>Be elf.
>Meet this cool new race called Humans.
>Real cool race, builds tons of neat things, gets so much done in little time and have ideas elves would never think of.
>But they seem to change...
>We go visit them again and none of them look the same. Some look similar but don't remember us.
>It has only been a few centuries since we first met.
Any one wonder how the elves to first meet humans would react to the aging difference?
>>43850507
>Any one wonder how the elves to first meet humans would react to the aging difference?
"lol"
>>43850507
Assuming their as naive and kind as in your description, they probably react with some mixture of horror and sadness. "Oh my god that's so tragic!"
Which, it kind of sucks that humans invariably have the shortest fucking life span. Even halflings live longer than they do.
>>43850558
Maybe Goblins age like dogs?
>>43850507
>Any one wonder how the elves to first meet humans would react to the aging difference?
"They breed likre rabbits. I wonder if they taste like them."
>>43850507
In Knight Errant it was pointed out that interspecies couplings between Elves and Humans popped up a lot because humans would die out before getting too boring.
>>43850558
Goblins and Orcs usually get saddled with shorter lifespans, but you have a fair point. Dwarves and Elves both live centuries by comparison.
An Elven civilization would probably see a Human Monarchy in the same way a real world Monarchy would view a Democracy, with the leader swapping around so often that it's a wonder they manage to get anything done.
>>43850658
>Elf gets a short-lived interspecies fling
>Human gets a lover for life that never gets old and pruney
I see no downside to this.
Where is OP's elf face from? I've seen it so much that it's kinda bugging me that I don't know where it is from
>>43850729 4koma about a Demon Lord
I don't remember the name, I'll see if I can find it.
>>43850507
they'd see us as children.
think about it.
>>43850729 >>43850752 Sekai Maou
http://www.readmanga.today/sekai-maou/1/all-pages
>>43850767
So Female Elf x Male Human is automatically /ss/?
>>43850657
Then we must taste like shit
>>43850802
Depends on whether you go buy relative age or mental and emotional development. If it's the first than it's always /ss/. If the elves are like in the OP or just somewhere in there 20s-50s, it's just loli.
>Implying we don't have shorter life spans because God wants us back quicker. He can't stand being away from us that long.
>>43850786
Neat
>>43850845
So, be an annoying little shit makes you immortal? That's silly.
>>43850802
>>43850767
Probably more like a 40 year old and a 26 year old -- the comparison falls apart easily because both a 26 year old human and a 260 year old elf are fully mentally and emotionally developed, but the elf has been so for 236 or so years.
Likewise, the elf isn't really comparable to a super old human, due to no dwindling faculties or gnawing despair or resigned acceptance due to reduced faculties.
I'd imagine it'd be a rare elf that would casually accept being talked down to by a human younger than them, though.
>>43850826
But anon, we taste like Pork.
Seriously, human "meat" shares an uncanny resemblance to pork, more likely than not we taste like it too.
>>43850859
It's why the good die young.
Wasn't a shorter live/mortality something of a gift in the original Lord of the Rings?
I think elves are doomed to suffer entropy and decay of this world even after they die while humans can go somewhere else.
I find it helpful to have campaigns be elf-centric, not humanocentric.
Think about it. Most fantasy settings generally have the same tech level and a similar culture for long periods of time. This is also comfier for writing, requiring you to less work.
So I have culture in general be elven, and they tend to, for obvious reasons, dominate most fields. Culture does change, but at the glacially slow pace it does in most fantasy settings. Not to mention 8000 year old wall guarding traditions and 10000 year old prophecies are largely impossible for humans to manage.
>>43850826
But rabbit is delicious.
>>43850886
Its not just the similarity. A group of explorers who met the various cannibalist tribes were welcomed to a feast. At the feast they were offered sole meat. One noted how it tasted exactly like pig but haven't seen any boar or such around. He asked his translator to ask them what the meat was and they told him it wad a rival tribes warrior caught skulking about. I also vaguely remember something like 4 out of the 9 finished their meals. Its now called Long Pig in those areas for that reason. Also know from my own experience in a kitchen accident our skin smells like bacon when fried.
>>43850909
Humans were gifted with true death via a soul. Our bodies might die but our soul goes to the settinr equivalent of heaven. Elves essence never truly leaves the world and sort of sinks into the ground. Uruk-hai are just elves who were tortured and made to do terrible things before being killed and their essence sort of congealing underground if understand correctly.
>>43850910
disgusting
>>43850507
>It's been thousands of years
>The firstborn elves are all still lolis and shotas, but mentally mature lolis and shotas.
>We don't know what a mature elf looks life, because none have hit sexual maturity.
>>43850658
>>43850694
This is the most compelling argument I've ever seen in favor of a short-lived species coupling with a long-lived one.
>>43850869
their contempt for us would be incomprehensible.
