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So how good is Farsight at sword fighting fluff-wise anyway ?
Did he ever duel any named character ?
He's a tau. He's shit by default
>>43966322
Its 40k, there is no consistency. He'd beat a Musketeer-inspired Keeper of Secrets using a whole Bloodthirster as a sword in one source, then lose to a Cultist with a toothpick in another.
>>43966322
Farsight trained himself in the style of the swordmaster Aun'shi.
Farsight killed many of marines in melee, killed Grog Irontoof, and managed to duel the Swarmlord to a standstill.
>>43966480
>>43966536
>GW: Consistency? What's that?
>>43966536
BIO-HERESY!
>>43966322
What I wanna know is if they have ever finally confirmed the origin of his magic sword
>>43966573
Heavily implied to be connected to Chaos.
There is a prophecy about the sword. However, holds it is destined to become a monster.
>>43966604
So nothing new in 8 years then. got it.
>>43966604
Bitch please.
>>43966604
Whoever holds it*
derp
>>43966632
>necrons
>prophecy
>necrons
>life extension
Nah, brah.
>>43966604
>>43966627
Well GW just created the perfect scenario to make this a reality with their last campaign.
If Farsight doesn't go Horus on the Tau Empire trying to kill off the Ethereals, then someone at GW needs to be fired for incompetency.
>>43966699
Necrons had shit short life spans, blade steals the life force of whoever it kills and adds it onto the wielder.
Yeh, brah.
>>43966536
>Farsight managed to duel the Swarmlord to a standstill.
You can't be serious.
This is worse than Vlad Von Carstein killing Harald Hammerstorm.
>>43966811
Like every Tau, Farsight is as strong as he needs to be to survive. It's all for the sake of the inevitable conclusion where he is corrupted by the blade.
Which GW should get to writing some point in the next epoch.
>>43966847
Sure, but it's stupid that Farsight ever got into melee with it, let alone fought it to a draw. Even if the Swarmlord is tying up all your combat units with an over saturation of of targets of all sizes, it's still stupid and Farsight shouldn't have stood a chance.
Farsight has never lost in stories, has he? I ask because other characters from other armies can lose battles but they still get to keep campaigning. Even Marneus Calgar.
>>43967006
The Tau cannot lose, because if they lose once they will never stop losing, and with how pathetically small they are compared to even the fucking KROOT, a handful of losses would be the end of their Empire.
>>43966721
>If Farsight doesn't go Horus on the Tau Empire trying to kill off the Ethereals, then someone at GW needs to be fired for incompetency.
This would be awesome. I love the Tau, but they suffer from a significant lack of "Grim Darkness of the 41st Millennium"
Farsight has always been my favorite Tau character due to his inevitable fall
>>43966721
Oh yes, the great Farsight Heresy that broke the glorious Tau Empire of three hundred worlds.
In any other setting, this is either par the course or kinda impressive, it might even rival Battletech. But not in 40k.
>>43967140
They can lose against enemies that aren't out to exterminate them. One of my favorite stories from 40K is the Dark Eldar abusing the naivety of the Tau. That kind of story would never be written today.
>>43967006
The Swarmlord was defeated by Calgar and Yriel in combat. It ain't shit. Stop being a melodramatic baby for the sake of being a melodramatic baby.
>>43967535
I had a box of graham crackers.
Then I used them to make the crust of a huge motherfucking cheese cake.
So now I don't have any Graham crackers to snack on.
You monster.
>>43966847
In the end, he will UN corrupt the sword, and bring its dark soul LIGHT!
>>43967629
Nah, Fromsoft will be requested to make a 40k Tau game, and then when you kill the secret boss Farsight you get his blade, but then you do a secret thing in a secret room inside of another secret room, it awakens into the Moonlight Greatsword, because Fromsoft loves that thing, it's been in every single one of their games.
>>43967629
Tau is my favorite faction in 40k and even I think that is some Grade A Faggotry
>>43967629
>In the end, he will UN corrupt the sword
He'll corrupt the sword in the style of the United Nations?
>>43967535
Those characters actually stood a chance with their skill and equipment, even if they might be more likely to lose. Farsight is outclassed in every way in melee against the Swarmlord.
Also this >>43967629 will happen because Farsight never loses.
>>43967673
And then you use it to fight a Nineball Tau Battlesuit
>>43967703
Farsight is 300 years old warrior, with sophisticated combat suit, and a powerful relic sword.
You are simply a moron.
>>43967725
So it's a shitty Nineball? When do we get to fight the non-shitty Nineball? And then when do we get assraped by Nineball Seraph?
>>43967703
>even if they might be more likely to lose.
Calgar outclasses the Swarmlord in every level.
>>43967703
>I forgot how magic swords work
>>43967725
Regular, AC / NEXT / Whatever the fuck they are called make the most advanced Tau hardware look like children playing with dry clay.
Then again, Armored Core tech in general makes everything in 40k look like it was made by half-retarded newborns.
>>43967629
Dante please
>>43967755
Never, instead you have to fightUltimate Zinaida
>>43967807
You guys are missing the point of the Tau in general.
Tau are the equivalent of humanity when humanity was the size of the Tau Empire.
Their collective consciousness too small for the warp monsters to target and eat them. Too small for most factions to worry about. Some odd things going on that can't be fully explained (emperor has conflicting reports onto the nature of what he is, some with Farsight).
