Would you vote for a dragon president?
Depends, is he pro gun? Because guns are awesome.
>>43924046
Yes, because I trust a dragon to be smarter than a dumbass human.
>>43924046
No because we have a Prime Minister.
But also yes.
>>43924059
Are dragons capable of using firearms?
>>43924102
The shape shifting ones certainly would be.
I certainly wouldn't discriminate against a candidate based on their race. Unless they're a shuggoth, because shuggoth politics leave a bad taste in yer mouth.
>>43924102
I believe they're called "artillery" at that point.
>>43924102
Why would they need firearms. They already have firemouths.
>>43924144
Ban assault firemouths
>>43924150
dragons muzzles can only have 2 nostrils, any more and they get more trust with each trigger pull.
>>43924046
Probably. What's the worst that could happen?
>>43924046
If they don't seem to be any more evil than the other politicians vying for the job then sure, probably.
A dragon's going to do everything in his power to protect his hoard, while playing the longest of cons.
If I'm going to be owned by a government, might as well make it a scary-competent one.
Yes because dragons in politics are my fetish.
It's an excuse to put in a recurring BBEG the party can't kill for political reasons mixed with the fact that doing so would be fucking hard.
Then you get Good and Evil teaming up to fuck up undead armies and shit because dragons as leaders are prone to either pragmatic decisions or getting bored and deciding to fuck shit up because it's profitable and they haven't fucked shit up already this decade.
>>43924046
Absolutely not. Any Dragon that doesn't use a combination of cunning, shapeshifting, and his awesome power to become a tyrannical dictator does not deserve my respect and support. Once a dragon shows he has the cojones to get shit done then I'll gladly welcome my new dragon overlords.
>>43924183
Ohh, they're almost certainly as/more evil than the other guy. But I'll take a competent evil over a lesser one any day.
>>43924183
My personal dragon president check list is as follows:
>Is he cute?
>Does he have a tie?
If both of these are yes, he has my vote.
>>43924217
I dunno, some settings have non-evil or even actively good dragons, so I'm not ready to make that kind of assumption in a setting-neutral sort of thread like this.
>>43924278
I'm not going to argue against the existence of good dragons. Good politicians, on the other hand, I'm not so sure about. And if you're going to try to coerce a populous into voting for you being an evil fire breathing bastard with enough charisma to spare certainly doesn't hurt.
>>43924278
That is a shadowrun dragon, anon, they're selfish power-hungry great worms, except firewing, she's an insane tree hugger.
So yes, I'd vote for the D man
>>43924527
Wasn't one of the dragons a good guy?
Also, I've always wondered why Shadowrun didn't have dragons that were good guys, but still total assholes.
>>43924553
A lot of the dragons are good guys, in that they are doing their best to protect the world from the next scourge.
>>43924553
That would be firewing. She cares about preserving Gaia. The others are just playing immortal power games over the Ages. None of them are evil, per say, they just view us how we view rabbits. Useful, but not individually important.
>>43924100
I however would totally vote for the Dragon party. I don't think they'd even need to make a proper manifesto, just a poster with a picture of their dragon.
>>43924527
>Vote for the D
Wouldn't we all?
Paarthurnax 2016.
>>43924209
So you would vote for Putin?
>>43925169
Dunkelzhan vs Paarthurnax would be an interesting race
>>43924046
I need to know his opinion on nuclear power, gun rights, and recreational narcotics usage. Really, those are my key topics.
>>43924059
Sure, hes capable of putting down armed rebellions by himself so you can wave that gun about.
>>43924268
You are what is wrong with the voting public.
>>43924046
Do we even know what Platforms Dunkelzhan campaigned on in Shadowrun anyway?
>>43925463
Sadly that's more thought than the majority put into it.
>>43925721
Drives a man to drink, it does.
>>43924046
Can't be worse than any of the presidents we've had for the past decade, so why not?
>>43924046
if i agree with his policies i suppose so
i do like cute dragons in ties but im not sure thats enough to sway me
>>43924046
Probably, the rest of the world leaders would be terrified of him and he could bully his way into much better trade deals. And I assume he'd be fine with delegating domestic affairs to his cabinet. He's also obviously going to be fiscally conservative, so that's a big plus.