>>43850558
I think it's because humans naturally assume anything shorter lived than us would have too little time to do anything worthwhile
>>43851294
I kind of liked that in Lorwyn elves lived to 30 or so.
This is why I played around in my own setting to make the age ranges not so insane for every race. Everyone gets to live within a 50 to 200 year span at the minimum and max, except for dryads, who age like trees.
But everyone accepts dryads are fucking creepy and bizarre for being mostly plant anyways so it doesn't really become another Elf n' Humans deal. They spend shitloads of those years in various vegetative states anyways when not slowly wandering around.
>>43850507
>Any one wonder how the elves to first meet humans would react to the aging difference?
>"What's with these stupid rat-looking elves? They're all dumb, ugly, and die of old age in like five minutes"
>"They forget their promises within like 3-10 years of making them. And that's assuming that the deal-maker hasn't been replaced or kiled in that time"
>"I leave them alone for a fucking decade after making a treaty, and they've already reneged on it, hacked down half the forest, and shat in the sacred river"
>"We literally can't have peaceful relations with these things"
>"They breed too quickly. We need to clear them out like every two decades or else they'll overbreed and start shitting up the environment"
So pretty much how humans would view ratfolk.
>>43851306
but trees age very differently
>>43850910
Make the catch that there's some deific prophecy-destroying blade of change or something crazy that can only be wielded by a true mortal.It's not a human. Pick a race even more miserable, short-lived, and kicked around by elves and everyone else. Ratfolk be my first pick, but goblins always good. That'll teach the knife-eared fuckers AND the humies, too, when that sneaks up and annihilates all their stupid shitty three billion year old fates and orders.
>>43851327
Yes? That's what I'm saying. They age slowly and differently from everyone else. Dryads, or mine anyways, are a little mammalian but mostly plant.
I just figure if there's some massively long lived race, it's not going to be yet another 'rustic pointy-ear magic humans' it's going to be something familiar, but alien, and it's going to be like a turtle in that a lot of that time is spent sedentary or slow.
>>43851335
I think he meant that different types of trees age differently. Some trees actually have shorter lifespans than humans do, particularly fruit trees.
>>43851338
Well yeah, but even if I do have dryads manifest as all kinds of trees and flowers and fruits and so on, I'm not going to get that fucking anal about the details and categorize 800,000,000 different lifespan types for magic tree women nobody gives a shit about. He wants to do the paperwork, fine by me.
>>43851347
Why even bother at all, if you just want fetish fuel anyways
>>43851352
...because they're not fetish fuel? If a silly wood carving I posted upsets you man, I dunno what to say. Is this image safe enough for you?
>>43851347
fucking casuals
>>43851366
Why is it we never see elf skeletons, huh? Maybe they don't got none. Bet they'd do that, the slimfast fucks.
>>43851347
That rolled a nat 20 on me. Damn my dendrophilia.
>>43851376
How would you tell if it's an elf skeleton? You can't see the ears or the arrogance
>>43851385
That's what I'm saying. I don't think they do have skeletons. Bastards probably snuck them out somehow or never had any to begin with. Why do you think elves are never associated with dogs? Ain't got no bones. How can we trust a race that lives THAT long with no skeleton? What impact do they have on the skeleton war because of this?
>>43851413
Well, they're either our only hope or were cooperating with the skellingtons from the beginning
>>43851426
Wait a second. What if they're wood?
...
My God.
DRYADS ARE ELF SKELETONS
How would anyone manage to live for 200+ years without experiencing so much tragedy that they commit suicide? Even with great youth or muted emotions, just try to imagine how much grief there would have to be.
>>43851464
Not everyone's life sucks senpai, just yours.
>>43851464
I COULD make an argument here, but doing so would involve mixing real life logic with fantasy.
>>43851464
>How would anyone manage to live for 50+ years without experiencing so much tragedy that they commit suicide?
>>43851485
god I wish more people fucking thought like you
not every thought experiment needs a test in the lab
>>43850507
Has there been a setting where the elves are categorized as "civil" and "feral" whereas the latter is a bunch of ancient elves so old they went insane and became tree dwelling cannibals?
>>43851496
Probably not, because age causing other horrifying problems for an elf might actually make them interesting.
>>43850694
>>43851260
Theres a now-ended webcomic called "Errant Story" that makes this a main plot point in its worldbuilding.
>be an elf
>be a cock loving slut thats only good for breeding
case closed.
>>43851496
>has there been a setting where elves are ghouls from fallout
>>43851464
That's called forgetfulness, and "Time heal all the wounds".
>>43851555
Man, I haven't thought about that comic in years. Did they ever pick up the pace of the plot?
>>43851821
Yes. And then it finished.
>>43850507
>humans
>cool
Pfft
>>43851464
By having a different psychology than humans and by getting a pretty interesting life story and character out of this.
