How does Kyr's master of fort and Void shields on buildings work? Are they AV13?
Aslo, as you can take Wall of mathyrs Defence network, which is a full trench line, as one 'Fortification'. Does the whole lot get +1 Av?
Don't know the rules for void shields. I'd have to assume you'd get +1 Av on the wall of martyrs since it is just one big fortification. I'd much rather give it the re-roll 1s though.
>>43951953
The defence network is not one fortification but a bunch put together that takes up one fort slot, you'd have to choose which gets the bonus. As for the void shield the rules explicitly says thats it AV of the fort, void shields have their own AV and while they are part of the fort they are not the fortification itself.
>>43951953
A fortification network only takes one fortification slot.
Void Shields neither grant cover saves nor are they buildings, vehicles, or fortifications. For example, 40k Grav weaponry cannot damage void shields. Kyr's rule cannot augment void shields. The rule will only apply to the void shield generator or the actual building that is projecting the void shield.
>>43952188
Void Shield......25 pts
The fortification houses an ancient device that can generate a localised void shield.
Whilst a building has a void shield, any hits scored by shooting attacks against the building, models embarked within it
or upon its battlements will instead hit the void shield. A void shield has an Armour Value of 12. A glancing or
penetrating hit (or any hit from a Destroy er weapon) scored against a void shield causes it to collapse. After this,
further hits strike the original target instead. At the end of each of the controlling play er’s turns, roll a dice for the
collapsed void shield; a roll of 5+ instantly restores it.
>>43951953
Please refer to each fortification’s individual datasheet entry for its Terrain Type, Fire & Access Points, Weapons,
Special Rules, Options and Weapon Profiles.
So no.
>>43952329
>>43952335
So the shield is part of the building? and has a AV? going with yes, AV 13
>>43952458
>So the shield is part of the building?
No. Read the rules for Void Shields. They are the same as leadership bubbles.
>>43952458
What building are you using him on specifically? A Void Shield Generator?
>>43951862
>Hispanic male shaved head
Gangers killing disabled people now.
>>43952683
Whoops, wrong thread.
>>43952637
>>43952664
the rules are here >>43952335 so any fortification can have void shields. And as kyr's rule says " its AV increase by +1". It dose not say which Av too up. so ALL Av's are up'ed.
>>43952816
The AV of the building, not the AV of the Void Shield. You can't increase the Void Shield's AV itself because it's not an actual fortification.
>It dose not say which Av too up. so ALL Av's are up'ed.
It says it RIGHT FUCKING THERE. A SINGLE FORTIFICATION CHOICE YOU HAVE INCLUDED IN YOUR ARMY.
>>43952816
It also says cover save, which void shields can't grant so that should tip you off already, retard.
>>43952925
it doesn't say front, side or rear. So you up all the Av's a fortification has. As a shield is an upgrade for the fortification, with an Av, it too is upgraded
>>43952949
the rules comes in two parts, debating the second part retard
>>43953030
Yeah, you up all of the fortification's AV's up. The Void Shield is it's own AV, not the fortification's.
>>43953077
Trying to cheese building bonuses onto void shields that aren't even buildings and are separate entities is even more retarded.
You clearly have no idea how void shields even work and people smarter than you have failed at shit like this before.
>>43953077
Note how the void shield rules say
> After this,further hits strike the original target instead.
>original target
What original target are we talking about? Oh right, the actual fortification that's taken as a fortification choice in your army, which is what Kyr Vhalen's rule affects.
Claiming the rules aren't related or are "separate parts" is retarded as fuck. You can't even play the game if you don't read all the rules and use them together. This isn't confusing at all, you are just either stupid as fuck or trying way too hard to cheat.
>>43951862
>Are they AV13?
No.
Can you take void shield in your army by itself? No.
So how can he increase its AV? He's increasing the building's AV? "But the void shield is part of the building!" Why does it have its own AV then? The "fortification" increases its AV. The void shield is not a fortification.
>>43953414
>The "fortification" increases its AV. The void shield is not a fortification.
But it IS, it is part of the fortification.
>"But the void shield is part of the building!" Why does it have its own AV then?
WUT?
>>43954586
>it is part of the fortification.
But not the fortification itself.
>>43954586
A void shield is not a fortification. Period. It is a fortification upgrade. You can't use your fortification bonus rules to upgrade your tank traps or escape hatches either.
>>43954607
it literally is part of the fortifcation
>>43951862
You know you can just email Forge World and ask them?
>>43956214
My dick is literally part of me, I am not my dick.
>>43959057
If you get a tattoo on your arm, do you have a tattoo? no, your arm does
>>43958825
where is the fun in that?
>>43959262
Sorry, didn't realize this was where faggots hung out.
If a model has an upgrade, then this still on / part of the model, and if a buff affect the whole model, its ALL of it
>>43959332
Wrong. Increasing a space marine's with +1S doesn't make his Bolter stronger.