>>43924046
>metallic dragon president
>Always Good aligned
They get my vote
Chromatics, it depends. I wouldn't vote for no black dragon
>>43924046
Shouldn't he be blue in that picture?
>>43924595
A select few care or cared about humans and life in general beyond "pawns in the great work", like the eponymous dragon prez Dunkelzahn. Too bad being a good guy tends to get you killed in Shadowrun.
>>43924046
That doesn't look anything like the big D.
>>43926424
If I remember my Shadowrun correctly, he was the longest president, the tallest president, the oldest president, the heaviest president, the only physically mute president (sort of), and the president with the shortest time of office.
Yes. Because noone wants to fuck with a country lead by a dragon.
>>43924046
Completely selfish, but absolutely not incompetent?
That's a strict improvement over all current western democracies.
>>43924046
Yes
No, but one could make a good minister of defence.
>>43925469
I imagine 'i'm a huge fucking dragon' and all it implies in the Shadowrun universe is a pretty solid platform.
>>43925448If you're pro all three of those then I think we might be the same person.
>>43927284
Me three
>>43924046
I would vote for Dunks for sure.
Best dragon.
>>43927221
>my eyes immediately lock onto those lips
...yep. I've been here too long.
>>43924046
Better than just about every other candidate we've got, so why the hell not?
>>43924046
If it's The Big D, sure would. Dragons can be bros too.
>>43928288
There are way worse.. peculiar interests out there.
>>43928288
>not using those_necks.jpg
I'm disappointed
>>43924046
In a heartbeat.
Hell, I'd vote for a donkey - at least it would shit in it's own pen not all over the country.
>>43925462
Being that powerful sure worked out well for him when someone stuck a fucking black hole into his sandwich.
When someone is that powerful, people build a better rebellion.
>>43924046
The question is dare you not vote for your draconic overlord?
>>43924046
Yes because I'm a dracophile
>>43924046
Of course I would. At least he's an overt asshole.
Unless it's a nice dragons. I don't trust nice.
>>43925469
Metahuman rights, largely. And his talking points were just sort of vaguely about recharging america and restoring american spirit.
>>43927284
it shouldn't be that surprising, those are common pet issues with the geeky young men demographic.
>>43929546
>And his talking points were just sort of vaguely about recharging america and restoring american spirit.
This is what's so unsettling about dragons in shadowrun - they've been asleep for 4,000 years but it takes them no time at all to suss out the modern human and learn how they expect their presidents and ceos to talk.
>>43928288
I'm wondering why that 10 year old has giant tits, personally.
>>43929627
Because artist is shit at drawing from an angle. That is a full grown woman bending forward.
It's a shame that the President Dunkelzahn plot didn't foreshadow the birther movement, it would have been sick if it was a plot point that he had to produce or fake evidence that he'd been born on the North American continent (unlikely, since as Mountainshadow he laired in the region of modern Ukraine).
At least Shadowrun predicted the political career of Arnold Schwarzenegger, it'll always have that.
Nope
I don't trust a non-human's goals and ideals to align with my own.
The fact that they are hilarious smart makes it even more difficult to ascertain if they aren't just deceiving you by playing a long game.
Combine that with their deep interest in hoarding wealth and power and I see little value to a dragon as even a private citizen... at best they are a sequestered sage of the sorts like Paarthunax.
>>43924046
Depends, how does he feel about free market economics, dissolution of agricultural subsidies, downsizing and consolidation of bureaucratic organizations, and the lowering of tarrifs?
>>43929783
Racist
>>43929783
What if the Dragon views economic equilibrium and balance in the nation as his horde? A sort of conceptual horde of you will?
>>43929783
I don't trust a HUMAN'S goals and ideals to align with my own.
May as well vote in the dragon, dude may actually take the long view of things instead of election to election.
>>43929783
>implying you trust a human's goals and ideals to align with your own
Why would you ever?
>>43929803
Dragons love hoarding wealth, so he's probably all for it.
>>43929808
Call it what you like... expecting a scaled embodiment of greed and cunning to play by our rules is dumb.