Not every 500 years old elf needs to be a snobby, stuck-up bitch. Do you hear me, fantasy-writers?
>>43850507
Probably the same like we react to goldfish or doggies. Elfish rite of passage would be raising a human from a little child to their adulthood and then to death, so they could learn about mortality. But stupid humans interpret it as abductions and make weird stories about elfs.
>>43851464
through hate
because you've actually had a chat with god
because you have something to do
pick any or multiple
>>43851464
Tribal humans(think even American Indians) managed it for over 60 years, that's thousands of days of repetition, how would 200 be any different?
>>43851464
I could go on forever, I'd never do an hero. Life is beautiful.
>>43850507
>be Elf
In Stone Age we lived only 20-30 years.
>>43852144
What a happy little world you live in. But i agree, sometimes i find the most tragic things in life amusing, mostly by asking why and how.
>>43850558
No, you got it all wrong.
>"What fortunate beings, these Men! To experience life with such alacrity, all it's wonders, joys, sorrows and misfortunes, to love, hate and experience all things with such passion, before they move on, leaving their legacy behind for their progeny to enjoy and expand on. They will have peace in the lands beyond that our kin can never truly understand. Truly, our agelessness is a burden, such a heavy, heavy burden. If only Elves were able to dream as Men do."
>>43852329
Don't confuse averages with maximum lifespan.
>>43850909
Aren't Elves in lotr so closely tied to the inherent magic of the world that as magic waned they did too?
>>43850981
Funnily enough, Long Pig is also a common term for white people in some such areas
That one thread in SpaceBattles about advance "soulless" humans meeting space elves was epic.
>>43851129
underrated post. If only for the first and last lines.
>>43852368
Yes and no.
'Magic' isn't really a force in LOTR in the way it is in DnD settings. There are the beings like the Balrog and Gandalf and Sauron, which are basically angels, and then there are the Elves who learned coo shit from the angel-tier beings.
An Elvish blade isnt unbreakable, ever sharp, and glows when orcs are near because it is infused with magic. It does all that shit because it is a really, REALLY well crafted blade. Like, next level blacksmithing that humans ever get to learn because we simply don't live long enough to master it.
The Elves are not leaving because magic is waning. The Elves are leaving because they are going back to hang out with the gods again because their parole is over. There is less magic int he world as they leave because they are taking their best shit with them, and there are fewer and fewer elves left to make anything else worth calling magic.
Who else is going to magic magic-tier items? The Dwarves? In LOTR, dwarven craftsmanship has always been inferior to elven work, and the Dwarves keep getting themselves killed off in massive numbers underground fighting goblins and shit while being isolationist shits, so they are slowly killing themselves off because of 'muh mines'.
>>43852358
The Gift of Men is very setting specific, though.
Tolkien's elves are indelibly tied to the world. When they "die" they just go across the sea to chill in the Halls of Mandos in Valinor.
Men though, get to leave this world and go somewhere else. Nobody knows the exact details, just that it's Ilúvatar's special gift to Men (and we can infer from Tolkien's Christian faith that it's basically going to heaven). Along with this, Men are special in that they are not bound by Fate. Men have a true freedom to effect and change the world that the other races have not.
>>43850507
>>43853437
damnit, not again
>>43853437Source?Reverse image search is just giving me pages and pages of moonrunes.
>>43853463
try improving your google-fu, senpai
>>43853437
No! Show me a man who wouldn't trade his girlfriend for a cute foxy girl. Your story is bad and you should feel bad.
>>43853461
>>43853463
Don't worry, she deserved it.
>>43853732
Yandere isn't actual love. I'll take a real relationship over a possessive fox loli who doesn't even know me.
>>43853463
Google yandere fox girl. It should wield results
>>43850845
And that is exactly what older elves tell their young when they ask why the human kids seemed to vanish.
>>43850694
It's gonna suck for the elf that goes in expecting a fling and ends up falling in love.
>>43854251
I didn't ask for those feels
>>43852329
A large part of short lifespans is infant mortality, if you only include people who live to puberty the average has always been around 40-80. Once you have basic healthcare in the form of treating broken legs and letting people rest while others care for them while they are sick you boost the lifespan to just under modern levels, with penicillin and basic hygiene during medical treatments you pretty much reach modern levels.
Put simply once you can survive a broken leg or fever you are pretty much going to live to 50 or 60 on average, once your doctor learns to wash his hands before treatment, sanitize wounds, and you have antibiotics you will probably reach about 70 or 80. After that the main hurdles are health issues due to poor diet and cancer, the former is solved relatively easily enough and the latter can be mostly prevented for several types of cancer if you don't have bad habits like smoking. The main reason people die before the average lifespan today is because they eat shit, they smoke shit, or they die in an auto wreck.
>>43854332
It's gotta suck for the elf that goes in expecting a fling and the human makes magicks themself immortal.
I mean awkward breakup or what?
