And then you never played that broken pathetic excuse of a system again and moved onto a better system right?Or more likely re balanced everything like I did before 5e.
>>43979333
>NO, I'M MORE MATURER!
>>43970711
OP that shit's dumb. Go invent a more realistic bat shit insane concept for your character or why not just drag the coffin around and/or have the ghost waifu power theme?
You can't bash people with coffins unless you're a giant troll or it's a child's coffin.
Or just be a werewolf already!
>>43970711
Can we just pause for a moment to appreciate how much that bear looks like Uncle Vernon?