Eldar ruled the galaxy, and wasn't worried about humanity at that point. The Eldar were maxing out their potential. Just like humanity is in the current setting.
Tau are the next race coming in to replace humanity in the next few 10,000 years. They'll be the ones who worship whatever the etheral become when they fuse together or whatever, making them the emperor equivalent, and when Farsight is corrupted and becomes the Horus equivalent. Or maybe it doesn't involve them at all, they may be long dead before those events transpire.
Humanity's future would've seemed just as bleak as the Tau's currently does. Yet they managed to get ahead. You think humanity's reign will last forever?
>>43967916
>You think humanity's reign will last forever?
You honestly had to ask that when the setting is written by and for humans without a hateboner for their own species?
>>43967738
He's also a melee oriented Tau.
>>43967786
That sword is easily one of the weakest magic/relic swords. Nowhere good enough to give him a chance against any other melee master from other armies.
>>43967768
I really don't know why you'd think that.
>>43967916
Humanity's reign will not last forever, but the galaxy will die when it ends.
Whether it's the Tyranids leaving it behind in their ravenous hunger, Chaos growing and everything being fucked, the C'tan getting their shit together, the Orks making the Galizee Krumpa, the 'Crons getting tired of everyone's shit, the Eldar fucking things up; again, or any number of reasons.
The Tau die in their infancy as an Empire.
>>43967954
>That sword is easily one of the weakest magic/relic swords. Nowhere good enough to give him a chance against any other melee master from other armies.
TT =/= fluff.
Farsight fluffwise can defeat the Swarmlord and there is nothing indicating otherwise.
>I really don't know why you'd think that.
The fluff. You have to be trolling because nothing in the fluff portrays the Swarmlord was anything great. Calgar was clearly shown to be superior to the Swarmlord in combat.
>>43967916
>Just like humanity is in the current setting.
Humanity is well past it's golden age at this point. They're the same as the Eldar, they just don't like to admit it.
>>43966806
>Necrons had shit short life spans
Which they couldn't fix, so no.
The life extension alone means it cannot be Necron.
>>43968119
>Calgar was clearly shown to be superior to the Swarmlord in combat.
Getting your arms cut off isn't a sign of being superior to your opponent in combat.
>TT =/= fluff.
okay, but this >>43967738 is something any Space Marine Captain could be attributed with. The Captains are also about as rare as Farsight, considering the size of the Imperium.
I could accept Farsight being the only Tau that could match a Captain in melee. Heck, he could fight a Necron Overlord. But the Swarmlord can beat them and everyone else. The Swarmlord is a match for enemies far greater than Farsight.
But at least Farsight didn't defeat the Swarmlord, so it's not as bad as it could be.
>>43968253
It could be C'tan.
>>43968253
Yeah, I'm sure a single sword that relies in murder is going to change much.
I don't mind Farsight beating the Swarmlord, whatever, right?. I would be mad if he beat Dante or Calgar though.
>>43968485
It is not related to C'tan in anyway.
>>43968503
It would change everything.
Lordly Necrontyr don't give a shit about their servants. Kill one every twenty years or so to live forever would not even been a question.
>>43967940
Yes yes, in real life, actual humanity will forget about this setting and all this will be moot when actual nuclear war kills us all. whatever. The point is the Tau are written with an implication.
>>43967974
I disagree.
>Tyranids leaving it behind in their ravenous hunger
Not a logical specie. They don't have a plan to wipe out the galaxy. only to eat it as they pass. Humanity is large enough that the Tyranid could destroy them. The Tau are small enough to rally and become a turtle as the swarm passes though, destroying most everything else.
>Chaos growing
Chaos can't exist without order. Chaos won't destroy itself by becoming singular. Chaos comes from mortal thoughts and emotions. As humanity dies off, Chaos, too, will weak and wither until the Tau reach the same numbers and feed the chaos instead of humanity.
>C'tan getting their shit together
Eh, If robot skeletons can enslave them, they probably aren't that hard to control for whatever the next power that comes along.
>the Orks making the Galizee Krumpa
never happen. Orcs will just fight and kill themselves.
>the 'Crons getting tired of everyone's shit
As if this wasn't the case? Crons are tiny and can't get their shit together. They might last as long as the Tau, but they won't be anything more than they are now.
>the Eldar fucking things up
Eldar are on their way out. They desperately cling to existence, but the eldar are what humanity will be, and what the Tau will be eventually as well, as they're replaced by...whatever...rational poop monsters or something.
>>43968119
Be careful anon, the blue xeno jizz is going straight to your brains.
>>43968482
>Getting your arms cut off isn't a sign of being superior to your opponent in combat.
On Maccrage, The Swarmlord and his Tyrant Guard fought Calgar alone. Despite being outnumbered, Calgar gave the Swarmlord and his bodyguards a hell of a time.
On Ichar IV, Calgar and the Swarmlord faced each other in a true 1v1. Calgar ripped the Swarmlord apart.
>But the Swarmlord can beat them and everyone else.
There is nothing in the fluff that indicates that the Sawrmlord is a superior fight. He constantly gets thrashed and he has no notable duel victories in his record.
>>43968253
Necrons made a lot of advancements after they contacted the C'tan.