>>43854408
>yfw you think your human is dead but he comes back as Lich
>>43854408
>tfw the BBEG of the setting is your creepy stalker ex
>tfw they started lusting for power to get your attention after you dumped them
>tfw they're doing it all for you
>>43854469
>he keeps up with his gentle repose and is still great in bed
>>43850507
Assuming elves are actually born (rather than just all created at the dawn of time or something), they wouldn't just lack any concept of shorter periods of time like /tg/ tends to pretend.
Our interpretation of time is largely based on our current lifespan thus far.
That is, one year when you are one year old is as long as your entire life, so it seems to take forever. Same when you're ten. It's one-tenth of your entire life, so a year seems to take forever.
Then when you're, say, forty, it's only 1/40th your life thus far, so a year isn't really so big of a deal anymore.
A ten year old elf and a ten year old human are going to view a year pretty much the same. It isn't really until a particular elf is beyond a human lifespan that their perception of time is going to be significantly different than ours.
Also this whole "not sexually or physically mature until 200+ years old" or whatever thing is bunk. They would go extinct. It's too easy to die in that huge length of time before they can breed. We have biologically immortal creatures on Earth, too.
Hydras (biologically immortal jellyfish) reach maturity in 5 to 10 days, for example.
>>43854573
>necrophilia
>>43854587
>Hydras (biologically immortal jellyfish) reach maturity in 5 to 10 days, for example.
Hail Hydra!
>>43854606
>not wanting to take a trip to theBONE ZONE
>>43853757
Yandere is purest love.
>>43854251
Why can't you people give straight answers instead of expecting us to get put on a watchlist by outright googling this shit?
>>43854821
Yandere is literally a lack of love
>>43854909
Yandere is literally being so in love with someone you can't bare to be away from them or have them be with anyone else.
>>43854909
No, it's overwhelming love.
Oh god, don't derail another thread with this inane argument again.
>>43854909
>>43854834
>not already being on at least one watchlist
>>43854962
You aren't meant to collect watchlistings like stamps.
>>43854821
>I love someone so much I am willing to sacrifice their happiness for my happiness.
Just saying there is a reason yandere characters are generally considered bad people, sacrificing yourself for others is a noble thing to do, sacrificing others for yourself is an asshole move.
>>43854408
>>43854469
>>43854489
>you thought you could keep my stuff just because I died?
>think again bitch
>>43854975
If you aren't on any watchlists you are either boring or never use the internet. Come on have you never made a zip gun just to make it? What about looking up how to make a pipe bomb or some sort of gore video like ISIS executions?
>>43854975
Look at this casual.
>>43854975
>>43854999
Love is innately selfish, anon. That said, yanderes typically go to extreme lengths to keep their loved one happy, they just have a warped idea of happiness to a certain degree. Husband is happy because you made him is favorite meal, he shouldn't be all that concerned that his sister is dead.
>>43855015
>you thought you could keep my stuff just because I died?
TBF that's what I would do if I was an elf girl.
>Be attractive elf girl
>Meet a nice human guy, be friendly with him, eventually get married
>Always take birth control so I won't have to deal with mongrel children, pretend to be depressed over our inability to have children
>When he dies get all his stuff in the will
>Move over a few towns and repeat with another guy
>Like being a black widow except nobody can do anything if I am found out.
>>43855034
>Love is innately selfish, anon.
That's a pretty cynical way to view the world, what about love makes it innately selfish?
>>43855063
You do things for them because it makes you happy and you want to be with them. The idea of selfishness is that you're doing things for your benefit. Those are benefits. The only reason this seems like a problem to you is that you think selfishness is innately a bad thing, which is not the case.
>>43855047
Until you get that one vindictive asshole that won't have you keeping his worldly riches and magics himself back to life
>>43854469
>>43855082
>Skeletal-on-elf revenge rape
That gives mea boner
>>43855351
>>43854915
>>43854941
>>43854954
It's being in love with an idealistic template of a person that you've forced onto your latest victim.
Foxgirl doesn't even know that guy's name, for example.
>>43855047
>despairing over the lack of a child he has an affair with another woman
>you only learn of it after his death when he leaves everything to their child
>yfw the mother is some bitch from the village you grew up in who has always been stealing your boyfriends
>>43855397
This anon hasn't read about any good yanderes.
>>43855397
>Foxgirl doesn't even know that guy's name, for example.
"That guy" is the only thing the man she loved more than anything left behind. Considering the creepy age gap humans would experience in a comparable situation isn't an issue, what's the problem?
>>43855443that's because japshit is shit yo
>>43855414
>20 years later
>start seducing the boy
>>43855456
>Complaining about Japan on a Japanese-style image board founded to discuss Japanese Anime now owned by a Japanese man.
>>43855456
At least manga isn't trying to compensate for its decline by appealing to SJW, unlike American comics. Though that may be based more on their production model than their inherent value.