We are vermin compared to such creatures.
Any who would willingly lower themselves to negotiate on our political level is either toying with us, desperate, or deranged by their own standards.
It's like watching some strange adult wander a kid's clubhouse and exploiting his stature and knowledge to get himself elected king of the fucking playround! Except that's a better analogy for an elf in politics, because at least elves are running roughly the same hardware/software on a physiological basis!
>>43929972
It's like a benevolent parent offering their superior wisdom and support to their adopted children. It's only a matter of filial respect to love and serve the dragon with all of your being.
>>43924201
>Dragon gets sworn in as president/prime minister/whatever
>Uses his great power and high charisma to improve diplomatic relations
>his sorcerer VP (also his great great great great great great grandson) begins implementing magic for everyday consumption
>Homeland security is improved
>Gulf between lower and upper classes is narrowed to almost zilch
>society becomes nigh post scarcity
>The whole time he's been pulling out bits and pieces of the democratic process
>In another two thousand years, the country will return to a monarchy, and then in another thousand, it will rise as an empire.
>>43925169
>>43925443
Is it really wise to get into a presidential debate with a Skyrim Dragon?
>[TH'UUM PROFANITIES] Your added tax on the healthcare system will only alienate the poorer populous! - Oh, shit, I killed the entire audience again.
>>43924183
>>43924217
Agreed, it's just like when Chuthullu ran back in 2012: why vote for the lesser evil?
>>43926369
I actually wanted to run a game where one side detail of the setting was a Gold Dragon (Lawful/good) is in hot debate for presidency of a nation against a Silver Dragon (Chaotic/good).
>>43924046
sure, why not? I'm American. We already voted a half-evolved monkey into office and then Obama. Why not a hyper-evolved, magical lizard?
>>43929906
Except under such circumstances, economic profit usually balances out to zero, and the downsizing of the subsidies and bureaucracies and tarrifs would actually decrease overall concentration of Wealth as the economic flow naturally moves to optimize and equalize gains from trade across the board, decreasing overall dead weight loss for both the consumer and producer. Further it also incentivises domestic markets to either specialize or diversify in order to take advantage of comparative advantage of the different national firms in the national market.
So if anything, it would decrease the wealth in the federal institutes, and delineate wealth in the private sector as arbitrage and entrepreneurial innovation and market entry competes away profits.
>Dragon sworn in
>Dragon constantly tries to do things like "common citizens"
>Headlines the next morning: President gets stuck in subway! Refuses to just fly.
>>43924046
Sure, if it stops Trump
>>43930135
Nah, that's Ben Carson's job.
>>43930135
>implying Trump isn't a dragon using human form.
A vain, bombastic, loudmouth with an interest in securing concrete wealth and property?
Somehow manages to draw large crowds and approval despite the most outrageous statements, and even his political/financial opponents have an unsettling tendency to come out of a closed-door meeting with a more favorable attitude towards him?
>>43930135
>>43930222
>Mind Flayer/Red Dragon 2016
>>43930243
Even an all Illithid party would be better than Trump at this point
>>43930231
There is no way any dragon would accept hair that atrocious.
>>43930045
everything about this brightened up my morning. thanks anon
>>43930231
Holy shit.
>>43929575
It makes perfect sense actually.
We want cheap electricity so our bills are low.
We want guns because we aren't physically strong enough to prevent a mugging without one.
And we want recreational narcotics because the only true release from the suffering that is life can be found at the bottom of an opiate-induced haze.
>>43929826
Horde of BNP
>>43930399
No, because excessive interference in the market and enforced autarky actually harms economic growth and reduces total gains from trade, plus usually the economic policies made to "protect" domestic business just slows down the economy and produces dead weight loss.
Then again, I don't know much about the British National Party or its policies in action, since I'm clear on the other side of the pond, so don't take my word as final.
>>43930231
He's also a raging moron.
Between that and >>43930282
I can't imagine a dragon being willing to swallow its pride enough to behave like that.
Nope because elctrionc are for homo sapiens sapiens
>>43928919
There's every indication he did that himself.