Also, the sword was found gripped by one of a bunch of statues that warded off/contained Warp influence. It is 100% not a Chaos artifact.
Considering that Necrons have mad Warp-suppressing game, are the only race with prolific time-manipulating tech (the sword steals time, not life), and are masters of the physical realm (the sword's properties are metallurgic, rather than Warp derived), it was almost certainly made by them.
>>43967738
>300 years old warrior, with sophisticated combat suit
Just like any Chapter Master, HQ and many Captains
>>43968584
Do you have half an idea on how tyranids work? Because I think you don't.
The Tau have, how many, a three hundred worlds empire? That's tasty. Hive fleets strip isolated worlds for breakfast, what makes you think they wouldn't notice, or stop for, a three hundred worlds civilization?
Also, Crons are tiny? Necrons could wipe out Imperium, Tau, Orks and the like without much trouble if only they began giving fucks. That's literally how they're written.
Really, you should accept that the Tau are and will remain a minor nuisance compared to the big boys of the galaxy. They are a minuscule civilization that can't even travel FTL. The only factions they could rival with in influence are Dark Eldar - which are literally untochable in their kingdom - and the craftworld Eldar - which unlike the Tau have vast knowledge of the universe and reality and the ability to make use of it, so despite being so few they will continue being a big player.
>>43968703
>Necrons made a lot of advancements after they contacted the C'tan.
But their immortality came at the cost of robot bodies.
>Also, the sword was found gripped by one of a bunch of statues that warded off/contained Warp influence. It is 100% not a Chaos artifact.
Pentagrammic wards repelled the Warp. Grey Knights use similar. It was on a world that glittered with the power of the warp. There was a giant Chaos dias.
There was undoubtedly warp-work going on.
>Considering that Necrons have mad Warp-suppressing game
It's limited at best. Their null field generators are huge and delicate machines, not small wards.
>are the only race with prolific time-manipulating tech (the sword steals time, not life)
They can manipulate time to a degree. They have never demonstrated the ability to "steal time."
>nd are masters of the physical realm (the sword's properties are metallurgic, rather than Warp derived)
It's made of a special alloy, how that alloy has its properties are never described.
>it was almost certainly made by them.
There is no chance whatsoever. It does not fit Necrons at all.
>>43968584
All your post is wrong.
>Chaos can't exist without order.
The fluff says it can. Chaos plan is to destroy all life, space, and time in the galaxy and rule forever.
Straight from the rulebooks.
>Eh, If robot skeletons can enslave them, they probably aren't that hard to control for whatever the next power that comes along.
No power in the galaxy can match the Necrons at their zenith. Not even in the Old Ones could do that.
>never happen. Orcs will just fight and kill themselves.
Happening according to the latest fluf from the Ork codex and Ghaz supplement
The Orks were the closet race in the galaxy to usurp the Imperial dominion over the galaxy (Beast Waaagh!),
>Crons are tiny and can't get their shit together.
The current numrous Necron dynasties are high times the size of the Tau Empire. There are as much Necrons in the galaxy as there are humans in it, perhaps even more.
They are rapidly awakening and uniting,
>>43968736
So there is no problem with him destroying something like a Swarmlord or an Avatar.
>>43968800
>not small wards.
Actually, FFG RPGs has Necron ankh amulets that produce a powerful null field.
Also it's stated that Necron technology is anathema to the daemons. In Grey Knight codex, Necron structures had a draining effect of daemons and psykers.
>>43968874
>FFG RPGs
>FFG
Oh boy.
>Also it's stated that Necron technology is anathema to the daemons.
It's stated that Daemons consider Necron stuff as just another flavor of reality to devour.
>>43968800
>It does not fit Necrons at all.
Let's see.
Properties of the Dawn Blade:
>special metal
>manipulates time
>repels Warp stuff
Properties of Necron tech:
>special metal
>manipulates time
>repels Warp stuff
>>43968938
Everyone has special metal.
Dawn Blade does not repel Chaos.
Necrons have never been demonstrated manipulating time in such a manner.
>>43968921
Daemons consider the sub-dimensions the Necrons conjurer up to be another flavor of reality to eat, not the Necron tech.
Anyways see below.
>One hundred and one years after its banishment on Antraxes, M’kachen returned to the material plane, seeking to fulfil its plans to kill Stern. Long had the Daemon plotted during its enforced exile, and it had carefully considered the best place to lay a trap for his mortal adversary. The Lord of Change chose the world of Sargotha, deep within the wilds of the Ghoul Stars, a cursed place avoided even by the Orks that plagued that region. The root cause of the shadow that hung over Sargotha lay within its countless obsidian pyramids, vast megalithic structures left behind by some forgotten xenos architect. More than mere physical structures, each one seemed to still the Warp around it and drink in psychic energy. M’kachen knew if he could lure Stern to Sargotha, it would rob the Grey Knight of much of his psychic power.
>However, the Lord of Change had to tread with care, for the same pyramids that would give him the advantage were anathema to Daemonkind. So it was that M’kachen possessed the body of an unwitting Cultist and used him as a vessel, before laying a trail of blood and death bearing the Daemon’s mark that would bring Stern right to him.
-7th ED Grey Knight codex
>>43968815
change "Swarmlord" to "Hive Tyrant" and there's no problem.