>>43855456
not again
>>43855026
I just want the name. Is that so wrong?
>>43855483
Nigga, appealing to SJW is nothing compared to the moeshit and haremshit that is epidemic to Jap media.
>>43855508
Not really. The people that like moe and harem anime won't ruin your life for not sharing their political views.
>>43855508
>Nigga, appealing to SJW is nothing compared to the moeshit and haremshit
Correct. The equivalent of Japan´s moeshit and haremshit is American capeshit. The problem is that there is a plethora of alternative options (hell, top 3 anime/manga lists rarely have even one moeshit or haremshit anime in them) whereas 99.9% of American comics is capeshit.
Appealing to SJW is just the diarrhea frosting on the shitcake.
>>43855519
they're still masive faggots though.
>>43855463
>his mother has warned him of the tricks other elvish women use against men
>she specifically mentioned you several times and he knows you as "that slut"
>>43855534
Who cares? I don't care at all what people believe or do as long as they do it in peace and leave other people alone.
>>43855537
>She approaches him in a dark alley late at night, when he's completely defenseless
>Wearing a sleek, black dress with deep cleavage and a high cut that leaves very little to the imagination
>Strokes his chin and neck with her slender fingers
>She introduces herself as "the kind of woman your mother warned you about"
>>43851464
http://www.helpguide.org/articles/grief-loss/coping-with-grief-and-loss.htm
http://www.psychguides.com/guides/how-to-find-help-treating-a-grief-management-problem/
http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/
If you honestly don't know how to handle grief over time, take a look at these websites. I'm not even trolling here, you need help.
>>43855508
>appealing to SJW is nothing compared to the moeshit and haremshit that is epidemic to Jap media.
nice try chaim
>>43855533
>whereas 99.9% of American comics is capeshit.
to be fair no one gives a shit about psychical comics
everyone just reads web comics that involve video game references
>>43850694
>>43850658
>>43851260
Tfw not a lucky elf lothario enjoying fling after fling with attractive mayfly human ladies who think you're wise and sage and lovely even when all the other elves call you a moronic looser.
>>43855443
That's because "good yandere" is an oxymoron
>>43855446
Which is sorta my point. She murdered his grandfather's sisters and then decided he was a close enough replacement for her "affection" and proceeded to try and murder his loved ones too.
>>43851464
Burning Wheel actually has the racial magic stat for Elves be 'grief'. You can use it to do some things better, but if the stat maxes out, you're unplayable. They have songs and other things to try and help manage it, but maxing is kind of inevitable over a long enough scale.
>>43855583
Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad, anon.
>>43855574
l li
ll l_
>>43855508
dude I have seen a topic about a historical medieval video game go to hell because someone was bitching "why isnt there a female player option"
>>43855559
>he politely tells her he has no time for a lady of the night as adventure is calling him to undertake a grand quest
>>43854821
>4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
>It does not envy
>It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs
>>43855603
She's an elf. Time is on her side.
>Transforms herself into a dragon
>Flies a few circles around town
>Sets a few bushes on fire and causes some other minor damage
>Obviously flies off to a cave within walking distance of the village
>Waits until her beloved comes to slay the dragon
>Runs out of the cave naked, showing off her ageless body
>Jumps into his arms and kisses him to thank him for saving her
>When the dragon is nowhere to be found, she makes something up about him choking on a magical peanut
What kind of hero could refuse getting the girl in the end?
>>43855616
What stupid little poem did you get that from and in what world is romantic poetry realistic?
>>43855616
>quoting from the book where God shows his love by genociding every single nation in the way of his Chosen People
Dude, Jehovah is one of the first yanderes in literature.
Not helping your case.
>>43855627
Since when can elves just turn themselves into dragons? Your character is turning into a weird Mary Sue.
>>43855616
>Quoting from Corinthians
>An epistle written by a Hellenized Jew to Greek Christians
>In ancient Greek
>Unironically quoting this without understanding that Greek has three words for love
The one you're looking for here is "Agape", the kind only God feels for man.
>>43855632
That's the Bible, anon.
Not even one of the books of poetry, either. It's New Testament.
>>43850658
>>43850694
>>43851260
Oh hey, somebody else had this idea. That's basically how I've always seen elf-human relationships. A marriage that lasts a human's lifespan is like a passionate three-year love affair for an elf, after which they're free to go back to being single for a while until they decide they want that experience again and go find another human. For the human, they get a spouse that stays young, beautiful, and more importantly stays in the "honeymoon phase" for the entire marriage.
There's a reason there are so damn many half-elves running around.
>>43855574
>psychical comics
>>43855651
Are you gonna sit here and claim the bible is a realistic narrative next?
>>43850909
Elves in Lotr are basically pointy eared Mary Sue humans who when they die turn into fey spirits who fuse with the world until they are reborn through magic.