>>43930639
Oops, meant "GDP". Forgot we're not using an english-derived acronym in this case.
>>43929872
>>43929865
thats why differnt countries MUST (fuck you NWO) exist, differnt people have differnt views on how to do stuff right
>>43930129
source? source source source. Source. Source..
>>43926369
>I ain't voting for no black dragons
C'mon anon, it's FUTURE YEAR
>>43930791
Oh, then yeah, the Dragon would try his best to maximize GDP, probably by providing an incentive for the nation to focus on producing its comparative advantage good and being more involved in global markets.
Much like how China currently holds biggest hand in the Rare Earth Metals market currently. Well that and because China gives no fucks about environmental protection unless it's westerners bitching about pandas
>>43931168
China is also a dictatorship. And they love dragons there. I think the dragon ruling over theory might be making a return here.
>>43924046
Why is Dunkelzahn not blue
>>43930282
It's a disguise. That's exactly what it WANTS you to think.
>>43929627
>>43929668
You guys sure it's not a halfling or something? Looks like a halfling.
>>43924046
No. I'd rather vote liberal.
>>43931632
It is not impossible, but one look at the dragon says that artists' style is deranged and therefore, that is not a halfling.
>>43924046
Isn't Dunkelzahn supposed to be blue?
>>43924046
Does he have foreign policy experience?
>>43930952
Tirrel (Cerberus on FA)Myself, I prefer Slate for my dragons.
>>43933346
Dunkelzahn was on great terms with the NaN, who otherwise were extremely belligerent towards the UCAS, so that was actually a big thing going for him. Plus other great dragons are basically sovereigns, and he sat on a council with them.
If it was Big D then yes,
He was the only one who really cared about humans and meta humans
He was also insane
>>43934356
How was he insane?
>>43933951
>Slate
vorefags pls go this is a nice calm discussion about cute dragons in ties
This question is impossible to answer without more information.
Is this a dragon that just appeared in our reality, out of nowhere, and said "Yo, imma run for president?" Then fuck no, no way he's not evil. In fact, our best bet is to capture him and make sure he never escapes, because he's almost definitely trying to take over the world or some shit.
Is this a dragon that has grown up here? Okay, maybe, but only if you consider all the things that make dragons dragon-like in personality (namely, extreme greed and pride) to be remnants of culture, not race. I don't want to vote for somebody who's biologically compelled to act like a more arrogant version of one of those neo-nazi caricatures of Jews.
Even then it's iffy. What's his/her political record? Does he/she have a good understanding of economics, foreign policy, and domestic policy?Is he/she attractive?
Assuming that they aren't biologically evil and a good candidate otherwise, sure. That would be cool as fuck, actually. Especially if they wore a cute tie like in the OP Picture.
>>43935658
>Who do you think is talking about cute dragons in ties?
>>43929627
i think its just a shadow
>>43930045
>We already voted a half-evolved monkey into office and then Obama
oh fuck my sides
>>43930686
the fact he is willing to swallow his pride is why he wants to be president no dragon society will accept somebody so shameless
>>43926570
It can be argued he was the sexiest President as well.
>>43936449
I don't think it's arguable. His metahuman form in particular was said to be as beautiful as Michelangelo's David.
I support Dragon monarchy
>>43936517
wow he just ripped a perfectly good maps what a douche
>>43937018
I think you mean she.
>>43935825
Not the degenerates, hopefully.
>>43937018
Tiamat is female you fucking mong.
>>43930045
>We already voted a half-evolved monkey into office and then Obama
Fuck you, Dubya was great.
>>43924046
Yes.
Because at least something will be done. Plus, then magic is real and I hope I become an Orc.