>>43968970
The Swarmlord has been portrayed as impressive.
Hive Tyrants even less so.
>>43968958
What about the metal the Necrons wear as cloak which is made outta crystallized time?
>>43968963
>Anyways see below.
I'm well aware of codex Grey Knights.
Notice the structures are described as "vast megalithic structures" not small wards.
We've already established that they have null-fields, but that they are large and delicate machines.
>>43969032
What about it?
>>43968993
Yes, a Hive Tyrant is half (or less) as difficult to defeat in melee than the Swarmlord. So Farsight defeating one isn't far-fetched.
>>43969046
Shadow Ankhs, doe.
>>43969088
Hive Tyrants are trivial even for generic Chapter Masters.
Any named warrior character can defeat the Swarmlord. He is that much of a weakling.
>>43969093
>FFG
Don't make me say it.
>>43969118
What about them spyder gloom prisms?
>>43969111
Okay, this has degraded enough to release me from this board and let me sleep.
Good night dahling.
>>43969169
Sweet dreams, honeybuns.
>>43967323
The grim dark part about Tau is that they're so tiny and have no idea how fucking awful the galaxy is.
>>43969223
Farsight knows.
The Ethereals know.
The little guys don't know.
The same can be said about the average joe in the galaxy.
>>43969165
Weak.
>>43969303
Says who?
>>43969316
Common sense.
Their range is not vast and unlike full null field generators have never shown to have the same effects on daemons.
>>43969353
They create a zone shrouded from warp spawned power around the spyders which should act about the same as the talismans.
>>43969395
Never shown the ability of the talismans.
They are also carried by huge metal spiders.
Not talismans.
>>43969461
>Gloom Prism: This green crystal, laced with arcane circuitry, creates an anti-psychic field that severs the connection of Daemons and psykers to the Warp.
Talismans disturbed psychic powers and daemons, gloom prisms does the same.
Just remove the crystal and circuity and wear it as a necklace and tada~
>>43969538
Nope, only spyders have been shown to be able to carry them.
And they've never demonstrated the power of the talismans, which were never described as crystals with circuitry.
>>43967738
The Swarmlord is billions of years old, every atom in it's body organised in the best way to kill and has FOUR powerful relic swords.
>>43969747
Yet it got defeated by Calgar and Yriel. Then later it was fought to a standstill by Farsight.
A century worth of battle experience and one relic weapon. That's all you need to bring that guy down.
>>43967401
uh, wasn't that like in the last Tau codex?>>43968485
The only thing backing the whole necron origins was that the blade looked somewhat like a necron weapon. But then there's the whole melee focus, red armor, 8- man bodyguard (Khrones # iirc), not to mention 4 planets in the Farsight enclave basically representing each Chaos god. The necron angle was cool but its never been anything more then fan fic.
>>43969747
Oh baby, tell me more.
>>43968958
>Necrons have never been demonstrated manipulating time in such a manner.
>Ignoring Orikan the Diviner
>Ignoring the Breath of the Gods which steals time to revitalize and destroy star systems.
Ignoring all of the other Necron shit which explicitly uses time to wreck things
I think it's pretty clear you know shit about Necron fluff. Or Farsight's for that matter, considering the Dawn Blade is pretty well-known to be an efficient anti-daemon weapon since the moment he bloody got his hands on it.
>>43969855
>red armor,
The color of his armor has nothing to do with Khorne. It's a honoring of all those who died on the Rust Planet, one of Farsight's major battles.
Khorne is not a god of rust.
>>43969887
It's you who don't know shit.
Dawn Blade is not anti daemon.
He covered it in the hex wards and threw it at the portal to close it, but the blade didn;t do it itself.
And neither Orikan or the Breath of the Gods demonstrated the ability to steal some one's time.
>>43969851
>Yriel
Never mentions the Swarmlord in that story
>Calgar
The score is 1-1 to the Swarmlord and that's taking into account Calgar's mad plot armour which the Swarmlord doesn't have the benefit of.
>>43969851
>Farsight
Can't comment about that although it might be that Farsight literally can't die until his sword runs out so it could be bat fighting the Swarmlorde to a standstill is him getting killed over and over until the Swarmlord starves to death
>>43970009
>Never mentions the Swarmlord in that story
The Swarmlord is mentioned.
>The score is 1-1 to the Swarmlord and that's taking into account Calgar's mad plot armour which the Swarmlord doesn't have the benefit of.
No, it isn't. The first fight was the Swarmlord and his gang of Tyrant Guard against Calgar alone.
The second fight was Calgar vs the Swarmlord in a true 1 v 1. Calgar handily defeated the Swarmlord.
>Can't comment about that although it might be that Farsight literally can't die until his sword runs out so it could be bat fighting the Swarmlorde to a standstill is him getting killed over and over until the Swarmlord starves to death
No.
It's mentioned that Farsight matched his sword with the Swarmlord's many swords. He fought him to a standstill using his skills.