Only problem is that magic is disappearing so they are dying out.
>>43855627
He's a naive half-elf on the path to murderhoboing. If she's lucky she'll get a one night stand before he leaves town again, but that's the most that can happen for her.
>>43855519
>he's never been bullied by a gang of moe lolis
Get in the van, onii-chan
>>43855672
No, no I'm not.
But as one of the most famous quotes from the foundation book of Western Society, you really should have known the source.
Even if the quote is BS.
>>43855692
Is there rock?
>>43855692
>van
>lolis
I think it wouldn't be them doing the bullying here
>>43855698
>Foundation book for western society
Western society isn't based on the bible. It's based on Roman law and Greek philosophy filtered through a bunch of Germanics.
Is it wrong that I wish I were an elf, used and abused by the savage humans?
>>43855015
>>43855047
I'm reminded of another greentext involving an elf girl going from husband to husband like that only difference was she always made sure he'd leave enough behind to buy a large diamondso she could use trap the soul on him and then add his soul to the string of diamond anal beads she keeps in her whenever she's unmarried
>>43855761
why am I not surprised
>>43855643
>Since when can elves just turn themselves into dragons?
Ever since the race has been famous for being adapt at magic?
>>43855684
She would drag her cunt through a mile of broken glass just to hear him fart through a walkie-talkie. A one night stand is more than satsifactory.
>>43850507
>>43855594
It's not an opinion, it's the definition of the archetype
>>43855627
If she has the ability to True Polymorhp her self into a dragon then she wouldn't be doing this stupid scheme in the first place.
>>43855841
>My bad taste in girls is the definition of an archetype.
Sorry anon, nobody gave you that kind of authority.
>>43851446
good god i love that gift.
>>43855664
It's literally how asari in Mass Effect view human relationships
>>43851446
Did he stuff ginger in the poor doggie's butt?
>>43855857
Fly, Illusion and Ghost Sound are low level spells though. Combine that with alchemical fire.
>>43855703
Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, you name it. Just get in the van.
>>43851464
Why would living for 200+ years be more grief tastic than living for 70+ years?
>>43855664
>Be at the end of your life
>Find a spell to make yourself young and immortal again
>So you can spend eternity with your Elf Wife
>Cast it and surprise your wife
>She tells you that's she's not really looking for a long term thing and breaks up with you
>>43855929
Is there Ska?
>>43855947
>Say screw it and screw all the women in her home village
>Marry her mother
>Make it as awkward as possible
>?????
>Profit!
>>43855947
>cast the spell on the entire human race out of revenge
>>43851885]
I think they're mostly snobby for the same reason you probably don't like to be talked down to by people 10 years younger than you, only its people 480 years younger than you.
To put it another way, a nice elf would probably have to have a VERY chill personality and be a master of the fine art of not giving unasked for advice.
>>43855860
>confronted with a textbook definition
>"NUH-UH MAN, THAT'S JUST YOUR OPINION, MAN. YOUR OPINION WHICH IS WRONG BECAUSE YOU HAVE SHIT TASTE!"
Real classy move, anon. I bet back in high school all the girls swooned whenever you pulled a stunt like that in debate club.
>>43855995
There comes a point where trolling veers so far away from anything resembling reality that it stops being offensive and rage-inducing and just becomes absurd and sad.
You've hit that point.
>>43855995
>Textbook
Find me the textbook on dere archetypes where it says 'Yandere suck!' as the definition, anon. You're strawmanning like you laid down some insurmountable proof of your position when all you've been telling me is how much you don't like them this whole time. You're going to have to try harder if you're going to start arguing that your opinion is an accepted fact and not just your opinion.
>>43855755
>cuteelftsundere
tried google yet found no source.
>>43855860
>likes yandere
>claims others have bad taste
Pfft
>>43855959
More than you could possibly skank to, now get in the fucking van
>>43855627
A gay one
>>43854587
New headcanon for setting: Elves live about 1.5 times as long as humans, but it is primarily due to advances in medical technology and the fact that they know just about every damn medicinal plant in the forest. Medical expertise is one of their main trading resources with humans, but there is difficult adapting it to human biology.
>>43850507
They would find humans incredibly hilarious from their pitiful ambition.
>>43856080
Is that pic what you see when you die and go to hell?
>>43854587
The sexual maturity at 25815616 thing comes from people getting confused about D&D elves starting adventurer age, as 2/3 sources on D&D elves have them reach maturity at about the same point humans do.
The other source is the Complete Book of Elves, the one that has them be lolis for decades.
Has anyone here actually thought about how slow of a reproduction rate they'd need to have most elves be centuries old? Since when I did the math, if they reproduced remotely frequently, you'd have most elves just be a decade or so older than humans, ish.
>>43856020
>not recognizing when another anon stepped in
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Citations:yandere#English
Take your pick. If there isn't something about "turns violent over the slightest provocation" that tells you to get the fuck away from this crazy bitch, then there's something wrong with you.