>>43925463
FUCK YOU
>>43938086
>The Sixth World and the Awakening happens a tad too early
>Instead of power hungry megacorps ruling the world it's incompetent countries tied up by their own red tape
>Instead of Shadowrunners being underground mercs and criminals, they're just citizens doing legally questionable things to make a fucking living in a world that's probably in the middle of shitting itself
>England's Queen is "replaced" by a dragon who's basically a carbon copy of her
>Democrats and Republicans are still at each other's throats, but at least they now have dragons, elves, orks, dwarves, and trolls on their sides
>Greece still a shithole economically
>Vladimir Putin turns into a troll, and uses his newly gained muscles to tame and ride a bear
>Scaliefags making porn of their new draconic overlords
>/pol/ turns their hate towards elves
>/tg/ complains about how retarded it is that literally nothing has changedwhile jerking it to actual fucking dragons
>>43938086
>wanting to be an orc instead of an elf
>>43938742
Don't be silly, anon./tg/ would jerk to drawings of dragons because >3DPD
On the plus side, the population of vorefags would decrease.
>>43938742
Pretty much.
I'd sign up with the first crew needing some Decker help / covering fire.
>>43938778
>wanting to be a fag
>>43924046
What color is he?
>>43938841
>complaining about 3DPD
>of real fantasy creatures
this is so true it hurts
>>43938850
>Decker
>2015
>Not Hacker
>Not renaming all the archetypes to match the fact that it's not the future
>Not realizing that being a Shadowrunner in the present would be boring or dangerous as fuck in a world with only magic and every day tech, as well as a maybe-not-corrupt police force on your ass if you get caught
>>43938850
>trying to deny your fag heritage, you fag-ass blood
>>43939021
I define my reality.
I can, and will, call myself whatever I like.
>>43939060
Next thing you know, people are using "drek" instead of "shit" and "chummer" instead of "pal"
that drek aint schway, senpai
>>43939108
>implying a new slang wouldn't develop for a new sub / counter culture
Chummer is kind of dumb, 'drek' is already a bastardization of a real word. I use schway already.
>>43938742
If the awakening were to happen right now, I'm 100% convinced it would be "Business as usual, but with magic and dragons and elves and shit" within fifty years. Magical criminals would start just running drugs because it's profitable, dragons would quickly realize that the best way to get a hoard is to run an efficient bank and become amphetamine-addicted, math-obsessed CEOs of financial institutions, and high-level wizards would wind up working for Apple and Google.It'd be pretty awesome and some part of me desperately wishes it would happen
>>43924046
What political party is the Dragon in? I, like many Americans, vote for the team I prefer regardless of who the candidates are and what they stand for.
>>43939235
>Wizards would be working for Apple and Google
>Dragons also pitch in with their investments
>Thus the great Apple-Google war began
>Then it ended soon after because President Lizardass decided to make it illegal for companies to declare war on each other, ruining the fun for everyone
The more I think about it, the more I would kinda like to see a modern-day version of Shadowrun happen.
>>43939295
>What political party is the Dragon in?
The nationalist American imperial party.
>>43938742
I like that England becomes ruled by a polite but oft slightly distant old woman dragon who wears nice hats and simple dresses.
I want to live in that England. It sounds better than mine.
>>43939140
drek is shit
cool kids use drokk
>>43939334
Shadejog, where people do perhaps morally questionable things while skirting legality but mostly not.
>>43939334
How fast could I sign up with Google to crush Apple?
Also, could I use Steve Jobs as a decoration in my house?
>>43939403
>Shadejoggers, there to deliver you your one-of-a-kind enchanted dragon dildo when UPS doesn't want to
I like where this thread is going
post more casual wear dragons
>>43934401
Tried to turn metahumanity into Drakes.
>>43939953
>Shadejoggers, for when you're too much of a pussy to take back the lawnmower your neighbor "borrowed"
>>43940246
So... TF was D's fetish? Wonder what the other Great dragons' are.
>>43940246
I'd be down with that shit. I mean, you get magic, and you can assume a human form at any time. Plus you could have dragon sex, which HAS to be better than normal sex.
It's basically a straight upgrade.
>>43940658
>Making deals with dragons
Never do that unless you read the terms and conditions. For all you know, becoming a Drake will also make you a hermaphrodite. Yeah that sounds hot, but you might get the male kind. Male herms only score dom chicks or fags who are still in the closet and think it's not gay if the other dude has a vag. It fucking sucks
>>43924217
Any evil is better than Trump evil.
>>43940902
I mean I'm cool with dom chicks and closet fags.