The Swarmlord a shit,
>>43967535
Swarmlord gouged out Calgars eye and organs and took a limb or 2 off. Years later they duked it out again and Chapter Master came out on top
Yriel was some Eldar prince with an ancient cursed spear who stabbed it through the head, nothing else the Eldar had were scratching it
Farsight just wins cause GW fucking tongue punch the taus blue assholes
>>43967738
Swarmlord is the pinnacle of Tyranid evolution, THE hive tyrant, 4 Crackling energy pulsing bone sabres made from unknown crystalline substance that can instantly kill anything. He has 4 arms and one of the highest weapon skills in the galaxy. farsight should struggle with a 1 armed swarmlord
>>43970198
Calgar beat it to death with his bare hands.
>>43970198
>Swarmlord gouged out Calgars eye and organs and took a limb or 2 off. Years later they duked it out again and Chapter Master came out on top
The Swarmlord cannot take on Calgar alone.
He only won against Calgar because Calgar was alone and the Swarmlord dogpiled him with the Tyrant Guard.
There is nothing Calgar and Yriel possess that Farsight does not have. He meets all the prerequisites needed to whoop the Swarmlord. 100+ experience and a relic weapon.
>>43970257
Being in a giant mech suit would also help.
>>43970198
>Farsight just wins cause GW fucking tongue punch the taus blue assholes
To be honest it wouldn't surprise me if it becomes canon that every fire warrior has killed a Swarmlord, Daemon Prince and an Avatar with their bare hands
>>43970257
>>43970244
The swarmlord overpowered him easy and took his limbs.
The swarmlord reamed calgar and his honour guard. Plot armour is the only thing that saved him. Also the swarmlord reams him in the table top as well. Calgar aint shit.
>>43967535
Except that was never stated to be the swarmlord that Yriel stabbed. Just a hive tyrant.
>>43970466
Nope. Calgar fought against the Swarmlord and all it's personal swarm alone.
It was then driven back by the honourguard.
When they actually fought one on one Calgar beat it to death with his bare hands.
>>43966806
To my knowledge (and this is from about 3rd/4th ed, when I was a wee-jimmy that loved space-zombies) the Necrons made a deal wit hthe C'Tan to allow them to extend their pathetically short lifespan to nae-immortal by giving them robotic bodies, but the C'Tan never mentioned that the process would make them mindless slaves in the process.
Nothing about that involves life-force draining blades.
>>43970466
This is the opposite of what's written in the fluff.
>>43968958
Yeah they do. One of their special characters time travels all the time. In that Imperial Armour there was a Cryptek to tried to destroy time itself.
>>43970611
>Yeah they do.
No they don't.
> One of their special characters time travels all the time. In that Imperial Armour there was a Cryptek to tried to destroy time itself.
Wow, neither things being stealing time.
>>43970611
>>43970656
and here i figured it was one of vauls 100 blades cause it looked like an eldar sword.
>>43970742
Way to big for an Eldar sword.
Or Necron.
>>43970760
then why does it look like one of the blades a howling banshee has.
also, why would blade size matter to a eldar god
>>43970742
No, anon, making it out that it's one of the swords Vaul gifted to Khaine and then Khaine used to battle in the war in heaven and the rage of Khaine was poisoning Farsight would be a compelling and interesting story arc!
Instead it must be "ITS A DEEMUN OF KAYOSS!" or "ITS NECK RONS!"
>>43970742
"Anaris : The Sword of Dawnlight"
"Dawn Blade"
It might be.
>>43970760
Unless it was crafted for a god or demigod.
>>43970786
>then why does it look like one of the blades a howling banshee has.
It's a sword. But it doesn't.
>also, why would blade size matter to a eldar god
>>43970808
>Unless it was crafted for a god or demigod.
They were wielded by mortal Eldar for the most part.
>>43970792
>>43970808
check out what i found on forgeworld.
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Eldar-Phantom-Titan-Power-Glaive
>>43970855
>They were wielded by mortal Eldar for the most part.
Anaris, one of of the 100 swords and the best one, was wielded by Vaul first, then Eldanesh, and finally Khaine.
>>43970911
Yes, Eldanesh. A mortal Eldar.
The Dawn Blade is far too large to be wielded by a mortal.
>>43970929
It could be a shard of anaris?
>>43970929
see
>>43970864
>>43966322
you could be right about it just being sword design. the necrons us bayonets that look the same.
>>43970929
You mean a demigod.
The sword was large enough to be wielded by Vaul and Khaine.
>>43970962
>You mean a demigod.
Nope. Mortal.
>The sword was large enough to be wielded by Vaul and Khaine.
They're gods and can do as they like.
Mortals can't wield weapons on the scale of the dawn blade.
>>43970994
a wraith guard could arguably wield one
>>43971030
Yeah, a dead Eldar would totally find use in a sword that extends his life span.
>>43971030
Aren't Wraith units largely post fall inventions though?
I don't think they had need of them before the fall.
>>43967738
>Farsight is 300 years old warrior
I just realised that, considering Cassius is the oldest Ultramarines being almost 400 years old, Farsight is probably around the same age as Calgar.
>>43971082
The living Wraithknight pilot would.
>>43971082
you've been doing nothing but arguing about the size of the weapon, so i'll ask a simple question.
if the sword was made for crones, why isn't it smaller
>>43971119
Eldar are super long-lived anyway.
>>43971109
Some members of the Sanguinary guard are around 700 years old.
Not relevant just a cool bit of info.