>>43855078
Benefiting yourself is not and has never been selfishness, its caring only for oneself. Love can be selfish but rarely is. Hell, most hentai nowadays tends to feature the girl enjoying it too.
>>43856149
It doesn't make a lot of sense for elves to only start adventuring at 100 if they've been adults for 80 years.
And the entire reason why elves reproduce rarely/mature much later is mainly to keep them from zerg rushing over shorter lived races liked humans and dominating the globe.
>>43855047
This is actually one of the more terrifying elements of elves.
>>43850507
"45 years old? Go home humie, you're not old enough for our party. We gonna bang some sweet knife-ear wenches, barely 90."
>>43855643
>>43855816
If she's a strong as fuck wizard, she really has better ways to get dosh than dicking around with inheritances.
>>43856171
>He's using wikipedia to define wide, nuanced archetypes in Japanese media.
Beyond that, you're now trying to tell me that 'they turn violent' is the same as the 'dictionary definition' you posted that was really just you saying you don't like them and justifying that by saying 'there's something wrong with you if you disagree'. Which is just hilarious. That's obviously ignoring the first point that wikipedia is trash at understanding fictional archetypes from other cultures.
>>43856174
>It doesn't make a lot of sense for elves to only start adventuring at 100 if they've been adults for 80 years.
Er, why doesn't it? Presumably, if people had the choice, they'd only sprint to destruction once they've lived a full life.
>>43856234
The behavior that usually makes humans seek out this sort of thing is the curiosity and rebelliousness of youth. Most adventures are young adults wanting to prove themselves, face excitement and danger, see the world, and gather riches. Not fifty year old widowers with nothing to lose.
>>43856209
you underestimate the appeal of zany schemes
>>43856048
I dunno, this seems like a bad idea...
>>43855397
>>43856212
You do realize it wasn't meant to be a positive archetype, right? Yandere "romance" is SUPPOSED to end in murder/suicide.
>>43856209
Elves live yo dick with people.
Plus she's slowly depleting the surplus human population.
>>43856299
If the attraction is mutual, what's wrong with yanderes? If you love her and she loves you, the only way for this to backfire is by being a cheating scumbag.
>>43856314
Are you conflating two or three definitions of good? Because as far as I can tell, you can't determine the differences between:
>1. I like this.
>2. This is morally positive.
>3. This has long term benefits for my life and health.
I know English likes to use one word for multiple concepts sometimes,
>>43856345
Depends. What yandere haters don't often realize is that it's an archetype, with many sub-types and room for individual behavior. Some are the 'harvest your guts to be with you forever' kind, some are the 'murder everyone and keep you in the basement' kind, some are the 'be clingy and spy on you constantly' kind (here's where they start being viable partners for some), and others are the 'only freakout when you act like an asshole' kind (which are only a problem for assholes). It's obviously more complicated than this, but the later two types are safe bets usually.
>>43856381
Bah, I know English likes to use one word for multiple concepts sometimes, but context really should've clued you in to how it's being used here.
>>43856345
Any miscommunication or perceived error can also lead to problems. You don't have to be loyal, you don't have to be a saint, you have to be perfect.
>>43856407
Not really. I've read plenty of yandere stuff where the girl loved the guy for his flaws, as long as that flaw wasn't betraying or cheating on her.
Like I pointed out above, you think yandere is a description of her whole personality or that there's only one kind, and that's not the case.
>>43856345
You clearly don't know what a yandere is. They'll kill your own sisters for monopolizing too much of your time and being a woman.
A girl looked at you too long while passing you on the street? Dead.
Your grandmother calls and asks for some help around the house? Dead.
Girl scouts try to sell you cookies? Dead.
And if she gets too paranoid, she might just behead you and wat your heart so you'll be together forever
>>43856407
If you really cared about her you would think that she doesn't deserve anything less than perfect.
>>43856423
See >>43856420
>>43856381
Anon, you keep acting like an authority but you're speaking from your ass.
>>43856420
Then she isn't actually yandere, just clingy
>>43856432
Yandere is not bound to your singular understanding of one application of the archetype, anon. Just because many examples don't fit how you understand it doesn't make them not yanderes, it makes you understanding incomplete and/or wrong.
>yfw yandere hater read a doujin where the girl killed the guy in the end and now he thinks all yandere is like that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybristophilia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_fantasy
It is my belief, as a fan of yandere, that it is associated with the same root causes as the two previous fetishes.
That is, the lack of control/consent/moral culpability.
Resisting a yandere is life threatening, and so anything you do at her desire is not your fault. Thus, people with certain upbringings (typically overly conservative/prudish) can use the idea of a yandere to get off without the typical associated feelings of guilt as they "had no choice."
Of course, that's just one possible rationale of many.