Still, I highly doubt that any dragon is gonna be that perverted. Sure, he'll turn all of humanity into dragons so he can get laid easier, but I doubt he'll inject his personal magical realm into it that much.
>>43941024
Any sort of competence is better than Trump "competence".
>>43941737
Remember, dragons are just scaly wizards, do not doubt the pervertedness of wizards.
If this occurred, I would probably join ISIS or something just for the opportunity to go slay myself a dragon.
Human pride worldwide, ugly oversized lizards and their little cult members can go fuck themselves
So, here's a question:
Why is the concept of "Modern life, but if fantasy existed" so unseen? All the franchises that try to do it wind up with a crapsack world or a world where fantasy takes up 80% of everything. Why can't we have a world where the fantasy aspects blend into modern life seamlessly?
>>43942024
Vampires of Dresden Files seem to be doing okay
>>43942070
...how far in are you?
Cause you're right, Dresden files and iron druid both do it well, but shit happens.
>>43942087
Okay at integrating/masquarading in society. Not other things. They are Vampires after all.
>>43942122
Have you read Changes? I'd say the poor judgment the red court shows there shows a distinct disconnect from reality.
>>43936483
I was going to make some snappy comment about how Michelangelo's paintings looked bizarre before I remembered his sculptures didn't look like sacks filled with lumpy potatoes.
>>43942070
Aren't they not openly vampires in that book, though?
While I doubt a dragon would desire something as fleeting as a presidency, I would wholly support a draconic monarchy. They have wisdom of the ages, are fiercely protective of what they own (would likely foster economic growth, as well as military development for defense and conquering), and aren't as painfully short sighted as 95% of human politicians are.
And worst comes to worse, they can eat opposing politicians during debates.
>>43942360
>that snake biting his dick
oh Michelangelo you fucking memer.
>>43937927
>Not the degenerates, hopefully.
We are all degenerates here son
>>43944772
I don't know, I'm pretty vanilla.
>>43940246
This is rational in every way and I approve of it.
>>43944809
Look deep into your heartof your porn folderand see the lies you impose upon yourself.
>>43945257
I have, anon.The worst that's in there is Ran-sem.
>>43945291
No idea what that is
>>43942024
I actually wrote (and am in the process of re-writing) a pilot script based on that concept. It's about a human magical engineer in New York and the antics he and his coworkers (dragon magical engineer, sarcastic elven head of marketing, excitable Goblin quality assurance engineer) get into.
Chances of it getting picked up are hovering somewhere around zero, but I like the concept.
>>43926424
>dunkelzahn was actually a good guy
revisionists pls
we all know that was just an act like wilson
>>43942070
White court at least. Some shit happens later with the reds...
Why does everybody on this board wanna fuck dragonsWhy do I want to fuck dragons
>>43951108
They're objectively superior in every way. As Ayn Rand said, "Love is the expression of one’s values, the greatest reward you can earn for the moral qualities you have achieved in your character and person" Loving what is objectively superior is the pinnacle of health.
Was Dunkelzahn a goodguy or an asshole in Earthdawn?
>>43940367
>Shadejoggers, finding accounts to steal for that one pornsite you wanna log into
>>43952032
He was a great dragon.
So yes.
Well, I voted Hiram McDaniels for Nightvale mayor. Does that count?
>>43926570
He mad his human form shorter than Lincoln out of modesty or respect.
>>43951108
Because, by virtue of being dragons, they're veryhot.
>>43929546
>not even a dragon could make America great again
>>43955633
He saved the world through unilateral uncoordinated intervention though. What could be more American than that?
>>43955773
Didn't he blow himself up?
>>43955793
Yeah. He magically asploded in a literal self-sacrifice that left behind blood-magic related anti-space, all in order to power an arcane orichalcum artifact that was necessary to destroy a metaplanar bridge (and all future bridges) Aztechnology elites were building to bring across the horrors out of the misguided belief they would honor their service and put them on top in the world.
>>43955413
STOP IT SANS
>>43929783
>I don't trust a non-human
And yet obama was elected twice
>>43924046
Only if they had 5 heads and were running against an old lady.
>>43929686
Actually, it did address it. He could only run because his old territory was in the US.