>WS4
>>43968958
It is obvious you are fighting a losing battle here mate just stop replying it is getting embarrassing
>>43971136
Now that I think about it, any sword that kill your enemy would extend your life span considerably.
Powerful magic!
>>43971125
It doesn't even look like cron tech. All their stuff are solid light constructs.
Old ones?
>>43971119
>The living Wraithknight pilot would.
Too small for a Wraithknight.
Did they even have those at the time?
They're a pretty desperate measure for the Eldar.
>>43971125
>you've been doing nothing but arguing about the size of the weapon, so i'll ask a simple question.
>if the sword was made for crones, why isn't it smaller
I don't think it was made for Crons.
I think the blade is either Chaotic in origin or made by an unknown psychic xenos race.
>>43971190
How about you bring a point next time instead.
>>43971190
>Telling a two hour old comment to "stop replying."
>>43971211
Well, whether it's Chaos or not, an unknown Xeno race makes the most sense for something that would lift it and care about the life-draining effect.
>>43971205
>All their stuff are solid light constructs.
Not true. Warscythes are solid, just got an energy field that makes them almost unbreakable.
>>43971253
Pity it isn't one of Vauls swords and Farsight is becoming something like the aeskhaine from Fantasy. That would be cool.
>>43971146
Yeah, Ultramarines kind of lost the genetic lottery, at least on the life span part.
Well, it wasn't really a lottery actually. Look like the Emperor didn't wanted to see the same Ultramarines faces centuries after centuries. Blood angels are fabulous enough to stay I guess.
>>43971280
BA live longer than most.
There aren't many old Ultras because almost all their veterans died fairly recently.
The Mortificator CM is of UM seed and he's 800 or something.
>>43969945
Just curios where I can read up on that bit. Irregardless, there's plenty of clues pointing to Chaos.
And I'd doubt so many people would be butt hurt about the Swarmlord if it becomes not just Farsight beating him but Khorne empowered Farsight that did it.
>>43971146
Should Farsight be WS10? But I guess that would make Calgar WS45
>>43971415
What are you talking about?
>>43971357
>Just curios where I can read up on that bit. Irregardless, there's plenty of clues pointing to Chaos.
The Farsight Supplement
The Emperor will be reincarnated in the empty shell of Rouberte Guilliam and reveal that the Tau were part of his plan after the fall of Terra.
>>43967006
>Farsight has never lost in stories, has he?
actually, he lost the first battle in the war of
Dakka, after he overextended AND GOT OUT STRATEGISED BY ORKS. Hell, the warboss took 3 sept worlds in a year and is grinding down the Enclaves in "a war of attrition the orks can afford, but the Tau cannot.
>>43972716
> "But my Emperor, what the point of such a plan?"> "In M3, anon called me a weeaboo for playing tau."
>>43973298
>GOT OUT STRATEGISED BY ORKS
nah, he ran out of resources. if the orks are good at anything, it's besieging a planet, as new soldiers almost literally pop out of the dirt and never get demoralized.
though farsight did fuck up, it was more or less due to inexperience fighting orks.
so, who's getting updated after the tau? i wnat it to be nids, choas orand inquisitors codex with sister rolled into it, barring that just plastic sisters.
>>43973464
>my Emperor, what is a "Weaboo"?
>>43967629
Didnt a space marine do that with a axe tho?
>>43973481
>>nah, he ran out of resources.
>>GOT OUT STRATEGISED BY ORKS
>>nah, he ran out of resources.
>>GOT OUT STRATEGISED BY ORKS
Dude. If you run out of resources in a campaign against Orks, you just got out strategised by fucking Orks.
>>43973481
>nah, he ran out of resources.
no, he got encircled by the Orks after he overextended. Idk if you're trolling or just dumb.
>>43968785
>Tau are and will remain a minor nuisance
Dident stop them from stopping 2 crusades in their tracks and making the imperium so butthurt it set a system on fire and said "FUCK YOU WE WIN!" and went home.
>>43973931
far enough, all i remeber is someone came back later and killed the rest of the orks
>>43974010
>Idk if you're trolling or just dumb.
that's what i rememberd being written; it's more likely that i remembered wrong.
>>43973873
A space wolf the axe was posseded by a demon
>>43974252
my dick was possed by a demon.i don't have anything witty to spoiler; do you ever feel like trying to be funny on this site is pointless?
>>43968536
Well said,bud. Dante is my boy, and Calgar is a beast. I always find it strange when the scope of the rules outclasses the fluff of the game. Dante is pretty awesome for his points, but in the lore he was able to defeat Skarbrand. For 5 more points than Dante, Skarbrand is WS, BS, and Initiative 10- doubt there is much my beloved Chapter Master can do against that. For Sanguinius and the Emperor.
>>43966811
Farsight is basically a vampire now anyway.
>>43970106
No, as I recall it was a different tyrant that was massive and powerful but never explicitly stated to be the Swarmlord.
>>43966604
Could the Ethereals be warp-incarnations of something evil in the Tau Empire? They "mysteriously" appeared in the midst of the Tau's darkest hour to "unify" the race. What if the Tau Empire accidentally birthed a warp god as cunning as Tzeentch? What if Farsight caught a glimpse of something familiar in Arthas Moloch aside from just madness?
>>43967954
>That sword is easily one of the weakest magic/relic swords.