>>43856251
That seems like a very mortal way to look at it. What does something like the impetuousness of youth really mean to something that's eternally young? How many undertakings have begun with the though "well, I'm not getting any younger?"
It's different for them. They have time. Start adventuring at 20 or 200, it makes no real difference. They're never getting any older, but they may well die if they do this. So why not put it off for a while, set your affairs in order, spend time with the family. Study. Prepare yourself. Enjoy what you have now. You have eternity, so what's the rush?
>>43856460
>tfw yabderefags are as irrational as yanderes themselves and have to male up false realities where they're not wrong
>>43853437
I always thought the author's idea for a second comic was more interesting - the spirit of a shrine erected by Japanese soldiers in India during WWII is altered by the local spirituality and environment. For some reason that just seems really interesting. I wonder what shrine spirits from around the world would look like.
>>43856510
I could argue against this spiel, but really it's easy enough to deflate it by pointing out that, in many settings (including DnD which we were discussing), elves aren't actually immortal.
>>43855488
The name is "Yandere Fox Girl."
>>43856497
I think it has more to do with emotionally needy people requiring a woman who will nor only make every last advance, but will remain slavishly devoted to him without any effort on the male's part.
It's laziness is what it is.
>>43856533
There's aquestsetting that deals with that sort of thing.
>>43856497
I just like clingy/obsessed/head-over-heels in love girls.
My rape fetish is completely separate.
>>43856548
Nah, I also like cute submissive women and big, strong, dominating warrior women.
I think you people who only like one thing (And who try to paint everyone with a fetish as only having that fetish and thus as a one-dimensional stereotype you can attack) as missing out. Variety is the spice of life.
>>43856566
Well, spit it out.
>>43856447
By watering down the definition of yandere to "slightly obsessive girl", you eradicate any meaning it might have. It may as well be the new epic or buzzword.
>tfw this whole thread went south over 2 or 3 faggots arguing over faggy chinese girl toons
>>43853463
>>43854251
>>43854834
>>43856539
Who's on first?
>>43856588
Or you just don't understand it like you think you do and can't handle being wrong or that other people like things you don't.
>>43856592
Nobody in Particular
>>43856571
>I also like women who are slavishly devoted to me and women who make all the advances
Gee, you really proved me wrong.
>>43856636
>prove
>opinion
>>43856636
Okay anon, what kind of women should I like? What archetype is anon approved?
Women can't be stronger than me, they can't be weaker than me, they can't do things themselves, they can't want me to do things, so. I guess I'm only supposed to like women in perfect equilibrium with myself? Because no relationship is going to be entirely balanced, else the two will constantly bicker over what's 'fair' and who's been doing enough work. Give and take always ends up with a little more on one side.
>be elf
>make thread about elves
>stupid humans won't talk about elves
>>43856636
>Likes submissive women
>Lazy because she'll love him without question
>Likes dominant women
>Lazy because she'll do all the work
So what's an example of a relationship or fetish that wouldn't be lazy on his part, since the entire spectrum seems to be?
>>43856251
>fifty year old widowers
Well, I'm not talking about fifty year old widowers, I'm talking about 120ish year old elves who are still young adults.
>>43856684
Some guy got butthurt about yandere and now everyone is arguing with him. Probably a dedicated troll.
>>43856684
You obviously didn't show enough skin to capture the fleeting interest of these simple minded men.
drop it you aspies, neither of you are going to agree on anything.
>>43856728
They were young adults 80 years ago. Again, there's little reason they'd all wait until they're 100. If anything, being a young adult longer would just lead to a wider dispersal of first-time adventuring ages.
>>43856680
You can like whatever you want, I'm not trying to stop you. I just think it's funny that you try to claim my supposition was wrong by further confirming it
>>43856673
It's more of a hypothesis from an armchair psychologist, but that's subjective enough it's no better than an opinion.
>>43856731
this
show skin
>>43856731
>>43856729
>if someone disagrees with me they're a dedicated troll because all my opinions are facts
>>43856711
>Be a man
>Literally everything you do, say, think or desire is horrible
Welcome to the Occident anno 2015
>>43856741
Your supposition is wrong-headed in that you think these fetishes innately mean the person with them is needy and lazy. Which is pretty wrongheaded when they cover the entire gambit. So everyone is needy and lazy?
>>43850558
>Assuming their as naive
their what, anon?
>>43856711
One's emotionally lazy while the other is physically lazy. Yandere is a fusion of both types of laziness
>>43856780
So what fetishes do you approve of as not lazy?
>>43856780
and tsunderes are the kindest deres around...fag.
>>43856780
So what you're saying is that to have a healthy relationship, the Man has to be a Yandere for the Woman instead?
>>43856766
If someone thinks "is so obsessed with their version of you they will kill all competition and keep you isolated and all to themselves" is a positive, healthy relationship then they probably are pretty needy emotionally