I know it might be because I'm playing Dark Angels but a AP2 Armorbane sword that strikes at initiative is fucking sweet to me. Farsight would probably wreck Azrael and Belial unless the latter took TH/SS,
>>43973931
Well being that orkz main stratagy is to just throw boyz and dakka at a problem till it stops being a problem its actually not that hard to be out stratagized by orkz
simply put, if you didnt bring enough ammo to kill an entire systems worth of orkz, ur gonna lose.
>>43971308
chaos allows you to live as long as the gods want
>>43975005
As much as I like that idea, GW is not that clever or original.
I love the Tau, but they just are too 'noble-bright' for 40k, it feels like they belong in a different game.
I would love to see what chaos would do to their sleek sexy battlesuit designs
I have a feeling that Farsight's plot is basically this:
"so guys lets give a tau, who hate melee, a magic sword that makes one of them really good at melee"
"why"
"i dunno, would be cool"
"I guess, but where is that gonna go? like is it chaos magic, necron magic what? i need details"
"who cares, swords are cool right. I got this cool drawing of a battlesuit with a sword"
"eh fine i'll turn it into a model. maybe in 9 years the fans will come up with something that makes a little sense and we will just rip that off"
One thing that always bugged me about the Tau: if they hate melee so much, why not just use drones. put some buzz saws on those little guys, they shoot like orkz anyways
>>43971308
Alexis Polux of the Imperial Fists lived 8 centuries following the HH and died to super poison
>>43974040
Which means they are a minor problem. If they were truly a major problem, the Imperium would have done a Zapp Brannigan and just sent wave after wave of men until the Tau guns were clogged with bodies.
>>43975702
That's coz Orkz is made for Fightin' and Winnin'.
>>43966338
Shadowsun rapes Khan and Raven Guard all day in melee now.
>>43976137
And who does Shadowsun have a serious Tsundere crush for?
>>43976255
Farsight?
>>43976275
Yes. And what is Farsight good at?
>>43976300
Rebelling?
>>43976300
Managing the Enclave?
>>43976300
Being Big Boss
In Space
>>43976306
Wrong. MELEE! He is good at melee. So to be just as good as Farsight, Shadowsun practices being good at?
>>43976357
All Fire Caste practice ritualistic melee combat tho...
what is your point?
>>43976357
>So to be just as good as Farsight, Shadowsun practices being good at?
Cowering behind decoys.
>>43976357
He's pretty good at rebelling too, anon.
Pretty good at managing the Enclaves as Big Boss in Space, too.
>>43976397
>Fire Caste practice ritualistic melee combat tho
And so far, the only two Tau that manage to not get smeared into paste in melee with Space Marines are Farsight and Shadowsun. That is my point. Shadowsun, who is borderline obsessive with defeating Farsight despite Farsight saving her ass over and over, will very likely imitate him to better be like him, in order to beat finally beat him.
>>43976430
So what you're saying is Shadowsun is going to rebel? WE MUST WARN THE ETHEREALS!
>>43976444
You mean the ones running around like headless chickens now that Aun'va is dead?
>>43976430
>borderline obsessive with defeating Farsight despite Farsight saving her ass over and over
That might have something to do with Aun'Shi not so subtly preferring Farsight to her.
>>43976520
Why is he still part of the equation? Isn't he in Commoragh?
>>43976355
He can't possibly be Big Boss, because Lias Issodon still exists. And Lias Issodon is Big Boss, over an entire chapter of Solid-snake marines.
>>43976430
Someone has been watching to much anime...
>>43976520
Farsight has the will of a warrior!
>>43976576
Lias Issodon is Venom Snake.
Raptors are just Johnnies don't kid yourself. They seem the most logical from our viewpoint but tactical operations clearly don't work well in 40k.
>>43976631
When applying it to a faction that is literally Anime: The Empire, then not, it's not enough.
>>43976430
It still pisses me off to no end how many times I hear about Shadowsun killing a CHAPTER MASTER in melee. No less, a Raven Guard Chapter Master packing a relic and a full panoply. You know how that melee in the book should have gone?
The chapter master jumps in, wielding Swiftstrike and Murder with Digi-weapons, and wearing artificer armour. He then gets 6 hits off, followed by 5 wounds. Shadowsun then fails 3 of her invuln saves, and she dies.
I've thrown dice at my desk 6 times now trying to see how said melee would go, and every single one of them leads to the Chapter Master hugging one blue tsundere to death before she even gets any attacks back.
Shadowsun winning was pure bullshit, of the highest possible degree.
>>43976779
Because Anon, Plot Armor. Tau have the thickest plot armor. It's what allowed them to recover from an Ork WAAAGH that saw 3 Septs enslaved, it's what allowed them to not get eaten by the Hive Fleet ready to do some backdoor humping, it's what allowed them to survive 2 Imperial Crusades.
Most cases, that plot armor being Farsight, but you get the idea. Now that GW has gotten off its ass and is actually doing something with them, it's pretty clear that to have the Empire stand any chance on the offensive in Imperial territory(and not fringe space) they'll need some thick as fuck plot armor.
>>43976779
>>43976779
unless he never got to meele due to twin fusion blasters to the face
pretty sure Shadowsuns' "melee fighting" is just pressing the fusion blaster against someone and pulling the trigger
Everyone knows Tau Guns > Imperium dudes
>>43976779
>I've thrown dice at my desk 6 times now trying to see how said melee would go
>I forgot about the shooting phase and shadowsun's jumpjets
>>43976832
The real question is, is their plot armor thick enough to save the 3rd Sphere despite the losses on Aggrellan + cut off from the rest of the Tau Empire
>>43976867
Probly ya
GW wont shit all over their 'noble-bright anime fan-service' section of the market
>>43976779
She also fires a gun into a melee before any morale or consolidation takes place and one shots him.
>>43976867
You know it is. Look what happened in the campaign itself
>Imperium blasts away orbital defenses
>Imperials have free reign to bomb/deploy troops anywhere on the surface
>They choose a HUNDRED MILES IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE instead of RIGHT NEXT TO THE FUCKING OBJECTIVE
>Out of nowhere FARSIGHT!
>His tech is outdated as fuck yet does a better job of wiping Imperials than Shadowsun
>>43976902
It helps that Shadowsun has plot senses to detect assassins
>>43976902
The Tau literally outadapt the most adaptive subrace of the most adaptive race in the setting as well as fighting a literally infinite number of superior enemies to a standstill by their own "superior tactics using everything they have" with their inferior and vastly limited and minuscule force.
I'm not surprised at anything they do anymore, like killing a background character chapter master. Tau are probably going to reach Terra, fuck it, you know they can at this point.
>>43977010
No, that would mean GW would actually have to get creative. Most likely, we'll just see another Imperials vs. Xenos campaign, where the Imperium wins only through great sacrifice(i.e millions of disposable soldiers with no real change to their structure) and despite winning will have to abandon another planet whose name they got when they threw a bunch of magnet letters at the fridge.
>>43976927
>Plot senses
You mean committing the mistake of replicating an Ethereal without the smell.
So um, does anyone have a source on this whole "Farsight beat the Swarmlord in a duel" thing? Cause I can't find it anywhere and I'm starting to think it is bullshit.
>>43977183
It's in the Farsight Enclaves. It was a super hive tyrant but I don't think it was called the Swarmlord. It was pretty much Swarmlord by any other name, just like the "Draigo is Slaanesh's toy" shit from Daemons.
>>43967673
>FROM making a 40k game
>Tau suits are toned down AC's
>Stompas, Dreads, Knights are Hounds
>Inquisition guys playing like Hunters
>Everyone else is some sort of broken undead
You know what, I could get behind this.
>>43975828
Dante has been Chapter Master longer than that (1,000 years). I believe that they said he was at least three centuries old by then. Not to mention that Dante being the "oldest living space marine" is sorta inflated. Bjorne is older, just stuck in a dreadnought. Then there are the chaos marines who are still kicking around since the heresy. I think the oldest of those is one of the Fallen- apparently he was one of the first terrans chosen to become a space marine.
>>43977211
It sounds like it was probably a Hive Lord or whatever they call super Hive Tyrants. Kinda like the one at Iyaden. Not the Swarmlord though.
>>43977248
>>43967673
I.. I didn't know I wanted this until I read your post. Now I'm going to sob manly tears for a few hours as I realize this is probably never going to happen.
>>43976832
>Most cases, that plot armor being Farsight
At this point I'm willing to accept that Farsight isn't plot armour, and is instead just that good.
Out-adapting a hive fleet with hyperadaptation as it's signature trait is still bullshit, though.
>>43977382
He's still Plot armor for the Tau Empire. Anytime something is so big they can't stop it, Farsight shows up, cleans up the mess, then leaves. Then the Ethereals can go back to claiming all the credit and saying how bad Farsight is.
>>43977415
Too bad he was almost driven mad by ork tactics.
>>43977601
He got better.
Wasn't one of his feats utterly wrecking the Ork invasions on four worlds in one day by just saying fuck it and ruining the planets?
Setting light to the atmosphere, that kind of thing.
>>43977601
Then he plot armor'd his way back and killed the Ork Warboss. Because the plot demands it. Though GW still seems to have forgotten the three enslaved sept worlds are still enslaved...
>>43967916
This post is dumb.
>Eldar ruled the galaxy, and wasn't worried about humanity at that point.
Humanity had nothing to do with their fall and depending on your sources were roughly equal in power to the Eldar
>The Eldar were maxing out their potential.
They stagnated a million years ago so all they did all day was shove sharpies up their buttholes. Eventually they shoved up so many sharpies that is spawned a chaos god, and the only Eldar to survive were the hippies, fundies, and uber-faggots.
>Just like humanity is in the current setting.
Hahahahaha
>Tau are the next race coming in to replace humanity in the next few 10,000 years.
Realistically, Tau won't live to see out the millennium, if not the century.
>They'll be the ones who worship whatever the etheral become when they fuse together or whatever, making them the emperor equivalent, and when Farsight is corrupted and becomes the Horus equivalent.
This is so dumb. Tau don't worship anything, it's part of why they're psychically dead and why daemons don't give a shit about them. Greater Good isn't a religion, it's a school of thought.
>etheral become when they fuse together or whatever,
Ethereals aren't psychic. It's implied they exert control through pheromones.
>You think humanity's reign will last forever?
Bro you seem to be under the impression that the Imperium is anything but dying a slow death.
